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Speaker 3: do it. You live for fashion.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Air. The podcast solves

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Speaker 1: fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell

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Speaker 1: and every week I chat to an expert who helps

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Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the

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Speaker 1: clothes you already own and tells us exactly what is

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Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now this week

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Speaker 1: is exciting because we are going to fix everything for you.

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Speaker 1: That's a big statement. But returning to the podcast is

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Speaker 1: Donnie Galela. He is a stylist for very very fancy

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Speaker 1: celebrities and everyday women like you and me, and he

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Speaker 1: takes some shopping, He goes through their wardrobes, he listens

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Speaker 1: to their questions and fixes their problems. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go through Donnie's DMS and it's the

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Speaker 1: most common questions he gets about getting dressed and shopping.

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Speaker 1: And then it's your turn. We crowd saw some questions

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Speaker 1: from the Nothing to Wear community, and Donnie is going

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Speaker 1: to help us there with some fantastic questions and even

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Speaker 1: better answers. So let's get into it. Darling Donnie, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: so good to see you. We've been chatting so much

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Speaker 1: before we started filming, but it's official. You're back on

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Speaker 1: nothing to wear. So I'm not going to ask you

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Speaker 1: any personal style questions because we've got so many questions

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Speaker 1: to throw at you. You're a stylist for both fancy

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Speaker 1: get a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: I do want to take your phone and go through

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Speaker 1: your Instagram DM and welcome. I don't know what I know,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm sure you get some common

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Speaker 1: ones that you get more than others. So let's go

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Speaker 1: through those and help everyone get dressed. So the first

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Speaker 1: one is can I still wear skinny jeans? All these

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Speaker 4: I've only got a dollar for every time I got

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Speaker 2: Look, loose jeans, baggy jeans are a trend, but if

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Speaker 4: Keep winning, keep wearing your skinny jeans.

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Speaker 2: Because you're going to wear your skin jeans, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: So don't follow trends that you don't love. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to wear skinny jeans, rock those skinny jeans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And apparently they're coming back.

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Speaker 2: Well, everything in cycles, and if you look at any

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so definitely for me, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: into a straight leg, you know, like a plastic.

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Speaker 4: Straight leg is always timeless, that's cheek.

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Speaker 2: You look back in that seventies and ages and nineties

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Speaker 2: So if you are on the fence about you know changings,

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Speaker 1: Okay. I bought one pair of skinny the other day

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Speaker 1: there a way to make the skinny jean silhouette More

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Speaker 2: I think that bring the oversize to your top. Pass

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Speaker 4: That'd be a great way to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I tried it on with just the tank

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Speaker 1: Just you know, it just felt old. Yeah, yeah, I could.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool? All right? Something else you get asked a lot,

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Speaker 4: But they got to die, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: So choosing clothes that are intelligent, choosing clothes that are

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Speaker 2: So yeah, fine clothes are going to make you feel

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Speaker 2: So if you wear a solid color at my plain white,

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Speaker 1: So true and more I guess observe the garment than

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Speaker 4: Absolutely talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You know we're supposed to love our body.

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Speaker 2: And we do, we do, but sometimes you want to

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Speaker 4: Now we could have gone a plain white, boring T shirt, but.

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Speaker 2: We found one in Unison and had like roosing on it,

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Speaker 1: Because you're kind of looking at eye level for someone

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Speaker 1: It's an earring or a headband or a necklace.

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Speaker 2: You draw the attention to where you want them to

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Speaker 1: Yes, can I ask you, because we were talking a

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Speaker 1: wear similar ages. God, I hope I didn't age you.

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Speaker 1: Then everything that we will, you know, teens and twenties

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Speaker 2: Kind of good because they kind of jut over us,

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Speaker 1: That's used to wear it was too out or.

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Speaker 4: I don't know one with the Jets, and I think

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, Donnie, I had one pair back then that

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Speaker 2: A lot of men shapewear for years, but I think

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Speaker 1: And I think you can also now get like just

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, horse that you can't eat or drink. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing people get overwhelmed with shopping and you know,

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Speaker 1: coordinating their wardrobe. So you get asked a lot, how

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Speaker 2: So I feel this is a two step approach. The

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Speaker 2: you can't find anything. You don't even know what you have.

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Speaker 2: You keep buying more of the same.

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Speaker 1: Thing house this morning, peaking through the blinds.

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Speaker 2: We live close and getting dressed is not a joy

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Speaker 4: We keep buying more of the same things and we

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Speaker 2: So I think take stock, go through your wardrobe, be ruthless,

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Speaker 4: And also, color blocking is good.

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Speaker 1: I throw it on to take my son to school

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Speaker 1: because I can wear a black bar under it. I

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Speaker 1: wear it with heels, it's got pockets, I put a

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Speaker 1: denim jacket, I put sequinsh So true, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not having.

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Speaker 2: Dress that is just truly versatile, right game change and

444
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Speaker 2: that right blazer because watch, you have all these pieces

445
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Speaker 2: literally could wear it anywhere and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: My one tip, and I'm not the right person to

447
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Speaker 1: give this advice, is I've plugged my steamer in in

448
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Speaker 1: the laundry, which is also one of the bathrooms, and

449
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Speaker 1: it's there because if I have to get the steamer

450
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Speaker 1: and fill it with water and it's not going to happen.

451
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Speaker 1: So now it's like right running out the door. I

452
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Speaker 1: go downstairs, steam seam steams, throw it on out exactly.

453
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Speaker 1: Otherwise I just won't wear the thing.

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Speaker 2: I find that even as a stylist, I have to

455
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Speaker 2: have my iron set up in a room so every time,

456
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Speaker 2: and the water there and all these things, set all

457
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Speaker 2: the things exactly so once it's up, you're more inclined

458
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Speaker 2: to iron steam, which helps a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, last sneaky look in your dms, and then

460
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Speaker 1: we're going to throw to the nothing to air community

461
00:18:49,354 --> 00:18:51,754
Speaker 1: that we're crowdsauced. So a DM, you get a lot.

462
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Speaker 1: I go shopping and come home empty handed. Gosh, I

463
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Speaker 1: wish that was me. What am I doing wrong? Tips

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Speaker 1: to shop more effectively?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one, now, I feel when we're

466
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Speaker 2: going shopping We almost go a bit on autopilot where

467
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Speaker 2: we go to our local shopping center, we go back

468
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Speaker 2: to the same brands we always go back to. We

469
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Speaker 2: buy the same shapes, the same colors, same same saying.

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Speaker 2: So my challenge to you is, next time you are shopping,

471
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Speaker 2: you're looking something, go to a completely different shopping center,

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Speaker 2: one that you would not usually go to. Okay, then

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Speaker 2: challenge yourself to go into shops that you may.

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Speaker 4: Not usually go into.

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Speaker 2: Es And I want you to think of brands and

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Speaker 2: shops a bit like Taylor Swift. And what I mean

477
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Speaker 2: is Taylor Swift has different eras, right, So brands have

478
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Speaker 2: different eras. So you may think in your head, I'm

479
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Speaker 2: not going to Portman's because that's such a corporate girlie shop.

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Speaker 2: But that's what the Portman's was ten fifteen years ago. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but their new era is their very cool fund dresses,

482
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Speaker 2: party dresses, festive dressing. So think of brands as evolving.

483
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Speaker 2: People like Taylor Swift, they go through different eras, never

484
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Speaker 2: have preconceived they have preconceived notions.

485
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Speaker 4: Of brands and thinking well, I'm not going to there.

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Speaker 2: Because if you go to a shopping center and suddenly say, well,

487
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Speaker 2: I can't shop there there because that's an older person.

488
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Speaker 2: They're there for a younger person. I don't like them,

489
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Speaker 2: had a bad experience ten years ago.

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Speaker 4: You've set up all.

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Speaker 1: The linen so I can't go to all the other shops,

492
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Speaker 1: and you've set up.

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Speaker 2: All these rules and you've locked yourself from half the

494
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Speaker 2: shopping center and limits. So walk in to every shop blindly,

495
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Speaker 2: don't even look at what the story is, just going thinking, Okay,

496
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Speaker 2: well I need X, y Z, and do they have it?

497
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Speaker 4: And if they do, great.

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Speaker 1: It's so true. I walked past for revenue recently and

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Speaker 1: I hadn't been in for revenue for so long, and

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Speaker 1: they had some really cool thing.

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Speaker 4: Revenue is killing her now.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about it. Now Mama Me is back in

503
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Speaker 1: the city. You know, I went off again.

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Speaker 3: A lot of my.

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Speaker 2: Clients think they think of revenue is that very pretty

506
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Speaker 2: little girl sarels and.

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Speaker 1: Like thee the bad PEPM from young ago.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, it's so cool now some of their like linen

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Speaker 2: that's a gorgeous Their tailoring is beautiful, the.

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Speaker 4: D is really good.

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Speaker 1: So again, so just yeah, basically blind, they're in a

512
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Speaker 1: good they're in a good ear. Don't but go into

513
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Speaker 1: shops that you wouldn't.

514
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Speaker 4: Go into exactly and challenge and try things on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a friend and like write a list

516
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Speaker 1: for each other, like you know, like my friend always

517
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Speaker 1: shops at surf shops, so I could center to the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally fun.

519
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Speaker 1: So Donnie, now we're going to jump to questions submitted

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Speaker 1: by the wonderful nothing to wear communities. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with one that I love. I didn't write this on

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Speaker 1: a promise any flat shoe recommendations. Actually, wait, my question

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Speaker 1: is I can't wear heels anymore. So if I had

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Speaker 1: to have one pair of heels for emergencies, what should

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Speaker 1: they be and where do I get them? And I

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Speaker 1: want to personally add to that, talk to me about

527
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Speaker 1: your favorite flat shoes. Okay, I'm wearing a heel, but

528
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Speaker 1: like flats all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So if I was taking any client shopping, I

530
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Speaker 2: feel the flat shoes I love the most are a

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Speaker 2: good pointed toe ballet style flat because they elong get

532
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Speaker 2: your leg, they make you look taller. It's a nice

533
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Speaker 2: nude color or a bazy kind of tone. So that

534
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Speaker 2: will go with everything closed Geat Closed in a little

535
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Speaker 2: bit more classic.

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Speaker 1: It is and if you can wear that to the office,

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Speaker 1: you could wear that too.

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Speaker 4: Exactly going to go with everything.

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Speaker 2: I'd get a nude and a black pair in a

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Speaker 2: pointed toe style that will go with everything. And you

541
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Speaker 2: can literally spend fifty sixty bucks on a pair or

542
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Speaker 2: invest in a really good call.

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Speaker 1: And I want you to come with me to get

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Speaker 1: a nude because I need that.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. I've got a few up sleeve. Oh definitely,

546
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Speaker 4: my friend. So that's the point that So that's the

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Speaker 4: flat shoe.

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Speaker 2: And then if you had to only have one heel

549
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Speaker 2: in your wardrobe, a really beautiful again, nude colored heel

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Speaker 2: at a height that you're comfortable.

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Speaker 1: With, like a pumpy that you mentioned again, if.

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Speaker 4: You're a classic pump, you can't go wrong.

553
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Speaker 1: And weight or leather.

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Speaker 4: Actually loves swaying.

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Speaker 1: Does I feel it feels classier, It kind.

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Speaker 4: Of blends in with your leg better.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the patent ones don't blend in as well, because

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Speaker 2: what you want, you want that shoot and this blending

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Speaker 2: bin extension on your leg.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like the nude patent can sometimes look

561
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Speaker 1: a bit like banditty or something I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And a big corporated business to something. Yeah, a good

563
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Speaker 4: nude swayed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I we need to help me with both of those.

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Speaker 1: You know what else I'm going to recommend for someone

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Speaker 1: who doesn't have ankles. I was just born with legs

567
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Speaker 1: and then feet. I have other great skip the ankles,

568
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Speaker 1: and I'm not particularly tall. A shoe. The one heel

569
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Speaker 1: I am wearing all of summer. I just got them

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Speaker 1: mind it from Billini. God, I can't believe I'm saying this.

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Speaker 1: They sound quite strippery and quite awful, but they're just

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Speaker 1: a perspect's wedge. So it's that skinny, kind of skinny

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Speaker 1: wedge heel, so thin but comfortable to walk in. And

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Speaker 1: then it's just a nude perspects pointy toe, not too

575
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Speaker 1: much perspects that you're gonna get sweaty, like your toes

576
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Speaker 1: are out. They're so cool. I wore them the other

577
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Speaker 1: day with like a baggy denim shortened tea and it

578
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Speaker 1: was just like, you know, going I wasn't going to

579
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Speaker 1: the post office. I was wearing heels. But then you

580
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Speaker 1: can also wear them with a beautiful dress. So it's

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Speaker 1: a very summary, kind of cool version of the nude pump.

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Speaker 1: I never thought I would wear clear perspects wedges, but

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Speaker 1: they haven't there's nothing they haven't gone with.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I know the ones and they are great, very.

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Speaker 1: And you can get that style very wrong. But I

586
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Speaker 1: tried them on in Billini and then I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I love these. They said like glass slippers.

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Speaker 4: The ones I got from the stripper shop.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not as Yeah, okay, next question, I live regionally

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Speaker 1: so can't really shop in person, but I love fashion.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for shopping online when it's

592
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Speaker 1: hard to gauge quality and size?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I think what you want to do is

594
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Speaker 2: really scrutinize your shopping when you're shopping online. So a

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Speaker 2: few things to really look at the size guide, so like,

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Speaker 2: you know, get your tape measure out and just make

597
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Speaker 2: sure that that size you're ordering is right for your

598
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Speaker 2: body shape because obviously, you know, you might usually be

599
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Speaker 2: a twelve, but is there twelve like the twelve that

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Speaker 2: you need? So no, and then simply did that. I

601
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Speaker 2: put it all in my notes up and it was

602
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Speaker 2: so helpful, so good. I'm normally a size this, but.

603
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's important to have all those measurements on.

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Speaker 2: And also, yeah, you're shopping online is really look at

605
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Speaker 2: the description, look at every detail, like, you know, how's

606
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Speaker 2: it finished, what's the fabric, what's the fabrication? You know,

607
00:24:53,834 --> 00:24:56,033
Speaker 2: don't just skim over that. That's really important information. If

608
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Speaker 2: you're shopping in person, you can touch and feel the fabric,

609
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Speaker 2: you can see how it drapes on your body. But

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Speaker 2: when you're shopping online you can't do that. But looking

611
00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:04,794
Speaker 2: at the fabrication, what fabrics and learning about that.

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Speaker 1: We did an amazing helpful episode with Nicole and I

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Speaker 1: and heind one and she's like a glossary, She's a

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Speaker 1: encyclopedia of fabric and she I said, what about polyester?

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Speaker 1: And She's like, well what kind? And I was like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we broke it all down. So we'll link that

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Speaker 1: in the show notes. But I did not know the

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Speaker 1: difference between so many.

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Speaker 2: Knowing that Disco or a Polly or a Blend, it

620
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Speaker 2: makes a big difference when you're ordering.

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Speaker 1: It so much easier, yes, because some synthetics are really crushy,

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Speaker 1: but then some are amazing. Exactly, Yeah, okay, so that

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Speaker 1: and you know what my favorite part to do is

624
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Speaker 1: read the reviews.

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Speaker 4: If there's reviews, Oh my god, yes, reviews are so help.

626
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Speaker 2: We can learn so much commah.

627
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Speaker 1: And some people upload photos yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then returns policy.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes also then go to their Instagram and check

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Speaker 2: out people who might be wearing the products because you

631
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Speaker 2: can see it on real bodies.

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Speaker 1: Photos, like you know, your Instagram. But then even so look.

633
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Speaker 2: At the tag photo, see people who've worn it, and

634
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Speaker 2: look at it on different bodies and different shapes as well,

635
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Speaker 2: and be like, oh yeah, that transcends nicely from a

636
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Speaker 2: size six twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and also shameless plug jump in the Nothing to

638
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Speaker 1: Wear community on Facebook, there's nearly twenty thousand people in there,

639
00:26:08,754 --> 00:26:11,514
Speaker 1: and say, hey, guys, I need some websites or I'm

640
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Speaker 1: looking at this website because I've noticed a rise in

641
00:26:14,074 --> 00:26:17,834
Speaker 1: scam websites lately that you know, you google brown leather

642
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:20,033
Speaker 1: bag and it's like oh, such and such Melbourne and

643
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, fifty percent off and I'm like, oh

644
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Speaker 1: that's beautiful, oh great, And then I put it in

645
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Speaker 1: trust part it or I google and it's a scam. Yeah, okay,

646
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Speaker 1: this is a great one. And I don't think it's silly.

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Speaker 1: This person has said I have a silly question, but

648
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Speaker 1: here goes. Can I take my existing clothes into a

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Speaker 1: store to try them on with items I like the

650
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Speaker 1: look of I want to make sure they match and

651
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Speaker 1: work together. Then and there, I barely have time to

652
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Speaker 1: go shopping, let alone go back and do a return.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You have every right to bring in

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Speaker 2: pieces from your wardrobe.

655
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Speaker 4: And it's such a.

656
00:26:50,834 --> 00:26:52,594
Speaker 2: Great idea because you know, sometimes you might have a

657
00:26:52,594 --> 00:26:54,914
Speaker 2: piece at home that you really want to match with something. Yeah,

658
00:26:54,954 --> 00:26:57,194
Speaker 2: and you are you going to I got to match

659
00:26:57,194 --> 00:26:58,594
Speaker 2: that color, try and think of that.

660
00:26:58,474 --> 00:27:00,874
Speaker 1: Color, yes, or you've got a photo, yeah, just bring

661
00:27:00,914 --> 00:27:02,914
Speaker 1: it with you. I would have never thought to do that.

662
00:27:03,114 --> 00:27:04,474
Speaker 1: Sometimes that it was shoes.

663
00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:06,074
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, yeah, bring your shoes

664
00:27:06,114 --> 00:27:08,674
Speaker 2: into my clients when we do our style sessions. I

665
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:10,194
Speaker 2: asked them to bring a couple of their shoes in

666
00:27:10,194 --> 00:27:12,234
Speaker 2: as well, so we can try clothes on with their shoes.

667
00:27:12,954 --> 00:27:14,834
Speaker 2: But it just it makes so much sense. Why don't

668
00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:16,114
Speaker 2: you going to have to match these clothes back to

669
00:27:16,154 --> 00:27:18,154
Speaker 2: things in your wardrobe? So bring them with you when

670
00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:20,114
Speaker 2: you go shopping. Bring your shoes when you go shopping,

671
00:27:20,154 --> 00:27:21,074
Speaker 2: Bring a pack to lunch.

672
00:27:21,354 --> 00:27:22,154
Speaker 4: There's no rules.

673
00:27:22,754 --> 00:27:25,074
Speaker 1: Bring the giant suitcase with your whole wardrobe, because I

674
00:27:25,114 --> 00:27:27,274
Speaker 1: guess that works really well if you've got something you're

675
00:27:27,314 --> 00:27:29,754
Speaker 1: trying to get another item to pair with or on event.

676
00:27:30,154 --> 00:27:33,234
Speaker 1: But if you're just browsing, you can't really know.

677
00:27:33,754 --> 00:27:36,634
Speaker 2: But I guess you can definitely bring them with you

678
00:27:36,714 --> 00:27:38,594
Speaker 2: and try them on. And it's a great way to

679
00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:41,353
Speaker 2: build up the perfect wardrobe off because do you want

680
00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:43,354
Speaker 2: to match back to things that you own already, Yeah,

681
00:27:43,474 --> 00:27:44,513
Speaker 2: so bring them with you.

682
00:27:44,554 --> 00:27:45,754
Speaker 4: I think that's such a good idea.

683
00:27:45,874 --> 00:27:48,074
Speaker 1: You have to say, like, Hi, I've got a bag

684
00:27:48,114 --> 00:27:49,554
Speaker 1: of clothes with me, Like, what.

685
00:27:49,554 --> 00:27:52,154
Speaker 2: If you think you've stolen I mean maybe if you've

686
00:27:52,154 --> 00:27:55,714
Speaker 2: got a lot of I'm just walking in with a

687
00:27:55,714 --> 00:27:56,674
Speaker 2: few things from him.

688
00:27:56,794 --> 00:27:57,554
Speaker 1: I love your brand.

689
00:27:57,994 --> 00:27:59,434
Speaker 4: The chances are the things that you bought a few

690
00:27:59,474 --> 00:28:00,834
Speaker 4: years ago, so they wouldn't be stopping.

691
00:28:00,914 --> 00:28:03,074
Speaker 2: But if you've just bought them last week, they maybe

692
00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:04,513
Speaker 2: just give them a little heads up.

693
00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:06,833
Speaker 1: All right, last one before we get into bougie and budget.

694
00:28:07,354 --> 00:28:10,754
Speaker 1: On a previous show, an experts said to start with shoes.

695
00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:13,034
Speaker 1: This was a huge light bulb moment for me, as

696
00:28:13,074 --> 00:28:15,553
Speaker 1: shoes are where I get stuck. So I'm assuming she

697
00:28:15,594 --> 00:28:18,234
Speaker 1: means like choosing the shoes first. First, do you agree

698
00:28:18,274 --> 00:28:22,754
Speaker 1: with factoring walk ability and comfort first before picking my clothes?

699
00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:26,154
Speaker 1: And then what if I pick comfy shoes. I'm drawn

700
00:28:26,194 --> 00:28:28,794
Speaker 1: to comfy clothes that aren't stylish. Oh my god, it

701
00:28:29,034 --> 00:28:30,674
Speaker 1: feels Yeah.

702
00:28:30,714 --> 00:28:33,553
Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan off, you know, having a

703
00:28:33,554 --> 00:28:35,994
Speaker 2: focal point of your outfit, and shoes are a great

704
00:28:36,034 --> 00:28:38,234
Speaker 2: focal point. So if you've got to particularly shar you love,

705
00:28:38,434 --> 00:28:40,794
Speaker 2: bring that shoe when you go shopping and then think

706
00:28:40,794 --> 00:28:43,234
Speaker 2: how can I create an outfit around.

707
00:28:42,874 --> 00:28:44,274
Speaker 1: This or when you're getting dressed?

708
00:28:44,354 --> 00:28:44,554
Speaker 4: Right?

709
00:28:44,634 --> 00:28:44,954
Speaker 1: Yeah?

710
00:28:44,954 --> 00:28:49,114
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, Obviously bring racings around the corner. So you know,

711
00:28:49,114 --> 00:28:50,554
Speaker 2: you might have a beautiful shoe you want to wear

712
00:28:50,594 --> 00:28:52,634
Speaker 2: to the races, So bring that to the shops and

713
00:28:52,674 --> 00:28:54,354
Speaker 2: then think about how can I matches back to the.

714
00:28:54,354 --> 00:28:56,634
Speaker 4: Dress, back to the hat, back to the clutch. So

715
00:28:56,794 --> 00:28:57,514
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan.

716
00:28:57,434 --> 00:29:00,794
Speaker 2: Of bringing your shoes or your accessories when you go shopping.

717
00:29:00,874 --> 00:29:02,674
Speaker 1: What am I getting dressed in the morning? Like, have

718
00:29:02,914 --> 00:29:07,714
Speaker 1: you ever advised your clients to go, okay, where a

719
00:29:07,754 --> 00:29:10,114
Speaker 1: corporate woman, or wear a stay at home mom, or

720
00:29:10,154 --> 00:29:12,674
Speaker 1: wear going to whatever. Let's start with the shoes.

721
00:29:13,714 --> 00:29:16,394
Speaker 2: If shoes are her thing, I have sometimes where shoes

722
00:29:16,434 --> 00:29:18,234
Speaker 2: are their life because I just love the shoes.

723
00:29:18,434 --> 00:29:20,434
Speaker 4: They have a shoe wardrobe and that fit. That's like

724
00:29:20,434 --> 00:29:21,154
Speaker 4: the holy grail.

725
00:29:21,754 --> 00:29:23,514
Speaker 2: And if that's what makes you happy, because that's what

726
00:29:23,634 --> 00:29:25,154
Speaker 2: she come down to you. If you're going to wear that

727
00:29:25,154 --> 00:29:26,554
Speaker 2: shoe all day and it's just going to make you

728
00:29:26,594 --> 00:29:29,514
Speaker 2: feel amazing, then start with that and build your wardrobe

729
00:29:29,554 --> 00:29:30,034
Speaker 2: around that.

730
00:29:30,154 --> 00:29:33,194
Speaker 1: I often factor shoes in, maybe not first, but because

731
00:29:33,234 --> 00:29:36,434
Speaker 1: I don't have the ankle situation, Yeah, I can't wear

732
00:29:36,474 --> 00:29:38,794
Speaker 1: a lot of types of shoes, or the hemline of

733
00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:40,834
Speaker 1: my pants or skirt really matter with the shoes, so

734
00:29:40,874 --> 00:29:43,794
Speaker 1: we'll factor it in more from a visual standpoint. But

735
00:29:43,794 --> 00:29:47,154
Speaker 1: theyn also comfort. But I've realized the shoe. I just

736
00:29:47,194 --> 00:29:50,994
Speaker 1: won't wear uncomfortable shoes anymore, so they're out.

737
00:29:51,194 --> 00:29:52,354
Speaker 4: It's got to come back to comfort.

738
00:29:52,434 --> 00:29:54,154
Speaker 2: You're going to be wearing that all day, whether it's

739
00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:56,354
Speaker 2: a shoe, a jacket, a dress, all blaze up, I'm

740
00:29:56,354 --> 00:29:57,034
Speaker 2: going to wear that a day.

741
00:29:57,034 --> 00:29:58,474
Speaker 4: Are you going to feel good wearing that all day?

742
00:29:58,514 --> 00:29:59,154
Speaker 4: That's the key thing.

743
00:29:59,394 --> 00:30:01,474
Speaker 2: And I always say a lot of my clients are like, oh,

744
00:30:01,554 --> 00:30:03,074
Speaker 2: I love that shoe, That's my special shoe.

745
00:30:03,074 --> 00:30:05,594
Speaker 4: I'm saving that. Why are you saving it?

746
00:30:06,034 --> 00:30:09,354
Speaker 2: You have no guarantee but tomorrow, So wear that special

747
00:30:09,394 --> 00:30:13,154
Speaker 2: shoe today, that perfume that you love for special occasions,

748
00:30:13,154 --> 00:30:17,674
Speaker 2: wear every day? Yes, yeh, do it all? Wear it now,

749
00:30:17,954 --> 00:30:20,314
Speaker 2: enjoy it today. There's no guarantee about tomorrow.

750
00:30:20,354 --> 00:30:22,634
Speaker 1: And I think on the comfort thing. I mean, thank god,

751
00:30:22,674 --> 00:30:24,674
Speaker 1: shoes have come a long way since lockdown in that

752
00:30:24,714 --> 00:30:27,754
Speaker 1: there's really stylish and comfortable shoes. Now where is it

753
00:30:27,794 --> 00:30:31,594
Speaker 1: used to be kind of stylish cool comfort, daggy? I've

754
00:30:31,594 --> 00:30:33,754
Speaker 1: recently and back to your kind of wardrobe clear out.

755
00:30:34,074 --> 00:30:36,474
Speaker 1: If shoes are so uncomfortable that you'll never reach for them,

756
00:30:36,674 --> 00:30:39,154
Speaker 1: don't keep them unless they're your wedding shoes and they're beautiful,

757
00:30:39,154 --> 00:30:41,514
Speaker 1: put them on display. But the first thing I will

758
00:30:41,554 --> 00:30:42,914
Speaker 1: get rid of when I do my wadow clean out

759
00:30:42,914 --> 00:30:45,554
Speaker 1: is uncomfortable shoes. If they take up space, you put

760
00:30:45,554 --> 00:30:46,794
Speaker 1: them on for three seconds, you go, oh my god,

761
00:30:46,794 --> 00:30:48,554
Speaker 1: I can't wear these, Oh my gosh. Remember fashion week

762
00:30:48,554 --> 00:30:48,834
Speaker 1: when you.

763
00:30:48,834 --> 00:30:52,434
Speaker 4: Need to help me. Yes, yes, we had a band emergency.

764
00:30:52,594 --> 00:30:56,274
Speaker 1: They were a flat pair of nude pointage. You need

765
00:30:56,274 --> 00:30:57,274
Speaker 1: you to help me find the right one.

766
00:30:57,514 --> 00:30:58,354
Speaker 4: So think about comfort.

767
00:30:58,354 --> 00:30:59,714
Speaker 2: Think why am I going to wear all day and

768
00:30:59,714 --> 00:31:01,714
Speaker 2: feel good and amazing and comfortable.

769
00:31:01,954 --> 00:31:03,514
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it doesn't have to be one or

770
00:31:03,514 --> 00:31:03,714
Speaker 1: the other.

771
00:31:03,874 --> 00:31:05,954
Speaker 2: And the shoes that you really love that bring you

772
00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:07,834
Speaker 2: joy but they hurt, just wear them on your laund room,

773
00:31:07,874 --> 00:31:09,274
Speaker 2: wear them at night all the TV's on.

774
00:31:09,394 --> 00:31:09,594
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:11,914
Speaker 1: I call them a uber shoes. Like if I'm going

776
00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:13,554
Speaker 1: out to dinner with my husband and I know I'm

777
00:31:13,554 --> 00:31:15,474
Speaker 1: gone an hour and a half to the restaurant, uber

778
00:31:15,514 --> 00:31:16,474
Speaker 1: back exactly.

779
00:31:16,554 --> 00:31:29,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect, it's very expensive.

780
00:31:30,234 --> 00:31:36,034
Speaker 1: I want all right, my friend, let's finish with bougie

781
00:31:36,074 --> 00:31:39,594
Speaker 1: and budgets. So it's summer, so we're both inspired by.

782
00:31:40,474 --> 00:31:41,234
Speaker 3: The new season.

783
00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:44,874
Speaker 1: It can be anything. Okay, you shop for women for

784
00:31:44,914 --> 00:31:45,234
Speaker 1: a living.

785
00:31:45,354 --> 00:31:45,674
Speaker 4: I do.

786
00:31:45,754 --> 00:31:49,314
Speaker 1: I shop for myself for a living and for joy.

787
00:31:49,874 --> 00:31:53,034
Speaker 1: I want you to start. Let's start bougie recommendation that

788
00:31:53,034 --> 00:31:54,074
Speaker 1: you've discoveredy.

789
00:31:53,794 --> 00:31:56,234
Speaker 2: Well, I was shopping online last night before bed helped

790
00:31:56,234 --> 00:31:59,114
Speaker 2: them fall asleep. For some people with YouTube, I shop

791
00:32:00,274 --> 00:32:03,354
Speaker 2: scale and Theodore have this beautiful linen blazer.

792
00:32:03,634 --> 00:32:06,914
Speaker 1: A look at that.

793
00:32:07,114 --> 00:32:09,994
Speaker 2: Everything about that is just delicious and going into the

794
00:32:09,994 --> 00:32:11,594
Speaker 2: warm months, a nice linen.

795
00:32:11,234 --> 00:32:12,394
Speaker 4: Blazer is my us.

796
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,434
Speaker 2: It's got a color, it's got a collar. Yeah, it

797
00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:17,234
Speaker 2: comes in that beautiful black or in the off white.

798
00:32:17,914 --> 00:32:20,594
Speaker 1: My gosh, that off white isn't that delicious? They see

799
00:32:20,594 --> 00:32:21,794
Speaker 1: well link in the show notes.

800
00:32:22,954 --> 00:32:25,554
Speaker 2: It's an eight fifty investment. But for a good linen

801
00:32:25,594 --> 00:32:29,194
Speaker 2: blazer you'd wear over and over. Yeah, but my budget.

802
00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:35,114
Speaker 4: Version is in a linen as well. It comes into

803
00:32:35,114 --> 00:32:37,994
Speaker 4: the black, the white, and pistachio.

804
00:32:38,114 --> 00:32:40,994
Speaker 1: Oh I love the Pistachiohow.

805
00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:43,034
Speaker 2: I love anything with pistachia. How much that one is

806
00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:46,074
Speaker 2: I want to say. I think it's seventy dollars Yeah, wow,

807
00:32:46,114 --> 00:32:48,634
Speaker 2: which is great linen for a linen blazer.

808
00:32:48,754 --> 00:32:51,154
Speaker 1: I do like a linen blazer. I already got one

809
00:32:51,194 --> 00:32:54,154
Speaker 1: linen because to me, blazers aren't usually linen, but you

810
00:32:54,194 --> 00:32:57,794
Speaker 1: can still get quite a good state shoulder we line exactly.

811
00:32:57,914 --> 00:33:00,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and obvious linen. It's breathaball. That's going to

812
00:33:00,794 --> 00:33:02,314
Speaker 4: be great for the warmer months.

813
00:33:02,394 --> 00:33:02,634
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:33:03,194 --> 00:33:05,354
Speaker 4: That would have been my little my little purchaser.

815
00:33:05,514 --> 00:33:07,514
Speaker 1: Right, we're doing a linen blazer, go shopping. It's funny

816
00:33:07,514 --> 00:33:10,154
Speaker 1: because Mum and MEA's office here in winter was so

817
00:33:10,354 --> 00:33:12,434
Speaker 1: hot that I was sweating in the single top, and

818
00:33:12,474 --> 00:33:15,114
Speaker 1: now we're in summer it's actually quite freezing. So I'm

819
00:33:15,114 --> 00:33:17,234
Speaker 1: going to get to wear my nice blazers in the office.

820
00:33:17,394 --> 00:33:17,754
Speaker 4: Perfect.

821
00:33:17,834 --> 00:33:20,354
Speaker 1: All right, Well, my bousian budget are unrelated to each other,

822
00:33:20,434 --> 00:33:23,314
Speaker 1: but they're just stuff I love. There's a brand, and

823
00:33:23,354 --> 00:33:25,874
Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronouncing it right. It's called Mattiere. It's

824
00:33:25,874 --> 00:33:28,354
Speaker 1: an Australian brandir Attim Oh.

825
00:33:28,474 --> 00:33:28,714
Speaker 4: Yeah.

826
00:33:28,754 --> 00:33:30,394
Speaker 1: I recently bought a few of their things and I

827
00:33:30,434 --> 00:33:33,314
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the quality is amazing and the price.

828
00:33:33,354 --> 00:33:35,594
Speaker 1: You know, it's my bougie, but it's not outrageous for

829
00:33:35,874 --> 00:33:39,994
Speaker 1: its sort of similar level Aussie brands. So I'm recommending

830
00:33:40,114 --> 00:33:44,074
Speaker 1: the Nyra Barrel pant one hundred and fifty nine ninety nine.

831
00:33:44,554 --> 00:33:47,714
Speaker 1: It's like off white. What would you call that oat Yeah,

832
00:33:47,754 --> 00:33:50,394
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine ninety nine, size six to eighteen.

833
00:33:50,634 --> 00:33:53,394
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like that barrel leg geene, but

834
00:33:53,874 --> 00:33:56,914
Speaker 1: a lighter weight fabric, so good for summer. Look she's

835
00:33:56,954 --> 00:33:59,554
Speaker 1: wearing it there, kind of with you your similar blazer.

836
00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:01,634
Speaker 1: I just think one hundred and sixty bucks for that

837
00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:03,754
Speaker 1: for a bougie you can get more affordable with then.

838
00:34:03,754 --> 00:34:05,394
Speaker 1: I've looked at other brands that are kind of like

839
00:34:05,874 --> 00:34:08,794
Speaker 1: two eighty three six. I'm like whoa guys, And honestly,

840
00:34:08,834 --> 00:34:10,834
Speaker 1: I've got the most beautiful shirt from them and another

841
00:34:10,994 --> 00:34:15,034
Speaker 1: address and the quality is phenomenal, So check out that brand.

842
00:34:15,874 --> 00:34:18,314
Speaker 1: And then my budget speaks back to your tip of

843
00:34:18,354 --> 00:34:21,474
Speaker 1: going into stores you wouldn't normally go into, so as

844
00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:23,634
Speaker 1: listeners know when you know, my mum hasn't been all

845
00:34:23,634 --> 00:34:26,594
Speaker 1: that well lately, and so I'm shopping a at a

846
00:34:26,634 --> 00:34:28,554
Speaker 1: shopping center that I never go to because it's an

847
00:34:28,554 --> 00:34:31,834
Speaker 1: hour away near her hospital. And b she's sending me

848
00:34:31,834 --> 00:34:33,314
Speaker 1: to the shops every five seconds to get in your

849
00:34:33,314 --> 00:34:35,553
Speaker 1: pajamas and she needs to be a cardigan and she's

850
00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:38,274
Speaker 1: very cute. She's missing her shopping because we are both

851
00:34:38,354 --> 00:34:40,913
Speaker 1: shopping atticts, so she sent me up to Suzann to

852
00:34:40,914 --> 00:34:44,594
Speaker 1: get a bunch of pajamas. I do always shop Suzanne's sleepwear,

853
00:34:44,674 --> 00:34:46,513
Speaker 1: but I normally shop online. So I'm in a shopping center.

854
00:34:46,554 --> 00:34:48,274
Speaker 1: I do not know a really good one by the way. Yeah,

855
00:34:48,274 --> 00:34:50,514
Speaker 1: but there's great stores there. And you know how the

856
00:34:50,554 --> 00:34:53,314
Speaker 1: white tank is the top of summer. It's just everyone's

857
00:34:53,354 --> 00:34:55,953
Speaker 1: doing a classic white tank. But it can be so

858
00:34:56,194 --> 00:34:58,553
Speaker 1: hard to find the right too high neck, you can't

859
00:34:58,554 --> 00:35:02,154
Speaker 1: wear a brah blah, blah blah. The Susan Rear scoop

860
00:35:02,234 --> 00:35:07,194
Speaker 1: tank top nice like not too low yet, good neckline.

861
00:35:06,674 --> 00:35:07,874
Speaker 4: Good thingness of the strap.

862
00:35:07,954 --> 00:35:11,754
Speaker 1: You can wear a proper bra, Donnie. I have mine

863
00:35:11,794 --> 00:35:13,274
Speaker 1: in the car. I was going to show you, but

864
00:35:13,314 --> 00:35:16,754
Speaker 1: I've wore it two days ago. Twenty nine to ninety nine.

865
00:35:16,994 --> 00:35:20,994
Speaker 1: Comes to white black and I think a navy's good

866
00:35:21,274 --> 00:35:24,714
Speaker 1: midnight and a nice like it's not it's nowhere near

867
00:35:24,794 --> 00:35:26,634
Speaker 1: shre like it's thick enough. Like what am I trying

868
00:35:26,634 --> 00:35:28,194
Speaker 1: to say? You want to wear a T shirt? Bruh, Yes,

869
00:35:28,554 --> 00:35:30,873
Speaker 1: but it's just so flattering. And I did bring mine

870
00:35:30,874 --> 00:35:32,354
Speaker 1: in the car, and I realized what's covered in foundation

871
00:35:32,354 --> 00:35:33,913
Speaker 1: because I've worn it for like three days in a row.

872
00:35:34,074 --> 00:35:36,194
Speaker 1: And also I signed up when I was buying forty

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