WEBVTT - Introducing... Little Love Stories

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mea podcast. Mama Mea acknowledges

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is recorded on. Hello, it's Mia Friedman and I'm dropping

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<v Speaker 1>into your ears with not an episode of No Filter,

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<v Speaker 1>but a brand new podcast from Mama Mea that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share with you, which is kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the same family as No Filter, because if you like

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<v Speaker 1>No Filter, you are going to love Little Love Stories.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a longtime listener of Muma Mea podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have heard of or even listened to at

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<v Speaker 1>one stage, our family podcast called This Glorious Mess. It

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<v Speaker 1>was our third ever podcast. The first one was Muma

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<v Speaker 1>Mer Out Loud, then No Filter, and then This Glorious

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<v Speaker 1>Mess back in the day. It was hosted by my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Holly Wainwright and the very entertaining Andrew Daddo, and

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<v Speaker 1>over the years with a roster of incredible hosts who

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<v Speaker 1>have aged in and out depending on the ages of

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<v Speaker 1>their children, the podcast has solved many a parent dilemma.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken to experts, We've vented about breastfeeding, and daycare

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<v Speaker 1>and mental load, pretty much everything our identity, all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that are connected to parenting and a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago we started changing things up at this Glorious

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<v Speaker 1>Mess and it entered its new era. Joining our co

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<v Speaker 1>host Tigan Natoli, who is a mother of three little kids,

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<v Speaker 1>including twins, we have Annalise Todd, who is in a

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<v Speaker 1>different phase of parenting. You may know Annalise as the

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<v Speaker 1>person from our socials who's the elder millennial who's been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand socks. She's often walking around the Mama

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<v Speaker 1>Mea office wearing a promotional blanket from Binge that got

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<v Speaker 1>sent in for something because she gets very cold. We

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<v Speaker 1>have welcomed her to the show. She is a single

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<v Speaker 1>mother of two boys who are older than Tiger Natolei's kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've also welcomed Sarah Marie Fad to the Mum

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<v Speaker 1>and Mea family and you'll know her from seeing her

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<v Speaker 1>on TV on goggle Box. But it's not just new

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<v Speaker 1>hosts that we've got. We've got new stories and experts

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<v Speaker 1>and guests to reflect exactly what it means to be

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<v Speaker 1>a parent or too parent in twenty twenty four, little

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<v Speaker 1>people and big people of all ages. And as part

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<v Speaker 1>of this glow up, we have introduced a new episode

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<v Speaker 1>every week and it's called Little Love Stories, and each

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<v Speaker 1>episode is an open hearted interview with someone who has

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<v Speaker 1>a story about love in all kinds of different forms.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be about a person, or an object or

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<v Speaker 1>an event. It's all under the broad umbrella of families

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<v Speaker 1>and love. Little Love Stories explores gratitude through writing, first

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of a love letter, and that letter

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<v Speaker 1>then becomes a heartfelt conversation about that topic. And there

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<v Speaker 1>is such a wide range of stories. There are poignant

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<v Speaker 1>stories with a love letter from a woman to her

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<v Speaker 1>breasts after a mastectomy. They've all got so much heart.

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<v Speaker 1>There is one writing to a mother who's no longer around,

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<v Speaker 1>also pivoting a full one eighty to complete silliness, sharing

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<v Speaker 1>a love letter to a therma mix. People are obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with therm mixes for making parenting that little bit easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it does. I don't know. I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Love Stories is great because it just shows that

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<v Speaker 1>it's inspiring, it's good news, it's happy news, and it

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<v Speaker 1>shows these little moments of love and magic. And the

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<v Speaker 1>episode I'm going to share with you today in case

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<v Speaker 1>you're wondering if I'm ever going to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>point and stop talking. It is a love note essay

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<v Speaker 1>by This Glorious Mess host and Elise Todd, who I

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<v Speaker 1>told you about. As I said, she's a single parent

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<v Speaker 1>to two boys who are tweens, and it certainly hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been easy for her to transition to this new lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>in a new city as a single mother. But she

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<v Speaker 1>had a moment recently that really gave her some hope

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<v Speaker 1>and inspiration and a little bit of perspective. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Little Love Stories by This Glorious Mess. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear that podcast, search This Glorious Mess in

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts and follow it. I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you lived with your From Mamma Mia and This

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<v Speaker 2>Glorious Mess. Welcome to Little Love Stories. I'm Grace Ruvey,

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<v Speaker 2>the producer of This Glorious Mess, and if my voice

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<v Speaker 2>sounds familiar, you may have heard me on Mumma MIA's news.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast, The Quickie.

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<v Speaker 2>As I've gotten older, I've enjoyed hearing stories about bravery.

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<v Speaker 2>When we're young, bravery is really only marketed to us

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<v Speaker 2>as physical strength or maybe standing up to.

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<v Speaker 3>The bad guy or the bully.

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<v Speaker 2>All these sensationalized Hollywood ideas of bravery. But with age

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<v Speaker 2>and experience, I realized bravery comes in many forms and

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<v Speaker 2>unexpected moments. Our story today is our very own host

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<v Speaker 2>of this glorious mess. Annelie Todd, our wise cracking and

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<v Speaker 2>open hearted writer, podcaster and single mum of two. There

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<v Speaker 2>has been such a stigma for so many years about

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<v Speaker 2>single mums. It's portrayed us as negative. I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>this position lightly or responsibility lightly, to just normalize that

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<v Speaker 2>this is what a family can look like. But Annelie's

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<v Speaker 2>Todd isn't just deep in the throes of parenting. She's

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<v Speaker 2>been demonstrating strength to her two sons in some less

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<v Speaker 2>obvious ways. Oh well, here's an opportunity that I can

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<v Speaker 2>give this to my sons. Now, I can show them

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<v Speaker 2>that women can be strong and brave and capable. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was really drawn to today's little love story as

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<v Speaker 2>it asks the question, how do you instill and teach

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<v Speaker 2>respect to people children, even when you're still learning how.

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<v Speaker 3>To respect yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, here's what a little bit of love sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like today?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, oh my god, what's the word? Excellent question? I

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<v Speaker 3>want to get my answer right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what does love mean to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Safety? Support, passion, support, adoration, comfort, Yeah, safety, intimacy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Heart stressful, interesting and fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Eating, sexy, communicating.

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<v Speaker 3>Dedication, compromise and trust, warm.

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<v Speaker 2>Full and safe an alys. I've been looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation. Welcome to little love Stories. You have so

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<v Speaker 2>many stories, but this one, it's a pretty important one

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<v Speaker 2>for you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is. I think it's important for me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think I love sharing single parents stories and voices.

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<v Speaker 3>You wanted to redefine what it is to be a

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<v Speaker 3>single parent, or at least the perceived perception of what

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<v Speaker 3>it is to be a single parent. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like those perceptions are. I mean, look at the fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't even allowed out of the house. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think there has been such a stigma for so many

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<v Speaker 3>years about single mums. It's portrayed as negative. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't take this position lightly or responsibility lightly to just

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<v Speaker 3>normalize that this is what a family can look like

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<v Speaker 3>and it's okay, and it's actually not all doom and gloom,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's far from it. There really are silver linings

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<v Speaker 3>to any situation in life. So I'm just happy to

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<v Speaker 3>share it and be here with your beautiful, soothing voice.

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<v Speaker 2>So your little love story essay. It's full of vivid

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<v Speaker 2>examples of your life as a single mum. It begins

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<v Speaker 2>with you describing your unique commune life as you call it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I can confirm I have been to the commune. So

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<v Speaker 2>you had a moment Alice where your perspective of being

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<v Speaker 2>a single parent. I won't say it started to change immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>but it opened up the possibility for change. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>talk me through that trigger point, what happened and how

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<v Speaker 2>it started to evolve.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a beautiful friend over who'd been a single

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<v Speaker 3>mom for many, many years, and she also has two

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<v Speaker 3>sons very similar ages to mine, and so I was

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<v Speaker 3>very much sort of leaning in on her because, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in those early times, you just lean in on other

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<v Speaker 3>singles parents because they just get it. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>a Friday night, we'd had a commune dinner, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course I can never get the TV or internetworking in

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<v Speaker 3>my house. It's just a permanent pain point, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to set up the TV. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>so frustrating, but obviously I was trying to hide in

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<v Speaker 3>front of the kids and my girlfriend. She was just

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<v Speaker 3>so calm under pressure, and her little boy, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he would have been gosh nine. He just said, my

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<v Speaker 3>mum will figure it out. She can do anything, and

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<v Speaker 3>she did figure it out. In that moment, I just

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<v Speaker 3>saw this hope for a positive that can come out

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<v Speaker 3>of the experience for children of divorce. Because of course,

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<v Speaker 3>when you have kids, and especially if you separated, the

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<v Speaker 3>first thing you think about is inflicting pain and trauma

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<v Speaker 3>and how it's going to impact them and the blueprint

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<v Speaker 3>of their life. But in that moment, I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>positive from the child's perspective of how he viewed his mum,

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<v Speaker 3>that faith, and how he viewed her as so strong

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<v Speaker 3>and capable and brave. And I thought, oh, well, here's

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity that I can give this to my sons.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I can show them that women can be strong

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<v Speaker 3>and brave and capable, and I can make them feel

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<v Speaker 3>very connected with women, and that's hopefully going to set

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<v Speaker 3>them up for relationships, whether it's romantic or any women

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<v Speaker 3>in their lives. I felt like, great, they can have

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<v Speaker 3>that connection and that respect to women.

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<v Speaker 2>In another part of your essay, you talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>you would never have chosen this life, but then you

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<v Speaker 2>go on to speak about how it's given you identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you read that part out for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, nobody has kids thinking they will only see them

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<v Speaker 3>half the time. It's incomprehensible, even nearly two years on.

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<v Speaker 3>I miss them when I'm not with them. It goes

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<v Speaker 3>against the very instinct we form from the moment they're

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<v Speaker 3>planked on our chest to sniff their heads and kiss

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<v Speaker 3>them good night every night. When I'm with them, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a feeling of wholeness that I don't have when they're

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<v Speaker 3>not there. But I didn't get a choice, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>choosing to make the best of it. And I do

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<v Speaker 3>like many things in life that test us, that breaks

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<v Speaker 3>down the very fiber of our being. When we do

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<v Speaker 3>manage to rebuild ourselves back together again, it can be

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<v Speaker 3>the making of us. And I would go as far

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<v Speaker 3>as saying that as a single mum, I am a

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<v Speaker 3>more present, better parent than I was before. And for that,

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<v Speaker 3>and for all the reasons above, I can only have

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<v Speaker 3>gratitude for all the silver linings that brings.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're reading parts of your article out, it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hit you in a different way. What did it

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<v Speaker 2>bring up and what are you feeling now?

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<v Speaker 3>In order to function in fifty to fifty custody, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be able to compartmentalize. When I'm with my kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all in, But when I'm not with them, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to be able to have a wall because it's

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<v Speaker 3>just too painful. No one has kids thinking they'll only

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<v Speaker 3>see them half the time. It's a grief.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know so much about these silver linings of

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<v Speaker 2>your beautiful commune life, but can you talk us through

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<v Speaker 2>a few of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's so important to caveat because I get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of feedback from single mums when I talk

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<v Speaker 3>about my experience who don't get breaks, who have soul custody.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot speak to them and their experience because that

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<v Speaker 3>would be the kind of relentless, exhausting experience that I

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<v Speaker 3>can't even imagine, and most of us couldn't fathom doing

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<v Speaker 3>that on your own twenty four seven. For those of

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<v Speaker 3>us who do get breaks, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>double life. You know. When I'm in mum mode, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>all in, But then when I don't have my kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I get to be really selfish. For the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in ten years, I was able to be selfish, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's such a foreign concept, particularly for mums,

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have the freedom and the luxury

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<v Speaker 3>to be selfish. Well, let's dig into what you've found

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<v Speaker 3>about yourself through having this time to rediscover who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>What are the parts about your identity that you've discovered

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<v Speaker 3>by being a single parent. I love not being someone's wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I love it. I absolutely love it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I will never be someone's wife again. I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>want that label. I was so young when I got married,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like at forty, I finally can focus

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<v Speaker 3>on me and my career and I've got the time

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<v Speaker 3>and space to do that. Now. I can go to

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, I can go to the beach and read

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<v Speaker 3>a book. This is when I don't have my kids, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I go out a lot with friends, and I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I refound joy, you know, like that character and

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<v Speaker 3>inside out too, the function of joy that takes over

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<v Speaker 3>your brain. And I feel like she was lost and

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<v Speaker 3>she was lost in the back brain for a long

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<v Speaker 3>time and she's back and it's just I feel joy

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<v Speaker 3>in life again. And how do you put that joy

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<v Speaker 3>that you've found back into parenting? Do the two go

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<v Speaker 3>hand in hand? They definitely do. And it goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to having the breaks because I don't see them, so

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<v Speaker 3>I get rested, and I have that time and space

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<v Speaker 3>to be selfish. So when I am with them, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just so grateful for all of the time that I have,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just cherish every second. I don't take them

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<v Speaker 3>for granted anymore. I truly believe I took them for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be like ugh, parent burnout and I'm tired,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just want to go out with my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Well now I would like to see them more and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. So when I'm with them, I just breathe

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<v Speaker 3>them in, Yes, creepily. When they're asleep, I'll just walk

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<v Speaker 3>past and sniff their heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, will you do that with small children that aren't yours?

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<v Speaker 3>I know I am a head sniffer. It's a beautiful smell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's intoxicating.

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard all about the duality of balancing roles as

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<v Speaker 2>a single parent, but next up we hear the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of reclaiming personal time and identity. Annalie's the final part

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<v Speaker 2>of your essay talks about who you are defining yourself as. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>could you read that out for us?

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<v Speaker 3>I am good good at filling my social calendar, but

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<v Speaker 3>have also gotten good at being on my own, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am proud of that. Being single and having half

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<v Speaker 3>my time to myself, I got my identity back. But

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<v Speaker 3>more than that, there's a strength and resilience ingrained in

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<v Speaker 3>my new identity. When I am with my kids, I

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<v Speaker 3>cherish every second I get with them. I have more

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<v Speaker 3>patience and am just so appreciative of the time I

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<v Speaker 3>do have with them that I used to take for granted.

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<v Speaker 3>I've become a fun mum and I'm way more relaxed.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't sweat the small stuff like ice cream for dinner. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean sometimes picnick in front of the Telly watching

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<v Speaker 3>age inappropriate Reality TV. Definitely. We love doing that. And

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<v Speaker 3>we get to do activities together now that I enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>doing with the kids, And even though I see them less,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like a spectator on.

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<v Speaker 2>The sidelines anymore. What age inappropriate reality TV? Did you watch?

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<v Speaker 1>There?

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<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives Sydney is our favorite. Yes, that's probably our favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>We just finished Young Sheldon. We've just started modern family. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>we just have these little rituals and things that we

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<v Speaker 3>do together now that all three of us just enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>and just love so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see it now that there's this beautiful spark

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<v Speaker 2>and this energy as you're talking about it. So what

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<v Speaker 2>is the most exciting part of this part of your

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<v Speaker 2>journey and rediscovering yourself. I think the biggest misconception about

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<v Speaker 2>a marriage ending is that your life ends when your

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<v Speaker 2>marriage does. And one part of your life definitely ends,

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<v Speaker 2>that's dead, but it's also this new opportunity for a

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<v Speaker 2>new life and a new story, and you get to

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<v Speaker 2>write that story. I'm just very excited about my current

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<v Speaker 2>story and where it's going to go next. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>excited if someone is listening and they're a single parent

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<v Speaker 2>and they're holding that sense of shame or failure that,

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<v Speaker 2>as you've said, one part of their life's completely over.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want them to take away from this

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<v Speaker 2>or what do you want them to.

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<v Speaker 3>Start to work towards.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they're thought process around how they see themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>If anyone's early on in the journey, there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful bits of advice I've been given. One of them

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<v Speaker 3>is nothing is permanent. Everything's temporary, So no matter how

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<v Speaker 3>bad it feels in that moment, it literally won't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like that forever. And then the other beautiful piece of

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<v Speaker 3>advice that someone gave me was don't focus on the

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<v Speaker 3>light at the end of the tunnel. Just look out

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<v Speaker 3>for the glimmers while you're in it, and then at

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<v Speaker 3>some stage you'll wake up and you'll realize that you're

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<v Speaker 3>back in the light without even realizing it, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>living and loving life, and the light's actually brighter than

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<v Speaker 3>it was before.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is similar to that beautiful grief metaphor. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've seen it, where there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>ball and over time people think the ball gets smaller,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually the space around it that gets bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>So that divorce or that separation could always be a

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<v Speaker 2>pain point, but you're always going to find more space

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<v Speaker 2>around it, and you're going to find space for the

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<v Speaker 2>joy to come in or for new opportunities and new experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like that's something that you've really found

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<v Speaker 2>in your life over the past two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just time. It just takes time and building new, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>positive memories.

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<v Speaker 2>We always end our little love stories with the question

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<v Speaker 2>what qualities do you hold most dear about love now?

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<v Speaker 2>And what's that for you? Annalise to feel safe with love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's light and it's joy, and there's a doctor Sue saying,

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<v Speaker 2>which I love.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all a little weird and life's a little weird,

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<v Speaker 3>and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,

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<v Speaker 3>we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness

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<v Speaker 3>and call it love. Love, mutual weirdness, mutual weirdness. That's

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<v Speaker 3>our whole office, isn't it It is. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>love coming to work every day. We're all just being weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Annalise, thank you so much for sharing your little

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<v Speaker 2>love story and having this conversation today. Annalise is very

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<v Speaker 2>clever and you can hear her on This Glorious Mess

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<v Speaker 2>every week, and her full little love story essay will

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<v Speaker 2>be dropped.

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<v Speaker 3>In our episode of show Notes. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me, Gracey Greece.

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