WEBVTT - Drunk Parenting Advice With Kel

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<v Speaker 1>We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>on today. Does that make me petty? It awful potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>but does it make me feel better astronomically? Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Eat Sleeve, Shit Repeat, the Wildly Unhinged podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>the madness that is motherhood and everything in between. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly McCarran, and I am writing solo and rule dogging

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of this episode because I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a script. This episode is called Drunk Parenting Advice

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<v Speaker 1>with Kel. I've got a large glass of presex. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to go in for a while. Can hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hear it twinkling around? And I screenshotted a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>the anonymous questions people want, I guess, unhinged advice to

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<v Speaker 1>all their dilemmas, which you know, to be fair. When

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<v Speaker 1>I say like drunk parenting advice or drunk advice, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more just like, I'm not going to try to be

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<v Speaker 1>really all darling. It's more brutal, big sister, drunk aunt

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<v Speaker 1>vibes advice. I like to say, let's get straight into

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<v Speaker 1>the questions. I just screenshotted a bunch of them and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just answer them until I'm like, whoa, this

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<v Speaker 1>has been going for far too long, or I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>hissed that i can't go out for dinner because We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go out for dinner after this. So she

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<v Speaker 1>who bottoms up? My sister's best friend told me everything

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<v Speaker 1>my sister says about me to her, and it's not nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I confront my sister? If so? How I have

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<v Speaker 1>been stewing on this for months? Oh my goodness and normous.

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<v Speaker 1>That sucks so bad. But the person in the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation is actually your sister's best friend. Your

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<v Speaker 1>sister's best friend sucks, Like, how very dare she tell

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<v Speaker 1>you information that your sister aka her best friend has

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<v Speaker 1>told her in confidence. I'm sorry, but unless it was

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<v Speaker 1>a crime or something that literally cannot be forgiven, which

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<v Speaker 1>I highly doubt it was, I think she's just said

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<v Speaker 1>something obviously like quite hurtful, which is awful, But she

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<v Speaker 1>should never have regaled that information to you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it just says a lot about your sister's best friend. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the one that is winning because your best

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<v Speaker 1>friend isn't such a dud. I would never tell like

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<v Speaker 1>a friend's sister things that my friend had said to

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<v Speaker 1>me when they were just having a little vent or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And as if my sister has not called me some

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<v Speaker 1>awful things to some of her friends when she hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been a vent like I think that you totally should

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation with your sister, But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should go in all guns blazing about what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should just say, hey, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what so and so, let's just call her

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra has said to me that you said to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and what the fuck? Like ouch? But also she needs

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<v Speaker 1>to know that her best friend's a piece of shit

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<v Speaker 1>like that is just so awful. And I feel kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bad for your sister in this situation because she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a real shitty best friend. Maybe you could, even,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if you're close to both of them,

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<v Speaker 1>have a chat with both of them and really hash

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But I bet at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>your sister doesn't actually think any of those things. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>she was just pissed off at you about something, And

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<v Speaker 1>like anyone that is a regular human being with siblings,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we say things that we absolutely do not mean

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<v Speaker 1>but we just say it out of anger, and we

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<v Speaker 1>trust that the person we're venting to isn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat that. I think that you just need to chat

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<v Speaker 1>to her about it. Also obviously depends on your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with your sister, because I guess maybe you guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>that close, but I feel like sisters should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to chat about anything. So next time you're hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make a huge deal out of it, but definitely

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<v Speaker 1>bring it up and just tell her that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>stewing on it for a few months. Just be really honest,

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<v Speaker 1>because she wouldn't want you to have hurt feelings. She

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want you to be stewing on this unless she's

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<v Speaker 1>also a piece of shit, and then the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them can just rod in hell. Okay, Okay, Next, is

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<v Speaker 1>it worth buying new clothes to fit the boobs? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do I just wait till I stop breastfeeding to look

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<v Speaker 1>cute again? Okay, Well, I'm going to hold you right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you're not cute just because you've got milk ut

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<v Speaker 1>of titties. Okay, milk cut of titties are hot, they're

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<v Speaker 1>so full. Definitely buy a couple of dresses. Don't spend

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<v Speaker 1>heaps of money, but just buy a couple of dresses

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<v Speaker 1>for your new titties that make you feel hot, because

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you are hot just because you're breastfeeding. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, even when your milk comes out and accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>gets all over the dress, still hot. Who cares, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just milk. I think that a full tit full of milk,

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<v Speaker 1>milk of the breast can look quite nice. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like nature's breast job, nature's breast augmentation. If you will,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this question. How do you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>car clean when you have a kid? I swear I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a tidy person, but the car just never cops a clean.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone has a clean car and children, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd get into their car and immediately think they

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<v Speaker 1>are actually just dexter and chopping up bodies for fun

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekend, because they must be a sociopath. If

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<v Speaker 1>there is not a little bit of an odor of

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<v Speaker 1>old vomit, despite cleaning the vomit up, it's still just odorous,

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<v Speaker 1>whether yours or the children. Crumbs everywhere because they snack

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<v Speaker 1>and they are disgusting, and they just crumbs end up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of crackers under the seat. Just cars. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a car loving child, If you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>things everywhere, no matter how much you do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're a tidy person, like I said, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably dexter. Also, I live in my car. My

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<v Speaker 1>car is actually awful. I did clean it last weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, but it still has got crumbs everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>because they get in there, like it needs a professional

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<v Speaker 1>clean to get that shit out. It's kind of disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>and there still is that odor of vomit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's my fault, though not Lenny's. No one has a

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<v Speaker 1>clean car, and if they do, they deck ster. They're

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<v Speaker 1>chopping up people for fun. Thoughts on baby sprinkles, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand when people do a sprinkle. I'm all for

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<v Speaker 1>baby showers for the first baby because it's meant to

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<v Speaker 1>set you up as parents. But I think a sprinkle

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming selfish. Will don't go simple as that don't go? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is self indulgent. Who cares If they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it and they have people that want to go

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<v Speaker 1>and are going to go, then go for gold. And

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<v Speaker 1>they might not be wanting anything as well, Like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if they've got a register for the second baby. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not selfish, but it's a little bit greedy. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're struggling, although in that case they probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be having the sprinkle in which you put food on

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. Maybe they are being a little bit greedy,

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<v Speaker 1>but who cares. Just don't go make up an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>like we all do when we don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to something and let other people who want to go

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<v Speaker 1>or to pussy to make up an excuse, go and

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle the person. It doesn't actually have anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with you, So it doesn't matter if they want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of different hens parties, if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to have sprinkle after sprinkle after sprinkle and have seven kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? It actually isn't about you. Just have an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go got any tips for finding a good balance

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<v Speaker 1>for work slash life Slash admin feels like everything is

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<v Speaker 1>happening at once and I'm hardly surviving. I'm certainly not thriving.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to know life admins a third thing, because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a whole job in itself. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>there is such thing as a really good balance well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I think it takes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work and a lot of organization, which doesn't come naturally

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of us to have a really good balance.

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<v Speaker 1>I would make sure that you and your partner are split.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a partner, if you're not sending godspeed,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no hope for a while. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>really have to lean on the village. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that your partner is taking his share or

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<v Speaker 1>her share of the brunt of the admin and work

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that sort of thing, like, don't turn

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<v Speaker 1>your into a martyr, ask for help. I feel constantly overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel constantly like I'm surviving and not thriving. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so normal. I think that there will be

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<v Speaker 1>stages laiter down the track when we feel like we're thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>but that just isn't our time at the moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also, a friend gave me some really good advice

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago because it was during COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh God, after a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years of really thriving, like the last few years of

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties and very early thirties, I thrived like I

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<v Speaker 1>kicked so many goals personally and professionally. So those years

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<v Speaker 1>I was thriving and then I said, oh, this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I've literally just survived. And she was like, you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, And I think that's really great advice. It's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to survive. You're still doing a great job. And

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<v Speaker 1>just remember that everything that other people appear to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing on social media, it's all bullshit, half of its

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<v Speaker 1>bloody lies, or it's just inflated to look better than

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<v Speaker 1>what it actually is. Like we don't post the really

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<v Speaker 1>rough day or the really rough moments. We'll post even

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<v Speaker 1>if we're prolifically online, it's still a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 1>from a day. And even if you post the bad

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as well, that's still like two minutes out of

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<v Speaker 1>an entire day. You haven't seen the fights with different people.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't seen the heartache from something that happened at work.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't seen the awful meltdown that your child had

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<v Speaker 1>because you wouldn't let them have their third box of Sultana's,

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, that actually did just happen in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not realistic to think that you will be

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<v Speaker 1>on top of everything and really thriving. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's better to just look at like, maybe one week

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<v Speaker 1>out of every couple of months you really thrive, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the week where you nail something professionally. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice girl's dinner locked in, and you finally

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<v Speaker 1>went to the dentist after building it up to be

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<v Speaker 1>this huge job and I hate stupid life. I'd mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to do anything, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the dentist and it's actually not a huge

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<v Speaker 1>deal and you're like, oh, okay, didn't even have any

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<v Speaker 1>cavities and health Healthing Insurance gave me back ninety dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Great happy days. I think that then you will feel

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<v Speaker 1>for that one week that we're thriving. But the expectation

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got small kids that you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be anything but surviving, and that's okay as long as

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<v Speaker 1>we're still trying to enjoy part of those moments of surviving.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's normalize surviving over thriving, especially when we have young

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<v Speaker 1>families and we're so busy with kids, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's unrealistic to expect to be on top of

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<v Speaker 1>anything unless you're like a super organized person and in

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<v Speaker 1>which case sligh, but it's just not realistic for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And I promise you most people aren't absolute

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<v Speaker 1>hot mess. There might just be really good at hiding it.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you enjoy sex with your husband when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a two year old? Well, this person needs to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to last week's episode because I have a three

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<v Speaker 1>year old. At turns out I've never really enjoyed sex

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<v Speaker 1>that much unless I'm tippling it up under the tiple.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll be in luck tonight. Like I just said

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous question, I think we need to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes it's a season, and maybe this is the

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<v Speaker 1>season where you're not having enjoyable hot sex on the rag.

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<v Speaker 1>Like just you've got little kids, two year olds, they

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<v Speaker 1>can be in our beds a lot. We're very tired.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in that awful stage where they don't need naps.

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<v Speaker 1>They do need naps, like, they just don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep as much as the sleep experts say that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to. And you also can't force a human to

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep. I think that listen to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the tips that Tara gave me last week and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>try to implement them if you can relate to that

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<v Speaker 1>chat because I think that they were fantastic and really

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<v Speaker 1>tangible and something that we can all sort of try

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and if it wasn't going to ruin the

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<v Speaker 1>whole safety thing, I almost want to film myself doing

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<v Speaker 1>the centual wave to massive attack while they robed my body,

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<v Speaker 1>because oh my goodness, what a sight that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>My baby is almost one and starting to get clingy.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I make him be less clingy? To me,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. I just don't really have advice for this

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<v Speaker 1>because I literally have the world's clingiest child, or he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there's someone cleaner. But like daycare drop

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<v Speaker 1>off is still a bit of a punish and tease

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<v Speaker 1>three and been going for two years. Hopefully daycare is

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<v Speaker 1>on the horizon or some sort of care so you

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<v Speaker 1>can get that little bit of a break and they

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<v Speaker 1>can get used to having someone else look after them.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to get your partner to step up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through a stage where I would literally hide

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<v Speaker 1>in the car or go just go out at nighttime

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't have to be the only Because the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is when you've got a clingy baby, they generally

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<v Speaker 1>will go to your partner, but only if you're not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they always want you. You are the only option

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<v Speaker 1>to them, so you get lumped with doing everything. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though that's not fair, you should totally take it in

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<v Speaker 1>terms with your partners. You do like the nighttime routine

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing, so I highly advise you

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<v Speaker 1>go and hide in your car or take yourself out

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<v Speaker 1>for beverage. Just go read in the backyard if there's

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere you can hide. It sounds kind of awful, but

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<v Speaker 1>long term, I mean long term, it won't work because

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<v Speaker 1>you still have a clean baby, but it will give

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<v Speaker 1>you a bit of breathing space so you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>touched out and really overwhelmed. Removing yourself from the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>So they only have the other parent. Husband left to

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<v Speaker 1>me when my son was seven weeks old. Woof no

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<v Speaker 1>communications or money, I have no village and my son

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<v Speaker 1>is now two years old at daycare five days but

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<v Speaker 1>won't gel with a babysitter. Do I relinquish, knowing it's

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<v Speaker 1>a phase and come out in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Slash knuckle through question mark. What I would do is

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<v Speaker 1>I would find that absolute fucker and rinse him for

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<v Speaker 1>everything that he is worth. If you've got no idea

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<v Speaker 1>where he is, get on the blower your phone. You

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<v Speaker 1>will find him. I reckon. The queens of the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>will have that bastard found within a few hours. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's Facebook groups like sis is this your man? Or

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<v Speaker 1>tea time. You can post it anonymously as well. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to give your own name away like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you would potentially be connected to him. Post a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of him, saying the story or just saying, hey, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows this guy? Who can tell me where he is?

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<v Speaker 1>Type thing? Need to get into contact with the bastard.

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<v Speaker 1>The queens will have this guy found within a few hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you reach out to him. If he's blocked, you

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<v Speaker 1>contact the bastard's boss, okay, contact his family members, serve

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<v Speaker 1>him with legal letters. If you can't afford it, there's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely free legal aid, or just reach out to his employers,

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<v Speaker 1>like threaten the bastard start just getting so petty and

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<v Speaker 1>rogue on social media. The mature person if key was here,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd probably be like, I think that you should just

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<v Speaker 1>knuckle through and relinquish, knowing it to phase, but absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>This fuck wit doesn't just get to live the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his life a leaving a child. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>certainly don't want him in your child's life anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>not a chance would he ever get custody after fucking

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<v Speaker 1>off for two years. But like sis, get your money.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to help out, Okay, his seamen made the human.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a piece of shit and he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>help you financially. Find the bustard and get into contact

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<v Speaker 1>with his family and his boss. Get the police involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what the legalities are in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like the bastard's doing something very illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that can't be right. And I am really sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have a village and that your child

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<v Speaker 1>won't gel with the babysitter. Hard relate to that. What

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, though, is, depending on what area you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe jump on the eat Sleep Facebook group and just

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's any other shitter out there that would

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<v Speaker 1>love to grab a coffee one day and really try

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<v Speaker 1>to like start expanding your network. Join a netball team,

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<v Speaker 1>take the two year old oh if you know you

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<v Speaker 1>know that jokes from last year, or maybe wishful thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>do those library you know those book things that Key recommends,

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<v Speaker 1>the rhyming, singing things that the library, start making some friends,

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<v Speaker 1>really put yourself out there. We'll link it in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes the episode to how to Make friends, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is really bloody hard when you're an adult. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry that happened to you, and that your

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<v Speaker 1>child's father is such a piece of shit. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't just roll over and take that. However, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>vengeful bitch, So oh my god, I've just realized he

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<v Speaker 1>was your husband. Wow, Okay, that just changes the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly didn't concentrate enough when I was reading that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know these blokes family, you know these blokes

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<v Speaker 1>like workplace, Well, get on LinkedIn and start getting on

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<v Speaker 1>the blower and just absolutely rinsing this bastard because no

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<v Speaker 1>one would be okay with that sort of behavior. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel like it would be easier to parent

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<v Speaker 1>as a single parent. I'm not gonna lie. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every single mother in particular has felt like this before. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably just having a really bad day

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<v Speaker 1>or really bad week. If you are thinking like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to really sit down and actually list out

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing versus what your partner's doing. I know

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it sounds very sexy, but I think it really can

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<v Speaker 1>help if you logistically sort of map out what you're

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<v Speaker 1>both responsible for and make sure that your partner is

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<v Speaker 1>taking their fair share of the work, because they absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>need to express that to your partner and potentially look

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<v Speaker 1>into marriage counseling or partner counseling, couple's counseling. Oh my god, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's a very normal feeling to feel.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just means that you are really stressed and

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<v Speaker 1>really overwhelmed, or maybe you've got a bloke similar to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I just assuming it's a bloke. It's because

0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.359
<v Speaker 1>chicks don't behave like this unless you've got another piece

0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of shit husband, in which case fuck him off, because yeah,

0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.639
<v Speaker 1>you would be better off. This one's so funny. My

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<v Speaker 1>brother and sister in law have a perfect angel baby

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<v Speaker 1>who sleeps fifteen hours a night. We have a terror

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<v Speaker 1>toddler who we still put to sleep with fear and trembling,

0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.960
<v Speaker 1>hard relate. They're very smug about it. Do I tell

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<v Speaker 1>them they got lucky and not actually the next parenting gurus?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I just being a petty tired parent probably

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely call them out. We need to have more humor

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>about these things. I've got a couple of girlfriends with

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<v Speaker 1>angel children, angel babies that just actually are angels, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do my friends sort of think that it's because that

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<v Speaker 1>they followed these parenting books to the tea or they

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<v Speaker 1>just are angel parents potentially, But then a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them are also very realistic about, oh, they just got lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did say to one of my girlfriends when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Wayne Balley, because she was being so

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<v Speaker 1>annoying and smug about her actual angel of a human,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I fucking hope because she wants more. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I hope your next one's a devil. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, Kelly, you can't say that, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I can, Yes, I can. You're being smug and

0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you're being annoying, and it's nothing to do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>The baby's just got a really good temperament. Actually, it

0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.320
<v Speaker 1>probably does have something to do with her, because both

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.159
<v Speaker 1>her and her partner are so lovely and easy going

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and calme. So, yeah, the baby's got their temperament. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, you know what, do it in a

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<v Speaker 1>really light way, because people need to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>joke about this sort of thing, have a sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they do too. I'm sure that they do. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people do. Okay, So are you just being a tired

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<v Speaker 1>and petty parent? Yes, but that's okay. It's annoying when

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>people are smug about things, all right. Also, I love

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people that have really easy babies and children

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<v Speaker 1>that their children are just going to grow up with

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<v Speaker 1>no personality, and that all of the really spirited children

0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>are the people with really big personalities. Does that make

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.600
<v Speaker 1>me petty? It awful? Potentially, But does it make me

0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:53.880
<v Speaker 1>feel better astronomically? What's the worst thing about parenting? So generally,

0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I would say their sicknesses and the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>give everything to you, and then you're expected to look

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<v Speaker 1>after them even though you feel like death warmed up.

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't send them to daycare, even though that's where

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.719
<v Speaker 1>they got it. You've got to keep them home. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay for the daycare, and you don't get

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 1>paid because you're at home with them. And then you're

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<v Speaker 1>dying and it takes them two days to get over

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.959
<v Speaker 1>something and it takes you two weeks, and you're never

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<v Speaker 1>quite the same again with every single sickness. But after today,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I Am going to add to that list?

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<v Speaker 1>The food I hungry? I eat I hungry. Oh, but

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not actually hungry. Literally, before I started recording, there

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.719
<v Speaker 1>was banana bread. There was grapes, There was a muffin,

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.360
<v Speaker 1>There was strawberries. There was those chocolate covered rice crackers.

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.439
<v Speaker 1>There was sultanas. There was an old half eaten popper.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing because it wasn't what he wants to eat. But

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes he doesn't even know what he wants to eat.

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>They want to live off shit, and they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to scream at you. Oh once again, probably only the

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.119
<v Speaker 1>sassy children that have a personality. Yes, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that because it makes me feel better than just

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.399
<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself that I'm an awful mother. Yeah, I

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>would add the whole food thing to the list. I've

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<v Speaker 1>given up in a lot of ways. I don't cook

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that much anymore, stuff specifically for him, because he wasn't

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 1>eating anything, and most of it would end up thrown

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Not it wasn't, that's an exaggeration, but it

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 1>would just be left on the plate. And I'd spend

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<v Speaker 1>so much money and slave so much time and I

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, I simply shall not be doing this. Have

0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:26.400
<v Speaker 1>some baked beans, Fuck the microplastics, fuck the carcinogenics. You'll

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 1>be absolutely fine. If not, everything's giving as cancer, so

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 1>we're all fucked anyway. I'm not sure if I want

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>another baby. I like being able to give my little

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>boy everything and give him all of my attention, and

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I want to split my time between

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>multiple children. But am I being selfish not trying to

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>give him a sibling. Not all siblings are close, and

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that's something that I need to remind myself of all

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the time. But anyone that wants a good excuse or

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 1>a good reason not to have a second child needs

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.199
<v Speaker 1>to come to me. Let's just start a one and

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 1>done club. Okay, maybe that'll be a side project, a

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>side podcast, if you will, where every single week I

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>just got on a big rant for one reason about

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 1>why I think that one child is perfectly sufficient. Okay,

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you the lowdown, which is actually

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking to my auntie about earlier, because

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.679
<v Speaker 1>she was like, will you be having another one? And

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't have that many years left

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 1>for people to be asking me that I understand why

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a question, especially with like close friends and family,

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>but you know, at least in a couple of years,

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.199
<v Speaker 1>they won't ask because they were like, Oh, in a

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>perfect world, would I like to have another baby? Yes?

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>There are some caveats to that. Should I admit this

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>out loud, probably not. Will it get me canceled? Potentially?

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just going to be honest. If I was

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed a girl, I would be more likely to have

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>another one. I know that it doesn't really matter, but

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>it does, Okay. I absolutely love my little boy. I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke a lot about ginger disappointment when I found out

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>that I was pregnant with a boy, and I spoke

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about it, and people said, like, Lenny's going to find

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>this article. Who He's going to find this topic that

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you've spoken about one day? How will do you think

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that he will feel? I don't know. I think that

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>he'll be absolutely fine because there's not a chance that

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that little shit head's not going to know just how

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>loved he is. He is so loved, like he could

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>not possibly be more loved, and I am so obsessed

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.719
<v Speaker 1>with him, and I can't actually imagine having any other child.

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You've also got to paint like, I don't know the

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>next child that I have, so I don't love them yet.

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So when I'm thinking about this hypothetical child, I don't

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.159
<v Speaker 1>know that child yet, so I'm just thinking about another

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 1>lunatic toddler boy that I don't know, and I do

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>not want that person in my house. Yes, of course

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I would actually love them, and yes, of course I

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>would listen back to this conversation if I had another

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>boy and go, you're a lunatic. You are obsessed with

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>your children. But if I'm thinking about it from the

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.479
<v Speaker 1>perspective and context of where I am at at the moment,

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I do not want to live with more boys in

0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:00.160
<v Speaker 1>this house. And the ma gen only brew boys. Okay,

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 1>they only do boys. I did like this Instagram post.

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I can try to find it to share about like

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>my pros and cons list having more children last year,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was really interesting because a lot

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 1>of people gave their perspective and gave their advice, and

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people like, you're being a bit selfish

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>because all of your reasoning is very short term, so

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>say within the next five years. And I thought that

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that was so valid, But then I spent six months

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>out of last year thinking that I could literally die

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 1>at the drop of a hat because I had a

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>bomb in my brain, and it really changed things for me,

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>because we are so presumptuous that, you know, when we

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>think about having more children, it's because we want a

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>really big family and we want a big you know,

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>a really full table at Christmas or whatnot. And you know,

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, you need to think about what your

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>life is going to look like when you're sixty, not now.

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's very presumptuous to just assume that we're going

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to get to sixty to eighty, to whatever age we've

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>got in our mind that when we think of the future, Actually,

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>five years is a very long time to be miserable,

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>if not miserable, Okay that's a bit of a stretch,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>but to have huge periods of misery. I thought that

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the validity of everyone saying not everyone, but a lot

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of people saying all of your reasons is so short term,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like think about the long term pros, yes, but long

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>term isn't guaranteed, and I also want to enjoy the

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>short term. Well, like I said, I'm very pro one

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>and done. Come and talk to me about it. At

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>any time, you're not selfish as long as you make

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>sure that your child has lots of time with other children.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It did break my heart finally enough this morning when

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>he said, why don't I have a brother? And I

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, there is not one day that goes

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>by or maybe you know, if he's really sick, where

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a playdate of some sort with another child.

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>His life is so full of other little kids. No,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>they're not siblings, but you're not guaranteed to get along

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with your siblings. And me and my siblings did not

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 1>get along when we were kids. Well we did, I

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>guess when we're really little before like the Dickens, when

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 1>we were growing up, literal punch ups. And then yes,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>as adults we're really close, but that's not guaranteed. I'm

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>very lucky. You're not selfish. You well, maybe you are,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>but you've got to be selfish because no one else

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to put you first, so you have to.

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's totally okay to want to give you a

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>kid all of your attention, everything you've got, because also,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>having children is really expensive. I do not know how

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>people have so many children if they live like in

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>an expensive era. I mean everywhere is expensive these days.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Resenting husband who gets to go to work is real.

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a freelancer, so I can't replace his income consistently,

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but I want to work dot or dot ideas. This

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>is where a lot of people go wrong, I think,

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>because they think of his versus her, like you're putting

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>your two salaries together and just going who earns more,

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>without really that both of you chose to have that baby,

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>so both of you should be paying for the childcare,

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and both of you should get to go to work.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not actually just about the money. So let's

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>just say your partner's like, oh, you can't replace my income,

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>so you'll just have to stay at home and the baby. No, no,

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>put the baby in daycare or get some sort of

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>help for the I don't know how old this baby

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>is or child is, and both of you equally pay

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>for it and then you both go to work Like

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>that just seems so silly that it's very common, but

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people are really thinking about it through

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>because it's also your career, so your future earning potential

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>that is impacted by the decision to stay home long term.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>If you want to, then that is fantastic. Stay home

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>as long as you want. But if you want to work,

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>go work like. Your partner's going to have to sort

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that out with his boss because just because you earn

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>less doesn't mean that it's not a priority. Or your

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>partner needs to be home by a certain hour every

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>day and then you can go out for a few

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>hours and do your work. Because you're freelance like, you

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>need to come up with some sort of compromise because

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely not fair that you're looking at it from

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the perspective, Oh, he earns more, so he gets to

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>go to work. No, both of you chose to have

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that baby. Both of you have careers. You never know

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>with freelance work. Yes, the tough times can be tougher,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>but the higher times can be higher. So you know what,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>work your ass off, start earning more and then make

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>him be a stay at home daddy and see how

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>he likes it. I love being with my children, but

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I hate playing with them. How can I learn to

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>love it? Once again? This is like such a you've

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just seen on social media or seen in pop culture

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're supposed to love it. You're absolutely not turn

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it into something that you want to do. Though, Okay,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if we just did what Lenny wants to do all

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the time, I would absolutely not love it. I've created

0:28:55.680 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>games that I enjoy that then he enjoys doing kids.

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're doing it with them, they're pretty happy. We

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>clean the walls sometimes, if the walls like, we do

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>chores around the house. I don't really want to do

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that either, but they need to be done. We turn

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>everything into a game. You might put some fun music on.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>We do adult puzzles instead of children's puzzles. He doesn't care.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I try to get pretty pictures that he likes. Like

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we're doing one at the moment. There's a boat, there's

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>heaps of cool pretty flowers, there's heaps of animals. So no,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not like a fifty piece or patrol puzzle, but

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a huge one and then it's like a big

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>accomplishment where we get to finish it together. Also, just

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>realize that it's not all about you, like, get them

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to do some stuff, and then sometimes you do have

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to play with them. But yeah, games that you like.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I love playing Lego because I find it really fun.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>It's very annoying when he tries to come and help

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>me with my house. I'm like, no, no, you play

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>over there. I really like to color. I love craft.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>So just pick and choose the things that you play

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with them with the things that you love, and then

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>every now and then play something like I don't know

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hard and go seek that you don't want to, or

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>bloody cars. I can't stand just pretending to push them.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I don't like playing. My two year

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>old is unhinged and his big feelings are off the charts.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty two weeks pregnant. How do I keep my

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>cool and employ good parenting techniques while absolutely exhausted. Well,

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you always need to keep your cool.

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is a silly, silly myth that

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>social media and parenting experts have taught us. And then

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>we feel really bad because we do lose our shits.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>What I do now I try to think about what

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>percent of the time I've lost my shit, and if

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a really small percent, I'm like, you did a

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>good job today. You did a good job. It is

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>very hard to deal with small people with such big feelings,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and I can't imagine how hard it is when you're pregnant,

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>probably not enjoying being pregnant. I don't know that many

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>people that do. Take a breath. Make sure that you're

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>having enough space by yourself and space with other people

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that aren't your toddler, because yeah, that shit is absolutely rough,

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>but be a little bit kind to yourself. You're doing

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the best that you can. How to stop two year

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>old from spitting my my min This was sent in

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to someone that I think that they had a lot

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>more faith in my parenting advice. What do you mean

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>your child is spitting like? Are they an alpacker? Are

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they or alarm or whatever it is that just goes

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>or are they doing like a in which case I

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's probably pretty normal. I don't know that one.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I really can't help with, no idea, no idea. It's

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of to me. Yes, it's of course a rude

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>thing to be doing to strangers, but apart from being

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit gross, it's kind of funny. I don't

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>know how to transition toddler out of cot into single

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>bed because he's climbing out of KOT. He will just

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>walk out if he doesn't want to sleep, As I

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>think I mentioned this earlier in the episode. It's so

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy that like there's these sleep experts that make me

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like shit because they're like, oh, you're toddler needs

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to still be having least twelve hours of sleep in

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four hour period, so if they're not napping overnight,

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, sorry, what now? You cannot force someone

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to sleep that doesn't want to sleep, Like you can

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>force them to sit in a very dark room with

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you with the sounds on, with no stimuli, and yes,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>eventually they will go to sleep because they are so

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>tired after screaming their absolute head off. But yeah, you

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>can't like just hold your child's eyes shut and hold

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>them down with one arm and hope to God that

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they go to sleep. Some kids are really good sleepers,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're really good with disciplines. You say, hey, go

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to bed, it's bedtime, and they'll just go to bed.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I still don't think that they probably are just falling asleep.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're just playing with their toys quietly in bed,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they are, but then they probably have high

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>sleep needs or they're just more disciplined children. I have

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a best friend that literally tells her three kids two,

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>four and seven to go to bed, and they just

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>at six thirty every night and they just go to bed,

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>do as they're told. And I think my Momi, my

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>kid didn't have an app and I was still battling

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>with him at nine pm. If they're climbing out of

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the cot, I would put them back in a snug sleepsack,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>especially as we're going into the colder months, because the

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sleep sack stops them from being able to get out

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>of the cot, and that will stop them y eating

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>themselves out of the cot. Otherwise, Yeah, you really can't

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>force them to stay in bed. Do you love your

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle or do you want more? Oh? Don't we always

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>want more? Isn't that what life is about? Always driving

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.719
<v Speaker 1>for the next big thing. I'm pretty happy with my

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle though, and I know that I'm very lucky. I

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 1>have such a good group. I've got real good girlfriends,

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have the luxury because I only have one kid,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and I guess because my finances allow that I can

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>go out with them quite regularly, like I always at

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>least one dinner a week with girlfriends, which I know

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>is very unrealistic for a lot of people, which is

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>why I said I'm very lucky. That's the sort of

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>thing that keeps me so sane though. That's why I

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's so important. I love netball. I love that

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I live so close to my sister and she's got

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>kids the same age. Yes, and now that Lenny's that

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit older and more independent, I really love that

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I can do things like go to Bali for a

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>long weekend because Bali is my favorite place in the

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>entire world. So yes, I love my lifestyle. Yes, I

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of course want more, namely a little bit more space

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>in a house. But yeah, I think that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that question means. Okay, next question, no village. I have

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<v Speaker 1>endo and fatigue, need IVF to conceive thirty six years old,

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the fence whether to try to conceive baby

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<v Speaker 1>number two if it's even a possibility. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>three year old miracle already. Oh, I'm probably the wrong

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>person to usk because I'm going to tell you to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to my reasoning on one and done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It just sounds like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>further heartbreaking work, time, money, your body putting it on

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<v Speaker 1>the line for the potential of another baby. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>depends how much you want it. I guess I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that, yeah, you've already got one miracle, and just

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy every moment of that. How to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the dummy. My baby is two years and four months.

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<v Speaker 1>Lenny was almost three when he got rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>dummy completely. Everyone has different advice about when to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the dummy. I reckon you do what's right

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<v Speaker 1>for you, or whoever is giving you advice that you're trusting,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just think like, let's take a little bit

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>of pressure off ourselves. Everyone that was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to need dental work. Sorry, Me and

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>my husband have both had braces twice. Okay, he is

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>going to need dental work anyway. Things aren't looking good

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<v Speaker 1>in the mouth department. If it's not affecting this speech

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<v Speaker 1>too much, I don't know, is it really something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to worry about. They're not going to be

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>taking a dummy to school with them, are they. So

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<v Speaker 1>from about two we moved the dummy to just bedtime

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and nap time or like a car trip or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>My thing was three. Because the pediatric that we have

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<v Speaker 1>used since Lennie was really little, I just go by

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<v Speaker 1>what he says okay, because I think it's easier just

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<v Speaker 1>to follow one person's advice rather than listening to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>million different people's advice. That's why I mean what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when I say, you find one person, follow their advice,

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he said. At Lenny's two year old checkup, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he still has a dummy. He was like, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it, just get rid of it by three. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a stickler for the rules and I'm scared of authority.

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of weeks before his third birthday, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ah, no, we need to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>it now before I take him for his three year

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<v Speaker 1>check up. For Lenny, I simply said to him one night,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, Bud, you're a big boy now.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need several forms of comfort. You can either

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in mummy's bed, mummy and daddy's bed without a dummy,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can sleep in your bed with the dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said this to him because I trusted my

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<v Speaker 1>child and my knowledge of my child enough to know

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that hands down, he would choose to sleep in my

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>bed with me as his comforter any day over the dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he ended up in our bed full time,

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<v Speaker 1>but without the dummy, so small wins right. He has

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<v Speaker 1>actually since moved into his bed again without the dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was just as simple as that, like

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<v Speaker 1>offering up something better the option they have to choose

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<v Speaker 1>an option. Toddler's like to feel like they're in charge,

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>so you need to sort of give them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people say that bribery is really bad. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that bribery is great if it works. Give them something

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that they want more than the dummy. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>like a really spiritual child that you can't just be like, oh,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the dummy fairy or what other people use. And he

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>still does have it. Sometimes he'll get it in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning when he first wakes up for an hour or so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. He literally just wants to suck on

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<v Speaker 1>it for comfort for an hour when he first wakes

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>up in the morning. You know what, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to speak twenty one for the first hour in the

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>morning until I've had a cup of coffee. Really, we

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>all have our little vice in the morning. I don't

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>really care if that's what he wants. At this point

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>of view, he's still really little help. I have a

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>sister in law who can't help but overstep boundaries and interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate conflict, but how can I get her to

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<v Speaker 1>butt out? Well, she's not your sister. Get your partner

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk to her. That is so unfair that it's

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>all on you. It's your partner's sister. Your partner needs

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to do the dirty work. Okay, that's all I have

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<v Speaker 1>time for today. I've really enjoyed having a tipple with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you've found my advice a little bit entertaining, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not that helpful, but you know, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>If you enjoyed this style of content, let me know

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>because I can definitely do this once a month or

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<v Speaker 1>so until Ms Keay Reese manages to rip her nipple

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<v Speaker 1>away from Suki Bear. Her name's not Suki, it's Suki,

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>but I like to call her Suki anyway. This episode

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was you know what, we can't even really say produced

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>when it was this bad by myself Kelly McCarran, with

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the audio production by the delightful Maddie Joiner, who has

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to listen to this absolute mess. Apologies, please retin view

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or don't if you really didn't enjoy it, and I'll

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>be back with you next week, hopefully, unless I throw

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<v Speaker 1>another overwhelmed tantrum and can't give you anything with another

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>episode of the Unhinged podcast for your Ears about the

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>madness that is motherhood and everything in between.