WEBVTT - Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I didn't get so close to tears, But

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do? It's no filter, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no fighting filter. It's true what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Brammel is one of those actors Australians feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they know. For more than two decades, he's been a

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<v Speaker 2>familiar presence on our screens, building a career that's been

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<v Speaker 2>steady respected and quietly impressive. But in the last few

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<v Speaker 2>years something has shifted. Alongside his wife, actor and writer

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<v Speaker 2>Harriet Dyer, he co created and starred in Colin from Accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>a show that started as a very specific, very Australian

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<v Speaker 2>story and quickly became a global hit. Off screen, their

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<v Speaker 2>lives are just as intertwined. They write together, act together,

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<v Speaker 2>and are raising a young family. Patrick Brammele is on

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<v Speaker 2>the cusp of something bigger again. He's just been introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to a global audience in a very different way, starring

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<v Speaker 2>as the new life of Interest opposite Anne had the

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<v Speaker 2>Way in the highly anticipated sequel to The Devil Wears Prada,

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<v Speaker 2>a film with a legacy, a fan base, and a

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<v Speaker 2>cultural footprint that's hard to overstate. This conversation was recorded

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<v Speaker 2>the day before the film was released. Before the reviews,

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<v Speaker 2>before the reaction, before the moment where everything potentially changes.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we wanted to understand who Patrick Bramble really is,

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<v Speaker 2>the road that got him here, the life he's built

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<v Speaker 2>along the way, and what it feels like to be

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<v Speaker 2>standing on the edge of something that could change everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question? And let me answer that question with another question.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kate Lanebrook So no Filter?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, same? Okay, you've checked made it, You've called

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<v Speaker 1>my bluffield, Well I have. I'm Patrick Bramble, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also from no Filter.

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<v Speaker 2>You are from no Filter. And not only that, you're

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<v Speaker 2>now are from the world, from the world. You were

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<v Speaker 2>always from the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was always very much from the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something about Australians and I think when you

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<v Speaker 2>work in the creative endeavor on any front, that we

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<v Speaker 2>know that we are depending on your worldview at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the globe. Yeah, yep, And now you are

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<v Speaker 2>not on the bottom of the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm creeping up the side of the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>You really are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't realize how bottom of the globe you are

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<v Speaker 1>until we travel, and all Australians need to travel like

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<v Speaker 1>we do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a compulsion you have to because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest of the world's out there. I mean, I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Canberra, right, and I grew up as this

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<v Speaker 1>is why wave analogy. I grew up thinking it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nation's capital. This is a busy city. Is where it's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Nations capital is not many people know that, no, And

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<v Speaker 4>then I moved to Sydney when I was what twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>like proper, and I went, oh, okay, there's actually an

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<v Speaker 4>organic logic to the city, Like it starts at the

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<v Speaker 4>harbor and it spreads out and things make sense on

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<v Speaker 4>a different and I was like, and obviously it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot busier.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and that's how I felt about going out

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<v Speaker 1>into Europe, into America, you know, and just going, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>things are actually happening here. And let me add a

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkle to that. I'm really pleased we're down here. It

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<v Speaker 1>is such a joy for me, Like Haar and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been based in la for some years and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>such a joy to know that we can come back

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<v Speaker 1>at any moment. Obviously because of the States lately, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a dumpster fire in many respects, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of American friends are like, thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got an escape patch, you know, yes, And I also,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, I do love it over there.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got this place in La and we're very very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that hood and the American people lost for

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Near lost for lep Atwater. So it's lovely and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the least LA place. It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>People walk around like for some reason Australians when we

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<v Speaker 1>go to La, we will go to West Hollywood. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea why it's mental there. And I lived

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<v Speaker 1>there for like a year or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay in West Tolly. What is it the yogurt shops.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the yoga yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>frenetic there. And then I lived there for like a

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<v Speaker 1>year or so and then I moved out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell was I doing? Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you move? So you got together with Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>Harriet died, so we have to say genius, Oh my

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<v Speaker 2>god to tell you on your part, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't understand it from her end.

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<v Speaker 1>No one understands it from her end, no one. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah we got it together.

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<v Speaker 3>You were doing that sketch comedy show. Was that the

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<v Speaker 3>sketch comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Show Elegant Gentleman's Guy Tonight Fight?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were doing Oh what's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no activity, Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a sketch show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was funny, Yes, it was fun It was

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy what we call a comedy and and so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Harry was in that.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that time, so I moved over around twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably moved about twenty sixteen. I got a pilot

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<v Speaker 1>there in twenty fourteen fifteen, and so I flew over

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<v Speaker 1>there shot that.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get the pilot from here?

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly, yes, because I'd never got an American job before.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I did an ABC show here called The

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<v Speaker 1>Strange Calls With It was created by Daily Pierson, who's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the makers of Bluey. He's a genius, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote and directed that and we did it with

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Krocker was in it. It was like a really

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<v Speaker 1>Toby trust Love and I played this role. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 1>did a season novel here on ABC and it was

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<v Speaker 1>well received enough, and then they wanted to make an

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<v Speaker 1>American version of it. And then so they asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to put down a tape for the same role, but Americans. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did and weirdly got it.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you say American was an American accent?

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<v Speaker 1>American accent? Come on, I'm not doing it. You'll not

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<v Speaker 1>lead me into this Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's amazing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a terrible thing for actors when you get put

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<v Speaker 2>on the spot at that.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, They're like, you do a great Stanley Tucci impression.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, do I. So here's a challenge, say

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<v Speaker 1>this is Stanley too. I was like, this is like TV.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we say? Well, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Yeah, great, it's like punctuation.

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<v Speaker 2>So Patrick Brammel, we saw you last night at the

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<v Speaker 2>premiere of Devils Prat.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great. It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I love just saying old friends meet a new friend,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you. So the world is going to meet

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they've already met me.

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<v Speaker 3>They have already met you the meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>The meeting is on Thursday, which is tomorrow, right Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>When this comes out on Monday, Monday, I've already met me.

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<v Speaker 3>They've met you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, no, please as you how okay? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw me last night at the premiere Sydney premier.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the red car growing an interview and

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<v Speaker 1>you interrupted a very important interview and I lost my

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<v Speaker 1>train of thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, hello, Braml.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, Hio Brammel, and I went, we'll do the

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow line Brook. You know I'm doing something else, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I and so yes, so he has already opened. Now

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So we had the premier last night, but

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<v Speaker 1>by the time this goes happens correct, people were seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And how does that feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Because even when we were waiting last night for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the movie to start, and we were looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the big screen and there was Meryl Street, ding Ding,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne Hathaway, Annie as you call it, I do, Stanley Chucci,

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<v Speaker 2>he's Italian on boat side.

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<v Speaker 3>Really annoys my husband. By the way, Harry and I

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<v Speaker 3>love that. Ye as well. He got that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they've dropped it apparently from the new series. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't say it anymore any well. The point is we

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<v Speaker 2>know those dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Emily Ding, Emily Dell, the Legacy cast.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, and what are they calling you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just just Australian guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, so how does that feel?

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<v Speaker 1>It feels pretty weird. And so when I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time at the New York premiere the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, that's when I first saw it with and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, kind of, I didn't do that, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a good look looking at something about But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like looking at it, going, don't ruin it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ruin it because I speak with the Australian accent.

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<v Speaker 1>I speak just like this. I use the same body

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and the same head, same head, same hair,

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<v Speaker 1>all same shit. And I was a bit like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>ruin the movie, mate, like be in it, be of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That was what I was most concerned. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I watched I was like, it works. I fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I fit ye. And that's testament to not just me,

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<v Speaker 1>but the writing and the makeup and the I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I fit in that.

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<v Speaker 2>No one who's watching it is going hold makeup and

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<v Speaker 2>lighting and they're just going Patrick Bramle, Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that is Yes, uneasy lies the head that

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<v Speaker 2>wears the crown?

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy, Oh that wears the crown.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so Shakespearean. Wow, I thought it was uneasy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, I'm sure it's heavy. It's uneasy, he's uneasy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not rewrite the bard Let's deck with the heavy

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<v Speaker 1>as the head that wears the crown.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I've been school massively by Hollywood superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. How does that feel? Really? You like it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it feels humbling or humiliating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fine line.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You were playing an American bizarrely when so Devil Wears

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<v Speaker 2>Prather too very exciting American production of huge, massive production.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't want you to be an American.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was a written I think they went through

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<v Speaker 1>lots of iterations of the character, like who is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they wanted there was so much scrutiny on the

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<v Speaker 1>making of this one because the first one is so beloved,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they went through a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 1>iterations of what you know, Andy's love interest should be,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was like versions of like is it an

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<v Speaker 1>old flame from school? Is it that? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>they took a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Greenie was never going to get a crack at

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<v Speaker 3>it him and he wasn't going to get a redemption round.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I felt bad. We've never met him, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did his job well, like he's Did that mean we've

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<v Speaker 1>never met him? I meant to say, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>sounded well, are my people and I have not My

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<v Speaker 1>team has not met him. No, I've never met him.

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<v Speaker 1>But his character's function in the first season is to go, hey, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making a deal with the devil. You've changed. I

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<v Speaker 1>like you the way you are and like at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and go yeah. But then in the ensuing years people like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the villain of the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the passage of time will sometimes do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because people love the Andy characters so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>so any kind of negative stuff around her I think

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<v Speaker 1>didn't age. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so all these conversations were happening, Yeah, you and you?

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<v Speaker 3>Where were you at this point? Where are you? And

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<v Speaker 3>what's your life?

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<v Speaker 1>What's my life looks at this I was in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first half of last year, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was shooting an Apple show called I think it's called

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<v Speaker 1>Last Scene that's coming out later this year. That's a drama,

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<v Speaker 1>not a laugh in it, like Grieving Father, like dark,

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<v Speaker 1>dark stuff. I'm excited to say that, But I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. It was a long ship. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred days shoot. So I'm there in Melvs with Harry

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<v Speaker 1>and our two little daughters.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the new one was really little then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was, she was she was months old. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like from like three months to to like what's

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<v Speaker 1>eight months and and so we're wrapping that up. We're

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ay from wrapping that up, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to move to Montreal for five months because Harry

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<v Speaker 1>got a job at an American job, the CBS show

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<v Speaker 1>called DMV and that was shooting in Montreal. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to move from Melbourne to Montreal with two kids

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<v Speaker 1>and a nanny. And I got a call saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they're having trouble casts in this role and they'd love

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<v Speaker 1>you to put down a tape. And I said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so lovely. I respectfully won't put down a tape because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the time, Like I'm genuinely don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the time to put down a tape, like to put

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<v Speaker 1>down a good tape. You don't want to put down

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<v Speaker 1>something half as you want to put down something good.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes half a day. You're going to learn it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make it, do the takes because edit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah, blah and any other time. Secondly, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I got the job, we would then be in Montreal

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<v Speaker 1>and Harry will be on set fifteen hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't leave it all to the nanny, like, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be there, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've got two daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>Have two daughters, and so there's two good reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't put down a tape. The third good reason,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't tell anyone at the time, was as

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to put me in the like, no

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<v Speaker 1>one's going to cast me in that role. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not me being modest or anything like that. It's surprised

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking if I'd not seen it with my own eyes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that whole thing last night? I was an elaborate room.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just for you. This is a tri show vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was. I was not being monster or down

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<v Speaker 1>on myself or anything like that. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>the chances of me getting that are so small, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the time to spare. So I said no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a couple of days later, a mutual friend

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<v Speaker 1>at CBS and an executive who I'm friendly with who

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<v Speaker 1>I work with, she contacted me she's best mates with

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<v Speaker 1>the writer with Eleen. Okay, and she said, Eleen and

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<v Speaker 1>David the director, they really love you. They love Colin

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<v Speaker 1>from accounts, and they'd love to get your number to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. And I was like really, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, passed on my number. And then I heard

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<v Speaker 1>nothing week and I was like, this is so fucking annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had already said no to this on my

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<v Speaker 1>own terms. I felt good about it, and then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got yeah, yeah, you know, we want it, and then nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, something's happening, and then so I let it

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<v Speaker 1>go again. And then I got a text from the

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<v Speaker 1>director from David saying, hey, I know you've already said no,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would really love you to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You like, how did you get my fucking number?

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<v Speaker 5>Mane?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no, dude, how many times I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say no to you? And I was like, holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a straight up offer. And then so

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<v Speaker 1>oh oh, and I'm maintained that if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>put down a tape, yeah, you wouldn't have got I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it would have gone it. Yeah right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would ever recommend that as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a ployee because it's two high stakes. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was genuinely not doing it, and then I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved to have been it. I just didn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen, and for all the reasons I said,

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway I got the offer. Oh yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if they had got my tape, that would have gone,

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<v Speaker 1>his tapes here, his tapes here, we'd love him from

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<v Speaker 1>accounts and put it in and gone, who else is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else is?

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<v Speaker 2>Because also I I think if you had put a

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<v Speaker 2>tape in, you would have played the character that you

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<v Speaker 2>thought you needed to play. Whereas that's interesting, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>So what choice would you have made for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Peter? I would have Well, first I would have done

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<v Speaker 1>American accent because he's written.

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<v Speaker 3>As an American.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Brooklyn Brooklyn. So I was like, shit, got

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<v Speaker 1>to get a good Brooklyn accent. Once they told me.

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<v Speaker 2>The funniest thing I ever had, what os and oils,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good, And I said, okay, so Brooklyn, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe? And they said no, no, no, no, just do

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<v Speaker 1>it is Australian. That's the relief because we're shooting in

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. So yeah, and that's when I realized

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<v Speaker 1>they just loved Colin and they wanted to tap that really.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so and and it's very true to that

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<v Speaker 2>character of you, your relationship with Andy, which is very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to do because the expectations are, yeah, we don't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what our expectations are, but we know that they're high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, dangerous, very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Bread examined, high expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so true. And so when I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, Okay, what's the scene? What are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing in this scene? And everybody like this set

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<v Speaker 1>was actually really relaxed and chill, and David Frankel, the director,

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<v Speaker 1>was extremely laid back. It was just a nice vibe

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<v Speaker 1>on set. It didn't feel like a giant Hollywood right,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't feel that way. Wow, And now knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>it is a giant Hollywood movie, I wonder if any

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<v Speaker 1>giant Hollywood movie feels like it when you're on set.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon some of them do, but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe factors down from the filters, down from.

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<v Speaker 3>The leads as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The leads. There's only so so many people who can

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<v Speaker 1>set a culture on set. And David and Alene were

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<v Speaker 1>like awesome, which is like earthy, funny people. And Annie

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<v Speaker 1>was great, super down.

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<v Speaker 3>There a streep and asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I never met hers, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was, but I I wondered about that. Actually, you were

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<v Speaker 2>in that big party scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, in a big party scene with her and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't need any of them, No, and my

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<v Speaker 1>character makes an excuse to leave and you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>my character. You don't see me again in that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I didn't get to work with any of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did for the two days we shot that

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<v Speaker 1>party scene, I was basically just sitting off set with

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<v Speaker 1>Annie and Stanley and Emily and Justin throu and bj Novak. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like hanging out with the cool kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like except all the cool kids are multimillionaire famous people. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot to offer the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a very interesting thing because you have

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<v Speaker 2>been an actor in Australia with a lot of success. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of that is luck.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is luck.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of that is also I remember Eric Banner

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<v Speaker 2>saying this thing, actually there's no so he gets annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>by the luck thing his dad or seed. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>preparedness and then an opportunity knocks and then that's how you.

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<v Speaker 3>Make the most of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but my point is a lot of actors in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia don't get to work the way that you have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the next the extrapolation of that is that hardly

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<v Speaker 2>anybody gets to make a project and that it has

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<v Speaker 2>the knock on that Colin from Accounts has had. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's extraordinary because it's so it's written in

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<v Speaker 2>an Australian voice. Yeah, and it's written with these characters

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<v Speaker 2>that are so misshapen and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Very you fall in love with them, it's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Harry and I fell in love with them, like

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<v Speaker 1>those characters in that world. Like we love that world.

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<v Speaker 1>We love it and that's why we take such joy

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<v Speaker 1>in doing it and we have a really shared singular

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<v Speaker 1>point of view about it as well. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of why that show works because Been

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<v Speaker 1>and fox Tell, who are the you know, local commissioners,

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<v Speaker 1>They've been really of hands off. They don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of notes. They just let us kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>our thing, and it's a huge credit. It's a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they've done because they let us just do

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<v Speaker 1>our weird shit. And in first season we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we had no notion that it would be as successful

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<v Speaker 1>as it turned out to be, but we were like

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<v Speaker 1>satisfied with it. We were like not self satisfied. We

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<v Speaker 1>were like, we've given it everything. We have made the

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<v Speaker 1>show that we wanted to make. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to go. You never fucking know, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're happy with it, Like we think it's good and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it took off in a way that we've done.

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<v Speaker 3>How did it come out of Harry's brain?

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<v Speaker 1>We were chucking the idea around a bunch, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that meet cute idea that the meeting in the flash

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<v Speaker 1>and nipple.

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<v Speaker 3>Hitting so not cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Americans. Oh my god, that's what I mean. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the sort of thing where people are like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you'd ever come up with that by committee,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to be like no boob is and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a bit much hitting a.

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<v Speaker 3>Dog, yeah, naming a.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog, naming a dog and even selling that show in America.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the dogs fine, everyone, the dogs fine, because

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<v Speaker 1>the America is like, what they hit a dog? What Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And also the title Colin from Accounts. It put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people off the right. I know what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a workplace called I think you're Colin from account Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had an interview very recently where they said, anyway, Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>because I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy when you did a conversation with Andy Richter, who

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<v Speaker 2>was Conan's right hand die for a long time, he

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<v Speaker 2>said his wife couldn't watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It because of the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember she was like I'm out, Yes, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the that's what she get.

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<v Speaker 2>Start of the series, So risky more with Patrick after

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<v Speaker 2>this short break. So where was Harry in her life

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<v Speaker 2>with you? When she we were in LA and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was set up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think i'd like gone, hey, I'm definitely here from

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty sixteen, and he was doing other stuff here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia and she came over and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was around twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>For them, Please please thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what that is. Well, you're too damn hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Set off the alarm.

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<v Speaker 1>Disregard it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm disregarding regards very hard to disregard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. Now, I was happy to disregarded before you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It hard for me to disregard the hotness. Yeah, fair enough, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>fair enough. What should I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Just be what you're doing. It's good, it's working, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Harissa always saying about her. Oh yeah, so it's twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so she gone over, she come over to LA and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working on the US version of No Activity,

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<v Speaker 1>which we did on Sketch the Skets Show, the famous

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<v Speaker 1>sket Show, And we were doing a version of that

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome in America, which nobody saw. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was busy with that, and she was bouncing off

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<v Speaker 1>the walls waiting for work, you know, waiting to get

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<v Speaker 1>use some momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you allowed to work there? By the way, was

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<v Speaker 3>she allowed to work? Then?

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? She has complications or maybe she had a visa

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at that time green, because that's how whole finac Oh

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, that's yeah, that's it. That's a whole racket.

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we got green cars. It was all. It

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>was all fine. But anyway, until she got any work,

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.159
<v Speaker 1>which she ultimately got heaps of work over there, she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, she was going stir crazy and and

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>we were living in this tiny apartment and she had

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>talked me into fostering a dog, and this is yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fucking real, Like I always forget this. And

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>so we went down to the local thing. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like adopt a dog or foster dog day, and there

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was this one called Minchew, which is a terrible name,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was this shitty looking dog and they were like,

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.359
<v Speaker 1>this is a problem dog. You know, it's got issues,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and how I was like, I know, dogs don't want

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to like, do you, because I don't know. Do I

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.360
<v Speaker 1>gret with cats? Not really? She talks a big game

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and soort of like, you know, Minshew's been bullied by

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>all the dogs and stuff. So and she's like, it's fine,

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. So we took Minshew home and the first

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>thing we did was go, let's change that name and

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and basically like in the first episode of season one,

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>we had that back and forth and named him Colin

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>from Accounts this dog and then we're like, oh so Colin.

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was fun for a couple of days, and

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 1>then he started resource guarding like he would like he'd

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>get a sock or something and be a that's.

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 5>Myself, look at you like that that was what was

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 5>the cut of his jib by the way, scruffy, scruff

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 5>It was a bit scruff dog, poor little fella, and

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 5>he was like just and he was like holding Harry hostage,

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 5>like she could come out of the bathroom and she.

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Was was she his? Yeah, So he didn't dig on you,

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 3>he didn't.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Dig on me, and he wasn't a happy camper and

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>ultimately we had to take him back to that place.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>So we're really sorry. And Harry kept track of him

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was put in a place with someone who

0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was really good at rehabilitating dogs. Fine, who cares. And

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 1>then so anyway, so that happened, and then it was like, hey,

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>why don't you write this idea, you know? And then

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so she went away that we've been talking about. But

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>then she went away to this place called Charlie's. It

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 1>was this setup that's still in la called Australians in

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Film and it's like for Australians over there, run by

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>some big hearted geniuses there Aussi's Yeah, Peter Richie is

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy over there who runs it. And it's like, hey,

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>come in, we've got a little space here if anyone's

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to come in and do work. Or anything, or meet

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.959
<v Speaker 1>other people, meet other Australians, make contacts. So Harry went

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in there with her laptop on the Monday, spent all

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of Monday installing final drafts on her computer and getting

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and like taking the sims off her confound. Yeah, I

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>took a whole day. She came back, how's it going.

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I think I've got final draft now the

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>writing software. And then was Thursday Friday. She wrote the

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 1>fucking pilot it and came back and showed it and

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is one of.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Three days, four days.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Before, so she didn't know that you write a great

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>agony and meant to agonize over it yourself and you know,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>put it off. And it was really funny and it

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>was like the bones of the pilot never changed from

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>what she wrote really, and then you know, we got

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to producer Rob Gibson, who's our guy, and he and

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>then we started getting some interest and then we all

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>sat in the room and plotted out the season. But

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>she it all came out of her head, that pilot,

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>really beyond the that initial setup, just that the next

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>bits all sort of came out of her.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Because that's interesting when you're in a relationship with someone

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>who's right for you. You can have emotionally right for you,

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>socially right for you, whatever, but you have also found

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>someone who's creatively right for you.

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's like the pair of you together have got ignition. Yes,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 3>but that's amazing, isn't it really is?

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like extremely lucky. I mean talking about luck, and

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about like a little bit

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>more because I don't disagree with Eric Banner, but also

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I do disagree waiting. Yeah, we're really lucky to find it.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But we made a very concerted decision to be together.

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>But no one's funnier than her. No one makes me

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>laugh more than she does. You know, She's just we

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>all our signaps is line up, and no relationship is perfect.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have all the usual bullshit and we're parents.

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's fucking hard at times, but also it's

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>joyous and we get each other. You know, there's there

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 1>is a real uh, well, we were concerned that there

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be on screen chemistry because we're already you.

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Know, because he didn't have Sometimes there.

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Isn't exactly like we're together, we've already like you know,

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>there's no kind of tension here because we haven't consummated anything.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>It's like we're aready having together. And we were really

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>pleased when there did seem to be chemistry on screen

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>because there is off I don't want to go into

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the details of that, but I mean, we could do

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>an after hours episode when you.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Were falling in love? Now, who fell in love first?

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 3>And how did that? What did that look like?

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>What did because when we when I hear your rattat

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>tat with each other, yeah, sometimes that can be matey,

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean?

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 3>And it can keep it can keep romance at bay.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah it didn't. It didn't. We fell in

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>love at the same time in the same amount at

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same way. I don't know. I couldn't speak

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to that.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>You've never discussed that.

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>No, we we we did. It was it was it

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>was People talk about like conference counts, like how much

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of it is fiction? How much you know? Is it

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>like a peak behind the curtain? And I think a

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>lot of people and we're happy for people to go

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>it is a peak behind the curtain, yeah, because it's not.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>But what it is is what is real is the

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>way that we bounce off each like you just said,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like you do have that electricity together. We enjoy each other,

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that that was the thing that was

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>evident from the get go, you know.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 3>When you were cast as a leading man in Prata.

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, devil what do you call it? I call it

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>devil is prior to too.

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 3>You're a really formal guy.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm very formal about.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 3>It, very formal. How was Harry about that?

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Obviously it was all you know, she was there for

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 2>the process of this is not going to happen.

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 3>This is crazy. Oh they've come back, they would Yeah.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>She was like, like me, couldn't believe it. And as

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I said last night, it was like our

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>first thought was like, how do we make this work?

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Because I have to do it. They've offered it to

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>me as if I'm not going to do it. Oh no,

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you But logistically it was genuinely hard to do. It's

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>not like I had some time on my hands, or

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>she could have taken the kids for a while or

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>something like. We were flat out and so we just

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>had to expand to meet the challenge because I had

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it. She knew I had to, and she

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was very happy for me. But we very and as

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I was for myself, it were very quick to sort

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of bypass that in a way to get straight down

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to the brass tacks about how we're going to make

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it work.

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I think I mean more like that, suddenly my husband

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>is like sexiest man alive.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a bullshit, isn't it.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I know that's bullshit within the context of your relationship.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But through the prism of the outside world. Yes, that's

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a shift that you're not You know you're not Flash

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Gordon anymore.

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Do you know you're not Gordon Crapper.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, crack, crack, sorry crap. I'd never give

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>myself a ridiculous name like Crapper.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely would.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know that's a seismic shift.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It is professionally, yes, but that doesn't enter into it.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>For Harry, like and she's happy for me. We always

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>want the best for each other. But I don't think

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we honestly never talked about that, because it's genuinely not

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I just turned fucking fifty. Like, I'm not a leading man,

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? I'm not, but you

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are a leading But I technically I am technically and also, do.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>You know one of the things I don't want to

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>give a spoiler the sex scene? Mate, Where was.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>The sex scene?

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Where was the sixth scene?

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>There was?

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 3>There was something I.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Knew that was there was, there was there was like

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>after we have a date. Look, when you're putting a

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>film together, things have got to go.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 3>And so Kidney Sweeney went.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah she was. I never met her, but she

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>was apparently the opening sequence, and that was all. And

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it's all for creative reasons, of course, and time and

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>time and all that sort of stuff. And so there

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>are a few scenes that I shot that weren't in

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the movie, and one of them was Annie and I

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>have this dinner date and then we go back to

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>her place and have this you know when we kiss,

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and and that was cut. How was it?

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>How was that?

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It was slightly awkward? You know, we don't know each

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>other a couple.

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Of days, right, she wasn't Annie yet then she was.

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's all the best. But the fact is you

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>still got to kiss each other and make it look

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>like you're falling in love, and it's all pretensies. And

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is it's super famous. Most I've personally

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>been fans for a long long time, so I'm used

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to seeing.

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Her, of course, Yeah, that's right.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Fortunately, I'm used to doing pretenzies, yes, and I'm really

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>pleased that i am, because I can imagine if you're not,

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it might be confusing or something. Well if you Harry

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was used to pretendies as well, Like I have a

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>partner who understands this is what you do. This is acting,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it was awkward and so far and

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that was like, hey, we'll do a care since it's fine,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.959
<v Speaker 1>And it's fine, you know, but it's it's it's just acting.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>As boring as that is, it's it's all it is.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I know that it is just acting.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's very unlikely some's going to be cast

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>opposite and Hathaway, who hasn't acted before, yeah he doesn't know,

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>never know, that could be precarious. Yeah, but what I

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.719
<v Speaker 2>loved last night was that there was a real hunger

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>for and you know, in Australia we hear about talk

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>poppy syndrome, which is fully a thing. I'm not arguing

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>against that, but how did it feel for you last

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>night to be at the cinema that was full of

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Australians and absolutely exultant for you.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>It was joyful and stressful because it was only the

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>second time i'd seen it. Right. The first time was

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like last week at the New York premier World Time.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh you hadn't seen it before.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen it before that. So I'm sitting down

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.959
<v Speaker 1>and I was a little bit like fuck. Like in

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>New York, I was watching it at the Lincoln Center

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's there, you know, like everyone, and but no

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>one's yes, I'm in it, And so I'm like, from

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>my point of view, I'm like, I'm watching it going, Patty,

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>don't ruin it. Okay, you're coming up the scene, Okay,

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you didn't ruin that bet, right next bit, you didn't

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>ruin that bit. So that's kind of how I saw

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it the first time. Second time, I'm like, I know,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay in it. I know the movie is good.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But at the New York one, no one was really

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>concerned about me. Everyone's concerned. And so here I'm the

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>only person from the movie here straight by Aussies, and

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm with my crew of people who've invited all my

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>friends and stuff. And every time I come on the streen,

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like they're like like is everyone else enjoying the movie

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know? So I was seeing it from Australian

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>point of view, and it was it's your home crowd,

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>want them to be happy with you more than.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>But also because there was an there's an integral truth

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>to you that we think we all know that and

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 2>you did not betray that.

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's very hard to do.

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's nice to hear, don't you think I think so.

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I think so. When they let me do an Australian

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>my normal voice, I was like, shit, I hope that works.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope that fits in the movie. But the way

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that they set it up on set and again with Annie,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>she's so kind of like present and playful, like we

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>were able to just be very knock her back and

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>forth in the scene, and I think it showed.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to see the outtakes by the way of.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Which you and and Hathaway, Yeah, we're never going to

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>see those outtakes.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Where are that?

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's got them. There was a whole

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>nother character from that from the movie, like she lived

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with someone else.

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I wondered.

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>In that apartment.

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh really really.

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Funny, And they cut that for whatever creative reason they

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 1>needed to, and that actor.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>She did seem oddly friendless.

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, she Yeah, but she lived with this guy

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>who was like a divorced guy and they were sharing

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>an apartment together and that was part of the reason

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>she moved to her own apart. But they cut it

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>because you have to. You're gonna make these choices. You're

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>going to go, yeah, what is this movie actually about

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it? It's not about that, it's not about that story. It's great,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>but when you're putting it together, you've got to figure

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>out what you know. You've got to figure out what

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is the story you're telling. You can't tell all the stories.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you think now?

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>And obviously there are people that guide your career, Yeah,

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>do you think or you and I imagine you try

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>to keep yourself devoid of expectation about where things will lead. Yes,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 2>but there are certain things that you do that mean

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that you're seeing in a different life. Yeah, and I

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>think this is one of them, definitely.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 3>And so what could that mean?

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>It could mean. It could mean the different sorts of

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>work come up, more work opportunities, higher level, you know,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>professional things. But it's a kind of a dichotomy for me.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Because on the one hand, it's more it's potentially more work.

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>But because I'm middle aged and I have two little kids, yeah,

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I understand that that's more important than anything, you know,

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so and so in a way, I'm like, oh, fuck,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been good if this kind of opportunity happened

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago when I was thirty. But I know

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have been ready, right, I wouldn't have been ready.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I would have got I'm sure I would have got

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>caught up in it and think that it was truly valuable.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course it's valuable. Of course it's amazing.

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't just get anything, but you know the value

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>of other things.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm aware of my In fact, I'm going to die.

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>We're all going to die, like it's funny. But and

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I have tiny people who depend on me, and and

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that's more important than this. And it's fucking great to

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 1>have this, and I need this to have professional satisfaction

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and be able to provide all that sort of stuff

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is very, very important. But I'm not getting the dishes,

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>not running away with the spoon like it would have

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>if this had happened to me earlier.

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Stay with us, because my conversation with Patrick continues.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>After this break.

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>So, you know how you were just talking about, you

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>know you're going to die because of your spoiler alert.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I know that that will be unhappy.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because of the health complications you had from.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Birth that lasted.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>So you were born with a thing called the prune belly.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 2>That was like a few years ago when I was

0:36:55.400 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with faty liver syndrome, a name.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You should have a sexy disease, I just really should.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 3>I got over mine and you got over yours.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>What did it mean for you as a child because

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 2>you had a lot of medical interventions, a lot of surgery.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I was born with this condition. It's in America.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It's called Eagle Barrett syndrome, which is an it's a

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>nice name, and it's a really rare thing and it's

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>really difficult to nail down because it affects the renal system.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And so it was kidney's bladder potentially luves for me.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's in most cases, it's it's boys. Very few

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>girls born with this. Wow. And it's not genetic necessarily.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>They don't know what causes it are what the fuck?

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a series of issues that when you

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>combine them, they give it this label. And in my case,

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I had this giant bladder and it didn't work well,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I had to have a surgery when I

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>was two weeks old to save my life. And there's

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>a in my family, there's this sort of mythical story.

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Was not a myth. It's true that when I was tiny,

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mum and dad were kind of like, what is

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>happening with his child? I'm the third of three kids,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And dad overheard one night the nurses. I was in

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the hospital and Dad overheard the nurse saying to the

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the one who'd been on all day, saying

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to the one to the night shift, the brawm or

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>boy might die tonight, so just you know, be ready

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>for that, just in case. You know. That's that's kind

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of where it's at. And so that obviously I can't

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:31.879
<v Speaker 1>imagine what my dad they went through a lot, and

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>so so so that surgery was life saving when I

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was two weeks old, and and then and I had

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and then I think was it then or maybe slightly

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>later where I had my eurrotus. So the eurrotors come

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>from the kidneys and go to the bladder right, but

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the bladder wasn't doing anything. There was nothing coming out.

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 3>You learned a lot on offscreen, didn't you.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I really did, did. I really went hard on that.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So they they cut the eurotors and then redirected them

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>outside my body, so I had do so the the

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff was coming straight out of the kidneys into the

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>outside my body into bags. Yeah, like a nappy, special

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>nappy that Mum cut up nappies and put them around

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>my waist. And I was like that for like a year.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So I had a bunch of surgery, so I was

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>about ten. And it definitely shaped me in ways I'm

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>unaware of. But I think I mean, I certainly, I

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>mean that's again with luck, like you could say it

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>was really unlucky. I was born with that. But I

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>do feel like it shaped me in a great way.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would change anything if I could,

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was. I think there's a certain vulnerability that

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe point of view. I don't know about point

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of view maybe, but also maybe I think I'm pretty

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>quick to accept circumstances. I'm certainly not the sort of

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>person who will change things that I'm not happy with,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>not not without some doing when.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>You so was it as a result of that that

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't have biological children?

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It was all part of that, Yeah, all tied up.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So I always knew that I wouldn't be able to

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>have kids naturally.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>And then how was that conversation with Harry did that

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 2>come up with she's softening you up with minchew?

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Yah, she knew what she was doing, Minshew. And then

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>we got out like our boy Walter who's now forty

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>eight in human.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Years, Yeah right, he was about fifty actually, And are

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you're compatriots, Yeah.

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's my peer. So she knew from the

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>get gou I couldn't have kids, and she was like,

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>well that's okay, let's see. And then and then as

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>time went on, we were in America and we thought,

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what are we going to do here? Let's look into adoption,

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's a viable option in the States, and it's.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Not unlike here.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Like here, it's really restrictive for all sorts.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 3>Of almost impossible.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, really hard. So it wouldn't have happened for us. Yeah,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>in the States, it's in some ways option is almost

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>an industry, which is problematic in its own way.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>But I've heard Harry say she was the nine months

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 2>gestation with paperwork.

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Yeah, it was before you got Jonie.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was a real exercise in acceptance, letting

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>go of control. Like it's really like, it's not like

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>having a what do you call it? A donor a

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>what do you call it?

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where you go they get a health screening and

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you check the downs and blah blah blah, you've got nothing.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like because you're at least a part of that process. Yeah,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>but this one are you just waiting for the drop

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty much?

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much? And we met the birth mum and we're

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>still in touch with her, and it's really important that

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that we are. And yeah it was. It

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind of crazy. I mean, life fucking unfolds and

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you think you know?

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Because creatively you have birthed many things and people do

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>talk about that all the time.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 3>This is my baby or this is my and now

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>you have a baby.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 3>What what felt different straight away?

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>What felt different when I first became a dad was

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're my number one job. This child

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>is my number one job for life.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>God, it's emotional, it's tolling, Yeah, but why not because.

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It was That's how I felt and how I still feel.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 1>But now she's four and a half and I love

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>her more than anything. It's not just my job, but

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it always will be. But it's my joy as well.

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 3>So much so you went round again, went.

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Around again with Mabel. Yeah, and Mabel's are just over

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>one and and same vibement. She's becoming a person. I

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was starting to see her personality, which is also a

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>joy and an exhausted parenting is fucking amazing. It is

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>because you can be you can be like have undying

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>love for someone that you are incredibly angry with in

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the same breath. Yes, it's fucking weird.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes it's weird, and it's a stretch of you in

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>that's it. Oh, my places that you didn't even know

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>could stretch.

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.919
<v Speaker 1>That's right, it's the stretch, and that's I guess that's

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean when I talked before about if this

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>professional fortune had come earlier, I wouldn't have been ready.

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think being a dad is largely responsible for that.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It stretched me in a way that you don't expect

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to get stretched. You don't want to get stretched, but

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you stretch nonetheless, and you discover what really is important

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and what isn't in some And I'm only a young

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a young dad, but I'm young in my

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>dad journey, you know, Yes, yes, So there's a shipload

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>more for me to stretch and to find out and

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to be broken by. Yes, but you know that's what

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got four kids, and I say all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I've never been a mother before.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Four yeah, four.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact it's my daughter's twenty first today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just going to say, as the dad of

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<v Speaker 2>two girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck, mate, good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also very beautiful. But you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Jamaican Bob sledding for for a bit of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's gonna and girls the spread, boy girl,

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<v Speaker 4>boy boy, oh wow wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because you know, people often say, oh, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a pitch and time to stop, which we did.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy girl, We didn't stop.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't tell your advice. We read it.

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<v Speaker 3>We can cut you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't regret it for a second, although we did.

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<v Speaker 2>My eldest son, Louis, and this one, I'm curious about

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<v Speaker 2>your own health. Thing was diagnosed with leukemia when.

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<v Speaker 3>He was six.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, and he's fine now, but we had

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<v Speaker 2>these four and a half years of like brutal sort

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<v Speaker 2>of intervention or whatever. And I do wonder about the

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<v Speaker 2>effect of what that not only had on.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, but on all of us yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And the family around you, and what how you are

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<v Speaker 2>now when you look at your girls. Hughesy always says

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<v Speaker 2>this thing to me, where he goes, if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your health, you've got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back to that sometimes, yeah, but ultimately true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and there is a lot of truth to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's I mean, fuck, it helps. Having health helps.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, if you've got your life, you've got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's all sorts of degrees of health, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but when you're sick, of course, it has

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<v Speaker 1>an effect. I mean, that's all we have is cause

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<v Speaker 1>and effects. We don't have anything else. There's no like

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<v Speaker 1>overarching meaning, No one gives you a medal for anything

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<v Speaker 1>you do in your life. You know, it's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>cause and effect. And some shit is luck getting lukemia,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad luck me being born the way I was

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<v Speaker 1>Prune really bad luck, bad luck, good luck and good

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<v Speaker 1>luck's great. That Great Bluey episode, that final one you

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<v Speaker 1>see the sign that half an hour and Joe Brown

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<v Speaker 1>is already such a brilliant rider and he puts in

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<v Speaker 1>this you know, what do you call it? Like not analogy,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a lesson in it like an old

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<v Speaker 1>story and an allegory. But it's told to the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea is like you know, someone, something happens like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad luck. Well we'll see, we'll see that. You

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<v Speaker 1>really never know until nothing makes sense to you. Look

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<v Speaker 1>over your shoulder and see what's happened, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the cause and effect. I think. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's good luck and what's bad luck really

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<v Speaker 1>until after it happens. I don't know what effect your

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<v Speaker 1>Son's Lakemi you had on your family. I'm sure going

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<v Speaker 1>through it was a fucking nightmare and broke you all

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<v Speaker 1>in different ways. But you actually, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was a good thing or a bad Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it gives you a capacity to.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel yeah, and I think you are Australia's good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>We're lucky to have you. I'm very happy to have

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<v Speaker 3>you repping us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks mate, don't you think I'm just happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're happy to have you here, And thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for no filter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to have been here. I wish I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get so close to tears. But what are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? It's no filter, it's no filter. It's true

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<v Speaker 1>what they.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, But also why why not be emotional?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I don't know, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're making me tear up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That my friends is Patrick Bramble, And what's so striking

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<v Speaker 2>about him is that, even at this moment, on the

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<v Speaker 2>brink of something that could shift his career in a

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<v Speaker 2>very big way, there's still a sense of steadiness about

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 2>how he sees himself and his life. He's someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>built things slowly, a career, a partnership, a family, and

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<v Speaker 2>now as the rest of the world gets to know him,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like they're being introduced not just to an actor,

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<v Speaker 2>but to someone who's taken the long way to this

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<v Speaker 2>moment and has the experience to know it doesn't define

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<v Speaker 2>him and to know exactly what matters to him beyond it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for listening to No Filter. The

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<v Speaker 2>executive producer of No Filter is Pre Player. The assistant

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<v Speaker 2>producer is Coco Levine. Audio production and video editing by

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Green, Social production by Olivia Coleman. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded at Muma MEA's studios. I'm Kate Langbrook and I

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<v Speaker 2>will see you next Monday