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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on.

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Speaker 3: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 3: culture Fixed. I'm and Venham and I'm Laura Brodnick. Back

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Speaker 3: together again, Back together again. I feel like I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen anyone like a year.

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Speaker 2: It has been two weeks because of our schedules and

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Speaker 2: our seat.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks for us as a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 4: And look, there were a lot of rumors out there

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Speaker 4: that we were fighting, but we're not. Guys. We ourselves started.

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Speaker 2: We started.

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Speaker 4: But we're back today for a very special event, which

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Speaker 4: is the fact that the cast of the Fantastic Four

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Speaker 4: first steps we're in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And we have those interviews coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 3: So something this week has been very exciting for US

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Speaker 3: Australians because we've been graced with the presence of four

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Speaker 3: major A listers. Gonna listen them out for you, four

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Speaker 3: superheroes if you four superhero A listens. So we have

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Speaker 3: Pedro Pascal, we have Vanessa Kirby, we have Joseph Quinn,

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Speaker 3: we have Eben Muss backrack and you might be wondering

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Speaker 3: what did these four individuals have in common? Well, as

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Speaker 3: a Marvel girlie, I'll tell you because they are starring

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Speaker 3: in the next brand new Marvel Universe Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Four movie, Fantastic Four First Steps. So excited.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen a girl so excited? Is this young

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Speaker 3: Okay? Because Fantastic Four have tried so so hard in

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Speaker 3: history and you know what, I'm a Fantastic Four lover girl.

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Speaker 3: I love Fantastic four so much and it's just been

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Speaker 3: getting shit on shit on shit, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, no movies back in the day with like Jessica

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Speaker 2: Evans, they weren't critically acclaimed amazing.

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Speaker 3: But Chris Evans is better as Captain in America.

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Speaker 2: I must say his moment he found the character, loved it.

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Speaker 3: The next one with Miles Teller and Michael B. Jordan

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Speaker 2: Can I just say?

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Speaker 4: The director says that the studio ruined it for him,

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Speaker 4: and I choose to believe that.

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Speaker 2: I want his cut.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean love the cast, but I feel like

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Speaker 3: they went on to do bigger and better thing. Absolutely

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Speaker 3: the Fantastic Four, This Fantastic four, And I don't want

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Speaker 3: any major spoilers because I actually haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 3: You've seen clips of it.

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Speaker 4: I say, I cannot spoil it because I also haven't

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Speaker 4: seen at some clips.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Marvel is wild with their security.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I think the promo for this

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Speaker 3: particular movie has been so so good, right from the trailer,

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Speaker 3: because we watched the trailer and I was like, why

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Speaker 3: And then we slowly realized that, oh, this Fantastic Four

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Speaker 3: of the comic books in the sixties, the traditional Fantastic

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Speaker 3: Four uniform. It looks so good. The cinematography looks brilliant.

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Speaker 3: And that's just from the trailer. Yeah, and you actually

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Speaker 4: And I haven't sort of seen this almost since maybe

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Speaker 4: Taylor swift Land in the straight because from the moment

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just all standing there so much. I was like,

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Speaker 3: The internet squareport for me to find Hugh Jackman's rude,

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Speaker 3: up from our airport. We could have been standing there

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Speaker 2: I was like, together, guys.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny. All I have to say is I'm

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, again from the Tailor Stift time you've been.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you still can barely get a booking there.

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Speaker 3: I now I recently went there, and that's because I

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Speaker 2: Celebrities cannot come to our favorite rest And I was.

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Speaker 3: Even more mad on top of that because I still

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Speaker 3: I don't even get to reap the benefits anyway about that.

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Speaker 3: But because I was so concerned about this, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I have to know everything that these four individuals have

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Speaker 3: done on their trip in Sydney. And one of the

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Speaker 3: they did the Bondaie to Cookie Walk, the Hot Girl

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Speaker 3: Walk if you will. Now I have things today, especially

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Speaker 3: Vanessa Kirby did the walk with her husband. Look, if

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Speaker 3: I was there in Bondai, I would have just passed

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Speaker 3: She had her little like black hotpants, she had a

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Speaker 3: out like all in black. She looked like a Bondie girl,

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Speaker 3: like doing a hot girl walk. She had a phone

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Speaker 3: Then we have Pedro Pascal, that poor sweet man. I

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Speaker 4: Side and he was going down to look at the

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Speaker 2: That's the outfit he had on.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, that's fair because I've had relatives

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Speaker 3: was like this massive hike. We thought we were going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you're if you're not from Sydney, like

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Speaker 2: It's not a hard hike or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Wh people say, are going for a hike and like,

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Speaker 4: a hike. But you do walk along some rocks, you

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Speaker 3: I don't think Pedro's team got the brim. He looks

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Speaker 4: I just say that's the shoes were not going to

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Speaker 2: There's no railing on one side.

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Speaker 3: With those shoes. You feel every single rock.

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Speaker 4: The imagine if Pedro Pascal International Treasure came to Sydney

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Speaker 3: If I was BONDI steps, he'd still be falling till

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Speaker 3: He's also wearing the whitest pants I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I know, you just know that those weren't nice by

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Speaker 4: Yes, he should be staring with slee at the ocean

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Speaker 3: Which kind of makes sense why Vanessa Kirby opted to

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Speaker 3: Allegedly it's Bondai. I do want to talk about all

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll be like, Hi, this amazing event happened last night.

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Speaker 4: Here's all the photos. We love you to run a piece.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what's worse than not inviting someone

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Speaker 3: Like here, hey, am, here's what you missed. Let me

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Speaker 3: it's not, I don't get to go. But the photo

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Speaker 3: single celebrity does. It's like the most iconic like celebrity

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Speaker 2: Because we know they have a group chat.

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Speaker 4: It's called Abba because they were trying to pick like

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Speaker 4: talk in the group chat because the thing about I

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Speaker 4: all visiting celebrities stay. And when like we the media

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Speaker 3: Wasn't firing Chad, No one was, nothing was happening in there.

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Speaker 4: They did press over two days, which is also usually

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, So Kate, tell me about the premiere.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was bananas.

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Speaker 3: It was wild because it's like we have different type

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Speaker 4: Yes, so they've been doing a few worldwide fan events.

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Speaker 4: The premiere is still coming, Like, we haven't even seen

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Speaker 2: I have nearly been killed many times before.

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Speaker 4: Really, yes, okay, I have been on that carpet with

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Speaker 3: For Thorough My good friend.

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Speaker 4: Because there's so many people They've lined up for hours

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Speaker 2: It felt like that.

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Speaker 3: I can think they also had Bridget Jones's diaries.

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Speaker 4: Yes, with the fans pushing it. So this particular one huge.

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Speaker 3: I know you are just strolling and walking in the cart.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was yet it was huge, so like

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Speaker 2: Like, what is it like?

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Speaker 4: Because people were breaking down, sobbing, people were screaming. It

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Speaker 4: Inside was just like no holds barred with the expense

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Speaker 4: And it was so interesting because there was three cinemas,

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Speaker 4: So when they came into our cinema, they like walked

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Speaker 2: I took it on the work phone.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Also, Emily just on that they're walking through

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Speaker 4: I tried to get content for the spillers. We posted

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Speaker 2: Well, I did what I could in the moment.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they got up and they went into every different

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Speaker 4: And then he had this beautiful white shirt that was

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Speaker 3: I probably would have passed out if he looked me

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Speaker 4: Did you see he came so close to the camera

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Speaker 4: We were so close our hands only touched, and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: No? So I got to the junket, which is when

435
00:18:23,024 --> 00:18:25,264
Speaker 4: they have visiting talents, this whole thing. Everyone's in this

436
00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:27,704
Speaker 4: fancy hotel. You've got to you know, check in. Then

437
00:18:27,704 --> 00:18:29,624
Speaker 4: you've got to go upstairs, and it's this whole thing

438
00:18:29,664 --> 00:18:31,304
Speaker 4: of like you wait in this room, then you wait

439
00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:32,784
Speaker 4: in this room, then you sit in the chair and

440
00:18:32,824 --> 00:18:34,664
Speaker 4: the person in the chair is the next one going in,

441
00:18:34,904 --> 00:18:36,984
Speaker 4: and you get timed from the moment you walk in

442
00:18:37,024 --> 00:18:39,584
Speaker 4: the door and it's very quick turnaround, so you have

443
00:18:40,024 --> 00:18:43,064
Speaker 4: a very short window of time. And for us it's

444
00:18:43,144 --> 00:18:45,584
Speaker 4: so nerve wracking because some journalists go when they're just

445
00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,784
Speaker 4: getting something for social but for us it's like we've

446
00:18:47,824 --> 00:18:50,304
Speaker 4: got to get enough for a podcast, articles social and

447
00:18:50,384 --> 00:18:54,584
Speaker 4: so it's a very intense experience. But my first interview

448
00:18:54,584 --> 00:18:56,784
Speaker 4: of the day was with Joseph and Evan who in

449
00:18:56,864 --> 00:19:00,264
Speaker 4: the film play Johnny Storm and The Thing. Yeah, and

450
00:19:00,304 --> 00:19:04,064
Speaker 4: obviously they come from very beloved fandoms from The Bear

451
00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:07,344
Speaker 4: and Strange Things, respectively, They've both obviously done so many

452
00:19:07,344 --> 00:19:09,904
Speaker 4: other like big blockbuster movies or TV shows, so they

453
00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:11,064
Speaker 4: have this huge fandom.

454
00:19:11,304 --> 00:19:13,264
Speaker 3: I have a question because I know you've seen like

455
00:19:13,384 --> 00:19:15,544
Speaker 3: little clips of the film.

456
00:19:15,624 --> 00:19:17,544
Speaker 4: Yeah, so at the screening, that's the thing. They can't

457
00:19:17,544 --> 00:19:19,864
Speaker 4: show the whole movie, so they showed twenty It was

458
00:19:19,864 --> 00:19:22,824
Speaker 4: actually nearly thirty minutes of just different clips from the movie.

459
00:19:23,264 --> 00:19:24,464
Speaker 4: It looks incredible.

460
00:19:24,544 --> 00:19:26,224
Speaker 3: Do you think we get a good amount of screen

461
00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:28,024
Speaker 3: time of Eben just looking like Eben?

462
00:19:28,344 --> 00:19:30,384
Speaker 4: Again, I haven't seen the movie, but they showed clips

463
00:19:30,384 --> 00:19:34,064
Speaker 4: of like the Fantastic Four when they're all astronauts going.

464
00:19:33,944 --> 00:19:35,784
Speaker 2: Up into space how they get their powers.

465
00:19:35,824 --> 00:19:38,184
Speaker 4: So I think you get some clips of him as Eben,

466
00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:39,784
Speaker 4: but you also get a lot of him and like

467
00:19:39,824 --> 00:19:42,384
Speaker 4: the full kind of rocks looking the thing. But they

468
00:19:42,464 --> 00:19:44,904
Speaker 4: chose him because they wanted that character because he's going

469
00:19:44,984 --> 00:19:46,824
Speaker 4: through a lot, like he's had this not just does

470
00:19:46,864 --> 00:19:48,264
Speaker 4: he have powers like the rest of the but he

471
00:19:48,304 --> 00:19:51,104
Speaker 4: has this huge physical transformation and he's the only one

472
00:19:51,104 --> 00:19:53,664
Speaker 4: of the Fantastic Four who can't kind of blend into.

473
00:19:53,464 --> 00:19:55,104
Speaker 2: Society with his powers.

474
00:19:55,144 --> 00:19:57,664
Speaker 4: Every time he steps outside, it's like that's him, And

475
00:19:57,744 --> 00:20:00,064
Speaker 4: so they wanted a character that could convey a lot

476
00:20:00,064 --> 00:20:02,784
Speaker 4: of emotion through the special effects, which is why they

477
00:20:02,784 --> 00:20:03,784
Speaker 4: picked Eben, and I think.

478
00:20:03,704 --> 00:20:05,984
Speaker 3: He does a really good job of him. I'm so excited.

479
00:20:06,224 --> 00:20:10,304
Speaker 3: So you interviewed first, Joseph and Eben. This is the interview.

480
00:20:10,504 --> 00:20:11,664
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to listen.

481
00:20:12,304 --> 00:20:14,144
Speaker 4: Well, it is so lovely to meet you both, and

482
00:20:14,184 --> 00:20:16,384
Speaker 4: there's so much excitement for this film, and I wanted

483
00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,424
Speaker 4: to start by asking you both. I think there's a

484
00:20:18,424 --> 00:20:20,904
Speaker 4: bit of a misconception that sometimes people come to these

485
00:20:20,944 --> 00:20:23,584
Speaker 4: movies because they want to see the action sequences or

486
00:20:23,584 --> 00:20:26,424
Speaker 4: the stunts. But real fans know we come because we're

487
00:20:26,464 --> 00:20:28,384
Speaker 4: so invested in the characters and we need to care

488
00:20:28,424 --> 00:20:30,504
Speaker 4: about them. So I wanted to ask you both, what

489
00:20:30,584 --> 00:20:32,784
Speaker 4: is the most compelling thing about your characters in the

490
00:20:32,824 --> 00:20:35,784
Speaker 4: movie that is separate to the superhero powers that they have.

491
00:20:36,184 --> 00:20:38,904
Speaker 6: I think there's something quite aspirational about Johnny. There's the

492
00:20:39,144 --> 00:20:41,944
Speaker 6: kind of longing that he has a fascination that he

493
00:20:41,944 --> 00:20:44,904
Speaker 6: has with space, of like maybe looking for answers in

494
00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:49,464
Speaker 6: some way. I think he's very kind and loyal, and

495
00:20:49,464 --> 00:20:52,224
Speaker 6: I think that that loyalty is shine in the film.

496
00:20:52,304 --> 00:20:53,984
Speaker 6: He's a bit of a searcher, isn't he Yeah? I

497
00:20:53,984 --> 00:20:54,304
Speaker 6: think so.

498
00:20:54,584 --> 00:20:55,384
Speaker 7: Yeah.

499
00:20:55,864 --> 00:20:56,464
Speaker 6: I love Ben.

500
00:20:56,584 --> 00:20:56,784
Speaker 5: Yeah.

501
00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:56,944
Speaker 1: Ben.

502
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Speaker 7: Also again, like loyalty is something that I've really sort

503
00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:02,504
Speaker 7: of latched on doing with him. I don't know so

504
00:21:02,704 --> 00:21:06,824
Speaker 7: much of his internal state is because of what's happened

505
00:21:06,824 --> 00:21:09,104
Speaker 7: to him, so it's hard to separate those things out.

506
00:21:09,184 --> 00:21:12,144
Speaker 7: But yeah, a patience there, I think.

507
00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:13,624
Speaker 2: Oh, that's lovely.

508
00:21:13,664 --> 00:21:15,744
Speaker 4: And also something we see with your character that we've

509
00:21:15,744 --> 00:21:17,744
Speaker 4: seen from the fan snippers that have been released is

510
00:21:18,024 --> 00:21:19,744
Speaker 4: he has a bit of a love story and we're

511
00:21:19,744 --> 00:21:21,384
Speaker 4: getting to see that side of his life. Can you

512
00:21:21,384 --> 00:21:23,504
Speaker 4: give us a little sneak peak of how that's going

513
00:21:23,504 --> 00:21:28,704
Speaker 4: to unfold in the movie? No? Oh, okay, well I

514
00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:32,184
Speaker 4: thought I shoot my shot because that from the fan

515
00:21:32,264 --> 00:21:32,984
Speaker 4: screening last.

516
00:21:32,904 --> 00:21:34,344
Speaker 2: Night, that was one of the biggest cheers that came

517
00:21:34,384 --> 00:21:36,264
Speaker 2: up for the audience. Really, it was my duty to.

518
00:21:36,224 --> 00:21:37,424
Speaker 5: Ask you, oh, that's.

519
00:21:39,744 --> 00:21:40,584
Speaker 7: My guard was going to be?

520
00:21:40,984 --> 00:21:41,784
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.

521
00:21:42,264 --> 00:21:43,704
Speaker 7: I've been through some rigorous medium.

522
00:21:45,024 --> 00:21:46,264
Speaker 2: You're a vault, I understand.

523
00:21:47,224 --> 00:21:49,504
Speaker 4: And speaking about the fan event last night, which was

524
00:21:49,664 --> 00:21:52,344
Speaker 4: the energy there was just incredible, and I was talking

525
00:21:52,344 --> 00:21:53,784
Speaker 4: to some of the people, some of them had lined

526
00:21:53,824 --> 00:21:56,544
Speaker 4: up for thirty hours to see you come down the carpet.

527
00:21:56,904 --> 00:21:59,344
Speaker 4: They had traveled into state, taken time off work, or

528
00:21:59,424 --> 00:22:02,224
Speaker 4: quite emotional seeing you and I know you've both spoken

529
00:22:02,264 --> 00:22:04,544
Speaker 4: about how grateful you are for the fandom of this movie.

530
00:22:04,624 --> 00:22:07,664
Speaker 4: But what is that moment like when you're interacting with people,

531
00:22:07,784 --> 00:22:09,904
Speaker 4: is there a sense of sort of responsibility to give

532
00:22:09,944 --> 00:22:11,584
Speaker 4: them that moment that they've built up?

533
00:22:12,464 --> 00:22:17,144
Speaker 6: So, I mean there's certainly a feeling of there's a

534
00:22:17,184 --> 00:22:21,064
Speaker 6: reverence for their time and a gratitude for their support

535
00:22:21,744 --> 00:22:24,864
Speaker 6: for the film. You're just mindful of that. You've got

536
00:22:24,904 --> 00:22:31,464
Speaker 6: to be careful with people's enthusiasm and their investment. You know,

537
00:22:31,824 --> 00:22:34,024
Speaker 6: we spent a lot of time hanging out with everyone

538
00:22:34,064 --> 00:22:37,024
Speaker 6: last night and like signing stuff, and that's that's lovely.

539
00:22:37,224 --> 00:22:40,344
Speaker 6: But I think more than having a responsibility to look

540
00:22:40,424 --> 00:22:44,344
Speaker 6: after that moment, I suppose, Yeah, that's a very non answer.

541
00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:46,184
Speaker 7: I feel responsibility one hundred percent.

542
00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:46,824
Speaker 5: I feel like this.

543
00:22:47,024 --> 00:22:49,304
Speaker 7: You know, I don't take that ad rage that. I

544
00:22:49,304 --> 00:22:51,824
Speaker 7: don't take any of that that personally, that's not about me.

545
00:22:52,264 --> 00:22:55,584
Speaker 7: That's about this family of this Marvel's first family that's

546
00:22:55,584 --> 00:22:58,584
Speaker 7: been around since nineteen sixty one, and people have this

547
00:22:58,744 --> 00:23:01,704
Speaker 7: relationship to that and this excitement about seeing us do

548
00:23:01,824 --> 00:23:04,984
Speaker 7: this thing, and I feel like I honor that moment

549
00:23:05,464 --> 00:23:08,864
Speaker 7: so much, and I try to meet the fans there

550
00:23:08,904 --> 00:23:10,784
Speaker 7: and sort of join hands with them and on my

551
00:23:10,864 --> 00:23:13,744
Speaker 7: own sort of like excitement about sharing this thing, you know.

552
00:23:13,824 --> 00:23:15,344
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that very much was the vibe

553
00:23:15,424 --> 00:23:15,744
Speaker 2: last night.

554
00:23:15,784 --> 00:23:18,064
Speaker 4: People seemed very grateful for your time, and I think

555
00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:19,984
Speaker 4: people are also just loving seeing the four of you

556
00:23:20,064 --> 00:23:22,624
Speaker 4: interacted these press events and at these premieres. And I

557
00:23:22,664 --> 00:23:25,104
Speaker 4: know how closely you've worked together behind the scenes bringing

558
00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:27,624
Speaker 4: this story to life, and so in that what is

559
00:23:27,704 --> 00:23:30,224
Speaker 4: most interesting or surprising thing that you learned about each

560
00:23:30,264 --> 00:23:33,224
Speaker 4: other when working on this project and spending all those

561
00:23:33,264 --> 00:23:33,984
Speaker 4: long days.

562
00:23:33,744 --> 00:23:35,584
Speaker 2: On set was interesting.

563
00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:41,704
Speaker 6: I learned about Evans's taste, is how he's very spar

564
00:23:41,984 --> 00:23:45,184
Speaker 6: and very well read. I trust his opinion on matters

565
00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:48,384
Speaker 6: of art, cuisine and things like that.

566
00:23:48,464 --> 00:23:50,704
Speaker 5: So yeah, I really lovely.

567
00:23:51,064 --> 00:23:52,784
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what Sobri, I mean, I feel

568
00:23:52,824 --> 00:23:54,624
Speaker 7: like I know Do so well at this point. You know,

569
00:23:54,704 --> 00:23:56,504
Speaker 7: it's just like he's really I feel like I've known

570
00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,224
Speaker 7: him forever, So I don't know, like do all. This

571
00:23:58,264 --> 00:24:01,784
Speaker 7: guy's such a deeply talented character and you know, such

572
00:24:01,784 --> 00:24:03,504
Speaker 7: a lovely person they get to hang out with.

573
00:24:03,704 --> 00:24:05,504
Speaker 4: Pedre was telling everyone one last night that you were

574
00:24:05,584 --> 00:24:07,904
Speaker 4: quite the chaos demon. He was saying behind the set

575
00:24:07,984 --> 00:24:09,624
Speaker 4: and then set it on stage. Should you had a

576
00:24:09,664 --> 00:24:10,664
Speaker 4: comment on that.

577
00:24:10,704 --> 00:24:12,904
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you point a finger at somebody, you got

578
00:24:12,944 --> 00:24:14,384
Speaker 7: three fingers pointed back at yoursel.

579
00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:17,584
Speaker 4: Okay, I will ask him about that, Go and talk

580
00:24:17,584 --> 00:24:19,664
Speaker 4: to him now. Well, thank you both so much for

581
00:24:19,704 --> 00:24:21,224
Speaker 4: your time, so lovely to meet you, and I'm so

582
00:24:21,304 --> 00:24:26,264
Speaker 4: sad to see the movie. Guys, I just need to

583
00:24:26,304 --> 00:24:28,664
Speaker 4: Emily watch that interview just then for the first time,

584
00:24:29,184 --> 00:24:31,304
Speaker 4: and she just made a gun with her finger and

585
00:24:31,384 --> 00:24:33,864
Speaker 4: looked down at it with such a confused face.

586
00:24:33,904 --> 00:24:36,144
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were doing. This is a podcast.

587
00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,504
Speaker 2: You have to tell them what you just did.

588
00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:41,704
Speaker 3: When then said, when you point a finger at somebody,

589
00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:44,464
Speaker 3: you have three pointer back at yourself. I didn't understand that.

590
00:24:44,504 --> 00:24:44,624
Speaker 1: Man.

591
00:24:45,144 --> 00:24:47,264
Speaker 4: Physically, you just made your hand into a little gun

592
00:24:47,304 --> 00:24:49,624
Speaker 4: and you looked down. Yeah, because three fingers point back at.

593
00:24:49,624 --> 00:24:51,544
Speaker 3: You for your thumb pointing to the God.

594
00:24:52,384 --> 00:24:54,504
Speaker 2: Yeah, the funniest thing.

595
00:24:54,584 --> 00:24:57,184
Speaker 4: So then I know that that sounded like inhectic in

596
00:24:57,184 --> 00:24:58,984
Speaker 4: a way that I'm talking quite fast, even though I

597
00:24:58,984 --> 00:25:01,064
Speaker 4: do all the time, and it's quick, but you have

598
00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:04,104
Speaker 4: such a limited time with them, and there's so many

599
00:25:04,184 --> 00:25:07,264
Speaker 4: no go areas about all of their personal life, which

600
00:25:07,304 --> 00:25:09,944
Speaker 4: obviously but also about the movie. And that's why a

601
00:25:09,944 --> 00:25:12,184
Speaker 4: lot of mone interviews, or rather with all of the

602
00:25:12,264 --> 00:25:15,824
Speaker 4: cast over like the decades that they've been making these movies,

603
00:25:15,864 --> 00:25:18,224
Speaker 4: are either very erratic and they're talking crazy, or they're

604
00:25:18,224 --> 00:25:21,504
Speaker 4: being very subdued because they're just not allowed to say anything. Yeah,

605
00:25:21,504 --> 00:25:23,144
Speaker 4: but it was so funny because when you go into

606
00:25:23,184 --> 00:25:26,624
Speaker 4: these rooms, it's this whole big set where the talents

607
00:25:26,624 --> 00:25:28,584
Speaker 4: sitting up on a stand and you walk up and

608
00:25:28,624 --> 00:25:30,864
Speaker 4: you sit on the chair opposite them. All these lights

609
00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:33,064
Speaker 4: and cameras and things, and then you go down behind

610
00:25:33,464 --> 00:25:35,824
Speaker 4: the partition and you have to wait for a few

611
00:25:35,864 --> 00:25:38,464
Speaker 4: seconds after your interview's finished, but you're out of sight

612
00:25:38,504 --> 00:25:41,304
Speaker 4: from the talent to have the film crew hand you

613
00:25:41,424 --> 00:25:43,984
Speaker 4: the tapes with your interview. So I'm staying there waiting

614
00:25:44,024 --> 00:25:46,704
Speaker 4: to get my tapes, and I hear Evan go Chao Steamen,

615
00:25:47,184 --> 00:25:50,544
Speaker 4: Chao Stemen Pedro called me a Chao Steamen, and he's

616
00:25:50,584 --> 00:25:52,664
Speaker 4: so shocked, and I wanted to yell back. I wanted

617
00:25:52,704 --> 00:25:54,424
Speaker 4: to stick my head back around the petition and say

618
00:25:54,664 --> 00:25:56,744
Speaker 4: he said it on stage when you were there. The

619
00:25:56,784 --> 00:25:59,944
Speaker 4: clips are everywhere saying it behind your back.

620
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,704
Speaker 3: What was really funny about those interviews is that your

621
00:26:02,784 --> 00:26:04,704
Speaker 3: questions were so so good.

622
00:26:04,744 --> 00:26:05,344
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.

623
00:26:05,624 --> 00:26:08,104
Speaker 3: It's so stressful because you have literally it really took

624
00:26:08,144 --> 00:26:10,104
Speaker 3: them by surprise, like some of them, like some of

625
00:26:10,104 --> 00:26:12,544
Speaker 3: them were like yeah, they were like oh, I didn't

626
00:26:12,544 --> 00:26:14,944
Speaker 3: even think of that, or like yeah, and I know,

627
00:26:15,024 --> 00:26:17,144
Speaker 3: like in that moment, you're on a time limit. And

628
00:26:17,144 --> 00:26:18,704
Speaker 3: every time they kept pausing, I.

629
00:26:18,624 --> 00:26:20,704
Speaker 2: Was like, come on, is it. I'm like, yeah, I nearly.

630
00:26:20,744 --> 00:26:22,224
Speaker 2: You can see my hand tapping on my leg a

631
00:26:22,224 --> 00:26:22,464
Speaker 2: bit of the.

632
00:26:22,504 --> 00:26:24,944
Speaker 4: Video because I'm like, boys, step it up, got.

633
00:26:24,824 --> 00:26:25,704
Speaker 2: Two minutes, lego.

634
00:26:28,024 --> 00:26:31,304
Speaker 4: But I should say maybe they sound a little stand

635
00:26:31,304 --> 00:26:33,864
Speaker 4: offish in the clip there because they're very kind of

636
00:26:33,904 --> 00:26:34,584
Speaker 4: low spoken.

637
00:26:34,624 --> 00:26:36,664
Speaker 2: Man, they're a bit graft. They're both looking down a lot.

638
00:26:36,904 --> 00:26:39,024
Speaker 2: I should say. When I walked into the room, they

639
00:26:39,024 --> 00:26:39,824
Speaker 2: both stood.

640
00:26:39,664 --> 00:26:42,984
Speaker 4: Up and shook my hand and Evan's like, nice to

641
00:26:42,984 --> 00:26:44,584
Speaker 4: meet you, eb and Droves like, hello, is so nice

642
00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:44,864
Speaker 4: to meet you.

643
00:26:44,944 --> 00:26:45,504
Speaker 2: I'm Joseph.

644
00:26:45,544 --> 00:26:47,584
Speaker 4: So that is really nice because a lot of celebrities

645
00:26:47,584 --> 00:26:49,304
Speaker 4: don't even do that, like they're walking, they'll be like

646
00:26:49,344 --> 00:26:51,264
Speaker 4: they won't even look at you until the camera starts.

647
00:26:51,664 --> 00:26:53,824
Speaker 4: So I sometimes think that moment of like looking in

648
00:26:53,864 --> 00:26:56,584
Speaker 4: the eye, shaking hands, like we're both human beings, we're

649
00:26:56,624 --> 00:26:58,504
Speaker 4: both at work, which is what I also find when

650
00:26:58,504 --> 00:27:00,544
Speaker 4: celebrities treat you bad, I'm like I'm at work.

651
00:27:02,144 --> 00:27:04,824
Speaker 3: Also, Joseph could be going through something we've seen photo

652
00:27:04,944 --> 00:27:08,064
Speaker 3: a Doja Cat with her new don't bring that, so

653
00:27:08,984 --> 00:27:11,384
Speaker 3: you never know the people too.

654
00:27:11,704 --> 00:27:14,624
Speaker 4: Also, I think he's often like Joseph especially skews more

655
00:27:14,624 --> 00:27:16,464
Speaker 4: to being like I'm a serious actor kind of life.

656
00:27:16,704 --> 00:27:18,544
Speaker 4: So I think the questions he liked the most. I

657
00:27:18,544 --> 00:27:19,664
Speaker 4: saw his eyes kind of change.

658
00:27:19,744 --> 00:27:20,144
Speaker 2: All of his.

659
00:27:20,144 --> 00:27:22,824
Speaker 3: Interviews, even with casts and stuff, are or like he

660
00:27:22,864 --> 00:27:25,064
Speaker 3: comes across it's a sensitive boy.

661
00:27:25,984 --> 00:27:26,424
Speaker 2: He did that.

662
00:27:26,504 --> 00:27:28,064
Speaker 4: And then I walked out of one room and I

663
00:27:28,144 --> 00:27:32,064
Speaker 4: walked straight into the next room, which contained Vanessa Kirby

664
00:27:32,264 --> 00:27:37,344
Speaker 4: and Pedro Pascal and so I walked into the room.

665
00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:41,224
Speaker 4: They're sitting up on a platform. I walk over to them.

666
00:27:41,384 --> 00:27:44,104
Speaker 4: They're both super lovely. As I walk into the room,

667
00:27:44,424 --> 00:27:48,064
Speaker 4: they're sitting together on these chairs and Pedro's arm is

668
00:27:48,184 --> 00:27:51,904
Speaker 4: wrapped around Vanessa and pretty much stayed there. I know

669
00:27:51,984 --> 00:27:55,064
Speaker 4: she's living the dream. She's a beautiful, talented movie star,

670
00:27:55,544 --> 00:27:58,664
Speaker 4: and Pedro Pascal is obsessed with her.

671
00:27:59,064 --> 00:28:01,264
Speaker 3: And I also think he's obsessed with like every single

672
00:28:01,264 --> 00:28:02,024
Speaker 3: person he works with.

673
00:28:02,144 --> 00:28:04,344
Speaker 4: Oh no, I know, but I think this is particularly,

674
00:28:04,504 --> 00:28:06,864
Speaker 4: like this bond is particular. And I also know he

675
00:28:06,904 --> 00:28:09,224
Speaker 4: says he sometimes like because he gets nervous and interviews,

676
00:28:09,264 --> 00:28:11,744
Speaker 4: he sometimes likes to be like holding or touching his

677
00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:13,624
Speaker 4: co star if he's close with them, because it gives

678
00:28:13,664 --> 00:28:16,024
Speaker 4: him a sense of like like an anchor in the moment,

679
00:28:16,064 --> 00:28:18,584
Speaker 4: which I get. And I feel like he was very chatty.

680
00:28:18,584 --> 00:28:21,104
Speaker 4: But I've gotta say Pedro Pascal a shy, sensitive man,

681
00:28:21,464 --> 00:28:23,184
Speaker 4: and I almost kind of relate in a way because

682
00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:25,664
Speaker 4: I feel like he's in his element walking down the

683
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:28,984
Speaker 4: red carpet and seeing all the fans and waving and smiling,

684
00:28:28,984 --> 00:28:31,384
Speaker 4: because it's like he's performing to the masses and he's

685
00:28:31,424 --> 00:28:34,704
Speaker 4: quite removed. But I sometimes feel like sometimes in an

686
00:28:34,704 --> 00:28:37,424
Speaker 4: interview with a smaller setting, he can kind of come

687
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,904
Speaker 4: across like quite nervous, and I did feel that in

688
00:28:39,904 --> 00:28:42,304
Speaker 4: the moment, so he was holding onto Vanessa.

689
00:28:42,384 --> 00:28:44,984
Speaker 3: He's spoken about how he does have like social anxiety

690
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,864
Speaker 3: and like crowds and stuff like that. So if you

691
00:28:46,904 --> 00:28:49,264
Speaker 3: do see him on red carpets or even in like

692
00:28:49,304 --> 00:28:52,904
Speaker 3: those big like stage productions and stuff, if he has

693
00:28:52,904 --> 00:28:55,784
Speaker 3: a female coast near him, he'll always be holding them. Yeah,

694
00:28:55,864 --> 00:28:57,944
Speaker 3: and I think they know, Like there's been so many

695
00:28:57,944 --> 00:29:01,104
Speaker 3: times where you see them also like grab his hand,

696
00:29:01,144 --> 00:29:03,744
Speaker 3: Like there's this video of Vanessa Kirby where they're on

697
00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:05,824
Speaker 3: a red carpet and she like takes his hand out

698
00:29:05,864 --> 00:29:08,424
Speaker 3: of his pocket and like holds it. Yeah, And I

699
00:29:08,464 --> 00:29:10,824
Speaker 3: think it's just it's such a nice to do for

700
00:29:10,864 --> 00:29:14,064
Speaker 3: someone when you know how they feel in those situations.

701
00:29:14,144 --> 00:29:16,704
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So it's the whole thing. So he's holding

702
00:29:16,784 --> 00:29:18,664
Speaker 4: on to her. They both say hello to me and

703
00:29:18,664 --> 00:29:21,304
Speaker 4: shake my hand. Yes, this hand has touched Pedro Pascal.

704
00:29:21,504 --> 00:29:23,864
Speaker 2: I have not washed it. I have I sanitized it

705
00:29:23,864 --> 00:29:25,904
Speaker 2: all the time, but my spirit it's there.

706
00:29:26,344 --> 00:29:28,424
Speaker 4: Can I tell you one thing that makes all of

707
00:29:28,464 --> 00:29:31,104
Speaker 4: this just so awkward for me personally, Like it looks

708
00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:33,664
Speaker 4: so glam from the outside, but again, you're up on

709
00:29:33,704 --> 00:29:36,024
Speaker 4: this raised platform, so the talent sit there and you

710
00:29:36,064 --> 00:29:37,984
Speaker 4: have to walk up these little rickety stairs onto this

711
00:29:38,064 --> 00:29:42,224
Speaker 4: platform and sit in your chair for a normal sized human. Lovely,

712
00:29:42,704 --> 00:29:45,704
Speaker 4: wonderful you slip into the chair for me. Because I'm

713
00:29:45,744 --> 00:29:49,024
Speaker 4: so tall, they often have to move all the cameras

714
00:29:49,024 --> 00:29:51,784
Speaker 4: and mics, but that takes up my interview time, so

715
00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:55,064
Speaker 4: instead of gracefully sitting down, I have to do a

716
00:29:55,104 --> 00:29:57,544
Speaker 4: weird dip and bob which I've perfected over the years,

717
00:29:57,544 --> 00:29:59,224
Speaker 4: and the junkid setting, I have to do a high

718
00:29:59,304 --> 00:30:01,104
Speaker 4: nice to meet you, and then I have to do

719
00:30:01,184 --> 00:30:04,104
Speaker 4: this weird thing and plot myself in the camera and

720
00:30:04,104 --> 00:30:06,064
Speaker 4: then jerk my head back so that I don't hit

721
00:30:06,144 --> 00:30:09,304
Speaker 4: my head on the cameras. And so every interview starts

722
00:30:09,304 --> 00:30:12,344
Speaker 4: with me doing that. I said to them, and I

723
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:14,344
Speaker 4: say to everyone, I'm so sorry, tall girl problems, like

724
00:30:14,344 --> 00:30:16,464
Speaker 4: I just have to And Vanessa Koby, who's also very tall,

725
00:30:16,624 --> 00:30:18,104
Speaker 4: She's like, I get it, I get it, You're good.

726
00:30:18,824 --> 00:30:23,104
Speaker 2: And then we started the interview and it is emotional here.

727
00:30:23,144 --> 00:30:25,624
Speaker 2: It is so lovely to meet you both.

728
00:30:25,784 --> 00:30:28,504
Speaker 4: And I think something that we've really loved seeing from

729
00:30:28,584 --> 00:30:30,224
Speaker 4: the promotion of this movie and the press to her

730
00:30:30,384 --> 00:30:32,544
Speaker 4: is this BOMD that the whole cast has. So I

731
00:30:32,544 --> 00:30:34,704
Speaker 4: wanted to start by asking what was the most interesting

732
00:30:34,744 --> 00:30:36,624
Speaker 4: thing that you learned about each other on the long

733
00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:38,584
Speaker 4: days filming this movie.

734
00:30:39,264 --> 00:30:42,064
Speaker 5: You you hush, Oh.

735
00:30:41,984 --> 00:30:43,464
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to say something. This is

736
00:30:43,464 --> 00:30:46,984
Speaker 2: a safe space. Look, yes, I am a grump. No,

737
00:30:47,664 --> 00:30:48,224
Speaker 2: I'm a grump.

738
00:30:48,424 --> 00:30:53,624
Speaker 1: No, listen. The only reason version no, it doesn't if

739
00:30:53,664 --> 00:30:53,944
Speaker 1: I was.

740
00:30:54,144 --> 00:30:57,664
Speaker 8: The least grumpy on this on what this prestol no

741
00:30:57,984 --> 00:30:59,344
Speaker 8: on the movie.

742
00:31:00,384 --> 00:31:03,984
Speaker 2: Fantastical or no.

743
00:31:03,984 --> 00:31:04,064
Speaker 4: No.

744
00:31:04,264 --> 00:31:06,624
Speaker 1: The only reason I love is because he is. Look

745
00:31:06,624 --> 00:31:10,224
Speaker 1: at his smile. He doesn't stop smiling. He never stops smiling.

746
00:31:10,624 --> 00:31:12,664
Speaker 1: And about I would say six pm. If we go

747
00:31:12,664 --> 00:31:17,504
Speaker 1: into overtime, then he gets a little bit stupid. I'm

748
00:31:17,664 --> 00:31:21,384
Speaker 1: very cranky, but that's the last time.

749
00:31:21,424 --> 00:31:23,504
Speaker 5: And then it passes and then he faces.

750
00:31:23,664 --> 00:31:25,504
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna tell the tree, I'm gonna tell.

751
00:31:25,584 --> 00:31:28,424
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell the absolute truth here. We had to

752
00:31:28,464 --> 00:31:31,504
Speaker 8: do these like promo things. We were shooting all day long.

753
00:31:31,704 --> 00:31:34,144
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were doing this longer.

754
00:31:35,504 --> 00:31:38,424
Speaker 8: And and Joe and Vanessa they were popping off about

755
00:31:38,424 --> 00:31:40,744
Speaker 8: the fact that we were going to have to wear exhausted,

756
00:31:42,144 --> 00:31:44,424
Speaker 8: she's pregnant and the whole thing. And they get me

757
00:31:44,464 --> 00:31:46,704
Speaker 8: all worked up. They get me all worked up, and

758
00:31:46,784 --> 00:31:49,584
Speaker 8: my protective vibes get going, and then we and then

759
00:31:49,584 --> 00:31:51,184
Speaker 8: we and then we get my my shackles are up

760
00:31:51,184 --> 00:31:52,744
Speaker 8: and everything like that. And then we get there and

761
00:31:52,784 --> 00:31:54,744
Speaker 8: I'm ready to like make it just go as fast

762
00:31:54,784 --> 00:31:56,944
Speaker 8: as possible. And then the two of them are like, well,

763
00:31:56,944 --> 00:31:57,784
Speaker 8: why don't we try.

764
00:31:57,584 --> 00:31:59,384
Speaker 2: It like this? Or why don't we try it like that?

765
00:32:01,984 --> 00:32:04,144
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's talk about this a little bit longer.

766
00:32:04,224 --> 00:32:08,064
Speaker 5: And then heapy turtle.

767
00:32:09,664 --> 00:32:12,664
Speaker 2: You and you said, don't get snuffy with me. I

768
00:32:12,704 --> 00:32:13,224
Speaker 2: feel like I'm.

769
00:32:15,664 --> 00:32:18,464
Speaker 5: With my finger my finger like that.

770
00:32:18,624 --> 00:32:21,024
Speaker 4: Speaking in this interaction. Fans loved seeing you on the

771
00:32:21,024 --> 00:32:23,544
Speaker 4: red carpet the fan event last night. I was talking

772
00:32:23,544 --> 00:32:26,024
Speaker 4: to them someone people had been waiting for thirty hours

773
00:32:26,024 --> 00:32:28,824
Speaker 4: to see you. They traveled, they were bursting into tears

774
00:32:28,824 --> 00:32:29,544
Speaker 4: when they saw you.

775
00:32:29,584 --> 00:32:30,544
Speaker 2: What is that moment like?

776
00:32:30,584 --> 00:32:32,344
Speaker 4: And is there anyone in the industry that you've met

777
00:32:32,344 --> 00:32:34,544
Speaker 4: that you would have that reaction to, that you would

778
00:32:34,584 --> 00:32:35,544
Speaker 4: be that starstruck.

779
00:32:35,944 --> 00:32:37,344
Speaker 8: There are a couple of people that I don't think

780
00:32:37,384 --> 00:32:39,704
Speaker 8: i'd be able to. I wouldn't have been able to

781
00:32:39,744 --> 00:32:42,304
Speaker 8: have met. Yeah, I couldn't have met Tina Turner. I

782
00:32:42,344 --> 00:32:45,464
Speaker 8: couldn't have met I couldn't have no I couldn't have.

783
00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:47,064
Speaker 2: I would have. I would have, I wouldn't.

784
00:32:47,944 --> 00:32:48,264
Speaker 4: I don't know.

785
00:32:51,064 --> 00:32:55,064
Speaker 8: But there are certain people I made my religion. Yeah, yeah,

786
00:32:55,184 --> 00:32:57,624
Speaker 8: speech help it sort of an early imprint in life.

787
00:32:57,904 --> 00:32:59,344
Speaker 5: Yet be the King the other day, didn't you?

788
00:32:59,464 --> 00:32:59,824
Speaker 2: I did?

789
00:32:59,944 --> 00:33:01,824
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I love him.

790
00:33:02,304 --> 00:33:05,384
Speaker 1: Tell me the Spices girls for me when I was younger. Yeah,

791
00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:07,264
Speaker 1: if I had met the Spice girls, I don't know

792
00:33:07,304 --> 00:33:08,024
Speaker 1: what I would have done.

793
00:33:08,264 --> 00:33:10,664
Speaker 4: I met Melcy the other day and I couldn't say anything.

794
00:33:11,064 --> 00:33:13,304
Speaker 4: I'm still thinking about it. I understand still got.

795
00:33:13,184 --> 00:33:15,904
Speaker 5: This mythological amazing.

796
00:33:15,264 --> 00:33:17,264
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I want to ask you a bit of

797
00:33:17,264 --> 00:33:19,984
Speaker 4: both about the evolution of your careers, because Vanessa, when

798
00:33:20,024 --> 00:33:22,144
Speaker 4: you came to Australia in twenty seventeen, you were so

799
00:33:22,224 --> 00:33:23,064
Speaker 4: generous with your time.

800
00:33:23,104 --> 00:33:26,104
Speaker 2: You came into our office, remember exactly.

801
00:33:25,544 --> 00:33:28,344
Speaker 1: Do you really the white doors, Yes, the big full

802
00:33:28,384 --> 00:33:28,984
Speaker 1: white doors.

803
00:33:29,024 --> 00:33:31,504
Speaker 4: I was not expecting you to remember it so long ago.

804
00:33:31,504 --> 00:33:32,704
Speaker 4: You came into our office. You and I did a

805
00:33:32,704 --> 00:33:35,144
Speaker 4: Facebook live on a tiny camera on the tiny chairs.

806
00:33:35,184 --> 00:33:35,544
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

807
00:33:35,544 --> 00:33:37,584
Speaker 1: When you walked in, I went my brain went, oh,

808
00:33:37,984 --> 00:33:39,464
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't want to say in case you're

809
00:33:39,504 --> 00:33:40,904
Speaker 1: like no.

810
00:33:40,384 --> 00:33:43,864
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, no, I was remember, yes, yes, yes,

811
00:33:43,904 --> 00:33:46,984
Speaker 4: And months after that we called it the Vanessa Kirby Chair.

812
00:33:47,024 --> 00:33:49,904
Speaker 4: But I remember at the time you speaking about after

813
00:33:49,944 --> 00:33:52,224
Speaker 4: we did our podcast together, the stories that you wanted

814
00:33:52,224 --> 00:33:53,904
Speaker 4: to tell and the characters that you wanted to play

815
00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:55,704
Speaker 4: in your career. And now seeing you go from that

816
00:33:56,104 --> 00:33:58,384
Speaker 4: huge moment to this moment, what has been the kind

817
00:33:58,384 --> 00:34:01,264
Speaker 4: of most I guess surreal moment in your career that

818
00:34:01,304 --> 00:34:02,904
Speaker 4: you thought, I can't believe this is happening.

819
00:34:05,264 --> 00:34:09,144
Speaker 1: I actually think to do with this movie, the fact

820
00:34:09,184 --> 00:34:11,424
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here next to one of my favorite

821
00:34:11,464 --> 00:34:14,744
Speaker 1: people in my life. No, I actually get emotional thinking

822
00:34:14,744 --> 00:34:18,304
Speaker 1: about it because that is something that I had almost

823
00:34:18,864 --> 00:34:21,784
Speaker 1: Now I am actually welling up. I had accepted that

824
00:34:22,664 --> 00:34:24,504
Speaker 1: you're not always going to find your best best friends

825
00:34:24,504 --> 00:34:25,904
Speaker 1: on things, you know what I mean, Like you might

826
00:34:25,904 --> 00:34:27,864
Speaker 1: find it when you do theater when you were younger

827
00:34:27,904 --> 00:34:29,904
Speaker 1: and on the Crown, we definitely had that, and I've

828
00:34:30,064 --> 00:34:32,984
Speaker 1: loved everyone I work with. But this is something else.

829
00:34:33,064 --> 00:34:37,264
Speaker 1: This is when this is a lifelong, very deep, very yeah.

830
00:34:37,304 --> 00:34:39,064
Speaker 1: And I think maybe it's the magic of the comics

831
00:34:39,064 --> 00:34:41,464
Speaker 1: and maybe match Adman's casting that he's put us together,

832
00:34:43,904 --> 00:34:46,544
Speaker 1: matcha my favorite thing in the world, as Matcher and

833
00:34:46,544 --> 00:34:48,824
Speaker 1: he just they're always on ex I spill it all

834
00:34:48,824 --> 00:34:49,504
Speaker 1: over them all time.

835
00:34:50,224 --> 00:34:53,064
Speaker 5: But anyway, but yeah, I think it's for me.

836
00:34:53,344 --> 00:34:56,024
Speaker 1: The surreal moment is going into something that has this

837
00:34:56,104 --> 00:35:00,224
Speaker 1: bigger fan base, okay, this bigger fan base, and that

838
00:35:00,344 --> 00:35:04,384
Speaker 1: has so much love for it already, and we don't

839
00:35:04,384 --> 00:35:07,344
Speaker 1: have to pretend. We don't pretend that we liked the experience,

840
00:35:07,424 --> 00:35:08,184
Speaker 1: we liked each other.

841
00:35:08,264 --> 00:35:09,824
Speaker 5: We are families, we actually are.

842
00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:12,224
Speaker 1: And now we're in Sydney, around the world with you

843
00:35:12,304 --> 00:35:15,184
Speaker 1: again saying here going oh my god, we're really lucky.

844
00:35:15,264 --> 00:35:18,304
Speaker 1: And that is a huge pinching moment because I don't

845
00:35:18,304 --> 00:35:20,064
Speaker 1: want to say it for granted, and I don't want

846
00:35:20,064 --> 00:35:22,064
Speaker 1: to waste a second of it.

847
00:35:22,464 --> 00:35:24,224
Speaker 4: Yes, well, it has been so beautiful to watch the

848
00:35:24,304 --> 00:35:25,864
Speaker 4: roll out of this movie and just being there with

849
00:35:25,864 --> 00:35:28,464
Speaker 4: all the fans last night and seeing everyone cheering and crying,

850
00:35:28,504 --> 00:35:30,544
Speaker 4: and I love that we've got more weeks of that

851
00:35:30,624 --> 00:35:32,304
Speaker 4: to come as the movie rails and rolls out. So

852
00:35:32,504 --> 00:35:34,704
Speaker 4: thank you both so much for your time, so lovely

853
00:35:34,744 --> 00:35:37,184
Speaker 4: to see you, and thank you so much. I know

854
00:35:37,264 --> 00:35:38,584
Speaker 4: that's a kind of a quick ending there, but I

855
00:35:38,624 --> 00:35:40,544
Speaker 4: can at stress enough how much I was getting wrapped up.

856
00:35:40,544 --> 00:35:41,504
Speaker 2: I went slightly over.

857
00:35:41,984 --> 00:35:43,064
Speaker 3: They were crying.

858
00:35:43,504 --> 00:35:44,704
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly.

859
00:35:44,704 --> 00:35:46,904
Speaker 4: Again, I know it's a podcast, so you can't really

860
00:35:46,944 --> 00:35:49,104
Speaker 4: see exactly what's happening, but we have put the full

861
00:35:49,144 --> 00:35:51,744
Speaker 4: interview up on the Mummy YouTube channel, and we've put

862
00:35:51,744 --> 00:35:53,864
Speaker 4: the clips up on our socials, so on the Spill

863
00:35:53,904 --> 00:35:57,904
Speaker 4: podcast on Instagram, now on TikTok, And yeah, Vanessa started

864
00:35:57,944 --> 00:36:00,544
Speaker 4: really welling up. Her eyes were so red, her mouth,

865
00:36:00,584 --> 00:36:01,904
Speaker 4: you know how like you're trying to cry, your mouth

866
00:36:02,104 --> 00:36:05,344
Speaker 4: is shaking a bit. And Pedro I could see behind

867
00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:07,184
Speaker 4: his glasses as he was talking like his eyes were

868
00:36:07,224 --> 00:36:07,744
Speaker 4: welling up.

869
00:36:07,824 --> 00:36:09,744
Speaker 3: You can't they in the video. But then he takes

870
00:36:09,744 --> 00:36:11,664
Speaker 3: his glasses off and wipes tears away.

871
00:36:11,424 --> 00:36:13,464
Speaker 2: And he puts his head down and wipes tears away.

872
00:36:13,504 --> 00:36:15,584
Speaker 4: And that's when, if you're listening back to that audio,

873
00:36:15,624 --> 00:36:17,824
Speaker 4: when Vanessa goes, are you okay, Like she stops talking

874
00:36:17,824 --> 00:36:20,024
Speaker 4: because she's like, he's crying, and you look at me

875
00:36:20,064 --> 00:36:21,864
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, I'm crying.

876
00:36:22,264 --> 00:36:23,064
Speaker 2: It was a lot.

877
00:36:23,104 --> 00:36:25,424
Speaker 3: And then I can't believe she remembers you, And.

878
00:36:25,664 --> 00:36:27,504
Speaker 4: That to me was well, so yeah, I'll set the

879
00:36:27,544 --> 00:36:29,504
Speaker 4: story for that I should say I meant to ask

880
00:36:29,544 --> 00:36:31,784
Speaker 4: that question to both of them, that little side thing

881
00:36:31,824 --> 00:36:33,584
Speaker 4: of me being like, I've met you before. I did

882
00:36:33,624 --> 00:36:36,304
Speaker 4: not think that was twenty seventeen. I did not think

883
00:36:36,304 --> 00:36:38,184
Speaker 4: she was gonna remember, so I thought I was gonna

884
00:36:38,184 --> 00:36:39,864
Speaker 4: ask that question to her and Pedro and I had

885
00:36:39,904 --> 00:36:41,824
Speaker 4: a whole lead up for Pedro planned as well. But

886
00:36:41,864 --> 00:36:43,704
Speaker 4: they just really ran with it and they were crying

887
00:36:43,744 --> 00:36:45,104
Speaker 4: and then our time was up. So I think that

888
00:36:45,184 --> 00:36:48,504
Speaker 4: was also better. But yes, in twenty to seventeen, Vanessa

889
00:36:48,544 --> 00:36:51,224
Speaker 4: came to Australia for The Crown. She was playing Princess Margaret.

890
00:36:51,384 --> 00:36:53,784
Speaker 4: It was a huge breakout role. The Crown was a

891
00:36:53,864 --> 00:36:54,344
Speaker 4: huge show.

892
00:36:54,704 --> 00:36:56,704
Speaker 2: But yeah, she came into the old Mamer office, so

893
00:36:56,784 --> 00:36:57,984
Speaker 2: not the one we were in before we moved to

894
00:36:58,024 --> 00:36:58,624
Speaker 2: this one, the one.

895
00:36:58,504 --> 00:37:01,184
Speaker 4: Who before that, the office we met in. Yes, and

896
00:37:01,264 --> 00:37:03,904
Speaker 4: I wasn't really doing here. I meant cute happened there too,

897
00:37:04,184 --> 00:37:06,864
Speaker 4: so many memories in that building. Vanessa Kobe came into

898
00:37:06,904 --> 00:37:09,104
Speaker 4: the office and was there for like nearly three hours.

899
00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:10,304
Speaker 2: It was crazy. She came in.

900
00:37:10,704 --> 00:37:12,904
Speaker 4: She and I hosted a Facebook live together. Remember that

901
00:37:12,944 --> 00:37:14,824
Speaker 4: was the thing we did a Facebook live. Oh my god,

902
00:37:14,904 --> 00:37:18,064
Speaker 4: I remember we did a Facebook live every day because

903
00:37:18,064 --> 00:37:19,384
Speaker 4: that's what the platform needed.

904
00:37:19,544 --> 00:37:23,064
Speaker 3: God, how are we not going and were only are scary?

905
00:37:23,344 --> 00:37:25,384
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it was every day and again live we

906
00:37:25,384 --> 00:37:27,024
Speaker 4: did one and so I hosted this one with her

907
00:37:27,024 --> 00:37:29,184
Speaker 4: and I was barely even working in entertainment then. It

908
00:37:29,224 --> 00:37:30,944
Speaker 4: was I think they just anyway they seen someone who

909
00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:33,064
Speaker 4: could talk, and I was like this girl, and so

910
00:37:33,144 --> 00:37:33,544
Speaker 4: she came in.

911
00:37:33,584 --> 00:37:35,584
Speaker 2: We went to a Facebook life for like them. We

912
00:37:35,584 --> 00:37:36,504
Speaker 2: met me five minutes.

913
00:37:36,704 --> 00:37:39,064
Speaker 4: We went for nearly half an hour on that Facebook

914
00:37:39,104 --> 00:37:40,784
Speaker 4: Life because we could not stop talking, the two of us,

915
00:37:40,784 --> 00:37:43,624
Speaker 4: which like And then she had a lunch break and

916
00:37:43,664 --> 00:37:45,424
Speaker 4: so she had in our office and so we hung

917
00:37:45,464 --> 00:37:46,864
Speaker 4: out in her lunch break and like her hair and

918
00:37:46,864 --> 00:37:48,624
Speaker 4: makeup team were doing like a hair and makeup or

919
00:37:48,664 --> 00:37:51,344
Speaker 4: we're chatting, and then we went into that little like

920
00:37:51,544 --> 00:37:53,424
Speaker 4: shed thing that we used to have in the office.

921
00:37:53,544 --> 00:37:56,304
Speaker 2: Again, I can't believe we put.

922
00:37:55,784 --> 00:37:57,984
Speaker 3: You had a celebrity guest in the shed.

923
00:37:58,104 --> 00:38:00,064
Speaker 2: I know, but like we were so new at doing.

924
00:37:59,904 --> 00:38:04,264
Speaker 3: Podcasting and stuff, and we just the shed knew better.

925
00:38:04,544 --> 00:38:06,984
Speaker 3: It was like very glam and yeah, and so.

926
00:38:06,864 --> 00:38:08,224
Speaker 4: She and I went there, we did a pod and

927
00:38:08,264 --> 00:38:10,224
Speaker 4: we just we just really had like the most in

928
00:38:10,424 --> 00:38:13,064
Speaker 4: had the interesting chat and that really stayed with me.

929
00:38:13,144 --> 00:38:15,024
Speaker 4: And then that night Netflix through like a little party

930
00:38:15,064 --> 00:38:16,664
Speaker 4: for her, and so I went to that with like

931
00:38:16,664 --> 00:38:18,744
Speaker 4: a few other journals and she was so fun. She

932
00:38:18,824 --> 00:38:20,464
Speaker 4: was like at the bar, just like chugging drinks with

933
00:38:20,544 --> 00:38:23,304
Speaker 4: us and chatting. And I always remember that day and

934
00:38:23,304 --> 00:38:24,944
Speaker 4: that like all that time we spent together, but I

935
00:38:24,984 --> 00:38:28,144
Speaker 4: didn't think she'd remember. And it was actually quite emotional

936
00:38:28,184 --> 00:38:30,904
Speaker 4: because I mean, they're crying in the interview and then

937
00:38:30,944 --> 00:38:33,904
Speaker 4: it's over and we stand up, and as I stand up,

938
00:38:33,984 --> 00:38:37,624
Speaker 4: Vanessa Kirby stands up, and we could have had this beautiful,

939
00:38:37,744 --> 00:38:40,224
Speaker 4: seamless moment. But do you think in that moment, I

940
00:38:40,264 --> 00:38:43,024
Speaker 4: remember the freaking microphone. I smashed my head on it.

941
00:38:43,024 --> 00:38:43,824
Speaker 2: And she's like, are you okay.

942
00:38:43,824 --> 00:38:45,784
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm fine, and then she then Vanessa Kobe

943
00:38:45,904 --> 00:38:48,664
Speaker 4: leaned over and hugged me and she said, it is

944
00:38:48,704 --> 00:38:51,784
Speaker 4: so lovely to see you again. I so remember that day,

945
00:38:52,064 --> 00:38:54,544
Speaker 4: and I think I thought about it and then I

946
00:38:54,744 --> 00:38:57,544
Speaker 4: said to her, it's so lovely to see you again

947
00:38:57,624 --> 00:39:00,224
Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm gonna cry now. It's so

948
00:39:00,304 --> 00:39:02,064
Speaker 4: lovely to see you again because I wasn't working in

949
00:39:02,224 --> 00:39:07,504
Speaker 4: entertainment journalism when I had one mate, why am I crying?

950
00:39:07,704 --> 00:39:09,664
Speaker 4: I hadn't worked in entertainment journalism. I was just starting

951
00:39:09,664 --> 00:39:11,864
Speaker 4: to dip my toe at the time because I got

952
00:39:11,904 --> 00:39:13,944
Speaker 4: hired at my mirror as the weekend editor to like

953
00:39:13,984 --> 00:39:16,584
Speaker 4: be more news focused, and I just thought that was

954
00:39:16,584 --> 00:39:18,264
Speaker 4: such a great experience, so ible to like watch your

955
00:39:18,264 --> 00:39:20,264
Speaker 4: show and then talk to the person who's on it

956
00:39:20,624 --> 00:39:22,704
Speaker 4: and get to like see the creativity and see what

957
00:39:22,744 --> 00:39:25,544
Speaker 4: they did. And so I went into entertainment journalism full

958
00:39:25,624 --> 00:39:28,424
Speaker 4: time after that, and so I was really nice to

959
00:39:28,464 --> 00:39:30,464
Speaker 4: tell her that, and so we hugged and I told

960
00:39:30,504 --> 00:39:31,904
Speaker 4: her that, and then I said to her, now I

961
00:39:31,944 --> 00:39:34,064
Speaker 4: do this full time, and then we high fived, and

962
00:39:34,104 --> 00:39:36,344
Speaker 4: then Pedro was like clapping for it.

963
00:39:37,704 --> 00:39:39,664
Speaker 2: Was there. I'm still like my head's bleeding because I

964
00:39:39,704 --> 00:39:41,224
Speaker 2: hit it on the mic and it was a little thing.

965
00:39:41,424 --> 00:39:42,864
Speaker 2: And then I was like, Elves. It was so nice

966
00:39:42,904 --> 00:39:43,064
Speaker 2: to me.

967
00:39:43,344 --> 00:39:45,824
Speaker 4: And I walked out and one of the people who

968
00:39:45,864 --> 00:39:47,504
Speaker 4: was traveling with them, like their head popists, was like,

969
00:39:47,504 --> 00:39:48,784
Speaker 4: those are a good deal, and I was like, oh, thanks.

970
00:39:48,824 --> 00:39:49,664
Speaker 4: I couldn't even say anything.

971
00:39:49,704 --> 00:39:50,944
Speaker 2: And normally when you walk.

972
00:39:50,744 --> 00:39:52,984
Speaker 4: Out of these things, you go and say goodbye to everyone,

973
00:39:53,064 --> 00:39:55,664
Speaker 4: because like everyone in Sydney who works and media is there.

974
00:39:56,104 --> 00:39:58,264
Speaker 4: I just grabbed my bag, I left and I went

975
00:39:58,264 --> 00:40:00,264
Speaker 4: around the side at the hotel. There was staying into

976
00:40:00,264 --> 00:40:02,544
Speaker 4: this like little alley wave that leads into the harbor,

977
00:40:02,904 --> 00:40:03,424
Speaker 4: and I just.

978
00:40:03,384 --> 00:40:07,024
Speaker 2: Like burst into deer because I think it was the

979
00:40:07,064 --> 00:40:08,304
Speaker 2: build up and the whole day.

980
00:40:08,664 --> 00:40:10,704
Speaker 4: It was the build up of everything. And then I

981
00:40:10,744 --> 00:40:12,544
Speaker 4: stopped crying, I got no ruber and came to work.

982
00:40:14,824 --> 00:40:18,064
Speaker 3: That interview was so like, it was so sure.

983
00:40:18,144 --> 00:40:20,664
Speaker 2: I can't stress enough. How you literally have like five minutes.

984
00:40:20,704 --> 00:40:24,024
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe we all just were like Vanessa, Kobe, Pedro,

985
00:40:24,144 --> 00:40:27,184
Speaker 4: Pascal and I having this huge emotional moment in five minutes.

986
00:40:27,264 --> 00:40:30,344
Speaker 3: It's insane that they like you moved them so much.

987
00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,144
Speaker 3: You're with me like that whole interview is so well done,

988
00:40:33,224 --> 00:40:37,344
Speaker 3: and I think you talking about what happened in twenty

989
00:40:37,504 --> 00:40:40,464
Speaker 3: seventeen just like cemented her the idea for her that

990
00:40:40,544 --> 00:40:42,944
Speaker 3: like where she was then compared to where she is now.

991
00:40:43,184 --> 00:40:44,624
Speaker 4: I mean that's the only reason I brought it up,

992
00:40:44,624 --> 00:40:46,544
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to be self indulgent. And again

993
00:40:46,584 --> 00:40:48,224
Speaker 4: I didn't think she'd remember, but I just wanted to

994
00:40:48,264 --> 00:40:49,904
Speaker 4: sort of say to her, remember when you just walked

995
00:40:49,904 --> 00:40:51,944
Speaker 4: into her office on your first job, and you and

996
00:40:51,984 --> 00:40:54,744
Speaker 4: I sat and like with the phone together, and she

997
00:40:54,904 --> 00:40:56,984
Speaker 4: was really excited because she took this big job and

998
00:40:57,024 --> 00:40:58,784
Speaker 4: she was like auditioning for other things that she hadn't

999
00:40:58,784 --> 00:41:00,024
Speaker 4: got yet, and she was sort of saying to me,

1000
00:41:00,064 --> 00:41:01,424
Speaker 4: like I want to do this, and I want to

1001
00:41:01,464 --> 00:41:03,024
Speaker 4: do that and all this sort of stuff, and I

1002
00:41:03,064 --> 00:41:05,104
Speaker 4: was just like, look at you, like, look what you've done.

1003
00:41:05,304 --> 00:41:07,624
Speaker 4: It's incredible. So, yeah, it was.

1004
00:41:07,704 --> 00:41:09,704
Speaker 3: If you want to watch like the whole interview and

1005
00:41:09,784 --> 00:41:12,184
Speaker 3: watch every thing, it is up on our YouTube channel

1006
00:41:12,184 --> 00:41:14,584
Speaker 3: on Mama Mia. We'll put a link in our show notes,

1007
00:41:14,664 --> 00:41:16,264
Speaker 3: and yes, like you said, we'll also put a link

1008
00:41:16,304 --> 00:41:18,424
Speaker 3: to all of our social media is that you can

1009
00:41:18,544 --> 00:41:21,464
Speaker 3: watch the videos because it is so so good.

1010
00:41:21,664 --> 00:41:23,224
Speaker 4: I know, I've got the photo of Innessa and I

1011
00:41:23,264 --> 00:41:24,864
Speaker 4: that we took off my phone. Maybe I'll put that

1012
00:41:24,944 --> 00:41:26,984
Speaker 4: up too, so you can see how beautifully we've aged.

1013
00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:29,664
Speaker 4: But yes, also, after all this, the movie is still

1014
00:41:29,704 --> 00:41:32,184
Speaker 4: coming out next week. The premier's still happening. We haven't

1015
00:41:32,224 --> 00:41:35,304
Speaker 4: even gone to the movie. Yeah, the Fantastic Four First

1016
00:41:35,304 --> 00:41:37,824
Speaker 4: Steps is coming out in cinemas in Australia on July

1017
00:41:37,904 --> 00:41:38,504
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1018
00:41:38,904 --> 00:41:40,624
Speaker 2: Make sure you see it. We're gonna go see it.

1019
00:41:40,744 --> 00:41:41,544
Speaker 2: We're gonna be excited.

1020
00:41:41,584 --> 00:41:41,984
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1021
00:41:42,224 --> 00:41:42,824
Speaker 2: Give you our.

1022
00:41:42,664 --> 00:41:45,944
Speaker 3: Thoughts and give us stick. Please, thank you so much

1023
00:41:45,984 --> 00:41:47,944
Speaker 3: for listening to the Spill today. Do not forget to

1024
00:41:47,984 --> 00:41:50,784
Speaker 3: follow us on TikTok at the Spill podcast. The Spill

1025
00:41:50,864 --> 00:41:53,984
Speaker 3: is produced by Militia Swine with sound production by Scott Stronik.

1026
00:41:54,104 --> 00:41:55,704
Speaker 3: And we'll be back here on your podcast speed for

1027
00:41:55,744 --> 00:41:57,424
Speaker 3: a weekend watch tomorrow.

1028
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Speaker 2: Bye bye, Lan