Speaker 1: I wish I didn't get so close to tears, But
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? It's no filter, it's
Speaker 1: no fighting filter. It's true what they say.
Speaker 2: Patrick Brammel is one of those actors Australians feel like
Speaker 2: they know. For more than two decades, he's been a
Speaker 2: familiar presence on our screens, building a career that's been
Speaker 2: steady respected and quietly impressive. But in the last few
Speaker 2: years something has shifted. Alongside his wife, actor and writer
Speaker 2: Harriet Dyer, he co created and starred in Colin from Accounts,
Speaker 2: a show that started as a very specific, very Australian
Speaker 2: story and quickly became a global hit. Off screen, their
Speaker 2: lives are just as intertwined. They write together, act together,
Speaker 2: and are raising a young family. Patrick Brammele is on
Speaker 2: the cusp of something bigger again. He's just been introduced
Speaker 2: to a global audience in a very different way, starring
Speaker 2: as the new life of Interest opposite Anne had the
Speaker 2: Way in the highly anticipated sequel to The Devil Wears Prada,
Speaker 2: a film with a legacy, a fan base, and a
Speaker 2: cultural footprint that's hard to overstate. This conversation was recorded
Speaker 2: the day before the film was released. Before the reviews,
Speaker 2: before the reaction, before the moment where everything potentially changes.
Speaker 2: So today we wanted to understand who Patrick Bramble really is,
Speaker 2: the road that got him here, the life he's built
Speaker 2: along the way, and what it feels like to be
Speaker 2: standing on the edge of something that could change everything.
Speaker 3: Who are you?
Speaker 1: Great question? And let me answer that question with another question.
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 3: I'm Kate Lanebrook So no Filter?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, same? Okay, you've checked made it, You've called
Speaker 1: my bluffield, Well I have. I'm Patrick Bramble, but I'm
Speaker 1: also from no Filter.
Speaker 2: You are from no Filter. And not only that, you're
Speaker 2: now are from the world, from the world. You were
Speaker 2: always from the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was always very much from the world.
Speaker 2: But there's something about Australians and I think when you
Speaker 2: work in the creative endeavor on any front, that we
Speaker 2: know that we are depending on your worldview at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the globe. Yeah, yep, And now you are
Speaker 2: not on the bottom of the globe.
Speaker 1: No, I'm creeping up the side of the globe.
Speaker 3: You really are.
Speaker 1: I don't realize how bottom of the globe you are
Speaker 1: until we travel, and all Australians need to travel like
Speaker 1: we do.
Speaker 3: It's a compulsion you have to because the.
Speaker 1: Rest of the world's out there. I mean, I grew
Speaker 1: up in Canberra, right, and I grew up as this
Speaker 1: is why wave analogy. I grew up thinking it's a
Speaker 1: nation's capital. This is a busy city. Is where it's happened.
Speaker 4: Nations capital is not many people know that, no, And
Speaker 4: then I moved to Sydney when I was what twenty one,
Speaker 4: like proper, and I went, oh, okay, there's actually an
Speaker 4: organic logic to the city, Like it starts at the
Speaker 4: harbor and it spreads out and things make sense on
Speaker 4: a different and I was like, and obviously it's a
Speaker 4: lot busier.
Speaker 1: And then and that's how I felt about going out
Speaker 1: into Europe, into America, you know, and just going, oh,
Speaker 1: things are actually happening here. And let me add a
Speaker 1: wrinkle to that. I'm really pleased we're down here. It
Speaker 1: is such a joy for me, Like Haar and I've
Speaker 1: been based in la for some years and it's just
Speaker 1: such a joy to know that we can come back
Speaker 1: at any moment. Obviously because of the States lately, it's
Speaker 1: just like a dumpster fire in many respects, and it's
Speaker 1: like a lot of American friends are like, thank god,
Speaker 1: you've got an escape patch, you know, yes, And I also,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I do love it over there.
Speaker 1: We've got this place in La and we're very very happy.
Speaker 1: We love that hood and the American people lost for
Speaker 1: Lee Near lost for lep Atwater. So it's lovely and
Speaker 1: it's kind of the least LA place. It's really nice.
Speaker 1: People walk around like for some reason Australians when we
Speaker 1: go to La, we will go to West Hollywood. I
Speaker 1: have no idea why it's mental there. And I lived
Speaker 1: there for like a year or so.
Speaker 3: Stay in West Tolly. What is it the yogurt shops.
Speaker 1: It's the yoga yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it's really
Speaker 1: frenetic there. And then I lived there for like a
Speaker 1: year or so and then I moved out. I was like,
Speaker 1: what the hell was I doing? Hollywood?
Speaker 2: Why did you move? So you got together with Harry.
Speaker 2: Harriet died, so we have to say genius, Oh my
Speaker 2: god to tell you on your part, yes, I.
Speaker 3: Don't understand it from her end.
Speaker 1: No one understands it from her end, no one. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah we got it together.
Speaker 3: You were doing that sketch comedy show. Was that the
Speaker 3: sketch comedy.
Speaker 1: Show Elegant Gentleman's Guy Tonight Fight?
Speaker 3: I thought you were doing Oh what's it called?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no activity, Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a sketch show.
Speaker 2: Well it was funny, Yes, it was fun It was
Speaker 2: a comedy what we call a comedy and and so, yeah,
Speaker 2: Harry was in that.
Speaker 1: But at that time, so I moved over around twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3: Oh did you know what.
Speaker 1: I probably moved about twenty sixteen. I got a pilot
Speaker 1: there in twenty fourteen fifteen, and so I flew over
Speaker 1: there shot that.
Speaker 3: Did you get the pilot from here?
Speaker 1: Interestingly, yes, because I'd never got an American job before.
Speaker 1: And then I did an ABC show here called The
Speaker 1: Strange Calls With It was created by Daily Pierson, who's
Speaker 1: one of the makers of Bluey. He's a genius, and
Speaker 1: he wrote and directed that and we did it with
Speaker 1: Barry Krocker was in it. It was like a really
Speaker 1: Toby trust Love and I played this role. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: did a season novel here on ABC and it was
Speaker 1: well received enough, and then they wanted to make an
Speaker 1: American version of it. And then so they asked me
Speaker 1: to put down a tape for the same role, but Americans. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I did and weirdly got it.
Speaker 3: So when you say American was an American accent?
Speaker 1: American accent? Come on, I'm not doing it. You'll not
Speaker 1: lead me into this Hollywood.
Speaker 3: It's just it's amazing, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible thing for actors when you get put
Speaker 2: on the spot at that.
Speaker 1: This morning, They're like, you do a great Stanley Tucci impression.
Speaker 1: I was like, do I. So here's a challenge, say
Speaker 1: this is Stanley too. I was like, this is like TV.
Speaker 1: What can we say? Well, not really.
Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yeah, great, it's like punctuation.
Speaker 2: So Patrick Brammel, we saw you last night at the
Speaker 2: premiere of Devils Prat.
Speaker 3: It was great. It was great.
Speaker 2: I love just saying old friends meet a new friend,
Speaker 2: which is you. So the world is going to meet
Speaker 2: you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: No, they've already met me.
Speaker 3: They have already met you the meeting.
Speaker 1: The meeting is on Thursday, which is tomorrow, right Thursday.
Speaker 1: When this comes out on Monday, Monday, I've already met me.
Speaker 3: They've met you.
Speaker 1: I'll take this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, please as you how okay? So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw you last night.
Speaker 1: I saw me last night at the premiere Sydney premier.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: I was on the red car growing an interview and
Speaker 1: you interrupted a very important interview and I lost my
Speaker 1: train of thought.
Speaker 3: I said, hello, Braml.
Speaker 1: You said, Hio Brammel, and I went, we'll do the
Speaker 1: tomorrow line Brook. You know I'm doing something else, yeah,
Speaker 1: I and so yes, so he has already opened. Now
Speaker 1: all right, So we had the premier last night, but
Speaker 1: by the time this goes happens correct, people were seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And how does that feel?
Speaker 2: Because even when we were waiting last night for the
Speaker 2: for the movie to start, and we were looking at
Speaker 2: the big screen and there was Meryl Street, ding Ding,
Speaker 2: Anne Hathaway, Annie as you call it, I do, Stanley Chucci,
Speaker 2: he's Italian on boat side.
Speaker 3: Really annoys my husband. By the way, Harry and I
Speaker 3: love that. Ye as well. He got that.
Speaker 2: Now they've dropped it apparently from the new series. He
Speaker 2: doesn't say it anymore any well. The point is we
Speaker 2: know those dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Emily Ding, Emily Dell, the Legacy cast.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, and what are they calling you?
Speaker 1: Just just Australian guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so how does that feel?
Speaker 1: It feels pretty weird. And so when I saw it
Speaker 1: for the first time at the New York premiere the
Speaker 1: other day, that's when I first saw it with and
Speaker 1: I was like, kind of, I didn't do that, because
Speaker 1: that's not a good look looking at something about But
Speaker 1: I was like looking at it, going, don't ruin it.
Speaker 1: Don't ruin it because I speak with the Australian accent.
Speaker 1: I speak just like this. I use the same body
Speaker 1: as well, and the same head, same head, same hair,
Speaker 1: all same shit. And I was a bit like, don't
Speaker 1: ruin the movie, mate, like be in it, be of
Speaker 1: the world. That was what I was most concerned. And
Speaker 1: then I watched I was like, it works. I fit.
Speaker 1: I fit ye. And that's testament to not just me,
Speaker 1: but the writing and the makeup and the I feel
Speaker 1: like I fit in that.
Speaker 2: No one who's watching it is going hold makeup and
Speaker 2: lighting and they're just going Patrick Bramle, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: You know that is Yes, uneasy lies the head that
Speaker 2: wears the crown?
Speaker 1: Heavy, Oh that wears the crown.
Speaker 3: He's so Shakespearean. Wow, I thought it was uneasy.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm sure it's heavy. It's uneasy, he's uneasy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not rewrite the bard Let's deck with the heavy
Speaker 1: as the head that wears the crown.
Speaker 2: Wow, I've been school massively by Hollywood superstar.
Speaker 1: That's right. How does that feel? Really? You like it?
Speaker 3: I don't know if it feels humbling or humiliating.
Speaker 1: It's a fine line.
Speaker 3: But okay, so.
Speaker 2: You were playing an American bizarrely when so Devil Wears
Speaker 2: Prather too very exciting American production of huge, massive production.
Speaker 2: But they didn't want you to be an American.
Speaker 1: No, it was a written I think they went through
Speaker 1: lots of iterations of the character, like who is he?
Speaker 1: Because they wanted there was so much scrutiny on the
Speaker 1: making of this one because the first one is so beloved,
Speaker 1: And I think they went through a bunch of different
Speaker 1: iterations of what you know, Andy's love interest should be,
Speaker 1: and there was like versions of like is it an
Speaker 1: old flame from school? Is it that? And I think
Speaker 1: they took a long time.
Speaker 3: Tim Greenie was never going to get a crack at
Speaker 3: it him and he wasn't going to get a redemption round.
Speaker 1: No, I felt bad. We've never met him, but he
Speaker 1: did his job well, like he's Did that mean we've
Speaker 1: never met him? I meant to say, and it just
Speaker 1: sounded well, are my people and I have not My
Speaker 1: team has not met him. No, I've never met him.
Speaker 1: But his character's function in the first season is to go, hey, Andy,
Speaker 1: you're making a deal with the devil. You've changed. I
Speaker 1: like you the way you are and like at the time,
Speaker 1: and go yeah. But then in the ensuing years people like,
Speaker 1: he's the villain of the film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the passage of time will sometimes do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people love the Andy characters so much, and
Speaker 1: so any kind of negative stuff around her I think
Speaker 1: didn't age. Well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so all these conversations were happening, Yeah, you and you?
Speaker 3: Where were you at this point? Where are you? And
Speaker 3: what's your life?
Speaker 1: What's my life looks at this I was in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It was the first half of last year, and I
Speaker 1: was shooting an Apple show called I think it's called
Speaker 1: Last Scene that's coming out later this year. That's a drama,
Speaker 1: not a laugh in it, like Grieving Father, like dark,
Speaker 1: dark stuff. I'm excited to say that, But I was
Speaker 1: doing that. It was a long ship. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred days shoot. So I'm there in Melvs with Harry
Speaker 1: and our two little daughters.
Speaker 3: And so the new one was really little then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was, she was she was months old. It
Speaker 1: was like from like three months to to like what's
Speaker 1: eight months and and so we're wrapping that up. We're
Speaker 1: a few weeks ay from wrapping that up, and we're
Speaker 1: about to move to Montreal for five months because Harry
Speaker 1: got a job at an American job, the CBS show
Speaker 1: called DMV and that was shooting in Montreal. So we're
Speaker 1: about to move from Melbourne to Montreal with two kids
Speaker 1: and a nanny. And I got a call saying, hey,
Speaker 1: they're having trouble casts in this role and they'd love
Speaker 1: you to put down a tape. And I said, that's
Speaker 1: so lovely. I respectfully won't put down a tape because
Speaker 1: I don't have the time, Like I'm genuinely don't have
Speaker 1: the time to put down a tape, like to put
Speaker 1: down a good tape. You don't want to put down
Speaker 1: something half as you want to put down something good.
Speaker 1: It takes half a day. You're going to learn it.
Speaker 1: You can make it, do the takes because edit it.
Speaker 1: Blah blah, blah and any other time. Secondly, even if
Speaker 1: I got the job, we would then be in Montreal
Speaker 1: and Harry will be on set fifteen hours a day.
Speaker 1: I can't leave it all to the nanny, like, I've
Speaker 1: got to be there, you know.
Speaker 3: And you've got two daughters.
Speaker 1: Have two daughters, and so there's two good reasons why
Speaker 1: I shouldn't put down a tape. The third good reason,
Speaker 1: which I didn't tell anyone at the time, was as
Speaker 1: if they're going to put me in the like, no
Speaker 1: one's going to cast me in that role. And that's
Speaker 1: not me being modest or anything like that. It's surprised
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: I'm looking if I'd not seen it with my own eyes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Was that whole thing last night? I was an elaborate room.
Speaker 1: It was just for you. This is a tri show vibe,
Speaker 1: so I was. I was not being monster or down
Speaker 1: on myself or anything like that. I was just like,
Speaker 1: the chances of me getting that are so small, and
Speaker 1: I don't have the time to spare. So I said no.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, a mutual friend
Speaker 1: at CBS and an executive who I'm friendly with who
Speaker 1: I work with, she contacted me she's best mates with
Speaker 1: the writer with Eleen. Okay, and she said, Eleen and
Speaker 1: David the director, they really love you. They love Colin
Speaker 1: from accounts, and they'd love to get your number to
Speaker 1: talk to you. And I was like really, I said,
Speaker 1: of course, passed on my number. And then I heard
Speaker 1: nothing week and I was like, this is so fucking annoying.
Speaker 1: Like I had already said no to this on my
Speaker 1: own terms. I felt good about it, and then you've
Speaker 1: got yeah, yeah, you know, we want it, and then nothing.
Speaker 1: Of course, something's happening, and then so I let it
Speaker 1: go again. And then I got a text from the
Speaker 1: director from David saying, hey, I know you've already said no,
Speaker 1: but I would really love you to do it.
Speaker 3: You like, how did you get my fucking number?
Speaker 5: Mane?
Speaker 1: I said, no, dude, how many times I have to
Speaker 1: say no to you? And I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 1: And it was a straight up offer. And then so
Speaker 1: oh oh, and I'm maintained that if I had to
Speaker 1: put down a tape, yeah, you wouldn't have got I
Speaker 1: don't think it would have gone it. Yeah right, And
Speaker 1: I don't think I would ever recommend that as a
Speaker 1: as a ployee because it's two high stakes. Like I
Speaker 1: was genuinely not doing it, and then I would have
Speaker 1: loved to have been it. I just didn't think it
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, and for all the reasons I said,
Speaker 1: But anyway I got the offer. Oh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if they had got my tape, that would have gone,
Speaker 1: his tapes here, his tapes here, we'd love him from
Speaker 1: accounts and put it in and gone, who else is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Who else is?
Speaker 2: Because also I I think if you had put a
Speaker 2: tape in, you would have played the character that you
Speaker 2: thought you needed to play. Whereas that's interesting, isn't it?
Speaker 2: So what choice would you have made for him?
Speaker 1: Peter? I would have Well, first I would have done
Speaker 1: American accent because he's written.
Speaker 3: As an American.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Brooklyn Brooklyn. So I was like, shit, got
Speaker 1: to get a good Brooklyn accent. Once they told me.
Speaker 2: The funniest thing I ever had, what os and oils,
Speaker 2: et cetera.
Speaker 1: Really good, And I said, okay, so Brooklyn, is that
Speaker 1: the vibe? And they said no, no, no, no, just do
Speaker 1: it is Australian. That's the relief because we're shooting in
Speaker 1: a few weeks. So yeah, and that's when I realized
Speaker 1: they just loved Colin and they wanted to tap that really.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so and and it's very true to that
Speaker 2: character of you, your relationship with Andy, which is very
Speaker 2: hard to do because the expectations are, yeah, we don't even.
Speaker 3: Know what our expectations are, but we know that they're high.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that's right.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, dangerous, very hard.
Speaker 1: Bread examined, high expectations.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: So that's so true. And so when I got it,
Speaker 1: I was just like, Okay, what's the scene? What are
Speaker 1: we doing in this scene? And everybody like this set
Speaker 1: was actually really relaxed and chill, and David Frankel, the director,
Speaker 1: was extremely laid back. It was just a nice vibe
Speaker 1: on set. It didn't feel like a giant Hollywood right,
Speaker 1: it didn't feel that way. Wow, And now knowing that
Speaker 1: it is a giant Hollywood movie, I wonder if any
Speaker 1: giant Hollywood movie feels like it when you're on set.
Speaker 2: I reckon some of them do, but I think that
Speaker 2: maybe factors down from the filters, down from.
Speaker 3: The leads as well.
Speaker 1: The leads. There's only so so many people who can
Speaker 1: set a culture on set. And David and Alene were
Speaker 1: like awesome, which is like earthy, funny people. And Annie
Speaker 1: was great, super down.
Speaker 3: There a streep and asshole.
Speaker 1: I never met hers, she.
Speaker 2: Was, but I I wondered about that. Actually, you were
Speaker 2: in that big party scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in a big party scene with her and everything.
Speaker 1: But I don't need any of them, No, and my
Speaker 1: character makes an excuse to leave and you don't see
Speaker 1: my character. You don't see me again in that scene.
Speaker 1: And so I didn't get to work with any of them,
Speaker 1: but I did for the two days we shot that
Speaker 1: party scene, I was basically just sitting off set with
Speaker 1: Annie and Stanley and Emily and Justin throu and bj Novak. Oh,
Speaker 1: so it was like hanging out with the cool kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like except all the cool kids are multimillionaire famous people. Well,
Speaker 1: I had a lot to offer the conversation.
Speaker 2: So this is a very interesting thing because you have
Speaker 2: been an actor in Australia with a lot of success. Yes,
Speaker 2: and some of that is luck.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is luck.
Speaker 2: And some of that is also I remember Eric Banner
Speaker 2: saying this thing, actually there's no so he gets annoyed
Speaker 2: by the luck thing his dad or seed. It's actually
Speaker 2: preparedness and then an opportunity knocks and then that's how you.
Speaker 3: Make the most of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but my point is a lot of actors in
Speaker 2: Australia don't get to work the way that you have
Speaker 2: gotten to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the next the extrapolation of that is that hardly
Speaker 2: anybody gets to make a project and that it has
Speaker 2: the knock on that Colin from Accounts has had. I know,
Speaker 2: I know that's extraordinary because it's so it's written in
Speaker 2: an Australian voice. Yeah, and it's written with these characters
Speaker 2: that are so misshapen and beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Very you fall in love with them, it's really nice.
Speaker 1: Well, Harry and I fell in love with them, like
Speaker 1: those characters in that world. Like we love that world.
Speaker 1: We love it and that's why we take such joy
Speaker 1: in doing it and we have a really shared singular
Speaker 1: point of view about it as well. I think that's
Speaker 1: a big part of why that show works because Been
Speaker 1: and fox Tell, who are the you know, local commissioners,
Speaker 1: They've been really of hands off. They don't give a
Speaker 1: lot of notes. They just let us kind of do
Speaker 1: our thing, and it's a huge credit. It's a wonderful
Speaker 1: thing that they've done because they let us just do
Speaker 1: our weird shit. And in first season we were like,
Speaker 1: we had no notion that it would be as successful
Speaker 1: as it turned out to be, but we were like
Speaker 1: satisfied with it. We were like not self satisfied. We
Speaker 1: were like, we've given it everything. We have made the
Speaker 1: show that we wanted to make. I don't know how
Speaker 1: this is going to go. You never fucking know, but
Speaker 1: we're happy with it, Like we think it's good and
Speaker 1: you know, it took off in a way that we've done.
Speaker 3: How did it come out of Harry's brain?
Speaker 1: We were chucking the idea around a bunch, the idea
Speaker 1: that meet cute idea that the meeting in the flash
Speaker 1: and nipple.
Speaker 3: Hitting so not cute.
Speaker 1: Americans. Oh my god, that's what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: it's the sort of thing where people are like, I
Speaker 1: don't think you'd ever come up with that by committee,
Speaker 1: you know, to be like no boob is and maybe
Speaker 1: a bit much hitting a.
Speaker 3: Dog, yeah, naming a.
Speaker 1: Dog, naming a dog and even selling that show in America.
Speaker 1: It's like the dogs fine, everyone, the dogs fine, because
Speaker 1: the America is like, what they hit a dog? What Yeah,
Speaker 1: And also the title Colin from Accounts. It put a
Speaker 1: lot of people off the right. I know what this is.
Speaker 3: It's a workplace called I think you're Colin from account Yes.
Speaker 1: I've had an interview very recently where they said, anyway, Colin,
Speaker 1: because I heard.
Speaker 2: Andy when you did a conversation with Andy Richter, who
Speaker 2: was Conan's right hand die for a long time, he
Speaker 2: said his wife couldn't watch.
Speaker 1: It because of the dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember she was like I'm out, Yes, that's right,
Speaker 1: and that's the that's what she get.
Speaker 2: Start of the series, So risky more with Patrick after
Speaker 2: this short break. So where was Harry in her life
Speaker 2: with you? When she we were in LA and so
Speaker 2: I was set up there.
Speaker 1: I think i'd like gone, hey, I'm definitely here from
Speaker 1: about twenty sixteen, and he was doing other stuff here
Speaker 1: in Australia and she came over and so I think
Speaker 1: it was around twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: For them, Please please thank you.
Speaker 3: I know what that is. Well, you're too damn hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Set off the alarm.
Speaker 1: Disregard it.
Speaker 3: I'm disregarding regards very hard to disregard.
Speaker 1: It's hard. Now, I was happy to disregarded before you
Speaker 1: mentioned anything.
Speaker 3: It hard for me to disregard the hotness. Yeah, fair enough, yeah,
Speaker 3: fair enough. What should I do?
Speaker 1: Just be what you're doing. It's good, it's working, all right,
Speaker 1: Harissa always saying about her. Oh yeah, so it's twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she gone over, she come over to LA and.
Speaker 1: I was working on the US version of No Activity,
Speaker 1: which we did on Sketch the Skets Show, the famous
Speaker 1: sket Show, And we were doing a version of that
Speaker 1: which is awesome in America, which nobody saw. And so
Speaker 1: I was busy with that, and she was bouncing off
Speaker 1: the walls waiting for work, you know, waiting to get
Speaker 1: use some momentum.
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to work there? By the way, was
Speaker 3: she allowed to work? Then?
Speaker 1: Yeah? She has complications or maybe she had a visa
Speaker 1: at that time green, because that's how whole finac Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's yeah, that's it. That's a whole racket.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got green cars. It was all. It
Speaker 1: was all fine. But anyway, until she got any work,
Speaker 1: which she ultimately got heaps of work over there, she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, she was going stir crazy and and
Speaker 1: we were living in this tiny apartment and she had
Speaker 1: talked me into fostering a dog, and this is yeah,
Speaker 1: this is fucking real, Like I always forget this. And
Speaker 1: so we went down to the local thing. It was
Speaker 1: like adopt a dog or foster dog day, and there
Speaker 1: was this one called Minchew, which is a terrible name,
Speaker 1: and it was this shitty looking dog and they were like,
Speaker 1: this is a problem dog. You know, it's got issues,
Speaker 1: and how I was like, I know, dogs don't want
Speaker 1: to like, do you, because I don't know. Do I
Speaker 1: gret with cats? Not really? She talks a big game
Speaker 1: and soort of like, you know, Minshew's been bullied by
Speaker 1: all the dogs and stuff. So and she's like, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. So we took Minshew home and the first
Speaker 1: thing we did was go, let's change that name and
Speaker 1: and basically like in the first episode of season one,
Speaker 1: we had that back and forth and named him Colin
Speaker 1: from Accounts this dog and then we're like, oh so Colin.
Speaker 1: And it was fun for a couple of days, and
Speaker 1: then he started resource guarding like he would like he'd
Speaker 1: get a sock or something and be a that's.
Speaker 5: Myself, look at you like that that was what was
Speaker 5: the cut of his jib by the way, scruffy, scruff
Speaker 5: It was a bit scruff dog, poor little fella, and
Speaker 5: he was like just and he was like holding Harry hostage,
Speaker 5: like she could come out of the bathroom and she.
Speaker 3: Was was she his? Yeah, So he didn't dig on you,
Speaker 3: he didn't.
Speaker 1: Dig on me, and he wasn't a happy camper and
Speaker 1: ultimately we had to take him back to that place.
Speaker 1: So we're really sorry. And Harry kept track of him
Speaker 1: and he was put in a place with someone who
Speaker 1: was really good at rehabilitating dogs. Fine, who cares. And
Speaker 1: then so anyway, so that happened, and then it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you write this idea, you know? And then
Speaker 1: so she went away that we've been talking about. But
Speaker 1: then she went away to this place called Charlie's. It
Speaker 1: was this setup that's still in la called Australians in
Speaker 1: Film and it's like for Australians over there, run by
Speaker 1: some big hearted geniuses there Aussi's Yeah, Peter Richie is
Speaker 1: a guy over there who runs it. And it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: come in, we've got a little space here if anyone's
Speaker 1: to come in and do work. Or anything, or meet
Speaker 1: other people, meet other Australians, make contacts. So Harry went
Speaker 1: in there with her laptop on the Monday, spent all
Speaker 1: of Monday installing final drafts on her computer and getting
Speaker 1: and like taking the sims off her confound. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: took a whole day. She came back, how's it going.
Speaker 1: She's like, I think I've got final draft now the
Speaker 1: writing software. And then was Thursday Friday. She wrote the
Speaker 1: fucking pilot it and came back and showed it and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is one of.
Speaker 3: Three days, four days.
Speaker 1: Before, so she didn't know that you write a great
Speaker 1: agony and meant to agonize over it yourself and you know,
Speaker 1: put it off. And it was really funny and it
Speaker 1: was like the bones of the pilot never changed from
Speaker 1: what she wrote really, and then you know, we got
Speaker 1: to producer Rob Gibson, who's our guy, and he and
Speaker 1: then we started getting some interest and then we all
Speaker 1: sat in the room and plotted out the season. But
Speaker 1: she it all came out of her head, that pilot,
Speaker 1: really beyond the that initial setup, just that the next
Speaker 1: bits all sort of came out of her.
Speaker 2: Because that's interesting when you're in a relationship with someone
Speaker 2: who's right for you. You can have emotionally right for you,
Speaker 2: socially right for you, whatever, but you have also found
Speaker 2: someone who's creatively right for you.
Speaker 3: And it's like the pair of you together have got ignition. Yes,
Speaker 3: but that's amazing, isn't it really is?
Speaker 1: It's like extremely lucky. I mean talking about luck, and
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about like a little bit
Speaker 1: more because I don't disagree with Eric Banner, but also
Speaker 1: I do disagree waiting. Yeah, we're really lucky to find it.
Speaker 1: But we made a very concerted decision to be together.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: But no one's funnier than her. No one makes me
Speaker 1: laugh more than she does. You know, She's just we
Speaker 1: all our signaps is line up, and no relationship is perfect.
Speaker 1: Of course, we have all the usual bullshit and we're parents.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's fucking hard at times, but also it's
Speaker 1: joyous and we get each other. You know, there's there
Speaker 1: is a real uh, well, we were concerned that there
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on screen chemistry because we're already you.
Speaker 3: Know, because he didn't have Sometimes there.
Speaker 1: Isn't exactly like we're together, we've already like you know,
Speaker 1: there's no kind of tension here because we haven't consummated anything.
Speaker 1: It's like we're aready having together. And we were really
Speaker 1: pleased when there did seem to be chemistry on screen
Speaker 1: because there is off I don't want to go into
Speaker 1: the details of that, but I mean, we could do
Speaker 1: an after hours episode when you.
Speaker 3: Were falling in love? Now, who fell in love first?
Speaker 3: And how did that? What did that look like?
Speaker 2: What did because when we when I hear your rattat
Speaker 2: tat with each other, yeah, sometimes that can be matey,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And it can keep it can keep romance at bay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it didn't. It didn't. We fell in
Speaker 1: love at the same time in the same amount at
Speaker 1: exactly the same way. I don't know. I couldn't speak
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 3: You've never discussed that.
Speaker 1: No, we we we did. It was it was it
Speaker 1: was People talk about like conference counts, like how much
Speaker 1: of it is fiction? How much you know? Is it
Speaker 1: like a peak behind the curtain? And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people and we're happy for people to go
Speaker 1: it is a peak behind the curtain, yeah, because it's not.
Speaker 1: But what it is is what is real is the
Speaker 1: way that we bounce off each like you just said,
Speaker 1: like you do have that electricity together. We enjoy each other,
Speaker 1: you know, and that that was the thing that was
Speaker 1: evident from the get go, you know.
Speaker 3: When you were cast as a leading man in Prata.
Speaker 1: Yeah, devil what do you call it? I call it
Speaker 1: devil is prior to too.
Speaker 3: You're a really formal guy.
Speaker 1: I'm very formal about.
Speaker 3: It, very formal. How was Harry about that?
Speaker 2: Obviously it was all you know, she was there for
Speaker 2: the process of this is not going to happen.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. Oh they've come back, they would Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was like, like me, couldn't believe it. And as
Speaker 1: I think I said last night, it was like our
Speaker 1: first thought was like, how do we make this work?
Speaker 1: Because I have to do it. They've offered it to
Speaker 1: me as if I'm not going to do it. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you But logistically it was genuinely hard to do. It's
Speaker 1: not like I had some time on my hands, or
Speaker 1: she could have taken the kids for a while or
Speaker 1: something like. We were flat out and so we just
Speaker 1: had to expand to meet the challenge because I had
Speaker 1: to do it. She knew I had to, and she
Speaker 1: was very happy for me. But we very and as
Speaker 1: I was for myself, it were very quick to sort
Speaker 1: of bypass that in a way to get straight down
Speaker 1: to the brass tacks about how we're going to make
Speaker 1: it work.
Speaker 3: I think I mean more like that, suddenly my husband
Speaker 3: is like sexiest man alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bullshit, isn't it.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, I know that's bullshit within the context of your relationship.
Speaker 2: But through the prism of the outside world. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: a shift that you're not You know you're not Flash
Speaker 2: Gordon anymore.
Speaker 3: Do you know you're not Gordon Crapper.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, crack, crack, sorry crap. I'd never give
Speaker 1: myself a ridiculous name like Crapper.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I absolutely would.
Speaker 3: But you know that's a seismic shift.
Speaker 1: It is professionally, yes, but that doesn't enter into it.
Speaker 1: For Harry, like and she's happy for me. We always
Speaker 1: want the best for each other. But I don't think
Speaker 1: we honestly never talked about that, because it's genuinely not
Speaker 1: I just turned fucking fifty. Like, I'm not a leading man,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? I'm not, but you
Speaker 1: are a leading But I technically I am technically and also, do.
Speaker 3: You know one of the things I don't want to
Speaker 3: give a spoiler the sex scene? Mate, Where was.
Speaker 1: The sex scene?
Speaker 3: Where was the sixth scene?
Speaker 1: There was?
Speaker 3: There was something I.
Speaker 1: Knew that was there was, there was there was like
Speaker 1: after we have a date. Look, when you're putting a
Speaker 1: film together, things have got to go.
Speaker 3: And so Kidney Sweeney went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah she was. I never met her, but she
Speaker 1: was apparently the opening sequence, and that was all. And
Speaker 1: it's all for creative reasons, of course, and time and
Speaker 1: time and all that sort of stuff. And so there
Speaker 1: are a few scenes that I shot that weren't in
Speaker 1: the movie, and one of them was Annie and I
Speaker 1: have this dinner date and then we go back to
Speaker 1: her place and have this you know when we kiss,
Speaker 1: and and that was cut. How was it?
Speaker 3: How was that?
Speaker 1: It was slightly awkward? You know, we don't know each
Speaker 1: other a couple.
Speaker 2: Of days, right, she wasn't Annie yet then she was.
Speaker 1: And that's all the best. But the fact is you
Speaker 1: still got to kiss each other and make it look
Speaker 1: like you're falling in love, and it's all pretensies. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is it's super famous. Most I've personally
Speaker 1: been fans for a long long time, so I'm used
Speaker 1: to seeing.
Speaker 3: Her, of course, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Fortunately, I'm used to doing pretenzies, yes, and I'm really
Speaker 1: pleased that i am, because I can imagine if you're not,
Speaker 1: it might be confusing or something. Well if you Harry
Speaker 1: was used to pretendies as well, Like I have a
Speaker 1: partner who understands this is what you do. This is acting,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was awkward and so far and
Speaker 1: that was like, hey, we'll do a care since it's fine,
Speaker 1: And it's fine, you know, but it's it's it's just acting.
Speaker 1: As boring as that is, it's it's all it is.
Speaker 3: I know that it is just acting.
Speaker 2: I mean it's very unlikely some's going to be cast
Speaker 2: opposite and Hathaway, who hasn't acted before, yeah he doesn't know,
Speaker 2: never know, that could be precarious. Yeah, but what I
Speaker 2: loved last night was that there was a real hunger
Speaker 2: for and you know, in Australia we hear about talk
Speaker 2: poppy syndrome, which is fully a thing. I'm not arguing
Speaker 2: against that, but how did it feel for you last
Speaker 2: night to be at the cinema that was full of
Speaker 2: Australians and absolutely exultant for you.
Speaker 1: It was joyful and stressful because it was only the
Speaker 1: second time i'd seen it. Right. The first time was
Speaker 1: like last week at the New York premier World Time.
Speaker 3: Oh you hadn't seen it before.
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it before that. So I'm sitting down
Speaker 1: and I was a little bit like fuck. Like in
Speaker 1: New York, I was watching it at the Lincoln Center
Speaker 1: and everyone's there, you know, like everyone, and but no
Speaker 1: one's yes, I'm in it, And so I'm like, from
Speaker 1: my point of view, I'm like, I'm watching it going, Patty,
Speaker 1: don't ruin it. Okay, you're coming up the scene, Okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't ruin that bet, right next bit, you didn't
Speaker 1: ruin that bit. So that's kind of how I saw
Speaker 1: it the first time. Second time, I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm okay in it. I know the movie is good.
Speaker 1: But at the New York one, no one was really
Speaker 1: concerned about me. Everyone's concerned. And so here I'm the
Speaker 1: only person from the movie here straight by Aussies, and
Speaker 1: I'm with my crew of people who've invited all my
Speaker 1: friends and stuff. And every time I come on the streen,
Speaker 1: like they're like like is everyone else enjoying the movie
Speaker 1: like you know? So I was seeing it from Australian
Speaker 1: point of view, and it was it's your home crowd,
Speaker 1: want them to be happy with you more than.
Speaker 2: But also because there was an there's an integral truth
Speaker 2: to you that we think we all know that and
Speaker 2: you did not betray that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's very hard to do.
Speaker 1: Well, that's nice to hear, don't you think I think so.
Speaker 1: I think so. When they let me do an Australian
Speaker 1: my normal voice, I was like, shit, I hope that works.
Speaker 1: I hope that fits in the movie. But the way
Speaker 1: that they set it up on set and again with Annie,
Speaker 1: she's so kind of like present and playful, like we
Speaker 1: were able to just be very knock her back and
Speaker 1: forth in the scene, and I think it showed.
Speaker 3: I want to see the outtakes by the way of.
Speaker 1: Which you and and Hathaway, Yeah, we're never going to
Speaker 1: see those outtakes.
Speaker 3: Where are that?
Speaker 1: I don't know who's got them. There was a whole
Speaker 1: nother character from that from the movie, like she lived
Speaker 1: with someone else.
Speaker 3: Oh, I wondered.
Speaker 1: In that apartment.
Speaker 3: Oh really really.
Speaker 1: Funny, And they cut that for whatever creative reason they
Speaker 1: needed to, and that actor.
Speaker 3: She did seem oddly friendless.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she Yeah, but she lived with this guy
Speaker 1: who was like a divorced guy and they were sharing
Speaker 1: an apartment together and that was part of the reason
Speaker 1: she moved to her own apart. But they cut it
Speaker 1: because you have to. You're gonna make these choices. You're
Speaker 1: going to go, yeah, what is this movie actually about
Speaker 1: it? It's not about that, it's not about that story. It's great,
Speaker 1: but when you're putting it together, you've got to figure
Speaker 1: out what you know. You've got to figure out what
Speaker 1: is the story you're telling. You can't tell all the stories.
Speaker 3: Do you think now?
Speaker 2: And obviously there are people that guide your career, Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you think or you and I imagine you try
Speaker 2: to keep yourself devoid of expectation about where things will lead. Yes,
Speaker 2: but there are certain things that you do that mean
Speaker 2: that you're seeing in a different life. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: think this is one of them, definitely.
Speaker 3: And so what could that mean?
Speaker 1: It could mean. It could mean the different sorts of
Speaker 1: work come up, more work opportunities, higher level, you know,
Speaker 1: professional things. But it's a kind of a dichotomy for me.
Speaker 1: Because on the one hand, it's more it's potentially more work.
Speaker 1: But because I'm middle aged and I have two little kids, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that that's more important than anything, you know,
Speaker 1: so and so in a way, I'm like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been good if this kind of opportunity happened
Speaker 1: twenty years ago when I was thirty. But I know
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been ready, right, I wouldn't have been ready.
Speaker 1: I would have got I'm sure I would have got
Speaker 1: caught up in it and think that it was truly valuable.
Speaker 1: Of course it's valuable. Of course it's amazing.
Speaker 3: I don't just get anything, but you know the value
Speaker 3: of other things.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm aware of my In fact, I'm going to die.
Speaker 1: We're all going to die, like it's funny. But and
Speaker 1: I have tiny people who depend on me, and and
Speaker 1: that's more important than this. And it's fucking great to
Speaker 1: have this, and I need this to have professional satisfaction
Speaker 1: and be able to provide all that sort of stuff
Speaker 1: is very, very important. But I'm not getting the dishes,
Speaker 1: not running away with the spoon like it would have
Speaker 1: if this had happened to me earlier.
Speaker 2: Stay with us, because my conversation with Patrick continues.
Speaker 3: After this break.
Speaker 2: So, you know how you were just talking about, you
Speaker 2: know you're going to die because of your spoiler alert.
Speaker 3: I know that that will be unhappy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the health complications you had from.
Speaker 3: Birth that lasted.
Speaker 2: So you were born with a thing called the prune belly.
Speaker 2: That was like a few years ago when I was
Speaker 2: diagnosed with faty liver syndrome, a name.
Speaker 1: You should have a sexy disease, I just really should.
Speaker 3: I got over mine and you got over yours.
Speaker 2: What did it mean for you as a child because
Speaker 2: you had a lot of medical interventions, a lot of surgery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was born with this condition. It's in America.
Speaker 1: It's called Eagle Barrett syndrome, which is an it's a
Speaker 1: nice name, and it's a really rare thing and it's
Speaker 1: really difficult to nail down because it affects the renal system.
Speaker 1: And so it was kidney's bladder potentially luves for me.
Speaker 1: It's it's in most cases, it's it's boys. Very few
Speaker 1: girls born with this. Wow. And it's not genetic necessarily.
Speaker 1: They don't know what causes it are what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And so it's a series of issues that when you
Speaker 1: combine them, they give it this label. And in my case,
Speaker 1: I had this giant bladder and it didn't work well,
Speaker 1: and so I had to have a surgery when I
Speaker 1: was two weeks old to save my life. And there's
Speaker 1: a in my family, there's this sort of mythical story.
Speaker 1: Was not a myth. It's true that when I was tiny,
Speaker 1: and Mum and dad were kind of like, what is
Speaker 1: happening with his child? I'm the third of three kids,
Speaker 1: And dad overheard one night the nurses. I was in
Speaker 1: the hospital and Dad overheard the nurse saying to the
Speaker 1: you know, the one who'd been on all day, saying
Speaker 1: to the one to the night shift, the brawm or
Speaker 1: boy might die tonight, so just you know, be ready
Speaker 1: for that, just in case. You know. That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of where it's at. And so that obviously I can't
Speaker 1: imagine what my dad they went through a lot, and
Speaker 1: so so so that surgery was life saving when I
Speaker 1: was two weeks old, and and then and I had
Speaker 1: and then I think was it then or maybe slightly
Speaker 1: later where I had my eurrotus. So the eurrotors come
Speaker 1: from the kidneys and go to the bladder right, but
Speaker 1: the bladder wasn't doing anything. There was nothing coming out.
Speaker 3: You learned a lot on offscreen, didn't you.
Speaker 1: I really did, did. I really went hard on that.
Speaker 1: So they they cut the eurotors and then redirected them
Speaker 1: outside my body, so I had do so the the
Speaker 1: stuff was coming straight out of the kidneys into the
Speaker 1: outside my body into bags. Yeah, like a nappy, special
Speaker 1: nappy that Mum cut up nappies and put them around
Speaker 1: my waist. And I was like that for like a year.
Speaker 1: So I had a bunch of surgery, so I was
Speaker 1: about ten. And it definitely shaped me in ways I'm
Speaker 1: unaware of. But I think I mean, I certainly, I
Speaker 1: mean that's again with luck, like you could say it
Speaker 1: was really unlucky. I was born with that. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like it shaped me in a great way.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would change anything if I could,
Speaker 1: because it was. I think there's a certain vulnerability that
Speaker 1: maybe maybe point of view. I don't know about point
Speaker 1: of view maybe, but also maybe I think I'm pretty
Speaker 1: quick to accept circumstances. I'm certainly not the sort of
Speaker 1: person who will change things that I'm not happy with,
Speaker 1: not not without some doing when.
Speaker 3: You so was it as a result of that that
Speaker 3: you couldn't have biological children?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was all part of that, Yeah, all tied up.
Speaker 1: So I always knew that I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: have kids naturally.
Speaker 2: And then how was that conversation with Harry did that
Speaker 2: come up with she's softening you up with minchew?
Speaker 1: Yah, she knew what she was doing, Minshew. And then
Speaker 1: we got out like our boy Walter who's now forty
Speaker 1: eight in human.
Speaker 2: Years, Yeah right, he was about fifty actually, And are
Speaker 2: you're compatriots, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's my peer. So she knew from the
Speaker 1: get gou I couldn't have kids, and she was like,
Speaker 1: well that's okay, let's see. And then and then as
Speaker 1: time went on, we were in America and we thought,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do here? Let's look into adoption,
Speaker 1: because that's that's a viable option in the States, and it's.
Speaker 3: Not unlike here.
Speaker 1: Like here, it's really restrictive for all sorts.
Speaker 3: Of almost impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really hard. So it wouldn't have happened for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the States, it's in some ways option is almost
Speaker 1: an industry, which is problematic in its own way.
Speaker 2: But I've heard Harry say she was the nine months
Speaker 2: gestation with paperwork.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, it was before you got Jonie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a real exercise in acceptance, letting
Speaker 1: go of control. Like it's really like, it's not like
Speaker 1: having a what do you call it? A donor a
Speaker 1: what do you call it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you go they get a health screening and
Speaker 1: you check the downs and blah blah blah, you've got nothing.
Speaker 2: It's like because you're at least a part of that process. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this one are you just waiting for the drop
Speaker 2: pretty much?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? And we met the birth mum and we're
Speaker 1: still in touch with her, and it's really important that
Speaker 1: I think that we are. And yeah it was. It
Speaker 1: was kind of crazy. I mean, life fucking unfolds and
Speaker 1: what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Do you think you know?
Speaker 2: Because creatively you have birthed many things and people do
Speaker 2: talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3: This is my baby or this is my and now
Speaker 3: you have a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What what felt different straight away?
Speaker 1: What felt different when I first became a dad was
Speaker 1: I was like, you're my number one job. This child
Speaker 1: is my number one job for life.
Speaker 2: God, it's emotional, it's tolling, Yeah, but why not because.
Speaker 1: It was That's how I felt and how I still feel.
Speaker 1: But now she's four and a half and I love
Speaker 1: her more than anything. It's not just my job, but
Speaker 1: it always will be. But it's my joy as well.
Speaker 3: So much so you went round again, went.
Speaker 1: Around again with Mabel. Yeah, and Mabel's are just over
Speaker 1: one and and same vibement. She's becoming a person. I
Speaker 1: was starting to see her personality, which is also a
Speaker 1: joy and an exhausted parenting is fucking amazing. It is
Speaker 1: because you can be you can be like have undying
Speaker 1: love for someone that you are incredibly angry with in
Speaker 1: the same breath. Yes, it's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Yes it's weird, and it's a stretch of you in
Speaker 2: that's it. Oh, my places that you didn't even know
Speaker 2: could stretch.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's the stretch, and that's I guess that's
Speaker 1: what I mean when I talked before about if this
Speaker 1: professional fortune had come earlier, I wouldn't have been ready.
Speaker 1: And I think being a dad is largely responsible for that.
Speaker 1: It stretched me in a way that you don't expect
Speaker 1: to get stretched. You don't want to get stretched, but
Speaker 1: you stretch nonetheless, and you discover what really is important
Speaker 1: and what isn't in some And I'm only a young
Speaker 1: I'm not a young dad, but I'm young in my
Speaker 1: dad journey, you know, Yes, yes, So there's a shipload
Speaker 1: more for me to stretch and to find out and
Speaker 1: to be broken by. Yes, but you know that's what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Well, I got four kids, and I say all the time,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never been a mother before.
Speaker 3: We don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Four yeah, four.
Speaker 2: And in fact it's my daughter's twenty first today.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And I'm just going to say, as the dad of
Speaker 2: two girls.
Speaker 3: Good luck, mate, good luck.
Speaker 2: But it's also very beautiful. But you're going to be
Speaker 2: Jamaican Bob sledding for for a bit of it.
Speaker 4: You know it's gonna and girls the spread, boy girl,
Speaker 4: boy boy, oh wow wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you know, people often say, oh, you've got
Speaker 2: a pitch and time to stop, which we did.
Speaker 3: Boy girl, We didn't stop.
Speaker 1: You didn't tell your advice. We read it.
Speaker 3: We can cut you know what.
Speaker 2: I don't regret it for a second, although we did.
Speaker 2: My eldest son, Louis, and this one, I'm curious about
Speaker 2: your own health. Thing was diagnosed with leukemia when.
Speaker 3: He was six.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and he's fine now, but we had
Speaker 2: these four and a half years of like brutal sort
Speaker 2: of intervention or whatever. And I do wonder about the
Speaker 2: effect of what that not only had on.
Speaker 3: Him, but on all of us yep.
Speaker 2: And the family around you, and what how you are
Speaker 2: now when you look at your girls. Hughesy always says
Speaker 2: this thing to me, where he goes, if you've got
Speaker 2: your health, you've got everything.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Hard to.
Speaker 2: Come back to that sometimes, yeah, but ultimately true.
Speaker 1: Yes, and there is a lot of truth to it,
Speaker 1: but it's I mean, fuck, it helps. Having health helps.
Speaker 1: But basically, if you've got your life, you've got everything.
Speaker 1: You know, there's all sorts of degrees of health, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, but when you're sick, of course, it has
Speaker 1: an effect. I mean, that's all we have is cause
Speaker 1: and effects. We don't have anything else. There's no like
Speaker 1: overarching meaning, No one gives you a medal for anything
Speaker 1: you do in your life. You know, it's it's just
Speaker 1: cause and effect. And some shit is luck getting lukemia,
Speaker 1: it's bad luck me being born the way I was
Speaker 1: Prune really bad luck, bad luck, good luck and good
Speaker 1: luck's great. That Great Bluey episode, that final one you
Speaker 1: see the sign that half an hour and Joe Brown
Speaker 1: is already such a brilliant rider and he puts in
Speaker 1: this you know, what do you call it? Like not analogy,
Speaker 1: like a like a lesson in it like an old
Speaker 1: story and an allegory. But it's told to the kids,
Speaker 1: and the idea is like you know, someone, something happens like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's bad luck. Well we'll see, we'll see that. You
Speaker 1: really never know until nothing makes sense to you. Look
Speaker 1: over your shoulder and see what's happened, and then you
Speaker 1: can see the cause and effect. I think. But you
Speaker 1: don't know what's good luck and what's bad luck really
Speaker 1: until after it happens. I don't know what effect your
Speaker 1: Son's Lakemi you had on your family. I'm sure going
Speaker 1: through it was a fucking nightmare and broke you all
Speaker 1: in different ways. But you actually, I don't think you
Speaker 1: know if it was a good thing or a bad Well.
Speaker 3: I do think it gives you a capacity to.
Speaker 2: Feel yeah, and I think you are Australia's good luck.
Speaker 3: We're lucky to have you. I'm very happy to have
Speaker 3: you repping us.
Speaker 1: Thanks mate, don't you think I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 3: And we're happy to have you here, And thank you
Speaker 3: for no filter.
Speaker 1: It's nice to have been here. I wish I didn't
Speaker 1: get so close to tears. But what are you going
Speaker 1: to do? It's no filter, it's no filter. It's true
Speaker 1: what they.
Speaker 3: Say, But also why why not be emotional?
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know, it's all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're making me tear up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 2: That my friends is Patrick Bramble, And what's so striking
Speaker 2: about him is that, even at this moment, on the
Speaker 2: brink of something that could shift his career in a
Speaker 2: very big way, there's still a sense of steadiness about
Speaker 2: how he sees himself and his life. He's someone who's
Speaker 2: built things slowly, a career, a partnership, a family, and
Speaker 2: now as the rest of the world gets to know him,
Speaker 2: it feels like they're being introduced not just to an actor,
Speaker 2: but to someone who's taken the long way to this
Speaker 2: moment and has the experience to know it doesn't define
Speaker 2: him and to know exactly what matters to him beyond it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to No Filter. The
Speaker 2: executive producer of No Filter is Pre Player. The assistant
Speaker 2: producer is Coco Levine. Audio production and video editing by
Speaker 2: Josh Green, Social production by Olivia Coleman. This episode was
Speaker 2: recorded at Muma MEA's studios. I'm Kate Langbrook and I
Speaker 2: will see you next Monday