1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:15,754 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with Me podcast. Hi, yubies, 2 00:00:15,794 --> 00:00:18,674 Speaker 1: I'd be having a great Thursday over on Nothing to Wear. 3 00:00:18,794 --> 00:00:21,553 Speaker 1: There's a little segment called Bougie and Budget and it's 4 00:00:21,634 --> 00:00:24,154 Speaker 1: kind of like spendy Savie but for your wardrobe. So 5 00:00:24,274 --> 00:00:25,634 Speaker 1: have a listen and let us know. 6 00:00:25,594 --> 00:00:29,834 Speaker 2: What you think. Whoever said orange is a new pink 7 00:00:29,954 --> 00:00:31,514 Speaker 2: with seriously disturbed. 8 00:00:31,234 --> 00:00:33,634 Speaker 3: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 9 00:00:33,914 --> 00:00:34,833 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you. 10 00:00:34,914 --> 00:00:35,674 Speaker 3: Have to do it. 11 00:00:35,714 --> 00:00:36,953 Speaker 2: You live for fashion. 12 00:00:38,034 --> 00:00:40,394 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 13 00:00:40,473 --> 00:00:42,833 Speaker 4: solves sushion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 14 00:00:42,954 --> 00:00:44,033 Speaker 2: I'm Chelsea Hoy and. 15 00:00:44,034 --> 00:00:46,314 Speaker 4: Each week we talk about all things fashion to help 16 00:00:46,354 --> 00:00:47,994 Speaker 4: you figure out how to get more out of the 17 00:00:48,034 --> 00:00:50,513 Speaker 4: clothes you already own. This week, we're going to be 18 00:00:50,513 --> 00:00:54,074 Speaker 4: talking to Jessica Lucy, who is a Curve model content 19 00:00:54,114 --> 00:00:57,314 Speaker 4: creator and she also works for an Australian fashion label. 20 00:00:57,674 --> 00:01:00,074 Speaker 4: She's worked in and out of different creative industries throughout 21 00:01:00,074 --> 00:01:02,994 Speaker 4: her career and is a real fashion lobver. We're into 22 00:01:02,994 --> 00:01:05,314 Speaker 4: the warmer months, so today we're going to be unpacking 23 00:01:05,394 --> 00:01:09,554 Speaker 4: all things heat proof, from what fabrics and silhouettes you 24 00:01:09,554 --> 00:01:11,994 Speaker 4: should be wearing to all the brands you need to 25 00:01:11,994 --> 00:01:14,034 Speaker 4: be looking out for this summer. It was a really 26 00:01:14,114 --> 00:01:17,194 Speaker 4: fun episode. We talked about all things from footwear to 27 00:01:17,394 --> 00:01:20,034 Speaker 4: hats to boob sweat. It was a lot of fun. 28 00:01:20,074 --> 00:01:22,194 Speaker 4: We got a lot of silent tips. So let's get 29 00:01:22,194 --> 00:01:22,554 Speaker 4: into it. 30 00:01:23,354 --> 00:01:26,114 Speaker 2: Jessica, Welcome to the Nothing to Wear Pod. 31 00:01:26,274 --> 00:01:29,194 Speaker 4: Hellllo, We're very excited to have you here today. But 32 00:01:29,394 --> 00:01:31,794 Speaker 4: before we jump into the topic we're here to talk about. 33 00:01:32,154 --> 00:01:34,674 Speaker 4: There's two questions that I love to ask all new 34 00:01:34,714 --> 00:01:38,034 Speaker 4: guests to the pod. The first one is can you 35 00:01:38,114 --> 00:01:40,114 Speaker 4: describe your style in three words? 36 00:01:40,194 --> 00:01:41,234 Speaker 2: It's a hard ask, but. 37 00:01:41,394 --> 00:01:44,274 Speaker 5: I'm actually so excited for this question, and I like, 38 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:47,154 Speaker 5: I had to really think about it because it's very interesting. 39 00:01:47,234 --> 00:01:50,354 Speaker 5: So I thought about it, sat with it, and I 40 00:01:50,354 --> 00:01:55,794 Speaker 5: would describe my style as fluid, elevated, and evolving. 41 00:01:55,994 --> 00:01:58,594 Speaker 2: I love that evolving is such a good word. 42 00:01:58,754 --> 00:02:01,674 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel evolving because I'm always like I feel 43 00:02:01,754 --> 00:02:04,074 Speaker 5: I'm very classic. I like to dress very classic, but 44 00:02:04,154 --> 00:02:06,234 Speaker 5: I'd like to dip my toes in trends as well, 45 00:02:07,114 --> 00:02:10,314 Speaker 5: and I think like, especially being plus size, I like 46 00:02:10,394 --> 00:02:13,634 Speaker 5: to experiment as well in those sort of trends, And 47 00:02:13,674 --> 00:02:16,513 Speaker 5: I feel like that's why it's always evolving as well evolving. 48 00:02:16,554 --> 00:02:18,874 Speaker 4: I love that what items make up ten percent of 49 00:02:18,874 --> 00:02:22,154 Speaker 4: your wardrobe that you wear ninety percent of the time. 50 00:02:23,754 --> 00:02:27,434 Speaker 5: I think for me it is a basic cotton tea, 51 00:02:27,634 --> 00:02:28,594 Speaker 5: like me too. 52 00:02:28,794 --> 00:02:30,434 Speaker 3: I'm really wearing one today. 53 00:02:30,594 --> 00:02:32,794 Speaker 5: I think for me, I like to sort of style 54 00:02:32,834 --> 00:02:35,594 Speaker 5: them back with like the more elevated pieces that I have. 55 00:02:35,594 --> 00:02:36,394 Speaker 3: In my wardrobe. 56 00:02:36,434 --> 00:02:38,314 Speaker 5: So like, you know, I could wear some sort of 57 00:02:38,354 --> 00:02:41,114 Speaker 5: like suited pants or like today, like I'm wearing like 58 00:02:41,154 --> 00:02:44,234 Speaker 5: a satin bias cut skirt, and I think it's really 59 00:02:44,274 --> 00:02:47,794 Speaker 5: fun to sort of layer those pieces with those items 60 00:02:47,834 --> 00:02:48,994 Speaker 5: just to sort of elevate. 61 00:02:48,674 --> 00:02:49,394 Speaker 3: Them a bit more. 62 00:02:49,554 --> 00:02:51,913 Speaker 5: But it's like comfy because I always wear I wear 63 00:02:51,954 --> 00:02:54,554 Speaker 5: them to the like cotton shirts to the gym everywhere 64 00:02:54,554 --> 00:02:56,434 Speaker 5: else as well, So it's like a staple that I 65 00:02:56,434 --> 00:02:58,634 Speaker 5: wear in so many different ways in my wardrobe. 66 00:02:58,714 --> 00:03:00,594 Speaker 4: Yeah, a good quality tea is just one of those 67 00:03:00,634 --> 00:03:02,953 Speaker 4: like versatile pieces and you can throw on for really 68 00:03:03,034 --> 00:03:05,754 Speaker 4: any occasion. I love the exactly what you were saying, 69 00:03:05,994 --> 00:03:08,954 Speaker 4: like dressing down dressier pieces. So I love even like 70 00:03:08,994 --> 00:03:11,754 Speaker 4: an embellish skirt, throw on a T shirt and immediately 71 00:03:11,754 --> 00:03:12,274 Speaker 4: it's kind. 72 00:03:12,114 --> 00:03:13,194 Speaker 2: Of wearable for every day. 73 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:16,994 Speaker 4: Love that okay, So before we jump into talking about 74 00:03:17,034 --> 00:03:19,874 Speaker 4: all things sort of summer fashion, I wanted to get 75 00:03:19,874 --> 00:03:22,114 Speaker 4: a little bit of insight into you and your career. 76 00:03:22,314 --> 00:03:25,834 Speaker 4: So first let's get back to the beginning. So you've 77 00:03:25,874 --> 00:03:28,194 Speaker 4: done a lot of modeling and content creation. How did 78 00:03:28,194 --> 00:03:29,514 Speaker 4: this sort of all start for you. 79 00:03:30,434 --> 00:03:34,114 Speaker 3: Well, it kind of like had this like slow evolution 80 00:03:34,394 --> 00:03:34,874 Speaker 3: in a way. 81 00:03:35,034 --> 00:03:39,714 Speaker 5: So I was working for a fashion retailer in a 82 00:03:39,754 --> 00:03:43,914 Speaker 5: retail store for many years, and I always loved fashion 83 00:03:44,394 --> 00:03:46,754 Speaker 5: and always had a passion for it. And while working 84 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:50,674 Speaker 5: in that retail store, there was a modeling competition. It 85 00:03:50,754 --> 00:03:53,914 Speaker 5: was called the United Curves Model Search, and so I 86 00:03:54,074 --> 00:03:56,634 Speaker 5: entered that modeling competition and I got in the top 87 00:03:56,674 --> 00:03:57,834 Speaker 5: ten and I just thought. 88 00:03:57,674 --> 00:03:58,314 Speaker 3: That was wild. 89 00:03:58,314 --> 00:04:01,834 Speaker 5: So that was Australia wide and I thought, oh, my goodness, 90 00:04:01,914 --> 00:04:04,914 Speaker 5: is this happening. And that sort of is what escalated 91 00:04:04,954 --> 00:04:09,874 Speaker 5: my career into modeling. Then started creating content on social media, 92 00:04:10,034 --> 00:04:12,594 Speaker 5: sharing my outfits. It became a bit of a passion 93 00:04:12,594 --> 00:04:14,314 Speaker 5: of mine because it was a bit of a pain 94 00:04:14,354 --> 00:04:16,234 Speaker 5: point as well, Like I was like, I want to 95 00:04:16,274 --> 00:04:18,354 Speaker 5: wear cool clothes and I want to see people like 96 00:04:18,474 --> 00:04:20,434 Speaker 5: me represented in the media. 97 00:04:20,474 --> 00:04:20,993 Speaker 3: Things like that. 98 00:04:21,034 --> 00:04:23,953 Speaker 5: So it became a passion of mine to start sharing 99 00:04:24,553 --> 00:04:29,713 Speaker 5: my I guess fashion inspiration. So then content creation then 100 00:04:29,834 --> 00:04:32,794 Speaker 5: naturally led into me being signed with an agency. So 101 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:36,073 Speaker 5: then I started modeling more professionally and that sort of 102 00:04:36,193 --> 00:04:40,594 Speaker 5: escalated there and then naturally, just being in that space, 103 00:04:40,674 --> 00:04:44,273 Speaker 5: I had gained like a lot of connections. I was 104 00:04:44,313 --> 00:04:47,594 Speaker 5: a part of a Facebook group called the Founding fifty, 105 00:04:48,274 --> 00:04:51,194 Speaker 5: which is now the career path I've gone for. I'm 106 00:04:51,193 --> 00:04:54,794 Speaker 5: now working for a clothing label called de Gale and 107 00:04:54,834 --> 00:04:57,474 Speaker 5: so their size is fourteen to twenty four and so 108 00:04:57,834 --> 00:05:00,873 Speaker 5: now I work for a clothing brand, running their social media, 109 00:05:00,914 --> 00:05:04,513 Speaker 5: doing their content creation and influencer partnership. So it's a 110 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:07,633 Speaker 5: really exciting space to be in. So kind of like 111 00:05:07,714 --> 00:05:10,914 Speaker 5: marries up with everything I do in I guess the 112 00:05:10,914 --> 00:05:12,753 Speaker 5: modeling and fashion world as well. 113 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:13,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. 114 00:05:14,193 --> 00:05:16,274 Speaker 4: And when it comes to fashion, obviously you're in the 115 00:05:16,313 --> 00:05:18,553 Speaker 4: fashion industry, you'll work in fashion, You're always kind of 116 00:05:18,594 --> 00:05:21,754 Speaker 4: around it. What is it in particular that inspires you? 117 00:05:22,794 --> 00:05:25,274 Speaker 5: I just think I want to break the ceiling. I 118 00:05:25,313 --> 00:05:27,833 Speaker 5: just want to keep breaking that ceiling that I feel 119 00:05:27,873 --> 00:05:31,553 Speaker 5: like for so many years, there's like this misconception that 120 00:05:31,993 --> 00:05:35,153 Speaker 5: people who are above a size fourteen don't want to 121 00:05:35,193 --> 00:05:38,154 Speaker 5: participate in trends or don't want, you know, to wear 122 00:05:38,154 --> 00:05:41,193 Speaker 5: what everybody else is wearing. So I think that's where 123 00:05:41,234 --> 00:05:43,834 Speaker 5: my main drive is is like no, I just really 124 00:05:43,834 --> 00:05:45,794 Speaker 5: want to sort of keep challenging that barrier. 125 00:05:46,034 --> 00:05:48,834 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you talked a little bit about there being 126 00:05:48,914 --> 00:05:51,634 Speaker 4: gaps in terms of your experience of fashion prior to 127 00:05:51,794 --> 00:05:53,194 Speaker 4: kind of entering the industry. 128 00:05:53,553 --> 00:05:54,274 Speaker 3: What have sort of. 129 00:05:54,234 --> 00:05:57,833 Speaker 4: Been the highs and the lows of being in the 130 00:05:57,873 --> 00:06:00,994 Speaker 4: Australian fashion industry from your experience, I. 131 00:06:00,953 --> 00:06:04,234 Speaker 3: Think the highs have definitely been that there has been 132 00:06:04,674 --> 00:06:06,834 Speaker 3: such a huge progress. 133 00:06:07,234 --> 00:06:09,354 Speaker 5: There has been massive progress in the space, and you 134 00:06:09,393 --> 00:06:12,993 Speaker 5: do see a lot of brands extending their sizes, which 135 00:06:13,034 --> 00:06:17,033 Speaker 5: is really exciting to see. But in that same breath, 136 00:06:17,274 --> 00:06:20,433 Speaker 5: when those brands do extend their sizes, they get backlash 137 00:06:20,474 --> 00:06:22,594 Speaker 5: like it's like it's not good enough. But I think 138 00:06:22,633 --> 00:06:26,514 Speaker 5: we should keep celebrating the progress. And I think that's 139 00:06:26,753 --> 00:06:28,473 Speaker 5: like where that high and low comes in, as you 140 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:31,594 Speaker 5: can see that progress happening. Yeah, like is it happening 141 00:06:31,674 --> 00:06:34,674 Speaker 5: fast enough? Like maybe not, but I think we should 142 00:06:34,794 --> 00:06:37,713 Speaker 5: like reflect and say it is happening. There are people 143 00:06:37,794 --> 00:06:41,914 Speaker 5: responding there are brands that are trying to do better, 144 00:06:42,313 --> 00:06:45,473 Speaker 5: but I think as well, there's also the lows is 145 00:06:45,474 --> 00:06:47,914 Speaker 5: when when there is a plus size brand that sort 146 00:06:47,914 --> 00:06:52,313 Speaker 5: of brings out I guess clothing that is I guess 147 00:06:52,354 --> 00:06:55,153 Speaker 5: what women have been asking for, but then there's that 148 00:06:55,193 --> 00:06:58,153 Speaker 5: backlash like oh, the price points too high, or there's 149 00:06:58,193 --> 00:07:01,513 Speaker 5: always that sort of like you know, that hard sort 150 00:07:01,513 --> 00:07:03,193 Speaker 5: of ground where it's like, well, this is what we. 151 00:07:03,073 --> 00:07:03,833 Speaker 3: Were asking for. 152 00:07:03,873 --> 00:07:06,553 Speaker 5: We've made a products like you know, for me, I 153 00:07:06,594 --> 00:07:10,674 Speaker 5: love brands dish, but they do stop at size sixteen. 154 00:07:10,754 --> 00:07:13,914 Speaker 5: So you know, when a brand like like Degaale does 155 00:07:13,994 --> 00:07:17,273 Speaker 5: release I guess trends that are similar in line, there 156 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:19,314 Speaker 5: is that sort of like that that would be something 157 00:07:19,354 --> 00:07:21,234 Speaker 5: that would be hard if there's that sort of backlash 158 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:24,474 Speaker 5: saying that the price points unattainable or things like that. 159 00:07:24,514 --> 00:07:26,833 Speaker 5: So I think there's like so many highs like their progress, 160 00:07:26,874 --> 00:07:28,874 Speaker 5: but I guess that is that bit of the low 161 00:07:28,994 --> 00:07:30,274 Speaker 5: sort of trying to navigate that. 162 00:07:30,554 --> 00:07:33,714 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I love that idea of like as you've 163 00:07:33,714 --> 00:07:37,153 Speaker 4: put it, sort of celebrating progress and not necessarily perfection, 164 00:07:37,434 --> 00:07:41,314 Speaker 4: and really encouraging brands to continue to become more diverse. 165 00:07:41,354 --> 00:07:44,033 Speaker 2: And yeah, I love that idea. Today you're going to. 166 00:07:44,034 --> 00:07:46,194 Speaker 4: Be talking about we really want all your fashion tips 167 00:07:46,194 --> 00:07:48,314 Speaker 4: and all of your insights. We're going to be talking 168 00:07:48,314 --> 00:07:53,554 Speaker 4: about all things summer. It's February, it's very hot, and 169 00:07:53,594 --> 00:07:57,194 Speaker 4: I think it is a struggle to one stay on 170 00:07:57,274 --> 00:08:00,594 Speaker 4: top of what the summer trends are, but also dress 171 00:08:00,674 --> 00:08:03,114 Speaker 4: for hot weather. That is a challenge for a lot 172 00:08:03,114 --> 00:08:04,674 Speaker 4: of people. So we're going to be talking about all 173 00:08:04,714 --> 00:08:08,354 Speaker 4: things like picking the right fabrics, foot wear, different silhouettes. 174 00:08:08,874 --> 00:08:12,634 Speaker 2: So first up, let's start with fabrics. Yeah, we're always told. 175 00:08:12,434 --> 00:08:15,874 Speaker 4: To wear natural fibers like cotton and linen and things, 176 00:08:15,914 --> 00:08:19,194 Speaker 4: but sometimes I do feel like fabrics like cotton do 177 00:08:19,393 --> 00:08:21,714 Speaker 4: kind of hold on to sweat and cling a little bit. 178 00:08:22,074 --> 00:08:25,674 Speaker 4: I'm curious for you, what are your personal go to 179 00:08:25,834 --> 00:08:27,274 Speaker 4: fabrics for the summertime. 180 00:08:27,754 --> 00:08:32,074 Speaker 5: I think for me, linen and cotton divas like, that's 181 00:08:32,114 --> 00:08:35,674 Speaker 5: where I tend to sort of always gravitate towards. But 182 00:08:35,754 --> 00:08:38,554 Speaker 5: I think there's also you know, if you do want 183 00:08:38,594 --> 00:08:41,994 Speaker 5: to sort of wear fabrics that aren't as breathable, I 184 00:08:41,994 --> 00:08:43,834 Speaker 5: think that's that's where what it ties back to. 185 00:08:43,954 --> 00:08:44,114 Speaker 3: Mike. 186 00:08:44,194 --> 00:08:46,514 Speaker 5: I love to wear like a cotton tea. Like, if 187 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:50,634 Speaker 5: my bottoms aren't necessarily a more breathable fabric, I sort 188 00:08:50,634 --> 00:08:53,194 Speaker 5: of like to sort of layer or pair it with 189 00:08:53,274 --> 00:08:56,114 Speaker 5: an item that might help have that sort of airflow 190 00:08:56,114 --> 00:09:00,034 Speaker 5: and breatheability. So I think I do sort of always 191 00:09:00,194 --> 00:09:03,234 Speaker 5: gravitate more towards the linens and cottons, and I think 192 00:09:03,314 --> 00:09:06,954 Speaker 5: like the weave and everything makes a huge difference tot 193 00:09:07,394 --> 00:09:10,114 Speaker 5: of like the airflow, So it just really depends on 194 00:09:10,114 --> 00:09:11,354 Speaker 5: how tight or how thick. 195 00:09:11,114 --> 00:09:12,154 Speaker 3: The fabric is too. 196 00:09:12,274 --> 00:09:15,674 Speaker 5: But I do feel cotton and linen are definitely your 197 00:09:15,674 --> 00:09:16,994 Speaker 5: goat summer. 198 00:09:17,154 --> 00:09:19,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure to stay cool. 199 00:09:19,354 --> 00:09:22,234 Speaker 2: I would agree. Linen for me is like top choice 200 00:09:22,274 --> 00:09:22,674 Speaker 2: for summer. 201 00:09:22,914 --> 00:09:25,474 Speaker 4: A random one for me also is like this sounds crazy, 202 00:09:25,794 --> 00:09:29,914 Speaker 4: but marino wool, I know that's usually associated with winter time, 203 00:09:30,194 --> 00:09:33,074 Speaker 4: but like a very thin sort of marino wool. 204 00:09:33,314 --> 00:09:36,154 Speaker 3: Well it's the same as like the wool blankets. They 205 00:09:36,194 --> 00:09:36,794 Speaker 3: keep you cool. 206 00:09:36,914 --> 00:09:41,634 Speaker 5: And yes, I think there is definitely a space for 207 00:09:41,834 --> 00:09:43,354 Speaker 5: like knits and wool in summer. 208 00:09:43,514 --> 00:09:45,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of worn correctly agreed. 209 00:09:45,514 --> 00:09:47,274 Speaker 2: I think it's one hundreds of what you were saying. 210 00:09:47,314 --> 00:09:49,914 Speaker 4: It's to do with the thickness, how it's woven, and 211 00:09:49,954 --> 00:09:52,234 Speaker 4: like Marino Wol's a great one because it like therma regulates, 212 00:09:52,274 --> 00:09:53,874 Speaker 4: so it keeps you cooler in the summer. I think 213 00:09:53,874 --> 00:09:57,274 Speaker 4: that's like something that sounds ridiculous on yeah, yeah, one 214 00:09:57,314 --> 00:09:58,234 Speaker 4: hundred percent is left on. 215 00:09:58,394 --> 00:10:01,713 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So we talked about fabrics. 216 00:10:01,794 --> 00:10:04,834 Speaker 4: What about the cut of an item when it comes 217 00:10:04,874 --> 00:10:09,114 Speaker 4: to summer, we want airflow? What are the specific silhouettes 218 00:10:09,114 --> 00:10:10,594 Speaker 4: that you sort of gravitate towards. 219 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:14,434 Speaker 5: What I'm seeing a lot lately is they're like the 220 00:10:14,474 --> 00:10:17,194 Speaker 5: long tunics yep, And they're not a lot of them 221 00:10:17,194 --> 00:10:19,194 Speaker 5: aren't necessarily cotton or linen. 222 00:10:19,354 --> 00:10:19,674 Speaker 3: They are. 223 00:10:19,834 --> 00:10:23,274 Speaker 5: They might be like a viscos or a polyesa, just say, 224 00:10:23,634 --> 00:10:26,434 Speaker 5: but because they have like a side split or they 225 00:10:26,474 --> 00:10:29,074 Speaker 5: have something in there that's going to sort of promote 226 00:10:29,114 --> 00:10:32,234 Speaker 5: that airflow. So I think when you're looking at certain cuts, 227 00:10:32,394 --> 00:10:33,833 Speaker 5: you know, if you have a T shirt that has 228 00:10:33,874 --> 00:10:35,914 Speaker 5: the little side splits, or you have sort of like 229 00:10:35,954 --> 00:10:38,314 Speaker 5: a boat neck tee that sort of shows a bit 230 00:10:38,394 --> 00:10:40,634 Speaker 5: of shoulder, like you know, heat rises. So I think 231 00:10:40,714 --> 00:10:42,914 Speaker 5: like if we're being mindful of how sort of like 232 00:10:42,954 --> 00:10:45,674 Speaker 5: the air is going to escape, and like when it's 233 00:10:45,714 --> 00:10:46,914 Speaker 5: sort of coming. 234 00:10:46,674 --> 00:10:48,274 Speaker 3: Out of our bodies, so to speak. 235 00:10:48,674 --> 00:10:50,754 Speaker 5: I think that's really important in terms of cuts of 236 00:10:50,794 --> 00:10:53,754 Speaker 5: like different items. So I think that's like where it 237 00:10:53,794 --> 00:10:55,434 Speaker 5: ties back, Like if I am going to wear a 238 00:10:55,434 --> 00:10:58,194 Speaker 5: top like that that is a bit longer, I do 239 00:10:58,234 --> 00:11:00,674 Speaker 5: look for those little splits and those little things that 240 00:11:00,754 --> 00:11:04,154 Speaker 5: are going to create a bit of movement, airflow, not 241 00:11:04,234 --> 00:11:05,394 Speaker 5: too tight things like that. 242 00:11:05,594 --> 00:11:06,394 Speaker 2: It's a great tip as all. 243 00:11:06,434 --> 00:11:08,274 Speaker 4: I think it doesn't have to be like obviously we 244 00:11:08,274 --> 00:11:10,714 Speaker 4: talk about fabric, we talk about cut. It could be 245 00:11:10,754 --> 00:11:13,234 Speaker 4: either all like you could have you know, if the 246 00:11:13,234 --> 00:11:16,154 Speaker 4: material is not necessarily one that's super breathable, the cut 247 00:11:16,234 --> 00:11:18,194 Speaker 4: and you're saying things like a slit or the way 248 00:11:18,194 --> 00:11:20,154 Speaker 4: that the material is cut makes a huge difference in 249 00:11:20,234 --> 00:11:21,874 Speaker 4: terms of whether it's going to make you really hot 250 00:11:21,914 --> 00:11:22,434 Speaker 4: during the day. 251 00:11:22,554 --> 00:11:25,674 Speaker 5: Yeah, and like a line, flowy dresses things like that. Yeah, 252 00:11:25,714 --> 00:11:27,074 Speaker 5: definitely things that I look out for. 253 00:11:27,234 --> 00:11:27,514 Speaker 3: Love that. 254 00:11:27,674 --> 00:11:30,394 Speaker 4: And are there any particular Aussie brands that you feel 255 00:11:30,394 --> 00:11:34,234 Speaker 4: like are really nailing the breathable, lightweight sort of styles. 256 00:11:33,914 --> 00:11:35,194 Speaker 2: That we should be wearing during summer. 257 00:11:35,234 --> 00:11:38,314 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, there's a couple I think like for 258 00:11:38,394 --> 00:11:41,914 Speaker 5: me personally at the moment, I love I love brands 259 00:11:41,914 --> 00:11:46,074 Speaker 5: like Vagary, the label they do beautiful, flowy dresses gorgeous 260 00:11:46,074 --> 00:11:48,274 Speaker 5: for summer. I do find that, like I've got pieces 261 00:11:48,274 --> 00:11:50,314 Speaker 5: from them that just repeat every summer because they're just 262 00:11:50,394 --> 00:11:51,274 Speaker 5: a perfect thrum on. 263 00:11:51,394 --> 00:11:51,594 Speaker 2: Yeah. 264 00:11:52,354 --> 00:11:55,274 Speaker 5: Commonry also do a lot of like beautiful sort of 265 00:11:56,514 --> 00:11:59,194 Speaker 5: linens and stuff and cottons as well, like your poplin 266 00:11:59,754 --> 00:12:02,714 Speaker 5: sort of cotton teas, things like that. Other brands that 267 00:12:02,914 --> 00:12:05,754 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily shop at, but I think are doing 268 00:12:05,834 --> 00:12:10,794 Speaker 5: really well, Brands like Sneaky Link Verge Girl, seeing them 269 00:12:10,834 --> 00:12:12,874 Speaker 5: pop up everywhere and sort of seeing those sort of 270 00:12:12,954 --> 00:12:15,874 Speaker 5: like you know, cotton shirt trends over like you know, 271 00:12:16,314 --> 00:12:20,914 Speaker 5: a sequin skirt for example, and I think, like that's 272 00:12:20,954 --> 00:12:22,914 Speaker 5: a really cool way to sort of play with fashion. 273 00:12:22,954 --> 00:12:25,474 Speaker 5: But I think you could still be quite cool in 274 00:12:25,514 --> 00:12:28,594 Speaker 5: a skirt like that, So I think they're doing it 275 00:12:28,634 --> 00:12:29,634 Speaker 5: really well at the moment. 276 00:12:29,954 --> 00:12:33,554 Speaker 4: What are some really simple styling tips that you feel 277 00:12:33,554 --> 00:12:36,274 Speaker 4: like can really elevate an outfit during summer? 278 00:12:36,754 --> 00:12:41,354 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's cliche, But accessories. I think accessories like, 279 00:12:41,634 --> 00:12:46,754 Speaker 5: for example, I have this really plain linen dress. It's 280 00:12:46,794 --> 00:12:49,634 Speaker 5: just sort of like MAXI sort of dress, and it 281 00:12:49,674 --> 00:12:52,394 Speaker 5: does it's just plain white linen, and so to really 282 00:12:52,434 --> 00:12:56,074 Speaker 5: elevate it. Like I'm loving the scarf trends like wrapping 283 00:12:56,154 --> 00:12:59,954 Speaker 5: a staff around the waist, or you know, the bangles, 284 00:13:00,194 --> 00:13:03,354 Speaker 5: big chunky bangles at the moment, chunky necklaces, I think 285 00:13:03,474 --> 00:13:05,474 Speaker 5: you know, your beaded necklaces. If you have these like 286 00:13:05,554 --> 00:13:09,554 Speaker 5: really interesting sort of elements to your outfit, I think 287 00:13:09,874 --> 00:13:12,154 Speaker 5: you know, if you have a really plain outfit, that's 288 00:13:12,194 --> 00:13:13,674 Speaker 5: the way you can sort of really. 289 00:13:13,634 --> 00:13:14,834 Speaker 3: Elevate a look. 290 00:13:15,154 --> 00:13:16,914 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, the necklace you're wearing today, it's 291 00:13:16,954 --> 00:13:17,914 Speaker 4: like kind of two layered. 292 00:13:19,074 --> 00:13:20,754 Speaker 2: It's like a statement necklace. I love it. 293 00:13:21,154 --> 00:13:22,514 Speaker 3: Pick this one up from Tocuba. 294 00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:24,554 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it was very nice. 295 00:13:24,634 --> 00:13:26,474 Speaker 3: Just caught my eye and I was like, yeah, you're 296 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:27,154 Speaker 3: coming home with me. 297 00:13:27,274 --> 00:13:29,914 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it so much so and 298 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:30,434 Speaker 2: I agree. 299 00:13:30,474 --> 00:13:33,794 Speaker 4: I think when it is summer and it's hot, fuss 300 00:13:33,794 --> 00:13:36,714 Speaker 4: free dressing is often the way that I personally go, 301 00:13:37,114 --> 00:13:39,953 Speaker 4: and so dressing in a way that's lightweight, but then 302 00:13:39,994 --> 00:13:42,714 Speaker 4: throwing on accessories is like the best way to still 303 00:13:42,714 --> 00:13:44,114 Speaker 4: feel like you're put together and. 304 00:13:44,234 --> 00:13:45,034 Speaker 2: Still a fashion girl. 305 00:13:45,274 --> 00:13:45,994 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the same. 306 00:13:46,074 --> 00:13:49,234 Speaker 4: There's obviously trends that come and go. What is the 307 00:13:49,274 --> 00:13:52,274 Speaker 4: fashion trend this season that you're like most excited about 308 00:13:52,314 --> 00:13:54,434 Speaker 4: that gets you really excited that you're excited to be 309 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:54,834 Speaker 4: a part of. 310 00:13:56,314 --> 00:14:01,394 Speaker 5: I'm actually obsessed with the sequence, like, which is a 311 00:14:01,474 --> 00:14:03,554 Speaker 5: little bit crazy for me because I am a little 312 00:14:03,554 --> 00:14:06,954 Speaker 5: bit more of your sort of classic minimalists at time. 313 00:14:07,634 --> 00:14:10,034 Speaker 5: But I'm seeing that. I'm like, that's something I can 314 00:14:10,114 --> 00:14:12,394 Speaker 5: sort of dip my toes in again. Like I think 315 00:14:12,394 --> 00:14:15,354 Speaker 5: that goes back to like my evolving fashion style where 316 00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:18,314 Speaker 5: I see that and because like today I'm wearing a 317 00:14:18,314 --> 00:14:21,594 Speaker 5: satin cut skirt with a tea, I see myself wearing 318 00:14:21,634 --> 00:14:23,794 Speaker 5: something like that because it's something that I'm already loving. 319 00:14:24,314 --> 00:14:27,154 Speaker 3: And I think sequence always come back. They're always having 320 00:14:27,154 --> 00:14:27,594 Speaker 3: a moment. 321 00:14:27,714 --> 00:14:30,154 Speaker 5: So I'm very conscious of like not sort of like 322 00:14:30,594 --> 00:14:33,394 Speaker 5: jumping on a trend like just because and so I 323 00:14:33,394 --> 00:14:35,074 Speaker 5: really need to sit and think about how I'm going 324 00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:36,194 Speaker 5: to incorporate. 325 00:14:35,714 --> 00:14:39,234 Speaker 3: It into my into my wardrobe. Right, it does excite me. 326 00:14:39,274 --> 00:14:41,674 Speaker 5: It's something that I feel will sort of you know, 327 00:14:41,754 --> 00:14:43,394 Speaker 5: even like if you have it ears down to come, 328 00:14:43,434 --> 00:14:45,354 Speaker 5: that could be the young people want to go to 329 00:14:45,394 --> 00:14:47,834 Speaker 5: a as a mermaid to address up party, something you 330 00:14:47,834 --> 00:14:50,234 Speaker 5: can be wear exactly. I think it's just one of 331 00:14:50,234 --> 00:14:51,554 Speaker 5: those items that I think are fun. 332 00:14:51,714 --> 00:14:53,834 Speaker 4: Is that your usual approach to sort of trends? Like 333 00:14:53,914 --> 00:14:55,914 Speaker 4: there are so many trends, micro trends that come up 334 00:14:55,954 --> 00:14:58,434 Speaker 4: every single year. Obviously we both work in fashion. What 335 00:14:58,554 --> 00:15:00,394 Speaker 4: is your sort of approach to like seeing a trend, 336 00:15:00,474 --> 00:15:02,274 Speaker 4: whether you invest in it and are you someone who 337 00:15:02,354 --> 00:15:03,594 Speaker 4: generally buys into trends? 338 00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:06,994 Speaker 5: Yeah, I dip in and out, Like I think there's 339 00:15:07,234 --> 00:15:10,114 Speaker 5: in times where I can't participate in a trend, which 340 00:15:10,194 --> 00:15:12,674 Speaker 5: is interesting because it's not I guess in my size 341 00:15:12,834 --> 00:15:15,714 Speaker 5: or like things like that, which is For example, the 342 00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:18,474 Speaker 5: scarf trend was one that I really wanted to be 343 00:15:18,514 --> 00:15:20,754 Speaker 5: a part of, but every story went into I put 344 00:15:20,754 --> 00:15:22,914 Speaker 5: a scarf around my waist and it wasn't big enough. 345 00:15:23,314 --> 00:15:25,874 Speaker 5: And so I was actually sitting in the office a 346 00:15:25,954 --> 00:15:28,594 Speaker 5: couple of months ago and I turned to Jamie, our designer, 347 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:30,194 Speaker 5: I went, Jamie, I need a scarf. 348 00:15:30,794 --> 00:15:31,634 Speaker 3: I need a scarf. 349 00:15:31,874 --> 00:15:34,874 Speaker 5: I just want I really loved the sort of silhouette 350 00:15:34,874 --> 00:15:37,474 Speaker 5: that it gave and I really wanted to participate in 351 00:15:37,474 --> 00:15:39,874 Speaker 5: that trend. And in my head, a scarf is something 352 00:15:39,914 --> 00:15:42,434 Speaker 5: that has multi uses and it's something that I really 353 00:15:42,474 --> 00:15:44,314 Speaker 5: wanted to incorporate in my wardrobe. 354 00:15:44,514 --> 00:15:45,434 Speaker 3: So I turned to. 355 00:15:45,394 --> 00:15:47,234 Speaker 5: Her and I said, please, can you please design a 356 00:15:47,274 --> 00:15:49,274 Speaker 5: scarf for us plus sized divas? 357 00:15:49,714 --> 00:15:50,434 Speaker 3: I need one? 358 00:15:50,714 --> 00:15:53,394 Speaker 5: And she did it, and so I'm so excited for that, 359 00:15:53,554 --> 00:15:56,714 Speaker 5: and I think it's a type of garment that anyone 360 00:15:56,754 --> 00:15:58,954 Speaker 5: could actually buy, because you know, I have a friend 361 00:15:58,954 --> 00:16:00,914 Speaker 5: that isn't plus size that she tried on. It looked 362 00:16:00,914 --> 00:16:02,794 Speaker 5: beautiful as a little tie dress. 363 00:16:02,554 --> 00:16:04,154 Speaker 3: On her, and I'm like, oh my goodness. 364 00:16:13,594 --> 00:16:17,114 Speaker 4: So when it comes to summer, we all know the 365 00:16:17,234 --> 00:16:21,874 Speaker 4: dreaded boob sweat, it's inevitable happens to us all. Is 366 00:16:21,914 --> 00:16:25,514 Speaker 4: there a specific bra or bra lette that is breathable 367 00:16:25,554 --> 00:16:26,674 Speaker 4: but supportive. 368 00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:26,994 Speaker 2: That you like? 369 00:16:27,834 --> 00:16:32,354 Speaker 5: Yeah, I really love Nala, So I know that they 370 00:16:32,634 --> 00:16:36,674 Speaker 5: use sort of like a like a bamboo type fabric, 371 00:16:36,914 --> 00:16:39,754 Speaker 5: and so do booty. Booty and Nala are problem I 372 00:16:39,914 --> 00:16:45,754 Speaker 5: go to for like breatheability, comfort, everything. So whether you prefer, 373 00:16:46,194 --> 00:16:49,514 Speaker 5: I guess, an underwire or not, they have like both 374 00:16:49,554 --> 00:16:52,074 Speaker 5: those options at Nila, which I love, but I feel 375 00:16:52,074 --> 00:16:55,194 Speaker 5: like it's very moisture wicking, those sorts of materials similar 376 00:16:55,194 --> 00:16:58,234 Speaker 5: to sort of active wear things like that. So they're 377 00:16:58,274 --> 00:17:02,114 Speaker 5: definitely my go tos for undergarments in summer, just for 378 00:17:02,194 --> 00:17:04,674 Speaker 5: that breatheability. I don't tend to really go for any 379 00:17:04,714 --> 00:17:07,754 Speaker 5: of like the lazy ones. I like to go for comfort. 380 00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:10,154 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'm the same. Comfort is like number one, 381 00:17:10,273 --> 00:17:13,353 Speaker 4: especially during summer. Yes, the bandeau tops and things I 382 00:17:13,394 --> 00:17:17,234 Speaker 4: love too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean comfort. Yeah you're 383 00:17:17,234 --> 00:17:19,474 Speaker 4: saying it's very important to me too when it comes 384 00:17:19,474 --> 00:17:22,554 Speaker 4: to dressing in any sort of way. But even like footwear, 385 00:17:23,274 --> 00:17:25,394 Speaker 4: very very important to have a comfortable shoe. 386 00:17:25,954 --> 00:17:28,273 Speaker 2: I feel like in summer sometimes I love a sneaker. 387 00:17:28,274 --> 00:17:30,234 Speaker 4: I'm a sneaker girl like through and through, but I 388 00:17:30,274 --> 00:17:33,354 Speaker 4: find during summer it can be a little warm and 389 00:17:33,434 --> 00:17:35,793 Speaker 4: not necessarily like my number one shoe of choice. What 390 00:17:35,914 --> 00:17:38,114 Speaker 4: about for you, like, what are you loving this time 391 00:17:38,154 --> 00:17:39,114 Speaker 4: of year on your feet? 392 00:17:39,914 --> 00:17:42,234 Speaker 3: Can I just say I am so happy that thongs 393 00:17:42,234 --> 00:17:42,594 Speaker 3: are back? 394 00:17:43,634 --> 00:17:44,914 Speaker 2: Me too, Let's say it again. 395 00:17:45,954 --> 00:17:48,914 Speaker 5: Thongs are back, songs are back, like, I'm into it, 396 00:17:49,434 --> 00:17:51,073 Speaker 5: and even the little kitten heels. 397 00:17:51,314 --> 00:17:54,554 Speaker 2: We're both wearing a pair of little kitten hill shades. 398 00:17:55,434 --> 00:17:55,994 Speaker 3: Obsessed. 399 00:17:57,434 --> 00:17:59,594 Speaker 5: I am not one to sort of like care that 400 00:17:59,674 --> 00:18:00,514 Speaker 5: my dogs are out in the. 401 00:18:00,474 --> 00:18:03,594 Speaker 3: Office same, I could kill us. 402 00:18:03,594 --> 00:18:05,313 Speaker 5: I'm glad that I work in an office space that 403 00:18:06,074 --> 00:18:09,194 Speaker 5: isn't as corporate, we can sort of have fun with fashion. 404 00:18:09,194 --> 00:18:11,594 Speaker 3: But as soon as I saw like Thong was coming. 405 00:18:11,354 --> 00:18:14,674 Speaker 5: Back, like your archies and all those really cool fun colors, 406 00:18:14,754 --> 00:18:18,394 Speaker 5: I was like, Yeah, that's my jam. But I think 407 00:18:18,754 --> 00:18:21,513 Speaker 5: my alternate would probably I've been loving like the mesh 408 00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:24,554 Speaker 5: ballet flats as well too, and sort of like any 409 00:18:24,594 --> 00:18:27,194 Speaker 5: of like those fishnets sort of mules and things like that. 410 00:18:27,394 --> 00:18:29,914 Speaker 5: Love so I think they're really cool alternatives. But I 411 00:18:29,954 --> 00:18:33,194 Speaker 5: think as well, like your sort of soft leather slides, 412 00:18:33,234 --> 00:18:35,474 Speaker 5: like if you're looking for something more like for an 413 00:18:35,474 --> 00:18:38,434 Speaker 5: all day where comfortable, like I think like looking at 414 00:18:38,474 --> 00:18:40,793 Speaker 5: like sort of like your Birkenstocks and things like that, 415 00:18:40,834 --> 00:18:44,434 Speaker 5: your Fishermen sandals that have a bit more of that support. Yeah, 416 00:18:44,834 --> 00:18:49,314 Speaker 5: Franky four a really great brand for sort of comfortability 417 00:18:49,354 --> 00:18:51,954 Speaker 5: in terms of like sandals that look really elevated. 418 00:18:52,034 --> 00:18:53,874 Speaker 3: So definitely my go to there. 419 00:18:53,994 --> 00:18:55,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many good options. I love that, but 420 00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:59,274 Speaker 2: I love that we've aligned on it like a old sandal. 421 00:18:59,994 --> 00:19:00,394 Speaker 2: Love it. 422 00:19:00,954 --> 00:19:06,874 Speaker 4: And Okay, we've talked about a bunch of things, fabrics, silhouettes, shoes. 423 00:19:07,274 --> 00:19:10,354 Speaker 4: When it comes to dresses, obviously a summer sort of staple. 424 00:19:10,474 --> 00:19:13,474 Speaker 4: Flowy dresses are really everywhere during the summer. What are 425 00:19:13,474 --> 00:19:15,794 Speaker 4: some of the brands that you're personally loving right now 426 00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:18,314 Speaker 4: that do like the flowy airy dress really well. 427 00:19:19,874 --> 00:19:23,434 Speaker 5: I have a dress from Fate the label that it's 428 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:26,273 Speaker 5: cotton rib at the top and it has like that 429 00:19:26,314 --> 00:19:29,794 Speaker 5: little V V line and then that real a line skirt. 430 00:19:30,034 --> 00:19:30,674 Speaker 2: I love that. 431 00:19:30,674 --> 00:19:32,914 Speaker 5: That is probably one of my favorite dresses that I 432 00:19:32,954 --> 00:19:36,194 Speaker 5: have in my wardrobe because its same again, like can 433 00:19:36,234 --> 00:19:39,274 Speaker 5: pop it on. It's just effortless, and I think that's 434 00:19:39,314 --> 00:19:41,874 Speaker 5: probably like my if I could say my number one 435 00:19:41,954 --> 00:19:44,634 Speaker 5: dress that I have on rotation all the time is 436 00:19:44,674 --> 00:19:46,154 Speaker 5: that one, because yeah, what. 437 00:19:46,194 --> 00:19:46,954 Speaker 2: Color did you say it was? 438 00:19:46,994 --> 00:19:48,634 Speaker 3: It? It's white. It's just plain white. 439 00:19:48,914 --> 00:19:51,114 Speaker 5: I'm not a big print girl, like I do have 440 00:19:51,154 --> 00:19:53,634 Speaker 5: a few different prints, but I'm very particular on my prints. 441 00:19:53,994 --> 00:19:56,034 Speaker 5: But you will see me wearing a lot of sort 442 00:19:56,074 --> 00:19:59,154 Speaker 5: of neutral colors. I'm a very neutral girly and then 443 00:19:59,194 --> 00:20:03,034 Speaker 5: I find that I accessorize with my colors and makes 444 00:20:03,074 --> 00:20:05,194 Speaker 5: it art like my bag and things like that tend 445 00:20:05,274 --> 00:20:08,033 Speaker 5: to be like more printed or again like printed scarf for. 446 00:20:08,314 --> 00:20:10,074 Speaker 2: A little accent. I love that. 447 00:20:10,514 --> 00:20:13,313 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a neutral girlie as well, and summer's 448 00:20:13,394 --> 00:20:16,033 Speaker 4: usually a time that's often associated with, like, right, pops 449 00:20:16,074 --> 00:20:18,034 Speaker 4: of color, you can have a little bit more fun. 450 00:20:18,114 --> 00:20:20,714 Speaker 4: So like for the neutral girlies like us out there, 451 00:20:21,234 --> 00:20:23,434 Speaker 4: what is a way that you can kind of incorporate 452 00:20:23,434 --> 00:20:25,554 Speaker 4: And you talked a little about accessories, Yeah, the best 453 00:20:25,554 --> 00:20:28,553 Speaker 4: way to incorporate pops of color if that's not usually 454 00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:30,074 Speaker 4: sort of the palette that you go for. 455 00:20:30,554 --> 00:20:33,074 Speaker 5: I think definitely like keep in mind, Like I think 456 00:20:33,154 --> 00:20:36,514 Speaker 5: keeping in mind sort of what your sort of favorite 457 00:20:36,514 --> 00:20:38,353 Speaker 5: color is in terms of like your tone, like what 458 00:20:38,394 --> 00:20:40,514 Speaker 5: you want to wear, if you sort of like buy 459 00:20:40,594 --> 00:20:43,194 Speaker 5: accessories in that color. Like if I know at home, 460 00:20:43,274 --> 00:20:45,674 Speaker 5: I have a lot of I have some like yellow 461 00:20:45,714 --> 00:20:48,234 Speaker 5: shoes for example. Like if I see like a shirt 462 00:20:48,234 --> 00:20:50,594 Speaker 5: that has like yellow elements in it, I'll be like, Okay, 463 00:20:50,594 --> 00:20:53,914 Speaker 5: that's going to fit back with my white skirt or 464 00:20:54,194 --> 00:20:56,874 Speaker 5: you know, I like to sort of think about what 465 00:20:56,874 --> 00:20:58,794 Speaker 5: I've already got at home that has color in it, 466 00:20:58,954 --> 00:21:00,474 Speaker 5: and if I see something in that color, I'm like, 467 00:21:00,514 --> 00:21:03,114 Speaker 5: that's going to mix a match perfectly. Or colors that 468 00:21:03,194 --> 00:21:05,434 Speaker 5: go together, like I love pink and red together things 469 00:21:05,434 --> 00:21:09,994 Speaker 5: like that too. Yeah, So I think just I'm not afraid, 470 00:21:10,034 --> 00:21:13,154 Speaker 5: Like if you're a mutuale dresser, like having that little 471 00:21:13,154 --> 00:21:16,434 Speaker 5: bit of dopamine in your accessories and in those little elements. 472 00:21:16,434 --> 00:21:17,513 Speaker 3: So if you see like. 473 00:21:17,554 --> 00:21:20,034 Speaker 5: A pair of sunglasses that have like a red rim 474 00:21:20,114 --> 00:21:22,073 Speaker 5: and things like that, I think that's how you can 475 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,634 Speaker 5: sort of add in those sort of pops of color 476 00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:26,954 Speaker 5: and detail through like fun accessories. 477 00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:27,434 Speaker 3: Yeah. 478 00:21:27,474 --> 00:21:30,314 Speaker 4: I also love that tip, the idea of shopping colors 479 00:21:30,314 --> 00:21:33,273 Speaker 4: that you already like, because then I think oftentimes you 480 00:21:33,314 --> 00:21:35,914 Speaker 4: are if you are sort of chasing whatever color might 481 00:21:35,954 --> 00:21:38,114 Speaker 4: be in the season right now or everyone else is 482 00:21:38,154 --> 00:21:41,074 Speaker 4: wearing the seasons do cycle through, And I think a 483 00:21:41,074 --> 00:21:42,994 Speaker 4: really great way to do it is buy colors that 484 00:21:43,114 --> 00:21:45,354 Speaker 4: spark joy for you personally, and that's something that you 485 00:21:45,354 --> 00:21:46,714 Speaker 4: can rewear for seasons to come. 486 00:21:46,834 --> 00:21:48,394 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree love that. 487 00:21:48,834 --> 00:21:50,994 Speaker 4: I mean talking of the color of the year or 488 00:21:51,074 --> 00:21:53,874 Speaker 4: color of the seasons, there's obviously a lot of talk 489 00:21:53,874 --> 00:21:56,353 Speaker 4: about what that is for summer in your opinion, like 490 00:21:56,394 --> 00:21:58,634 Speaker 4: what's the color of this summer or the color that 491 00:21:58,674 --> 00:22:00,674 Speaker 4: we're going to be seeing everywhere on everyone. 492 00:22:00,994 --> 00:22:05,834 Speaker 5: I think like your buttery yellow and your soft blue, Yes, 493 00:22:06,194 --> 00:22:09,194 Speaker 5: I think are going to be those colors which excites me. 494 00:22:09,234 --> 00:22:11,033 Speaker 5: As a neutral girl, because I think they pair so 495 00:22:11,154 --> 00:22:15,634 Speaker 5: well with neutral colors. So even like you're soft blue 496 00:22:15,674 --> 00:22:18,274 Speaker 5: with brown, like for your chalky you know your girls 497 00:22:18,274 --> 00:22:20,714 Speaker 5: who love that choky brown color. I think blue looks 498 00:22:20,754 --> 00:22:23,914 Speaker 5: beautiful both yellow and brown, to be honest. So I 499 00:22:23,954 --> 00:22:26,033 Speaker 5: think that's definitely the color of the summer, and I'm 500 00:22:26,074 --> 00:22:30,194 Speaker 5: seeing that color sort of coming in everywhere at the moment. 501 00:22:30,314 --> 00:22:31,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean blue. 502 00:22:31,554 --> 00:22:34,834 Speaker 4: I remember like spring summer twenty six, like all across 503 00:22:34,834 --> 00:22:37,994 Speaker 4: the runways there were so many blue accents and things 504 00:22:37,994 --> 00:22:39,634 Speaker 4: and the pairing of like brown and blue. 505 00:22:39,674 --> 00:22:41,033 Speaker 2: So I agree with you on that. I think that 506 00:22:41,074 --> 00:22:42,434 Speaker 2: color is going to be everywhere this summer. 507 00:22:42,514 --> 00:22:42,754 Speaker 3: Yeah. 508 00:22:42,794 --> 00:22:45,274 Speaker 4: And also like yeah, yellow and like a buddy yellow 509 00:22:45,274 --> 00:22:48,874 Speaker 4: and a light blue kind of feel neutral adjacent what 510 00:22:48,914 --> 00:22:49,634 Speaker 4: you were saying. 511 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:50,594 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. 512 00:22:50,634 --> 00:22:52,553 Speaker 4: They don't really feel like bright pops of colors to me, 513 00:22:52,594 --> 00:22:56,474 Speaker 4: and something that feel like really easily integratable into any 514 00:22:56,514 --> 00:22:57,314 Speaker 4: sort of wardrobe. 515 00:22:57,594 --> 00:22:59,994 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if you have like a chocolate brown bag 516 00:23:00,354 --> 00:23:03,234 Speaker 5: for example. I feel that's like another dark element to 517 00:23:03,234 --> 00:23:05,194 Speaker 5: add to sort of like the light that you're playing with. 518 00:23:05,314 --> 00:23:08,034 Speaker 5: I think, you know, sometimes black can be really harsh, 519 00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:11,714 Speaker 5: and so I think like those browns. Browns still having 520 00:23:11,754 --> 00:23:14,274 Speaker 5: a moment as well this summer. Yeah, I can notice. 521 00:23:14,314 --> 00:23:16,834 Speaker 5: So I love that brown still incorporates and goes with 522 00:23:16,874 --> 00:23:17,474 Speaker 5: those colors. 523 00:23:17,674 --> 00:23:19,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. 524 00:23:19,834 --> 00:23:21,994 Speaker 4: Okay, So I want to talk a little bit about 525 00:23:22,074 --> 00:23:24,434 Speaker 4: your work at Degael. We spoke about it a little 526 00:23:24,474 --> 00:23:27,794 Speaker 4: bit today, but obviously doing content and community management. 527 00:23:28,514 --> 00:23:29,194 Speaker 2: Talk to me a. 528 00:23:29,154 --> 00:23:31,354 Speaker 4: Little bit about the work that you do there and 529 00:23:31,394 --> 00:23:33,074 Speaker 4: also why it's so important to you. 530 00:23:33,714 --> 00:23:36,593 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that goes back to the founding fifty. I 531 00:23:36,634 --> 00:23:38,754 Speaker 5: was a part of that Facebook group and so a 532 00:23:38,794 --> 00:23:41,274 Speaker 5: little bit more about that is they got a bunch 533 00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:43,514 Speaker 5: of women together in this Facebook group before they even 534 00:23:43,594 --> 00:23:45,394 Speaker 5: launched the brand, and I. 535 00:23:45,354 --> 00:23:46,434 Speaker 3: Was actually a part of that group. 536 00:23:46,874 --> 00:23:49,874 Speaker 5: They did like teams meetings where everyone gave feedback, like 537 00:23:50,154 --> 00:23:52,234 Speaker 5: so it was women who were above a size fourteen 538 00:23:52,314 --> 00:23:54,553 Speaker 5: sort of just giving feedback about what we want, what 539 00:23:54,594 --> 00:23:59,834 Speaker 5: we want to see in fashion, and what I guess 540 00:23:59,954 --> 00:24:03,034 Speaker 5: what needs to sort of change in the space. And 541 00:24:03,274 --> 00:24:05,313 Speaker 5: so that really excited me being a part of that 542 00:24:05,354 --> 00:24:07,994 Speaker 5: group and being a part of that process. And you know, 543 00:24:08,314 --> 00:24:11,714 Speaker 5: I didn't think that I like didn't think that it 544 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:15,074 Speaker 5: was going to go anywhere from there. But one day, 545 00:24:15,634 --> 00:24:18,794 Speaker 5: Deguale slid into my DMS and was like, hey, we'd 546 00:24:18,794 --> 00:24:22,234 Speaker 5: love to chat to you further. So I sort of 547 00:24:22,274 --> 00:24:24,313 Speaker 5: met with them and they're saying, look, we're looking for 548 00:24:24,394 --> 00:24:27,154 Speaker 5: someone to sort of champion our brand and be that 549 00:24:27,234 --> 00:24:29,634 Speaker 5: face of the community, because I do, like we do 550 00:24:29,714 --> 00:24:31,714 Speaker 5: have a bit of a community online in that sort 551 00:24:31,714 --> 00:24:35,194 Speaker 5: of curve space, and they just wanted someone to sort 552 00:24:35,194 --> 00:24:38,793 Speaker 5: of champion that, and so I feel it's almost like 553 00:24:38,834 --> 00:24:41,434 Speaker 5: sort of like an ambassador for the brand as well, 554 00:24:41,554 --> 00:24:44,634 Speaker 5: Like when I come online, like people sort of relate 555 00:24:44,674 --> 00:24:47,154 Speaker 5: to that, so it's sort of like that community, that's 556 00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:49,754 Speaker 5: where that sense of community comes from. So when I 557 00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:51,874 Speaker 5: joined the team, they were looking for someone to sort 558 00:24:51,914 --> 00:24:55,314 Speaker 5: of manage the socials and obviously, with my content create 559 00:24:55,354 --> 00:24:57,434 Speaker 5: a background as well. I sort of brought that to 560 00:24:57,514 --> 00:24:59,793 Speaker 5: the table, so I get to have a lot of 561 00:24:59,794 --> 00:25:03,434 Speaker 5: fun in that space. So obviously there's all the admin work, 562 00:25:03,474 --> 00:25:05,674 Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff, but I think my main 563 00:25:05,994 --> 00:25:09,994 Speaker 5: role there is like that community engagement and also that 564 00:25:10,034 --> 00:25:12,994 Speaker 5: content creation piece. So I love We just recently did 565 00:25:13,674 --> 00:25:15,594 Speaker 5: the holiday hotline and we got like this old. 566 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:20,154 Speaker 3: Vintage phone and everything, so I get to be really creative. 567 00:25:19,154 --> 00:25:21,714 Speaker 5: With that and I just absolutely love that element of 568 00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:25,314 Speaker 5: it because I am a very creative person at Hearts, 569 00:25:25,394 --> 00:25:28,674 Speaker 5: So that's like my main role there is creating content, 570 00:25:28,754 --> 00:25:32,354 Speaker 5: creating like maybe like strategies as well, so like marketing 571 00:25:32,394 --> 00:25:35,194 Speaker 5: strategies or I also like I think I like. 572 00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:37,754 Speaker 3: To like really I wear many hats, yep. 573 00:25:37,674 --> 00:25:40,313 Speaker 5: I wear many hats because I even help like with 574 00:25:40,474 --> 00:25:43,353 Speaker 5: design feedback, and I love that too, So I'm very 575 00:25:43,474 --> 00:25:45,474 Speaker 5: much involved. It's a very like tight knit team. 576 00:25:45,994 --> 00:25:48,273 Speaker 4: And I guess you talked about you come from a 577 00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:51,994 Speaker 4: content creation background being in that sort of industry yourself 578 00:25:52,034 --> 00:25:54,273 Speaker 4: and doing that for your own personal brand. How does 579 00:25:54,314 --> 00:25:57,234 Speaker 4: that sort of affect how you create content for a 580 00:25:57,274 --> 00:25:58,914 Speaker 4: brand like de Gaeale, for example. 581 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:02,434 Speaker 5: I think what I love is I don't feel like 582 00:26:02,474 --> 00:26:04,954 Speaker 5: they let me just be myself as well, and so 583 00:26:05,034 --> 00:26:08,033 Speaker 5: we're like we've created a few funny TikTok and I 584 00:26:08,074 --> 00:26:09,994 Speaker 5: think it's really like, I think it's fun that they 585 00:26:10,074 --> 00:26:13,154 Speaker 5: let me just be my own personality in that space 586 00:26:13,194 --> 00:26:15,874 Speaker 5: as well. And a lot of my content is very similar, 587 00:26:15,914 --> 00:26:18,954 Speaker 5: like in terms of like how I create content is 588 00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:21,234 Speaker 5: very similar for the brand and for my own personal 589 00:26:21,274 --> 00:26:24,194 Speaker 5: brand too in terms of like, you know, how we 590 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:26,394 Speaker 5: do like the close up shots and all these beautiful 591 00:26:26,474 --> 00:26:29,754 Speaker 5: like visuals in sort of the videos and things. 592 00:26:29,794 --> 00:26:32,114 Speaker 3: So I think it's. 593 00:26:31,994 --> 00:26:34,794 Speaker 4: Very like, very much similar being someone who works in 594 00:26:34,914 --> 00:26:37,674 Speaker 4: content creation and fashion, you're sort of in the space 595 00:26:37,674 --> 00:26:40,114 Speaker 4: where you're always seeing kind of what brands are doing. 596 00:26:40,554 --> 00:26:42,794 Speaker 4: What are the brands that you think are doing really 597 00:26:42,834 --> 00:26:46,114 Speaker 4: well when it comes to size inclusivity, whether that's to 598 00:26:46,154 --> 00:26:50,234 Speaker 4: do with representation and campaigns or talking about stocking white 599 00:26:50,634 --> 00:26:52,954 Speaker 4: range of sizes. What are the brands that you think 600 00:26:52,994 --> 00:26:54,834 Speaker 4: are like really at the forefront and doing it well. 601 00:26:55,034 --> 00:26:57,513 Speaker 3: I think at the moment, I see a lot the 602 00:26:57,634 --> 00:26:58,394 Speaker 3: Lalla Bi Club. 603 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:00,074 Speaker 2: I love the very Yeah. 604 00:27:00,434 --> 00:27:03,714 Speaker 5: I think they always sort of using diverse models. I 605 00:27:03,754 --> 00:27:07,034 Speaker 5: see that fate the label as well. I think you'll 606 00:27:07,274 --> 00:27:10,994 Speaker 5: see sort of that diversity in their campaigns or in 607 00:27:11,034 --> 00:27:14,354 Speaker 5: their modeling too. And I just recently saw Booty do 608 00:27:14,434 --> 00:27:16,634 Speaker 5: a big campaign and I thought it was beautiful and 609 00:27:16,674 --> 00:27:19,954 Speaker 5: I loved the diversity there as well. So that's like 610 00:27:20,034 --> 00:27:21,714 Speaker 5: from brands that I sort of had my eyes on 611 00:27:21,794 --> 00:27:24,634 Speaker 5: because you know, I follow them because they stock my size. 612 00:27:24,994 --> 00:27:27,714 Speaker 5: But that's something that's always coming up on my feet 613 00:27:27,754 --> 00:27:29,513 Speaker 5: and it brings me a lot of joy when I 614 00:27:29,594 --> 00:27:29,954 Speaker 5: see that. 615 00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,954 Speaker 4: Yeah, And obviously there's been a lot of change in 616 00:27:33,114 --> 00:27:35,794 Speaker 4: the industry over the years, whether that be fast enough 617 00:27:35,874 --> 00:27:38,714 Speaker 4: or not, there's been progress, at least over the last 618 00:27:38,754 --> 00:27:41,794 Speaker 4: several years. What do you think, though, is the biggest 619 00:27:41,834 --> 00:27:45,474 Speaker 4: misconception when it comes to fashion currently. 620 00:27:45,434 --> 00:27:48,154 Speaker 5: There's this misconception that all women don't want to participate 621 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:50,274 Speaker 5: in a trend or don't want to sort of wear 622 00:27:50,314 --> 00:27:53,234 Speaker 5: what someone else who you know is a size ten 623 00:27:53,354 --> 00:27:55,674 Speaker 5: might be wearing. Like for me, I'm like, I want 624 00:27:55,714 --> 00:27:58,194 Speaker 5: I want a sequence skirt, like I don't mind showing 625 00:27:58,194 --> 00:27:58,994 Speaker 5: a bit of my legs. 626 00:27:58,994 --> 00:27:59,074 Speaker 2: Like. 627 00:27:59,114 --> 00:28:01,914 Speaker 5: I think that's probably like the biggest misconception, and I 628 00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:04,114 Speaker 5: think like that's not only just in the fashion industry. 629 00:28:04,194 --> 00:28:07,273 Speaker 5: I think like even individuals have a long way to 630 00:28:07,314 --> 00:28:09,874 Speaker 5: go in their own confidence because for so many years 631 00:28:10,154 --> 00:28:13,073 Speaker 5: they haven't I guess, had that representation, and so they 632 00:28:13,154 --> 00:28:16,874 Speaker 5: might be a little bit scared to participate in those 633 00:28:16,914 --> 00:28:20,634 Speaker 5: trends or dress a certain way because of maybe how 634 00:28:20,914 --> 00:28:23,474 Speaker 5: they think that it's going to be perceived or things 635 00:28:23,554 --> 00:28:26,434 Speaker 5: like that. So I think that's probably like the biggest, 636 00:28:26,994 --> 00:28:29,154 Speaker 5: the biggest one, and I think, yeah, it still has 637 00:28:29,194 --> 00:28:31,034 Speaker 5: a lot of there has been a lot of progress, 638 00:28:31,074 --> 00:28:33,234 Speaker 5: as we said, but I think they do a lot 639 00:28:33,274 --> 00:28:33,513 Speaker 5: to do. 640 00:28:33,714 --> 00:28:34,234 Speaker 3: Yeah. 641 00:28:34,554 --> 00:28:38,074 Speaker 5: So I think visibility and having more sort of like 642 00:28:39,274 --> 00:28:41,794 Speaker 5: bodies in campaigns and things like that is just going 643 00:28:41,834 --> 00:28:44,474 Speaker 5: to help people to sort of really own their personal 644 00:28:44,954 --> 00:28:47,794 Speaker 5: style as well and feel that they can sort of 645 00:28:47,874 --> 00:28:49,434 Speaker 5: like not have to be in one box. 646 00:28:49,554 --> 00:28:49,794 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:28:49,874 --> 00:28:51,994 Speaker 4: I mean that's the importance of representation is sometimes you 648 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:53,874 Speaker 4: have to see it to know something as possible. 649 00:28:53,994 --> 00:28:54,194 Speaker 2: Yeah. 650 00:28:54,194 --> 00:28:56,394 Speaker 4: I think when you grow up not seeing any representation 651 00:28:56,474 --> 00:29:00,074 Speaker 4: with yourself in the media and campaigns and fashion, it's. 652 00:28:59,914 --> 00:29:02,794 Speaker 2: Not something you even know you can try, you know. Yeah. 653 00:29:02,834 --> 00:29:06,114 Speaker 4: So what are some of the changes that you would 654 00:29:06,154 --> 00:29:08,994 Speaker 4: personally like to see moving forward in the fashion industry? 655 00:29:08,994 --> 00:29:11,274 Speaker 4: Obviously we've talked about there being progress and that the 656 00:29:11,274 --> 00:29:13,634 Speaker 4: fact that there's more to be done. What's one thing 657 00:29:13,674 --> 00:29:15,834 Speaker 4: that you just would really like to see change. 658 00:29:16,234 --> 00:29:18,434 Speaker 3: I think just general accessibility. 659 00:29:18,954 --> 00:29:21,194 Speaker 5: I think you know that there is even the element 660 00:29:21,314 --> 00:29:25,034 Speaker 5: of maybe a price point not being accessible, so maybe 661 00:29:25,114 --> 00:29:27,234 Speaker 5: there has to be more brands that do sort of 662 00:29:27,234 --> 00:29:30,634 Speaker 5: offer I guess an accessible price point, like I know 663 00:29:30,714 --> 00:29:32,914 Speaker 5: you do have your brands like your Target and things 664 00:29:32,954 --> 00:29:35,514 Speaker 5: like that, So I think it'd be really important for 665 00:29:36,034 --> 00:29:39,874 Speaker 5: those sorts of brands to sort of look into, I 666 00:29:39,874 --> 00:29:44,114 Speaker 5: guess being a little bit more explorative with their styles. 667 00:29:44,154 --> 00:29:45,554 Speaker 3: I think Target do it really well. 668 00:29:45,594 --> 00:29:47,434 Speaker 5: I think Target's one of my favorite sort of like 669 00:29:47,514 --> 00:29:50,754 Speaker 5: more budget brands. But I think there's definitely space to 670 00:29:50,834 --> 00:29:53,554 Speaker 5: sort of include be more inclusive, not only in size, 671 00:29:53,554 --> 00:29:55,434 Speaker 5: which I know we've talked about a bit, but also 672 00:29:55,554 --> 00:29:59,034 Speaker 5: just in sort of accessibility in all aspects so and 673 00:29:59,114 --> 00:30:02,474 Speaker 5: even just mindful in sort of designs as well and 674 00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:03,714 Speaker 5: wear ability and. 675 00:30:03,554 --> 00:30:04,194 Speaker 3: Things like that. 676 00:30:04,274 --> 00:30:06,514 Speaker 5: Like there's a few different sort of things that I 677 00:30:06,514 --> 00:30:08,034 Speaker 5: think sort of that improvement. 678 00:30:08,234 --> 00:30:09,634 Speaker 3: Yeah there as well, and. 679 00:30:09,634 --> 00:30:12,834 Speaker 4: Like being able to access trends at all different price points. 680 00:30:12,874 --> 00:30:14,114 Speaker 2: I think that's important. For sure. 681 00:30:25,674 --> 00:30:27,114 Speaker 3: It's very expensive. 682 00:30:27,914 --> 00:30:31,754 Speaker 4: How mud are these twenty five percent before we finish up? 683 00:30:32,154 --> 00:30:34,914 Speaker 4: Something we do every time on the pod is bougie 684 00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:35,994 Speaker 4: and budget Yep. 685 00:30:36,154 --> 00:30:38,714 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I am in my 686 00:30:39,034 --> 00:30:39,714 Speaker 5: budget era. 687 00:30:39,914 --> 00:30:42,634 Speaker 2: Okay, love that for you literally, Like. 688 00:30:42,714 --> 00:30:44,794 Speaker 5: I do have bougie things that are on like my 689 00:30:44,874 --> 00:30:47,154 Speaker 5: wish list, but I think there's nothing personally that I 690 00:30:47,194 --> 00:30:49,914 Speaker 5: have purchased for myself that is on like a real 691 00:30:49,954 --> 00:30:53,034 Speaker 5: bougie price tag. Okay, but if I if I if 692 00:30:53,194 --> 00:30:55,354 Speaker 5: I could, and just tomorrow, like no question. 693 00:30:55,594 --> 00:30:55,794 Speaker 2: Yep. 694 00:30:55,914 --> 00:31:00,834 Speaker 5: There's this pair of mesh mules from a brand I'm 695 00:31:00,874 --> 00:31:01,994 Speaker 5: probably gonna butcher. 696 00:31:01,754 --> 00:31:06,834 Speaker 3: It is a liar. Yep, yeah, yep, lay them. Love them. 697 00:31:07,274 --> 00:31:09,634 Speaker 5: It's like a choppy burgundy sort of color. Yeah, I 698 00:31:09,754 --> 00:31:12,274 Speaker 5: love them and love that. I saw a photo of them. 699 00:31:12,274 --> 00:31:14,194 Speaker 5: I have been dreaming of them, so that would probably 700 00:31:14,234 --> 00:31:15,474 Speaker 5: be my beugie pick. 701 00:31:15,594 --> 00:31:18,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, Alaya's got incredible shoes. Nothing I can afford. 702 00:31:19,194 --> 00:31:20,114 Speaker 2: We can dream from a far. 703 00:31:20,474 --> 00:31:23,234 Speaker 5: I'm with you, but I'm like, they're beautiful. But there's 704 00:31:23,274 --> 00:31:26,034 Speaker 5: definitely I've seen Jupes. I have seen Jupes like, so 705 00:31:26,074 --> 00:31:29,274 Speaker 5: it's definitely something that Ye is definitely budget friendly if 706 00:31:29,314 --> 00:31:29,834 Speaker 5: you sort of. 707 00:31:29,874 --> 00:31:31,474 Speaker 2: Want to go there, but you can find jubes. 708 00:31:31,514 --> 00:31:32,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, love that. 709 00:31:32,594 --> 00:31:34,394 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do my bougie and then we can move 710 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:35,194 Speaker 2: on to budget. 711 00:31:35,714 --> 00:31:39,154 Speaker 4: So my bougie not actually that bougie, but Dish has 712 00:31:39,274 --> 00:31:43,234 Speaker 4: this chocolate silk skirt, so like silk, I think perfect 713 00:31:43,594 --> 00:31:46,394 Speaker 4: for summer. We talked about natural fibers and how breathable 714 00:31:46,394 --> 00:31:49,394 Speaker 4: they are. This one's around two hundred and twenty nine dollars. 715 00:31:49,434 --> 00:31:52,714 Speaker 4: Really beautiful, really wearable, I'm a real chocolate brown kind 716 00:31:52,754 --> 00:31:54,234 Speaker 4: of girl, and we talked a little b about how 717 00:31:54,274 --> 00:31:57,634 Speaker 4: that's still really trending this summer. So that's one that 718 00:31:57,914 --> 00:31:59,794 Speaker 4: I will be buying and adding to my wardrobe. And 719 00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:02,514 Speaker 4: a silk skirt is just so versatile, even not during 720 00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:05,434 Speaker 4: summer winter, for really any sort of season. 721 00:32:05,434 --> 00:32:06,754 Speaker 2: It's something that goes with everything. 722 00:32:06,874 --> 00:32:09,554 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, Like in come winter, you'll see me 723 00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:12,754 Speaker 5: wearing my silk or satin skirts with blazers. 724 00:32:12,714 --> 00:32:14,434 Speaker 2: Yes, even jumpers over topes. 725 00:32:14,514 --> 00:32:17,834 Speaker 4: So ersatile. Yeh Okay, do you want to do your budget? 726 00:32:19,034 --> 00:32:23,554 Speaker 5: Yeah, my budget at the moment. One of my favorite 727 00:32:23,634 --> 00:32:27,794 Speaker 5: shoe brands is Therapy Shoes, so I find that they 728 00:32:27,874 --> 00:32:29,394 Speaker 5: sort of dip in those trends. So if you are 729 00:32:29,394 --> 00:32:32,554 Speaker 5: liking those sort of kitten heels, thomb sandals, things like that, 730 00:32:32,714 --> 00:32:34,914 Speaker 5: they are nailing it with the colors and everything at 731 00:32:34,914 --> 00:32:37,314 Speaker 5: the moment. So if you're sort of again looking for 732 00:32:37,354 --> 00:32:41,434 Speaker 5: that budget friendly footwear brand, I think Therapy is fantastic. 733 00:32:41,474 --> 00:32:41,954 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. 734 00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:44,474 Speaker 4: Owned so many pairs of Therapy shoes really affordable and 735 00:32:44,594 --> 00:32:46,834 Speaker 4: really hold up well. Yes, I've got pairs that I've 736 00:32:46,874 --> 00:32:50,474 Speaker 4: had for years. Yeah, I love that brand. Okay, my budget. 737 00:32:50,514 --> 00:32:53,674 Speaker 4: We talked about Lalla by Club. Mine is a sun 738 00:32:53,714 --> 00:32:56,874 Speaker 4: hat forty nine ninety five. It's kind of a gingham 739 00:32:57,034 --> 00:32:59,514 Speaker 4: print hat. It's got these too little I don't know 740 00:32:59,554 --> 00:33:01,074 Speaker 4: what you call these ribbons. 741 00:33:00,714 --> 00:33:01,154 Speaker 2: On the side. 742 00:33:01,754 --> 00:33:03,714 Speaker 4: I think a hat is such a summer staple and 743 00:33:03,754 --> 00:33:06,314 Speaker 4: it's so underrated because it's something you need every weekend 744 00:33:06,314 --> 00:33:08,554 Speaker 4: you go out. Pop it one for sun protection, but 745 00:33:08,594 --> 00:33:10,994 Speaker 4: too just for like fashion. I think it's a fun 746 00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:12,714 Speaker 4: way to add a little interest, a. 747 00:33:12,714 --> 00:33:13,594 Speaker 2: Little pop of color. 748 00:33:13,674 --> 00:33:16,234 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels like a fashion girly item you 749 00:33:16,234 --> 00:33:16,714 Speaker 4: can throw on. 750 00:33:17,674 --> 00:33:18,434 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's mine. 751 00:33:18,474 --> 00:33:20,634 Speaker 4: I feel like that's one that it's not too expensive 752 00:33:20,674 --> 00:33:22,274 Speaker 4: that you can pick up that I feel like you would, yeah, 753 00:33:22,594 --> 00:33:24,034 Speaker 4: kind of all through the summer. 754 00:33:24,114 --> 00:33:24,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, gorgeous. 755 00:33:24,834 --> 00:33:26,914 Speaker 5: I love that I have a few of those sort 756 00:33:26,914 --> 00:33:29,954 Speaker 5: of straw hats things like that, Like I can't go 757 00:33:30,034 --> 00:33:31,994 Speaker 5: to the beach without it, Like I do not want 758 00:33:32,034 --> 00:33:36,154 Speaker 5: sunburn on my scalp, no, thank you, yeah guy, literally literally, 759 00:33:36,154 --> 00:33:38,474 Speaker 5: And it's hard. Like I know there are SPF brands 760 00:33:38,474 --> 00:33:41,074 Speaker 5: out there that you can spray your scalp, but your 761 00:33:41,114 --> 00:33:42,074 Speaker 5: hat is your sure way. 762 00:33:42,274 --> 00:33:44,674 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, and I love that, like larger brim 763 00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:47,314 Speaker 4: hats are now really trendy and in again. 764 00:33:47,674 --> 00:33:49,514 Speaker 3: So oh I love that. 765 00:33:49,714 --> 00:33:52,474 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you so much, Thank you so much for 766 00:33:52,514 --> 00:33:55,554 Speaker 4: having this was so much fun and we've really enjoyed 767 00:33:55,554 --> 00:33:57,994 Speaker 4: getting all of your tips and tricks and just really 768 00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:00,434 Speaker 4: hearing about your journey and fashion and in your career. 769 00:34:01,154 --> 00:34:02,354 Speaker 2: That's all we have time for today. 770 00:34:02,434 --> 00:34:04,434 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Wear, 771 00:34:04,674 --> 00:34:06,274 Speaker 4: and don't forget to sign up to our Nothing to 772 00:34:06,314 --> 00:34:08,913 Speaker 4: Earn newsletter a link in the show notes, and don't 773 00:34:08,953 --> 00:34:10,873 Speaker 4: forget to watch us on YouTube and follow us on 774 00:34:10,913 --> 00:34:12,473 Speaker 4: Instagram at Nothing to Wear Pod. 775 00:34:12,674 --> 00:34:15,754 Speaker 2: We'll be back soon. Bye mo. 776 00:34:15,954 --> 00:34:18,354 Speaker 4: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have 777 00:34:18,474 --> 00:34:21,634 Speaker 4: recorded this podcast on the Gadigal people of the Urination, 778 00:34:22,114 --> 00:34:24,514 Speaker 4: who pay our respects to their elders past and present, 779 00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:27,314 Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait 780 00:34:27,314 --> 00:34:28,154 Speaker 4: Islander cultures