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Soldier on two People. 21 00:01:08,304 --> 00:01:11,424 Speaker 4: One big reveal, I Never told you A simple card 22 00:01:11,464 --> 00:01:13,504 Speaker 4: game where one question could change everything. 23 00:01:13,824 --> 00:01:17,224 Speaker 2: It starts like, what's more things I'm not going to 24 00:01:17,304 --> 00:01:18,144 Speaker 2: answer that. 25 00:01:18,944 --> 00:01:21,504 Speaker 4: Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever. 26 00:01:21,744 --> 00:01:24,464 Speaker 4: As they finished this sentence, I never told you this. 27 00:01:24,704 --> 00:01:26,664 Speaker 1: I've never told you. They never told you this. 28 00:01:29,704 --> 00:01:33,424 Speaker 4: Today Reality TV influences mother and daughter duo Mary and 29 00:01:33,464 --> 00:01:36,824 Speaker 4: Martha Calipadidas will be sitting down together quite nervous. 30 00:01:36,824 --> 00:01:38,024 Speaker 1: But I'm always nervous. 31 00:01:38,624 --> 00:01:40,864 Speaker 4: Mary has something big to reveal to her daughter. 32 00:01:41,064 --> 00:01:43,584 Speaker 5: I don't think she's expecting me to say what I'm 33 00:01:43,624 --> 00:01:44,224 Speaker 5: going to say. 34 00:01:45,384 --> 00:01:46,144 Speaker 1: Welcome, Martha. 35 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:47,704 Speaker 3: Oh, thanks for having me Mary. 36 00:01:47,744 --> 00:01:49,304 Speaker 1: This is a bit new for us. 37 00:01:49,344 --> 00:01:49,664 Speaker 3: I know. 38 00:01:50,024 --> 00:01:50,464 Speaker 1: Welcome. 39 00:01:51,184 --> 00:01:54,344 Speaker 5: So today we're going to play a little game with 40 00:01:54,504 --> 00:01:56,224 Speaker 5: the Medibank family roast cards. 41 00:01:56,264 --> 00:01:59,024 Speaker 1: Are you ready to play? Yes, let's get into this game. 42 00:01:59,144 --> 00:02:01,384 Speaker 1: I think we need a little game. So who picks? 43 00:02:01,424 --> 00:02:01,624 Speaker 6: Here? 44 00:02:01,744 --> 00:02:05,864 Speaker 1: You go for it? Oh? Are you ready? Oh? 45 00:02:05,904 --> 00:02:09,624 Speaker 5: What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you ever followed? 46 00:02:09,824 --> 00:02:13,384 Speaker 3: Those things Famy belts that were like a boob troop 47 00:02:13,424 --> 00:02:15,584 Speaker 3: and we'd wear them over the jeans. That has to 48 00:02:15,624 --> 00:02:17,984 Speaker 3: be one of the ugliest things I ever did. I'm 49 00:02:17,984 --> 00:02:20,144 Speaker 3: five foot two and that made me four foot two. 50 00:02:20,344 --> 00:02:23,224 Speaker 1: I probably told you, but you wouldn't probably listen. 51 00:02:23,264 --> 00:02:24,784 Speaker 3: Here we go. She had to throw that one in 52 00:02:24,824 --> 00:02:27,904 Speaker 3: my face and just saying, kid, just saying, all right, 53 00:02:27,944 --> 00:02:31,024 Speaker 3: so I'll pick a card. Oh, what is something I 54 00:02:31,264 --> 00:02:33,984 Speaker 3: do that grosses you out? I don't think you do 55 00:02:34,064 --> 00:02:37,784 Speaker 3: anything they do not. No, that's right, good answer, Mary? 56 00:02:37,944 --> 00:02:38,584 Speaker 1: What about me? 57 00:02:39,144 --> 00:02:41,784 Speaker 3: I don't because I can say so many things. 58 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:43,064 Speaker 1: I bring it to the table. 59 00:02:43,304 --> 00:02:46,944 Speaker 3: Cutting your cuticles, well, that's just like meditation. If you 60 00:02:46,944 --> 00:02:48,704 Speaker 3: go and get that done and then you like to 61 00:02:48,744 --> 00:02:51,264 Speaker 3: do more and just keep cutting the cuticles, it must 62 00:02:51,344 --> 00:02:53,584 Speaker 3: be a nervous It's definitely a nervous habit. 63 00:02:53,704 --> 00:02:57,424 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take that, all right, you go next? Oh 64 00:02:57,584 --> 00:03:01,104 Speaker 1: is that me? Oh? What do you think your most 65 00:03:01,504 --> 00:03:04,024 Speaker 1: useless talent is? You got plenty of those. 66 00:03:04,144 --> 00:03:06,224 Speaker 3: I don't think I've got any. I just there's no 67 00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:08,304 Speaker 3: timeless for uselessness in our family. 68 00:03:08,584 --> 00:03:09,184 Speaker 1: I agree. 69 00:03:09,384 --> 00:03:11,864 Speaker 3: What about how you can when you start singing every 70 00:03:11,904 --> 00:03:15,584 Speaker 3: single commercial song that's ever come on since like nineteen. 71 00:03:15,264 --> 00:03:20,504 Speaker 1: Eighty fifties from the Earth. I'm going to pick the 72 00:03:20,544 --> 00:03:25,144 Speaker 1: next card. I never told you this. 73 00:03:29,584 --> 00:03:34,864 Speaker 5: When you went on reality TV, all these comments would 74 00:03:34,864 --> 00:03:39,384 Speaker 5: come in on social media. It actually affected me. But 75 00:03:39,504 --> 00:03:42,184 Speaker 5: I didn't want to show you that it was affecting me. 76 00:03:42,744 --> 00:03:45,544 Speaker 5: All these comments that were coming in and I'd be 77 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:47,984 Speaker 5: staying up till three four in the morning, and I 78 00:03:48,024 --> 00:03:52,344 Speaker 5: didn't realize how toxic social media can be. I didn't 79 00:03:52,344 --> 00:03:55,784 Speaker 5: know as a parent how I can comfort you. 80 00:03:55,824 --> 00:03:58,384 Speaker 3: No, I can totally understand how that would have affected you. 81 00:03:58,944 --> 00:04:02,384 Speaker 3: With the trolls on the internet, they think they know me, 82 00:04:02,624 --> 00:04:04,784 Speaker 3: but you really know me, and so you were reading 83 00:04:04,824 --> 00:04:07,264 Speaker 3: things that weren't true, and then that would be just 84 00:04:07,384 --> 00:04:08,384 Speaker 3: endless cycle. 85 00:04:08,584 --> 00:04:11,304 Speaker 5: Now you're a parent, and I'm sure you would probably 86 00:04:11,304 --> 00:04:11,704 Speaker 5: do the. 87 00:04:11,624 --> 00:04:14,544 Speaker 3: Same now that I'm a parent, I just want to 88 00:04:14,584 --> 00:04:16,704 Speaker 3: protect him from everything. 89 00:04:16,304 --> 00:04:17,544 Speaker 1: I could only imagine. 90 00:04:17,584 --> 00:04:19,144 Speaker 5: And that's why I didn't want to burden you with 91 00:04:19,544 --> 00:04:23,104 Speaker 5: I've got anxiety, I can't sleep, I was I had 92 00:04:23,144 --> 00:04:24,544 Speaker 5: shortness of breath, like I was. 93 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:27,304 Speaker 1: Thinking a mom, don't yeah, but that's how it was. 94 00:04:28,744 --> 00:04:31,024 Speaker 3: I think to some degree, I did have some idea, 95 00:04:31,024 --> 00:04:34,784 Speaker 3: because you did start acting really strange. I definitely think 96 00:04:34,904 --> 00:04:37,784 Speaker 3: I know you were staying up really late looking at comments, 97 00:04:37,864 --> 00:04:41,224 Speaker 3: and I remember just being too like, don't worry about it, man, 98 00:04:41,344 --> 00:04:42,264 Speaker 3: like it's fine. 99 00:04:42,504 --> 00:04:44,144 Speaker 1: But I think at the time. 100 00:04:45,344 --> 00:04:47,344 Speaker 3: I didn't want to show you either that it was 101 00:04:47,384 --> 00:04:49,704 Speaker 3: affecting me, so I would just say oh to you, 102 00:04:49,824 --> 00:04:52,224 Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter, but really, like I would be 103 00:04:52,264 --> 00:04:54,624 Speaker 3: in my room staying up breathing the comments as well. 104 00:04:54,704 --> 00:04:56,984 Speaker 3: So I have anxiety myself. I don't even know what 105 00:04:56,984 --> 00:04:58,224 Speaker 3: to do with it. Do you know how to deal 106 00:04:58,224 --> 00:04:59,704 Speaker 3: with it? I feel like we don't really know how to. 107 00:04:59,704 --> 00:05:00,064 Speaker 1: Deal with it. 108 00:05:00,104 --> 00:05:02,144 Speaker 3: We just kind of move on with the day and 109 00:05:02,264 --> 00:05:03,944 Speaker 3: just keep the day going. But it doesn't mean that 110 00:05:03,944 --> 00:05:04,984 Speaker 3: the anxiety goes. 111 00:05:04,864 --> 00:05:12,184 Speaker 6: Away the rest of this episode of I never told 112 00:05:12,184 --> 00:05:14,104 Speaker 6: you this right after the break. 113 00:05:17,464 --> 00:05:20,304 Speaker 5: Thinking back, I should have just been more open and 114 00:05:20,344 --> 00:05:22,824 Speaker 5: told you, like, you know what, it's normal to feel 115 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:24,824 Speaker 5: this way because I'm feeling this way. 116 00:05:24,984 --> 00:05:26,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if this had done that, we probably 117 00:05:26,984 --> 00:05:29,304 Speaker 3: would have been able to, you know, commune and pack 118 00:05:29,424 --> 00:05:31,384 Speaker 3: it and then just deal with it in the open 119 00:05:31,384 --> 00:05:33,104 Speaker 3: instead of dealing with it separately in. 120 00:05:33,104 --> 00:05:34,704 Speaker 1: Our different rooms. Yeah. 121 00:05:34,744 --> 00:05:37,544 Speaker 3: But that's very That's very much what our family does, 122 00:05:37,624 --> 00:05:41,744 Speaker 3: though we're not very good at revealing, which is strange 123 00:05:42,104 --> 00:05:46,264 Speaker 3: because we're so open, that's about everything about movements and everything, 124 00:05:46,424 --> 00:05:49,104 Speaker 3: because we've brought up to be like quite hard and 125 00:05:49,184 --> 00:05:50,584 Speaker 3: like strong and tarody. 126 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:52,104 Speaker 1: No, you can't get over it. 127 00:05:52,224 --> 00:05:54,304 Speaker 3: Get up and just seize the day. It doesn't matter 128 00:05:54,304 --> 00:05:54,944 Speaker 3: how you're feeling. 129 00:05:55,264 --> 00:05:55,784 Speaker 1: Soldier on. 130 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:59,584 Speaker 5: When I was growing up, our parents were very strict. 131 00:05:59,624 --> 00:06:02,064 Speaker 5: They never showed emotion. They never you know, I. 132 00:06:02,064 --> 00:06:03,264 Speaker 3: Just find that hard to believe. 133 00:06:03,344 --> 00:06:03,544 Speaker 6: Yeah. 134 00:06:03,584 --> 00:06:08,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, is like the most softest, sweetest, gentlest, emotional, loving caring. 135 00:06:09,064 --> 00:06:10,824 Speaker 1: It wasn't when we were growing up. I just find 136 00:06:10,864 --> 00:06:16,664 Speaker 1: it hard to believe she was strict. Get up old age. 137 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:18,664 Speaker 3: It really softens you. 138 00:06:18,744 --> 00:06:21,904 Speaker 1: It breaks you down. 139 00:06:23,504 --> 00:06:26,864 Speaker 5: With like searching and being like my own little detective. 140 00:06:27,304 --> 00:06:30,104 Speaker 5: I noticed that a lot of these comments weren't coming 141 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:32,864 Speaker 5: from young kids that were just being mean. 142 00:06:32,984 --> 00:06:35,384 Speaker 1: These were from parents that had kids. 143 00:06:35,624 --> 00:06:39,544 Speaker 5: How could you try and destroy someone else's child. People 144 00:06:39,584 --> 00:06:42,664 Speaker 5: want kids to be kind, but they don't teach them 145 00:06:42,864 --> 00:06:45,624 Speaker 5: the tools to be kind and not to bring other 146 00:06:45,664 --> 00:06:48,104 Speaker 5: people down, you know, like kids are mean today. 147 00:06:48,744 --> 00:06:50,984 Speaker 3: I hate that I was to learn that from somewhere. 148 00:06:51,064 --> 00:06:53,704 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. The parents are the 149 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:55,624 Speaker 5: ones that need to actually change. 150 00:06:56,144 --> 00:06:58,104 Speaker 3: I kind of feel a bit sad for you in 151 00:06:58,104 --> 00:06:59,664 Speaker 3: a way that you kind of dealt with that on 152 00:06:59,704 --> 00:07:00,104 Speaker 3: your own. 153 00:07:01,264 --> 00:07:03,664 Speaker 1: That's what parents do, you know. 154 00:07:03,744 --> 00:07:06,784 Speaker 5: They try to protect. I think their kids as much 155 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:07,424 Speaker 5: as they can. 156 00:07:07,744 --> 00:07:07,944 Speaker 3: You know. 157 00:07:10,184 --> 00:07:14,704 Speaker 5: You're son was dealing with anxiety. How would you help him? 158 00:07:15,104 --> 00:07:15,744 Speaker 1: Growing up? 159 00:07:15,944 --> 00:07:19,904 Speaker 3: You always said those that matter don't mind, and those 160 00:07:19,944 --> 00:07:22,664 Speaker 3: that mind don't matter. It doesn't really matter because who 161 00:07:22,704 --> 00:07:25,024 Speaker 3: are these people to you? As long as like you know, you, 162 00:07:25,024 --> 00:07:27,464 Speaker 3: your friends, your family, the people that you care about, 163 00:07:27,944 --> 00:07:30,344 Speaker 3: the opinions of others don't really matter. 164 00:07:31,464 --> 00:07:37,864 Speaker 1: That's good. At least you've got something those years. Yeah, 165 00:07:37,864 --> 00:07:39,144 Speaker 1: it's not easy being a parent. 166 00:07:39,224 --> 00:07:41,584 Speaker 3: It's so not It's the hardest thing ever. It's so 167 00:07:41,704 --> 00:07:46,624 Speaker 3: not easy being a parent. I appreciate it. Oh, thank you, Mary. 168 00:07:46,744 --> 00:07:52,264 Speaker 3: No worries anytime. Yeah, and it's nice to know that 169 00:07:52,304 --> 00:07:54,784 Speaker 3: you're human under all that. Yeah, it's nice to know 170 00:07:54,824 --> 00:07:57,784 Speaker 3: that under all there there is actually some flesh and blood. 171 00:07:58,904 --> 00:07:59,984 Speaker 3: Well done, fish pump. 172 00:08:00,424 --> 00:08:02,064 Speaker 1: Oh is that something we do still? 173 00:08:08,824 --> 00:08:11,744 Speaker 6: This episode was brought to you by Medibank. Live Better 174 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:15,384 Speaker 6: with Medibank. 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