WEBVTT - Our Most Talked About Conversation: F*ck First — And Other Cheat Codes For Life

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<v Speaker 3>What's your cheat code for life? The thing you swear

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<v Speaker 3>by that opens doors makes everything easier and you wish

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<v Speaker 3>you knew earlier. There is a Reddit thread going viral

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<v Speaker 3>where people share their insights, and some are pretty obvious,

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<v Speaker 3>from looking people in the eye to learning to say

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<v Speaker 3>no to getting enough sleep. Here are some other popular

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<v Speaker 3>examples I came across. Get everything in writing, So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in a meeting and your manager promises you something,

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<v Speaker 3>then make sure you get them to email it to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Or let's say your accountant assures you of something and

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<v Speaker 3>it just sounds a bit like I would want to

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<v Speaker 3>just confirm that, get it in writing. Another one is

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<v Speaker 3>you can make more friends in two months by becoming

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<v Speaker 3>interested in other people than you can in two years

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<v Speaker 3>by trying to get other people interested in you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very good advice.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that one. And no one stops someone carrying pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get backstage at concerts. Now we don't can

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<v Speaker 3>don't trespassing, but think about it. If someone came to

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<v Speaker 3>this off and they just had a few things of

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<v Speaker 3>pizza and it smelt good, I'd let them in if

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<v Speaker 3>you were backstage, if we were backstage at Out Loud,

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<v Speaker 3>back to go on stage for our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give people ideas unless they have pizza in which

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<v Speaker 1>come on after the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show you're allowed. We asked people in the Mummeya office

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<v Speaker 3>what their cheat code to life is and here's what

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<v Speaker 3>they told us.

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<v Speaker 4>My life pack is don't put the email address of

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<v Speaker 4>the person you're emailing in until you've written and table

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<v Speaker 4>checked your email. It really saves any unedited or unfinished

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<v Speaker 4>emails being sent accidentally.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest lesson it was actually from my dad that

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<v Speaker 5>my dad ever taught me was always admit when you've

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<v Speaker 5>made a mistake. If you can do anything in life

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<v Speaker 5>is always admit when you're wrong and when you've made

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<v Speaker 5>a mistake, because that way, you're always going to reflect

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<v Speaker 5>on your behavior and your role in something, and it

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<v Speaker 5>also makes you look at the other side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm feeling overwhelmed, I try to take a moment and.

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<v Speaker 2>Take five deep breaths.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this helps me process what has happened and

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<v Speaker 1>to not overreact.

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<v Speaker 6>When I'm talking to someone new, I try to remember

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<v Speaker 6>one personal fact about them. If I know that I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to see them again, like the name of their

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<v Speaker 6>dog or what suburb they live in, I can ask

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<v Speaker 6>them about it the next time I see them. Then

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<v Speaker 6>they know that I've listened to them and that I

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<v Speaker 6>care what they're saying, and hopefully they can become more

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<v Speaker 6>trusting of me after that.

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<v Speaker 7>So if I'm ever in a situation where I'm asked

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<v Speaker 7>for my opinion about something that's important or a big

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<v Speaker 7>decision or something that I just know is going to

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<v Speaker 7>take a lot of thoughts just in the moment saying hey,

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<v Speaker 7>let me just sleep on this and get back to

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<v Speaker 7>you tomorrow. I used to think that I needed to

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<v Speaker 7>sort of have an answer straight away ready to go,

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<v Speaker 7>but sleeping on something just always gives me so much

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<v Speaker 7>more clarity.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so my friend has this great cheek code. She

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<v Speaker 3>always looks smart at the airport, and she reckons that's

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<v Speaker 3>the secret to getting upgraded to business class.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the best things I got from a parenting

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<v Speaker 8>book is just add water. So if your kid is

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<v Speaker 8>losing their shit, you either put them outside with the sprinklers,

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<v Speaker 8>throw them in the bath, or give them a drink

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<v Speaker 8>of water. I've actually started doing that myself and it

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<v Speaker 8>is a game changer. So if I've got a tough

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<v Speaker 8>decision to make, or if i want to go and

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<v Speaker 8>yell at someone, I'll take a shower first, I'll drink

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<v Speaker 8>a glass of water. It always calms me down, and

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<v Speaker 8>it always works.

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<v Speaker 1>How that is Hollywood's enthusiastically agreeing with almost all of

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<v Speaker 1>those shoes, Like, yep, yep, that works, Yep, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do them all, but they're all very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I also asked the out louders if they had any

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<v Speaker 3>and here are some that they came up with. I

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<v Speaker 3>really like this one from Brooks. She says, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>big fan of don't put it down, put it away,

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not allowed to, like just put your bag down.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got a place, put it away. Another one from Kirby.

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<v Speaker 3>Every Sunday I make uniform packs for each kid, so

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<v Speaker 3>school uniform undie sox, roll it up and put a

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<v Speaker 3>rubber band around it. They go in baskets in our buffet,

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<v Speaker 3>and each morning kids go and grab their own pack

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<v Speaker 3>and get dressed. I wish I was like her, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not too. Another one that I really liked was from Chloe.

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<v Speaker 3>This is again for kids, which is every time you're

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<v Speaker 3>giving medication, text your partner what time because you forget,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how it's got to be like four or

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<v Speaker 3>six hours away. But if you don't have a partner,

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<v Speaker 3>text anyone, text yourself. Yeah, make a note of it, Liz,

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<v Speaker 3>good quality roboback. I would really like a robovacum. My

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<v Speaker 3>other one actually is, and I've started doing this, I

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<v Speaker 3>never regret it is taking a photo of where I

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<v Speaker 3>parked that body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I have just doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I also take a photo of if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the shopping center, the place that you enter the

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<v Speaker 2>shopping center, because it's all very well knowing you're on

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<v Speaker 2>C seven, but you can't remember where C seven is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right, And if you know that, you came in

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<v Speaker 2>next to T two.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you're fine, Yes, yes, Maya. You had a birthday

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<v Speaker 3>this week, so i'd hope that you'd learned a few lessons.

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<v Speaker 3>What are some of your cheat codes?

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<v Speaker 1>I have written down four I could just think of

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is if you are someone who has to

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<v Speaker 1>have daily medication but you sometimes can't remember if you've

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<v Speaker 1>had it or not. I now have a pill box

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<v Speaker 1>with the days, and I just dispense all my pills,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every couple of weeks into this pill box.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other way to do it is to say

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, I'm having my pill now on Tuesday. As

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<v Speaker 1>you have it, I say it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd be so annoying to live with. I know you're

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<v Speaker 3>annoying to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you buy those pill boxes?

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<v Speaker 1>Chemist?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Or Amazon? Chemists?

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<v Speaker 3>You think you know, and then you get into bed

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<v Speaker 3>and you go, no, no, I took that pill.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye was that yesterday? And it's like, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have a memory of taking that pill. I'm always living

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<v Speaker 1>in my head and half the time I'm on an

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<v Speaker 1>automatic pilot. I don't remember what I've done or what

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done. It might not be a pill It

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<v Speaker 1>might be if you always forget to turn off your

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<v Speaker 1>hair straight now and you know you're driving to work

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, did I turn it up? And you're like, so, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning off my hair straightener today on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on my next.

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<v Speaker 1>To lie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like how you tell come live with me, knock

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<v Speaker 2>your head up three times on the pillow, and go,

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<v Speaker 2>I will not have a bad dream tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I've found another cheak code. If you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad dream, just before you go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine white color white, like white, like looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>white sheet, like with your eyes closed, a white wall

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. If you just think white, white, white,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you won't have a bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Scientific take away.

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<v Speaker 1>My next cheak code for life is when I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional and I'm having big feelings that seem out

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<v Speaker 1>of proportion to the thing that's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>That that doesn't happen very often, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>why you would need a cheat code.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, happy except I always forget this cheat code,

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<v Speaker 1>but please from mine. I had a therapist who used

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<v Speaker 1>to do this and she would say, how old do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel right now? Pet? She would say, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds passive aggressive, but she was never being passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>She like, I didn't mind her calling me pet, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was very clarifying. It immediately tunes you in or

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<v Speaker 1>tunes me into, going, I feel six years old? What

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in my life when I was six

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<v Speaker 1>years old? What does this feel like to me? And

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<v Speaker 1>if you literally say to yourself, either out loud or

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<v Speaker 1>in your head, particularly if you're having an argument with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just are like, how well do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Pet? So here's something I warn against. He's

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<v Speaker 1>asking your partner bash because I've tried that with my

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<v Speaker 1>partner and he's tried that with me because we were

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<v Speaker 1>at the therapist together and we both found it pretty useful.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that can make things a bit worse. But

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<v Speaker 1>I find that to me to be really clarifying because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, you genuinely do believe that your big

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<v Speaker 1>feeling is about this thing, but it feels like you've

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<v Speaker 1>been a bit taken over and you don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>you're so upset. Anyway, So that helps my next one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got so many Okay, this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good one. How to make a decision. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a bit like I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do. Sometimes you can overthink it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can over intellectualize it, and you just need to

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with your gut. And your gut is

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<v Speaker 1>actually not we will, it's actually just the accumulation of

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<v Speaker 1>all the experiences that you've ever had. And your gut

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<v Speaker 1>is good. So what you do is you say to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>should I go to this part? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to this party or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know. Can I be bothered? Say

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, I'm definitely going to this party. I'm definitely going,

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<v Speaker 1>as if you've made the decision, and see what emotion

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<v Speaker 1>comes up in you. And it might be relief, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be dread, dread, it might be nausea, exciting, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just observe that for a second and then just go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely not going to this party. And observe what

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<v Speaker 1>And it might be relief, it might be disappointment. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be And someone taught me that when I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether I should move overseas to New York, or

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<v Speaker 1>take your job as editor of Cosmo. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>really torn because they were both pretty exciting opportunities, and

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<v Speaker 1>she talked me through that, and it's something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>used a lot of times since and it never gets

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong. And then the last one is something I

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<v Speaker 1>learned from this podcast many years ago. Instead of saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, say thank you for your understanding, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of manipulate someone into not being mad with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So like in emails or like in meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like I'm so sorry I'm late, it's like, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for understanding I've just had the worst morning,

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<v Speaker 1>or yes I couldn't kind of part.

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<v Speaker 3>You've said as well. When I say i'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>then put some responsibility on you to make me feel better,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really annoying for the person who's been.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying like I'm so sorry and they're just like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you just go thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>understanding or for not leaving or whatever, it is like

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<v Speaker 1>it flips it and it gives the person a compliment

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<v Speaker 1>and some status for being a good person and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tricks them into being less mad with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Holly, what do you have Okay, you have some cheakcakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no practical ones because my practical life is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the people who are like like the lady

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<v Speaker 2>with the school uniform. I wish I was that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never that, and I just can't get my shit

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<v Speaker 2>together in that way. But I have like other ones

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Who did we seal this from me? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always fuck first?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was from Dan Savage who has this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very good advice.

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<v Speaker 3>I find does mean that you should say with people

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<v Speaker 3>all the time away.

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<v Speaker 2>What it means. So this is particularly good advice for

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<v Speaker 2>a phase in your life. Right, So imagine this. You

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<v Speaker 2>and your partner have got a date night, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>rare that you've got a date night because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got kids and you've got whatever. But maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>find the kids out to their grandparents for the night,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe whatever, and you go, it's gonna be great. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go out for a meal, we're gonna have cocktails,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna come home, we're gonna have sex. Gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be great. No, you're not, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time you've gone out and you've had the

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<v Speaker 2>cocktails and you've eaten the food, and what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do when you come back is lin on the

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<v Speaker 2>couch and watch something stupidep.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel bloated, you'll get sloppy.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck first. Always getting ready for a wedding, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>sauning date. Fuck first, then go out, got a dinner date,

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck first, always fuck first. That is the best.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a big meal. You're not feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Late night sex is not it when you're not like

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<v Speaker 2>it's different when you're in a different phase of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're an established so they go you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>expecting a sex cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>Because then you have an empty stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And also about with the spring in your step,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you sit there at dinner, you're not like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just good. It's just always a good plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that one. You too, won't agree with

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<v Speaker 2>me about this. Anyone who bitches to you is also

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<v Speaker 2>bitching about you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fine bitchy words to live by.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how we often talk about how you need

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<v Speaker 2>people in your life. You can bitch too, and you

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<v Speaker 2>do right like generally, But people who always bitch to

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<v Speaker 2>you about everybody. They are also bitching to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, without question, but I'm not bitching about everybody

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<v Speaker 3>on my bitch about like two people to you, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not bitching about you. Do you believe me?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that about when I used to get Brazilian

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<v Speaker 1>bikini waxes and my waxa used to tell me things

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<v Speaker 1>about her other clients. Yes, And I was a bit like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in professional settings, this is particularly true.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, sometimes you'll interview someone for a job when I've

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<v Speaker 2>been a manager, and actually me is terrible this because

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<v Speaker 2>she always tries to get people to bitch in job interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if the person that you're interviewing will bitch

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<v Speaker 2>about their current employer, but it's a test hire them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a and forgossip pos Thank you for your understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listening and changing your mind is a sign of strength,

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<v Speaker 2>not weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred Every time strong opinions lose me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, people who are very much like you know, oh

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<v Speaker 2>you used to think this, and no you think that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you said that that time and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know what they're doing. Those people, they're silly.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't have a better idea, shut the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck up. That is something I was by a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're just like I don't like that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's wrong. Da da da da da, And you can

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<v Speaker 2>get into a really negative cycle. You've got to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>have I got a better idea? Do I think?

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<v Speaker 3>How would I do it? And is it honestly better?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it better? Always?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That's and can you be bothered to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you probably can't, in which case, forget about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some Okay, mine are weird. Good one that

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<v Speaker 3>I have is about memory. I've said it before, years

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<v Speaker 3>and years ago, but this is something I did when

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<v Speaker 3>I was studying at school, and I read this fact

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere and the fact might not be true. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to remember something, memorize something, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a speech or a fact or notes. I'll print

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<v Speaker 3>it on green paper. I read it once. Apparently if

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<v Speaker 3>you read off green paper, it's a trigger for memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have green paper for that purpose?

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<v Speaker 3>I used to. I haven't needed it recently, But if

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<v Speaker 3>I was like doing a speech where I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to know this completely off by heart, I

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<v Speaker 3>would do it on green paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you can replicate that on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, who's going to go out and buy

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<v Speaker 1>green paper?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>See?

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<v Speaker 3>I always do paper. I think phones very very different.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that my brain is wired to forget everything

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<v Speaker 3>I look at that's on a screen. I think when

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<v Speaker 3>it's on paper, it holds totally different.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you like print out all your school notes

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<v Speaker 1>on green paper?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yep, and how green green that I'm still like,

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<v Speaker 3>read it like that the black is still visible. But

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's not, if I'm telling my brain this

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<v Speaker 3>green paper means I'll memorize it, it's like pale green.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's always helped me. My rule for emails or

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<v Speaker 3>messages or anything is do not open it until you

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<v Speaker 3>can reply.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good rule because I always forget that rule,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why I'm very bad on email. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, I'm going to read it. I'll go. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get back to that later. No, I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, my memory is not good enough for that. I

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<v Speaker 3>use the Pomodori method for just about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So timing yep. I have a stop watch for everything

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<v Speaker 3>I do. What it is, It's like, recently, I had

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<v Speaker 3>this big ish project that I had to complete, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like pulling teeth. I just was not enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>any I knew I needed to do it, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was a job, and every time I sat down to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, I would go, you're going to do twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the clock, time it now, and just get

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you almost have to sneak up on yourself. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do that. I set thirty minutes on my

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<v Speaker 2>phone and then I put my phone in a drawer

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere away yep. And then when my thirty minutes goes off,

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<v Speaker 2>that I focus. I'm allowed to play with my phone

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<v Speaker 2>for four minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have to put another timer on.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually makes you satisfied because sometimes when you're doing projects,

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<v Speaker 3>you can spend twenty minutes doing something and you've got

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<v Speaker 3>no more words, and you actually don't feel like you've

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<v Speaker 3>got anywhere, but you always have. So it's a way

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<v Speaker 3>of measuring progress. Another one I have is when you're

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<v Speaker 3>speaking to someone and they're telling you something, say you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than I know, like if I'm really engaged and hoy,

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<v Speaker 3>you're telling me about the substance and your analysis of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say, yeah, I know, yeah, I know. It's

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<v Speaker 3>quite dismissive and it sounds like I think I know everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes you feel a lot smarter if I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, you're right, it's true, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>helpful for relation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. A tangent on that is that I found

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<v Speaker 1>this particularly when I had little kids and everyone's giving

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot of advice. Oh, and people like push

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<v Speaker 1>it onto you, and I used to try and push

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<v Speaker 1>back it, like I used to resent it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized they'll keep going until you say, what a

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<v Speaker 1>great idea? Yeah, that will shut them up. Then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>move on because they think that you're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're not. But you just say that to

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<v Speaker 1>make them star. You just go. That is such a

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone's giving you advice you don't want to take.

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<v Speaker 3>My last one is argue the point, not the person

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<v Speaker 3>related to that, and never argue on the internet. But

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<v Speaker 3>anyone I see, or even if I'm having a discussion

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<v Speaker 3>or an argument with someone, there is a threshold by

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<v Speaker 3>which they've completely lost me. And it's like any name calling,

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<v Speaker 3>even in people that I really respect their opinion, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like at that point, I've just write it off. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's something that's really really hard to keep yourself accountable for.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I'm better at it now than I

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<v Speaker 3>was five years ago. Oh and hopefully in five years

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be much much better at it. But like playing

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, not the player or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mean, like the way the Internet's made everyone

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<v Speaker 1>jump straight to you're a racist, you're a fascist, yere.

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<v Speaker 2>Or even like the vice presidential debate this week, Roundly

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<v Speaker 2>people are generally saying Jade Vance won that, and all

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<v Speaker 2>the leftist people don't like him, right, including myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>rather than admitting that he won that, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't mean we should all go out and

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<v Speaker 2>vote for him. They're all going look at his stupid

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<v Speaker 2>way he looks stupid, Look at his stupid eyeline. I

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<v Speaker 2>look at his stupid and it's not eyeliner. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the point. But it's like petty name calling. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>immediately I think a lot less of that person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that if we're having an argument and

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<v Speaker 3>you say something that I don't agree with, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I go, well, you would think that because and I

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<v Speaker 3>bring up something from your personal life, I've clearly lost

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<v Speaker 3>my either train of thought or my point, because if

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<v Speaker 3>my point's strong enough, then I don't need to start

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<v Speaker 3>character assassinating you or making assumptions about your life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's something that I try and hold myself too.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart, because by calling someone a name, you just immediately

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<v Speaker 1>shut down any possibility of conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Or making something personal that isn't personal. Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like, because then immediately just put somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>back up and you don't. Yeah, I agree, good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got one more sleep on it. Always, always, always

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<v Speaker 2>everything I'm really really upset about. I nearly always feel

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<v Speaker 2>better the next day. So unless you can't sleep on

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<v Speaker 2>it because it's a decision that needs to be made

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>How about but everyone says about not going to bed

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<v Speaker 3>angry with your partner. What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Sometimes I'm not a grudge keeper, so I couldn't be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've got friends who cannot speak to their partner

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<v Speaker 2>for three days and live in the same house.

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<v Speaker 3>I could never ever do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not my nature. It doesn't mean I'm particularly not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like I'm more of a goldfish, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? So that's not so much of

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<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they sleep on it things interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>try to be that sometimes. But then I do sleep

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to in the course of an argument,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just kind of lose interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Grudge. Maybe that's good, right, yeah, because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can be frustrating when I want to hold it.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was worth holding, you maybe would hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>Loud. That's actually a low pat There you go, out Louders.

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