1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,425 --> 00:00:22,985 Speaker 1: is recorded on. Makeup is My Therapy. I'm the love, 4 00:00:23,265 --> 00:00:29,585 Speaker 1: I'm obsess and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello, 5 00:00:29,825 --> 00:00:32,465 Speaker 1: and welcome to you beauty. I am Lee Campbell. I'm 6 00:00:32,505 --> 00:00:35,425 Speaker 1: Kelly McCarron. And before we get into today's show, let's 7 00:00:35,425 --> 00:00:38,105 Speaker 1: see what's happening in the world of beauty. You look 8 00:00:38,145 --> 00:00:39,665 Speaker 1: like a real news reader saying I do. 9 00:00:40,425 --> 00:00:43,185 Speaker 2: This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything 10 00:00:43,225 --> 00:00:45,705 Speaker 2: you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark mom 11 00:00:45,785 --> 00:00:49,025 Speaker 2: and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover. 12 00:00:49,385 --> 00:00:51,585 Speaker 3: And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor 13 00:00:51,625 --> 00:00:55,265 Speaker 3: and I forgot mascara today. Anyway, here's what's trending. 14 00:00:55,545 --> 00:00:56,425 Speaker 1: Forget your face. 15 00:00:56,585 --> 00:01:00,985 Speaker 2: You can now try micro needling hair products. So something 16 00:01:00,985 --> 00:01:03,385 Speaker 2: that was not on my beauty bingo card for twenty 17 00:01:03,465 --> 00:01:07,545 Speaker 2: twenty five but definitely should have been micro needling shampoo 18 00:01:08,065 --> 00:01:10,305 Speaker 2: from the same Korean skincare brand that brought us that 19 00:01:10,505 --> 00:01:13,865 Speaker 2: viral micro needling in a bottle reedle serum comes a 20 00:01:14,025 --> 00:01:17,905 Speaker 2: scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and healthier hair. 21 00:01:18,465 --> 00:01:22,785 Speaker 2: Juna Zoo reviewed the new VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp 22 00:01:22,825 --> 00:01:26,265 Speaker 2: shampoo on mammamea dot com deau and wrote that her 23 00:01:26,305 --> 00:01:29,225 Speaker 2: scalp has never felt so fresh. What did you think 24 00:01:29,265 --> 00:01:31,425 Speaker 2: when we first published this storycast. 25 00:01:31,105 --> 00:01:33,825 Speaker 3: Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains 26 00:01:33,825 --> 00:01:36,625 Speaker 3: a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being 27 00:01:36,665 --> 00:01:40,305 Speaker 3: something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in 28 00:01:40,305 --> 00:01:42,785 Speaker 3: this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it 29 00:01:42,825 --> 00:01:46,705 Speaker 3: also has the brand's Reedle Shot microspicules, which for the 30 00:01:46,785 --> 00:01:51,065 Speaker 3: uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures 31 00:01:51,265 --> 00:01:54,105 Speaker 3: about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face. 32 00:01:54,185 --> 00:01:56,385 Speaker 3: Juna says these don't hurt, but they do help to 33 00:01:56,465 --> 00:01:59,785 Speaker 3: remove dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your 34 00:01:59,825 --> 00:02:02,105 Speaker 3: scalp skin for better ingredient absorption. 35 00:02:02,665 --> 00:02:06,665 Speaker 2: It is just another example of that skinnification of all 36 00:02:06,705 --> 00:02:09,465 Speaker 2: of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their 37 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:12,865 Speaker 2: hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred 38 00:02:12,865 --> 00:02:15,905 Speaker 2: percent try this. I have seen people who derma roll 39 00:02:15,945 --> 00:02:18,505 Speaker 2: their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort. 40 00:02:18,905 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 2: Plus it feels much more low risk than the reedal 41 00:02:22,425 --> 00:02:24,985 Speaker 2: face serum because it's in a wash off format for 42 00:02:25,065 --> 00:02:25,465 Speaker 2: my head. 43 00:02:26,185 --> 00:02:29,385 Speaker 3: Louis Vaton has just launched its first ever makeup line, 44 00:02:29,625 --> 00:02:33,745 Speaker 3: Love You Tay woo Ooo so, with legendary British makeup 45 00:02:33,825 --> 00:02:37,505 Speaker 3: artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line 46 00:02:37,665 --> 00:02:41,145 Speaker 3: features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette 47 00:02:41,145 --> 00:02:44,225 Speaker 3: and lipsticks in Balm, Satin and Matt finishes. So this 48 00:02:44,305 --> 00:02:48,105 Speaker 3: collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products. 49 00:02:48,185 --> 00:02:49,985 Speaker 1: The main catch is the price. 50 00:02:50,185 --> 00:02:52,945 Speaker 2: I am like low key obsessed with the fact that, 51 00:02:52,985 --> 00:02:56,585 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only 52 00:02:56,665 --> 00:03:00,425 Speaker 2: are Louis Vaton's beauty products too luxury for the everyday person, 53 00:03:00,785 --> 00:03:04,505 Speaker 2: but they're also too luxury for the luxury beauty category. 54 00:03:05,065 --> 00:03:08,425 Speaker 2: As Business of Beauty put it, four hundred and twenty 55 00:03:08,505 --> 00:03:11,585 Speaker 2: dollars for an eye shadow quad or a seven hundred 56 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:16,265 Speaker 2: and sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is 57 00:03:16,505 --> 00:03:21,305 Speaker 2: quote in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context, 58 00:03:21,425 --> 00:03:24,545 Speaker 2: let's compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, so do 59 00:03:24,625 --> 00:03:27,065 Speaker 2: your lipsticks. They start at the lower end of the 60 00:03:27,105 --> 00:03:30,785 Speaker 2: scale at sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom 61 00:03:30,865 --> 00:03:34,145 Speaker 2: Ford from eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are 62 00:03:34,145 --> 00:03:38,145 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line 63 00:03:38,225 --> 00:03:42,145 Speaker 2: costs seventy dollars, while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at 64 00:03:42,385 --> 00:03:44,505 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five dollars. 65 00:03:44,785 --> 00:03:47,625 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is 66 00:03:47,665 --> 00:03:50,705 Speaker 3: absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to 67 00:03:50,705 --> 00:03:53,745 Speaker 3: be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation, 68 00:03:53,945 --> 00:03:56,385 Speaker 3: but a piece of fashion and beauty history. They are 69 00:03:56,465 --> 00:03:58,945 Speaker 3: essentially collectus items and we're all going to want one 70 00:03:59,025 --> 00:04:01,425 Speaker 3: in our bag. But can we afford it? Who knows? 71 00:04:01,705 --> 00:04:02,385 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 72 00:04:03,385 --> 00:04:06,065 Speaker 3: It's an interesting choice to take this route when traditionally 73 00:04:06,225 --> 00:04:08,425 Speaker 3: luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of 74 00:04:08,585 --> 00:04:11,625 Speaker 3: entry point into fact houses. So you can also buy 75 00:04:11,625 --> 00:04:13,945 Speaker 3: these direct from Louvaton, but we're yet to see where 76 00:04:13,985 --> 00:04:16,625 Speaker 3: Elsie's might be ranged in Australia. 77 00:04:16,745 --> 00:04:20,985 Speaker 2: Can AI replace your dermatologist? Larel is kind of asking 78 00:04:21,065 --> 00:04:23,665 Speaker 2: us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own 79 00:04:23,905 --> 00:04:28,185 Speaker 2: beauty genius AI skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual 80 00:04:28,225 --> 00:04:30,345 Speaker 2: try on, which has been around for a while, where 81 00:04:30,345 --> 00:04:33,025 Speaker 2: you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade 82 00:04:33,065 --> 00:04:36,505 Speaker 2: or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now 83 00:04:36,545 --> 00:04:40,305 Speaker 2: you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone, 84 00:04:40,465 --> 00:04:42,705 Speaker 2: kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a 85 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:46,585 Speaker 2: dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media, 86 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:49,145 Speaker 2: we are all very sensitive about how AI could be 87 00:04:49,145 --> 00:04:52,105 Speaker 2: coming for our jobs. Cas, do you think dermatologists should 88 00:04:52,105 --> 00:04:52,505 Speaker 2: be worried? 89 00:04:52,665 --> 00:04:54,465 Speaker 3: Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a 90 00:04:54,465 --> 00:04:57,465 Speaker 3: place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind 91 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:00,025 Speaker 3: of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun 92 00:05:00,105 --> 00:05:02,825 Speaker 3: new tool. I think most of us are feeling super 93 00:05:02,865 --> 00:05:06,265 Speaker 3: overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of 94 00:05:06,305 --> 00:05:09,785 Speaker 3: us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients 95 00:05:09,785 --> 00:05:12,545 Speaker 3: in our various products. So I think a way to 96 00:05:12,625 --> 00:05:14,865 Speaker 3: kind of decode that at home makes a lot of 97 00:05:14,905 --> 00:05:17,185 Speaker 3: sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search 98 00:05:17,265 --> 00:05:19,345 Speaker 3: or your own kind of research that you might do. 99 00:05:19,985 --> 00:05:22,465 Speaker 3: And like, this particular app has over one hundred and 100 00:05:22,465 --> 00:05:26,865 Speaker 3: fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to 101 00:05:26,905 --> 00:05:29,585 Speaker 3: ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably 102 00:05:29,665 --> 00:05:32,145 Speaker 3: better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be 103 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:34,785 Speaker 3: better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason. 104 00:05:34,945 --> 00:05:37,585 Speaker 3: They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah, 105 00:05:37,625 --> 00:05:39,665 Speaker 3: it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice 106 00:05:39,705 --> 00:05:43,425 Speaker 3: little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date, 107 00:05:43,505 --> 00:05:45,505 Speaker 3: let's get into all your beauty. Q and a's with 108 00:05:45,585 --> 00:05:46,225 Speaker 3: Lee and Kelly. 109 00:05:47,585 --> 00:05:50,185 Speaker 1: I couldn't help. Wonder you ask me anything? You ask 110 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:53,385 Speaker 1: many questions, potty question. 111 00:05:53,705 --> 00:05:57,145 Speaker 4: It's coming through from our instadiums. Would love to hear 112 00:05:57,825 --> 00:06:00,145 Speaker 4: how the collective? How are you touching up your makeup 113 00:06:00,305 --> 00:06:02,705 Speaker 4: during the day? Is powder still a thing? How do 114 00:06:02,785 --> 00:06:05,305 Speaker 4: I know which powder to use? Do I choose the 115 00:06:05,305 --> 00:06:07,785 Speaker 4: same brand and color as my foundation or is there 116 00:06:07,825 --> 00:06:10,545 Speaker 4: some universal touch up powder that everyone is using? 117 00:06:10,985 --> 00:06:11,265 Speaker 1: Help? 118 00:06:11,305 --> 00:06:13,385 Speaker 4: I have dry skin, but I get a shine going 119 00:06:13,425 --> 00:06:15,385 Speaker 4: through the day as my makeup wears off. 120 00:06:16,425 --> 00:06:18,705 Speaker 1: Well that's good because we can both probably help because 121 00:06:18,705 --> 00:06:22,545 Speaker 1: I'm a powdered girl expert and you're dry. But do 122 00:06:22,585 --> 00:06:25,025 Speaker 1: you ever touch up with a powder? I don't touch up, 123 00:06:25,065 --> 00:06:28,265 Speaker 1: but I do, oh, I do? I do? I do? Okay, 124 00:06:28,385 --> 00:06:30,985 Speaker 1: as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going. 125 00:06:31,105 --> 00:06:33,865 Speaker 1: I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can 126 00:06:33,905 --> 00:06:36,185 Speaker 1: you imagine, Oh my god, I drop. I actually think 127 00:06:36,225 --> 00:06:39,465 Speaker 1: that my makeup would still slap. It does not move, 128 00:06:39,545 --> 00:06:41,225 Speaker 1: I can imagine. And you know how some products are 129 00:06:41,225 --> 00:06:44,385 Speaker 1: like seventy two hour ware, I'm like, why if you're bendering, 130 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:47,865 Speaker 1: that's why. No, that is not appropriate. You should still 131 00:06:47,905 --> 00:06:51,505 Speaker 1: wash your face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend powder 132 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:54,465 Speaker 1: is such a thing, and I think maybe you're thinking 133 00:06:54,505 --> 00:06:56,945 Speaker 1: back because you say, do I choose the same brand 134 00:06:56,945 --> 00:07:00,145 Speaker 1: and color as my foundation? That's a bit a bygone 135 00:07:00,185 --> 00:07:02,145 Speaker 1: era where you kind of used to see women open 136 00:07:02,185 --> 00:07:05,425 Speaker 1: a compact and it was you know, skin tone color, 137 00:07:06,185 --> 00:07:09,185 Speaker 1: and oftentimes if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation, 138 00:07:09,905 --> 00:07:11,705 Speaker 1: not really kind of a touch up. You want something 139 00:07:11,745 --> 00:07:15,705 Speaker 1: translucent and truly translucent. I am the boss of that 140 00:07:15,865 --> 00:07:18,585 Speaker 1: because I need to touch up throughout the day. I 141 00:07:18,625 --> 00:07:21,025 Speaker 1: have been out with Kelly and I think even Mia 142 00:07:21,065 --> 00:07:23,905 Speaker 1: and I've just sat there with blotting papers on my face. 143 00:07:24,265 --> 00:07:25,945 Speaker 1: So as it warms up, I definitely need to do 144 00:07:25,985 --> 00:07:28,465 Speaker 1: this too. I'm combo, so the sides of my face 145 00:07:28,505 --> 00:07:32,305 Speaker 1: are actually getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced, 146 00:07:32,865 --> 00:07:37,745 Speaker 1: but the center remains combination. Oily. Can I make some recommendation, 147 00:07:37,905 --> 00:07:42,345 Speaker 1: please do? Okay? The fenty Beauty in Visi Matt instant 148 00:07:42,385 --> 00:07:45,305 Speaker 1: setting and blotting powder is fantastic. You can get a 149 00:07:45,345 --> 00:07:48,865 Speaker 1: little size for twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder. 150 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:51,385 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time, Well maybe people do, but I 151 00:07:51,385 --> 00:07:53,265 Speaker 1: don't do a loose powder when I'm mountain about because 152 00:07:53,265 --> 00:07:55,745 Speaker 1: it's just way too messy. So that's really good. Another 153 00:07:55,785 --> 00:07:58,625 Speaker 1: one that I really really love is the inners Free 154 00:07:58,785 --> 00:08:02,425 Speaker 1: no Sebam mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're 155 00:08:02,425 --> 00:08:07,945 Speaker 1: looking online, the new version is new Little travel guy. 156 00:08:08,025 --> 00:08:11,825 Speaker 1: But you only ever need in these situations, firstly because 157 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:14,785 Speaker 1: you said you're touching up, but secondly you're never gonna 158 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:17,545 Speaker 1: go through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it, 159 00:08:18,065 --> 00:08:19,665 Speaker 1: and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those. 160 00:08:19,665 --> 00:08:21,585 Speaker 1: You want a little brush if you're gonna do a 161 00:08:21,665 --> 00:08:23,505 Speaker 1: pressed powder thing ease. Some of them come with that 162 00:08:23,545 --> 00:08:27,985 Speaker 1: little puffy thing, but menoliky I don't know because it's 163 00:08:28,265 --> 00:08:30,505 Speaker 1: you can't really I just don't like it. I mean 164 00:08:30,545 --> 00:08:33,865 Speaker 1: you might. So two brush recommendations to go with your 165 00:08:33,865 --> 00:08:36,465 Speaker 1: powder that you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max 166 00:08:36,505 --> 00:08:38,465 Speaker 1: retractable travel brush. It's just one of those bop but 167 00:08:38,505 --> 00:08:40,265 Speaker 1: it's got a lid because you don't want brush in 168 00:08:40,305 --> 00:08:43,065 Speaker 1: your makeup bag that's then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks 169 00:08:43,625 --> 00:08:47,985 Speaker 1: or on Amazon three pack retractable brush. So it's like 170 00:08:48,025 --> 00:08:50,545 Speaker 1: three little face brushes. So you might use one like 171 00:08:50,585 --> 00:08:53,905 Speaker 1: you're a cream girl. You could use one for cream products. 172 00:08:53,905 --> 00:08:56,025 Speaker 1: You could use one for you know, bronzes or whatever, 173 00:08:56,065 --> 00:08:59,505 Speaker 1: and one for setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you 174 00:08:59,545 --> 00:09:03,785 Speaker 1: want to. Some people want to touch up their cream contour. Well, 175 00:09:03,985 --> 00:09:06,145 Speaker 1: I just think do it right the first time. You 176 00:09:06,185 --> 00:09:08,385 Speaker 1: won't have to anyway, Just get three brushes and then 177 00:09:08,425 --> 00:09:10,585 Speaker 1: you've got one in rotation when you washing it. Another 178 00:09:10,785 --> 00:09:12,585 Speaker 1: thing I want to tell you about is blotting paper. 179 00:09:13,145 --> 00:09:15,425 Speaker 1: I feel like you, my dry friend who just gets 180 00:09:15,425 --> 00:09:18,585 Speaker 1: a bit shiny plotting paper is perfect. It's literally a 181 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:21,345 Speaker 1: little rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and 182 00:09:21,385 --> 00:09:24,265 Speaker 1: it's got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you 183 00:09:24,385 --> 00:09:27,705 Speaker 1: just blot like that comes in a really thin little packet. 184 00:09:27,745 --> 00:09:32,225 Speaker 1: They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Munpack is 185 00:09:32,305 --> 00:09:36,425 Speaker 1: six dollars. My favorites are from Muji. Themoji face blotting 186 00:09:36,425 --> 00:09:41,985 Speaker 1: cosmetic paper two dollars fifty oh one more thing. There's 187 00:09:41,985 --> 00:09:43,665 Speaker 1: lots of them, but I like the Revlon one, The 188 00:09:43,785 --> 00:09:48,265 Speaker 1: Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's this 189 00:09:48,305 --> 00:09:50,065 Speaker 1: little It kind of looks like a makeup brush, I guess, 190 00:09:50,065 --> 00:09:53,065 Speaker 1: but then the head's like a little it looks like 191 00:09:53,065 --> 00:09:55,705 Speaker 1: a marble, like a stone marble, and it's made out 192 00:09:55,745 --> 00:09:58,145 Speaker 1: of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil. 193 00:09:58,185 --> 00:09:59,785 Speaker 1: So you just roll it over your oily bits. 194 00:10:00,385 --> 00:10:03,105 Speaker 4: Because that's what I'm thinking, Given that she said that 195 00:10:03,185 --> 00:10:07,345 Speaker 4: she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is 196 00:10:07,425 --> 00:10:11,985 Speaker 4: wearing off during the day if you're priming and then 197 00:10:12,385 --> 00:10:13,425 Speaker 4: layering properly. 198 00:10:13,665 --> 00:10:16,745 Speaker 1: So do you think she could fix this problem at application? 199 00:10:17,105 --> 00:10:20,505 Speaker 1: It depends because some people are face touches. Me. 200 00:10:21,145 --> 00:10:23,305 Speaker 4: So if you touch your face all day like you 201 00:10:23,385 --> 00:10:25,265 Speaker 4: rest your hands. You said that I want to touch 202 00:10:25,305 --> 00:10:27,705 Speaker 4: my yes, then of course your makeup's going to start 203 00:10:27,745 --> 00:10:30,385 Speaker 4: separating and coming off a little bit in those areas. 204 00:10:30,585 --> 00:10:33,145 Speaker 1: But she's saying she's just getting shiny. Yeah, that's what 205 00:10:33,225 --> 00:10:35,545 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think just a blotting paper. Oh, 206 00:10:35,665 --> 00:10:37,865 Speaker 1: she does say, as my makeup wears off, But yes, 207 00:10:38,265 --> 00:10:41,545 Speaker 1: if you're layering your products. The difference between I think 208 00:10:41,545 --> 00:10:43,545 Speaker 1: that I could do my makeup and it would look 209 00:10:43,585 --> 00:10:47,265 Speaker 1: the same between ten minutes and twenty minutes. The difference is. 210 00:10:47,785 --> 00:10:49,625 Speaker 4: Like I got time to do it, yes, like I 211 00:10:49,625 --> 00:10:53,145 Speaker 4: could do the same look to the naked eye in 212 00:10:53,225 --> 00:10:55,625 Speaker 4: ten minutes or twenty minutes. But when I spend the 213 00:10:55,745 --> 00:10:59,985 Speaker 4: time and layer my products properly and spend time. 214 00:11:00,385 --> 00:11:02,665 Speaker 1: My makeup will not move. 215 00:11:02,785 --> 00:11:06,025 Speaker 4: Like I will go play netball after a full day 216 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:08,465 Speaker 4: of recording and my makeup is still pretty good. The 217 00:11:08,505 --> 00:11:10,905 Speaker 4: only place that it tends to move at the moment 218 00:11:10,985 --> 00:11:13,865 Speaker 4: is my upper lip because of hey fever season, So 219 00:11:13,905 --> 00:11:16,225 Speaker 4: I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it. And I 220 00:11:16,225 --> 00:11:18,465 Speaker 4: eat and drink so my lips around there. But the 221 00:11:18,465 --> 00:11:20,665 Speaker 4: rest of my face it doesn't move. 222 00:11:21,225 --> 00:11:24,505 Speaker 1: And if I was going to touch what are these steps lady, 223 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:26,745 Speaker 1: Well for everyone it would be different, but for me, 224 00:11:26,785 --> 00:11:29,705 Speaker 1: it's like just taking the time doing my skin care 225 00:11:29,745 --> 00:11:32,305 Speaker 1: and then waiting a little bit. Waiting is a lot 226 00:11:32,305 --> 00:11:35,665 Speaker 1: of it because I think you go, you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation, 227 00:11:36,185 --> 00:11:39,745 Speaker 1: and it's like everything's fine, but it starts peeling off 228 00:11:39,785 --> 00:11:42,185 Speaker 1: and wearing off a lot quicker because you haven't allowed 229 00:11:42,225 --> 00:11:43,985 Speaker 1: it to think of it. When you're trying to paint 230 00:11:44,025 --> 00:11:46,185 Speaker 1: your own nails, you've got a let it dry between steps, 231 00:11:46,625 --> 00:11:50,065 Speaker 1: goes glug city exactly as soon as you touch anything. 232 00:11:50,505 --> 00:11:53,465 Speaker 1: So and then I will always prime, and then I 233 00:11:53,705 --> 00:11:56,145 Speaker 1: start with my cream to not prime as a crimeme. 234 00:11:56,545 --> 00:11:59,025 Speaker 1: And then I'll always start with all of my cream 235 00:11:59,065 --> 00:12:01,945 Speaker 1: products and not use heaps of them, but lay out 236 00:12:02,025 --> 00:12:06,625 Speaker 1: after your foundation. After I've primed and then prime, then foundation. 237 00:12:07,225 --> 00:12:10,265 Speaker 1: Then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush, 238 00:12:10,465 --> 00:12:15,265 Speaker 1: then I will set everything with the equivalent powder product. 239 00:12:15,345 --> 00:12:17,945 Speaker 1: So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will 240 00:12:17,945 --> 00:12:21,585 Speaker 1: bronze whoa like it takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes, 241 00:12:22,025 --> 00:12:25,265 Speaker 1: but it lasts all day. And then if I am like, 242 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,345 Speaker 1: when do you do your setting spray last like you 243 00:12:27,425 --> 00:12:28,825 Speaker 1: Charlotte to every setting spray, I. 244 00:12:28,785 --> 00:12:31,105 Speaker 4: Don't usually do it at the end of doing my 245 00:12:31,145 --> 00:12:33,185 Speaker 4: makeup I'll just do it throughout the day to sort 246 00:12:33,225 --> 00:12:35,025 Speaker 4: of refresh my skin and make it look a little 247 00:12:35,025 --> 00:12:39,345 Speaker 4: bit glowier. And if I have got movement around my mouth, 248 00:12:39,505 --> 00:12:41,745 Speaker 4: I just sort of like press a. 249 00:12:41,745 --> 00:12:44,425 Speaker 1: Dirty concealer brush into the area. Without I do that, 250 00:12:44,825 --> 00:12:46,345 Speaker 1: I'm done to it. Or I just because you have 251 00:12:46,425 --> 00:12:48,425 Speaker 1: fingers and warm I kind of just smooge yeah when 252 00:12:48,425 --> 00:12:50,905 Speaker 1: it comes back. And I also think that you need 253 00:12:50,945 --> 00:12:52,705 Speaker 1: to remember that no one's looking at your facely as 254 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:55,305 Speaker 1: closely as you are. So though you think that your 255 00:12:55,345 --> 00:12:58,185 Speaker 1: makeup separating and wearing off in different no one's noticing. 256 00:12:58,505 --> 00:13:01,345 Speaker 1: But also we do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, 257 00:13:01,545 --> 00:13:03,705 Speaker 1: but no one else is going to look at you 258 00:13:04,105 --> 00:13:06,345 Speaker 1: in as much detail. And why are we looking it up? 259 00:13:06,385 --> 00:13:08,945 Speaker 4: Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely, 260 00:13:08,985 --> 00:13:09,505 Speaker 4: I'd find a. 261 00:13:09,425 --> 00:13:12,705 Speaker 1: Lot with it. Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah, 262 00:13:12,785 --> 00:13:15,345 Speaker 1: that's try one of those powders, get a travel size, 263 00:13:15,385 --> 00:13:19,305 Speaker 1: try something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent, they're called 264 00:13:19,385 --> 00:13:21,585 Speaker 1: universally translucent. They are actually. 265 00:13:21,265 --> 00:13:25,065 Speaker 4: Clear, yes exactly, and anyone can use them, maybe not 266 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:27,345 Speaker 4: the deeper skin tones. I think they've got really nice 267 00:13:27,385 --> 00:13:30,425 Speaker 4: translucent powders. It aren't white because they can do a 268 00:13:30,465 --> 00:13:33,225 Speaker 4: bit of a white cast, do they. Yeah, But for 269 00:13:33,385 --> 00:13:36,305 Speaker 4: a lot of skin tones, you can use the translucent 270 00:13:36,345 --> 00:13:38,665 Speaker 4: white ones. But then they do have specific ones for 271 00:13:38,785 --> 00:13:39,665 Speaker 4: darker skin tones. 272 00:13:39,745 --> 00:13:50,065 Speaker 1: Excellent, Okay. Naomi sent us the question, this is another 273 00:13:50,145 --> 00:13:52,225 Speaker 1: makeup question, because you know what we often find, we 274 00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:54,625 Speaker 1: get a lot of skin questions, you know, year round, 275 00:13:54,705 --> 00:13:58,225 Speaker 1: but then coming into spring what we call the party season. 276 00:13:58,625 --> 00:14:02,665 Speaker 4: I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer. 277 00:14:03,185 --> 00:14:04,785 Speaker 4: Like people are saying that people are going to be 278 00:14:04,785 --> 00:14:06,625 Speaker 4: having fun. That doesn't mean you have to. 279 00:14:06,825 --> 00:14:09,065 Speaker 1: Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway. 280 00:14:09,225 --> 00:14:12,745 Speaker 1: Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a 281 00:14:12,825 --> 00:14:15,545 Speaker 1: makeup challenge. So as a girl in the know, I 282 00:14:15,625 --> 00:14:18,265 Speaker 1: do what girls do. Challenge I think she means like 283 00:14:18,665 --> 00:14:22,345 Speaker 1: problem problem, So if you will an undrum, So, as 284 00:14:22,385 --> 00:14:24,185 Speaker 1: a girl in the know, I do what girls do 285 00:14:24,305 --> 00:14:27,745 Speaker 1: and head to your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding 286 00:14:27,785 --> 00:14:31,385 Speaker 1: my makeup is pilling, but only on one side of 287 00:14:31,385 --> 00:14:34,905 Speaker 1: my face, between my eyeline and my temple. It's the 288 00:14:34,905 --> 00:14:39,865 Speaker 1: combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer, and tinted BB cream 289 00:14:40,465 --> 00:14:44,465 Speaker 1: that sits well everywhere on my face, But those two spots, 290 00:14:44,585 --> 00:14:47,825 Speaker 1: it's Pillar Paloosa. I love her, She's got personality. Is 291 00:14:47,865 --> 00:14:51,185 Speaker 1: it a combination of layers, poor application technique? I use 292 00:14:51,225 --> 00:14:54,305 Speaker 1: my fingers and a foundation brush, not pouncing a sponge. 293 00:14:54,345 --> 00:14:57,345 Speaker 1: She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer. Get you pouncing in? 294 00:14:57,505 --> 00:15:00,225 Speaker 1: Or is it just some sort of weird karmic revenge 295 00:15:00,225 --> 00:15:03,105 Speaker 1: for all the times I've parked badly? Please help I 296 00:15:03,145 --> 00:15:06,665 Speaker 1: know the answer, So do I? Oh? Well you go first? 297 00:15:06,905 --> 00:15:08,945 Speaker 1: Now you go. Well, we might have different answers, but 298 00:15:08,985 --> 00:15:11,865 Speaker 1: I have a experience such conundrum. Oh okay, I just. 299 00:15:11,825 --> 00:15:15,145 Speaker 4: Think that potentially there's a build up of dead skin 300 00:15:15,225 --> 00:15:17,425 Speaker 4: cells and old makeup in that area, and so she 301 00:15:17,465 --> 00:15:18,825 Speaker 4: needs to use a chemical exfolient. 302 00:15:18,905 --> 00:15:22,145 Speaker 1: Ding ding ding. This happens to me here, see because 303 00:15:22,385 --> 00:15:25,145 Speaker 1: also I have the strangest hairline where I have like 304 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:29,105 Speaker 1: three millimeters between my eyebrows and my hair. How many 305 00:15:29,105 --> 00:15:30,945 Speaker 1: do I have? Oh? Way more? Remember when I use 306 00:15:31,025 --> 00:15:34,185 Speaker 1: that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and I 307 00:15:34,185 --> 00:15:37,305 Speaker 1: had to have it threadned. So I often neglect that 308 00:15:37,425 --> 00:15:40,025 Speaker 1: area because I, you know, doing my skincare and whatever 309 00:15:40,185 --> 00:15:44,785 Speaker 1: chemicsolion or my vitamin A. I often don't even I 310 00:15:44,825 --> 00:15:47,545 Speaker 1: offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but not enough. 311 00:15:48,025 --> 00:15:50,265 Speaker 1: And this happened to me when my makeup was great. 312 00:15:50,305 --> 00:15:53,065 Speaker 1: I knew all the layers. I know what layers play well, 313 00:15:53,665 --> 00:15:56,265 Speaker 1: but just these two, like my temple pretty much or 314 00:15:56,305 --> 00:15:59,025 Speaker 1: just above my browbone to my hair was peeling. 315 00:15:59,305 --> 00:16:01,665 Speaker 4: Yeah, because even if you think about if you do 316 00:16:01,745 --> 00:16:03,985 Speaker 4: have a lot of space, yeah, a lot of the 317 00:16:03,985 --> 00:16:05,825 Speaker 4: time we just sort of focus on that center part 318 00:16:05,825 --> 00:16:08,345 Speaker 4: of our face and we don't. I even sometimes have 319 00:16:08,385 --> 00:16:10,905 Speaker 4: to remind myself to do my skin care up onto 320 00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:14,945 Speaker 4: my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, the sunscreen and 321 00:16:15,025 --> 00:16:17,665 Speaker 4: exfoliation because that skin is really neglected. 322 00:16:17,865 --> 00:16:20,345 Speaker 1: Okay exactly, And I'm going to recommend some products, but 323 00:16:20,665 --> 00:16:22,665 Speaker 1: use one of these because I've got some just you 324 00:16:22,665 --> 00:16:25,825 Speaker 1: know Bha you wanted probably an Aha Bha blend, just 325 00:16:25,865 --> 00:16:27,985 Speaker 1: because there's sounds like there's a lot of dead skin 326 00:16:27,985 --> 00:16:30,865 Speaker 1: cells get rid of. But some of the wipes, like 327 00:16:30,905 --> 00:16:33,945 Speaker 1: I think a cloth wipe is really easy. Here, those 328 00:16:33,985 --> 00:16:36,265 Speaker 1: doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes, well 329 00:16:36,305 --> 00:16:39,625 Speaker 1: I've got cheaper ones, well are they? I mean they're 330 00:16:39,625 --> 00:16:42,025 Speaker 1: not as expensive. The First Aid Beauty has like a 331 00:16:42,065 --> 00:16:45,945 Speaker 1: little twenty eight pad travel thing, and also there is 332 00:16:46,185 --> 00:16:48,825 Speaker 1: the prep and Glow by New Face, and they've got 333 00:16:48,825 --> 00:16:51,625 Speaker 1: little individually packed cloths. Can I tell you get one 334 00:16:51,665 --> 00:16:54,865 Speaker 1: of these when you're doing your little eyebrow bit do 335 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:59,025 Speaker 1: this behind your ear and look at it. It's disgusting. 336 00:16:59,065 --> 00:17:02,945 Speaker 1: It's disgusting. And also do your back because we often 337 00:17:02,985 --> 00:17:05,345 Speaker 1: don't scrub out maw. I agree, but just like do 338 00:17:05,825 --> 00:17:07,825 Speaker 1: this and then also do in your ear and all 339 00:17:07,865 --> 00:17:10,825 Speaker 1: around like this behind here is foul. I do mind 340 00:17:10,865 --> 00:17:13,905 Speaker 1: quite a lot because I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi, 341 00:17:14,025 --> 00:17:17,185 Speaker 1: it's probably exfoliation, so use you know, anything that you've 342 00:17:17,185 --> 00:17:19,185 Speaker 1: got at home if you've already got a chemical exfoliant. 343 00:17:19,625 --> 00:17:22,625 Speaker 1: The Paula's Choice BHA is great that now comes in 344 00:17:22,665 --> 00:17:24,905 Speaker 1: a little travel size. I related to travel sizes today. 345 00:17:25,065 --> 00:17:26,865 Speaker 1: It's a great way to try different things as well, 346 00:17:26,985 --> 00:17:29,545 Speaker 1: isn't it? As I said, the New Face little wipes 347 00:17:29,585 --> 00:17:32,385 Speaker 1: are great. So it's the first day they're like little discs, 348 00:17:32,745 --> 00:17:34,745 Speaker 1: but you could also try if you wanted something that's 349 00:17:34,785 --> 00:17:36,985 Speaker 1: a bit more manual. Although this has kind of enzymes 350 00:17:37,025 --> 00:17:41,225 Speaker 1: in it is our favorite dermalogica daily mycrofole oh yes, 351 00:17:41,265 --> 00:17:43,145 Speaker 1: which is like a little clay. You had a little 352 00:17:43,185 --> 00:17:45,385 Speaker 1: bit of water and then you can kind of custom 353 00:17:45,625 --> 00:17:49,105 Speaker 1: buff how much buffing you want, Yeah, how how much 354 00:17:49,185 --> 00:17:52,305 Speaker 1: stuffing you want on your face? I completely agree. 355 00:17:52,345 --> 00:17:54,985 Speaker 4: I actually think that that is the only possible option 356 00:17:55,465 --> 00:17:56,465 Speaker 4: as to what well. 357 00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:59,625 Speaker 1: I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like, 358 00:17:59,625 --> 00:18:01,265 Speaker 1: what's going on? And this was a time where I 359 00:18:01,305 --> 00:18:03,905 Speaker 1: was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen makeup. I knew 360 00:18:03,905 --> 00:18:07,945 Speaker 1: they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up. 361 00:18:08,065 --> 00:18:10,385 Speaker 1: Please everyone go get a swipe or even just a 362 00:18:10,385 --> 00:18:15,145 Speaker 1: cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face. 363 00:18:15,145 --> 00:18:17,865 Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on 364 00:18:17,905 --> 00:18:19,545 Speaker 1: the difference that it may And also when you're in 365 00:18:19,545 --> 00:18:21,105 Speaker 1: the shower, if you cleanse in the shower or not, 366 00:18:21,345 --> 00:18:23,585 Speaker 1: make sure you cleanse your ears as well. It's very important. 367 00:18:23,865 --> 00:18:25,625 Speaker 1: I clean mysee every day just because it feels so good. 368 00:18:25,665 --> 00:18:27,585 Speaker 1: I know it's not supposed to. Oh yes, the ear 369 00:18:27,625 --> 00:18:31,145 Speaker 1: buddy things, but no, I mean like actually not inside 370 00:18:31,185 --> 00:18:34,465 Speaker 1: your ear drum. Does inside your drum feel that's naughty? 371 00:18:34,545 --> 00:18:36,345 Speaker 1: I know. I like doing that with toothfoss. I don't. 372 00:18:36,425 --> 00:18:38,985 Speaker 1: We'll not in my ear anyway. You're supposed to floss 373 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:40,785 Speaker 1: your teeth. That's good. Yeah, I know, but I like 374 00:18:40,825 --> 00:18:51,305 Speaker 1: my Oh okay, okay, onto beauty bite, beauty bite. I 375 00:18:51,345 --> 00:18:54,065 Speaker 1: did not even mean to have a segue. But mine's 376 00:18:54,065 --> 00:18:56,425 Speaker 1: got to do with tooth foss, does it? I wish 377 00:18:56,465 --> 00:18:59,545 Speaker 1: I brought some, but my hair's up anyway. So frizz 378 00:18:59,585 --> 00:19:02,265 Speaker 1: city's either raining and your hair's frizzy, or it's getting 379 00:19:02,305 --> 00:19:05,665 Speaker 1: humid and your hair's frizzy. Maybe not when I want. 380 00:19:07,385 --> 00:19:09,945 Speaker 1: I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just 381 00:19:10,025 --> 00:19:12,105 Speaker 1: use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush. 382 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:14,705 Speaker 1: But did you know this is what I've done when 383 00:19:14,705 --> 00:19:18,985 Speaker 1: I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you 384 00:19:18,985 --> 00:19:21,505 Speaker 1: have toothfloss with you, like all the time? No, because 385 00:19:21,505 --> 00:19:23,505 Speaker 1: I hate the feeling and I never floss my teeth. 386 00:19:24,305 --> 00:19:27,185 Speaker 1: I'm fine. The dentist has not. Well, look, I'm a 387 00:19:27,185 --> 00:19:28,945 Speaker 1: flos addict, and it's not great. I normally have those 388 00:19:28,985 --> 00:19:32,185 Speaker 1: little pixture things. But if you've got regular toothfloss and 389 00:19:32,225 --> 00:19:33,825 Speaker 1: you don't have any hair products, you get a tiny 390 00:19:33,825 --> 00:19:35,505 Speaker 1: bit of lip balm or something and you put it 391 00:19:35,545 --> 00:19:37,425 Speaker 1: on the floss. I wish I could do that doesn't 392 00:19:37,425 --> 00:19:39,225 Speaker 1: even already have like some product on it. It's a 393 00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:42,265 Speaker 1: bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frieze here, okay. 394 00:19:42,385 --> 00:19:43,665 Speaker 1: And then you put it. I put it on my 395 00:19:43,705 --> 00:19:46,265 Speaker 1: cent apart and then I go, h really firm. I 396 00:19:46,425 --> 00:19:47,465 Speaker 1: bet that works a tree. 397 00:19:47,545 --> 00:19:48,025 Speaker 2: It does. 398 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,785 Speaker 1: It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great 399 00:19:50,905 --> 00:19:54,265 Speaker 1: or like whatever. But if you've literally stuck on a 400 00:19:54,265 --> 00:19:57,865 Speaker 1: desert island with lip palm and toothfloss and you're really 401 00:19:57,865 --> 00:20:00,865 Speaker 1: worried about your frizz, you know, because the island's great, 402 00:20:01,145 --> 00:20:02,905 Speaker 1: you literally get like a length of you know, a 403 00:20:02,905 --> 00:20:06,865 Speaker 1: couple of centimet well, what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes, 404 00:20:07,305 --> 00:20:09,505 Speaker 1: And then like just like I just put like a 405 00:20:09,705 --> 00:20:12,145 Speaker 1: tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a 406 00:20:12,225 --> 00:20:14,865 Speaker 1: chuby lip barm on it, and then you just hold 407 00:20:14,905 --> 00:20:17,265 Speaker 1: it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm, 408 00:20:17,305 --> 00:20:19,745 Speaker 1: like like you're putting a hat on, and then you 409 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:21,665 Speaker 1: just slide it down the lengths of your hair and 410 00:20:21,705 --> 00:20:25,465 Speaker 1: it just MUSHes. Yes, and then you're not getting lots 411 00:20:25,465 --> 00:20:27,385 Speaker 1: of juicy lip farm on your hands, but also your 412 00:20:27,385 --> 00:20:30,625 Speaker 1: hands are way too heavy handed because it's the tiniest 413 00:20:30,625 --> 00:20:33,545 Speaker 1: string with the coating of lip balm, it just smushes 414 00:20:33,585 --> 00:20:36,825 Speaker 1: them down. But it's like nothing happened. That's genius. That's 415 00:20:36,865 --> 00:20:40,545 Speaker 1: actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty. Yeah, 416 00:20:40,585 --> 00:20:43,145 Speaker 1: you really should. It should be like a little sub channel. Yeah, 417 00:20:43,185 --> 00:20:44,985 Speaker 1: I've run out of ideas, but that was all I 418 00:20:45,025 --> 00:20:48,305 Speaker 1: had besides all my other great ones. What's your beauty? 419 00:20:48,305 --> 00:20:50,265 Speaker 4: It's a bit of a PSA, and I'm going to 420 00:20:50,545 --> 00:20:52,705 Speaker 4: loving a p SA right now. I actually really am 421 00:20:52,705 --> 00:20:56,785 Speaker 4: an I I feel like, yeah, soap and we will 422 00:20:56,825 --> 00:21:00,105 Speaker 4: link the video that I'm referencing in the show notes. 423 00:21:00,105 --> 00:21:03,145 Speaker 4: But it's been making the rounds on socials over the 424 00:21:03,225 --> 00:21:08,745 Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. There was this lovely lass who 425 00:21:08,785 --> 00:21:11,425 Speaker 4: basically came out and talked about what an esthetician has 426 00:21:11,465 --> 00:21:12,025 Speaker 4: done to her skin. 427 00:21:12,265 --> 00:21:13,145 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yes? 428 00:21:13,865 --> 00:21:17,865 Speaker 4: In La an esthetician is kind of like between a 429 00:21:17,945 --> 00:21:19,945 Speaker 4: skin therapist and a dermatologist. 430 00:21:20,065 --> 00:21:21,585 Speaker 1: I would say, like they've done a bit of training, 431 00:21:21,625 --> 00:21:24,225 Speaker 1: but not well. I mean it also depends where here. 432 00:21:24,265 --> 00:21:26,785 Speaker 1: They're very good. They are. Yeah, America, I think you 433 00:21:26,825 --> 00:21:28,665 Speaker 1: can just like go and buy lasers and stuff and 434 00:21:28,745 --> 00:21:31,145 Speaker 1: call yourself. And it was just a reminder. 435 00:21:31,185 --> 00:21:34,145 Speaker 4: So firstly, this esthetician who she trusted with her face 436 00:21:34,265 --> 00:21:38,985 Speaker 4: after many treatments, burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin 437 00:21:39,225 --> 00:21:39,865 Speaker 4: so badly. 438 00:21:39,945 --> 00:21:41,945 Speaker 1: The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were 439 00:21:41,985 --> 00:21:45,625 Speaker 1: doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right. Appeals. People think, oh, 440 00:21:45,625 --> 00:21:47,665 Speaker 1: it's just appeal. It's just something that you can know, 441 00:21:47,905 --> 00:21:51,105 Speaker 1: like putting acid on your phone. People can go so wrong. 442 00:21:51,225 --> 00:21:54,545 Speaker 1: And this is just why it's so important to know 443 00:21:54,865 --> 00:21:59,385 Speaker 1: who you're going to and anyway, and then she proceeded 444 00:21:59,425 --> 00:22:02,105 Speaker 1: to like the lady was kept trying to fix it. 445 00:22:02,585 --> 00:22:04,185 Speaker 1: She spent sixty thousand dollars. 446 00:22:04,505 --> 00:22:09,665 Speaker 4: Firstly, if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept. 447 00:22:09,505 --> 00:22:11,345 Speaker 1: Going going back to the same person trying to get 448 00:22:11,385 --> 00:22:13,505 Speaker 1: it fixed because the lady said, hey, I can help 449 00:22:13,545 --> 00:22:16,105 Speaker 1: you with this. I can fix this. But that lady 450 00:22:16,105 --> 00:22:18,745 Speaker 1: should have then covered it. I remember, but I would 451 00:22:18,785 --> 00:22:19,665 Speaker 1: also not go back to that. 452 00:22:19,745 --> 00:22:23,545 Speaker 4: No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger, 453 00:22:23,625 --> 00:22:25,785 Speaker 4: she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to 454 00:22:25,985 --> 00:22:29,905 Speaker 4: a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked, 455 00:22:29,945 --> 00:22:32,225 Speaker 4: and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got 456 00:22:32,225 --> 00:22:32,905 Speaker 4: sensitive skin. 457 00:22:33,065 --> 00:22:35,105 Speaker 1: Much skin lift. It like literally takes his skin off. 458 00:22:36,185 --> 00:22:36,945 Speaker 1: And that happened. 459 00:22:37,305 --> 00:22:40,305 Speaker 4: And the next day was her formal and she was 460 00:22:40,345 --> 00:22:43,465 Speaker 4: so self conscious and I called them up and I said, 461 00:22:43,545 --> 00:22:46,425 Speaker 4: she told you that she had sensitive skin, and I've 462 00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:50,105 Speaker 4: always been a really like bossy big sister, I said, 463 00:22:50,145 --> 00:22:50,745 Speaker 4: so you can. 464 00:22:50,625 --> 00:22:53,185 Speaker 1: Help her cover this up. So I took her back. 465 00:22:52,985 --> 00:22:56,345 Speaker 4: In there and made them help cover it up because 466 00:22:56,385 --> 00:22:59,225 Speaker 4: my makeup wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like, 467 00:22:59,265 --> 00:23:00,785 Speaker 4: look what you did because you didn't listen. 468 00:23:00,985 --> 00:23:03,985 Speaker 1: I think it's a really important reminder that these things 469 00:23:04,025 --> 00:23:06,985 Speaker 1: are serious. You know, we especially in our beauty bubble here, 470 00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:09,145 Speaker 1: we talk about these things like it ain't no thing, 471 00:23:09,225 --> 00:23:14,345 Speaker 1: but getting professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's 472 00:23:14,425 --> 00:23:16,265 Speaker 1: pretty full on and it can cause a lot of 473 00:23:16,345 --> 00:23:19,585 Speaker 1: damage in the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking 474 00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:21,865 Speaker 1: for recommendations from friends. 475 00:23:21,625 --> 00:23:25,225 Speaker 4: Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about 476 00:23:25,265 --> 00:23:27,665 Speaker 4: this before. When I was in my twenties, I was 477 00:23:27,705 --> 00:23:29,785 Speaker 4: doing a trial with a brand, so I was in 478 00:23:29,785 --> 00:23:33,065 Speaker 4: beauty media, so it was comped and I was doing 479 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,345 Speaker 4: weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts, 480 00:23:37,105 --> 00:23:41,065 Speaker 4: and my skin progressively got worse, and it looked always burnt, 481 00:23:41,225 --> 00:23:45,865 Speaker 4: and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they 482 00:23:45,865 --> 00:23:48,945 Speaker 4: were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, ugg, You're 483 00:23:48,985 --> 00:23:51,625 Speaker 4: not purging for that long. And in the end I 484 00:23:51,625 --> 00:23:53,945 Speaker 4: did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no, 485 00:23:53,985 --> 00:23:56,865 Speaker 4: this is not right. But I just I really felt 486 00:23:56,905 --> 00:23:59,665 Speaker 4: for that girl. And it's just a real reminder to 487 00:23:59,705 --> 00:24:04,785 Speaker 4: look into. Don't buy group on vouchers for treatments, don't 488 00:24:04,825 --> 00:24:09,105 Speaker 4: go to someone with little to no qualifications, sex. 489 00:24:09,705 --> 00:24:11,985 Speaker 1: Word of mouth, asking the your beauty Facebook, and how 490 00:24:11,985 --> 00:24:15,145 Speaker 1: about a consultant. Go home and think about it afore. 491 00:24:15,185 --> 00:24:17,505 Speaker 1: But there's a scar on my arm that's from when 492 00:24:17,505 --> 00:24:19,705 Speaker 1: I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where 493 00:24:19,745 --> 00:24:21,785 Speaker 1: I lived into the city and I had a laser 494 00:24:21,825 --> 00:24:24,665 Speaker 1: hair removal test patch back then. Because I've got very 495 00:24:24,665 --> 00:24:27,105 Speaker 1: hairy arms, I shaved them now see business, and that 496 00:24:27,225 --> 00:24:29,985 Speaker 1: scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through 497 00:24:30,065 --> 00:24:32,545 Speaker 1: to the bone. And I remember calling the next day 498 00:24:32,545 --> 00:24:33,985 Speaker 1: and like there was no camera phones. I was like, 499 00:24:34,625 --> 00:24:35,785 Speaker 1: and so I had to go back and show them 500 00:24:35,825 --> 00:24:37,945 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's your fault. And 501 00:24:37,985 --> 00:24:40,105 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, And I was already ashamed of 502 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:42,785 Speaker 1: my hairy arms, and you know then you have ashamed 503 00:24:42,825 --> 00:24:44,385 Speaker 1: of your scars. And that's the thing. Well, I'm not 504 00:24:44,505 --> 00:24:47,625 Speaker 1: I'm just like your negodgence. But when you're younger, I 505 00:24:47,625 --> 00:24:49,985 Speaker 1: don't think there was no social media to call people out. 506 00:24:50,665 --> 00:24:52,025 Speaker 1: And I'm not a huge calling out. 507 00:24:52,385 --> 00:24:54,665 Speaker 4: I firmly believe that a lot of business should be 508 00:24:54,705 --> 00:24:56,705 Speaker 4: handled behind closed doors because you don't realize that it 509 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:58,585 Speaker 4: can really impact a small business, So if you can 510 00:24:58,665 --> 00:24:59,545 Speaker 4: sort it out behind. 511 00:24:59,345 --> 00:25:01,985 Speaker 1: Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes, 512 00:25:02,025 --> 00:25:04,065 Speaker 1: follow your gut, do you. Yeah, I just don't go 513 00:25:04,185 --> 00:25:07,265 Speaker 1: for the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands. 514 00:25:07,385 --> 00:25:09,585 Speaker 1: I was just a little another soapbox persae for you 515 00:25:09,985 --> 00:25:14,705 Speaker 1: that toothfloss soapboxes. Better finally go home and washing my makeup. Oh, 516 00:25:14,745 --> 00:25:16,705 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good time. Thank you so 517 00:25:16,825 --> 00:25:18,585 Speaker 1: much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back 518 00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:20,505 Speaker 1: together our gosh, before we know what. I hope Kelly's 519 00:25:20,505 --> 00:25:23,345 Speaker 1: been home by then hopefully I've showered. 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