WEBVTT - "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess" 0:00:08.234 --> 0:00:17.753 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Hello and welcome to 0:00:17.794 --> 0:00:18.954 Mom and Mia out loud. 0:00:18.994 --> 0:00:21.914 What women are actually talking about on Friday, the thirteenth 0:00:21.954 --> 0:00:22.594 of February. 0:00:22.754 --> 0:00:25.434 I'm hollywayn Right. What sorry, it's bad luck? 0:00:25.514 --> 0:00:28.994 Oh shit thirty Yeah, that's bad luck. 0:00:29.154 --> 0:00:33.873 Friday thirteen, Okay, Friday, the twelve ay Ofbruary. 0:00:34.434 --> 0:00:38.314 All the fourteen like is kind of Valentine's Day, but 0:00:38.394 --> 0:00:40.394 a day before Friday. 0:00:40.793 --> 0:00:44.953 Valentine's Eve, Yes, February. We love that. And I am 0:00:44.994 --> 0:00:45.873 Hollywayne right. 0:00:45.793 --> 0:00:47.954 I'm Claire Stephens and I'm Jesse Stevens. 0:00:48.273 --> 0:00:51.513 And here's what's on our agenda for our Friday show. 0:00:52.074 --> 0:00:55.234 This is the week that the robots finally really freaked 0:00:55.234 --> 0:00:56.874 me out, and we need to debrief. 0:00:57.154 --> 0:01:01.353 Plus the petty hills we will always always die on 0:01:01.834 --> 0:01:06.154 And are you a finger princess, because apparently there's one 0:01:06.194 --> 0:01:06.874 in every friendship? 0:01:07.394 --> 0:01:08.354 Have anything to do with that? 0:01:08.874 --> 0:01:12.634 I think? I don't know, Holly, that's in your dreams. 0:01:12.714 --> 0:01:16.354 Let's move on from here, but first, in case you 0:01:16.434 --> 0:01:19.154 missed it, we are about to enter the year of 0:01:19.354 --> 0:01:22.034 the Horse, the fire Horse, the Year of the fire Horse, 0:01:22.794 --> 0:01:24.834 and there are some things everyone should know. 0:01:24.954 --> 0:01:26.354 This is in the lunar calendar. 0:01:26.434 --> 0:01:28.554 Right, this is Chinese stroll. 0:01:28.994 --> 0:01:31.354 It's the lunar calendar. I think the new year starts 0:01:31.434 --> 0:01:32.474 on the seventeenth. 0:01:32.514 --> 0:01:37.114 On the secondeenth, which is next Tuesday, my wedding anniversary. Really, 0:01:37.274 --> 0:01:41.794 stay well, Claire, I think it's our year. I did 0:01:41.794 --> 0:01:43.954 some reading. I think it's our year. Feel like so 0:01:44.074 --> 0:01:45.834 much holly over here is year of the pig. 0:01:47.034 --> 0:01:48.834 Let's not say that with so much glee. 0:01:49.074 --> 0:01:49.874 I like it. 0:01:50.034 --> 0:01:53.114 I am a pig. Yes, we'll leave it. 0:01:53.314 --> 0:01:56.194 You've had your years, Claire. We're the year of the 0:01:56.194 --> 0:01:58.274 horse because we were born in nineteen ninety. Yeah, so 0:01:58.354 --> 0:02:01.514 this has come round. We are, along with anyone born 0:02:01.594 --> 0:02:04.434 nineteen fifty four, nineteen sixty six, nineteen seventy eight, two 0:02:04.474 --> 0:02:07.754 thousand and two, twenty fourteen. Beyond that, I don't believe 0:02:07.794 --> 0:02:11.714 you exist. And after reading about the Chinese zodiac for 0:02:11.754 --> 0:02:14.834 eleven minutes this morning, I get the strong sense that 0:02:14.913 --> 0:02:17.674 good things are coming for us. The fire horse is 0:02:17.714 --> 0:02:21.474 one of the most powerful combinations on the Chinese zodiac. 0:02:22.474 --> 0:02:28.074 Susan Goo, a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner and acupuncturist who 0:02:28.154 --> 0:02:30.154 probably knows a little bit more about this than a 0:02:30.154 --> 0:02:33.874 White Girl on TikTok or Me says that in Eastern culture, 0:02:33.994 --> 0:02:39.154 the horse represents action, freedom, speed. You're known for your speed, 0:02:39.234 --> 0:02:43.194 but fast on your feet, not and breakthrough. It reflects 0:02:43.194 --> 0:02:46.114 a stage of life that moves boldly forward without the 0:02:46.114 --> 0:02:49.674 fear of obstacles, placing emphasis on being in motion rather 0:02:49.714 --> 0:02:53.234 than standing still. So this year, anything that we want 0:02:53.274 --> 0:02:56.154 to do. Let's say, we want to start running, we 0:02:56.194 --> 0:03:00.954 want to start gardening, we want to become really into weightlifting. 0:03:02.034 --> 0:03:04.354 No planning. This is not the year for planning, ladies. 0:03:04.514 --> 0:03:06.754 This is the year of just going for it. And 0:03:07.634 --> 0:03:10.434 I was feeling really positive right and I thought, I'm 0:03:10.474 --> 0:03:11.594 going to rabit in Holly's face. 0:03:12.194 --> 0:03:15.034 Then can I just quickly tell you what's going to 0:03:15.074 --> 0:03:15.913 happen to pigs this year? 0:03:15.994 --> 0:03:18.954 Oh? Yes, just because you know, I think you want 0:03:18.994 --> 0:03:19.554 to be represented. 0:03:19.554 --> 0:03:20.354 I want to be represented. 0:03:20.434 --> 0:03:22.834 And also it's not good news as opposed to you, 0:03:22.834 --> 0:03:23.554 who's got lots. 0:03:23.394 --> 0:03:23.994 Of good news. 0:03:24.314 --> 0:03:27.954 The Year of the fire Horse presents a challenging, high energy, 0:03:27.994 --> 0:03:32.154 and tumultuous period for pigs. Due to the rapid, unpredictable 0:03:32.234 --> 0:03:36.674 nature of this year, pigs may face increased stress, emotional sensitivity, 0:03:36.714 --> 0:03:39.554 and instability in work and relationships. 0:03:39.714 --> 0:03:40.954 That doesn't sound. 0:03:40.754 --> 0:03:45.234 Good, guys, like you've got to go back to bed. Well, 0:03:45.474 --> 0:03:49.594 Holly in solidarity. I then came across something that was 0:03:49.634 --> 0:03:52.994 not so good for us, right, because the horse does 0:03:53.074 --> 0:03:59.674 sound Horses are beautiful, horses are beautiful, energy healthy. Yeah, 0:03:59.874 --> 0:04:02.354 maybe that's why bio Sensory was sitting on one naked 0:04:02.394 --> 0:04:03.954 in that Vanity fair profile that we. 0:04:03.874 --> 0:04:06.914 Talked about it. It was a nod to. It was a nod. 0:04:07.474 --> 0:04:11.074 Yeah. So in nineteen sixty six, which was the last 0:04:11.154 --> 0:04:13.754 time we had a fire horse year, and you know 0:04:13.754 --> 0:04:16.514 how I said, historically it's a very important year, there 0:04:16.594 --> 0:04:20.594 was a statistical drop in birth rates in a bunch 0:04:20.634 --> 0:04:25.473 of Eastern countries. You know why, because there are superstitions 0:04:25.674 --> 0:04:28.953 around having babies in the year of Christ. Do not 0:04:29.193 --> 0:04:32.873 want babies in the year of the horse. Apparently they're wild, 0:04:33.073 --> 0:04:36.073 they're too difficult, and they bring bad luck to the 0:04:36.113 --> 0:04:39.753 whole family. Oh no, Claire, do you have any feelings 0:04:39.753 --> 0:04:42.154 about that? Yeah, I mean you're gonna have two of them, 0:04:42.234 --> 0:04:46.633 so hahah that's hilarious. And we already know that the 0:04:46.794 --> 0:04:49.633 girl is that Yeah, there's doing a lot of kicking. 0:04:49.834 --> 0:04:52.474 I'm getting a big horse energy from the girl. Yeah, 0:04:52.513 --> 0:04:57.354 she's wreaking havoc in there, but I am also having 0:04:57.393 --> 0:04:57.793 a horse. 0:04:57.873 --> 0:04:58.193 Baby. 0:04:58.354 --> 0:05:01.393 You're having a horse. I'm having a little horse in July. 0:05:01.953 --> 0:05:02.553 End of July. 0:05:02.914 --> 0:05:05.033 This is news for people who did not listen to 0:05:05.513 --> 0:05:08.993 yes Yesterday's subscriber Episo said with me where you two talked. 0:05:08.753 --> 0:05:11.034 About your weird twinness pregnancies. 0:05:11.433 --> 0:05:16.033 Exactly when I said weird, sorry to every twin in 0:05:16.073 --> 0:05:20.794 the world, I meant you're interesting, intriguing and curiosity inducing 0:05:20.993 --> 0:05:21.914 twin pregnancy. 0:05:22.154 --> 0:05:25.154 Sorry, girls, how do you feel about having that baby 0:05:25.154 --> 0:05:27.833 in the Year of the Horse? You've been anxious? Well, no, 0:05:28.034 --> 0:05:30.433 I mean I think to have a horse. I'm like, 0:05:30.553 --> 0:05:31.633 I already had a horse. 0:05:32.034 --> 0:05:33.234 She came kicking. 0:05:33.594 --> 0:05:36.154 She did come say that. Matilda came out of the 0:05:36.154 --> 0:05:39.873 womb going ah, she got lost and there were lots 0:05:39.873 --> 0:05:42.474 of issues. So there's going to be some wildness. Yeah, 0:05:42.834 --> 0:05:45.433 a lot of city still. Yeah, but I have to 0:05:45.513 --> 0:05:50.753 say this whole thing about it being our year. No, no, no, no, no, 0:05:51.274 --> 0:05:56.873 high energy. I have done nothing. I'm doing a lot 0:05:56.914 --> 0:05:59.034 of standing still, a lot of life. 0:05:59.113 --> 0:06:02.553 You're building a baby. We need to reframe that as 0:06:02.674 --> 0:06:04.193 work and not laziness. 0:06:04.234 --> 0:06:09.913 Oh yeah, well I would say I'm feeling less fire 0:06:09.993 --> 0:06:15.434 horse and more water. Is there a wa No, there 0:06:15.474 --> 0:06:17.234 is one I've added. 0:06:19.073 --> 0:06:19.993 In the world. 0:06:21.553 --> 0:06:28.354 Water exactly exactly. But I'm on my back, floating, sleeping. Yeah, 0:06:28.914 --> 0:06:30.073 and that's the energy. 0:06:30.633 --> 0:06:34.113 Yeah, I have a wildlife story that has nothing to 0:06:34.113 --> 0:06:36.394 do with anything just sidebarring. We can take it out 0:06:36.433 --> 0:06:40.073 if we want. Because another Chinese early ex sign. 0:06:39.914 --> 0:06:41.994 Is snake, which was the year we'd just had. 0:06:42.073 --> 0:06:46.113 I think, so yes, yes, And on Saturday, this is right, 0:06:46.154 --> 0:06:47.953 this is the exit of the Year of the Snake. 0:06:48.154 --> 0:06:51.433 And on Saturday, I was driving down a road near 0:06:51.474 --> 0:06:53.634 where I live, and I see steaks quite a lot. 0:06:53.674 --> 0:06:54.713 Where I live, because I live. 0:06:54.674 --> 0:06:56.833 In the in the country, not really the country, but 0:06:56.914 --> 0:06:59.393 you know, regional area, I see stakes quite a lot. 0:06:59.674 --> 0:07:01.674 I was driving down the roadwhere I live and. 0:07:01.633 --> 0:07:04.713 There was a huge like a huge. 0:07:04.393 --> 0:07:06.113 Green python in the middle of the road, like in 0:07:06.154 --> 0:07:07.714 the middle of the road, right it was going to 0:07:07.753 --> 0:07:10.074 get run over. And I was early in the morning, 0:07:10.194 --> 0:07:12.514 was like seven thirty in the morning and Saturday, and. 0:07:12.514 --> 0:07:14.714 I feel like a sign, Holly, but I don't know what. 0:07:15.114 --> 0:07:15.833 Well, here's me. 0:07:15.914 --> 0:07:17.874 I was like that poor snake it's going to get 0:07:17.914 --> 0:07:19.393 run over. So I pulled the car over. 0:07:19.914 --> 0:07:20.874 I go over the sea. 0:07:20.953 --> 0:07:21.314 Then what. 0:07:23.354 --> 0:07:27.234 Holly, I go over to see if the snake is 0:07:27.234 --> 0:07:27.994 in fact alive. 0:07:28.154 --> 0:07:30.474 It is. His little heads up. It's like all very 0:07:30.474 --> 0:07:31.914 busy like looking looking. 0:07:31.914 --> 0:07:34.434 And I'm like, how do I get the snake off 0:07:34.634 --> 0:07:37.394 the river along? Because it's going to get squished. And 0:07:37.514 --> 0:07:39.274 I don't know a lot about snakes, but I know 0:07:39.314 --> 0:07:42.474 that like where I live, we have black red belly snakes, 0:07:42.794 --> 0:07:45.514 venomous hie them's a chill. 0:07:45.234 --> 0:07:48.554 Hythens be chill. Anyway, I'm standing there looking like an. 0:07:48.554 --> 0:07:52.034 Idiot, like a city slicking idiot, staring at this snake. 0:07:52.674 --> 0:07:55.153 And a ute comes along and pulls up, and the 0:07:55.194 --> 0:07:57.194 man from Central Casting. 0:07:56.834 --> 0:08:00.713 Gets out of this car. Is the ozziest country bloke 0:08:00.794 --> 0:08:01.994 you have ever seen in your life. 0:08:02.034 --> 0:08:05.634 He's kind of older. He's literally wearing overalls. He's like 0:08:05.714 --> 0:08:07.994 looks at me like I'm really stupid. But he's quite kind, 0:08:08.074 --> 0:08:08.953 so he's like dull. 0:08:12.874 --> 0:08:13.593 For that sake. 0:08:13.714 --> 0:08:15.074 You're like, I was just having a child. 0:08:15.754 --> 0:08:17.194 I just don't want him to die. 0:08:18.194 --> 0:08:21.593 He's just looking at me like anyway, I said, I 0:08:21.634 --> 0:08:22.914 was thinking, how am I get a stick? 0:08:22.994 --> 0:08:23.874 And like, try and. 0:08:23.994 --> 0:08:26.994 Push it off the road, and he's like, you're an idiot, 0:08:27.314 --> 0:08:29.794 and he said, not poisons, but they're snappy little buggers. 0:08:29.874 --> 0:08:31.994 And then he goes over to the snake. He picked 0:08:31.994 --> 0:08:35.434 it up, grabs it by the head and throws it 0:08:35.514 --> 0:08:38.634 into the giant python. 0:08:39.154 --> 0:08:41.274 And he was just like, there you go. He'll live 0:08:41.314 --> 0:08:43.114 to fight another day now. And he goes back in. 0:08:43.114 --> 0:08:44.354 His car and he drives off. 0:08:44.234 --> 0:08:46.594 And I was like, snake encounters. 0:08:46.794 --> 0:08:48.554 I love country people. 0:08:48.754 --> 0:08:52.034 Now I realized that was the exit of the Year 0:08:52.074 --> 0:08:52.554 of the snake. 0:08:53.234 --> 0:08:55.154 I still have a few days to have a snake 0:08:55.194 --> 0:08:58.514 baby well, because I was too early for this. 0:08:58.754 --> 0:09:01.594 Yeah, you can't one of that battle no snake baby 0:09:01.834 --> 0:09:02.794 babies inside. 0:09:03.034 --> 0:09:05.794 But I have had two snake encounters this year. We 0:09:05.874 --> 0:09:08.514 had an encounter with a diamond pythen and I got 0:09:08.514 --> 0:09:11.274 Matilda really into the snake, and then every morning she'd 0:09:11.314 --> 0:09:17.114 get up and say snakes. Yah. It was in a 0:09:17.154 --> 0:09:21.154 tree where Matilda was playing. Yeah. And then we saw 0:09:21.154 --> 0:09:22.194 one on the road as well. 0:09:22.354 --> 0:09:25.394 Apparently they like to warm themselves up on the tarmac. Yeah, 0:09:25.474 --> 0:09:27.994 that's my friend, that's what my friend would who picked 0:09:27.994 --> 0:09:29.674 the snake up told me, don't try that at home 0:09:29.754 --> 0:09:32.234 kN and that had nothing to do with that, but 0:09:32.434 --> 0:09:33.594 I just wanted to share. 0:09:33.834 --> 0:09:36.953 Also, just a reminder, So, Claire, you and I are 0:09:36.994 --> 0:09:40.754 on a subscriber episode with Maya where you talk about 0:09:41.474 --> 0:09:45.554 discovering that you were pregnant. What the journey's been like 0:09:46.074 --> 0:09:49.634 so far. There's some Duty Twins stuff. Yeah, yeah, that 0:09:50.194 --> 0:09:52.914 of mea locktus in a room and just asked all 0:09:52.954 --> 0:09:55.034 the questions. Yeah, and she even said yes sday she 0:09:55.034 --> 0:09:57.034 said I left a little surprise for you at the 0:09:57.114 --> 0:10:00.794 end of the episode. So she's making us listen downloads. Yeah, 0:10:00.874 --> 0:10:01.714 she's desperate. 0:10:05.114 --> 0:10:09.474 Moving on Lewis Kim kissing at the Super Bowl AI. 0:10:09.714 --> 0:10:11.754 Apparently they were there. They were sitting next week to 0:10:11.754 --> 0:10:12.914 other but apparently. 0:10:12.474 --> 0:10:15.473 Those photos you've seen of them kissing AI. 0:10:15.554 --> 0:10:18.674 Don't trick me. You know what I keep getting spammed 0:10:18.834 --> 0:10:21.874 is AI images of Megan and Harry and their children. Yes, 0:10:21.994 --> 0:10:24.554 and it's clearly not them because I don't share pictures 0:10:24.554 --> 0:10:26.554 of their kids. But I'm like, who is making these 0:10:26.594 --> 0:10:27.354 and why? 0:10:27.514 --> 0:10:30.034 Catherine and William like laughing up Royal's lee and passion, 0:10:30.154 --> 0:10:32.954 Like there's a lot of confusing stuff out there. Obviously 0:10:33.314 --> 0:10:36.154 Posh dancing at Brooklyn's wedding. We know thats AI because 0:10:36.154 --> 0:10:39.514 Brooklyn's holding that ace up his sleep for his next drop. 0:10:40.754 --> 0:10:43.034 But did you know that a lot of people are 0:10:43.034 --> 0:10:47.314 also getting AI kids school pictures? Now, let me tell 0:10:47.354 --> 0:10:50.314 you a story in the Nine Newspapers this week by 0:10:50.394 --> 0:10:53.394 Marie Eldar explained that when she picked her kid up 0:10:53.394 --> 0:10:55.834 from school photo day recently, she was like, how did 0:10:55.874 --> 0:10:58.354 the photos go? And her kids said, we didn't have 0:10:58.474 --> 0:11:02.874 class photo. They're going to use AI to make it. Evidently, 0:11:03.114 --> 0:11:06.634 Marie writes, the photographer took individual photos of each student 0:11:06.674 --> 0:11:09.154 instead and seething positions. So that's a lot of a 0:11:09.154 --> 0:11:11.834 lot of work still, and then we'll string them together 0:11:11.954 --> 0:11:15.554 using AI to create a group one where everybody looks great. 0:11:15.714 --> 0:11:19.034 Individual photos stitch together to create a moment that never happened, 0:11:19.394 --> 0:11:22.554 rather than capture one that did. I hate this so right, 0:11:22.594 --> 0:11:24.674 So I kind of hate it too because I was like, 0:11:25.434 --> 0:11:28.954 but somebody looking weird on the weird. 0:11:28.754 --> 0:11:32.114 I need to start. I think it's pejorative, someone looking 0:11:32.154 --> 0:11:35.353 a bit distracted, a bit messy, yeah, eyes closed. 0:11:35.834 --> 0:11:38.874 The fact it takes you half a day and teachers, 0:11:38.954 --> 0:11:43.034 you get out of class, it's really hot, you get 0:11:43.074 --> 0:11:45.834 a really angry photographer. A quarter of the people in 0:11:45.834 --> 0:11:49.274 the photo look really bad. You then have the status 0:11:49.274 --> 0:11:50.594 of whether you have to sit in the front row 0:11:50.714 --> 0:11:51.994 or the back you're going to go. 0:11:52.434 --> 0:11:53.914 And so I was thinking about all that too, and 0:11:53.954 --> 0:11:56.114 what we have lost, And then I made a point 0:11:56.154 --> 0:11:58.674 that's probably more intellectual than mine. She said, we've just 0:11:58.754 --> 0:12:00.754 won a small victory in the new social media band 0:12:00.754 --> 0:12:02.354 for kids, but now it's showing them that. 0:12:02.314 --> 0:12:03.714 It's okay to fake photos. 0:12:04.154 --> 0:12:06.634 In discussion with other parents in the group chat, I 0:12:06.634 --> 0:12:09.954 assume they pointed out bigger concerns. Where would these images 0:12:09.994 --> 0:12:13.114 be stored, Which AI tool were they being fed into? 0:12:13.234 --> 0:12:17.754 Would their likenesses turn up somewhere unexpected? And I feel 0:12:17.794 --> 0:12:20.234 like this is the week where everywhere I've looked, the 0:12:20.274 --> 0:12:23.634 sort of tsunami of AI use is finally tipping over 0:12:23.674 --> 0:12:28.074 into everything. There was a really confronting, very thorough four 0:12:28.114 --> 0:12:31.794 thousand word piece in the Australian mag by Roz Thomas 0:12:31.874 --> 0:12:35.154 about the use of AI among UNI students and that 0:12:35.274 --> 0:12:39.194 basically said that a conservative estimate of how many students 0:12:39.234 --> 0:12:42.354 and these were like, these students were studying everything from 0:12:42.754 --> 0:12:48.194 economic social sciences, nursing, marketing, business were outsourcing almost all 0:12:48.234 --> 0:12:51.914 their study, and conservative estimate was around eighty five percent, 0:12:52.354 --> 0:12:54.274 and a lot of the academics said they think it's 0:12:54.274 --> 0:12:57.354 closer to ninety at least. A typical quote from this 0:12:57.474 --> 0:13:00.754 from one of the students was it's seven forty am, 0:13:00.834 --> 0:13:02.914 twenty minutes before the exam is due to begin, and 0:13:02.994 --> 0:13:05.514 Hayden is still asleep. Has he slept through his alarm, 0:13:05.754 --> 0:13:08.794 exhausted from late night crammy? Nope, the only work he's 0:13:08.834 --> 0:13:11.474 done for this exam is researching which AI he'll. 0:13:11.354 --> 0:13:12.674 Cheat to get the best marks. 0:13:12.954 --> 0:13:14.594 In a minute or two, he'll roll out of bed, 0:13:14.634 --> 0:13:16.674 slap some water on his face, and fire up his laptop. 0:13:16.914 --> 0:13:19.954 At eight am, he'll feed his exam paper into chat GPT. 0:13:20.434 --> 0:13:22.834 By eight six am, it will have gifted him thirty 0:13:22.914 --> 0:13:26.234 correct answers. Hayden knows a perfect score will trip the 0:13:26.314 --> 0:13:29.434 university's AI detectors, so he'll deliberately mangle a couple of 0:13:29.434 --> 0:13:32.234 responses to get him to ninety four percent. Then he'll 0:13:32.274 --> 0:13:35.434 wait three hours to mimic a genuine exam effort before 0:13:35.474 --> 0:13:38.754 firing his A plus paper back to his examiner. Hayden 0:13:38.794 --> 0:13:41.594 has now graduated with a high distinction. How much of 0:13:41.634 --> 0:13:43.994 his final year studies did he outsource to AI? 0:13:44.554 --> 0:13:46.794 All of it? He says, without skipping a beat. 0:13:47.554 --> 0:13:50.154 And this article goes on to interview more students who 0:13:50.154 --> 0:13:52.714 all say the same thing. More teachers also the same thing, 0:13:53.154 --> 0:13:55.274 and I was like, I'm troubled. 0:13:55.354 --> 0:13:56.074 Are we troubled? 0:13:56.154 --> 0:13:56.954 We're so troubled? 0:13:56.994 --> 0:13:58.634 But then I thought, am I being a Luddite for 0:13:58.674 --> 0:13:59.754 being troubled? No? 0:14:00.234 --> 0:14:02.874 No, there's a quote in there that says it's from 0:14:02.954 --> 0:14:07.674 a Unie student who says, we use AI to answer 0:14:07.674 --> 0:14:11.194 the questions on our AI generated papers so that our 0:14:11.514 --> 0:14:15.234 lecturers or tutors can use AI to mark them. And 0:14:15.274 --> 0:14:18.314 I was like, that is the most depressing thing I've 0:14:18.314 --> 0:14:22.034 ever heard. I mean, you're not learning anything. And academics, 0:14:22.074 --> 0:14:23.634 a lot of academics are saying, is this going to 0:14:23.634 --> 0:14:26.754 be a post literate generation? And I feel for not 0:14:27.114 --> 0:14:29.754 only academics, but teachers who went into this field because 0:14:29.754 --> 0:14:32.674 they love reading the thoughts and the ideas and the 0:14:32.754 --> 0:14:36.874 mistakes of young people like that. That's the whole point 0:14:36.994 --> 0:14:39.074 is like engaging with that and being like, I have 0:14:39.194 --> 0:14:42.194 never read that idea before, What an interesting perspective, And 0:14:42.234 --> 0:14:45.594 that's never going to come out of AI and you've 0:14:45.594 --> 0:14:47.714 got you could even tell they interviewed someone who is 0:14:47.754 --> 0:14:50.594 in like year eight, that year eight kid thinks they're 0:14:50.594 --> 0:14:53.594 smarter than the teacher, which even that dynamic and maybe 0:14:53.634 --> 0:14:57.594 when it comes to AI and kind of getting around them, 0:14:57.634 --> 0:15:01.074 maybe they are. But the worry with the university students 0:15:01.194 --> 0:15:02.754 is that in five minutes they're going to be in 0:15:02.794 --> 0:15:03.914 the workplace. 0:15:04.394 --> 0:15:05.154 Having faked the. 0:15:07.194 --> 0:15:10.834 Answers. But then I went, Okay, maybe they're more set 0:15:10.914 --> 0:15:12.434 up for the workplace than I am, because that's what 0:15:12.474 --> 0:15:16.194 I'm torn about. I'm thinking, well, is the future of 0:15:16.234 --> 0:15:18.834 the workplace, is the future of social sciences? Is the 0:15:18.874 --> 0:15:21.954 future of engineering? Or is the future of nursing just 0:15:21.994 --> 0:15:25.154 the ability to use AI? Really well, maybe it is, 0:15:25.194 --> 0:15:27.674 and maybe they're better trained than any of us. As 0:15:27.674 --> 0:15:32.194 depressing as that is, however, something that I take a 0:15:32.314 --> 0:15:38.714 little bit of glee from is that AI still stuffs up. 0:15:39.594 --> 0:15:42.594 And so I love when we're doing. 0:15:42.354 --> 0:15:45.474 So little bit worrying. If you're a patient of the nursing. 0:15:45.234 --> 0:15:50.594 Well, exactly A has a little hallucinating exactly so, Jess, 0:15:50.634 --> 0:15:52.114 I don't know if you've told this story or not 0:15:52.274 --> 0:15:56.394 loud before about so you know, we're all using chat 0:15:56.474 --> 0:15:59.354 jpt some kind of AI tool for a million different things. 0:15:59.434 --> 0:16:02.154 I am using it as a doctor at this point, 0:16:02.194 --> 0:16:04.994 I'm ingesting. The other day I had food poisonings. Doctors 0:16:05.034 --> 0:16:09.634 will love that. Yeah, and it's pretty bloody good. It 0:16:09.674 --> 0:16:11.834 breaks down like this to go to the hospital. 0:16:12.194 --> 0:16:13.794 As far as you know, it's pretty good. 0:16:13.834 --> 0:16:18.634 Anyway, I'm still standing, Yeah, I'm still standing. But we 0:16:18.674 --> 0:16:22.714 went to a lovely murder mystery murder mystery night at 0:16:22.754 --> 0:16:26.874 a friend's place late last year, and obviously the person, 0:16:27.354 --> 0:16:30.754 lovely lovely girl who organized it did it through chat JPT. 0:16:30.994 --> 0:16:33.394 So she's like, chat JPT, we're doing a murder mystery night. 0:16:33.674 --> 0:16:36.394 Give me characters, give me like an outfit that people 0:16:36.394 --> 0:16:40.794 should wear. Yeah, I had to wear a ball gown. 0:16:41.634 --> 0:16:43.834 It was everybody else was in these funny costumes and 0:16:43.874 --> 0:16:45.714 I was in heels and address and I'm like, that's 0:16:45.994 --> 0:16:51.914 chat JPT. I hate you. But chat GPT had aneurysm 0:16:52.074 --> 0:16:57.194 at some point during planning this whole thing. The hallucination 0:16:57.234 --> 0:16:59.354 of chat JPT made the night. It was because it 0:16:59.394 --> 0:17:02.794 was completely inconsistent. It was that clue didn't match that 0:17:03.434 --> 0:17:06.194 we get being like, wait, what, that's not what my thing, 0:17:06.314 --> 0:17:10.194 and everyone speaking in accents. It was a nineteen twenties 0:17:10.273 --> 0:17:13.474 murder mystery. There was one guy who was like a 0:17:13.514 --> 0:17:16.474 pe teacher and was complete. He was running a gym. Yeah, 0:17:16.514 --> 0:17:18.034 and we were like, I don't think there were gims 0:17:18.074 --> 0:17:21.513 completely modern and it was the funniest but I just 0:17:21.594 --> 0:17:26.154 went so long as chat GPT still makes mistakes, we're safe. 0:17:26.434 --> 0:17:30.914 So long as there are images where people have three hands, 0:17:31.114 --> 0:17:33.234 at least we've got some chance. 0:17:32.954 --> 0:17:36.434 Of where far off that I can tell, I've Kim 0:17:36.514 --> 0:17:39.474 and Lewis looked pretty convincing pashing at the super Bowl. 0:17:39.514 --> 0:17:42.314 They were in exactly the right outfits. Didn't you come 0:17:42.354 --> 0:17:44.154 across a weird robot thing this week? 0:17:44.194 --> 0:17:44.394 Too? 0:17:44.514 --> 0:17:48.834 So? I was watching the Lucy let Be documentary on Netflix. 0:17:48.954 --> 0:17:52.994 So she is the British nurse, Yeah, who is convicted 0:17:53.034 --> 0:17:54.513 of murdering several children. 0:17:54.714 --> 0:17:56.674 Yes, so over a twelve month period there were a 0:17:56.714 --> 0:17:57.514 number of children. 0:17:57.954 --> 0:17:59.954 Who's another one of those light things that you like 0:18:00.034 --> 0:18:00.274 to watch. 0:18:00.434 --> 0:18:05.154 Yeah, exactly who died. They were in Nicu, and they 0:18:05.194 --> 0:18:07.994 died because of circumstances that no one could really explained. 0:18:07.994 --> 0:18:10.714 So they did an investigation. Lucy let Be came out 0:18:10.714 --> 0:18:12.954 as having been on shift. So Lucy let Be was 0:18:12.994 --> 0:18:15.474 found guilty in a court of law, and it's about 0:18:15.554 --> 0:18:18.273 the courtroom and the trial and everything that happened, but 0:18:18.354 --> 0:18:22.154 also the debate that's occurred even since. But she's convicted 0:18:22.154 --> 0:18:24.594 and she's currently in jail. So at the beginning of 0:18:24.634 --> 0:18:29.593 the documentary it says names, appearances, and voices have been altered, 0:18:29.594 --> 0:18:33.794 which is something I've seen before to protect identifying information. 0:18:33.914 --> 0:18:36.834 I thought, particularly because it was to do with babies 0:18:36.874 --> 0:18:41.474 and the sensitive, incredibly sensitive subject matter, I thought, oh, okay, 0:18:41.514 --> 0:18:45.474 I totally understand that. But it was when digitally anonymized 0:18:45.554 --> 0:18:47.514 came up that I went, oh, that's a term I'm 0:18:47.554 --> 0:18:52.354 unfamiliar with. And the first I suppose, like witness person 0:18:52.354 --> 0:18:55.034 that they have comes on and it says Zoe's mum 0:18:55.034 --> 0:18:58.114 and Zoe was one of the victims. And in the 0:18:58.234 --> 0:19:02.594 top right corner it said digitally anonymized something wasn't right. 0:19:02.714 --> 0:19:05.434 Her eyes weren't right, her skin wasn't quite right. And 0:19:05.434 --> 0:19:09.674 I went, robot and I just want to play you 0:19:09.714 --> 0:19:12.434 a little bit of what this person says. 0:19:12.834 --> 0:19:16.994 Three weeks before my duty, I woke up and my 0:19:17.034 --> 0:19:17.994 water had broken. 0:19:19.754 --> 0:19:20.793 This was it. 0:19:20.794 --> 0:19:28.954 It was happening at the hospital. 0:19:29.674 --> 0:19:35.114 I got checked out and a scan confirmed everything was fine, 0:19:35.754 --> 0:19:37.674 so we were ready to meet little Zoe. 0:19:38.954 --> 0:19:41.554 So that's not a human talking, no. 0:19:41.474 --> 0:19:46.594 So I was really confused, just going is that a 0:19:46.674 --> 0:19:51.274 human or not? And to be clear, Zoe's mum cries, 0:19:51.794 --> 0:19:55.674 she emotes, she picks up a tissue. There's another one 0:19:55.754 --> 0:19:58.354 where a best friend of Lucy let be she goes 0:19:58.354 --> 0:20:01.994 through pictures of her and Lucy like from all across 0:20:01.994 --> 0:20:03.793 the years, and it's this woman. 0:20:03.914 --> 0:20:09.474 But they're robots, so I can understand what you're saying. 0:20:09.594 --> 0:20:12.274 Bear with me because I'm not a robot. It takes 0:20:12.314 --> 0:20:14.794 me a minute. So in a documentary, you know how, 0:20:14.874 --> 0:20:17.234