WEBVTT - Zac "The Jaw Controversy" Efron

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to Cancel, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as science,

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<v Speaker 1>charges and sentences so we can all get on with

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens.

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<v Speaker 1>And Claire, do you have a lazy girl story for

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<v Speaker 1>us today? I do it as a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>personal one. All right, Okay, it's not what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't been through the well exactly. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>on holidays recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we were traveling

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<v Speaker 1>with an icon mom. Yeah. And Mom just had a

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<v Speaker 1>line which I thought would resonate a lot with lazy

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<v Speaker 1>girls everywhere. She was sitting on a couch when we

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<v Speaker 1>were in the south of France and she had a

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<v Speaker 1>book in front of her. Yeah, she said, I could read.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read, Yeah, but I prefer to be

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok. And I just thought, wow, that's it, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. It's it, and it's not just about reading,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about work. I think that a lot I got

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<v Speaker 1>I could be working, but I'd rather be on, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be on TikTok. And I thought, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those moments where somebody says the unsaid lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a lazy girl. There is something really liberating about

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. You know. I found myself with an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and I thought, you could exercise, could do laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>house has messy, got work to do. And I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting into my bed

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<v Speaker 1>and going, we're gonna have some TikTok uninterrupted TikTok time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a meme going around that was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your bedtime routine? These are the nine evidence based

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've built into my routine. I followed the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect nighttime routine. Welcome to my night routine. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes of TikTok, That's what it is. Nineteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>before I'm going to go to sleep. I get up

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<v Speaker 1>my phone and I start to scroll, and I lose

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<v Speaker 1>myself and any sense of time. It's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>always say I'm not a routine person. I can't do routine. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the one part of my routine that doesn't labor. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hours and I'm talking our hours. Yeah. Everyone says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got time to excite. No, I don'ry. I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have time. Well, because I got TikTok. Time

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<v Speaker 1>very important, always and sacred. You are about to enter

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<v Speaker 1>the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty,

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<v Speaker 1>the rulings are final. Today we're talking about zach Efron.

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<v Speaker 1>This could be the start with something news. What a

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<v Speaker 1>weird right, Maybe the world could be so I just

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and fucking jailed. What a budget penises on

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<v Speaker 1>my forehead. Frost before hose right, yeah, man, junk before truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Zachary David Alexander E. Fro Such a hot night, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I challenge you to have another. First name was born

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty seven in California. In high school, Efron

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<v Speaker 1>described himself as having been the class clown, I believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there he started singing lessons. He started acting in

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands, and one of his first roles

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<v Speaker 1>was in one of the greatest medical dramas of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Er here are some irrelevant and blurry images. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's on the table, and then the second

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<v Speaker 1>image is him with the doctor from me are Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have recently reunited in the Iron Clare because she

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<v Speaker 1>was the mother in the Iron Clare. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, because in Iron Claw I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>where do I know that woman? The turning point for

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<v Speaker 1>zac Efron came in two thousand and six with a

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<v Speaker 1>teen musical television film called High School Musical. This Something

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<v Speaker 1>It feels. So there's a controversy there, which we will

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<v Speaker 1>get to. He then start in Hairspray before doing High

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<v Speaker 1>School Musical two, followed seen every Zach from movie No

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<v Speaker 1>You Have, followed by a High School Musical three. My

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<v Speaker 1>prom is wherever you are. Some of his other movies

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<v Speaker 1>include Bad Neighbors. You've seen that, Bad Babies too. You've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that. We are gonna end the year with the

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<v Speaker 1>most legendary rager of all time. I'm talking even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than last year's White Trash Bash. Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I actually think they Watch is an excellent film. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I never watched it. Okay, The Greatest Showman. You've watched that?

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<v Speaker 1>Most recently The Iron Claw. You've watched that ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a child. People said my family was cursed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to protect with God. Oh, try to protect

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<v Speaker 1>us with wrestling. And have you seen a family affair?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that brand new? Yeah, you haven't seen on my Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't say it yet? Okay, no, have not seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't animated films because we talk about animated film

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<v Speaker 1>with zac Efron, but like you definitely haven't seen that

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<v Speaker 1>something you failed to mention. Sorry, are you getting to it? What? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up? Wait me meeting him this is the next Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't give it in anymore. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, Claire, I just wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't had any experiences that may prejudice the jury,

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<v Speaker 1>like say, having met zach Efron or anything of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon. I've mentioned it on this podcast close through

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred times. I did interview zach Efron, dis guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing greatest showman. I interviewed zach Efron and Zendia.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Efron is one of the most beautiful people I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever sat opposite. Elaborate it's his eyes for me and

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<v Speaker 1>I went in and the eye contact. You know those

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<v Speaker 1>people who they say like they have like a real

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<v Speaker 1>presence and eye contact, did not take his eyes off

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<v Speaker 1>me to the point what I walked out thinking, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a love story that just blossomed between us. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear from him in the aftermath, so you thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was very charismatic, very charismatic, funny. I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>the video on YouTube. Do you know, Oh, we should

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<v Speaker 1>reachhare the video because speaking of lazy girl, one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I never got my head around. I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>get my head around. I'm quite oily in the face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a hot summer's day and I was nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went in and I did this interview and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like my face is dripping. It's the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks because he would with and front And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst because that clip went viral because some fan

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<v Speaker 1>clipped it to say there was a moment of chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>between Sendaia and clearly the chemistry between me and him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the video of the body slam, did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about being a part of the musical

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<v Speaker 1>is that's you're ashamed of it. Yeah, something goes wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get rid of the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you've lived that way, you seriously will never

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<v Speaker 1>get anything accomplished. But it's literally got millions of views,

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<v Speaker 1>and there I am with the wettest face you do

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen. Even my friends messaged me being like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you put some powder on? And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I was in a rush. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a rush, I was dressed. I was concentrating on

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<v Speaker 1>my questions. But I think I've said on this podcast before, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>zac Efron, all the vibes then day are not as much,

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<v Speaker 1>only because she was very young and she was on

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<v Speaker 1>her phone. She's on her phone. You didn't lie that?

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<v Speaker 1>Where Zach? And you were like it even is? And

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<v Speaker 1>next minute, next minute, how embarrassing. I like zac Efron

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's sexy when he dances, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thoroughly enjoyed the greatest showman. I also think he's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a real laugh and bad neighbors. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's actually just neighbors? Yes, in America. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a fun guy, and I get that sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be a real fun person to her sense of

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<v Speaker 1>human My structure for today is as follows, High School

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<v Speaker 1>Musical and an Awkward Truth, A condom and a red carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>an altercation with a homeless man, the film New Year's Eve,

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<v Speaker 1>making the worst serial killer of all time, sexually arousing,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally face high School Musical and an Awkward Truth.

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<v Speaker 1>In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts

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<v Speaker 1>on the Disney Channel, and many say it's a modern

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of Romeo and juliet Ah. The film became an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous success with these young people with their singing and

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<v Speaker 1>they're dancing. I remember I was sick one time and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>a high school musical and it's great. It was really great.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched it. It's the music for me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not zac Efron's voy what that's Drew's voice, which

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<v Speaker 1>begs the question, who the fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley is a lovely young man

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<v Speaker 1>who loves to sing. He has been in some musicals

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<v Speaker 1>and some television and movies. But Zach. Everyone can sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Zac Efron can sing, so why didn't they use his voice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting okay. Sorry, I'm just okay, Efron said later

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview. In the first movie, after everything was recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>my voice was not on them. I was not really

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<v Speaker 1>given an explanation. It just kind of happened that way. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it put me in an awkward position. It's not something

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<v Speaker 1>I expected to be addressed then high school musical blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and

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<v Speaker 1>also that I've gotten the opportunity to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>try it again with my own voice. He's very talented.

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<v Speaker 1>I consider myself a regular kid that can carry a tune.

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<v Speaker 1>The party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone

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<v Speaker 1>is quite low. Yeah, R and all of Troy Bolton's

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<v Speaker 1>songs I've written for TENA, which is high. Yeah. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>so Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it

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<v Speaker 1>Drew tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud.

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<v Speaker 1>I read some interviews with Drew and I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not being mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but his most recent achievements are like web series. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't feel like he's Dak Cavron. He did though,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll have, you know, help with the lyrics for

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<v Speaker 1>get your head in the game outside keep you in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But then I went and looked up lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>get you. It's very get to hnd the game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very gets your head. It's get your head in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta, I gotta get my head in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he helped with the lyrics get your

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<v Speaker 1>head in the game. Maybe he changed it from get

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<v Speaker 1>your head in the game to get you because that

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<v Speaker 1>is it's officially gets your head in the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was I think it was nominated for an Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Oh wow, yeah, ye yeah, and Drew saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Efron did sing in the next two movies. There's ship

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<v Speaker 1>between Fron and Drew. I'll say that there's tension because

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<v Speaker 1>Drew's like, well, I didn't see Efron a lot because

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<v Speaker 1>I was there when he wasn't there. Make that lip

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<v Speaker 1>sincing so good? It's not not a thing. So it

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<v Speaker 1>happened during the Olympics, and there was like this person

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<v Speaker 1>who was like the voice of the Olympics when it

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<v Speaker 1>was in China, and she was remarkable. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>her voice. She had like star power, but she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the chops to pull it off. That's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable about saying Nicki Webster is that you know she

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<v Speaker 1>was Nicky Webster plus vocals. And with Zach, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Drew was a few years older as well, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, I would have looked weird next to

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Hudgens, and I'm like, yeah, that's maybe what all.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not Zach Efron Drew. We do have some very

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<v Speaker 1>condom and a red carpet. It's twenty twelve and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old Zac Efron is on the red carpet

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<v Speaker 1>for the premiere of his film Claire. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>this the Lorax? No? Is that animated? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why, because I sorry, I'm gonna need to see Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm going to the movie, it's to see him.

0:13:29.949 --> 0:13:32.229
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need to see you. Yeah. And as an aside,

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<v Speaker 1>in that movie, he lends his voice to a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year old, so he's kind of playing a twelve year old,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's twenty four. So, mom, do you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's like any place where I could get

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<v Speaker 1>a real tree? Anyway, he's trying to pose with his

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<v Speaker 1>hands in his pockets. He's got like a cool pose

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<v Speaker 1>and like sunglasses on and stuff. He's looking good, skinny,

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<v Speaker 1>Jean's absolutely height of the skinny jeans moment, and he

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<v Speaker 1>can't quite fitty his hands him. I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, probably because he has a big dick, but

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<v Speaker 1>I decided against it. So do you think he'd have

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<v Speaker 1>a big dick. I think he'd have a lovely love

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<v Speaker 1>would be lovely. But Pat's time, Yeah, just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on, you know what. Rather than that, I think

0:14:12.549 --> 0:14:15.029
<v Speaker 1>it's actually quite beautiful bottom. He's got a booty, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a booty. So he can't get his hands in,

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<v Speaker 1>so he empties his pockets and he kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>and gives it to the usher, like, oh, I should

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<v Speaker 1>just take outlets in my pockets. And as he does that,

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<v Speaker 1>something falls out onto the orange carpet and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a silver like an aluminium square, and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>condom or as Americans say, condom, a condom, a condom.

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<v Speaker 1>The condom drop happened with this movie poster in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Please describe the movie poster. Doctor zeuses the law axe

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's it's from the creators of Despicable Media,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's clearly for children. Is for children, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a children's movie and their twelve year old

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<v Speaker 1>had just dropped a condom mmmm on the orange so

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't catch chlamydia. I would assume this is irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 1>that is it. There was someone else who voiced in

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<v Speaker 1>that film, and it was Taylor Swift, And all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is that when he had a condom in his pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>m who was he going to use it on? Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>so my theory here that was one hundred percent a

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<v Speaker 1>pr stunt. Claire actually brought the video to show you

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<v Speaker 1>because I want you to tell me whether you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is on purpose or not, because the more I

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, the more I think it is genuinely an accident. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, because it's very hard to act taking things

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<v Speaker 1>out of your pocket and just dropping one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go so we can see him. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>on the red carpet. He's then like, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get these things. And I got some receipts,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some lip bum, maybe a coin or two. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's handing it to the usher and something's just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor. He's very quickly picked it up, put

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<v Speaker 1>it back in his pocket and needs that and now

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<v Speaker 1>he is mortified. He's putting sunglasses on, he's breathing deeply,

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<v Speaker 1>he's covering his mouth, he's looking the other way and laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>He is and I do think he's a brilliant actor.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is an A grade. Can I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>could interpret it either way. I mean, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hurt his career. Let's just say that because he's like,

0:16:18.949 --> 0:16:22.509
<v Speaker 1>I you know, it's very I have sex. Okay, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna say. Is you know when you're young,

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<v Speaker 1>like in high school, and everyone's like, oh no, my

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<v Speaker 1>my condoms are falling out of my wallet. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, no answer, and you're obsessed with your

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<v Speaker 1>own erect painters. It's very that, which is weird because

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<v Speaker 1>he's twenty four, Like that's a little bit old. Yeah,

0:16:42.629 --> 0:16:44.349
<v Speaker 1>but it's very when you're sing around with your friends

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, let's plea, Like, never have I ever

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<v Speaker 1>that it's threesome? I have, Like it's that. It's very that.

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<v Speaker 1>So after The law Axe, he went on to play

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<v Speaker 1>roles where he was actually an adult, like The Lucky

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<v Speaker 1>One and Bad Neighbors. I've seen the Lucky One is excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>He returns from war I believe that's a And Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who's in the lucky one is the woman

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<v Speaker 1>who ended up being the main woman. You know well

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<v Speaker 1>said so the question is in this was he saying

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<v Speaker 1>I need condoms because I use my penis sexually. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an adult man with an erection. Yeah, is that what

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<v Speaker 1>I represent? And I reckon it was very like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a Disney star anymore. Yeah, see, I need a condom.

0:17:28.589 --> 0:17:33.549
<v Speaker 1>What do you use condoms for? My dig nice an

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<v Speaker 1>altercation with a homeless man. There comes a point in

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<v Speaker 1>every Disney star's career where they have an altercation with

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<v Speaker 1>a home. In twenty fourteen, Efron reached that moment. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the skid Row area of Los Angeles. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that on Keeping Up with It has one

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest stable populations of homeless people in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police are called. They have one story. Efron

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<v Speaker 1>has a slightly different one. I'll start with the police.

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<v Speaker 1>The police reported that the fight started after midnight when

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<v Speaker 1>Efron threw a bottle out of the window of his car,

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<v Speaker 1>which shattered right near a group of homeless people. Efron

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<v Speaker 1>was ultimately punched in the face and police found him

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<v Speaker 1>and his bodyguard fighting with several homeless men under an overpass.

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<v Speaker 1>No one was arrested because it was considered mutual combat,

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<v Speaker 1>and one source described Efron as heavily intoxicated. Efron says

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<v Speaker 1>him and a friend were searching for something to eat

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<v Speaker 1>downtown and they ran out of petrol, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>to pull over. He said, a homeless guy or vagrant

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<v Speaker 1>tapped on the driver's side window. Before I knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend was out of the car. They started fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the homeless man was carrying some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>knife or shank, and I got out of the car

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<v Speaker 1>to disarm him. He said that being punched in the

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<v Speaker 1>face was the most terrifying moment in his life. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was around this time that Efron decided to get sober,

0:18:49.469 --> 0:18:51.989
<v Speaker 1>and he completed a stint in rehabs the drug and

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol abuse interested. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of disappeared for a little while, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>spoken a fair bit about it, like how all the

0:19:00.909 --> 0:19:04.869
<v Speaker 1>things that you get offered and struggling with addiction and

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<v Speaker 1>going to AA and that sort of thing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>happy with that story. I don't believe that you just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to run out of petrol in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>homeless person. I think he went to start a fight

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody he was with. My thing is always, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we pulled over to get something to eat. What was

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<v Speaker 1>after midnight? Had you don Yeah? You go through drive

0:19:24.189 --> 0:19:27.109
<v Speaker 1>through macas after midnight? Everyone knows that. Yeah, like what

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking for. And he's like, oh, we couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to eat the mate, it's twelve thirty. Yeah, everyone's closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Letter you watch go home and have some toast, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else. The film New Year's Eve. We've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>at length on this podcast about the twenty ten film

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer in Hollywood. Two

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica's a Julia, two tailors. I could go on, but

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<v Speaker 1>so did New Year's Eve. What we haven't spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>enough is the poor cousin of Valentine's Day, New Year's

0:19:56.789 --> 0:20:02.029
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Cooper Bradley Cooper twenty eleventh film, utilizing the exact

0:20:02.029 --> 0:20:05.829
<v Speaker 1>same formula by this point, the extent to which everyone

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to make love actually, but no one could.

0:20:08.669 --> 0:20:11.989
<v Speaker 1>No Americans couldn't. No. Can you just throw another name

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<v Speaker 1>that was in nears e Ah, who just can you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real strange mish match. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. That's why it's kind of hard,

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<v Speaker 1>because by this point I think the actors in Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day had realized Jennifer Garner, No, I think the actors

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<v Speaker 1>in Valentine's Day had realized that something terrible had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and they refused to ever work on a project again

0:20:40.469 --> 0:20:44.429
<v Speaker 1>that claimed to be like love actually but actually the

0:20:44.469 --> 0:20:46.909
<v Speaker 1>makers of Valentine's dates at around a table and said,

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<v Speaker 1>through gritted teeth, there are some actors left, There are

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<v Speaker 1>some did any crossover? Yeah? Okay, And so came New

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<v Speaker 1>Years Eve. Two actors crossed over. I'll show you this image.

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<v Speaker 1>Just start yelling out. Can I guess who crossed over?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have to tell me who crossed over? Okay?

0:21:03.309 --> 0:21:08.029
<v Speaker 1>So news Eve has Jessica Biel. Did she do that? Yeah? Yep, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Sarah just car Parker, yeah, uh, Catherine Heigel interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>she was picking up scraps Hashton cicture. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>I can't name, I just know their faces. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a Hilary Swang, Robert de Niro, Josh dem he was

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<v Speaker 1>with the chick from the Black Eyed Peas for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else, Liam Michelle, Hilary Swank, perhaps who else crossed

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<v Speaker 1>over Ashton? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and right in

0:21:40.069 --> 0:21:44.029
<v Speaker 1>the middle that zacky boy. Yeah. The plot is that

0:21:44.069 --> 0:21:46.549
<v Speaker 1>it follows several couples and singles in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of New Year's Age. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the IMDb page and it said award nominations, so I

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<v Speaker 1>clicked read the awards of nominations. H Worst Actress, Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Tska Parker, Worst Director Gary Marshall, Worst ensemble the entire cast,

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<v Speaker 1>Worst picture, and worst screenplay. What how it an achievement? Claire?

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<v Speaker 1>The film is terrible and I loved every minute. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think and I will die on this hill. That

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<v Speaker 1>front was a standout. Yeah. Can you remember the best

0:22:22.389 --> 0:22:25.269
<v Speaker 1>scene in the movie. You can, you can, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>below the surface. Sorry, I was just thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>other dating, which is excellent. I'm sorry, but he picks

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<v Speaker 1>excellent films, excellent film, great mixture. I remember watching that

0:22:38.789 --> 0:22:40.989
<v Speaker 1>movie and being like you really captured like a relation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a little bit funny. After the movie ends

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<v Speaker 1>and the credits roll. We just get to watch Zach dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this? He kisses Michelle Faiffer. How are

0:22:52.709 --> 0:22:59.589
<v Speaker 1>you doing twice your age? Find a resolution? Didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>kiss who? You see? Check it off? Yeah? Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention is in it, which just says everything

0:23:05.589 --> 0:23:09.269
<v Speaker 1>about the cast, share the poster. You know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big movie when oh, yeah it is, doesn't look okay? Yeah, yeah,

0:23:12.749 --> 0:23:14.429
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of people that are vaguely famous

0:23:14.429 --> 0:23:16.429
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know the name. Yeah, yep, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>saw this same Okay, yeah, I forgot yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>right right off the lights. We're gonna lose our night.

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<v Speaker 1>What dearly to me? To me a feeling? Okay. The

0:23:31.349 --> 0:23:36.229
<v Speaker 1>thing about zac Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he

0:23:36.349 --> 0:23:40.349
<v Speaker 1>commits a hundred and a million percent, and he goes

0:23:40.429 --> 0:23:42.469
<v Speaker 1>such a good dance. This is a routine and you

0:23:42.509 --> 0:23:45.069
<v Speaker 1>can actually imagine him in the club. You can imagine

0:23:45.109 --> 0:23:46.989
<v Speaker 1>him in the club. He dances like Travis Kelcey be

0:23:47.069 --> 0:23:50.469
<v Speaker 1>the hottest person. Yes, in fact, in Iron Clare, did

0:23:50.469 --> 0:23:52.229
<v Speaker 1>you notice that there's a scene where he dances at

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<v Speaker 1>his wedding and it's just fifteen seconds. I reckon in

0:24:01.149 --> 0:24:04.989
<v Speaker 1>his contract. Yeah, every he's on I'm a great dancer,

0:24:05.429 --> 0:24:09.029
<v Speaker 1>So in every contract for every movie, there has to

0:24:09.109 --> 0:24:13.189
<v Speaker 1>be a dance break. It stole the film for him,

0:24:13.269 --> 0:24:16.349
<v Speaker 1>so everyone leaves going terrible film. Great Dan, I really

0:24:16.469 --> 0:24:19.549
<v Speaker 1>liked that. Raise a glass. Yeah, that was fun. That

0:24:19.749 --> 0:24:21.389
<v Speaker 1>was fun at the end, and it goes through the

0:24:21.389 --> 0:24:24.429
<v Speaker 1>whole cast and it's like, and Michelle Phiffer is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the age of forty, so she's basically

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<v Speaker 1>got a walking stick. Then it's like, how lucky is

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<v Speaker 1>she that zac Efron is doing a jig in front

0:24:31.949 --> 0:24:35.029
<v Speaker 1>of her and so sexy. It was just a high

0:24:35.069 --> 0:24:36.789
<v Speaker 1>for him because he wasn't playing a four year old.

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<v Speaker 1>His voice isn't dubbed, he wasn't dropping a condoc making

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<v Speaker 1>the worst serial killer of all time arousing zac Efron

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<v Speaker 1>is hot, beautiful, sexy and as aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy

0:24:49.109 --> 0:24:52.429
<v Speaker 1>was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped, and murdered

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of young women and girls in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>He confessed to thirty murders, but the true number is

0:24:58.389 --> 0:25:02.669
<v Speaker 1>not known, and in twenty nineteen, director Joe Berlinger, who

0:25:02.709 --> 0:25:06.949
<v Speaker 1>is fascinated by Bundy, released a film called Extremely Wicked,

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<v Speaker 1>Shockingly Evil and Vile, starring Zac Efron as a sea killer.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me over a decade to look at this

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<v Speaker 1>phoow what happened to her head? She was still positive,

0:25:20.429 --> 0:25:25.389
<v Speaker 1>in the words to animals, could have conceivably done something

0:25:25.469 --> 0:25:29.149
<v Speaker 1>like animals, don't do that. I'm not a bad guy.

0:25:29.589 --> 0:25:33.589
<v Speaker 1>Seen it, seen it. Efron was also a producer. Talk

0:25:33.629 --> 0:25:35.549
<v Speaker 1>to me about it because I haven't seen it. Actually,

0:25:35.589 --> 0:25:38.589
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen it. No, you've actually seen it every

0:25:39.109 --> 0:25:43.749
<v Speaker 1>every day. No, it's good. Well, there was a lot

0:25:43.789 --> 0:25:46.749
<v Speaker 1>of criticism. Do you recall the criticism at the time. No,

0:25:46.989 --> 0:25:49.269
<v Speaker 1>that was everywhere. I remember everywhere. Wrote an opinion piece

0:25:49.349 --> 0:25:51.709
<v Speaker 1>and it was summed up by the Washington Post, who

0:25:51.789 --> 0:25:55.349
<v Speaker 1>said the film failed to distance itself from the glorification

0:25:55.429 --> 0:25:59.149
<v Speaker 1>of Bundy. The point was, according to critics, that Bundy

0:25:59.229 --> 0:26:01.589
<v Speaker 1>was hot, so no one could believe he would be

0:26:01.709 --> 0:26:05.389
<v Speaker 1>capable of such a barrn crime. But like, yes, and

0:26:05.429 --> 0:26:07.109
<v Speaker 1>that was the vibe of the film, But that was

0:26:07.149 --> 0:26:09.789
<v Speaker 1>also the vibe of Ted Bundy in real life. Yes,

0:26:09.829 --> 0:26:13.309
<v Speaker 1>But their point was that the film was therefore unable

0:26:13.429 --> 0:26:16.389
<v Speaker 1>to do justice to the sheer volume of horror, and

0:26:16.429 --> 0:26:18.269
<v Speaker 1>that the fact he was hot in ordinary and blah

0:26:18.269 --> 0:26:20.509
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. It was like the dominant narrative at the time.

0:26:20.989 --> 0:26:23.309
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was broadcast and all these women

0:26:23.309 --> 0:26:25.469
<v Speaker 1>were looking at it, going, look, he's gorgeous, blah blah blah.

0:26:25.509 --> 0:26:28.669
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're telling the same story we've already heard.

0:26:29.349 --> 0:26:33.429
<v Speaker 1>Rather than doing any justice to any of his victims,

0:26:33.589 --> 0:26:35.389
<v Speaker 1>I know what they mean, we moved past him. Yeah.

0:26:35.429 --> 0:26:38.669
<v Speaker 1>Efron's performance was criticized because he didn't possess the malice

0:26:38.749 --> 0:26:42.349
<v Speaker 1>required and it sort of just perpetuated the stereotypes that

0:26:42.349 --> 0:26:44.749
<v Speaker 1>the press did during Yeah, like he got the hot

0:26:44.789 --> 0:26:49.029
<v Speaker 1>part right. Yeah. But actually, even when I think about it,

0:26:49.709 --> 0:26:52.749
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if they showed the violence and

0:26:52.829 --> 0:26:54.789
<v Speaker 1>the horror. No, I don't think they did. No, it

0:26:54.829 --> 0:26:56.349
<v Speaker 1>was more like he's a normal guy who lives with

0:26:56.389 --> 0:26:59.309
<v Speaker 1>his wife. I think part Yeah, if you had a

0:26:59.349 --> 0:27:01.509
<v Speaker 1>relative that was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be furious.

0:27:01.509 --> 0:27:03.909
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, Yeah, it was very like he's a

0:27:03.949 --> 0:27:06.749
<v Speaker 1>new heart throat film. By the way, beat dubs it's

0:27:06.789 --> 0:27:11.829
<v Speaker 1>Ted Bundy. Yeah, read this tweet. It's a picture of

0:27:12.029 --> 0:27:14.309
<v Speaker 1>Zac Efron. Look I actually didn't think he was at

0:27:14.309 --> 0:27:17.629
<v Speaker 1>his hottest in this he was playing Ted Bundy. No, no,

0:27:17.669 --> 0:27:19.869
<v Speaker 1>but it just wasn't really his style. Like his hair

0:27:20.029 --> 0:27:23.069
<v Speaker 1>was like curled and he had bow ties and stuff.

0:27:23.229 --> 0:27:25.269
<v Speaker 1>It's a tweet that says, Hi, I'm Ted Bundy and

0:27:25.309 --> 0:27:28.229
<v Speaker 1>you're watching disney Town. It's a confusing pivot. It's a

0:27:28.229 --> 0:27:32.589
<v Speaker 1>confusing pivot. This very much is what the vibe was.

0:27:32.709 --> 0:27:35.549
<v Speaker 1>Read that tweet, I feel so bad for the families

0:27:35.549 --> 0:27:37.269
<v Speaker 1>of the victims that have to sit there and see

0:27:37.269 --> 0:27:41.229
<v Speaker 1>their terrors revived as a witty, romantic thriller. Yeah, and

0:27:41.269 --> 0:27:44.469
<v Speaker 1>then read this tweet down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes

0:27:44.669 --> 0:27:48.069
<v Speaker 1>murders and estimated one hundred sex workers and child You're

0:27:48.349 --> 0:27:50.469
<v Speaker 1>but we need to see his charismatic side. Oh my god.

0:27:50.469 --> 0:27:53.549
<v Speaker 1>Plus he was so hot. Yeah, okay that And look

0:27:54.109 --> 0:27:57.429
<v Speaker 1>I looked at images of Zac Efron next to Ted Bundy,

0:27:58.149 --> 0:28:00.309
<v Speaker 1>and I know it isn't the point of the podcast.

0:28:00.589 --> 0:28:04.509
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance.

0:28:05.109 --> 0:28:08.789
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but then again, that happens with like generations,

0:28:09.069 --> 0:28:11.149
<v Speaker 1>I know, But I just I think we've really over

0:28:11.189 --> 0:28:14.269
<v Speaker 1>egged how hot Ted Bundy was I've often thought that. Anyway,

0:28:14.349 --> 0:28:16.629
<v Speaker 1>I sort of agree with you that Twitter missed the

0:28:16.669 --> 0:28:19.069
<v Speaker 1>point a little bit. Like the film was obviously meant

0:28:19.109 --> 0:28:21.909
<v Speaker 1>to contrast the charisma and the ordinariness with what the

0:28:21.989 --> 0:28:25.869
<v Speaker 1>guy did. And zac Efron was a producer, so he

0:28:25.949 --> 0:28:28.829
<v Speaker 1>knew what he was trying to do. And obviously it

0:28:28.949 --> 0:28:31.789
<v Speaker 1>was a career pivot he was stepping out of like

0:28:32.269 --> 0:28:36.189
<v Speaker 1>you know, he'd done New Year's Eve, Yeah, and he

0:28:36.309 --> 0:28:38.589
<v Speaker 1>needed to go and he done Game. I'm going to

0:28:38.629 --> 0:28:42.909
<v Speaker 1>be a serious actor. Yeah, who should I play? Ted Bundy? Yeah,

0:28:42.949 --> 0:28:44.509
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to play ten and so but we've kind

0:28:44.549 --> 0:28:47.829
<v Speaker 1>of the problem is that he was too sexy. Yeah,

0:28:47.869 --> 0:28:50.869
<v Speaker 1>which is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry, speaking of him

0:28:50.869 --> 0:28:53.989
<v Speaker 1>being a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dhan Clare, He's

0:28:53.989 --> 0:28:56.549
<v Speaker 1>gonna win award. Oh, he's so brilliant. He's just so excellent,

0:28:56.789 --> 0:28:59.709
<v Speaker 1>a great actor. He'll be Eve and I go, you

0:28:59.709 --> 0:29:02.069
<v Speaker 1>were great then, Yeah, but mark my words, he'll be

0:29:02.109 --> 0:29:04.189
<v Speaker 1>winning an Academy Award in the next few years. Not

0:29:04.229 --> 0:29:16.429
<v Speaker 1>for A Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a movie

0:29:16.429 --> 0:29:18.669
<v Speaker 1>out on Netflix called A Family Affair. Because I can't

0:29:18.669 --> 0:29:23.029
<v Speaker 1>play a blind alcoholic. It goes against my iconography. My

0:29:23.109 --> 0:29:25.709
<v Speaker 1>eyes are too pretty to not be on camera. I

0:29:25.909 --> 0:29:31.029
<v Speaker 1>told you we'd see your eyes starring Nicole Kidman, Joey King, Claire.

0:29:31.189 --> 0:29:33.469
<v Speaker 1>Can you please remind the Council courtroom who Joey King

0:29:33.549 --> 0:29:41.309
<v Speaker 1>is the ex girlfriend of JACOBALORDI, Oh, yes, you're gonna

0:29:41.309 --> 0:29:45.869
<v Speaker 1>say Gypsy Ros, Gypsy rows. Yeah, but from the kissing

0:29:45.909 --> 0:29:48.389
<v Speaker 1>booth la la lah, they have history. We need to

0:29:48.429 --> 0:29:50.909
<v Speaker 1>do a big mind map of all the connections in

0:29:50.949 --> 0:29:55.789
<v Speaker 1>between them. And of course I watched five minutes and

0:29:55.869 --> 0:29:57.989
<v Speaker 1>Luca made us turn it off. But I have saved

0:29:58.029 --> 0:30:00.549
<v Speaker 1>my place and shall be returning in Brad. Okay. That

0:30:00.669 --> 0:30:03.029
<v Speaker 1>often happens with your partner, doesn't it. You go, yeah, yeah,

0:30:03.069 --> 0:30:05.069
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. Yeah, we won't and then I'm like you

0:30:05.149 --> 0:30:07.349
<v Speaker 1>go on out. This week, I've got a movie to watch.

0:30:08.269 --> 0:30:10.669
<v Speaker 1>The headline about this film which which has a thirty

0:30:10.709 --> 0:30:12.829
<v Speaker 1>nine percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want

0:30:12.829 --> 0:30:15.869
<v Speaker 1>to say more. Is zach Evron's face right, folks. Zach

0:30:15.989 --> 0:30:19.789
<v Speaker 1>Efron's jaw is making headlines again. It's different. People on

0:30:19.789 --> 0:30:22.709
<v Speaker 1>the internet say his face shape has changed considerably. You

0:30:22.749 --> 0:30:24.869
<v Speaker 1>can see in The Iron Claw as well, his jaw

0:30:24.989 --> 0:30:27.549
<v Speaker 1>is more square and his lips appear fuller, and everyone's

0:30:27.629 --> 0:30:31.429
<v Speaker 1>yelling you messed up your face and sharing mean comparisons

0:30:31.989 --> 0:30:34.829
<v Speaker 1>and saying that they feel personally victimized. And it's like,

0:30:35.309 --> 0:30:38.869
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe you need to go for a walk, okay,

0:30:39.149 --> 0:30:41.789
<v Speaker 1>Dutch some grass touch some is still hot though it's

0:30:41.829 --> 0:30:44.589
<v Speaker 1>still hot in iron Claw. I just think he's okay, yeah, yeah.

0:30:44.669 --> 0:30:49.349
<v Speaker 1>Efron has actually addressed his changing face. He says that

0:30:49.389 --> 0:30:52.229
<v Speaker 1>back in twenty thirteen, he was running through his house

0:30:52.269 --> 0:30:55.509
<v Speaker 1>in socks and he tripped and fell on his fountain

0:30:55.909 --> 0:30:58.069
<v Speaker 1>because there was a puddle of water. This is a

0:30:58.109 --> 0:31:00.949
<v Speaker 1>court room, so we need to properly prosecute this story.

0:31:02.229 --> 0:31:05.989
<v Speaker 1>I started by googling granite fountain, okay, because I needed

0:31:05.989 --> 0:31:08.349
<v Speaker 1>a visual. This is what came up on Google watches.

0:31:08.509 --> 0:31:10.989
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is an outdoor fountain, but that's what

0:31:10.989 --> 0:31:13.109
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask. Was was talking about an indoors

0:31:13.109 --> 0:31:15.629
<v Speaker 1>It's an indoor fountain, and it's indoors at his home. Yes,

0:31:15.709 --> 0:31:17.509
<v Speaker 1>why does he have an indoor found? He has addressed

0:31:17.509 --> 0:31:18.709
<v Speaker 1>that and he said it's pretty cool I have an

0:31:18.749 --> 0:31:21.109
<v Speaker 1>indoor found. So he knows that's not the knot, but

0:31:21.189 --> 0:31:23.149
<v Speaker 1>he does have an indoor fountain. But then what I

0:31:23.189 --> 0:31:25.349
<v Speaker 1>did is I tried to find an image of the

0:31:25.349 --> 0:31:28.629
<v Speaker 1>granite fountain inside his house, and I could find his

0:31:28.709 --> 0:31:31.029
<v Speaker 1>house like as in the one that he'd bought or whatever.

0:31:31.069 --> 0:31:32.989
<v Speaker 1>But I think he might have installed the granite fountain

0:31:33.029 --> 0:31:35.509
<v Speaker 1>after he purchased it because I couldn't see an image. Okay,

0:31:35.829 --> 0:31:40.589
<v Speaker 1>Now I've got some comments about the fall, specifically the

0:31:40.629 --> 0:31:44.389
<v Speaker 1>socks and the water. I have slipt in my house

0:31:44.909 --> 0:31:51.509
<v Speaker 1>wearing socks on floorboards, on tiles, lots of situations. You know,

0:31:51.669 --> 0:31:54.629
<v Speaker 1>a bit of water when you get out of the shower, slip, slip,

0:31:55.149 --> 0:32:04.429
<v Speaker 1>But when you're wearing socks when you step in wet Okay, yes, yes, okay.

0:32:04.469 --> 0:32:09.909
<v Speaker 1>There are two different ways to slip. Yes, one is socks,

0:32:10.709 --> 0:32:16.429
<v Speaker 1>dry floor. The other is no socks, wet floor. That

0:32:16.909 --> 0:32:19.629
<v Speaker 1>they are the two ways if it slip on a

0:32:19.629 --> 0:32:24.429
<v Speaker 1>granite fountain. Yeah. And what I'm confused about is if

0:32:24.509 --> 0:32:29.349
<v Speaker 1>you personally have ever slipped on water and socks. Okay,

0:32:29.429 --> 0:32:32.269
<v Speaker 1>what I will say, No, I haven't, but this is

0:32:32.309 --> 0:32:34.149
<v Speaker 1>what I will say. And we've talked about this before.

0:32:34.509 --> 0:32:37.469
<v Speaker 1>When you get an injury, you somehow I hit my

0:32:37.469 --> 0:32:40.149
<v Speaker 1>head the other day like a little while ago, full

0:32:40.429 --> 0:32:43.229
<v Speaker 1>banged my head, huge egg on my head, full bruise.

0:32:43.389 --> 0:32:46.549
<v Speaker 1>I had to call the paramedics whenever you have an

0:32:46.589 --> 0:32:49.109
<v Speaker 1>injury as an adult, and I have to explain how

0:32:49.189 --> 0:32:52.029
<v Speaker 1>it happened. It sounds weird, sounds like a lie. There's

0:32:52.069 --> 0:32:55.949
<v Speaker 1>never a time when what you were doing leading up

0:32:55.989 --> 0:32:59.069
<v Speaker 1>to that to make that makes sense. So me and

0:32:59.469 --> 0:33:03.469
<v Speaker 1>my partner were walking home from dinner. It was five pm. Yeah,

0:33:03.829 --> 0:33:06.629
<v Speaker 1>So the paramedics are like, sorry, you're walking at dinner

0:33:06.629 --> 0:33:09.869
<v Speaker 1>at five pm. Sounds like a lie. We have a baby, right,

0:33:09.949 --> 0:33:13.349
<v Speaker 1>so things are weird. So you had dinner a four yeah, yep.

0:33:13.389 --> 0:33:16.989
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, why were you walking down this street?

0:33:17.069 --> 0:33:18.829
<v Speaker 1>It's not a logical way to walk to our house.

0:33:19.029 --> 0:33:21.309
<v Speaker 1>And then I think I had maybe liberty concussion. I

0:33:21.309 --> 0:33:23.869
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, we were going to Messina all right

0:33:24.229 --> 0:33:27.309
<v Speaker 1>after our four thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just

0:33:27.349 --> 0:33:30.189
<v Speaker 1>a lot of moving parts like, yeah, why were you

0:33:30.949 --> 0:33:33.029
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it

0:33:33.069 --> 0:33:37.709
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you've fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes,

0:33:38.029 --> 0:33:40.949
<v Speaker 1>And it's like were you drinking? And it's like it

0:33:40.949 --> 0:33:44.589
<v Speaker 1>does say I should have been drinking. Fair, fair, fair question,

0:33:45.109 --> 0:33:48.749
<v Speaker 1>and no, No, I am just very odd and every

0:33:48.789 --> 0:33:50.549
<v Speaker 1>time I've injured myself I've thought that. So in zac

0:33:50.629 --> 0:33:53.789
<v Speaker 1>Efron's defense, the weirder the story, the more I actually

0:33:53.789 --> 0:33:56.349
<v Speaker 1>believe it. Yeah, but I feel like I'm with him

0:33:56.389 --> 0:33:59.749
<v Speaker 1>on falling on the granite fountain. Yeah, I just wonder if,

0:33:59.829 --> 0:34:03.269
<v Speaker 1>in order to make it believable, he's gone slippery and

0:34:03.309 --> 0:34:05.909
<v Speaker 1>then he's gone. I'm gonna add some slippery details. But

0:34:05.949 --> 0:34:09.029
<v Speaker 1>the two slippery details, it's like two positives equal and negative.

0:34:09.229 --> 0:34:12.029
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they're was water. Yeah, he doesn't realize

0:34:12.109 --> 0:34:14.989
<v Speaker 1>that's not what he slipped on. What did he slip on?

0:34:15.309 --> 0:34:19.269
<v Speaker 1>Just the normal floor? Okay? Or he actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah,

0:34:19.349 --> 0:34:22.669
<v Speaker 1>he's just got confused. Yeah. Well, he was struck unconscious

0:34:22.669 --> 0:34:24.789
<v Speaker 1>and when he woke up, his chin was hanging from

0:34:24.829 --> 0:34:28.429
<v Speaker 1>his face, and I googled whether they hitting your chin

0:34:28.469 --> 0:34:30.869
<v Speaker 1>can make you unconscious because I also want more. Does

0:34:30.909 --> 0:34:35.109
<v Speaker 1>that check out? No, definitely it does. Skull bones going up. Yeah,

0:34:35.229 --> 0:34:37.629
<v Speaker 1>he had to have his mouth wide shut and he

0:34:37.709 --> 0:34:40.789
<v Speaker 1>needed lots of stitches as a result of breaking his jaw.

0:34:41.189 --> 0:34:45.229
<v Speaker 1>Zach said that his other facial muscles, namely the master tears,

0:34:45.629 --> 0:34:51.109
<v Speaker 1>which are used for chewing massad mass I'm sorry, what

0:34:51.189 --> 0:34:54.509
<v Speaker 1>was You know? Why? I know it because people talk

0:34:54.549 --> 0:34:58.389
<v Speaker 1>about getting massive botox. Ah, that's the only context is

0:34:58.389 --> 0:35:03.149
<v Speaker 1>that I've seen TikTok videos of people talking about massa grinding.

0:35:03.229 --> 0:35:05.189
<v Speaker 1>It's the muscles that are used for chewing. And the

0:35:05.229 --> 0:35:07.829
<v Speaker 1>reason that people want botox for their grinding is because

0:35:07.829 --> 0:35:11.189
<v Speaker 1>it will make your jaw look bigger. So if you

0:35:11.229 --> 0:35:13.989
<v Speaker 1>grind or if you like overuse those muscles, it can

0:35:14.109 --> 0:35:18.949
<v Speaker 1>change the shape of your jaw. And basically what happened

0:35:19.029 --> 0:35:21.629
<v Speaker 1>was because it was wired shut and he was like

0:35:21.709 --> 0:35:24.869
<v Speaker 1>grinding like he had his teeth shut. The idea is

0:35:24.909 --> 0:35:28.069
<v Speaker 1>that it had kind of overcompensated and his massaters grew

0:35:28.109 --> 0:35:29.869
<v Speaker 1>to be really really big, and he was meant to

0:35:29.869 --> 0:35:31.709
<v Speaker 1>be doing physio, but then he had another project he

0:35:31.709 --> 0:35:33.309
<v Speaker 1>had to go and work on, and he didn't do

0:35:33.349 --> 0:35:36.549
<v Speaker 1>the physioproperly, and apparently it grew and grew. I googled

0:35:36.549 --> 0:35:39.829
<v Speaker 1>it because I was like, well, can that happen? And yeah,

0:35:39.989 --> 0:35:42.869
<v Speaker 1>it can. So if this is a lie, like a

0:35:42.909 --> 0:35:47.589
<v Speaker 1>PR team has got a doctor involved and asked a

0:35:47.629 --> 0:35:49.709
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions, seems a bit funny to be defending him,

0:35:49.709 --> 0:35:53.789
<v Speaker 1>because women's appearance is always torn apart, and how often

0:35:53.789 --> 0:35:56.269
<v Speaker 1>do we talk about women ruining their faces with plastic

0:35:56.309 --> 0:35:59.269
<v Speaker 1>surgery or whatever. But I do think it is never

0:35:59.349 --> 0:36:01.309
<v Speaker 1>appropriate to say that, and it is sad because it

0:36:01.349 --> 0:36:05.429
<v Speaker 1>was an injury in a family affair. Zac Efron. Actually

0:36:05.709 --> 0:36:09.469
<v Speaker 1>he references his jaw, but I'll tell you there's another story.

0:36:10.189 --> 0:36:12.069
<v Speaker 1>He's saying he fell over on set. No mention of

0:36:12.109 --> 0:36:19.629
<v Speaker 1>a granite film. I did, though, really, where that's right here?

0:36:20.429 --> 0:36:24.949
<v Speaker 1>I fell on set? Oh yeah, I see it. It's

0:36:24.949 --> 0:36:29.989
<v Speaker 1>a Brookings. Okay, that's because it's in the script. I

0:36:30.109 --> 0:36:33.029
<v Speaker 1>just think that if we're gonna go with our sockshoe

0:36:33.069 --> 0:36:37.389
<v Speaker 1>wet story, provide more details through feeling exactly exactly if

0:36:37.389 --> 0:36:39.349
<v Speaker 1>we're going to provide a detail through film. It felt

0:36:39.389 --> 0:36:40.989
<v Speaker 1>like he had to acknowledge it because people are going

0:36:41.029 --> 0:36:42.989
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the face. And he was like, no,

0:36:43.069 --> 0:36:47.149
<v Speaker 1>I've had an accident. I lost my chin on No. No,

0:36:47.469 --> 0:36:49.789
<v Speaker 1>but he talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he

0:36:49.909 --> 0:36:52.229
<v Speaker 1>nearly died. It was very very serious. It's very traumatic

0:36:52.229 --> 0:36:55.269
<v Speaker 1>for him. We shouldn't be laughing. Stop, Claire. It is

0:36:55.309 --> 0:37:04.269
<v Speaker 1>time for charges and sentences on the socks. We need

0:37:04.309 --> 0:37:06.429
<v Speaker 1>to know how wet, because there's a point at which

0:37:06.469 --> 0:37:08.909
<v Speaker 1>obviously socks are made of fabric, and we know that

0:37:08.949 --> 0:37:13.349
<v Speaker 1>the fabric can cause resistance, which helps us to not

0:37:13.509 --> 0:37:18.669
<v Speaker 1>fall in wet. But were they so wet? Just become foot?

0:37:18.789 --> 0:37:22.189
<v Speaker 1>You've taken a few steps and your sock has soaked through,

0:37:22.229 --> 0:37:24.509
<v Speaker 1>so that your sock is no longer sock in terms

0:37:24.549 --> 0:37:28.349
<v Speaker 1>of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're just slipping around. Yeah,

0:37:28.389 --> 0:37:30.349
<v Speaker 1>which I can see how you would slip. I have

0:37:30.389 --> 0:37:33.269
<v Speaker 1>another question in regards to this, like we're in a

0:37:33.269 --> 0:37:36.669
<v Speaker 1>court room, you're zac Efron, and I'm just frusting questions.

0:37:36.709 --> 0:37:40.669
<v Speaker 1>It's just my job. Why the wet? Why the wet? Yes,

0:37:40.829 --> 0:37:43.069
<v Speaker 1>so you have a granite fountain. Love that fear it

0:37:43.149 --> 0:37:46.229
<v Speaker 1>was from the fountain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's her fountain leaking.

0:37:46.989 --> 0:37:51.629
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's leaking. No, it wasn't leaking. The problem with

0:37:51.709 --> 0:37:55.629
<v Speaker 1>having a fountain inside is that often water does splash

0:37:55.909 --> 0:37:58.709
<v Speaker 1>from the fountain into the outside. Zach Efron, do you

0:37:58.789 --> 0:38:01.629
<v Speaker 1>have a help? Yeah? They were sick that day. I

0:38:01.789 --> 0:38:04.309
<v Speaker 1>just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, I'm not

0:38:04.789 --> 0:38:07.349
<v Speaker 1>mupping up my own floor. I feel as though there's

0:38:07.349 --> 0:38:09.269
<v Speaker 1>a guy. Well, I think the surprise you pay for

0:38:09.309 --> 0:38:12.429
<v Speaker 1>having a fountain in doors, it's why I've not done it,

0:38:14.029 --> 0:38:17.229
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is another feature

0:38:17.269 --> 0:38:21.309
<v Speaker 1>of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions where we

0:38:21.349 --> 0:38:24.509
<v Speaker 1>give a few too many details. Right, he didn't trip

0:38:24.509 --> 0:38:27.909
<v Speaker 1>over a fountain. He tripped over granite fountain. It wasn't

0:38:28.029 --> 0:38:32.389
<v Speaker 1>just any socks. It was wet. That's also those details,

0:38:32.629 --> 0:38:35.149
<v Speaker 1>the details that you think is that relevant, also a

0:38:35.149 --> 0:38:40.269
<v Speaker 1>feature of the truth. That's interesting, interesting, but a strange.

0:38:40.749 --> 0:38:43.829
<v Speaker 1>It's like when I'm lying about why I'm sick from whack,

0:38:45.029 --> 0:38:48.189
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a photo of my vomit, right, Like, I'm

0:38:48.429 --> 0:38:52.189
<v Speaker 1>really over providing on evidence. And I just wonder if

0:38:52.229 --> 0:38:55.309
<v Speaker 1>he had truly fallen, would he say I sipped at

0:38:55.309 --> 0:38:58.069
<v Speaker 1>home it was an injury. I'd like a picture of

0:38:58.109 --> 0:38:59.909
<v Speaker 1>the granite fountain, okay, and I'd like to know where

0:38:59.909 --> 0:39:01.509
<v Speaker 1>it happened. I don't know. I feel like if you

0:39:01.509 --> 0:39:03.389
<v Speaker 1>were chatting to a friend about how you injured yourself,

0:39:03.429 --> 0:39:07.109
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you do provide just a few details. Yeah, okay,

0:39:07.269 --> 0:39:10.109
<v Speaker 1>so you believe me? Yeah, I think I believe him to.

0:39:10.229 --> 0:39:12.549
<v Speaker 1>And what's that saying truth is stranger than fiction. Oh

0:39:12.629 --> 0:39:16.509
<v Speaker 1>wow that in the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, weird of

0:39:16.589 --> 0:39:19.549
<v Speaker 1>the story, the more true. I'm going to go first

0:39:19.589 --> 0:39:21.389
<v Speaker 1>in the charge. I need to talk about New Year's Eve.

0:39:22.229 --> 0:39:25.429
<v Speaker 1>I saw that because he was in it, and that

0:39:25.589 --> 0:39:29.029
<v Speaker 1>was one hour and fifty three minutes of my life

0:39:29.069 --> 0:39:32.349
<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting back. And storylines that don't involve him

0:39:32.549 --> 0:39:35.829
<v Speaker 1>so many Yes, it's like I'm just over here. What

0:39:35.909 --> 0:39:38.509
<v Speaker 1>was his watching Bloody Robert de Niro? If ione to

0:39:38.509 --> 0:39:44.309
<v Speaker 1>watching Robert de Niro film, I'd watch literally any other one. Yeah,

0:39:44.589 --> 0:39:46.429
<v Speaker 1>I need to watch him in New Year's Eve? What

0:39:46.989 --> 0:39:49.229
<v Speaker 1>is zac Efron's storyline in that? I think he's pursuing

0:39:49.229 --> 0:39:51.869
<v Speaker 1>Michelle Pfeiffer older woman, and she's like, I'm older than you.

0:39:52.549 --> 0:39:56.949
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of hot. It took too long to get

0:39:56.949 --> 0:40:00.109
<v Speaker 1>to the dancing scene as established, And there's actually another

0:40:00.629 --> 0:40:03.829
<v Speaker 1>crime which breaks the rules of court because you shouldn't

0:40:03.829 --> 0:40:07.069
<v Speaker 1>bring up new evidence in the ruling. Or maybe that's debating,

0:40:07.909 --> 0:40:10.709
<v Speaker 1>can't be clear. Yeah, remember a few years ago he

0:40:10.749 --> 0:40:13.149
<v Speaker 1>came to Australia and he started dating a girl in

0:40:13.229 --> 0:40:16.389
<v Speaker 1>Byron Bay. Yeah, I could draw a photo of her

0:40:16.709 --> 0:40:21.749
<v Speaker 1>from memory. That pissed me off, okay, because it was like, well,

0:40:22.189 --> 0:40:27.029
<v Speaker 1>now maybe you are within reach, Like you're literally just

0:40:27.069 --> 0:40:30.069
<v Speaker 1>over the plane trip, cheeky ten hour drive from where

0:40:30.109 --> 0:40:33.109
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting right now to zac Efron, and like I

0:40:33.149 --> 0:40:35.349
<v Speaker 1>know the cafe where she was working that she met him,

0:40:35.389 --> 0:40:36.909
<v Speaker 1>and it was like I could have been at that cafe.

0:40:37.229 --> 0:40:40.709
<v Speaker 1>I could have worked there. Yeah, so we're dating Australians now, Yeah,

0:40:40.909 --> 0:40:43.229
<v Speaker 1>could have let me know and then within ten years

0:40:43.229 --> 0:40:46.669
<v Speaker 1>of my age. And then I thought, so, if we

0:40:46.669 --> 0:40:50.429
<v Speaker 1>were open to dating everyday goals, yeah, how about when

0:40:50.469 --> 0:40:54.349
<v Speaker 1>I met you? Yeah? And why didn't we flag that

0:40:54.989 --> 0:40:57.149
<v Speaker 1>m so that a few of us could get a shot? Good?

0:40:57.309 --> 0:40:59.829
<v Speaker 1>Because it nearly ruined my relationship with my husband, the

0:40:59.829 --> 0:41:03.869
<v Speaker 1>father of my child. It did, Yeah, because I went,

0:41:04.229 --> 0:41:06.629
<v Speaker 1>all right, there's a chance that the man from high school,

0:41:06.709 --> 0:41:09.629
<v Speaker 1>musical man in bad neighbors, who I think is a

0:41:09.669 --> 0:41:12.229
<v Speaker 1>real laugh and does a sexy dance in Newar's Eve,

0:41:13.069 --> 0:41:15.309
<v Speaker 1>he's just over there. It's just picking up girls, just

0:41:15.309 --> 0:41:17.709
<v Speaker 1>looking for love. He could dance just for me, and

0:41:17.749 --> 0:41:24.029
<v Speaker 1>he likes the Australian accent. Apparently that relationship did end.

0:41:23.709 --> 0:41:29.629
<v Speaker 1>It didn't end because she wasn't right, because you're right. Okay, yes,

0:41:29.709 --> 0:41:33.549
<v Speaker 1>but he was getting warmer. My sentence is I'll forgive

0:41:33.589 --> 0:41:36.189
<v Speaker 1>any film if he dances at the end. And that's

0:41:36.189 --> 0:41:38.149
<v Speaker 1>what I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me

0:41:38.229 --> 0:41:41.309
<v Speaker 1>to Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little there was

0:41:41.309 --> 0:41:46.029
<v Speaker 1>a film missing a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate,

0:41:46.309 --> 0:41:51.269
<v Speaker 1>the film's not for you, Zach said, Well said, so

0:41:51.309 --> 0:41:54.429
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's a good test, litmus test. Ted Bundy isn't

0:41:54.429 --> 0:41:57.349
<v Speaker 1>playing to your strengths. Look, I don't condone anything Ted

0:41:57.349 --> 0:42:00.469
<v Speaker 1>Bundy did bad guy. I'm on the record of saying that.

0:42:00.549 --> 0:42:03.349
<v Speaker 1>But Zac Efron dancing, even as Ted Bundy ould have

0:42:03.349 --> 0:42:05.349
<v Speaker 1>watched it, Okay, and I wouldn't mind. Just as the

0:42:05.389 --> 0:42:08.909
<v Speaker 1>credits roll. It made sense in the wrestling movie for

0:42:08.989 --> 0:42:10.829
<v Speaker 1>him to do a dance. It could make sense for

0:42:10.829 --> 0:42:13.909
<v Speaker 1>Ted Bundy to do a little hip hop. Okay, do

0:42:13.949 --> 0:42:17.789
<v Speaker 1>a breakdance. That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's your charge?

0:42:17.949 --> 0:42:22.749
<v Speaker 1>My charge is doing things that aren't playing to his

0:42:22.789 --> 0:42:26.429
<v Speaker 1>strengths slash talents. Okay, so when we take on a roll,

0:42:26.669 --> 0:42:31.189
<v Speaker 1>yeah that isn't you're a triple threat mate, singing, dancing, acting, yeah, yeah,

0:42:31.229 --> 0:42:34.429
<v Speaker 1>an your faith and your face for your quadruple threat. Yeah,

0:42:34.989 --> 0:42:39.669
<v Speaker 1>and so I want things that really play to that. So,

0:42:39.789 --> 0:42:42.669
<v Speaker 1>for example, wrestling movie, I exclusively refer to it as

0:42:42.709 --> 0:42:44.509
<v Speaker 1>wrestling movie. Yeah. I don't know the name. It's called

0:42:44.509 --> 0:42:47.269
<v Speaker 1>the Iron Claw. It was so good. Same of the

0:42:47.309 --> 0:42:49.109
<v Speaker 1>Greatest Showman. I think that that was some of zach

0:42:49.149 --> 0:42:54.309
<v Speaker 1>Efronidy's best because he could triple threat Yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zendaat,

0:42:54.309 --> 0:42:56.749
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. There wasn't enough singing dancing in ted Bundy.

0:42:57.309 --> 0:42:59.509
<v Speaker 1>And another way that he's not playing to his strengths.

0:42:59.549 --> 0:43:02.789
<v Speaker 1>It's when all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man

0:43:02.869 --> 0:43:07.029
<v Speaker 1>encounter boys stop that. No, that's not playing to your strengths. Well,

0:43:07.069 --> 0:43:09.229
<v Speaker 1>he had a moment he said, I've learnt from it.

0:43:09.349 --> 0:43:11.549
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's

0:43:11.549 --> 0:43:13.709
<v Speaker 1>off the drugs now so we can focus more on

0:43:14.429 --> 0:43:18.909
<v Speaker 1>his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs a

0:43:18.949 --> 0:43:22.349
<v Speaker 1>TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his people

0:43:22.389 --> 0:43:26.989
<v Speaker 1>haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate

0:43:27.349 --> 0:43:30.749
<v Speaker 1>and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a

0:43:30.829 --> 0:43:35.149
<v Speaker 1>jojo si wakama? No, because I get the ick. That

0:43:35.189 --> 0:43:38.069
<v Speaker 1>would be ikey Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But just

0:43:38.789 --> 0:43:42.789
<v Speaker 1>I want more dance, access to more dancing. I think

0:43:42.789 --> 0:43:44.389
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to move away from that is a sense

0:43:44.389 --> 0:43:47.389
<v Speaker 1>I get from the Iron Clare. Oh yeah, it'd be

0:43:47.429 --> 0:43:50.349
<v Speaker 1>taken seriously. Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and

0:43:50.389 --> 0:43:53.589
<v Speaker 1>I could do a dance together. Oh anyway, So I

0:43:53.629 --> 0:43:56.349
<v Speaker 1>need more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way

0:43:56.389 --> 0:43:58.829
<v Speaker 1>for me to get it. I love that. Thank you

0:43:58.869 --> 0:44:01.549
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us on this episode of Canceled.

0:44:01.589 --> 0:44:05.549
<v Speaker 1>The executive producer of Canceled is Telisibezazz, with audio editing

0:44:05.949 --> 0:44:09.269
<v Speaker 1>by Tom Lyon. We are gonna post on the pictures

0:44:09.509 --> 0:44:11.429
<v Speaker 1>Ted Bundy. He looks like a picture of a granite

0:44:11.429 --> 0:44:14.069
<v Speaker 1>fountain that now exists in my phone and that video

0:44:14.389 --> 0:44:17.269
<v Speaker 1>of him duncing at the end of m Onto. The

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<v Speaker 1>at mommeya dot com dot au. We will be back

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Bye bye before we go. If you are

0:44:33.269 --> 0:44:35.709
<v Speaker 1>looking for something else to listen to, then I have

0:44:36.109 --> 0:44:40.949
<v Speaker 1>fantastic news because someone I know, Claire Spoiler it's you

0:44:41.709 --> 0:44:46.109
<v Speaker 1>just did a whole season of a chart topping podcast

0:44:46.149 --> 0:44:48.949
<v Speaker 1>called but are You Happy? All the episodes are now

0:44:49.069 --> 0:44:51.269
<v Speaker 1>available and you can go and listen to them. Claire,

0:44:51.269 --> 0:44:53.109
<v Speaker 1>what are some of the highlights from the season you've

0:44:53.149 --> 0:44:55.509
<v Speaker 1>just done. It's weird that you're not taking the piss

0:44:55.509 --> 0:44:57.589
<v Speaker 1>out of me, So it's just an awkward dynamic right now.

0:44:57.709 --> 0:45:00.549
<v Speaker 1>But some of the people I've interviewed for this season

0:45:00.789 --> 0:45:07.069
<v Speaker 1>are media personality Laura Burt, musical theater star Rob Mills,

0:45:07.869 --> 0:45:13.189
<v Speaker 1>Olympic gold medalist around Tipness, comedian Josh Thomas. We've got

0:45:13.269 --> 0:45:16.469
<v Speaker 1>Brooke Blurton. We've got actress and Gowerie Rice, who was

0:45:16.509 --> 0:45:20.949
<v Speaker 1>in Mean Girls. And there are just so many fascinating

0:45:20.949 --> 0:45:25.589
<v Speaker 1>conversations on this season about what happens when you get

0:45:25.669 --> 0:45:30.069
<v Speaker 1>everything that you want and how it doesn't feel how

0:45:30.109 --> 0:45:34.189
<v Speaker 1>you would think it feels. We talk about people who

0:45:34.229 --> 0:45:38.029
<v Speaker 1>would trade what they have in terms of success for

0:45:38.149 --> 0:45:40.629
<v Speaker 1>something else that they feel is missing in their lives.

0:45:40.669 --> 0:45:45.509
<v Speaker 1>We talk about jealousy, regret, me mental health, mental health,

0:45:45.829 --> 0:45:48.469
<v Speaker 1>and it's a season that I think everyone will find

0:45:48.549 --> 0:45:52.429
<v Speaker 1>something that resonates with them. You haven't referenced the biggest

0:45:52.509 --> 0:45:54.509
<v Speaker 1>endorsement of this season, I said, chart topping. I think

0:45:54.509 --> 0:45:56.629
<v Speaker 1>Apple chose it as one of their best podcasts last year.

0:45:56.709 --> 0:45:59.909
<v Speaker 1>But that means nothing in comparison to the endorsement You've Got,

0:46:00.309 --> 0:46:03.149
<v Speaker 1>which was from one Ann Stevens, who did share the

0:46:03.189 --> 0:46:09.469
<v Speaker 1>Rob Mills episode, just with the two words he's gorgeous. Okay, okay,

0:46:10.109 --> 0:46:11.909
<v Speaker 1>she's got the huts for Rob Mills. Yeah she does,

0:46:11.949 --> 0:46:15.069
<v Speaker 1>which is like, I mean, I ambushed him and he

0:46:15.229 --> 0:46:18.109
<v Speaker 1>came in, and I think there was an ambush. Yes,

0:46:18.349 --> 0:46:21.589
<v Speaker 1>not appropriate. I yelled, you're my husband, yeah, which isn't

0:46:21.629 --> 0:46:25.069
<v Speaker 1>he's engaged, you shouldn't. Yeah. The last season, your Bloody

0:46:25.069 --> 0:46:27.509
<v Speaker 1>interviewed his fiance. So it's just all getting very awkward.

0:46:27.549 --> 0:46:30.189
<v Speaker 1>If you want to hear that awkwardness Claire blowing up

0:46:30.229 --> 0:46:33.229
<v Speaker 1>a future marriage, then listen to the later season of

0:46:33.269 --> 0:46:35.509
<v Speaker 1>But Are You Happy. There is a link in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Note