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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 3: Makeup is My Therapy Love. I'm obsessed and I don't

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Speaker 3: even feel guilty about it.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you beauty this daily podcast Your Face.

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Speaker 4: I am Sarah Marie Bard.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Kelly McCarran.

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Speaker 5: And this is In Her Bag, the show where we

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Speaker 5: talk about what's in your makeup bag and why.

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Speaker 2: Today we are talking gender neutral fragrances.

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Speaker 4: Love love love, love love love.

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Speaker 5: Both of us are huge fans of gender neutral fragrances,

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Speaker 5: and I mean we do need to caveaut this episode

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Speaker 5: by saying, like, obviously all fragrances are gender neutral. You

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Speaker 5: can wear whatever the hell you want to wear in

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Speaker 5: terms of fragrance or just regardless exactly. But when we're

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Speaker 5: talking about gener neutral fragrances, we're talking about things that

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Speaker 5: don't lean super firm or super mask in traditional terms

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Speaker 5: of fragrance exactly, which is the feminine fragrances will come

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Speaker 5: in a bottle with a flower on top, and it's

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Speaker 5: got heaps of apple and flowers and pretty smelling sweet

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Speaker 5: sweet will come in a brown glass bottle and it's

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Speaker 5: got heaps of woods in it.

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Speaker 1: So it's the meeting in the middle of those things exactly.

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Speaker 4: And they usually have really cool.

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Speaker 1: Bottles, not fam not masks, just gender neutral.

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Speaker 5: I had to find the liner in my bag.

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Speaker 2: I've always bought men's fragrances that I thought were gender neutral, Like,

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Speaker 2: there's some that I obsessed with.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Like I used to especially lean more towards

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Speaker 5: masculine smelling fragrances. However, as I've gotten older, I don't

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Speaker 5: want those really deep woods. I find them like a

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Speaker 1: Like it's just a lot. So I just love that

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Speaker 1: the gener neutral.

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Speaker 5: It's more in the middle, like it might have like

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Speaker 5: a little hint of leather or to bat or the woods,

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Speaker 2: Not deep in one like a slight citrusy like it's

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Speaker 1: It's fred of wood.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: It's like you want to feel fresher, not like a

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Speaker 2: drown you're going out, yeah, yeah, yeah, Whereas when you're younger,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you can go exactly, like, I agree

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I actually brought in gender neutral fragrance I.

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Speaker 4: Bought that show you later.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm excited to have a sniff.

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Speaker 5: We wanted to see what real women are actually wearing

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Speaker 5: in terms of gender neutral fragrances, so we had a

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Speaker 5: little check around the office to see what's popular with

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Speaker 5: women from gen Z to the baby boomers with fragrances.

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Speaker 4: I just avoid anything super floral. I like them more

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Speaker 4: of a fresh herbal, even fruity. I don't like musk

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Speaker 4: or vanilla. Anything that smells like you can eat it

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Speaker 1: Some a nostalgia by who Is Elijah?

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Speaker 3: So perfect for the summer months, feeling light and airy

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Speaker 3: and forever.

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Speaker 5: I love that this person has mentioned the who Is

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Speaker 5: Elijah fragrance because Rachel Boris has built like she's just

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Speaker 5: a powerhouse. She's built one of Australia's fastest growing fragrance

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Speaker 5: brands and it's all about breaking those gendered scent norms.

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Speaker 5: Have you smelled many of her fragrances, because they're also

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Speaker 5: designed to layer, like oh luck.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was talking to my friends EA recently and I

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Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, you smell so good, and

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Speaker 5: ones I don't even remember what it was, but it

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Speaker 5: just created the most unique, beautiful fragrance.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I like that so working in beauty.

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Speaker 2: When I first got into beauty, I was working retail,

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Speaker 2: and I used to spray fragrance when people like were

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Speaker 4: Do you want to snaw?

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Speaker 1: Oh I am haf you missed.

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Speaker 2: Outst annoying you would get done to you. But like

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Speaker 2: I used to be that pirpecially if it was stinky.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, thank god. I always picked a really good one.

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Speaker 2: But the whole thing with fragrance before was you cannot

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Speaker 2: layer another frameagrance on top of the fragrance.

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Speaker 1: And bruce it. Don't bruise anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, put your moisturize there on and then fragrance.

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Speaker 4: And I love now.

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Speaker 5: Things people take fragrance a lot less seriously, kind of

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Speaker 5: It was very old school, like this is how it's

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Speaker 5: This is for a man aged forty five, precisely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a Lacey is a young fragrance. You know.

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Speaker 5: I love that she's designed them to be laid have you.

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Speaker 5: This is my latest fave. This is called the cherry

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Speaker 5: Fiesta I think it launched at the end of last year.

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Speaker 5: It's so actually, it smells a little bit sweet in

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Speaker 1: It's sexy and like fresh. I love it, but not

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Speaker 5: I agree with the person that said that they don't

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Speaker 5: and mandarin. Well, coming up after the break, we've rounded

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Speaker 5: up some gorgeous fragrances ginger neutral fragrance says, which we

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Speaker 5: think are so on trend and absolutely anyone can wear them.

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Speaker 5: Sarah Marie and I have both put in three of

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Speaker 5: our favorite ginger neutral fragrances to share, So you hit

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Speaker 5: me up first place.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the one that you've got in a box.

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Speaker 2: I've got the two of the fragrances I recommend Personally.

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Speaker 2: Price points are quite high because generally when I buy

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Speaker 2: a fragrance if I'm traveling, my tradition is wherever I go,

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Speaker 2: I bay a fragrance I can only get in that area.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is such a nice tradition.

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Speaker 4: Love love love it.

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Speaker 2: We love a beautiful fragrance, yes, but to justify some

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Speaker 2: of the expensive ones, we do buy something that's gender neutral. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's always been our think, right. So my first one

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Speaker 2: is by Le Labo. This one I got in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: When you buy these, you can have your name written

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Speaker 1: That is so lovely.

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Speaker 4: You can have a smell of this.

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Speaker 1: So it's called gay yak ten gayic.

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Speaker 2: So that way is like, you can only get that

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Speaker 1: To you wear this one alt because it smells like.

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Speaker 5: That is beautiful, that is so light but sexy.

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Speaker 2: And you walked past the store and it made us

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Speaker 2: the fragrance and I'm like, what is the fragrance you've

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Speaker 1: So you can't get this one in Australia.

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Speaker 2: You can't get that particular one in Australia. You can't

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Speaker 2: only get it from Tokyo, right. But they have another

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Speaker 2: fragrance that I loved, which is called santal Santa I

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Speaker 2: I think on the skin, I secretly preferred it over

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Speaker 2: you can only buy it in one city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just like I'm going to be buying it in

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Speaker 5: That is such a cool little travel because then you've

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Speaker 5: always got the story and the memory. And also when

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Speaker 5: our olfactory sense, yes, you'll always be taken back there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a meaningful purchase. And my husband and.

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Speaker 2: I were like, great, it's our perfume because it's gender neutral,

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Speaker 2: so it's become like a group perfume.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think that perfume is not always but sometimes you

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Speaker 5: that can smell different things and put beautiful fragrances.

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Speaker 4: Together literally a handful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in some cases you are getting what you pay for.

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Speaker 5: And there's also different layers of fragrance. Like you're either

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Speaker 1: You probably wouldn't want to be pure.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got the EDP, which is the highest

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Speaker 1: Then you've got the EDT.

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Speaker 5: and then the cologne, which is more.

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Speaker 5: That's got even less of the actual fragrance in it,

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Speaker 5: so it just lasts less time exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it also just depends on the skin some people,

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Speaker 2: you know, an EDT a toilet might last you the

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Speaker 5: Well, then it also depends on the ingredients because woods

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Speaker 5: and stronger fragrances tend to sit and sink into your

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Speaker 2: The next one that I love, and I've had this

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Speaker 2: They're range in general, they're all unisex. Actually even buy

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Speaker 2: like a smaller pack like they've got the duo thirty

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Speaker 2: meal sets as well. One hundred meals are two forty five.

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Speaker 2: The two thirty mil sets are one hundred and ninety dollars.

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Speaker 2: Me personally, if I was buying for myself, I'd be

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Speaker 2: going for the duo. Yeah, because thirty meals and you're

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Speaker 2: not always going to use this one large perfume. It's

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Speaker 2: got sand Award. Definitely a fragrance. Light enough for every

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Speaker 2: day so it is something that you can use this

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Speaker 2: in every Both of these are a beautiful every day one,

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Speaker 2: but strong enough that you can use it in the evening,

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Speaker 2: so it's quite versatile. They also sell discovery kits, which

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Speaker 2: love a Discovery kit. They came in like smaller sizes.

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Speaker 2: I love them because you can literally put those in

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Speaker 2: your bag with you. You get such a wide range,

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Speaker 2: and it's forty four dollars and now that's so good

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, because you don't know how some things

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Speaker 2: are going to sit on you exactly, so you get

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Speaker 2: something like the Discovery Kit before you actually do anything.

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Speaker 2: I did though, because these two fragrances are quite expensive,

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Speaker 2: I found a website.

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Speaker 1: Are Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: He has a selection of unisex fragrances inspired They don't

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Speaker 5: Those, like I've had that one even in that tiny

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Speaker 5: It is so good to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you you were first of all, you're beautiful, so

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Speaker 3: I came up with this idea of boyfriend years ago,

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Speaker 3: But really what I ended up with, what I wanted

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Speaker 5: It like, it's not that out of the three boyfriends

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Speaker 1: You at all times? What are your all time faves?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, because I'm a magical unicorn from heaven.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so it's like just really helping rejuvenate you skin.

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Speaker 2: I just seemed, oh my god, you were so composed

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Speaker 1: No one would have known.

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Speaker 5: And we also will pop the products like she had

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Speaker 2: And that's a wrap on today's deep dive into gender

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Speaker 2: neutral fragrances.

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Speaker 4: Whether you're a longtime fan of a unisex or.

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Speaker 2: Just dipping your toes into the trends, we hope you

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Speaker 2: have found something new to try and huge.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to my new friend Kate while she's sharing her insights,

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Speaker 5: we will definitely be having a whiff of her fragrances

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Speaker 5: once our order arrives, and I'll be back tomorrow for

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Speaker 5: Spendy Save with Lee Campbell and Sarah Marine.

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Speaker 1: I will be back next week.

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Speaker 4: Bye Kate.

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Speaker 1: Walsh, Bye Kate, we love you. See for drink soon.

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Speaker 4: Bye Bufa

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Speaker 2: You Beauty is produced by Cassie Merrett, Bye Bye Bye