1 00:00:06,415 --> 00:00:11,615 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,815 --> 00:00:15,214 Speaker 2: Good morning from gadigal Land. 3 00:00:15,295 --> 00:00:19,295 Speaker 1: I'm Taylor Strano. Hey, what's happening in Iran? You've probably 4 00:00:19,295 --> 00:00:22,535 Speaker 1: seen across your social feeds the deadly protests erupting in 5 00:00:22,535 --> 00:00:24,095 Speaker 1: the streets at the capital of Tehran. 6 00:00:24,335 --> 00:00:25,175 Speaker 3: But why? 7 00:00:25,935 --> 00:00:28,295 Speaker 1: Middle East expert rash Is Ezzi will join us to 8 00:00:28,335 --> 00:00:32,455 Speaker 1: explain the unfolding situation in Iran. Plus, Award season has 9 00:00:32,534 --> 00:00:36,495 Speaker 1: kicked off in Hollywood with the Golden Globes. Entertainment reporter 10 00:00:36,615 --> 00:00:40,054 Speaker 1: Tara Watson has all the dramas, speeches, wins and missus, 11 00:00:40,335 --> 00:00:42,934 Speaker 1: plus the latest on our very own Aussie Golden Girl 12 00:00:43,015 --> 00:00:46,734 Speaker 1: Rose Byrn, who scooped up her first Globe. Before we 13 00:00:46,775 --> 00:00:49,734 Speaker 1: get there, Clare Murphy's here with the news headlines for Tuesday, 14 00:00:49,934 --> 00:00:51,894 Speaker 1: January thirteenth. 15 00:00:51,735 --> 00:00:55,855 Speaker 4: Thanks Taylor. Parliament's powerful Intelligence and Security Committee will today 16 00:00:55,895 --> 00:00:59,215 Speaker 4: scrutinize the new hate speech laws motivated by the Bondai 17 00:00:59,335 --> 00:01:02,815 Speaker 4: terror attack. The Home Affairs and Attorney General's Departments, as 18 00:01:02,855 --> 00:01:06,015 Speaker 4: well as the Australian Federal Police and ASIO will also 19 00:01:06,055 --> 00:01:08,775 Speaker 4: be involved in looking at the legislation, which will be 20 00:01:08,855 --> 00:01:12,215 Speaker 4: introduced to Parliament on Monday, where MPs will also be 21 00:01:12,255 --> 00:01:15,295 Speaker 4: given time to speak on a condolence motion. Following the 22 00:01:15,335 --> 00:01:19,295 Speaker 4: anti Semitic attack at Bondai Beach that claimed fifteen innocent lives. 23 00:01:19,615 --> 00:01:22,815 Speaker 4: The new laws will create offenses for publicly promoting or 24 00:01:22,855 --> 00:01:26,975 Speaker 4: inciting racial hatred. A person deemed to have disseminated ideas 25 00:01:27,015 --> 00:01:31,095 Speaker 4: of superiority over or promoted or incited hatred against another 26 00:01:31,135 --> 00:01:34,175 Speaker 4: person or group because of race, color, or national or 27 00:01:34,255 --> 00:01:38,295 Speaker 4: ethnic origin faces five years behind bars. According to the 28 00:01:38,335 --> 00:01:41,575 Speaker 4: draft legislation, it would be an offense if the conduct would, 29 00:01:41,735 --> 00:01:45,255 Speaker 4: in all the circumstances, cause a reasonable person who is 30 00:01:45,255 --> 00:01:47,935 Speaker 4: the target or a member of the target group, to 31 00:01:47,935 --> 00:01:51,255 Speaker 4: be intimidated to fear harassment or violence, or to fear 32 00:01:51,255 --> 00:01:54,775 Speaker 4: for their safety. The coalition already has some concerns over 33 00:01:54,815 --> 00:01:58,495 Speaker 4: the text, including a passage that exempts directly quoting from, 34 00:01:58,855 --> 00:02:01,975 Speaker 4: or otherwise referencing a religious text for the purpose of 35 00:02:02,015 --> 00:02:05,375 Speaker 4: religious teaching or discussion. The coalition is concerned that this 36 00:02:05,615 --> 00:02:08,975 Speaker 4: may fail to tackle some radical Islamic preachers who would 37 00:02:08,975 --> 00:02:11,695 Speaker 4: be able to fall back on that defense. There's also 38 00:02:11,815 --> 00:02:16,055 Speaker 4: some pushback on proposed gun reforms. The small Highland community 39 00:02:16,095 --> 00:02:19,095 Speaker 4: of Jungella, west of Mackay and Queensland is expected to 40 00:02:19,135 --> 00:02:22,294 Speaker 4: be cut off up to three months as floodwaters continue 41 00:02:22,295 --> 00:02:25,695 Speaker 4: to rise. Aerial footage posted on social media shows the 42 00:02:25,735 --> 00:02:29,295 Speaker 4: steep mountain road blocked by huge landslips, with the bitumen 43 00:02:29,415 --> 00:02:33,334 Speaker 4: buckled and large sections falling away. The Bureau of Meteorology 44 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:35,615 Speaker 4: has issued a severe weather warning for much of the 45 00:02:35,695 --> 00:02:40,015 Speaker 4: Central Coast and Capricornia districts, extending inland into the Central 46 00:02:40,055 --> 00:02:42,535 Speaker 4: Highlands and the coal fields of the Bow and Basin, 47 00:02:42,855 --> 00:02:45,935 Speaker 4: and while rain was extending into southeast Queensland, it's the 48 00:02:45,975 --> 00:02:49,495 Speaker 4: northwest that's again most under threat, with widespread rain and 49 00:02:49,535 --> 00:02:53,135 Speaker 4: storms returning to the area today and tomorrow. Meanwhile, easing 50 00:02:53,175 --> 00:02:56,855 Speaker 4: weather conditions I helping firefighters in Victoria contain blazers that 51 00:02:56,895 --> 00:03:00,375 Speaker 4: have been burning since late last week. Authorities have described 52 00:03:00,375 --> 00:03:02,495 Speaker 4: the emergency as the worst of its kind since the 53 00:03:02,575 --> 00:03:06,495 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen twenty twenty Black Summer, which killed thirty three people. 54 00:03:06,815 --> 00:03:10,495 Speaker 4: The body of cattle farmer Max Hobson was identified yesterday 55 00:03:10,735 --> 00:03:14,255 Speaker 4: as a single victim of this bushfire event. Some residents 56 00:03:14,295 --> 00:03:17,095 Speaker 4: returned to Nattermark in the state's northwest to assess the 57 00:03:17,175 --> 00:03:20,975 Speaker 4: damage yesterday. Around thirty homes have been completely destroyed in 58 00:03:20,975 --> 00:03:24,095 Speaker 4: the town. Authorities said the threat from the massive Longwood 59 00:03:24,095 --> 00:03:27,655 Speaker 4: fire in central Victoria has eased with cooler temperatures and 60 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:30,815 Speaker 4: lighter winds, aiding efforts to bring it under control. Another 61 00:03:30,895 --> 00:03:33,614 Speaker 4: major fire close to the Otways in the state's southwest 62 00:03:33,855 --> 00:03:38,695 Speaker 4: was also downgraded. Britain's media regulator has launched an investigation 63 00:03:38,815 --> 00:03:42,135 Speaker 4: into Elon Musk's X to determine whether allowing its groc 64 00:03:42,215 --> 00:03:46,295 Speaker 4: Ai chatbot to produce sexually intimate deep fakes violates its 65 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:48,895 Speaker 4: duty to protect the people in the UK from content 66 00:03:48,935 --> 00:03:51,855 Speaker 4: that could be illegal. In a statement, the regulator said 67 00:03:51,855 --> 00:03:54,735 Speaker 4: that there have been deeply concerning reports of the Grocai 68 00:03:54,935 --> 00:03:57,975 Speaker 4: chatbot account on X being used to create and share 69 00:03:58,135 --> 00:04:01,775 Speaker 4: undressed images of people which may amount to intimate image 70 00:04:01,815 --> 00:04:06,095 Speaker 4: abuse or pornography, and sexualized images of children may amount 71 00:04:06,135 --> 00:04:10,015 Speaker 4: to child sexual abuse material. X has faced condemnation in 72 00:04:10,055 --> 00:04:13,015 Speaker 4: other countries over the feature, which can produce images of 73 00:04:13,015 --> 00:04:16,735 Speaker 4: women and miners in skimpy clothing. French officials have reported 74 00:04:16,855 --> 00:04:21,135 Speaker 4: X to prosecutors and regulators, calling the content manifestly illegal, 75 00:04:21,295 --> 00:04:25,095 Speaker 4: while Indian authorities have also demanded an explanation. X has 76 00:04:25,175 --> 00:04:29,214 Speaker 4: now restricted the feature to paying users only. Mattel is 77 00:04:29,335 --> 00:04:32,895 Speaker 4: introducing an autistic Barbie as the newest member of its line. 78 00:04:32,895 --> 00:04:36,335 Speaker 4: Intended to celebrate diversity. The newest Barbie will join a 79 00:04:36,375 --> 00:04:40,135 Speaker 4: collection that already includes barbies with Down syndrome, a blind Barbie, 80 00:04:40,175 --> 00:04:43,214 Speaker 4: and a Barbie in ken with vitelaigo. Mattel said it 81 00:04:43,295 --> 00:04:46,295 Speaker 4: developed the autistic doll over more than eighteen months in 82 00:04:46,375 --> 00:04:50,455 Speaker 4: partnership with the Autistic Self Advocacy Network, a nonprofit organization 83 00:04:50,535 --> 00:04:53,335 Speaker 4: that advocates for the rights and better media representation of 84 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:56,575 Speaker 4: people with autism. They said it was a challenge because 85 00:04:56,615 --> 00:05:00,415 Speaker 4: autism encompasses a broad range of behaviors and difficulties that 86 00:05:00,535 --> 00:05:03,495 Speaker 4: vary widely in degree, and many of the traits associated 87 00:05:03,535 --> 00:05:06,735 Speaker 4: with the disorder and not immediately visible. The eyes of 88 00:05:06,775 --> 00:05:09,295 Speaker 4: the new Barbie shift slightly to the side to represent 89 00:05:09,335 --> 00:05:12,535 Speaker 4: how some people with autism sometimes avoid direct eye contact. 90 00:05:12,815 --> 00:05:16,094 Speaker 4: The doll was also given articulated elbows and wrists to 91 00:05:16,175 --> 00:05:19,895 Speaker 4: acknowledge stimming, hand flapping, and other gestures that some autistic 92 00:05:19,935 --> 00:05:24,055 Speaker 4: people use to process sensory information or express excitement. Each 93 00:05:24,095 --> 00:05:26,935 Speaker 4: doll comes with a pink finger clip, fidget spinner, noise 94 00:05:26,975 --> 00:05:30,534 Speaker 4: canceling headphones, and a pink tablet modeled after the devices 95 00:05:30,575 --> 00:05:33,654 Speaker 4: some autistic people who struggle to speak used to communicate. 96 00:05:34,135 --> 00:05:35,175 Speaker 2: Thanks Claire Next. 97 00:05:35,415 --> 00:05:54,975 Speaker 1: Unpacking Iran's deadly protests. For weeks now, Iran has been 98 00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:57,815 Speaker 1: rocked by some of the biggest anti government protests the 99 00:05:57,855 --> 00:06:01,335 Speaker 1: country has seen in years. What started as anger over 100 00:06:01,375 --> 00:06:04,495 Speaker 1: the cost of living has quickly turned into people openly 101 00:06:04,575 --> 00:06:07,935 Speaker 1: calling for the end of the Islamic Republic itself. So 102 00:06:08,175 --> 00:06:11,695 Speaker 1: what pushed an already tightly controlled country to this breaking point? 103 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:15,974 Speaker 1: What started as demonstrations on the streets of Iran's capital, Tehran, 104 00:06:16,135 --> 00:06:19,015 Speaker 1: has spread fast to dozens of cities in towns right 105 00:06:19,015 --> 00:06:23,455 Speaker 1: across the country. There are videos of crowns and residential neighborhoods, 106 00:06:23,455 --> 00:06:27,815 Speaker 1: on university campuses and in commercial districts chanting against the government, 107 00:06:28,495 --> 00:06:31,815 Speaker 1: the same government, who, in response, has turned off internet 108 00:06:31,855 --> 00:06:34,895 Speaker 1: and mobile services in attempts to shut down these protests 109 00:06:34,975 --> 00:06:37,535 Speaker 1: and black out their broadcasts to the rest of the world. 110 00:06:38,175 --> 00:06:42,895 Speaker 1: The spark for these displays was money. Iran's currency, the 111 00:06:42,975 --> 00:06:46,415 Speaker 1: real has crashed, losing around forty to forty five percent 112 00:06:46,455 --> 00:06:49,255 Speaker 1: to its value against the US dollar over the past year. 113 00:06:49,775 --> 00:06:53,255 Speaker 1: For locals, that's made basics like food, rent and medicine 114 00:06:53,335 --> 00:06:57,655 Speaker 1: suddenly unaffordable for many families. Inflation is running at more 115 00:06:57,695 --> 00:07:01,055 Speaker 1: than forty percent. Prices of staples like cooking oil and 116 00:07:01,175 --> 00:07:04,654 Speaker 1: chicken have jumped overnight, and some items have simply disappeared 117 00:07:04,655 --> 00:07:08,855 Speaker 1: from supermarket ss. But the anger isn't just about groceries. 118 00:07:09,015 --> 00:07:12,015 Speaker 1: Iranians are furious that their government spends money and attention 119 00:07:12,135 --> 00:07:15,775 Speaker 1: on foreign conflicts and allies instead of fixing life at home. 120 00:07:16,535 --> 00:07:18,775 Speaker 1: That's why a lot of the chance go way beyond 121 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:22,295 Speaker 1: fix the economy. Protesters are shouting things like death to 122 00:07:22,335 --> 00:07:25,855 Speaker 1: the dictator and neither Gaza nor Lebanon my life for Iran, 123 00:07:26,375 --> 00:07:28,735 Speaker 1: which is a direct wife at the ruling system and 124 00:07:28,775 --> 00:07:32,975 Speaker 1: its priorities. To understand who protesters are taken to the 125 00:07:32,975 --> 00:07:36,095 Speaker 1: streets against, you need to understand how Iran is set up. 126 00:07:36,575 --> 00:07:39,655 Speaker 1: On paper, It's an Islamic republic with a president and 127 00:07:39,695 --> 00:07:42,495 Speaker 1: a parliament, but the real power sits with one man, 128 00:07:42,855 --> 00:07:47,375 Speaker 1: Supreme Leader, Ayatola Ali Hamani. He's an unelected religious figure 129 00:07:47,535 --> 00:07:50,655 Speaker 1: who sits above the president, controls the armed forces and 130 00:07:50,815 --> 00:07:55,415 Speaker 1: the powerful revolutionary guards. Essentially, he can overrule or block 131 00:07:55,455 --> 00:07:59,455 Speaker 1: what the elected government does. Human rights groups say authorities 132 00:07:59,495 --> 00:08:03,335 Speaker 1: have used live ammunition, tear gas, and brutal beatings. Advocacy 133 00:08:03,335 --> 00:08:06,895 Speaker 1: agencies scrambling to provide an accurate death toll. So far, 134 00:08:07,135 --> 00:08:12,895 Speaker 1: numbers vary from sixty to five hundred. Arashia is an 135 00:08:12,935 --> 00:08:16,735 Speaker 1: Iranian historian and academic at Yale University. He's also the 136 00:08:16,775 --> 00:08:21,055 Speaker 1: author of What Iranians Want a Rash. These displays started 137 00:08:21,095 --> 00:08:22,535 Speaker 1: as cost of living protests? 138 00:08:22,695 --> 00:08:24,295 Speaker 2: How did they turn so deadly? 139 00:08:25,775 --> 00:08:29,255 Speaker 3: They turned deadly because the Islamic Republic has no answer 140 00:08:29,815 --> 00:08:32,934 Speaker 3: to people's demands and it cracks down on them. I 141 00:08:32,934 --> 00:08:36,214 Speaker 3: should also say that, yes, they were cost of living protests, 142 00:08:36,255 --> 00:08:39,095 Speaker 3: but they were also from the very outset political protests 143 00:08:39,175 --> 00:08:42,375 Speaker 3: rejecting the entirety of the regime. That's because in Iran 144 00:08:42,495 --> 00:08:45,814 Speaker 3: we have an unaccountable regime. One man called Auto Lakhamani, 145 00:08:45,895 --> 00:08:48,535 Speaker 3: who is turning eighty seven in April, has ruled the 146 00:08:48,575 --> 00:08:51,375 Speaker 3: country since nineteen eighty nine. You know my entire life, 147 00:08:51,375 --> 00:08:53,935 Speaker 3: and I'm not that younger guy anymore. I was born 148 00:08:54,015 --> 00:08:57,895 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. Slogan's look death to dictator were shouted 149 00:08:57,975 --> 00:09:02,175 Speaker 3: very early on, and really there is a vast understanding Iran. 150 00:09:02,415 --> 00:09:05,255 Speaker 3: A very large number of people, including even some horse 151 00:09:05,495 --> 00:09:07,455 Speaker 3: having inside the regime in Vombay or the other. This 152 00:09:07,535 --> 00:09:09,135 Speaker 3: regime needs to go and it needs to change its 153 00:09:09,175 --> 00:09:11,095 Speaker 3: core policies and its core structures are faced. 154 00:09:11,175 --> 00:09:13,495 Speaker 1: Some of the other things that we've seen coming out 155 00:09:13,495 --> 00:09:17,895 Speaker 1: of a run in recent days criticism of the Iranian 156 00:09:18,295 --> 00:09:22,335 Speaker 1: authority getting involved in other conflicts. So there's been criticism 157 00:09:22,375 --> 00:09:24,975 Speaker 1: on the involvement in Gaza and also in Lebanon in 158 00:09:25,054 --> 00:09:27,615 Speaker 1: amongst things like wanting to topple the regime. And then 159 00:09:27,655 --> 00:09:29,975 Speaker 1: of course those cost of living protests that you've mentioned 160 00:09:30,015 --> 00:09:33,415 Speaker 1: as well. Is that all valid criticism and concern for 161 00:09:33,575 --> 00:09:35,095 Speaker 1: Iranians currently living there. 162 00:09:36,054 --> 00:09:38,495 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all linked to each other. Where are the 163 00:09:38,615 --> 00:09:39,975 Speaker 3: roots of our economic problems? 164 00:09:40,054 --> 00:09:40,175 Speaker 5: Right? 165 00:09:40,215 --> 00:09:43,455 Speaker 3: What are some of its main routes? So there is 166 00:09:43,535 --> 00:09:48,694 Speaker 3: mismanagement by unaccountable clique. Effectively, the Iranian estate has turned 167 00:09:48,695 --> 00:09:52,135 Speaker 3: into a bunch of competing mafias that enriched themselves. But 168 00:09:52,255 --> 00:09:55,855 Speaker 3: one of the policies that they you know, that allows 169 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:59,255 Speaker 3: this is Irans. For the last twenty years, Iran did 170 00:09:59,335 --> 00:10:01,655 Speaker 3: much to support these different Arab militias in the region, 171 00:10:01,655 --> 00:10:05,295 Speaker 3: effectively intervened in Arab nicias, spending billions of dollars in 172 00:10:05,335 --> 00:10:07,935 Speaker 3: there to keep the Syrian government in power. For example, 173 00:10:08,015 --> 00:10:10,655 Speaker 3: they spend billions of dollars, helped kill hundreds of thousands 174 00:10:10,655 --> 00:10:14,094 Speaker 3: of Syrian people, and of course the Syrian regim fell anyways. 175 00:10:14,295 --> 00:10:16,054 Speaker 3: So it's not just the money I spent on the 176 00:10:16,495 --> 00:10:21,335 Speaker 3: overseas adventures, but the overseas adventure helped internationally isolate Iran, 177 00:10:21,535 --> 00:10:24,815 Speaker 3: put more sanctions than Iran, therefore isolate the Iranian economy. 178 00:10:24,895 --> 00:10:26,694 Speaker 3: And an example I would give you by the way 179 00:10:26,695 --> 00:10:28,815 Speaker 3: of the sort of why are the Iranians saying this? 180 00:10:28,895 --> 00:10:31,255 Speaker 3: There is the slogan neither Gaza nor Lebanon, I give 181 00:10:31,295 --> 00:10:33,455 Speaker 3: my life for Iran. You know, you can compare it 182 00:10:33,575 --> 00:10:37,695 Speaker 3: to anti Vietnam War protests in US and Australia back 183 00:10:37,695 --> 00:10:40,215 Speaker 3: in the day, where there was you know, people didn't 184 00:10:40,215 --> 00:10:44,695 Speaker 3: want their government to intervene in Vietnam because they believe 185 00:10:44,775 --> 00:10:46,974 Speaker 3: that this wasn't a proper thing to do. So Iranians 186 00:10:46,975 --> 00:10:49,455 Speaker 3: are making a similar process. Their point is is a 187 00:10:49,495 --> 00:10:51,175 Speaker 3: non interventionist politics. 188 00:10:51,215 --> 00:10:54,214 Speaker 1: We've heard that the government there is turning off the 189 00:10:54,215 --> 00:10:58,335 Speaker 1: internet and phone service, effectively blocking information from getting in 190 00:10:58,495 --> 00:11:01,095 Speaker 1: or out of the country. Can you explain the significance 191 00:11:01,255 --> 00:11:04,175 Speaker 1: of why we should be concerned about that, and also 192 00:11:04,815 --> 00:11:06,574 Speaker 1: what have we managed to say come out of a 193 00:11:06,655 --> 00:11:08,214 Speaker 1: run in the last few days. 194 00:11:09,215 --> 00:11:11,495 Speaker 3: On a personal level, I can tell you, you know, 195 00:11:11,575 --> 00:11:14,695 Speaker 3: I have not been able to get in touch with family. 196 00:11:15,015 --> 00:11:17,055 Speaker 3: Sometimes to a friend of a friend of a friend 197 00:11:17,095 --> 00:11:18,814 Speaker 3: who's gotten in touch. You know, we can we can 198 00:11:18,855 --> 00:11:21,815 Speaker 3: hear world back to know who's doing well. I talk 199 00:11:21,895 --> 00:11:24,815 Speaker 3: to my grandmother three times, four times a week. I 200 00:11:24,855 --> 00:11:28,095 Speaker 3: haven't been able to talk to her, cousins, uncles, aunties. 201 00:11:28,575 --> 00:11:31,335 Speaker 3: Phones don't work, the internet doesn't work, and of course 202 00:11:31,335 --> 00:11:33,735 Speaker 3: the government does that in order to commit atrustities, and 203 00:11:33,775 --> 00:11:37,055 Speaker 3: by all accounts it's committing crazy atrocities as to what 204 00:11:37,135 --> 00:11:39,015 Speaker 3: we can get out. So there are people who have 205 00:11:39,054 --> 00:11:41,975 Speaker 3: access to starlink and others, activists and others, and who 206 00:11:42,135 --> 00:11:43,935 Speaker 3: send films here and there, so we do have an 207 00:11:44,215 --> 00:11:46,535 Speaker 3: image of what is happening, and what is happening is 208 00:11:46,935 --> 00:11:49,694 Speaker 3: massive process are still going on all over the country, 209 00:11:49,975 --> 00:11:52,574 Speaker 3: and you know, we have to see each day what happens. 210 00:11:52,615 --> 00:11:55,655 Speaker 3: The course of protests are unpredictable in many ways, but 211 00:11:56,455 --> 00:11:59,095 Speaker 3: they do seem to have faced more brutal repression than 212 00:11:59,135 --> 00:12:00,095 Speaker 3: they would have expected. 213 00:12:00,215 --> 00:12:02,695 Speaker 1: What's the end goal here, Arash, I mean, is it 214 00:12:03,054 --> 00:12:05,415 Speaker 1: a matter of that the regime needs to be top all? 215 00:12:05,695 --> 00:12:06,735 Speaker 2: Is that even possible? 216 00:12:07,815 --> 00:12:10,735 Speaker 3: The end goal for me is a democratic transition, and 217 00:12:10,775 --> 00:12:13,615 Speaker 3: that's the goal on which many people in Iran agree, 218 00:12:13,655 --> 00:12:16,335 Speaker 3: different political leaders agree. So yes, it would be a 219 00:12:16,375 --> 00:12:18,575 Speaker 3: form of topening of the regime. Now. I want as 220 00:12:18,615 --> 00:12:22,695 Speaker 3: peaceful a democratic transition as possible that looks like aol 221 00:12:22,735 --> 00:12:25,775 Speaker 3: A Hamany and the leadership with Islam Republic handing power 222 00:12:25,815 --> 00:12:27,775 Speaker 3: to some sort of a transitional body. It could even 223 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:30,095 Speaker 3: include some figures from inside the regime, some figures from 224 00:12:30,135 --> 00:12:33,615 Speaker 3: the opposition, and that they would organize the Constitution Assembly 225 00:12:33,695 --> 00:12:36,535 Speaker 3: so that each Iranian can have a vote. Iranians can vote, 226 00:12:36,575 --> 00:12:39,415 Speaker 3: and then their representatives can decide what form of government 227 00:12:39,455 --> 00:12:41,495 Speaker 3: we should have our future, what should be our constitution, 228 00:12:41,815 --> 00:12:45,095 Speaker 3: every founding as well, where it's possible or not. There 229 00:12:45,095 --> 00:12:48,455 Speaker 3: are many prerequests of this that have been met. There's 230 00:12:48,575 --> 00:12:51,815 Speaker 3: mass discontenters division of the elites. But the big missing 231 00:12:51,855 --> 00:12:54,574 Speaker 3: element that continues to be there is that we still 232 00:12:54,615 --> 00:12:59,255 Speaker 3: don't have a credible united opposition that is able to 233 00:12:59,295 --> 00:13:02,574 Speaker 3: pose an alternative to the regime and help pave this transition. Now, 234 00:13:03,015 --> 00:13:05,255 Speaker 3: the figure of Rezapality that that you might have heard about. 235 00:13:05,295 --> 00:13:08,655 Speaker 3: This is the former Crown Prince of Iran who lives 236 00:13:08,655 --> 00:13:10,495 Speaker 3: in the US and in American exile. He has many 237 00:13:10,495 --> 00:13:13,015 Speaker 3: supporters in iranman he have been changing his name. He's 238 00:13:13,095 --> 00:13:16,415 Speaker 3: stepped up. He calls himself a transitional leader. But unfortunately 239 00:13:16,415 --> 00:13:18,855 Speaker 3: he hasn't yet built and I hope maybe he does 240 00:13:18,855 --> 00:13:21,735 Speaker 3: something differently. He has not built a coalition, sort of 241 00:13:21,735 --> 00:13:25,615 Speaker 3: a diverse coalition that can effectively lead such a transition 242 00:13:25,655 --> 00:13:27,455 Speaker 3: and have the trust of Iranians band him. Not only 243 00:13:27,495 --> 00:13:30,175 Speaker 3: hasn't done that, sadly enough, in the last couple of years, 244 00:13:30,295 --> 00:13:33,655 Speaker 3: he's been actually a pretty divisive figure. That's the biggest 245 00:13:33,655 --> 00:13:35,575 Speaker 3: failing of the opponents of the regime that they have 246 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:37,655 Speaker 3: not been able to build this. And you know, Iranian 247 00:13:37,695 --> 00:13:39,775 Speaker 3: people have paid in hundreds of people have been killed 248 00:13:39,775 --> 00:13:42,375 Speaker 3: for this democratic transition, but you still don't have the 249 00:13:42,415 --> 00:13:43,455 Speaker 3: political vehicle to make it. 250 00:13:43,815 --> 00:13:45,815 Speaker 2: You're joining us from Boston. 251 00:13:45,935 --> 00:13:49,375 Speaker 1: The US President Donald Trump has been very vocal and 252 00:13:49,575 --> 00:13:51,694 Speaker 1: active in Middle Eastern affairs, especially in. 253 00:13:51,615 --> 00:13:52,855 Speaker 2: The last couple of years. 254 00:13:53,215 --> 00:13:55,495 Speaker 1: Do you think that he'll involve himself in the current 255 00:13:55,495 --> 00:13:56,295 Speaker 1: around situation? 256 00:13:57,615 --> 00:13:59,575 Speaker 3: Well, you know, there are two things that are hard 257 00:13:59,575 --> 00:14:01,575 Speaker 3: to predict in life. One of them is revolutions and 258 00:14:01,575 --> 00:14:03,255 Speaker 3: one of them is Donald Trump. And you know they 259 00:14:03,295 --> 00:14:06,415 Speaker 3: kind of meet here. He did threaten and the regime, 260 00:14:06,575 --> 00:14:08,335 Speaker 3: but it's not clear how he's going to act them. 261 00:14:08,375 --> 00:14:09,935 Speaker 3: And he said he was going to come to eight 262 00:14:09,975 --> 00:14:12,655 Speaker 3: of the protesters. Some Iranians are recurring for it, but 263 00:14:12,695 --> 00:14:14,935 Speaker 3: it's not clear what that actually means. If it means 264 00:14:14,975 --> 00:14:17,535 Speaker 3: military attack, I mean he can attack some Iranian military sites, 265 00:14:17,575 --> 00:14:20,495 Speaker 3: but that will have some sort of unpredictable consequences, but 266 00:14:20,535 --> 00:14:23,415 Speaker 3: also it won't be directly helping the Iranian protesters. If 267 00:14:23,415 --> 00:14:25,855 Speaker 3: Trump can engineer some sort of a move away from 268 00:14:25,895 --> 00:14:28,535 Speaker 3: the islam Republic by side landing harmony and giving a 269 00:14:28,615 --> 00:14:30,815 Speaker 3: chance to other figures inside the regime to bring about 270 00:14:31,055 --> 00:14:34,095 Speaker 3: a new page in the relationship with America, he might 271 00:14:34,135 --> 00:14:36,135 Speaker 3: take it, and in such an event would probably be 272 00:14:36,215 --> 00:14:38,615 Speaker 3: the biggest event to twenty's first century. And if you 273 00:14:38,655 --> 00:14:40,855 Speaker 3: know one thing about our president is that he likes 274 00:14:40,895 --> 00:14:44,175 Speaker 3: to have the ejective historic attached to what he does. 275 00:14:47,255 --> 00:14:50,855 Speaker 1: The eighteen third Golden Globes have kick started another award season. 276 00:14:51,175 --> 00:14:53,775 Speaker 1: Comedian Niki Glaizer was back to host for a second 277 00:14:53,855 --> 00:14:57,135 Speaker 1: year running, using her opening monologue to gently poke fun 278 00:14:57,215 --> 00:14:58,175 Speaker 1: at attends. 279 00:14:58,655 --> 00:15:00,095 Speaker 2: That's any good host should. 280 00:15:00,375 --> 00:15:02,455 Speaker 5: Everyone in this town is obsessed with looking younger. 281 00:15:02,535 --> 00:15:03,655 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Sean Pan is like. 282 00:15:03,655 --> 00:15:06,295 Speaker 4: What if I slowly morph into a sexy leather handbag 283 00:15:06,335 --> 00:15:06,895 Speaker 4: and I feel like. 284 00:15:06,855 --> 00:15:13,455 Speaker 2: That's it's fucked. It's good. Down to the Awards, Adolescent. 285 00:15:12,935 --> 00:15:16,695 Speaker 1: Secured four wins, including Best Limited Series, Best Actor, and 286 00:15:16,815 --> 00:15:21,175 Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor for creator Stephen Graham and newcomer Owen Cooper, respectively. 287 00:15:21,695 --> 00:15:23,135 Speaker 2: One Battle after another. 288 00:15:22,855 --> 00:15:26,455 Speaker 1: Clocked in as the most nominated project with nine chances 289 00:15:26,455 --> 00:15:29,615 Speaker 1: at bringing home a trophy. The Paul Thomas Anderson film 290 00:15:29,655 --> 00:15:32,815 Speaker 1: netted four of those nooms, including Best Supporting Actress in 291 00:15:32,935 --> 00:15:37,455 Speaker 1: Tianna Taylor and Best Director for Pta himself, while Amy 292 00:15:37,495 --> 00:15:40,775 Speaker 1: Poler's Good Hang was recognized as the inaugural winner of 293 00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:44,575 Speaker 1: the Best Podcast Award. As for the Aussies, four of 294 00:15:44,615 --> 00:15:48,615 Speaker 1: our best and brightest were wrapping down under this year. Unfortunately, 295 00:15:48,815 --> 00:15:53,335 Speaker 1: Jacob Aerlaordie, who was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in Frankenstein. 296 00:15:52,815 --> 00:15:54,975 Speaker 2: And Sarah Snook, who recently. 297 00:15:54,615 --> 00:15:57,255 Speaker 1: Won the Critics' Choice Award for All Her Faults, both 298 00:15:57,295 --> 00:16:00,975 Speaker 1: failed to grab a win this year. Del Edgerton nominated 299 00:16:00,975 --> 00:16:03,135 Speaker 1: for Best Actor in a Drama for his role in 300 00:16:03,215 --> 00:16:05,495 Speaker 1: Trained Dreams, also Unable to Sect. 301 00:16:05,535 --> 00:16:07,135 Speaker 2: You were all win this time round. 302 00:16:07,615 --> 00:16:10,495 Speaker 1: But it was Rosebyrne who marked her win for Best 303 00:16:10,535 --> 00:16:13,335 Speaker 1: Actress in a Musical or Comedy for her portrayal of 304 00:16:13,455 --> 00:16:14,935 Speaker 1: Linda in If I Had. 305 00:16:14,895 --> 00:16:15,775 Speaker 2: Legs, I'd Kick you. 306 00:16:16,295 --> 00:16:19,775 Speaker 1: With a delightfully family centric speech. 307 00:16:20,815 --> 00:16:25,375 Speaker 4: My brother's my date, Thanks George, Thanks to my mom 308 00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:27,415 Speaker 4: and dad who bought Paramount Plus so they could watch 309 00:16:27,415 --> 00:16:29,055 Speaker 4: the Golden Globes for Sydney. 310 00:16:30,055 --> 00:16:32,495 Speaker 2: And I want to thank my husband, Bobby. 311 00:16:32,455 --> 00:16:36,695 Speaker 5: Come Bali Hoover, who couldn't be here because he's we're 312 00:16:36,695 --> 00:16:38,255 Speaker 5: getting a bit of dragon and he went to a 313 00:16:38,255 --> 00:16:39,775 Speaker 5: reptile expoe in New Jersey. 314 00:16:39,935 --> 00:16:42,855 Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you. 315 00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:46,095 Speaker 1: Baby Entertainment reported Tara Watson was glued to the telly 316 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:49,295 Speaker 1: all day yesterday covering the awards. Tara, what's an award 317 00:16:49,335 --> 00:16:52,135 Speaker 1: season without a fabulous red carpet? Very quickly, give me 318 00:16:52,175 --> 00:16:53,095 Speaker 1: your top three looks. 319 00:16:53,695 --> 00:16:57,215 Speaker 5: Okay, by far, Jennifer Lawrence is number one. She wore 320 00:16:57,255 --> 00:17:00,735 Speaker 5: this beautiful floral look. As soon as she popped up 321 00:17:00,735 --> 00:17:02,455 Speaker 5: on my timeline, I was like that's the look of 322 00:17:02,495 --> 00:17:06,775 Speaker 5: the night, like absolutely flawless. Close would be Emma Stone, 323 00:17:06,935 --> 00:17:11,094 Speaker 5: she wore this two piece butter yellow ensemble, absolutely gorgeous. 324 00:17:11,494 --> 00:17:14,694 Speaker 5: Then I also love Teyana Taylor's like black number. It 325 00:17:14,774 --> 00:17:16,534 Speaker 5: was like this thing around the neck is she just 326 00:17:16,574 --> 00:17:19,254 Speaker 5: looked beautiful. And then I will give a little shout 327 00:17:19,254 --> 00:17:21,334 Speaker 5: out to Zoe Kravitz as well, because she's just the 328 00:17:21,455 --> 00:17:24,655 Speaker 5: ultimate cool girl. She kind of wore this like neglige 329 00:17:24,655 --> 00:17:27,655 Speaker 5: looking dress that only Zoe Kravitz could kind of pull off. 330 00:17:27,695 --> 00:17:28,534 Speaker 5: But flawless. 331 00:17:28,655 --> 00:17:32,014 Speaker 1: My top three very quickly, all running within the same 332 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:35,574 Speaker 1: world and the same theme. The rock Coleman Domingo and 333 00:17:35,614 --> 00:17:39,814 Speaker 1: Patrick Schwarzenegger from The White Lotus. All men wearing black suits, 334 00:17:39,895 --> 00:17:44,295 Speaker 1: which you know is whatever. They all came brooch first 335 00:17:44,375 --> 00:17:47,014 Speaker 1: into the room. They were boys and brooches. Tari was 336 00:17:47,054 --> 00:17:47,534 Speaker 1: so hot. 337 00:17:47,614 --> 00:17:50,414 Speaker 5: We love a brooch this year. And little glasses. I 338 00:17:50,494 --> 00:17:53,615 Speaker 5: feel like every man was either wearing a brooch, little 339 00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:55,695 Speaker 5: glasses or some did both. Why not both? 340 00:17:56,415 --> 00:17:59,254 Speaker 1: I hold Jonathan Bailey responsible for the little glasses. Yes, 341 00:17:59,534 --> 00:18:02,655 Speaker 1: moving on inside the awards ceremony, lots of winds, couple 342 00:18:02,695 --> 00:18:04,734 Speaker 1: of upsets, will get to those in a moment. I 343 00:18:04,774 --> 00:18:07,655 Speaker 1: know you're a huge Timothy Chala May fan. You must 344 00:18:07,655 --> 00:18:08,575 Speaker 1: be happy with his win. 345 00:18:08,774 --> 00:18:12,494 Speaker 5: I am, yes, Timmy. Obviously, Timmy really is passionate about 346 00:18:12,494 --> 00:18:14,614 Speaker 5: this role Mighty Supreme. He knows that this is like 347 00:18:14,655 --> 00:18:16,814 Speaker 5: one of his best roles to date, and I think 348 00:18:17,094 --> 00:18:19,574 Speaker 5: I think he deserved it. He was in a category 349 00:18:19,574 --> 00:18:22,014 Speaker 5: with some big hitters. You've got Leona Dicapriro, You've got 350 00:18:22,094 --> 00:18:25,695 Speaker 5: Jesse Plemons. But I do think this really was Timmy's moment, 351 00:18:25,734 --> 00:18:27,494 Speaker 5: and I really hope this is giving him a bit 352 00:18:27,494 --> 00:18:29,374 Speaker 5: of momentum into the Oscars. 353 00:18:29,614 --> 00:18:32,814 Speaker 1: Okay, and then what about other big wins of the evening? 354 00:18:32,854 --> 00:18:35,774 Speaker 1: I know one battle after another was notmed like nine times. 355 00:18:35,774 --> 00:18:38,135 Speaker 1: I think they ended up going home with four wins. 356 00:18:38,334 --> 00:18:42,054 Speaker 5: Yeah, one battle after another they dominated. So did this 357 00:18:42,054 --> 00:18:44,614 Speaker 5: little foreign film, The Secret Agent, which was quite fun. 358 00:18:44,695 --> 00:18:47,455 Speaker 5: And then Hamnett did like kind of dominate in a 359 00:18:47,494 --> 00:18:48,894 Speaker 5: lot of the drama categories. 360 00:18:49,135 --> 00:18:51,535 Speaker 1: It feels so bizarre to be talking about films that 361 00:18:51,734 --> 00:18:54,014 Speaker 1: are actually yet to be released in Australia, but I 362 00:18:54,014 --> 00:18:56,095 Speaker 1: guess this is like great publicity for them. 363 00:18:56,215 --> 00:18:58,534 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's wild, even like Marty Supreme, I haven't seen 364 00:18:58,534 --> 00:19:01,054 Speaker 5: that yet. It's not out yet, but we're talking about 365 00:19:01,094 --> 00:19:01,854 Speaker 5: it okay. 366 00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:05,375 Speaker 1: In terms of upsets, though a few Aussies in the mix. 367 00:19:05,614 --> 00:19:08,254 Speaker 1: The Golden Globes this year Rosebyrne, of course, winning for 368 00:19:08,415 --> 00:19:10,654 Speaker 1: If I Had Legs, I Would Kick You, which is 369 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:12,415 Speaker 1: just the most bizarre title for a film. 370 00:19:12,455 --> 00:19:13,814 Speaker 2: In a minute, it's a tongue twister. 371 00:19:14,135 --> 00:19:17,814 Speaker 1: But a few other Aussies were nominated, unfortunately not able 372 00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:21,135 Speaker 1: to nab some wins, including Jacob Alordie. 373 00:19:21,014 --> 00:19:24,095 Speaker 5: Sweet Baby Jacob. He had double the chance as well. 374 00:19:24,094 --> 00:19:26,534 Speaker 5: He was nominated in two categories and he didn't win. 375 00:19:26,695 --> 00:19:29,054 Speaker 5: I didn't think he was. Oh, I don't know. My 376 00:19:29,175 --> 00:19:31,695 Speaker 5: heart said that he might win for Frankenstein because he's 377 00:19:31,734 --> 00:19:33,895 Speaker 5: so good in that, But if I was trusting my head, 378 00:19:33,935 --> 00:19:35,055 Speaker 5: I didn't think he was gonna win. 379 00:19:35,135 --> 00:19:37,415 Speaker 1: And I mean, Sarah Snook took out a critic's choice 380 00:19:37,534 --> 00:19:39,614 Speaker 1: last week, so she can't be too upset. 381 00:19:39,655 --> 00:19:42,374 Speaker 5: I guess no, And to be honest, I love Sarah Snook. 382 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:45,695 Speaker 5: Obviously I die for Sarah Snook. Michelle Williams, she deserved 383 00:19:45,695 --> 00:19:47,854 Speaker 5: that win even though she didn't show up. Maybe she 384 00:19:47,935 --> 00:19:48,575 Speaker 5: was busy, and. 385 00:19:48,494 --> 00:19:49,734 Speaker 1: She might have been busy. She might have been with 386 00:19:49,774 --> 00:19:55,215 Speaker 1: Rosebyrne's husband, buying an axelent, said yeah, okay, last before 387 00:19:55,215 --> 00:19:57,135 Speaker 1: we let you go, Tara, what's an award season without 388 00:19:57,135 --> 00:19:59,095 Speaker 1: a bit of drama? Did we see any drama this year? 389 00:19:59,734 --> 00:20:02,095 Speaker 5: I feel like the drama of the night was how 390 00:20:02,175 --> 00:20:06,774 Speaker 5: much Sinners was just overlooked. Oh, I mean, people love Sinners. 391 00:20:06,814 --> 00:20:10,854 Speaker 5: It's this amazing story, this original story. And it didn't 392 00:20:10,895 --> 00:20:14,895 Speaker 5: win much. It did win for Cinematic and Box Office Achievement, 393 00:20:14,935 --> 00:20:16,894 Speaker 5: which is kind of the award you get for a 394 00:20:16,935 --> 00:20:19,014 Speaker 5: really big movie that they want to give something to, 395 00:20:19,175 --> 00:20:22,135 Speaker 5: which is what happened with Barbie. You know, Barbie wasn't 396 00:20:22,375 --> 00:20:24,415 Speaker 5: didn't win a lot of awards, but it did win that. 397 00:20:25,054 --> 00:20:28,494 Speaker 5: Oddly enough, Sinners did win for Original Score, but they 398 00:20:28,534 --> 00:20:31,134 Speaker 5: didn't play the awards during the night. They did it 399 00:20:31,175 --> 00:20:32,414 Speaker 5: in the commercial break. 400 00:20:32,695 --> 00:20:34,294 Speaker 2: Oh so we didn't get to hear it. 401 00:20:34,415 --> 00:20:37,175 Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you've seen Sinners, the score is incredible. 402 00:20:37,215 --> 00:20:40,174 Speaker 5: So it was pretty disappointing that that wasn't included, Tara. 403 00:20:40,415 --> 00:20:42,054 Speaker 2: The globes done and dusted. 404 00:20:42,094 --> 00:20:44,254 Speaker 1: Now, one of the next big things over people to 405 00:20:44,254 --> 00:20:47,095 Speaker 1: look out for is the Oscar nominations are coming out 406 00:20:47,135 --> 00:20:49,774 Speaker 1: towards the end of next week, Are we going to 407 00:20:49,774 --> 00:20:51,254 Speaker 1: see Marty Supreme dominate? 408 00:20:52,175 --> 00:20:54,975 Speaker 5: Potentially? I feel like the awkward thing with Marty Supreme 409 00:20:55,054 --> 00:20:58,375 Speaker 5: is it's the role that's getting the attention, not the movie. 410 00:20:59,334 --> 00:21:01,095 Speaker 5: And a lot of the times with the Oscars, it's 411 00:21:01,135 --> 00:21:04,134 Speaker 5: they do tend to award roles that are also for 412 00:21:04,215 --> 00:21:06,534 Speaker 5: prestigious movies, so there might be a bit of a 413 00:21:06,574 --> 00:21:08,455 Speaker 5: back and forth with that, but we'll have to see it. 414 00:21:08,494 --> 00:21:10,254 Speaker 5: If it's I just want to see Timy there and 415 00:21:10,254 --> 00:21:13,054 Speaker 5: I'll see Kylie by his side. That's all I care about. 416 00:21:14,534 --> 00:21:16,734 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 417 00:21:16,814 --> 00:21:19,854 Speaker 1: us today. We'll be back with more news updates for you. 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