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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 1: to MoMA Mia. Out Loud. What women are really talking about?

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Speaker 1: What women are.

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Speaker 2: Actually talking about. It's the last show of the year

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Speaker 2: and I've forgotten.

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Speaker 1: What we do. That's fine, what' psychos? Yeah, it's what

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Speaker 1: women are actually talking about.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, the nineteenth of December, out louders, this is

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Speaker 2: your last normal programming show for twenty twenty five. Over

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Speaker 2: the summer, there are going to be lots of little

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Speaker 2: treats dropping in your feed, including, of course our iconic

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Speaker 2: word of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Episode Yes Yes, and some very exciting recommendation episodes where

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Speaker 3: we give you additional recommendations for the summer period.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So all of that is happening.

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Speaker 2: But this is our last regular show for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and it's a unique one because this Friday, at the

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Speaker 2: end of an emotional and intensely distressing week for so many.

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Speaker 1: We continue to send our love and we know out.

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Speaker 2: Louder's love and support to Australia's Jewish community and everyone

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Speaker 2: deeply affected by Sunday's attack on Sydney. And also today

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Speaker 2: my friends and I are going to end our year

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Speaker 2: how we always try to end the week with a

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Speaker 2: news free window of distraction and comfort and hopefully a

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Speaker 2: little joy. So I'm Holly Wayne Wright, I'm m Vernon,

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Speaker 2: and I'm Jesse Stephens and for the last time in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, here's what's on our agenda for today.

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Speaker 3: I'm desperate to talk about our predictions for twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six and we are going to revisit some twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five predictions we had.

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Speaker 4: Some came true, some didn't. Some of us, it appears,

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Speaker 4: are a lot better at predictions.

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Speaker 1: Than We're also going to give you our recos for

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Speaker 1: the week. We have two podcasts and a very sexy

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Speaker 2: I don't want to add to your end of year

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Speaker 2: to do list, but I'm going to the email you

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Speaker 2: need to write to yourself right now.

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Speaker 1: But first, Emily Vernon, the Sydney Morning Herald came out

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Speaker 1: with a very controversial list. They took a leaflet out

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Speaker 1: of our book and they listed seven tacki Christmas traditions.

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Speaker 2: Taki Taki is a word that upsets people quite a lot.

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Speaker 3: As soon as I hear that word, I get on

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Speaker 3: the defense because I'm like, I know you're calling me taky,

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Speaker 3: like I identify, I self identify as taky.

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Speaker 1: I'm a feeling you might agree with some of these. Yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me go through the list. Putting out snacks for

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Speaker 4: That's not taky. That just means you have children, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I think it also means that we know you just

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Speaker 1: want to eat some snacks.

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Speaker 4: Your family put out snacks for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I once convinced. I once convinced my dad

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Speaker 1: we don't have cookies, we don't have cookies. And then

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Speaker 1: I was I just put out some carrots for the reindeer,

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Speaker 2: So we still do it, even though the kids are now,

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Speaker 1: Oh bye wow slash he started early slightly pissed brows. Okay,

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Speaker 1: stop cooking dry turkey. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't love turkey. I've never been about turkey.

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Speaker 1: What about with some crime resauce?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I hold with that, although it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: Christmas carols, yeah, your name. How could Christmas carols be tacky?

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Speaker 4: They're not all created equally.

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Speaker 2: Like we're going to have a round now about what

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Speaker 2: is a carol, that carrol.

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Speaker 1: It's a Christmas song. Christmas carols are like Silent Night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's also like silent Night feels a bit depressing.

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Speaker 1: Its slow.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit slow. It's a bit depressing. And that's

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Speaker 1: Christmas cracker jokes like the jokes in those bon bonds.

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Speaker 4: Don't like the jokes. They're never funny. They do they

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Speaker 3: Or are they just additional additional wist? Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: I know that you're right about waste. But you can't

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Speaker 2: crackers in England. You can't have too many crackers at Christmas.

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Speaker 4: You have to have lots of them in England. Do

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, really bad dad jokes. I think

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Speaker 2: it's where Brent got most of his inspiration from for them.

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Speaker 3: The worst is when there's just a piece of plastic

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Speaker 1: I know you're right.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, like with the lunches, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Now. Mega Markle on her show, she was making the

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Speaker 1: I also feel like this is quite American. It'sunsky.

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Speaker 1: Asking for a friend?

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Speaker 3: What I worry about with the punch bowl is that

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Speaker 3: Also knows how many standard drinks are in it? So

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Speaker 3: from that exactly. Someone I said, I remember last Christmas

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I punch. People get so drunk from it.

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Speaker 1: And every time I've experienced a punch bowl. For some

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Speaker 2: Full fisting an exactly the hand I just steel like

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Speaker 1: It's very sticky, it very stacky. Weird. We deem it tacky. Okay,

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Speaker 1: being woken up by the kids way too early.

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Speaker 2: Obviously this is just tacky. That's annoying, but it's also

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Speaker 1: Okay. And the last one, grinches. I think grinches are tacky.

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Speaker 2: This is maybe a tangent, but I saw someone say

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Speaker 1: So true, And I think that's true.

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Speaker 4: Perhaps I know that your family loved you, so true.

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Speaker 2: So Christmas can bring out all kinds of things for

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Speaker 2: lots of different reasons, can't they. So some people our

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Speaker 2: grinch is for good reason. But if you're just being

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Speaker 2: a grinch to be cool, no, that's techno.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't started it, well done, I can't do

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Speaker 3: I said to Lucas, should we have done elf on

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Speaker 4: Holly? Did you do it?

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Speaker 1: But when did it start? Because I never did that

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Speaker 2: It was a relatively recent phenomena and it's a commercialized

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Speaker 2: Jesse wouldn't like it, obviously.

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Speaker 2: To make you think about the Yeah, well, actually it's

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Speaker 2: good because you could recycle them for like twenty years when.

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Speaker 4: You lose it every year.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's true.

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Speaker 2: You could do it with anything. You could do it

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Speaker 2: with a stuffed toy. You could do it with anything.

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Speaker 2: Because the whole idea is just it appears on January

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Speaker 2: This is the thing about Christmas traditions that people may

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Speaker 2: still this year I tried to have a civilized conversation

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Speaker 4: Because we have two Mummy's burnt out?

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Speaker 1: You have two elves?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of people, do we have two elves. I said,

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Speaker 2: do you really think the elves are coming this year?

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Speaker 2: And they both said yes. And then of course she

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Speaker 2: can't break a little heart at Christmas, a little almost

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Speaker 2: sixteen year old mecha wearing you just have to go sure, darling,

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Speaker 2: it's Christmas.

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Speaker 3: The point of Christmas is tackiness. We love a bit

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Speaker 3: of tacky at Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring your attention to an idea I

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Speaker 2: believe to be genius. Maggie Oldison is a journal She

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Speaker 1: That was on my list except for cheese.

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Speaker 3: So unlike Maggie, I went, I need to be reminded

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Speaker 1: I think think of the late night Christmas Day supper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a way as well, through the Christmas period

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Speaker 4: How about you, Holly? What else is on your list

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Speaker 2: Great Toys in newspaper Debacle of Christmas Eve twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: When I don't like it is if you really left

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Speaker 2: He won, So you've got there was the time that

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Speaker 1: So you've got to do this early. There's no point

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Speaker 2: And then you have to because like, well I got

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Speaker 1: If everyone's like, so did you bake biscuits for the

440
00:21:06,514 --> 00:21:09,674
Speaker 1: swim teacher, you know, it's like, no, I didn't, and

441
00:21:09,754 --> 00:21:11,074
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's okay.

442
00:21:11,114 --> 00:21:14,594
Speaker 2: So I think just keep your eyes on the prize.

443
00:21:14,754 --> 00:21:18,513
Speaker 2: And then this one is a summer holiday resolution that

444
00:21:18,594 --> 00:21:21,154
Speaker 2: I'm going to write down to remind myself this summer holidays.

445
00:21:21,634 --> 00:21:23,834
Speaker 2: Do not pick up your phone before a book and

446
00:21:23,874 --> 00:21:27,994
Speaker 2: a cup of tea in the morning, because on a workday,

447
00:21:28,434 --> 00:21:30,234
Speaker 2: the first thing I do always is grab my phone,

448
00:21:30,314 --> 00:21:33,434
Speaker 2: right and usually I will tell myself that's to scan news,

449
00:21:33,674 --> 00:21:34,954
Speaker 2: like what's going on. I don't think we need to

450
00:21:34,954 --> 00:21:36,634
Speaker 2: talk about on the show whatever. And then on the

451
00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:39,754
Speaker 2: weekend I do it for fun. But you feel so

452
00:21:39,954 --> 00:21:43,154
Speaker 2: good on holiday morning when you don't have to jump

453
00:21:43,194 --> 00:21:45,194
Speaker 2: out of bed to actually pick up a book and

454
00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:46,754
Speaker 2: read a chapter before you get out of bed.

455
00:21:46,954 --> 00:21:48,194
Speaker 1: That's going to be my summer holiday.

456
00:21:48,234 --> 00:21:49,674
Speaker 3: What I would love to do is a day before

457
00:21:49,714 --> 00:21:52,434
Speaker 3: we come back next year, is to write down what

458
00:21:52,514 --> 00:21:54,354
Speaker 3: I actually want to do in the summer holidays, because

459
00:21:54,354 --> 00:21:55,794
Speaker 3: I feel like I get to this time of year

460
00:21:55,994 --> 00:21:59,994
Speaker 3: every year and go what do I want to do?

461
00:22:00,074 --> 00:22:01,914
Speaker 3: I want to go away? Do I want to see

462
00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:03,154
Speaker 3: my friends? Do I want to spend a lot of

463
00:22:03,154 --> 00:22:05,194
Speaker 3: time at home? Do I want to just read? Because

464
00:22:05,234 --> 00:22:07,594
Speaker 3: that feeling of I'm going back to work tomorrow and

465
00:22:07,634 --> 00:22:10,874
Speaker 3: I did my summer holidays wrong is the worst feeling,

466
00:22:11,114 --> 00:22:11,754
Speaker 3: like you don't.

467
00:22:11,554 --> 00:22:13,834
Speaker 1: Feel very true. I feel that a lot, especially the

468
00:22:13,914 --> 00:22:16,553
Speaker 1: days between Christmas and New Years where you don't make

469
00:22:16,594 --> 00:22:18,874
Speaker 1: any plans because everyone's like it's so hectic. Those days

470
00:22:18,914 --> 00:22:20,994
Speaker 1: just catch up in the next year and then I

471
00:22:21,034 --> 00:22:21,714
Speaker 1: have nothing to do.

472
00:22:21,874 --> 00:22:26,593
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we could have gone out for drinks.

473
00:22:27,714 --> 00:22:29,234
Speaker 1: We could have gone for a hike.

474
00:22:30,074 --> 00:22:31,554
Speaker 4: Is there any other time in your life you would

475
00:22:31,554 --> 00:22:32,514
Speaker 4: have written yourself a letter?

476
00:22:32,834 --> 00:22:35,994
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this. Birthdays are obviously a big one.

477
00:22:36,354 --> 00:22:38,714
Speaker 2: Some people always have a big wobble on their birthday.

478
00:22:38,874 --> 00:22:41,273
Speaker 2: So what if you wrote yourself an email that dropped

479
00:22:41,274 --> 00:22:44,273
Speaker 2: in your inbox on the morning of your birthday and

480
00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,514
Speaker 2: just said, calm the fuck down.

481
00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:49,793
Speaker 3: It gives you a perspective without the pressure of the

482
00:22:49,834 --> 00:22:51,394
Speaker 3: emotional pressure of that day.

483
00:22:51,554 --> 00:22:53,754
Speaker 1: I quite like that. What would you put in yours?

484
00:22:55,114 --> 00:22:59,114
Speaker 1: Now it's the time to get into relationships past the

485
00:22:59,194 --> 00:23:01,354
Speaker 1: January twenty if you made it well done.

486
00:23:01,954 --> 00:23:04,513
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about writing myself a letter before, like

487
00:23:05,114 --> 00:23:07,754
Speaker 3: in the thick of like four weeks with is just

488
00:23:07,874 --> 00:23:11,194
Speaker 3: going that's really good. I'd fine, this time will pass.

489
00:23:12,594 --> 00:23:15,954
Speaker 3: Keep them alive. You got this, because that's actually a

490
00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:19,234
Speaker 3: great idea before you having a baby or in your

491
00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:22,834
Speaker 3: case babies, because you've been through this once now, yeah,

492
00:23:22,914 --> 00:23:24,474
Speaker 3: and you can get caught up in the pressure and

493
00:23:24,514 --> 00:23:28,273
Speaker 3: the sleep deprivation and feeding and all that kind of stuff.

494
00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:32,314
Speaker 3: If you just go top line, remember this passes like

495
00:23:32,394 --> 00:23:35,514
Speaker 3: that could be quite a good reminder.

496
00:23:35,754 --> 00:23:37,194
Speaker 1: Just has the time it right, because I don't think

497
00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:39,553
Speaker 1: you want to be getting that while you're in labor. No,

498
00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:41,553
Speaker 1: I remember this will pass, You're like.

499
00:23:43,194 --> 00:23:45,474
Speaker 2: And the beginning of winter is another one I would

500
00:23:45,514 --> 00:23:47,914
Speaker 2: do because I know a lot of people and I

501
00:23:47,954 --> 00:23:49,874
Speaker 2: can be a bit like this, although less so since

502
00:23:49,874 --> 00:23:53,114
Speaker 2: I moved. Who get really sad in winter? Yeah, me too,

503
00:23:53,314 --> 00:23:55,434
Speaker 2: And even on this side of the world where I

504
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,593
Speaker 2: would argue winters are not that bad, they kind of

505
00:23:57,634 --> 00:24:00,793
Speaker 2: are because we're just so primed for the weather to

506
00:24:00,834 --> 00:24:04,114
Speaker 2: be great. And years ago I read the book Wintering

507
00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:06,674
Speaker 2: by Catherine May that I've talked about before, which is amazing,

508
00:24:06,714 --> 00:24:10,114
Speaker 2: But it's about reframing that time of year, about sort

509
00:24:10,114 --> 00:24:11,074
Speaker 2: of going in wood a bit.

510
00:24:11,274 --> 00:24:12,434
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds really.

511
00:24:12,314 --> 00:24:15,914
Speaker 2: Cheesy, but also I think that one that would drop

512
00:24:15,914 --> 00:24:18,114
Speaker 2: on the days that the clock goes back, so it's

513
00:24:18,154 --> 00:24:19,874
Speaker 2: like the beginning of proper winter and you're going to

514
00:24:19,914 --> 00:24:24,994
Speaker 2: get dark evenings and stuff about like reminding yourself very

515
00:24:24,994 --> 00:24:27,513
Speaker 2: similar to your Maybe, in fact, maybe all these letters

516
00:24:27,554 --> 00:24:30,394
Speaker 2: should just be like this too shot pass but it

517
00:24:30,434 --> 00:24:33,914
Speaker 2: will find yourself that much away, like enjoy it, embrace it,

518
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:35,674
Speaker 2: think of all the good things about it. And then

519
00:24:35,714 --> 00:24:38,074
Speaker 2: I'd write a list of them, like you know, hot

520
00:24:38,234 --> 00:24:41,474
Speaker 2: soup and I don't know, cheesy shit, but yes, I

521
00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:43,114
Speaker 2: think that would be a good one.

522
00:24:43,514 --> 00:24:45,793
Speaker 3: Out louders in a moment, we look back at some

523
00:24:45,874 --> 00:24:49,513
Speaker 3: of our twenty twenty five predictions and we're ready to

524
00:24:49,594 --> 00:24:51,754
Speaker 3: make some new, bold ones for.

525
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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty six.

526
00:25:02,754 --> 00:25:05,474
Speaker 3: All right, we have less than two weeks left of

527
00:25:05,474 --> 00:25:08,434
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and I hate to bring this up,

528
00:25:08,474 --> 00:25:14,794
Speaker 3: but last year we threw around some predictions celebrity, politics, culture,

529
00:25:15,194 --> 00:25:17,994
Speaker 3: m you are off the hook because sitting in your

530
00:25:18,114 --> 00:25:23,634
Speaker 3: chair was Maya and she predicted, I quote, Harry and

531
00:25:23,674 --> 00:25:25,714
Speaker 3: Meghan would get divorced this year.

532
00:25:26,074 --> 00:25:27,794
Speaker 4: Nope, Brad Pitt.

533
00:25:27,594 --> 00:25:30,154
Speaker 3: Will marry the girl he's dating and they just broke up,

534
00:25:30,274 --> 00:25:34,754
Speaker 3: and she'll fall pregnant. Nah. I just I read her

535
00:25:34,754 --> 00:25:36,914
Speaker 3: predictions and I went, Okay, No wonder she needed a break,

536
00:25:36,954 --> 00:25:40,794
Speaker 3: she was delusional. Before we get into our predictions for

537
00:25:40,834 --> 00:25:43,714
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, I wanted to revisit the other prophecies

538
00:25:43,754 --> 00:25:45,354
Speaker 3: that we had for this year, just to do a

539
00:25:45,394 --> 00:25:47,074
Speaker 3: bit of a like.

540
00:25:47,194 --> 00:25:47,914
Speaker 4: Just to check them.

541
00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:52,914
Speaker 3: Mia actually said she got this one right. Meghan's show

542
00:25:52,954 --> 00:25:55,874
Speaker 3: will come out, we'll get our jam, and she'll return

543
00:25:55,914 --> 00:25:56,354
Speaker 3: to acting.

544
00:25:56,794 --> 00:25:57,834
Speaker 1: All those things have happened.

545
00:25:57,914 --> 00:25:58,793
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of those things.

546
00:25:58,954 --> 00:26:01,313
Speaker 2: Just in case that Louder started getting overly excited. She

547
00:26:01,474 --> 00:26:05,634
Speaker 2: was seen on a set. Whether she's acting, acting or

548
00:26:05,714 --> 00:26:08,474
Speaker 2: doing a cameo as herself, we're not sure, but I

549
00:26:08,514 --> 00:26:09,674
Speaker 2: think me a spot on there.

550
00:26:09,994 --> 00:26:13,314
Speaker 3: I think she is too. She also said people will

551
00:26:13,314 --> 00:26:14,114
Speaker 3: post less.

552
00:26:13,874 --> 00:26:16,354
Speaker 4: On social media. That she is right about that.

553
00:26:16,714 --> 00:26:21,194
Speaker 2: Now, Holly didn't make anything any better on social media though.

554
00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:25,194
Speaker 3: Holly, you predicted that Kim Kardashian and Elon Musk would

555
00:26:25,234 --> 00:26:27,554
Speaker 3: be a couple by feb Can.

556
00:26:27,594 --> 00:26:28,514
Speaker 1: I roll that over.

557
00:26:28,994 --> 00:26:32,033
Speaker 2: I still think that I still think it's got potential

558
00:26:32,274 --> 00:26:34,994
Speaker 2: that I still think that that has got potential.

559
00:26:35,154 --> 00:26:37,434
Speaker 4: What I will say about that prediction is.

560
00:26:39,234 --> 00:26:42,994
Speaker 3: Something is coming for Kim Kardashian and relationships, Like there's

561
00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:45,073
Speaker 3: a big swing coming. She kind of had her like

562
00:26:45,114 --> 00:26:47,474
Speaker 3: Pete Davidson, like then there was Kanie.

563
00:26:47,514 --> 00:26:48,034
Speaker 2: Know that.

564
00:26:49,434 --> 00:26:51,874
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a high profile boyfriend this year. And

565
00:26:51,874 --> 00:26:53,314
Speaker 3: I think we have to brace ourselves.

566
00:26:53,034 --> 00:26:54,834
Speaker 1: For I had a wedding because she says she really

567
00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:57,234
Speaker 1: wants a wedding. Yeah, I think we.

568
00:26:57,234 --> 00:26:59,114
Speaker 4: Could get a wedding this year. She loves a quick wedding.

569
00:26:59,434 --> 00:27:02,234
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think Kim's gotten very wise.

570
00:27:02,314 --> 00:27:05,033
Speaker 2: I listened to her call her Daddy episode and I

571
00:27:05,194 --> 00:27:07,554
Speaker 2: was struck by how wise she is. She's little through

572
00:27:07,594 --> 00:27:11,513
Speaker 2: a lot now, But I still think elanto possibility, I think,

573
00:27:11,554 --> 00:27:14,714
Speaker 2: which negates what I just said, because nobody wise would

574
00:27:14,714 --> 00:27:15,794
Speaker 2: ever date healing mask.

575
00:27:16,274 --> 00:27:19,594
Speaker 3: Meghan and Harry won't get you said, Holly, No, no, no,

576
00:27:19,634 --> 00:27:23,154
Speaker 3: They're not getting divorced in twenty twenty five. It'll last

577
00:27:23,154 --> 00:27:27,553
Speaker 3: another year. So your guess is this year is the

578
00:27:27,674 --> 00:27:28,914
Speaker 3: time for Meghan and Harry.

579
00:27:29,554 --> 00:27:31,314
Speaker 1: I don't think they are going to get divorced.

580
00:27:31,514 --> 00:27:31,554
Speaker 4: Not.

581
00:27:31,674 --> 00:27:33,514
Speaker 2: I still think we've got a little bit more time

582
00:27:33,554 --> 00:27:35,434
Speaker 2: in that. I mean they will one day, I don't.

583
00:27:35,514 --> 00:27:37,794
Speaker 2: I think they will one day get divorced. But won't

584
00:27:37,794 --> 00:27:40,554
Speaker 2: we all o you you never get married.

585
00:27:41,114 --> 00:27:44,394
Speaker 4: May are in barrel jeans by mid jan which I think.

586
00:27:44,874 --> 00:27:47,994
Speaker 2: I think she definitely bought them, but she didn't fall

587
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:50,634
Speaker 2: in love with them. Instead, she is wearing at the

588
00:27:50,714 --> 00:27:53,314
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty five pedal pushes.

589
00:27:53,834 --> 00:27:56,434
Speaker 4: She came in and I went, I hate how you.

590
00:27:56,314 --> 00:27:58,874
Speaker 2: Look, and she said, one of the things I missed

591
00:27:58,874 --> 00:28:01,273
Speaker 2: most about out loud is trolling you bitches with my

592
00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,273
Speaker 2: clothes so ugly.

593
00:28:04,634 --> 00:28:06,513
Speaker 3: You said that the oscars will be a gen x

594
00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:11,154
Speaker 3: fever dream, Nicole Demi, Kate Winslet, Angelina Jolie not a

595
00:28:11,154 --> 00:28:15,234
Speaker 3: wrinkle in sight until they've read my next prediction that

596
00:28:15,274 --> 00:28:17,674
Speaker 3: they're all going to go cold Turkey and they are

597
00:28:17,714 --> 00:28:20,194
Speaker 3: going to give up the injections and we're going to

598
00:28:20,234 --> 00:28:20,914
Speaker 3: have wall to wall old.

599
00:28:20,954 --> 00:28:23,554
Speaker 2: But I was so wrong about that because instead everybody

600
00:28:23,554 --> 00:28:24,794
Speaker 2: got facelifts this year.

601
00:28:25,074 --> 00:28:27,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think you're right about the gen x

602
00:28:27,074 --> 00:28:27,594
Speaker 4: fever dream.

603
00:28:27,674 --> 00:28:29,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been It's true and a lot of women

604
00:28:29,754 --> 00:28:32,834
Speaker 2: say to me because I'm like mid lady. They say,

605
00:28:32,874 --> 00:28:35,434
Speaker 2: it's so amazing how you never used to see women

606
00:28:35,514 --> 00:28:38,514
Speaker 2: over forty in movies and TV and now you see

607
00:28:38,554 --> 00:28:42,394
Speaker 2: them everywhere. It's just the slight catch that shouldn't look

608
00:28:42,474 --> 00:28:43,834
Speaker 2: look younger than them.

609
00:28:44,394 --> 00:28:49,074
Speaker 3: You're also predicted early dinners. You predicted something called Lena,

610
00:28:49,314 --> 00:28:51,034
Speaker 3: which is a lunch dinner at thirty.

611
00:28:51,154 --> 00:28:51,794
Speaker 1: That's true.

612
00:28:51,914 --> 00:28:54,714
Speaker 3: I think that's very true. You said Zendea and Tom

613
00:28:54,714 --> 00:28:56,714
Speaker 3: Holland would split, which is incorrect.

614
00:28:56,754 --> 00:28:57,754
Speaker 1: They've got engaged.

615
00:28:58,514 --> 00:28:59,794
Speaker 4: Well, guess who guessed that.

616
00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:04,434
Speaker 3: I said Zendea and Tom Holland will get engaged. Tick

617
00:29:04,794 --> 00:29:08,154
Speaker 3: I said the rise of fancy beverages and more efficient water,

618
00:29:08,754 --> 00:29:13,194
Speaker 3: more efficient hydration. Tick I also predicted and America's next

619
00:29:13,194 --> 00:29:15,354
Speaker 3: Top Model Netflix documentary, which is.

620
00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:17,594
Speaker 4: Apparently in the works. Are you going to take that

621
00:29:17,634 --> 00:29:18,234
Speaker 4: in the works?

622
00:29:18,434 --> 00:29:20,754
Speaker 3: We are going to ignore my prediction that Kim k

623
00:29:20,994 --> 00:29:23,434
Speaker 3: would be in Trump's cabinet. We're not going to talk

624
00:29:23,474 --> 00:29:26,114
Speaker 3: about how I said Dutton would win, and we're not

625
00:29:26,154 --> 00:29:27,074
Speaker 3: going to talk about.

626
00:29:26,874 --> 00:29:28,994
Speaker 1: Brad truly did think that Dutton was going to win

627
00:29:29,034 --> 00:29:29,434
Speaker 1: the election.

628
00:29:29,514 --> 00:29:31,794
Speaker 3: That was I put my money on Dutton winning and

629
00:29:31,834 --> 00:29:32,394
Speaker 3: he did not.

630
00:29:33,994 --> 00:29:34,954
Speaker 4: M. I want to know.

631
00:29:35,234 --> 00:29:37,834
Speaker 3: We're looking down the barrel at twenty twenty six. What

632
00:29:38,114 --> 00:29:39,234
Speaker 3: are your predictions?

633
00:29:39,314 --> 00:29:42,594
Speaker 1: Okay, pop culture, Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau will have

634
00:29:42,594 --> 00:29:43,074
Speaker 1: a baby.

635
00:29:43,554 --> 00:29:47,074
Speaker 2: No, yes, yes, they're just gonna have fun.

636
00:29:48,234 --> 00:29:51,394
Speaker 3: I don't think Justin I feel like he's moved on

637
00:29:51,474 --> 00:29:53,874
Speaker 3: from that era, from his dad era.

638
00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:57,354
Speaker 1: No, because why would he be dating Katy Perry? Otherwise?

639
00:29:57,594 --> 00:30:00,594
Speaker 1: Hot you exactly? Hot kids? Just the way they were

640
00:30:00,594 --> 00:30:02,794
Speaker 1: looking at each other in that picture. Yeah, it's really

641
00:30:02,874 --> 00:30:05,074
Speaker 1: like the hard launch. The hard launch is making me go.

642
00:30:05,434 --> 00:30:08,074
Speaker 4: So you're you're going this is a long.

643
00:30:07,994 --> 00:30:12,554
Speaker 1: Term Yeah, serious relationship love. We're all going to have

644
00:30:12,634 --> 00:30:16,914
Speaker 1: flip phones and phones with our cameras. Really, I have seen.

645
00:30:16,994 --> 00:30:19,754
Speaker 2: Billy was very excitedly showing me a flip phone in

646
00:30:19,794 --> 00:30:22,154
Speaker 2: a shop the other day, but it did have a camera.

647
00:30:22,274 --> 00:30:24,594
Speaker 2: It wasn't like an old school flip phone. Okay, are

648
00:30:24,634 --> 00:30:28,914
Speaker 2: you talking about kind of getting away from our Yeah,

649
00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:31,074
Speaker 2: I think it will start being like we have our

650
00:30:31,114 --> 00:30:34,114
Speaker 2: iPhone still, but we're not going to keep upgrading them.

651
00:30:34,154 --> 00:30:36,154
Speaker 2: We're just going to have a flip phone, And then

652
00:30:36,154 --> 00:30:38,274
Speaker 2: the flip phone will start to be more in our

653
00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:40,474
Speaker 2: lives more than the iPhone, and so like maybe we'll

654
00:30:40,514 --> 00:30:42,794
Speaker 2: bring the iPhone when we feel an iPhone is needed,

655
00:30:42,794 --> 00:30:43,314
Speaker 2: but the rest of.

656
00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:47,794
Speaker 1: The iPhone maybe stays at work. I did read this

657
00:30:47,874 --> 00:30:50,794
Speaker 1: thing the other day about dance parties for like grown

658
00:30:50,874 --> 00:30:53,514
Speaker 1: up people, and they're putting stickers on everybody's phones when

659
00:30:53,514 --> 00:30:55,594
Speaker 1: they walk in. Not because they think there's no alcohol

660
00:30:55,674 --> 00:30:57,794
Speaker 1: or anything at these parties, by the way, but they're

661
00:30:57,834 --> 00:31:01,314
Speaker 1: like they're kind of like feel good dance, like nobody's

662
00:31:01,354 --> 00:31:04,354
Speaker 1: watching kind of vibe, and they're putting stickers on everyone's

663
00:31:04,394 --> 00:31:06,994
Speaker 1: iPhone as a condition of entry because they say it

664
00:31:07,194 --> 00:31:11,474
Speaker 1: changes the entire vibe of going dancing, going clubbing a

665
00:31:11,514 --> 00:31:13,914
Speaker 1: lot is if you're just filming each other all the

666
00:31:13,954 --> 00:31:16,634
Speaker 1: time and filming yourself and imagine the phoonem mo when

667
00:31:16,674 --> 00:31:18,994
Speaker 1: you don't even have like the Instagram stories to see

668
00:31:19,034 --> 00:31:19,754
Speaker 1: how good it was.

669
00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:22,314
Speaker 4: I know, okay, what else are you particularly?

670
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:26,434
Speaker 1: I also have costume makeup will be in like clean

671
00:31:26,514 --> 00:31:28,834
Speaker 1: girl set it gone heavy makeup back in.

672
00:31:29,194 --> 00:31:29,594
Speaker 4: You're right.

673
00:31:29,594 --> 00:31:32,354
Speaker 2: Do you follow the woman that I follow on TikTok

674
00:31:33,194 --> 00:31:36,394
Speaker 2: and Instagram, who's the Italian American woman who does the

675
00:31:36,474 --> 00:31:37,674
Speaker 2: really full on makeup.

676
00:31:37,794 --> 00:31:40,114
Speaker 1: She's called I think she's called tagged beauty.

677
00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:42,194
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to give it as a recommendation. I'll

678
00:31:42,194 --> 00:31:44,554
Speaker 2: put a link in it. So she because she's a

679
00:31:44,594 --> 00:31:48,794
Speaker 2: massive beauty influencer now and she is that she layers

680
00:31:48,834 --> 00:31:51,674
Speaker 2: it on and her skin is terrible like that as

681
00:31:51,714 --> 00:31:54,834
Speaker 2: a point of the thing is like she does here's

682
00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:56,474
Speaker 2: my face, and then she does the full face and

683
00:31:56,514 --> 00:31:58,234
Speaker 2: she's like, if you're not having fun with makeup, and

684
00:31:58,274 --> 00:32:01,034
Speaker 2: if you're not transforming yourself to a place where your

685
00:32:01,074 --> 00:32:03,634
Speaker 2: phone camera can't recognize you, why are you even bothering?

686
00:32:03,754 --> 00:32:06,834
Speaker 1: And I was kind of like, not for me, but

687
00:32:07,994 --> 00:32:10,154
Speaker 1: I want to bring back the eyeshadow palette. Yeah, I

688
00:32:10,154 --> 00:32:15,034
Speaker 1: love eyeshadow. Okay, drink bottles will become cringe. This is

689
00:32:15,074 --> 00:32:17,114
Speaker 1: a very good prediction. Yeah, No, I like, I think

690
00:32:17,154 --> 00:32:18,594
Speaker 1: we need to go back to the glass. What's going

691
00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:20,794
Speaker 1: to happen to hydration? Well, we just have to go

692
00:32:20,834 --> 00:32:23,034
Speaker 1: to the kitchen more often. Fill it up, talk to

693
00:32:23,074 --> 00:32:24,674
Speaker 1: someone on your way there. Can we talk to our

694
00:32:24,714 --> 00:32:27,034
Speaker 1: producers about them not allowed to bring We're not allowed

695
00:32:27,034 --> 00:32:31,434
Speaker 1: to bring open vessels in here. Ghosting will become illegal.

696
00:32:32,834 --> 00:32:37,514
Speaker 2: A bit like that, A bit Lauren starting for getting there,

697
00:32:38,154 --> 00:32:40,194
Speaker 2: we were talking about it on Out Loud last week

698
00:32:40,194 --> 00:32:44,674
Speaker 2: about how a Turkish court has ruled that liking other

699
00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:48,794
Speaker 2: women's Instagram posts can be seen as infidelity in a

700
00:32:48,834 --> 00:32:49,754
Speaker 2: divorce case.

701
00:32:50,114 --> 00:32:53,274
Speaker 1: I know you're now thinking that ghostings the next thing.

702
00:32:53,354 --> 00:32:54,994
Speaker 1: I think the same thing will happen. There will be

703
00:32:55,114 --> 00:32:59,634
Speaker 1: some legend of a woman suing a man for completely

704
00:32:59,634 --> 00:33:01,194
Speaker 1: ghosting her, and the court's.

705
00:33:00,914 --> 00:33:02,754
Speaker 3: Going to be like hell yeah, I said a precident.

706
00:33:02,834 --> 00:33:03,754
Speaker 3: It'll be a whole thing.

707
00:33:03,994 --> 00:33:07,274
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Sean Combe P Diddy will come out

708
00:33:07,314 --> 00:33:10,034
Speaker 1: with an album and I'll be Grammy nominated from the

709
00:33:11,674 --> 00:33:17,514
Speaker 1: Wow and his direct competitor Northwest with her album about

710
00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:19,274
Speaker 1: her dad, I hope. So.

711
00:33:19,634 --> 00:33:21,354
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a big year for Northwest.

712
00:33:21,754 --> 00:33:23,954
Speaker 3: I think every year until the year we die will

713
00:33:23,994 --> 00:33:25,874
Speaker 3: be a big years.

714
00:33:25,434 --> 00:33:28,954
Speaker 1: Really good. My last one is swimming, Like swim clubs

715
00:33:28,994 --> 00:33:30,314
Speaker 1: will replace run clubs.

716
00:33:30,474 --> 00:33:33,394
Speaker 3: Okay, this is my theory last year because I said

717
00:33:33,434 --> 00:33:36,034
Speaker 3: everyone's going to be injured from their run clubs. Yes,

718
00:33:36,394 --> 00:33:41,834
Speaker 3: Like I think a cl meniscus, ankle, all of it. Like,

719
00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:44,994
Speaker 3: I just think that where that the injuries people get

720
00:33:44,994 --> 00:33:46,394
Speaker 3: will mean that they do have to pivot.

721
00:33:46,834 --> 00:33:48,394
Speaker 1: My parents have joined the swim club.

722
00:33:49,154 --> 00:33:52,674
Speaker 4: I'm swimming yourself. I'll tell you that.

723
00:33:52,674 --> 00:33:55,594
Speaker 3: Actually I've got a bit of a sore neck. Holly,

724
00:33:55,674 --> 00:33:56,594
Speaker 3: what are your predictions?

725
00:33:57,314 --> 00:34:00,634
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's have another crack at the Royals. Okay, Okay,

726
00:34:00,794 --> 00:34:03,634
Speaker 2: Harry's going back to London, no question. We are going

727
00:34:03,714 --> 00:34:06,954
Speaker 2: to see more UK based Harry this year. Whether or

728
00:34:06,994 --> 00:34:09,354
Speaker 2: not Megan goes with him, I don't know. But there

729
00:34:09,354 --> 00:34:12,994
Speaker 2: are lots of bubbling reports about like a soft return

730
00:34:13,034 --> 00:34:16,314
Speaker 2: to the Royal family before Charles dies, establishing a bit

731
00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:18,834
Speaker 2: of a rival court. I think this has legs because

732
00:34:18,834 --> 00:34:21,314
Speaker 2: my other prediction about the Royals, sorry, my watch is

733
00:34:21,354 --> 00:34:21,834
Speaker 2: going beep.

734
00:34:22,714 --> 00:34:24,154
Speaker 1: If you had a frim that wouldn't happen.

735
00:34:25,834 --> 00:34:28,033
Speaker 2: Other prediction about the Royals is they're going to face

736
00:34:28,074 --> 00:34:30,994
Speaker 2: a major reckoning. Like I think that that Andrew stuff

737
00:34:31,034 --> 00:34:32,994
Speaker 2: is just the beginning. I think there's going to be

738
00:34:33,074 --> 00:34:35,474
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff coming out about their wealth and

739
00:34:35,514 --> 00:34:37,393
Speaker 2: their property and all the things they've swept under the

740
00:34:37,394 --> 00:34:40,154
Speaker 2: cup it and I reckon that William and Kate are

741
00:34:40,194 --> 00:34:42,433
Speaker 2: going to rise as the you know, Catherine's going to

742
00:34:42,434 --> 00:34:45,234
Speaker 2: be in charge of everything. It's going to be great anyway,

743
00:34:45,274 --> 00:34:48,314
Speaker 2: that's my prediction there. Tony Abbott's going to be back

744
00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:50,714
Speaker 2: in Australian politics. I know last year we said Dunn

745
00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:52,794
Speaker 2: was going to win, but I think that I think

746
00:34:52,794 --> 00:34:55,553
Speaker 2: that what's going on on that side of politics, where

747
00:34:55,554 --> 00:34:58,274
Speaker 2: they're like wrestling for the soul of who's hardline enough.

748
00:34:59,354 --> 00:35:01,074
Speaker 1: You can feel it bubbling.

749
00:35:01,234 --> 00:35:04,274
Speaker 4: His book flew off shelves. Apparently it really sold.

750
00:35:04,834 --> 00:35:07,593
Speaker 1: This is really I'm not thrilled about that. Not my guy.

751
00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:10,154
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too late for the prediction I

752
00:35:10,194 --> 00:35:12,274
Speaker 2: made last year that Sam Armitage was coming back to

753
00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:13,674
Speaker 2: breakfast television.

754
00:35:13,714 --> 00:35:15,754
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, because she's all.

755
00:35:15,634 --> 00:35:20,474
Speaker 2: Over everywhere, and I think that might still happen. Timothy

756
00:35:20,634 --> 00:35:21,794
Speaker 2: is not going to win his Oscar.

757
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:26,194
Speaker 1: I don't think obviously not. Well, I would like him too.

758
00:35:26,274 --> 00:35:27,034
Speaker 1: This is Chala May.

759
00:35:27,114 --> 00:35:29,994
Speaker 2: He's campaigning very hard, and I was thinking that's because

760
00:35:30,034 --> 00:35:32,274
Speaker 2: nobody likes that level of confidence, and then I remember

761
00:35:32,354 --> 00:35:34,794
Speaker 2: he is a dude, so it could be possible. But

762
00:35:35,114 --> 00:35:36,473
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to win. I think he's

763
00:35:36,514 --> 00:35:40,234
Speaker 2: going to be like the DiCaprio of his time. Yeah,

764
00:35:40,234 --> 00:35:42,074
Speaker 2: he might go on in his fifties, that's fine. I

765
00:35:42,114 --> 00:35:45,354
Speaker 2: think Aniston's going to marry the hypnotist. The times of

766
00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:46,634
Speaker 2: charm and I do.

767
00:35:46,554 --> 00:35:47,874
Speaker 1: You think she'll released the wedding fomus.

768
00:35:47,914 --> 00:35:51,074
Speaker 2: Yes, I think she is going to share lenches of

769
00:35:51,194 --> 00:35:55,873
Speaker 2: their Barefoot Beach cash wedding because she's in a gen

770
00:35:56,194 --> 00:35:58,114
Speaker 2: x over sharing frenzy at the moment.

771
00:35:58,194 --> 00:35:59,674
Speaker 4: She is a bit Yeah.

772
00:35:59,714 --> 00:36:01,274
Speaker 2: And I think Kim is going to pass the bar

773
00:36:01,434 --> 00:36:07,393
Speaker 2: finally and reinstate all those psychics he wronged her. My

774
00:36:07,594 --> 00:36:10,714
Speaker 2: very important predictions for what's going on. Oh, and I'm

775
00:36:10,754 --> 00:36:12,594
Speaker 2: going to get into composting and chickens.

776
00:36:12,794 --> 00:36:15,993
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you're doing.

777
00:36:16,114 --> 00:36:19,074
Speaker 3: I have really good news, which is that I was

778
00:36:19,114 --> 00:36:22,394
Speaker 3: on I was doing a bit of like chat GPT,

779
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:26,354
Speaker 3: like what's coming and one of the biggest forecasted trends

780
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:28,473
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six is.

781
00:36:28,434 --> 00:36:30,834
Speaker 4: The year of the female farmer?

782
00:36:31,234 --> 00:36:36,194
Speaker 3: Yes it Oh what's the female farmer? I was like, Oh,

783
00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:41,114
Speaker 3: no's going to be insufferable. What's annoying is that every

784
00:36:41,114 --> 00:36:44,714
Speaker 3: time you ask chat GPT about predictions, it's like, guys,

785
00:36:44,714 --> 00:36:49,714
Speaker 3: it's the year of AI and I'm like, fuck off.

786
00:36:48,114 --> 00:36:49,074
Speaker 4: You just centering.

787
00:36:49,514 --> 00:36:50,634
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a promotion.

788
00:36:51,034 --> 00:36:54,274
Speaker 4: I shut up, made it, Okay. The culture will not

789
00:36:54,314 --> 00:36:57,154
Speaker 4: be nice about Taylor's wedding dress. We do need a

790
00:36:57,194 --> 00:36:58,474
Speaker 4: little we just need a moment.

791
00:36:58,514 --> 00:37:02,794
Speaker 2: Sidebar on our predictions for Taylor's wedding, because it's definitely

792
00:37:02,794 --> 00:37:04,994
Speaker 2: happening next year, right if it doesn't happen over Christmas,

793
00:37:05,034 --> 00:37:06,074
Speaker 2: which is a possibility.

794
00:37:06,314 --> 00:37:08,514
Speaker 3: I think I don't know enough about the NFL season

795
00:37:08,554 --> 00:37:09,434
Speaker 3: to know when it will happen.

796
00:37:09,474 --> 00:37:12,114
Speaker 1: But it's true, my gut's telling I think it's all

797
00:37:12,154 --> 00:37:15,314
Speaker 1: over by the end of jan really, but the super

798
00:37:15,354 --> 00:37:17,834
Speaker 1: Bowl Super Bowls January February.

799
00:37:17,554 --> 00:37:17,794
Speaker 2: Isn't it.

800
00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:19,314
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

801
00:37:19,394 --> 00:37:22,434
Speaker 1: I'm getting a nod from the birthdays on the thirteenth

802
00:37:22,434 --> 00:37:24,154
Speaker 1: of December. Do you think she'll do like a birthday

803
00:37:24,194 --> 00:37:28,154
Speaker 1: wedding or so it's just happened. So super Bowls eighth

804
00:37:28,194 --> 00:37:30,714
Speaker 1: a feb So it's all over by then.

805
00:37:30,874 --> 00:37:33,513
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm going end of twenty twenty six.

806
00:37:33,554 --> 00:37:35,594
Speaker 3: I think they need more time to plan, Holly, But

807
00:37:35,834 --> 00:37:37,674
Speaker 3: you wouldn't know. You've never had a wedding.

808
00:37:38,954 --> 00:37:40,714
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, but don't you think they want

809
00:37:40,714 --> 00:37:42,433
Speaker 2: to have a bet? And then I remember that I

810
00:37:42,474 --> 00:37:43,554
Speaker 2: was at your wedding and you had a.

811
00:37:43,514 --> 00:37:44,873
Speaker 4: Beautiful exactly I did.

812
00:37:45,234 --> 00:37:49,354
Speaker 3: So I think she's going to go fairy princess, classic romance,

813
00:37:49,394 --> 00:37:52,794
Speaker 3: sweetheart neckline, very love story circa.

814
00:37:52,554 --> 00:37:54,954
Speaker 1: Like fearless tailor.

815
00:37:55,074 --> 00:37:58,234
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that the internet will have

816
00:37:58,274 --> 00:37:59,354
Speaker 3: some opinions about it.

817
00:37:59,434 --> 00:38:01,034
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll get to see it? Yeah?

818
00:38:01,234 --> 00:38:03,154
Speaker 3: I like, I don't think we're going to live stream

819
00:38:03,154 --> 00:38:05,514
Speaker 3: the ceremony, but I think that we're definitely going to

820
00:38:05,554 --> 00:38:09,553
Speaker 3: get a carousel drop. I think Taylor could go every

821
00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:11,114
Speaker 3: two to three months. I think they could get a

822
00:38:11,194 --> 00:38:14,114
Speaker 3: drop a photo. She's going to go formula. Okay, what

823
00:38:14,154 --> 00:38:15,354
Speaker 3: do you think dress wise?

824
00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:19,114
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think PRINCESSI yeah, like hair up.

825
00:38:19,154 --> 00:38:21,314
Speaker 1: I think she's going to go back to her natural curls.

826
00:38:21,474 --> 00:38:22,393
Speaker 4: Yes, and I have like.

827
00:38:22,314 --> 00:38:24,954
Speaker 1: Two bits in the front hair up, maybe like a

828
00:38:24,954 --> 00:38:28,754
Speaker 1: sneaky little tiara yea.

829
00:38:28,994 --> 00:38:29,194
Speaker 4: Yeah.

830
00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:31,674
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to actually, like not just

831
00:38:31,714 --> 00:38:33,953
Speaker 1: wear a plane suit like it's Travis Kelcey. I think

832
00:38:33,994 --> 00:38:38,393
Speaker 1: he might have oh, he'll be bleased some going. I

833
00:38:38,394 --> 00:38:39,674
Speaker 1: think she's going to go sexy.

834
00:38:40,154 --> 00:38:43,714
Speaker 2: Really, when you see them out on dates, she always

835
00:38:43,754 --> 00:38:46,274
Speaker 2: is wearing a short skirt and high heels and she

836
00:38:46,314 --> 00:38:49,034
Speaker 2: looks amazing. But I think he likes her in a

837
00:38:49,154 --> 00:38:53,634
Speaker 2: traditional sexy look, and so I think she's gonna go sexy.

838
00:38:53,634 --> 00:38:54,194
Speaker 4: Interesting.

839
00:38:54,354 --> 00:38:58,513
Speaker 3: Okay, I am predictioning. I am predicting a major health

840
00:38:58,554 --> 00:39:00,514
Speaker 3: crisis for Donald Trump. I'm not saying I want that

841
00:39:00,514 --> 00:39:02,433
Speaker 3: to happen. I'm just saying that I think it will.

842
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:03,394
Speaker 3: He is nearly eighty.

843
00:39:03,514 --> 00:39:04,634
Speaker 4: Something's gonna happen this year.

844
00:39:05,114 --> 00:39:08,434
Speaker 3: FIFA World Cup is going to be big, and Jesse's

845
00:39:08,434 --> 00:39:09,953
Speaker 3: going to get into soccer for four weeks.

846
00:39:10,034 --> 00:39:11,634
Speaker 1: The World Cup's going to be big. What kind of

847
00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:13,754
Speaker 1: prediction is that? Of course the World Cup's going to.

848
00:39:13,674 --> 00:39:15,514
Speaker 3: Be big, it's going to be big for me personally.

849
00:39:16,274 --> 00:39:18,074
Speaker 3: I dip in and out of major sporting events.

850
00:39:18,154 --> 00:39:20,274
Speaker 1: It's true, and you do become an expert. I do.

851
00:39:20,634 --> 00:39:22,834
Speaker 4: I do. I'm going to pretend like I've followed soccer

852
00:39:22,874 --> 00:39:23,274
Speaker 4: my whole up.

853
00:39:23,314 --> 00:39:25,634
Speaker 2: We didn't predict that this year you were going to

854
00:39:25,674 --> 00:39:26,714
Speaker 2: become an f one ball.

855
00:39:26,834 --> 00:39:27,714
Speaker 4: We didn't. We didn't.

856
00:39:27,754 --> 00:39:29,514
Speaker 3: But my prediction is there will be a new season

857
00:39:29,554 --> 00:39:33,034
Speaker 3: and it will be great. The end of Kylie and Timothy,

858
00:39:34,634 --> 00:39:40,034
Speaker 3: I'm Kylie baby. They might have a baby, but I

859
00:39:40,754 --> 00:39:42,434
Speaker 3: think they might have a baby, and at my baby.

860
00:39:42,234 --> 00:39:44,954
Speaker 2: I think it's all about whether or not he wins.

861
00:39:45,354 --> 00:39:47,034
Speaker 2: I think if he doesn't win the Oscar, he's going

862
00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:50,354
Speaker 2: to spiral and he's probably ready for a breakdown. Things

863
00:39:50,394 --> 00:39:51,274
Speaker 2: have been good for him.

864
00:39:51,434 --> 00:39:53,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, till now, he's been quite quite settled.

865
00:39:54,794 --> 00:39:58,794
Speaker 3: I think we're going to get a brilliant Blake Lively documentary.

866
00:39:58,954 --> 00:40:00,314
Speaker 1: Oh I hope, so like a.

867
00:40:00,234 --> 00:40:03,274
Speaker 4: Three parter explaining her side wishless now.

868
00:40:03,434 --> 00:40:05,434
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Blake's going to be at that wedding.

869
00:40:06,194 --> 00:40:10,514
Speaker 2: I think one of my predictions about that is that

870
00:40:10,514 --> 00:40:13,194
Speaker 2: that split is not as splitty as we think. I

871
00:40:13,194 --> 00:40:15,034
Speaker 2: think a lot of it is about just taking the

872
00:40:15,034 --> 00:40:17,554
Speaker 2: heat off everything that's been going on with court cases

873
00:40:17,554 --> 00:40:19,234
Speaker 2: and all those things. But I don't think the blood

874
00:40:19,314 --> 00:40:21,114
Speaker 2: is as bad as we think they're. And I think

875
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,034
Speaker 2: you know how when Selena Gomes got married, she released

876
00:40:24,074 --> 00:40:25,954
Speaker 2: the pictures in dribs and drabs and at first it

877
00:40:25,994 --> 00:40:28,034
Speaker 2: was just them and then it was their famous friends,

878
00:40:28,034 --> 00:40:31,674
Speaker 2: and she held Taylor till Taylor's album launch. Yes, I

879
00:40:31,714 --> 00:40:33,114
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a bit like that. We

880
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Speaker 2: won't find out immediately, but that Blake will have been

881
00:40:36,074 --> 00:40:36,634
Speaker 2: at that wedding.

882
00:40:37,034 --> 00:40:41,073
Speaker 4: Interesting. I just think keep your eyes on Jared Letto

883
00:40:41,434 --> 00:40:44,634
Speaker 4: in terms of reading just generally that man.

884
00:40:45,194 --> 00:40:50,034
Speaker 3: You know, there's smoke, there's fire, naughty man, naughty little

885
00:40:50,034 --> 00:40:52,314
Speaker 3: whispers that are getting louder and louder.

886
00:40:52,354 --> 00:40:53,674
Speaker 4: I just think this could be the year that there's

887
00:40:53,674 --> 00:40:54,754
Speaker 4: a takedown of Jared Letter.

888
00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:57,433
Speaker 2: I think we've lost our taste for takedown so on,

889
00:40:57,714 --> 00:40:59,954
Speaker 2: and then think in these cases, yeah, that case is

890
00:40:59,994 --> 00:41:01,234
Speaker 2: quite unfortunate that we have.

891
00:41:01,354 --> 00:41:04,074
Speaker 1: But yeah, he does a Brad Pitt and just makes

892
00:41:04,114 --> 00:41:05,154
Speaker 1: the best movie of his life.

893
00:41:05,274 --> 00:41:09,354
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone's like, ah, damn, phone charms.

894
00:41:09,794 --> 00:41:11,834
Speaker 3: I think we're going to start putting charms on our phones,

895
00:41:11,994 --> 00:41:14,033
Speaker 3: like la boo boo, like that kind of thing.

896
00:41:14,154 --> 00:41:16,994
Speaker 1: Because I've got a charm on my phone. Yes, I

897
00:41:17,034 --> 00:41:19,074
Speaker 1: think we're all going to be so ahead of her time.

898
00:41:19,194 --> 00:41:20,873
Speaker 1: It was more practical because I can keep it on

899
00:41:20,914 --> 00:41:21,314
Speaker 1: my wrist.

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00:41:21,634 --> 00:41:23,794
Speaker 4: It's a kind of twenty tens. Callback.

901
00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:28,114
Speaker 3: I feel that I've also got the year of the

902
00:41:28,234 --> 00:41:31,754
Speaker 3: unusual face. I reckon that because of the face lift,

903
00:41:31,834 --> 00:41:35,714
Speaker 3: because of the uniformity of Lindsay Loewen looks exactly like

904
00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:39,993
Speaker 3: Chris Jenner, looks exactly like everyone else, that it will

905
00:41:39,994 --> 00:41:42,873
Speaker 3: be the year of like strange face.

906
00:41:44,074 --> 00:41:46,754
Speaker 2: You know, we said that when we had Amy Amy

907
00:41:46,834 --> 00:41:49,514
Speaker 2: Leewood on white Lotus. This year, we said, oh great,

908
00:41:49,594 --> 00:41:51,514
Speaker 2: like everybody's going to look a bit different now, it

909
00:41:51,554 --> 00:41:53,834
Speaker 2: didn't happen. By the end of the everyone looked exactly

910
00:41:53,874 --> 00:41:54,234
Speaker 2: the same.

911
00:41:54,434 --> 00:41:57,674
Speaker 4: I've got two more. The end of the vacuous celebrity.

912
00:41:57,754 --> 00:42:01,194
Speaker 3: I think that the way that long form podcasts are

913
00:42:01,234 --> 00:42:05,594
Speaker 3: becoming the go to for celebrities, and also the sub

914
00:42:05,634 --> 00:42:10,154
Speaker 3: stack kind of yeah, them all writing essays, it's going

915
00:42:10,154 --> 00:42:12,994
Speaker 3: to be this existential like every celebrity is going to

916
00:42:13,034 --> 00:42:14,154
Speaker 3: be Dax Shepherd.

917
00:42:15,034 --> 00:42:16,554
Speaker 1: Only Das can be Dack showed, you.

918
00:42:16,554 --> 00:42:18,754
Speaker 4: Know, but they're all going to be like musing about.

919
00:42:18,794 --> 00:42:21,554
Speaker 3: And I think Kim Kardashian indicates this too, that the

920
00:42:21,594 --> 00:42:25,033
Speaker 3: idea of just being like a silly, dumb I don't

921
00:42:25,034 --> 00:42:28,474
Speaker 3: know anything celebrity. I don't think we've got any appetite

922
00:42:28,474 --> 00:42:29,754
Speaker 3: for that. In twenty twenty six.

923
00:42:29,674 --> 00:42:33,074
Speaker 1: I think the phrase sub stack writer is going to

924
00:42:33,074 --> 00:42:33,794
Speaker 1: be a bit of a slur.

925
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Speaker 4: Sorry sorry, And my last one, Twins make a comeback.

926
00:42:44,714 --> 00:42:48,834
Speaker 3: I feel like Twins have been a bit cringe please guys.

927
00:42:48,834 --> 00:42:49,873
Speaker 1: I think come on.

928
00:42:49,994 --> 00:42:52,154
Speaker 3: I think it's the year of Twins. I think we

929
00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:53,194
Speaker 3: make Twins cool again.

930
00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:54,674
Speaker 4: I feel like is.

931
00:42:54,674 --> 00:42:59,634
Speaker 1: This because twins are cool adult twins.

932
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Speaker 4: I think both of them.

933
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Speaker 2: I think the rebrand a day on our list of

934
00:43:04,794 --> 00:43:05,994
Speaker 2: Christmas things are attacking.

935
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Speaker 1: I think you and I just need to get over it.

936
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Speaker 1: So great after the break, we are sharing our records,

937
00:43:15,714 --> 00:43:19,513
Speaker 1: including two serious podcasts and one sexy TV show.

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Speaker 3: Every Tuesday and Thursday, we drop new segments of Mummy

939
00:43:25,674 --> 00:43:29,234
Speaker 3: out Loud just for Mummy subscribers. Follow the link in

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Speaker 3: the show notes to get your daily dose of out

941
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Speaker 3: Loud and a big thank you to all our current subscribers.

942
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Speaker 1: It is Friday and we want to help set up

943
00:43:48,474 --> 00:43:50,994
Speaker 1: your weekend with our very best recommendations.

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Speaker 2: Hollyween Wright Okay, I'm recommending a podcast. It's a really

945
00:43:55,554 --> 00:43:58,034
Speaker 2: good one and it's one of those serialized ones. You

946
00:43:58,074 --> 00:44:00,993
Speaker 2: can really get into it over the holidays. It's by

947
00:44:01,634 --> 00:44:04,394
Speaker 2: It's hosted by one of my faves, which is Monica

948
00:44:04,434 --> 00:44:07,794
Speaker 2: Padman from the aforementioned Dak Shepherd's podcast. I am an

949
00:44:07,914 --> 00:44:11,554
Speaker 2: armchair Stan as many people know, controversial opinion around.

950
00:44:11,274 --> 00:44:12,114
Speaker 1: Here, but it's mine.

951
00:44:12,394 --> 00:44:15,354
Speaker 2: She is hosting a show with these two other American

952
00:44:15,554 --> 00:44:17,794
Speaker 2: podcasters who I'd never heard of in my life. They

953
00:44:17,834 --> 00:44:20,514
Speaker 2: are called Elizabeth Lame and Andy rosen Well rings a

954
00:44:20,514 --> 00:44:24,594
Speaker 2: bell but still. And the premise is is that these guys,

955
00:44:24,634 --> 00:44:28,354
Speaker 2: these American sort of comedian slash riders who were married,

956
00:44:28,554 --> 00:44:31,594
Speaker 2: had a podcast, quite a popular culty podcast in the

957
00:44:31,754 --> 00:44:36,074
Speaker 2: twenty tens twenty teens, and then it disappeared, and it

958
00:44:36,154 --> 00:44:38,314
Speaker 2: used to be Monica's favorite show. And so the way

959
00:44:38,354 --> 00:44:42,794
Speaker 2: that they set up this podcast, this Bethstead podcast is

960
00:44:42,834 --> 00:44:45,314
Speaker 2: what happened, what happened to my favorite show? Guys, tell

961
00:44:45,354 --> 00:44:48,114
Speaker 2: me all about it. And so they tell this story

962
00:44:48,274 --> 00:44:50,873
Speaker 2: about how on the podcast that this couple used to host,

963
00:44:50,954 --> 00:44:52,873
Speaker 2: one of the things they used to do was they

964
00:44:52,954 --> 00:44:56,674
Speaker 2: used to do audience dilemmas. I don't know what they're

965
00:44:56,674 --> 00:45:02,994
Speaker 2: talking about. And what happened was one of the relationships

966
00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:05,194
Speaker 2: that they had with a listener who started who wrote

967
00:45:05,194 --> 00:45:09,873
Speaker 2: in with a very particular dilemma turned creepy. The dilemma

968
00:45:10,114 --> 00:45:11,834
Speaker 2: is so good. I'm not going to give any spoilers,

969
00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:14,674
Speaker 2: but little taster is this woman ron in and said

970
00:45:15,074 --> 00:45:16,953
Speaker 2: that she was a young woman who's about to marry

971
00:45:16,994 --> 00:45:22,274
Speaker 2: a relatively conservative into a relatively conservative family, and she

972
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Speaker 2: had naked pictures of herself on the internet from a

973
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Speaker 2: shoot that she'd done for money when she was younger,

974
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Speaker 2: and she knew that this was going to be a

975
00:45:30,754 --> 00:45:35,834
Speaker 2: big sticking point for her boyfriend flash fiance's family and

976
00:45:35,874 --> 00:45:37,754
Speaker 2: whether or not she should tell them, and that was

977
00:45:37,754 --> 00:45:41,834
Speaker 2: the dilemma that came in, and things just get out

978
00:45:41,874 --> 00:45:45,474
Speaker 2: of control. It ends up with all kinds of drama.

979
00:45:45,594 --> 00:45:46,514
Speaker 2: It's so well told.

980
00:45:46,554 --> 00:45:46,913
Speaker 1: I love it.

981
00:45:46,954 --> 00:45:50,114
Speaker 2: But what I particularly like about it is the really

982
00:45:50,234 --> 00:45:54,634
Speaker 2: slippery nature of this parasocial relationship. Because when Monica's interviewing

983
00:45:54,634 --> 00:45:58,394
Speaker 2: Elizabeth and Andy about how they felt about building this audience,

984
00:45:58,434 --> 00:46:02,234
Speaker 2: in the relationship they had with their audience, it's very familiar.

985
00:46:02,274 --> 00:46:03,953
Speaker 2: You know, this is obviously our world and what we do,

986
00:46:04,714 --> 00:46:08,634
Speaker 2: but about the dangers of overstepping, and when they are

987
00:46:08,714 --> 00:46:11,433
Speaker 2: like giving life advice in a really serious way to

988
00:46:11,514 --> 00:46:15,434
Speaker 2: their audience members, like again with something we're relatively familiar with,

989
00:46:15,474 --> 00:46:17,834
Speaker 2: the why it's always good to keep dilemmas kind of not.

990
00:46:19,234 --> 00:46:21,434
Speaker 1: Too high stage, yeah yeah, yeah, But how it.

991
00:46:21,314 --> 00:46:24,434
Speaker 2: Turned into this very intense relationship, and then the comments

992
00:46:24,434 --> 00:46:26,234
Speaker 2: section took on a life of its own, and then

993
00:46:26,274 --> 00:46:30,074
Speaker 2: the person with the dilemma anyway, it's great and if

994
00:46:30,114 --> 00:46:32,194
Speaker 2: you've got time, it's one of those good podcasts to

995
00:46:32,234 --> 00:46:33,714
Speaker 2: just lean into and enjoy.

996
00:46:34,034 --> 00:46:34,834
Speaker 1: So I can't wait.

997
00:46:35,074 --> 00:46:37,634
Speaker 3: I reckon that the holidays are a good time to

998
00:46:37,674 --> 00:46:40,194
Speaker 3: get into those series that you haven't been able to

999
00:46:40,314 --> 00:46:42,754
Speaker 3: kind of deep dive into throughout the year. So the

1000
00:46:42,754 --> 00:46:44,913
Speaker 3: one I loved and look, it's a.

1001
00:46:44,834 --> 00:46:48,114
Speaker 4: Bit media, but I found it very interesting.

1002
00:46:47,754 --> 00:46:51,594
Speaker 3: And Holly told Claire about it, and then Claire has

1003
00:46:51,674 --> 00:46:54,114
Speaker 3: been ranting to me about it. It is called Anatomy

1004
00:46:54,154 --> 00:46:58,194
Speaker 3: of a Cancelation so BBC podcast and it is about

1005
00:46:58,234 --> 00:47:01,714
Speaker 3: a woman named Kate Clanchy in the UK who releases

1006
00:47:01,714 --> 00:47:03,714
Speaker 3: a book in twenty twenty one and it's called Some

1007
00:47:03,914 --> 00:47:06,393
Speaker 3: Kids I Taught and What They Taught Me. And she

1008
00:47:06,714 --> 00:47:08,993
Speaker 3: was this teacher who worked in their school with very

1009
00:47:09,314 --> 00:47:14,554
Speaker 3: diverse students, and she'd been working for decades like poet,

1010
00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:18,274
Speaker 3: she's a poet, and she would publish these kids poetry.

1011
00:47:19,074 --> 00:47:21,194
Speaker 3: And then she writes this book and it is.

1012
00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:24,473
Speaker 4: It wins all these awards and it's.

1013
00:47:24,994 --> 00:47:32,554
Speaker 3: Regard highly critically acclaimed, really well regarded. And then there's

1014
00:47:32,594 --> 00:47:36,474
Speaker 3: a good Reads review that's sort of negative and says,

1015
00:47:36,514 --> 00:47:38,634
Speaker 3: I'm actually really uncomfortable with much of language in this,

1016
00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:43,274
Speaker 3: and she decides to retweet that and say that's not true.

1017
00:47:43,274 --> 00:47:44,754
Speaker 3: These phrases aren't even in the book.

1018
00:47:45,434 --> 00:47:46,953
Speaker 4: Well are they in the book? Are they not?

1019
00:47:47,594 --> 00:47:55,594
Speaker 3: Basically, it's that moment when covid met the horrendous murder

1020
00:47:55,634 --> 00:48:01,674
Speaker 3: of George Floyd met like cancel culture, if you want

1021
00:48:01,714 --> 00:48:04,274
Speaker 3: to call it that. But it is so much more

1022
00:48:04,274 --> 00:48:08,594
Speaker 3: complicated than that, because then you hear she was criticized

1023
00:48:08,634 --> 00:48:11,953
Speaker 3: for certain descriptions of students, descriptions of teenagers.

1024
00:48:13,074 --> 00:48:16,393
Speaker 4: Was she being racist? Was she doing harm?

1025
00:48:16,434 --> 00:48:16,554
Speaker 1: Who?

1026
00:48:16,674 --> 00:48:18,354
Speaker 3: Was she doing harm too? What if the kids in

1027
00:48:18,394 --> 00:48:20,634
Speaker 3: the book were absolutely fine with it? What if they

1028
00:48:20,634 --> 00:48:26,433
Speaker 3: were anonymous? Like it's just such a meaty you go

1029
00:48:26,514 --> 00:48:29,314
Speaker 3: back and forth in a really really cool way. And

1030
00:48:29,354 --> 00:48:32,514
Speaker 3: I just think the way they tell the story is very.

1031
00:48:32,514 --> 00:48:36,274
Speaker 2: Nuanced because you hear that, you hear Kate Clancy's telling

1032
00:48:36,314 --> 00:48:39,433
Speaker 2: her own story in the first episode, and then you

1033
00:48:39,554 --> 00:48:42,474
Speaker 2: hear the people who canceled her so from their mouths,

1034
00:48:42,474 --> 00:48:45,314
Speaker 2: like how they felt it was so harmful, why they

1035
00:48:45,314 --> 00:48:47,513
Speaker 2: did it, And it's so it's so well told because

1036
00:48:47,514 --> 00:48:50,234
Speaker 2: it's not it doesn't have a point of view, like

1037
00:48:50,274 --> 00:48:52,674
Speaker 2: it's just laying out all this information for you to

1038
00:48:52,714 --> 00:48:55,554
Speaker 2: take on. And then they interview some of the students

1039
00:48:55,594 --> 00:48:57,874
Speaker 2: and it's just I thought it was brilliant.

1040
00:48:57,914 --> 00:49:01,033
Speaker 4: It's really interesting and what have you got?

1041
00:49:01,194 --> 00:49:03,873
Speaker 1: Okay, I got something a bit different, a bit late

1042
00:49:03,914 --> 00:49:06,953
Speaker 1: to the party. But I've been watching a TV show

1043
00:49:06,994 --> 00:49:13,434
Speaker 1: call Heated Rivalry HBO Max. It is so sexy.

1044
00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:14,354
Speaker 4: Okay.

1045
00:49:14,634 --> 00:49:16,914
Speaker 3: So I've heard a lot of people in the office

1046
00:49:16,914 --> 00:49:18,354
Speaker 3: talking about this. What's them premise?

1047
00:49:18,674 --> 00:49:21,393
Speaker 1: Okay. It's based off these books by an author named

1048
00:49:21,474 --> 00:49:25,714
Speaker 1: Rachel Reid. She wrote the series called Game Changes, and

1049
00:49:25,834 --> 00:49:29,034
Speaker 1: this show is based off her second book, Heated Rivalry.

1050
00:49:29,074 --> 00:49:32,434
Speaker 1: It's about these two rookie hockey players who are so

1051
00:49:32,434 --> 00:49:36,154
Speaker 1: so famous. One's named Shane, ones named Ilia, and their

1052
00:49:36,274 --> 00:49:38,474
Speaker 1: rivals and they're on rival teams and like they're the

1053
00:49:38,554 --> 00:49:39,794
Speaker 1: best in each of their teams.

1054
00:49:40,314 --> 00:49:41,434
Speaker 4: Is it like ice hockey?

1055
00:49:41,714 --> 00:49:45,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, ice hockey, yeah in Canada. And then they start

1056
00:49:45,394 --> 00:49:47,994
Speaker 1: to fall in love and then every time they and

1057
00:49:48,154 --> 00:49:51,434
Speaker 1: it like jumps into like all these huge time jumps

1058
00:49:51,474 --> 00:49:54,714
Speaker 1: because they only really compete like every four or six months.

1059
00:49:54,994 --> 00:49:56,994
Speaker 1: So you see like this time jump for six months

1060
00:49:57,074 --> 00:49:59,393
Speaker 1: and they have hot, steamy sex and then they don't

1061
00:49:59,394 --> 00:50:01,474
Speaker 1: talk for another six months and then they see each other again.

1062
00:50:01,634 --> 00:50:04,513
Speaker 1: So it's like the slow burn, and you see them

1063
00:50:04,594 --> 00:50:07,114
Speaker 1: slowly start off as very casual but then slowly start

1064
00:50:07,234 --> 00:50:09,994
Speaker 1: falling for each other. And there's like other characters in

1065
00:50:10,034 --> 00:50:12,674
Speaker 1: our other books that also have love storylined. It's about

1066
00:50:12,674 --> 00:50:14,594
Speaker 1: all these hockey players falling in love with each other essentially.

1067
00:50:14,634 --> 00:50:15,474
Speaker 1: So I'm sin.

1068
00:50:15,394 --> 00:50:19,794
Speaker 2: Seeing headlines around about like why straight women are obsessed

1069
00:50:19,834 --> 00:50:22,794
Speaker 2: with this queer ice hockey blah blah blah blah blah.

1070
00:50:22,794 --> 00:50:25,514
Speaker 2: It's the hottest TV show ever? Is it the hottest

1071
00:50:25,554 --> 00:50:26,274
Speaker 2: TV show ever?

1072
00:50:26,474 --> 00:50:30,514
Speaker 1: Yeah? It is so sexy, like they don't pull anything away,

1073
00:50:30,634 --> 00:50:34,754
Speaker 1: like you see everything. It is so good. WHOA Okay,

1074
00:50:35,674 --> 00:50:36,914
Speaker 1: don't watch it in front of kids.

1075
00:50:37,274 --> 00:50:39,954
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a This is a either a solo

1076
00:50:39,994 --> 00:50:43,274
Speaker 2: pleasure or I'm taking it as a solo pleasure.

1077
00:50:43,834 --> 00:50:44,834
Speaker 4: How much hockey?

1078
00:50:45,594 --> 00:50:49,554
Speaker 1: Zero hockey? Alright, you see the kind of like sweaty

1079
00:50:49,754 --> 00:50:52,274
Speaker 1: on ice or when to start and then it's all

1080
00:50:52,314 --> 00:50:54,514
Speaker 1: just in the bedroom. Also, don't really know what the

1081
00:50:54,514 --> 00:50:59,274
Speaker 1: plot's about. It's fine. I do have an extra reco

1082
00:50:59,434 --> 00:51:02,234
Speaker 1: for out louders, and it's to recommend you wish my

1083
00:51:02,274 --> 00:51:06,154
Speaker 1: good friends Holly and Jesse a happy birthday. This weekend.

1084
00:51:06,514 --> 00:51:08,474
Speaker 1: We have a Saturdy Day and Sunday birthday we do.

1085
00:51:08,554 --> 00:51:09,393
Speaker 1: It's weird, is it?

1086
00:51:09,434 --> 00:51:13,114
Speaker 3: We do Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, I'll be at the whegels.

1087
00:51:14,874 --> 00:51:17,754
Speaker 1: Do you both have a Christmas lish and a Birthday list?

1088
00:51:18,234 --> 00:51:20,433
Speaker 4: No, I just have a list of like you've got

1089
00:51:20,474 --> 00:51:23,194
Speaker 4: to get me obviously more like some.

1090
00:51:24,834 --> 00:51:27,114
Speaker 1: I've schooled children about this, but.

1091
00:51:27,034 --> 00:51:30,873
Speaker 3: I have been sending that that around. But Holly and

1092
00:51:30,914 --> 00:51:32,354
Speaker 3: I are going a bit low key for our birthday

1093
00:51:32,354 --> 00:51:34,674
Speaker 3: this year, after yelling about it and how everyone forgets

1094
00:51:34,674 --> 00:51:35,074
Speaker 3: about us.

1095
00:51:35,114 --> 00:51:37,953
Speaker 4: We're like, you know what, We just want to relax, just.

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Speaker 1: Want to chill.

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00:51:38,674 --> 00:51:43,554
Speaker 2: But yes, it's it's the big Out Loud host birthday party,

1098
00:51:44,074 --> 00:51:47,514
Speaker 2: a massive thank you, like I can't. It's been a

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00:51:47,554 --> 00:51:50,434
Speaker 2: massive year for out Loud in lots of different ways.

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00:51:50,554 --> 00:51:53,473
Speaker 2: You know, we've been through some big changes, We've been

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00:51:53,474 --> 00:51:58,674
Speaker 2: through some big things to it on the road with us,

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Speaker 2: which was just extraordinary. Yesterday's subscriber episode is full of

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00:52:04,754 --> 00:52:06,953
Speaker 2: some of our glimmers, our bests of the year that we.

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Speaker 1: Hope to share at this time.

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00:52:08,834 --> 00:52:12,834
Speaker 2: That's so weird and complicated with for everybody, but we

1106
00:52:12,914 --> 00:52:16,553
Speaker 2: would be nowhere with our outlauders and I hope you're

1107
00:52:16,674 --> 00:52:18,873
Speaker 2: ending the year with the people you want to be with.

1108
00:52:20,114 --> 00:52:22,433
Speaker 2: And on that note, a massive thank you to our

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00:52:22,474 --> 00:52:25,554
Speaker 2: team because without these I was going to say bitches,

1110
00:52:25,594 --> 00:52:30,274
Speaker 2: but does Josh qualify? I thus see, without this posse

1111
00:52:30,434 --> 00:52:35,234
Speaker 2: of insanely talented, hard working, tolerant, funny, clever women and

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00:52:35,314 --> 00:52:37,873
Speaker 2: one man, we could not put this show out. So

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00:52:38,394 --> 00:52:40,274
Speaker 2: for the last time, sort of the last time for

1114
00:52:40,274 --> 00:52:43,074
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, M and Jesse read us out.

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Speaker 3: Group executive producer Ruth Devine, executive producer Sashatanic, our senior

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00:52:49,754 --> 00:52:51,994
Speaker 3: audio producer is Leah Porgies.

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00:52:51,674 --> 00:52:54,954
Speaker 1: Our video producer is Josh Green, and our junior content

1118
00:52:55,034 --> 00:52:56,754
Speaker 1: producer is Tessa Kodovich.

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Speaker 2: They're not with us, but our fearless leader and creator,

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Speaker 2: Mia Friedman.

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00:53:03,154 --> 00:53:04,194
Speaker 1: The reason why we're looking.

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00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:06,514
Speaker 2: We have to thank her so much too, And of

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00:53:06,554 --> 00:53:11,114
Speaker 2: course the other person on this team, Amelia Lester. What

1124
00:53:11,234 --> 00:53:14,234
Speaker 2: a year, it's been such a joy. And special shout

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00:53:14,274 --> 00:53:18,033
Speaker 2: out to our EP, M Gazillas, who is on Matt

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00:53:18,154 --> 00:53:22,634
Speaker 2: leave as we go into Christmas with her beautiful little baby, Liliana.

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00:53:23,634 --> 00:53:26,393
Speaker 2: So all of you guys have made it amazing for

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00:53:26,474 --> 00:53:27,993
Speaker 2: us to put the show together this year, and we're

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00:53:27,994 --> 00:53:28,554
Speaker 2: so grateful.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it. Do we have anything else to say, Well, just.

1131
00:53:32,794 --> 00:53:35,154
Speaker 3: That our summer series is going to kick off on

1132
00:53:35,514 --> 00:53:40,234
Speaker 3: Monday with some fresh episodes, so they those top recommendations,

1133
00:53:40,274 --> 00:53:42,314
Speaker 3: and we've thrown in a bunch of new ones as well.

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00:53:42,394 --> 00:53:43,834
Speaker 2: And I said we were going away, but we're not

1135
00:53:43,874 --> 00:53:44,834
Speaker 2: actually going away at all.

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00:53:44,954 --> 00:53:49,994
Speaker 3: No, No, we'll be back with regular shows on January

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Speaker 3: the twelfth. But until then, there'll be lots of stuff

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Speaker 3: dropping in your feed and we'll miss you out louders.

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Speaker 1: We've got a big surprise. But when we come home

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00:53:59,274 --> 00:54:02,834
Speaker 1: we tell you about it. No, until then, will you

1141
00:54:02,874 --> 00:54:04,994
Speaker 1: tell me? Yeah, we'll whisper it to you later.

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Speaker 5: Big love, goodbye bye.

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Speaker 1: Mamma.

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00:54:19,034 --> 00:54:21,993
Speaker 2: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which

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Speaker 2: we've recorded this podcast.