Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
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Speaker 3: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop
Speaker 3: culture Fixed. I'm and Venham and I'm Laura Brodnick. Back
Speaker 3: together again, Back together again. I feel like I haven't
Speaker 3: seen anyone like a year.
Speaker 2: It has been two weeks because of our schedules and
Speaker 2: our seat.
Speaker 3: Two weeks for us as a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: And look, there were a lot of rumors out there
Speaker 4: that we were fighting, but we're not. Guys. We ourselves started.
Speaker 2: We started.
Speaker 4: But we're back today for a very special event, which
Speaker 4: is the fact that the cast of the Fantastic Four
Speaker 4: first steps we're in Australia.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And we have those interviews coming up on the show today.
Speaker 3: So something this week has been very exciting for US
Speaker 3: Australians because we've been graced with the presence of four
Speaker 3: major A listers. Gonna listen them out for you, four
Speaker 3: superheroes if you four superhero A listens. So we have
Speaker 3: Pedro Pascal, we have Vanessa Kirby, we have Joseph Quinn,
Speaker 3: we have Eben Muss backrack and you might be wondering
Speaker 3: what did these four individuals have in common? Well, as
Speaker 3: a Marvel girlie, I'll tell you because they are starring
Speaker 3: in the next brand new Marvel Universe Fantastic.
Speaker 2: Four movie, Fantastic Four First Steps. So excited.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a girl so excited? Is this young
Speaker 4: lady right here?
Speaker 3: Okay? Because Fantastic Four have tried so so hard in
Speaker 3: history and you know what, I'm a Fantastic Four lover girl.
Speaker 3: I love Fantastic four so much and it's just been
Speaker 3: getting shit on shit on shit, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, no movies back in the day with like Jessica
Speaker 4: and Chris.
Speaker 2: Evans, they weren't critically acclaimed amazing.
Speaker 3: But Chris Evans is better as Captain in America.
Speaker 2: I must say his moment he found the character, loved it.
Speaker 3: The next one with Miles Teller and Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 3: could have been better.
Speaker 2: Can I just say?
Speaker 4: The director says that the studio ruined it for him,
Speaker 4: and I choose to believe that.
Speaker 2: I want his cut.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean love the cast, but I feel like
Speaker 3: they went on to do bigger and better thing. Absolutely
Speaker 3: the Fantastic Four, This Fantastic four, And I don't want
Speaker 3: any major spoilers because I actually haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3: You've seen clips of it.
Speaker 4: I say, I cannot spoil it because I also haven't
Speaker 4: seen at some clips.
Speaker 2: Guys, Marvel is wild with their security.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I think the promo for this
Speaker 3: particular movie has been so so good, right from the trailer,
Speaker 3: because we watched the trailer and I was like, why
Speaker 3: does the thing look so low fire like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: And then we slowly realized that, oh, this Fantastic Four
Speaker 3: movie is taking place in like the olden day, Yeah,
Speaker 3: back in the day. So they have I feel like,
Speaker 3: if you watch the Fantastic Four movies, they look very modern,
Speaker 3: very cool. This one looks like they come straight out
Speaker 3: of the comic books in the sixties, the traditional Fantastic
Speaker 3: Four uniform. It looks so good. The cinematography looks brilliant.
Speaker 3: And that's just from the trailer. Yeah, and you actually
Speaker 3: went to the big fan event that happened in Sydney.
Speaker 4: I did, Yeah, so they flew the cast in. So
Speaker 4: can I just say, this is how intense these things
Speaker 4: that I did not get A plus one I couldn't
Speaker 4: take you. I'm so sorry, you know, otherwise I always
Speaker 4: take you to everything. But it was very intense. We'll
Speaker 4: get into that because yeah, it was an experience, but
Speaker 4: before then they had a bit of time to flow out.
Speaker 4: And I haven't sort of seen this almost since maybe
Speaker 4: Taylor swift Land in the straight because from the moment
Speaker 4: they stepped off a plane in Sydney for the press tour,
Speaker 4: they were being tracked so intensely. There were fans at
Speaker 4: the airport, there were people like lining the roads to
Speaker 4: see them. There were so many paparazzi shots of them
Speaker 4: walking through the airport and getting off the plane, like
Speaker 4: no rest from the moment, and they walked you know,
Speaker 4: like you get off at the Sydney International Airport you
Speaker 4: have to go stwn that big curb and wait for
Speaker 4: the like oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just all standing there so much. I was like,
Speaker 2: what a way. I was like, that's why I get
Speaker 2: picked up from.
Speaker 3: The internet squareport for me to find Hugh Jackman's rude,
Speaker 3: because that is not the way all celebrities get picked
Speaker 3: up from our airport. We could have been standing there
Speaker 3: with them, We could have been right there connected Quinn's
Speaker 3: carrying his own luggage.
Speaker 2: I was like, together, guys.
Speaker 3: That's so funny. All I have to say is I'm
Speaker 3: so so grateful that they didn't go to any of
Speaker 3: my favorite restaurants.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, again from the Tailor Stift time you've been.
Speaker 3: I remember, I was very passionate about Taylor Swift going
Speaker 3: to my favorite restaurant and me not being able to
Speaker 3: get a booking for my birthday.
Speaker 2: I thought, you still can barely get a booking there.
Speaker 3: I now I recently went there, and that's because I
Speaker 3: booked it three months ago. So that's how my life
Speaker 3: is panning out from the Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Celebrities cannot come to our favorite rest And I was.
Speaker 3: Even more mad on top of that because I still
Speaker 3: get a ticket to a concert, ruining my wife and
Speaker 3: I don't even get to reap the benefits anyway about that.
Speaker 3: But because I was so concerned about this, I was like,
Speaker 3: I have to know everything that these four individuals have
Speaker 3: done on their trip in Sydney. And one of the
Speaker 3: big things they all did, well two of them did
Speaker 3: that we know of, is they did they did the Bondi,
Speaker 3: they did the Bondaie to Cookie Walk, the Hot Girl
Speaker 3: Walk if you will. Now I have things today, especially
Speaker 3: Vanessa Kirby did the walk with her husband. Look, if
Speaker 3: I was there in Bondai, I would have just passed
Speaker 3: her and not even realized because she encapsulated the Bondai look.
Speaker 3: She had her little like black hotpants, she had a
Speaker 3: little black walking bra like her little pregnant belly was
Speaker 3: out like all in black. She looked like a Bondie girl,
Speaker 3: like doing a hot girl walk. She had a phone
Speaker 3: in her hand, she had an Apple watch in her
Speaker 3: other hand. She knew, she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 3: Then we have Pedro Pascal, that poor sweet man. I
Speaker 3: don't think he was properly breefe where he was going, yes,
Speaker 3: or even what the walk was. I think it was
Speaker 3: maybe two. He was going to have like a stroll
Speaker 3: along the beach.
Speaker 4: Side and he was going down to look at the
Speaker 4: beach on like the road, and he was going to
Speaker 4: a cafe or something.
Speaker 2: That's the outfit he had on.
Speaker 3: And you know what, that's fair because I've had relatives
Speaker 3: from overseas who have been recommended to do the bond
Speaker 3: Aid to Couldjie walk, and then they've come back angry
Speaker 3: at us because they're like, you didn't tell us. It
Speaker 3: was like this massive hike. We thought we were going
Speaker 3: to the beach, so we all wore sandals and all
Speaker 3: wore us when we're now we're chafing, we're injured.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you're if you're not from Sydney, like
Speaker 4: that walk is spectacular, but it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not a hard hike or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Wh people say, are going for a hike and like,
Speaker 4: are you going for a hike or are you doing
Speaker 4: the bond Because that's embarrassing if you call me that
Speaker 4: a hike. But you do walk along some rocks, you
Speaker 4: walk up many wet steps, there's a few hills, like
Speaker 4: you've got to have at least have some runners and
Speaker 4: like you and like your active wear, there's a walk.
Speaker 3: I don't think Pedro's team got the brim. He looks
Speaker 3: very good. So he's wearing his green added as sambas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: That doesn't have to knin.
Speaker 4: I just say that's the shoes were not going to
Speaker 4: have the right traction for those slippery steps.
Speaker 2: There's no railing on one side.
Speaker 3: With those shoes. You feel every single rock.
Speaker 4: The imagine if Pedro Pascal International Treasure came to Sydney
Speaker 4: and wasn't breathed and then slipped down the steps and
Speaker 4: hurt himself on our watch.
Speaker 2: On our watch, and.
Speaker 3: If I was BONDI steps, he'd still be falling till
Speaker 3: this day. Yeah, it's a big step still there, missed Premier.
Speaker 3: He's also wearing the whitest pants I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I know, you just know that those weren't nice by
Speaker 2: the end of the.
Speaker 3: Water, and he's wearing like this beige like coat. It
Speaker 3: is cool here in Sydney, but he looks like he
Speaker 3: should be in a scene in Big Little Lives as
Speaker 3: Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 4: Yes, he should be staring with slee at the ocean
Speaker 4: on a cliff, not doing that walk.
Speaker 3: Which kind of makes sense why Vanessa Kirby opted to
Speaker 3: walk behind him. Oh yeah, with a husband.
Speaker 2: Usually when they are together, they're hugging the whole time.
Speaker 2: I think they got to the walk and she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna hang back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she wants to fit in and he very
Speaker 3: much is not fitting in. Also, these are paparazzi shots,
Speaker 3: so we're not gonna post them. But in every single
Speaker 3: shot there's no beach inside. It's like they saw us
Speaker 3: up and they're like, oh, we can't put that in sand. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have to walk. He's walking in the park,
Speaker 3: he's walking on grass, he's walking on footpaths. It could
Speaker 3: be anywhere, but supposedly it's Bondai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, allegedly.
Speaker 3: Allegedly it's Bondai. I do want to talk about all
Speaker 3: of their outfits in general? Oh sure, because I was
Speaker 3: looking at even though I didn't get a ticket as
Speaker 3: a fan event, I'd very kindly got emailed all the
Speaker 3: photos of what I.
Speaker 2: Can't say that happens to me as well.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll be like, Hi, this amazing event happened last night.
Speaker 4: Here's all the photos. We love you to run a piece.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what's worse than not inviting someone
Speaker 4: to a party? Not inviting them and the next day
Speaker 4: sending them a press release and a specific email with
Speaker 4: your name in it say how good it was?
Speaker 3: Like here, hey, am, here's what you missed. Let me
Speaker 3: know if this is good enough for this film, Like
Speaker 3: it's not, I don't get to go. But the photo
Speaker 3: of them in front of the opera House, which every
Speaker 3: single celebrity does. It's like the most iconic like celebrity
Speaker 3: photosh had to do outside the opera House. Their outfits
Speaker 3: are incredible. They know they are the most good looking
Speaker 3: cast in history.
Speaker 2: Because we know they have a group chat.
Speaker 4: It's called Abba because they were trying to pick like
Speaker 4: famous force throughout history. So I feel like they did
Speaker 4: talk in the group chat because the thing about I
Speaker 4: won't outwear celebrities stay even though I feel like people
Speaker 4: know there's one very fancy hotel on the harbor where
Speaker 4: all visiting celebrities stay. And when like we the media
Speaker 4: go to interview them, it's always set up in a
Speaker 4: specific spot so that when you interview them you can
Speaker 4: see the opera house behind them, because I think they
Speaker 4: flew them to Sydney and they want to prove that
Speaker 4: they're in Sydney. They're like, look at the Opera House.
Speaker 4: It's right there. And the cast always like has a
Speaker 4: break from press and goes out in separate outfits and
Speaker 4: does their photos in front of the opera House. And
Speaker 4: sometimes they all come out and you can just tell
Speaker 4: that no one had spoken beforehand around what they were wearing,
Speaker 4: because some people are all dressed up in a gown
Speaker 4: some people are like in very chill clothes, they have
Speaker 4: clashing patterns and colors.
Speaker 2: But this one they were all very synced up.
Speaker 3: Very very synced up. I mean, I wish they had
Speaker 3: this in full sight before they did the Bondi Walk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a gir Chad.
Speaker 3: Wasn't firing Chad, No one was, nothing was happening in there.
Speaker 3: But I feel like these photos, like the professional photos,
Speaker 3: come out really well. So all the photo shoots. This
Speaker 3: happened before the premiere.
Speaker 4: From what I know from tracking them the way I was, yes,
Speaker 4: both the moments I was within the moments I wasn't. Yes,
Speaker 4: they flew into Australia, they did the bond Ei to
Speaker 4: Couljie walk. I'm assuming they went out and about and
Speaker 4: saw other things under cover of night and darkness, because
Speaker 4: we don't have pictures of that.
Speaker 2: They were at their hotel.
Speaker 4: They did press over two days, which is also usually
Speaker 4: it's all in one day. They did press over two days,
Speaker 4: and they did the fan event on the Tuesday night,
Speaker 4: and then they zipped around Sydney sometime busy. But those
Speaker 4: particular photos you're talking about were taken I believe on
Speaker 4: the Tuesday afternoon before the premiere and then after I
Speaker 4: interviewed them, they literally went to the airport and they
Speaker 4: were out here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, So Kate, tell me about the premiere.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was bananas.
Speaker 3: It was wild because it's like we have different type
Speaker 3: of premiers here in Australia. We have premiers that are
Speaker 3: like world premiers like Wickeds. Yeah, we have like Australian
Speaker 3: premiers where it's like the first time showing in Australia.
Speaker 3: We have just early screening, yes, where you just get
Speaker 3: like your little popcorn. You're like here you go watch
Speaker 3: a movie. But this was like one of those combined
Speaker 3: premiers plus a fan event.
Speaker 4: Yes, so they've been doing a few worldwide fan events.
Speaker 4: The premiere is still coming, Like, we haven't even seen
Speaker 4: those looks in those pictures because we were quite early
Speaker 4: in the international press frunt so like the whole thing's
Speaker 4: just starting, so just step in for that. So this
Speaker 4: was a fan event where they couldn't show the movie
Speaker 4: because you know, Marvel, Lock and Key, all that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff, But they were having the cast here, so
Speaker 4: it was a chance for fans and media to see
Speaker 4: the cast. So got to the Entertainment Quarter, which is
Speaker 4: where they always set up like, because it's outside and
Speaker 4: not in the city where they sometimes have premiers, you
Speaker 4: can set up this huge, long carpet so they can
Speaker 4: do this full press thing. It's a bigger space. It's
Speaker 4: a bigger space. They always have these huge barricades and
Speaker 4: fans can come and line up on either side. And
Speaker 4: this is one of those events where they put the
Speaker 4: call out to fans like a week in advance and
Speaker 4: say the cast is going to be here this place.
Speaker 2: I have nearly been killed many times before.
Speaker 3: I've had a whole tray of drinks fall on me.
Speaker 4: Really, yes, okay, I have been on that carpet with
Speaker 4: huge superstars. In fact, it's mostly for Marvel, like I've
Speaker 4: been on that carpet before with the cast of the Avengers,
Speaker 4: or like with thor for with Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 3: For Thorough My good friend.
Speaker 2: Thought Make Good Soave Thaw was there. And it is
Speaker 2: so intense.
Speaker 4: Because there's so many people They've lined up for hours
Speaker 4: that sometimes the barricades I have felt they're about to
Speaker 4: fall inward and I'm about to be trampled to death.
Speaker 4: And my death wouldn't even be a blip on the news.
Speaker 4: If if one of the Avengers was killed next to me.
Speaker 2: It felt like that.
Speaker 3: I can think they also had Bridget Jones's diaries.
Speaker 4: Yes, with the fans pushing it. So this particular one huge.
Speaker 4: You know how you and I when we're at these events,
Speaker 4: we're walking through and we always look at the people
Speaker 4: with the signs and stuff, and they've got these really
Speaker 4: hopeful but exhausted like the people at the Wicked premiere,
Speaker 4: and we were talking to them in the line and
Speaker 4: they're like, we've been here for two days. There were
Speaker 4: people at this Fantastic four event who had been there
Speaker 4: for over thirty hours standing on that barricade. There were
Speaker 4: people who had driven through the night, they had flowed
Speaker 4: into state, they had taken time off work. So the
Speaker 4: people for thirty hours had obviously been there the day before,
Speaker 4: still standing still holding their signs for thirty hours. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I cannot even imagine.
Speaker 3: I know you are just strolling and walking in the cart.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was yet it was huge, so like
Speaker 4: people had signs everything for the cast members. So like
Speaker 4: we got there, we went through quite quickly, and then
Speaker 4: the cast came after us, and it was obviously and
Speaker 4: I talk about this in the interviews of the cast,
Speaker 4: because I asked them about that. I think it's one
Speaker 4: of the most interesting things to us, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, what is it like?
Speaker 4: Because people were breaking down, sobbing, people were screaming. It
Speaker 4: was a whole thing. The cast, I've got to say,
Speaker 4: was super generous with their time. I saw Pedro, Vanessa,
Speaker 4: Eben and Joseph, all of them actually going along the
Speaker 4: line taking as many photos as they hood, Calming people
Speaker 4: down who were like having like huge breakdowns over meeting
Speaker 4: with them was really beautiful. Obviously, they can't get to everyone,
Speaker 4: and I did see that there were people sobbing for
Speaker 4: a different reason. There were people sobbing because they met them,
Speaker 4: and then there were people sobbing because they had been
Speaker 4: there for twenty four hours and they had some of
Speaker 4: them had like flown, you know, and rented cars and
Speaker 4: book accommodation and everything to see the stars. And obviously
Speaker 4: they can't see everyone, but some people also wait twenty
Speaker 4: four hours just to get a glimpse of them, and
Speaker 4: they know that's all they're going to get, and they're
Speaker 4: happy to do that. It's just the power of these
Speaker 4: fandoms is so incredible, so Pedro and Meddessa and Joseph
Speaker 4: and Eben like the Fantastic for They also spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time like at the front, like doing all
Speaker 4: these like photos together, and they just really turned it on,
Speaker 4: like they know what the people want. They were all hugging.
Speaker 4: They stood in a group and they were like all hugging,
Speaker 4: whispering to each other and like Pedro was dancing for
Speaker 4: the crowd and cheering, like they know what the people want.
Speaker 4: Inside was just like no holds barred with the expense
Speaker 4: of the event, like crazy like Marvel and Fantastic four
Speaker 4: themed cocktails and treats and all this sort of crazy stuff.
Speaker 4: And it was so interesting because there was three cinemas,
Speaker 4: that's how many people were there. It still couldn't get
Speaker 4: tickets for people.
Speaker 3: It's a massive Usually when we're there there's like maximum two.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, so they had three and it was crazy.
Speaker 4: So when they came into our cinema, they like walked
Speaker 4: past me and they're all like like, wait on that
Speaker 4: crowd and.
Speaker 3: I have to talk about your grainy.
Speaker 2: Oh come on, no, it's a dark theater. What do
Speaker 2: you want for me?
Speaker 3: He's like, you took it on a Brick.
Speaker 2: I took it on the work phone.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, there was actually a bit of
Speaker 4: contention between Tina Burke and I are like the camera
Speaker 4: because Pedro came up and he like waved into the
Speaker 4: camera and said hello to me. And as they went past,
Speaker 4: like Joseph came over and said hello, like he waved
Speaker 4: into the camera. I was loving it because I was
Speaker 4: trying to get the content for work, but I also
Speaker 4: had my head downs. I'm like, don't look at me,
Speaker 4: don't look at me. I'm gonna interview you tomorrow, and
Speaker 4: I don't want you to think I'm a crazy fan.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Also, Emily just on that they're walking through
Speaker 2: a theater. It's dark.
Speaker 4: I tried to get content for the spillers. We posted
Speaker 4: it on our pages. What would you have done well?
Speaker 3: As my background is social media, I think I would
Speaker 3: have done a better job. But that's all I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: This is just my call out for Marble, Like if
Speaker 3: he wanted a good video, I was available, no geddy,
Speaker 3: ready to be behind the camera. I could have gotten
Speaker 3: you with them right.
Speaker 2: Well, I did what I could in the moment.
Speaker 4: Okay, they got up and they went into every different
Speaker 4: cinema and did like a little chat and everything, and
Speaker 4: they just seemed really over well. I'm so funny because
Speaker 4: Pedro walked into the cinema and he looked around and
Speaker 4: everyone is screaming and losing and these are media, so
Speaker 4: I was like, this is even the fans that were
Speaker 4: outside because most of them couldn't come in, but everyone
Speaker 4: else in the was losing their minds.
Speaker 2: And Pedro goes, nice theater, Yeah, nice theater. Nice mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was expecting, very well done.
Speaker 2: He just wanted to say something really lovely.
Speaker 4: And then he had this beautiful white shirt that was
Speaker 4: like also a bit see through so you could like
Speaker 4: prominently see his nipples, which is so hot. And then
Speaker 4: people were comparing him to like the scene in Pride
Speaker 4: and Prejudice when Colin Firth jumps in the lake and
Speaker 4: his top is see through, and I was like, you
Speaker 4: know what, this man just knows what the world wants
Speaker 4: from him. And as he walked out, he was trying
Speaker 4: to say goodbye and helloda as many people. That's the thing,
Speaker 4: like they're trying to say hello toa as many people
Speaker 4: as they can.
Speaker 3: I probably would have passed out if he looked me
Speaker 3: in the either way he looked you in the eye.
Speaker 4: Did you see he came so close to the camera
Speaker 4: that I didn't even have time to zoom.
Speaker 3: Him so close in the camera that you just see
Speaker 3: his like you just see his shirt shirty, That's what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like you didn't even move back with the camera.
Speaker 4: He's just like I didn't have time all of a sudden, Guys,
Speaker 4: I cannot tell you what it's like when all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2: Is coming towards you so close.
Speaker 4: We were so close our hands only touched, and I
Speaker 4: was seated and I had you know what I'm likek
Speaker 4: at a premiere and I had three glasses of wine next
Speaker 4: to me because also we had to wait for a
Speaker 4: million an hour for them to come. They spent so
Speaker 4: long doing the carpet to wait in the theater for
Speaker 4: milli an hour. So yeah, I had three wines and
Speaker 4: a popcorn and a chop top and he looked down
Speaker 4: at the Oh my god, Pedro Pascal looked at all
Speaker 4: my wines and he didn't say anything, say anything. He
Speaker 4: was like, this girl's not doing Yeah, he was like,
Speaker 4: this girl's not doing drive to I'm not going to
Speaker 4: comment on that. So, yeah, very intense event. And then
Speaker 4: and then the next day you had to interview them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did I sleep that night?
Speaker 4: No? So I got to the junket, which is when
Speaker 4: they have visiting talents, this whole thing. Everyone's in this
Speaker 4: fancy hotel. You've got to you know, check in. Then
Speaker 4: you've got to go upstairs, and it's this whole thing
Speaker 4: of like you wait in this room, then you wait
Speaker 4: in this room, then you sit in the chair and
Speaker 4: the person in the chair is the next one going in,
Speaker 4: and you get timed from the moment you walk in
Speaker 4: the door and it's very quick turnaround, so you have
Speaker 4: a very short window of time. And for us it's
Speaker 4: so nerve wracking because some journalists go when they're just
Speaker 4: getting something for social but for us it's like we've
Speaker 4: got to get enough for a podcast, articles social and
Speaker 4: so it's a very intense experience. But my first interview
Speaker 4: of the day was with Joseph and Evan who in
Speaker 4: the film play Johnny Storm and The Thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: obviously they come from very beloved fandoms from The Bear
Speaker 4: and Strange Things, respectively, They've both obviously done so many
Speaker 4: other like big blockbuster movies or TV shows, so they
Speaker 4: have this huge fandom.
Speaker 3: I have a question because I know you've seen like
Speaker 3: little clips of the film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so at the screening, that's the thing. They can't
Speaker 4: show the whole movie, so they showed twenty It was
Speaker 4: actually nearly thirty minutes of just different clips from the movie.
Speaker 4: It looks incredible.
Speaker 3: Do you think we get a good amount of screen
Speaker 3: time of Eben just looking like Eben?
Speaker 4: Again, I haven't seen the movie, but they showed clips
Speaker 4: of like the Fantastic Four when they're all astronauts going.
Speaker 2: Up into space how they get their powers.
Speaker 4: So I think you get some clips of him as Eben,
Speaker 4: but you also get a lot of him and like
Speaker 4: the full kind of rocks looking the thing. But they
Speaker 4: chose him because they wanted that character because he's going
Speaker 4: through a lot, like he's had this not just does
Speaker 4: he have powers like the rest of the but he
Speaker 4: has this huge physical transformation and he's the only one
Speaker 4: of the Fantastic Four who can't kind of blend into.
Speaker 2: Society with his powers.
Speaker 4: Every time he steps outside, it's like that's him, And
Speaker 4: so they wanted a character that could convey a lot
Speaker 4: of emotion through the special effects, which is why they
Speaker 4: picked Eben, and I think.
Speaker 3: He does a really good job of him. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: So you interviewed first, Joseph and Eben. This is the interview.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to listen.
Speaker 4: Well, it is so lovely to meet you both, and
Speaker 4: there's so much excitement for this film, and I wanted
Speaker 4: to start by asking you both. I think there's a
Speaker 4: bit of a misconception that sometimes people come to these
Speaker 4: movies because they want to see the action sequences or
Speaker 4: the stunts. But real fans know we come because we're
Speaker 4: so invested in the characters and we need to care
Speaker 4: about them. So I wanted to ask you both, what
Speaker 4: is the most compelling thing about your characters in the
Speaker 4: movie that is separate to the superhero powers that they have.
Speaker 6: I think there's something quite aspirational about Johnny. There's the
Speaker 6: kind of longing that he has a fascination that he
Speaker 6: has with space, of like maybe looking for answers in
Speaker 6: some way. I think he's very kind and loyal, and
Speaker 6: I think that that loyalty is shine in the film.
Speaker 6: He's a bit of a searcher, isn't he Yeah? I
Speaker 6: think so.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love Ben.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ben.
Speaker 7: Also again, like loyalty is something that I've really sort
Speaker 7: of latched on doing with him. I don't know so
Speaker 7: much of his internal state is because of what's happened
Speaker 7: to him, so it's hard to separate those things out.
Speaker 7: But yeah, a patience there, I think.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's lovely.
Speaker 4: And also something we see with your character that we've
Speaker 4: seen from the fan snippers that have been released is
Speaker 4: he has a bit of a love story and we're
Speaker 4: getting to see that side of his life. Can you
Speaker 4: give us a little sneak peak of how that's going
Speaker 4: to unfold in the movie? No? Oh, okay, well I
Speaker 4: thought I shoot my shot because that from the fan
Speaker 4: screening last.
Speaker 2: Night, that was one of the biggest cheers that came
Speaker 2: up for the audience. Really, it was my duty to.
Speaker 5: Ask you, oh, that's.
Speaker 7: My guard was going to be?
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
Speaker 7: I've been through some rigorous medium.
Speaker 2: You're a vault, I understand.
Speaker 4: And speaking about the fan event last night, which was
Speaker 4: the energy there was just incredible, and I was talking
Speaker 4: to some of the people, some of them had lined
Speaker 4: up for thirty hours to see you come down the carpet.
Speaker 4: They had traveled into state, taken time off work, or
Speaker 4: quite emotional seeing you and I know you've both spoken
Speaker 4: about how grateful you are for the fandom of this movie.
Speaker 4: But what is that moment like when you're interacting with people,
Speaker 4: is there a sense of sort of responsibility to give
Speaker 4: them that moment that they've built up?
Speaker 6: So, I mean there's certainly a feeling of there's a
Speaker 6: reverence for their time and a gratitude for their support
Speaker 6: for the film. You're just mindful of that. You've got
Speaker 6: to be careful with people's enthusiasm and their investment. You know,
Speaker 6: we spent a lot of time hanging out with everyone
Speaker 6: last night and like signing stuff, and that's that's lovely.
Speaker 6: But I think more than having a responsibility to look
Speaker 6: after that moment, I suppose, Yeah, that's a very non answer.
Speaker 7: I feel responsibility one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I feel like this.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't take that ad rage that. I
Speaker 7: don't take any of that that personally, that's not about me.
Speaker 7: That's about this family of this Marvel's first family that's
Speaker 7: been around since nineteen sixty one, and people have this
Speaker 7: relationship to that and this excitement about seeing us do
Speaker 7: this thing, and I feel like I honor that moment
Speaker 7: so much, and I try to meet the fans there
Speaker 7: and sort of join hands with them and on my
Speaker 7: own sort of like excitement about sharing this thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that very much was the vibe
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 4: People seemed very grateful for your time, and I think
Speaker 4: people are also just loving seeing the four of you
Speaker 4: interacted these press events and at these premieres. And I
Speaker 4: know how closely you've worked together behind the scenes bringing
Speaker 4: this story to life, and so in that what is
Speaker 4: most interesting or surprising thing that you learned about each
Speaker 4: other when working on this project and spending all those
Speaker 4: long days.
Speaker 2: On set was interesting.
Speaker 6: I learned about Evans's taste, is how he's very spar
Speaker 6: and very well read. I trust his opinion on matters
Speaker 6: of art, cuisine and things like that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I really lovely.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what Sobri, I mean, I feel
Speaker 7: like I know Do so well at this point. You know,
Speaker 7: it's just like he's really I feel like I've known
Speaker 7: him forever, So I don't know, like do all. This
Speaker 7: guy's such a deeply talented character and you know, such
Speaker 7: a lovely person they get to hang out with.
Speaker 4: Pedre was telling everyone one last night that you were
Speaker 4: quite the chaos demon. He was saying behind the set
Speaker 4: and then set it on stage. Should you had a
Speaker 4: comment on that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you point a finger at somebody, you got
Speaker 7: three fingers pointed back at yoursel.
Speaker 4: Okay, I will ask him about that, Go and talk
Speaker 4: to him now. Well, thank you both so much for
Speaker 4: your time, so lovely to meet you, and I'm so
Speaker 4: sad to see the movie. Guys, I just need to
Speaker 4: Emily watch that interview just then for the first time,
Speaker 4: and she just made a gun with her finger and
Speaker 4: looked down at it with such a confused face.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were doing. This is a podcast.
Speaker 2: You have to tell them what you just did.
Speaker 3: When then said, when you point a finger at somebody,
Speaker 3: you have three pointer back at yourself. I didn't understand that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Physically, you just made your hand into a little gun
Speaker 4: and you looked down. Yeah, because three fingers point back at.
Speaker 3: You for your thumb pointing to the God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the funniest thing.
Speaker 4: So then I know that that sounded like inhectic in
Speaker 4: a way that I'm talking quite fast, even though I
Speaker 4: do all the time, and it's quick, but you have
Speaker 4: such a limited time with them, and there's so many
Speaker 4: no go areas about all of their personal life, which
Speaker 4: obviously but also about the movie. And that's why a
Speaker 4: lot of mone interviews, or rather with all of the
Speaker 4: cast over like the decades that they've been making these movies,
Speaker 4: are either very erratic and they're talking crazy, or they're
Speaker 4: being very subdued because they're just not allowed to say anything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was so funny because when you go into
Speaker 4: these rooms, it's this whole big set where the talents
Speaker 4: sitting up on a stand and you walk up and
Speaker 4: you sit on the chair opposite them. All these lights
Speaker 4: and cameras and things, and then you go down behind
Speaker 4: the partition and you have to wait for a few
Speaker 4: seconds after your interview's finished, but you're out of sight
Speaker 4: from the talent to have the film crew hand you
Speaker 4: the tapes with your interview. So I'm staying there waiting
Speaker 4: to get my tapes, and I hear Evan go Chao Steamen,
Speaker 4: Chao Stemen Pedro called me a Chao Steamen, and he's
Speaker 4: so shocked, and I wanted to yell back. I wanted
Speaker 4: to stick my head back around the petition and say
Speaker 4: he said it on stage when you were there. The
Speaker 4: clips are everywhere saying it behind your back.
Speaker 3: What was really funny about those interviews is that your
Speaker 3: questions were so so good.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: It's so stressful because you have literally it really took
Speaker 3: them by surprise, like some of them, like some of
Speaker 3: them were like yeah, they were like oh, I didn't
Speaker 3: even think of that, or like yeah, and I know,
Speaker 3: like in that moment, you're on a time limit. And
Speaker 3: every time they kept pausing, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, come on, is it. I'm like, yeah, I nearly.
Speaker 2: You can see my hand tapping on my leg a
Speaker 2: bit of the.
Speaker 4: Video because I'm like, boys, step it up, got.
Speaker 2: Two minutes, lego.
Speaker 4: But I should say maybe they sound a little stand
Speaker 4: offish in the clip there because they're very kind of
Speaker 4: low spoken.
Speaker 2: Man, they're a bit graft. They're both looking down a lot.
Speaker 2: I should say. When I walked into the room, they
Speaker 2: both stood.
Speaker 4: Up and shook my hand and Evan's like, nice to
Speaker 4: meet you, eb and Droves like, hello, is so nice
Speaker 4: to meet you.
Speaker 2: I'm Joseph.
Speaker 4: So that is really nice because a lot of celebrities
Speaker 4: don't even do that, like they're walking, they'll be like
Speaker 4: they won't even look at you until the camera starts.
Speaker 4: So I sometimes think that moment of like looking in
Speaker 4: the eye, shaking hands, like we're both human beings, we're
Speaker 4: both at work, which is what I also find when
Speaker 4: celebrities treat you bad, I'm like I'm at work.
Speaker 3: Also, Joseph could be going through something we've seen photo
Speaker 3: a Doja Cat with her new don't bring that, so
Speaker 3: you never know the people too.
Speaker 4: Also, I think he's often like Joseph especially skews more
Speaker 4: to being like I'm a serious actor kind of life.
Speaker 4: So I think the questions he liked the most. I
Speaker 4: saw his eyes kind of change.
Speaker 2: All of his.
Speaker 3: Interviews, even with casts and stuff, are or like he
Speaker 3: comes across it's a sensitive boy.
Speaker 2: He did that.
Speaker 4: And then I walked out of one room and I
Speaker 4: walked straight into the next room, which contained Vanessa Kirby
Speaker 4: and Pedro Pascal and so I walked into the room.
Speaker 4: They're sitting up on a platform. I walk over to them.
Speaker 4: They're both super lovely. As I walk into the room,
Speaker 4: they're sitting together on these chairs and Pedro's arm is
Speaker 4: wrapped around Vanessa and pretty much stayed there. I know
Speaker 4: she's living the dream. She's a beautiful, talented movie star,
Speaker 4: and Pedro Pascal is obsessed with her.
Speaker 3: And I also think he's obsessed with like every single
Speaker 3: person he works with.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I know, but I think this is particularly,
Speaker 4: like this bond is particular. And I also know he
Speaker 4: says he sometimes like because he gets nervous and interviews,
Speaker 4: he sometimes likes to be like holding or touching his
Speaker 4: co star if he's close with them, because it gives
Speaker 4: him a sense of like like an anchor in the moment,
Speaker 4: which I get. And I feel like he was very chatty.
Speaker 4: But I've gotta say Pedro Pascal a shy, sensitive man,
Speaker 4: and I almost kind of relate in a way because
Speaker 4: I feel like he's in his element walking down the
Speaker 4: red carpet and seeing all the fans and waving and smiling,
Speaker 4: because it's like he's performing to the masses and he's
Speaker 4: quite removed. But I sometimes feel like sometimes in an
Speaker 4: interview with a smaller setting, he can kind of come
Speaker 4: across like quite nervous, and I did feel that in
Speaker 4: the moment, so he was holding onto Vanessa.
Speaker 3: He's spoken about how he does have like social anxiety
Speaker 3: and like crowds and stuff like that. So if you
Speaker 3: do see him on red carpets or even in like
Speaker 3: those big like stage productions and stuff, if he has
Speaker 3: a female coast near him, he'll always be holding them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think they know, Like there's been so many
Speaker 3: times where you see them also like grab his hand,
Speaker 3: Like there's this video of Vanessa Kirby where they're on
Speaker 3: a red carpet and she like takes his hand out
Speaker 3: of his pocket and like holds it. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: think it's just it's such a nice to do for
Speaker 3: someone when you know how they feel in those situations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So it's the whole thing. So he's holding
Speaker 4: on to her. They both say hello to me and
Speaker 4: shake my hand. Yes, this hand has touched Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2: I have not washed it. I have I sanitized it
Speaker 2: all the time, but my spirit it's there.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you one thing that makes all of
Speaker 4: this just so awkward for me personally, Like it looks
Speaker 4: so glam from the outside, but again, you're up on
Speaker 4: this raised platform, so the talent sit there and you
Speaker 4: have to walk up these little rickety stairs onto this
Speaker 4: platform and sit in your chair for a normal sized human. Lovely,
Speaker 4: wonderful you slip into the chair for me. Because I'm
Speaker 4: so tall, they often have to move all the cameras
Speaker 4: and mics, but that takes up my interview time, so
Speaker 4: instead of gracefully sitting down, I have to do a
Speaker 4: weird dip and bob which I've perfected over the years,
Speaker 4: and the junkid setting, I have to do a high
Speaker 4: nice to meet you, and then I have to do
Speaker 4: this weird thing and plot myself in the camera and
Speaker 4: then jerk my head back so that I don't hit
Speaker 4: my head on the cameras. And so every interview starts
Speaker 4: with me doing that. I said to them, and I
Speaker 4: say to everyone, I'm so sorry, tall girl problems, like
Speaker 4: I just have to And Vanessa Koby, who's also very tall,
Speaker 4: She's like, I get it, I get it, You're good.
Speaker 2: And then we started the interview and it is emotional here.
Speaker 2: It is so lovely to meet you both.
Speaker 4: And I think something that we've really loved seeing from
Speaker 4: the promotion of this movie and the press to her
Speaker 4: is this BOMD that the whole cast has. So I
Speaker 4: wanted to start by asking what was the most interesting
Speaker 4: thing that you learned about each other on the long
Speaker 4: days filming this movie.
Speaker 5: You you hush, Oh.
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to say something. This is
Speaker 2: a safe space. Look, yes, I am a grump. No,
Speaker 2: I'm a grump.
Speaker 1: No, listen. The only reason version no, it doesn't if
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 8: The least grumpy on this on what this prestol no
Speaker 8: on the movie.
Speaker 2: Fantastical or no.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: The only reason I love is because he is. Look
Speaker 1: at his smile. He doesn't stop smiling. He never stops smiling.
Speaker 1: And about I would say six pm. If we go
Speaker 1: into overtime, then he gets a little bit stupid. I'm
Speaker 1: very cranky, but that's the last time.
Speaker 5: And then it passes and then he faces.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna tell the tree, I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell the absolute truth here. We had to
Speaker 8: do these like promo things. We were shooting all day long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were doing this longer.
Speaker 8: And and Joe and Vanessa they were popping off about
Speaker 8: the fact that we were going to have to wear exhausted,
Speaker 8: she's pregnant and the whole thing. And they get me
Speaker 8: all worked up. They get me all worked up, and
Speaker 8: my protective vibes get going, and then we and then
Speaker 8: we and then we get my my shackles are up
Speaker 8: and everything like that. And then we get there and
Speaker 8: I'm ready to like make it just go as fast
Speaker 8: as possible. And then the two of them are like, well,
Speaker 8: why don't we try.
Speaker 2: It like this? Or why don't we try it like that?
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's talk about this a little bit longer.
Speaker 5: And then heapy turtle.
Speaker 2: You and you said, don't get snuffy with me. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm.
Speaker 5: With my finger my finger like that.
Speaker 4: Speaking in this interaction. Fans loved seeing you on the
Speaker 4: red carpet the fan event last night. I was talking
Speaker 4: to them someone people had been waiting for thirty hours
Speaker 4: to see you. They traveled, they were bursting into tears
Speaker 4: when they saw you.
Speaker 2: What is that moment like?
Speaker 4: And is there anyone in the industry that you've met
Speaker 4: that you would have that reaction to, that you would
Speaker 4: be that starstruck.
Speaker 8: There are a couple of people that I don't think
Speaker 8: i'd be able to. I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 8: have met. Yeah, I couldn't have met Tina Turner. I
Speaker 8: couldn't have met I couldn't have no I couldn't have.
Speaker 2: I would have. I would have, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 8: But there are certain people I made my religion. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: speech help it sort of an early imprint in life.
Speaker 5: Yet be the King the other day, didn't you?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 1: Tell me the Spices girls for me when I was younger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I had met the Spice girls, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I would have done.
Speaker 4: I met Melcy the other day and I couldn't say anything.
Speaker 4: I'm still thinking about it. I understand still got.
Speaker 5: This mythological amazing.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I want to ask you a bit of
Speaker 4: both about the evolution of your careers, because Vanessa, when
Speaker 4: you came to Australia in twenty seventeen, you were so
Speaker 4: generous with your time.
Speaker 2: You came into our office, remember exactly.
Speaker 1: Do you really the white doors, Yes, the big full
Speaker 1: white doors.
Speaker 4: I was not expecting you to remember it so long ago.
Speaker 4: You came into our office. You and I did a
Speaker 4: Facebook live on a tiny camera on the tiny chairs.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: When you walked in, I went my brain went, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't want to say in case you're
Speaker 1: like no.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, no, I was remember, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: And months after that we called it the Vanessa Kirby Chair.
Speaker 4: But I remember at the time you speaking about after
Speaker 4: we did our podcast together, the stories that you wanted
Speaker 4: to tell and the characters that you wanted to play
Speaker 4: in your career. And now seeing you go from that
Speaker 4: huge moment to this moment, what has been the kind
Speaker 4: of most I guess surreal moment in your career that
Speaker 4: you thought, I can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 1: I actually think to do with this movie, the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here next to one of my favorite
Speaker 1: people in my life. No, I actually get emotional thinking
Speaker 1: about it because that is something that I had almost
Speaker 1: Now I am actually welling up. I had accepted that
Speaker 1: you're not always going to find your best best friends
Speaker 1: on things, you know what I mean, Like you might
Speaker 1: find it when you do theater when you were younger
Speaker 1: and on the Crown, we definitely had that, and I've
Speaker 1: loved everyone I work with. But this is something else.
Speaker 1: This is when this is a lifelong, very deep, very yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe it's the magic of the comics
Speaker 1: and maybe match Adman's casting that he's put us together,
Speaker 1: matcha my favorite thing in the world, as Matcher and
Speaker 1: he just they're always on ex I spill it all
Speaker 1: over them all time.
Speaker 5: But anyway, but yeah, I think it's for me.
Speaker 1: The surreal moment is going into something that has this
Speaker 1: bigger fan base, okay, this bigger fan base, and that
Speaker 1: has so much love for it already, and we don't
Speaker 1: have to pretend. We don't pretend that we liked the experience,
Speaker 1: we liked each other.
Speaker 5: We are families, we actually are.
Speaker 1: And now we're in Sydney, around the world with you
Speaker 1: again saying here going oh my god, we're really lucky.
Speaker 1: And that is a huge pinching moment because I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it for granted, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to waste a second of it.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, it has been so beautiful to watch the
Speaker 4: roll out of this movie and just being there with
Speaker 4: all the fans last night and seeing everyone cheering and crying,
Speaker 4: and I love that we've got more weeks of that
Speaker 4: to come as the movie rails and rolls out. So
Speaker 4: thank you both so much for your time, so lovely
Speaker 4: to see you, and thank you so much. I know
Speaker 4: that's a kind of a quick ending there, but I
Speaker 4: can at stress enough how much I was getting wrapped up.
Speaker 2: I went slightly over.
Speaker 3: They were crying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Again, I know it's a podcast, so you can't really
Speaker 4: see exactly what's happening, but we have put the full
Speaker 4: interview up on the Mummy YouTube channel, and we've put
Speaker 4: the clips up on our socials, so on the Spill
Speaker 4: podcast on Instagram, now on TikTok, And yeah, Vanessa started
Speaker 4: really welling up. Her eyes were so red, her mouth,
Speaker 4: you know how like you're trying to cry, your mouth
Speaker 4: is shaking a bit. And Pedro I could see behind
Speaker 4: his glasses as he was talking like his eyes were
Speaker 4: welling up.
Speaker 3: You can't they in the video. But then he takes
Speaker 3: his glasses off and wipes tears away.
Speaker 2: And he puts his head down and wipes tears away.
Speaker 4: And that's when, if you're listening back to that audio,
Speaker 4: when Vanessa goes, are you okay, Like she stops talking
Speaker 4: because she's like, he's crying, and you look at me
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, I'm crying.
Speaker 2: It was a lot.
Speaker 3: And then I can't believe she remembers you, And.
Speaker 4: That to me was well, so yeah, I'll set the
Speaker 4: story for that I should say I meant to ask
Speaker 4: that question to both of them, that little side thing
Speaker 4: of me being like, I've met you before. I did
Speaker 4: not think that was twenty seventeen. I did not think
Speaker 4: she was gonna remember, so I thought I was gonna
Speaker 4: ask that question to her and Pedro and I had
Speaker 4: a whole lead up for Pedro planned as well. But
Speaker 4: they just really ran with it and they were crying
Speaker 4: and then our time was up. So I think that
Speaker 4: was also better. But yes, in twenty to seventeen, Vanessa
Speaker 4: came to Australia for The Crown. She was playing Princess Margaret.
Speaker 4: It was a huge breakout role. The Crown was a
Speaker 4: huge show.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she came into the old Mamer office, so
Speaker 2: not the one we were in before we moved to
Speaker 2: this one, the one.
Speaker 4: Who before that, the office we met in. Yes, and
Speaker 4: I wasn't really doing here. I meant cute happened there too,
Speaker 4: so many memories in that building. Vanessa Kobe came into
Speaker 4: the office and was there for like nearly three hours.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. She came in.
Speaker 4: She and I hosted a Facebook live together. Remember that
Speaker 4: was the thing we did a Facebook live. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I remember we did a Facebook live every day because
Speaker 4: that's what the platform needed.
Speaker 3: God, how are we not going and were only are scary?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it was every day and again live we
Speaker 4: did one and so I hosted this one with her
Speaker 4: and I was barely even working in entertainment then. It
Speaker 4: was I think they just anyway they seen someone who
Speaker 4: could talk, and I was like this girl, and so
Speaker 4: she came in.
Speaker 2: We went to a Facebook life for like them. We
Speaker 2: met me five minutes.
Speaker 4: We went for nearly half an hour on that Facebook
Speaker 4: Life because we could not stop talking, the two of us,
Speaker 4: which like And then she had a lunch break and
Speaker 4: so she had in our office and so we hung
Speaker 4: out in her lunch break and like her hair and
Speaker 4: makeup team were doing like a hair and makeup or
Speaker 4: we're chatting, and then we went into that little like
Speaker 4: shed thing that we used to have in the office.
Speaker 2: Again, I can't believe we put.
Speaker 3: You had a celebrity guest in the shed.
Speaker 2: I know, but like we were so new at doing.
Speaker 3: Podcasting and stuff, and we just the shed knew better.
Speaker 3: It was like very glam and yeah, and so.
Speaker 4: She and I went there, we did a pod and
Speaker 4: we just we just really had like the most in
Speaker 4: had the interesting chat and that really stayed with me.
Speaker 4: And then that night Netflix through like a little party
Speaker 4: for her, and so I went to that with like
Speaker 4: a few other journals and she was so fun. She
Speaker 4: was like at the bar, just like chugging drinks with
Speaker 4: us and chatting. And I always remember that day and
Speaker 4: that like all that time we spent together, but I
Speaker 4: didn't think she'd remember. And it was actually quite emotional
Speaker 4: because I mean, they're crying in the interview and then
Speaker 4: it's over and we stand up, and as I stand up,
Speaker 4: Vanessa Kirby stands up, and we could have had this beautiful,
Speaker 4: seamless moment. But do you think in that moment, I
Speaker 4: remember the freaking microphone. I smashed my head on it.
Speaker 2: And she's like, are you okay.
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm fine, and then she then Vanessa Kobe
Speaker 4: leaned over and hugged me and she said, it is
Speaker 4: so lovely to see you again. I so remember that day,
Speaker 4: and I think I thought about it and then I
Speaker 4: said to her, it's so lovely to see you again
Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm gonna cry now. It's so
Speaker 4: lovely to see you again because I wasn't working in
Speaker 4: entertainment journalism when I had one mate, why am I crying?
Speaker 4: I hadn't worked in entertainment journalism. I was just starting
Speaker 4: to dip my toe at the time because I got
Speaker 4: hired at my mirror as the weekend editor to like
Speaker 4: be more news focused, and I just thought that was
Speaker 4: such a great experience, so ible to like watch your
Speaker 4: show and then talk to the person who's on it
Speaker 4: and get to like see the creativity and see what
Speaker 4: they did. And so I went into entertainment journalism full
Speaker 4: time after that, and so I was really nice to
Speaker 4: tell her that, and so we hugged and I told
Speaker 4: her that, and then I said to her, now I
Speaker 4: do this full time, and then we high fived, and
Speaker 4: then Pedro was like clapping for it.
Speaker 2: Was there. I'm still like my head's bleeding because I
Speaker 2: hit it on the mic and it was a little thing.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, Elves. It was so nice
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 4: And I walked out and one of the people who
Speaker 4: was traveling with them, like their head popists, was like,
Speaker 4: those are a good deal, and I was like, oh, thanks.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even say anything.
Speaker 2: And normally when you walk.
Speaker 4: Out of these things, you go and say goodbye to everyone,
Speaker 4: because like everyone in Sydney who works and media is there.
Speaker 4: I just grabbed my bag, I left and I went
Speaker 4: around the side at the hotel. There was staying into
Speaker 4: this like little alley wave that leads into the harbor,
Speaker 4: and I just.
Speaker 2: Like burst into deer because I think it was the
Speaker 2: build up and the whole day.
Speaker 4: It was the build up of everything. And then I
Speaker 4: stopped crying, I got no ruber and came to work.
Speaker 3: That interview was so like, it was so sure.
Speaker 2: I can't stress enough. How you literally have like five minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe we all just were like Vanessa, Kobe, Pedro,
Speaker 4: Pascal and I having this huge emotional moment in five minutes.
Speaker 3: It's insane that they like you moved them so much.
Speaker 3: You're with me like that whole interview is so well done,
Speaker 3: and I think you talking about what happened in twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen just like cemented her the idea for her that
Speaker 3: like where she was then compared to where she is now.
Speaker 4: I mean that's the only reason I brought it up,
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to be self indulgent. And again
Speaker 4: I didn't think she'd remember, but I just wanted to
Speaker 4: sort of say to her, remember when you just walked
Speaker 4: into her office on your first job, and you and
Speaker 4: I sat and like with the phone together, and she
Speaker 4: was really excited because she took this big job and
Speaker 4: she was like auditioning for other things that she hadn't
Speaker 4: got yet, and she was sort of saying to me,
Speaker 4: like I want to do this, and I want to
Speaker 4: do that and all this sort of stuff, and I
Speaker 4: was just like, look at you, like, look what you've done.
Speaker 4: It's incredible. So, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: If you want to watch like the whole interview and
Speaker 3: watch every thing, it is up on our YouTube channel
Speaker 3: on Mama Mia. We'll put a link in our show notes,
Speaker 3: and yes, like you said, we'll also put a link
Speaker 3: to all of our social media is that you can
Speaker 3: watch the videos because it is so so good.
Speaker 4: I know, I've got the photo of Innessa and I
Speaker 4: that we took off my phone. Maybe I'll put that
Speaker 4: up too, so you can see how beautifully we've aged.
Speaker 4: But yes, also, after all this, the movie is still
Speaker 4: coming out next week. The premier's still happening. We haven't
Speaker 4: even gone to the movie. Yeah, the Fantastic Four First
Speaker 4: Steps is coming out in cinemas in Australia on July
Speaker 4: twenty four.
Speaker 2: Make sure you see it. We're gonna go see it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be excited.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: Give you our.
Speaker 3: Thoughts and give us stick. Please, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: Bye bye, Lan