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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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Speaker 3: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Tamorrow

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Speaker 3: Holland and I'm the fashion editor here at Mamma Mia.

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Speaker 2: week we talk all things fashion, helping you decide what

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hello, we have so much to get through today, but

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Speaker 2: I have been dying to ask you on Mike your

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Speaker 2: thoughts and takeaways on Coture Fashion Week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is all over my feed obviously, and I

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Speaker 3: don't really remember. Like I've been writing about Curture Week

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Speaker 2: So true.

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Speaker 3: So, in case you don't know, with a fashion house

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Speaker 3: handmade and hand constructed, and they show these collections twice

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Speaker 3: society that can afford to buy curture. So we're talking

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Speaker 3: anywhere between thirty to fifty thousand and upwards for a gown,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so tell me what was your pe takeaway?

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Speaker 3: Tell me the first standout moment for me was the

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Speaker 3: Scaparelli Show. So Daniel Rosebery is an American designer and

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Speaker 1: But this was the show where I was like, whoa,

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Speaker 3: It was just spectacular, every single look, and I have

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know logistically how that happens.

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Speaker 1: Did you know the dress? Did you see that? It

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Speaker 2: One of my favorites was Amelia Gray. She was wearing

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Speaker 3: So the reason I really want to unpack to your

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Speaker 3: bouquets looked like. Okay, So that so Taylor Swift's wedding bouquets,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm connecting the dots.

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Speaker 3: But potentially her gown might have had a bit of lace.

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Speaker 1: What revenge dress?

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Speaker 2: Nos So mattil Bluzzy. Famously, Gabrielle Chanel wasn't married, so

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Speaker 2: never really see Ready to Wear on the Couture runway, right.

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Speaker 3: Really not in this format. It's really quite revolutionary if

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Speaker 2: have I read somewhere that you predicted Taylor Swift's wedding dress.

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Speaker 3: I did call it, but I wasn't like the first

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Speaker 1: I'm going to own it. I'm going to own it.

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Speaker 3: So I wrote an article for Mama Mia a few

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Speaker 3: A source close to the Hollywood Reporter had said that

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Speaker 1: Like you know, faverytail aesthetic. I was like, door feels right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so date of recording, we actually don't know

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Speaker 3: There haven't been. There's only been like some shonky aiges.

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Speaker 1: And did get me there it is? Oh, I'm underwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: And then I was so glad to see that it

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Speaker 1: was Ai. Did you get duped by one of those?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But it was like a Vivian Westwood or something. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's confirmed. For Jonathan Addison actually designed Taylor's dress.

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Speaker 2: The term what do you actually think it looks like?

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Speaker 3: My prediction in the piece was that I had said

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Speaker 3: I did think she would wear Jonathan Anderson. He's done

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, tam, we have both brought three pieces to

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to start with This is no surprise

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Speaker 3: Good in this style of pant and it was like

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00:22:02,874 --> 00:22:04,874
Speaker 3: one I found one pair from I think it was

438
00:22:04,994 --> 00:22:07,313
Speaker 3: Nude Lucy, and that was like the gateway drug to

439
00:22:07,354 --> 00:22:09,954
Speaker 3: finding more and ever since then, it's been it's been

440
00:22:10,354 --> 00:22:13,314
Speaker 3: four years and I'm still wearing this and hunting down

441
00:22:13,314 --> 00:22:15,634
Speaker 3: this style. Like everywhere I go, every shop I go into,

442
00:22:15,674 --> 00:22:18,994
Speaker 3: I'm always looking for another pair. I've gathered several in

443
00:22:19,034 --> 00:22:22,234
Speaker 3: my wardrobe and I find that I can wear them casually.

444
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:25,033
Speaker 3: I wear them out to dinner, I wear them, you know,

445
00:22:25,194 --> 00:22:28,274
Speaker 3: day to day with my kid like and then I'm

446
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:30,474
Speaker 3: so known for this style of pant now that I

447
00:22:30,514 --> 00:22:33,274
Speaker 3: actually have people like dm me on Instagram saying where

448
00:22:33,314 --> 00:22:34,033
Speaker 3: can I find them?

449
00:22:34,434 --> 00:22:37,194
Speaker 1: Like it's become a real stinged.

450
00:22:36,594 --> 00:22:38,594
Speaker 2: Or like the pants you're wearing today are amazing as well.

451
00:22:38,754 --> 00:22:41,194
Speaker 3: Know what I'm wearing like a police say pant, and

452
00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:43,274
Speaker 3: I would these aren't nit, but I would almost put

453
00:22:43,314 --> 00:22:45,354
Speaker 3: these in the same I call them nitpants, but I

454
00:22:45,394 --> 00:22:47,634
Speaker 3: put them in the same category of like a loose

455
00:22:47,674 --> 00:22:51,154
Speaker 3: flared pant. I have so many of these in different weights.

456
00:22:51,154 --> 00:22:53,234
Speaker 3: I have lace ones, I have knitted ones. I have

457
00:22:53,594 --> 00:22:56,114
Speaker 3: like crochet ones. I just bought a pair from Maury

458
00:22:56,114 --> 00:22:58,554
Speaker 3: and Eve that are crochet that I can't wait to

459
00:22:58,594 --> 00:22:59,234
Speaker 3: wear in the summer.

460
00:22:59,314 --> 00:23:01,554
Speaker 1: And they really are, like my thing now, really.

461
00:23:01,394 --> 00:23:04,074
Speaker 2: Is part of your I guess like style DNA, isn't it? Yeah?

462
00:23:04,114 --> 00:23:04,434
Speaker 2: It is.

463
00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:06,353
Speaker 1: Style DNA is a really good way of putting it.

464
00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:08,234
Speaker 1: So that's my first. I love the thing.

465
00:23:08,634 --> 00:23:11,553
Speaker 2: I love the story special to me because gosh that

466
00:23:11,594 --> 00:23:14,314
Speaker 2: time's hard, isn't it just postpard and trying to redress

467
00:23:14,314 --> 00:23:16,274
Speaker 2: and refigure out your style? Right?

468
00:23:16,674 --> 00:23:20,114
Speaker 1: Definitely? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So what have you

469
00:23:20,154 --> 00:23:20,634
Speaker 1: got for me?

470
00:23:20,914 --> 00:23:22,034
Speaker 4: My first is.

471
00:23:22,114 --> 00:23:28,194
Speaker 2: A nineteen eighties vintage wire cell bag. Now this sounds

472
00:23:28,354 --> 00:23:31,034
Speaker 2: I actually got the idea for. Remember Tina Abbe Sacra

473
00:23:31,234 --> 00:23:32,994
Speaker 2: was on the pod and she spoke about one of

474
00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:37,354
Speaker 2: her personal pieces in her wardrobe was her Chanel flat bag.

475
00:23:38,074 --> 00:23:40,194
Speaker 2: Mine isn't worth that. This isn't a piece that.

476
00:23:40,154 --> 00:23:43,034
Speaker 4: Sort of appreciates in value, the actual value of the product.

477
00:23:43,034 --> 00:23:45,554
Speaker 2: I was looking on depop last night. It's around five

478
00:23:45,634 --> 00:23:48,634
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. But the story behind getting this bag, I

479
00:23:48,714 --> 00:23:51,514
Speaker 2: was in Florence. I was at my first fashion job

480
00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:55,314
Speaker 2: at a creative agency, and i'd take an annual leave.

481
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,954
Speaker 2: I was traveling. It was one of my first pieces

482
00:23:57,994 --> 00:24:00,074
Speaker 2: where I just I got a promotion at work, my

483
00:24:00,154 --> 00:24:02,634
Speaker 2: first promotion, my first trip to Europe. It was just

484
00:24:02,714 --> 00:24:05,513
Speaker 2: my first for a lot of things, and purchasing my

485
00:24:05,714 --> 00:24:08,914
Speaker 2: first designer bag. Yes it was vintage, Yes it was

486
00:24:09,394 --> 00:24:12,273
Speaker 2: forty years old, but I just loved the piece and

487
00:24:12,314 --> 00:24:15,154
Speaker 2: I still wear it today. It's this shoulder bag, it's

488
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:18,514
Speaker 2: this navy, it's got the really old logo, it's falling apart,

489
00:24:19,074 --> 00:24:22,714
Speaker 2: the oild liasole logo. Yeah, but the story behind it.

490
00:24:22,914 --> 00:24:26,394
Speaker 2: Just being proud that I could have found my footing

491
00:24:26,394 --> 00:24:30,513
Speaker 2: within the fashion industry. And I love the story behind

492
00:24:30,794 --> 00:24:33,553
Speaker 2: where this bag's been, Like someone in Florence was wearing

493
00:24:33,554 --> 00:24:35,634
Speaker 2: it and now it's in rural and yourself Wales with me.

494
00:24:36,034 --> 00:24:38,594
Speaker 2: This has got this history behind.

495
00:24:38,234 --> 00:24:40,514
Speaker 3: It that's really beautiful and you can pass it down

496
00:24:40,554 --> 00:24:42,593
Speaker 3: to your girls, even if it's falling apart.

497
00:24:42,874 --> 00:24:44,714
Speaker 1: Yeah, your first.

498
00:24:44,394 --> 00:24:47,434
Speaker 2: Designer bag, what's your second?

499
00:24:47,754 --> 00:24:50,793
Speaker 3: So my second thing I was thinking about like another

500
00:24:50,914 --> 00:24:53,353
Speaker 3: I sort of thought more in categories of clothing rather

501
00:24:53,434 --> 00:24:56,354
Speaker 3: than specific things, because I tend to dress that way,

502
00:24:56,674 --> 00:24:59,474
Speaker 3: like I'm a collector of fashion. Rather than like going

503
00:24:59,514 --> 00:25:02,034
Speaker 3: for one piece, I tend to find something I love,

504
00:25:02,114 --> 00:25:04,634
Speaker 3: a style I love, and then get by lots of

505
00:25:04,634 --> 00:25:06,754
Speaker 3: it or acquire lots of it, or always be looking

506
00:25:06,754 --> 00:25:09,874
Speaker 3: for that thing again. So the next thing I want

507
00:25:09,914 --> 00:25:14,714
Speaker 3: to bring is like fancy robe, dresses or capes, that

508
00:25:14,794 --> 00:25:17,154
Speaker 3: kind of thing. I'm putting it in that category and

509
00:25:17,194 --> 00:25:20,074
Speaker 3: there's two brands I want to call out. One is Antipodine,

510
00:25:20,434 --> 00:25:23,434
Speaker 3: the Australian brand, which I wear a lot of and collect,

511
00:25:23,914 --> 00:25:28,474
Speaker 3: and they do these beautiful embroidered robes. The hand made

512
00:25:28,634 --> 00:25:31,514
Speaker 3: and the designs are just stunning, and you can wear them.

513
00:25:31,754 --> 00:25:33,754
Speaker 3: It's one of their signature pieces. And you can wear

514
00:25:33,754 --> 00:25:37,394
Speaker 3: them as dresses like little mini dresses or wrap dresses,

515
00:25:37,634 --> 00:25:39,434
Speaker 3: or you can wear them open. I like to wear

516
00:25:39,474 --> 00:25:41,513
Speaker 3: them open as jackets, you know, and I've done that

517
00:25:41,594 --> 00:25:43,914
Speaker 3: a lot with jeans and a little body suit underneath.

518
00:25:44,274 --> 00:25:45,674
Speaker 3: And then the other brand I want to call out

519
00:25:45,754 --> 00:25:48,794
Speaker 3: is Lucy Folk, another of my favorite designers. And when

520
00:25:48,834 --> 00:25:51,793
Speaker 3: I was pregnant, I bought myself a push present, and

521
00:25:51,874 --> 00:25:54,754
Speaker 3: I bought myself. I'd been eyeing off one of Lucy

522
00:25:54,834 --> 00:25:59,234
Speaker 3: Folks robe dresses, like the Terry Towling ones for years,

523
00:25:59,234 --> 00:26:01,474
Speaker 3: and I finally just said, I'm doing it. I'm buying

524
00:26:01,474 --> 00:26:04,914
Speaker 3: myself this robe. And I did, and I get so

525
00:26:05,074 --> 00:26:07,474
Speaker 3: much joy out of wearing that robe and looking at

526
00:26:07,514 --> 00:26:09,714
Speaker 3: it in my closet. It's just one of those these

527
00:26:09,754 --> 00:26:12,634
Speaker 3: pieces are like I open my closet and they're all together,

528
00:26:12,914 --> 00:26:15,354
Speaker 3: My beautiful robes are together, and they make me so happy,

529
00:26:15,554 --> 00:26:17,394
Speaker 3: and I'm like, they make me happy now, and they're

530
00:26:17,394 --> 00:26:18,994
Speaker 3: going to make me happy when I'm a sixty year

531
00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:19,714
Speaker 3: old woman.

532
00:26:19,474 --> 00:26:20,834
Speaker 1: And I'm still wearing them.

533
00:26:20,834 --> 00:26:23,114
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I feel like when I found that,

534
00:26:23,274 --> 00:26:25,034
Speaker 3: like when I found the loose pants and I found

535
00:26:25,074 --> 00:26:29,634
Speaker 3: the robes, I was like, this is me now, yesscribing

536
00:26:29,834 --> 00:26:30,434
Speaker 3: you like.

537
00:26:30,394 --> 00:26:32,594
Speaker 2: If someone had to draw a picture of you, like

538
00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,354
Speaker 2: an illustration, that's.

539
00:26:34,194 --> 00:26:34,674
Speaker 4: What I do.

540
00:26:37,034 --> 00:26:40,033
Speaker 3: I deviated, But it's a really nice thing to find

541
00:26:40,194 --> 00:26:43,674
Speaker 3: what feels signature like Heartland territory to you and then

542
00:26:43,754 --> 00:26:45,754
Speaker 3: just kind of repeat that. That's going to be something

543
00:26:45,794 --> 00:26:49,954
Speaker 3: that comes up a lot in this uniform. I hope

544
00:26:49,954 --> 00:26:51,754
Speaker 3: it never goes out of fashion, but I think that's

545
00:26:51,794 --> 00:26:53,314
Speaker 3: the whole point is it's not going to go out

546
00:26:53,354 --> 00:26:56,314
Speaker 3: of style if it feels right to you, that's right, right, Yeah.

547
00:26:56,394 --> 00:26:58,914
Speaker 2: That's actually a bit like my second piece that I'm

548
00:26:58,914 --> 00:27:03,034
Speaker 2: bringing to the pod. It is a Wardrobe NYC tuxedo blazer.

549
00:27:03,634 --> 00:27:06,434
Speaker 2: We were talking about Wardrobe NYC not long ago, and

550
00:27:06,474 --> 00:27:08,474
Speaker 2: they're collaborating with H and M, and I think it's

551
00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:10,593
Speaker 2: what brought this piece top of mine. But it's one

552
00:27:10,634 --> 00:27:12,234
Speaker 2: of those pieces, like you said, I look at and

553
00:27:12,274 --> 00:27:15,554
Speaker 2: it brings me so much joy. I purchased this about

554
00:27:15,594 --> 00:27:19,154
Speaker 2: six years ago secondhand on eBay and it's still such

555
00:27:19,194 --> 00:27:25,594
Speaker 2: good quality. It's a structured tuxedo style wool blend jacket

556
00:27:25,914 --> 00:27:29,354
Speaker 2: and the lapels are saturn, so it's quite formal.

557
00:27:29,914 --> 00:27:32,793
Speaker 4: But I feel so much confidence when I wear it.

558
00:27:32,794 --> 00:27:35,754
Speaker 2: I'd wear it with say a black cigarette pant or

559
00:27:35,794 --> 00:27:38,874
Speaker 2: a midi skirt. It's always my go to jacket if

560
00:27:38,914 --> 00:27:41,034
Speaker 2: I'm going to a wedding and I just need something

561
00:27:41,074 --> 00:27:43,354
Speaker 2: to cover up my shoulders with. Yeah, but it's just

562
00:27:43,434 --> 00:27:46,074
Speaker 2: the confidence I get from wearing a piece like that.

563
00:27:46,154 --> 00:27:50,553
Speaker 2: You know, it's actually quite masculine looking, being tuxedo style,

564
00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:52,914
Speaker 2: but this sexiness it gives me as well.

565
00:27:53,274 --> 00:27:54,074
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's in.

566
00:27:54,074 --> 00:27:57,274
Speaker 3: The tailoring, isn't it. That's what I think Christine Sentenara

567
00:27:57,474 --> 00:27:59,514
Speaker 3: the woman behind Wardrobe, and no, I see she does

568
00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:03,514
Speaker 3: that so well. That sexy meets masculine tailoring is so her.

569
00:28:03,474 --> 00:28:05,634
Speaker 4: Thing, And it goes back to what we were talking about.

570
00:28:05,754 --> 00:28:09,114
Speaker 2: It shows buying good quality pieces they last I've had

571
00:28:09,154 --> 00:28:11,874
Speaker 2: it for six years. It was secondhand. The blazer just

572
00:28:11,874 --> 00:28:13,954
Speaker 2: a side note that you're wearing now is incredible.

573
00:28:14,154 --> 00:28:16,954
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's Regina Pio, a designer from London, and I

574
00:28:16,994 --> 00:28:19,154
Speaker 3: spent quite a bit of money on it, maybe five

575
00:28:19,274 --> 00:28:21,114
Speaker 3: six years ago and I wear it all the time

576
00:28:21,154 --> 00:28:23,674
Speaker 3: and it's you know, held it, it's held itself.

577
00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:24,914
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, amazing.

578
00:28:25,114 --> 00:28:27,314
Speaker 4: So that's my second hit me with your third term,

579
00:28:27,394 --> 00:28:27,954
Speaker 4: what's your piece?

580
00:28:28,154 --> 00:28:31,033
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about jewelry now because talking

581
00:28:31,074 --> 00:28:33,554
Speaker 3: about my like favorite things in my closet, I can't

582
00:28:33,634 --> 00:28:37,794
Speaker 3: not talk about gold jewelry. I mean, I'm positively jangling

583
00:28:37,834 --> 00:28:38,034
Speaker 3: with it.

584
00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:39,874
Speaker 1: Can you hear that? I'm like, you know, a little

585
00:28:39,874 --> 00:28:40,474
Speaker 1: bauer Berd.

586
00:28:40,514 --> 00:28:42,794
Speaker 3: I love my gold jewelry and I think, you know,

587
00:28:42,834 --> 00:28:46,154
Speaker 3: we were talking about signature style and I couldn't feel

588
00:28:46,154 --> 00:28:49,594
Speaker 3: comfortable in my clothes without you know, a scattering of

589
00:28:49,714 --> 00:28:52,034
Speaker 3: gold jewelry. It always just I've got always got my

590
00:28:52,154 --> 00:28:55,514
Speaker 3: rings and my necklaces and my stacked ear rings, and

591
00:28:55,554 --> 00:28:57,794
Speaker 3: I find a lot of joy in the every day

592
00:28:57,834 --> 00:29:00,714
Speaker 3: and just putting them on and changing them up. But

593
00:29:00,754 --> 00:29:03,234
Speaker 3: I always have my oh, I generally always have my

594
00:29:03,314 --> 00:29:06,154
Speaker 3: two layered chains. One of them is from one of

595
00:29:06,234 --> 00:29:09,954
Speaker 3: my favorite Australia jewelry brands, which is ycl and I

596
00:29:09,994 --> 00:29:13,074
Speaker 3: could not love this brand more I just really resonate

597
00:29:13,114 --> 00:29:16,074
Speaker 3: with what they do. They do these beautiful pendants that

598
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:20,914
Speaker 3: have meaning to them and they're not precious metals and jewels,

599
00:29:20,914 --> 00:29:24,674
Speaker 3: but they have the look of high end, expensive jewelry

600
00:29:24,714 --> 00:29:27,194
Speaker 3: and they really last. I've been wearing these for years

601
00:29:27,234 --> 00:29:30,434
Speaker 3: in the shower every day. Yeah, and they don't they

602
00:29:30,514 --> 00:29:33,394
Speaker 3: don't tarnish. So amazing. But my long chain, which is

603
00:29:33,434 --> 00:29:38,074
Speaker 3: probably the thing I get the most DMS and questions about.

604
00:29:38,154 --> 00:29:42,794
Speaker 3: It's a chunky gold like men's chain which I put

605
00:29:42,794 --> 00:29:45,514
Speaker 3: a little pendon on the end of from YICL. But

606
00:29:45,554 --> 00:29:48,674
Speaker 3: the chain itself, it's a really funny story. People are

607
00:29:48,674 --> 00:29:51,834
Speaker 3: always asking where it's from, and I'm like, oh, I

608
00:29:51,954 --> 00:29:55,034
Speaker 3: found it. So I found this chain when I was

609
00:29:56,074 --> 00:29:59,034
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, eighteen or nineteen years old, and I

610
00:29:59,114 --> 00:30:02,554
Speaker 3: was out clubbing with friends. And because I always say

611
00:30:02,554 --> 00:30:04,874
Speaker 3: because I'm close to the ground, I can see things

612
00:30:04,874 --> 00:30:07,594
Speaker 3: on the ground where it's always said, I spot like

613
00:30:07,594 --> 00:30:09,274
Speaker 3: a gold coin on the ground and pick it up.

614
00:30:09,314 --> 00:30:11,234
Speaker 1: So I saw this chain and I was with my friend.

615
00:30:11,514 --> 00:30:13,914
Speaker 3: I was with a friend and we both spotted this

616
00:30:14,034 --> 00:30:16,514
Speaker 3: chain on the ground and I was like, oh, I

617
00:30:16,634 --> 00:30:18,954
Speaker 3: picked it up, and I was like, that's a gold,

618
00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:21,474
Speaker 3: proper gold chain.

619
00:30:21,634 --> 00:30:24,994
Speaker 1: And I've had it valued. It's worth like thousands of dollars.

620
00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:26,834
Speaker 2: It is the chain that always catches my.

621
00:30:28,514 --> 00:30:31,354
Speaker 3: Just, some poor guy in the cross lost that many

622
00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:33,594
Speaker 3: many years ago. I'm really sorry, but it's mine now.

623
00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:36,114
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I love my I love my jewelry,

624
00:30:36,194 --> 00:30:38,154
Speaker 3: and I think jewelry trends come and go and I'm

625
00:30:38,154 --> 00:30:40,754
Speaker 3: always excited about them, always excited to write about them.

626
00:30:40,754 --> 00:30:42,754
Speaker 3: But I always come back to gold, even when Silva

627
00:30:42,874 --> 00:30:44,594
Speaker 3: was having a big moment. I do really like it,

628
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:46,114
Speaker 3: but I just don't love it on myself.

629
00:30:46,394 --> 00:30:48,354
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. It is so part of you.

630
00:30:48,634 --> 00:30:49,594
Speaker 1: So what's your third thing?

631
00:30:49,674 --> 00:30:51,794
Speaker 2: My third is, Oh, this one took me a while

632
00:30:51,794 --> 00:30:54,394
Speaker 2: to think of. I was going to say my gene collection.

633
00:30:54,714 --> 00:30:58,434
Speaker 2: But it's actually my mom's Calvin Klein jeans that she

634
00:30:58,594 --> 00:31:02,234
Speaker 2: passed down. So they're from the eighties and I was

635
00:31:02,234 --> 00:31:05,274
Speaker 2: talking to my mum about these jeans. She purchased them.

636
00:31:05,274 --> 00:31:09,554
Speaker 2: They're spray on skin light blue Calvin clients. But it

637
00:31:09,594 --> 00:31:14,514
Speaker 2: was the Brookshield's eighties commercial. Remember, nothing can come between

638
00:31:14,514 --> 00:31:17,274
Speaker 2: me and my Calvins. That was the ad that convinced

639
00:31:17,314 --> 00:31:19,154
Speaker 2: my mum to purchase these jeans.

640
00:31:18,914 --> 00:31:20,114
Speaker 1: And many many other women.

641
00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:23,634
Speaker 2: I'm sure the jean at the time, and yeah, the eighties,

642
00:31:23,714 --> 00:31:26,914
Speaker 2: so to think she was wearing them then, I'm wearing

643
00:31:26,954 --> 00:31:28,634
Speaker 2: them now. I don't wear them as much because when

644
00:31:28,674 --> 00:31:31,674
Speaker 2: I meet they're spray on. They're really really tight, which

645
00:31:31,714 --> 00:31:34,354
Speaker 2: you know skinny is in but and you know, jeans

646
00:31:34,354 --> 00:31:36,434
Speaker 2: are like we always say evergreen, you can wear whatever

647
00:31:36,514 --> 00:31:38,194
Speaker 2: you want. But they're just sort of.

648
00:31:38,954 --> 00:31:41,034
Speaker 4: So tight at the moment and pretty small for me

649
00:31:41,034 --> 00:31:41,314
Speaker 4: as well.

650
00:31:41,354 --> 00:31:43,114
Speaker 2: But I love that they're in my wardrobe and I

651
00:31:43,114 --> 00:31:44,994
Speaker 2: can pass them down to my kids as well. And

652
00:31:45,034 --> 00:31:47,914
Speaker 2: it's crazy like they've just faded in the most perfect way.

653
00:31:48,074 --> 00:31:50,234
Speaker 2: There's like a slight stain on the bottom, and I'm thinking,

654
00:31:50,274 --> 00:31:52,114
Speaker 2: what was my mum doing, like she was out wearing

655
00:31:52,154 --> 00:31:55,514
Speaker 2: these jeans together? That state that is so the relevancy

656
00:31:55,634 --> 00:31:58,354
Speaker 2: of Calvin Klein and how like that that look is

657
00:31:58,514 --> 00:32:01,434
Speaker 2: very much my style DNA, where it's the jeans, it's

658
00:32:01,434 --> 00:32:04,394
Speaker 2: the Calvins with the white singleer or the baby tea.

659
00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:06,634
Speaker 3: You're such a dnim girl, and it makes sense that

660
00:32:06,714 --> 00:32:09,114
Speaker 3: your mum, yes, two your mummies too.

661
00:32:09,154 --> 00:32:11,674
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, so that's my third ah that

662
00:32:11,794 --> 00:32:14,154
Speaker 1: is sentimental, so that's.

663
00:32:13,914 --> 00:32:16,594
Speaker 2: Our wardrobe, and that's been interesting. It makes so much

664
00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:18,554
Speaker 2: sense now about who you are t ham and what

665
00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:22,994
Speaker 2: you wear. Can we now talk about styling lessons? I suppose,

666
00:32:23,034 --> 00:32:26,194
Speaker 2: because do you find like your styles evolved over time? Right?

667
00:32:26,394 --> 00:32:26,714
Speaker 4: Yeah?

668
00:32:26,754 --> 00:32:29,474
Speaker 2: What are some key learnings that you've come across over

669
00:32:29,514 --> 00:32:32,474
Speaker 2: your time or styling yourself, styling others as well as

670
00:32:32,474 --> 00:32:35,154
Speaker 2: a stylist, But I guess more yourself. Can you talk

671
00:32:35,194 --> 00:32:37,354
Speaker 2: me through, like any lessons that you've learned, or any

672
00:32:37,434 --> 00:32:38,794
Speaker 2: mistakes that you've made.

673
00:32:39,594 --> 00:32:42,154
Speaker 3: I just sold a couple of things on deepop and

674
00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:45,194
Speaker 3: I think that was a really interesting exercise because it

675
00:32:45,394 --> 00:32:48,554
Speaker 3: kind of showed me what I no longer need in

676
00:32:48,594 --> 00:32:51,554
Speaker 3: my wardrobe. It wasn't even like a clearing out of

677
00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:55,114
Speaker 3: my current wardrobe. It was like old stuff that I've

678
00:32:55,154 --> 00:32:57,434
Speaker 3: just been keeping in boxes and thinking, oh, maybe I'll

679
00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:58,754
Speaker 3: wear that one day. And I have to get really

680
00:32:58,794 --> 00:33:00,794
Speaker 3: honest with myself and be like, this is no longer me.

681
00:33:01,434 --> 00:33:02,634
Speaker 3: I've evolved, this is no.

682
00:33:02,634 --> 00:33:03,354
Speaker 1: Longer for me.

683
00:33:03,874 --> 00:33:09,034
Speaker 3: And I got rid of three utili arrian jumpsuits and

684
00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:11,594
Speaker 3: it really took me back to a time where I

685
00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:14,794
Speaker 3: was trying to really simplify my style and I think

686
00:33:14,834 --> 00:33:15,594
Speaker 3: I was looking for.

687
00:33:15,634 --> 00:33:18,314
Speaker 1: I think I was in my mid to late twenties

688
00:33:18,354 --> 00:33:20,354
Speaker 1: and I was like, maybe I'm a jumpsuit girl.

689
00:33:20,754 --> 00:33:23,194
Speaker 3: Maybe I just need to be one and done and

690
00:33:23,234 --> 00:33:26,634
Speaker 3: wear jumpsuits. And it was like I look back at that,

691
00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:29,394
Speaker 3: and I go, that wasn't it for me. I was

692
00:33:29,554 --> 00:33:32,794
Speaker 3: trying something new. And it's not that there's anything wrong

693
00:33:32,834 --> 00:33:37,474
Speaker 3: with jumpsuits, but I realized, actually what I was responding

694
00:33:37,514 --> 00:33:40,914
Speaker 3: to there was a sense of simplicity and ease that

695
00:33:40,994 --> 00:33:44,794
Speaker 3: I found in other ways now. So for example, when

696
00:33:44,794 --> 00:33:47,114
Speaker 3: I want to be one and done with dressing now

697
00:33:47,274 --> 00:33:50,834
Speaker 3: as a more mature woman, I love to throw on

698
00:33:50,994 --> 00:33:56,554
Speaker 3: like a long sleeve, long hem bohemian maxi dress. I

699
00:33:56,594 --> 00:33:58,834
Speaker 3: don't mean like a really frilly, flowery one. I mean

700
00:33:58,874 --> 00:34:01,874
Speaker 3: like a chic one. That's how I do that. You know,

701
00:34:01,914 --> 00:34:03,594
Speaker 3: if I want to just like throw in and go,

702
00:34:04,194 --> 00:34:06,554
Speaker 3: it's that dress for me. It's like that feels more

703
00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:09,154
Speaker 3: right for me. Jumpsuit, isn't it? And I guess the

704
00:34:09,234 --> 00:34:11,873
Speaker 3: lesson I'm trying to say, like, sometimes you try things

705
00:34:11,913 --> 00:34:13,593
Speaker 3: and you realize they're not for you and it's okay

706
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:16,234
Speaker 3: to let them go. Like these were high value pieces

707
00:34:16,274 --> 00:34:18,473
Speaker 3: that I spend a lot of money on, but they

708
00:34:18,594 --> 00:34:20,913
Speaker 3: just weren't serving me anymore. So let that go and

709
00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:22,794
Speaker 3: figure out what you're trying to get at with what

710
00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:25,034
Speaker 3: you're buying and what it is instead.

711
00:34:25,634 --> 00:34:26,314
Speaker 1: I don't know if that.

712
00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:28,794
Speaker 2: Makes any say. I completely agree with you. And that's

713
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:31,274
Speaker 2: almost one of a similar mistake I've had, where it's

714
00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:36,874
Speaker 2: defining your own style clarity, right, an appreciating style from Afar.

715
00:34:37,114 --> 00:34:39,114
Speaker 2: Sometimes if I'm scrolling, I go, oh my gosh, she

716
00:34:39,154 --> 00:34:43,033
Speaker 2: looks amazing, but it's a florally like Rixo dress, which

717
00:34:43,034 --> 00:34:46,194
Speaker 2: is a London based sort of Paisley style dresses I love,

718
00:34:46,234 --> 00:34:49,513
Speaker 2: but it's not really my style sometimes and it goes

719
00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:53,274
Speaker 2: back to that whole lifestyle lad dressing, right, But yeah,

720
00:34:53,314 --> 00:34:56,593
Speaker 2: it's more This is probably more around a particular style though,

721
00:34:56,674 --> 00:34:59,594
Speaker 2: Like what's another one. I don't actually really like wearing

722
00:34:59,634 --> 00:35:01,953
Speaker 2: midi skirts, Like I don't like the style, but I'm

723
00:35:02,074 --> 00:35:04,274
Speaker 2: drawn to them on other people. Yeah, I think they

724
00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:06,834
Speaker 2: look fab. So it's just staying true to your own

725
00:35:06,874 --> 00:35:08,674
Speaker 2: style clarity. That's so true.

726
00:35:08,714 --> 00:35:12,594
Speaker 3: It's probably because I saw someone wearing an incredible Isamel

727
00:35:12,754 --> 00:35:16,634
Speaker 3: Moron utilitarian jumpsuit and was trying to emulate that, but actually,

728
00:35:16,674 --> 00:35:20,874
Speaker 3: like there's different ways of achieving that boho esthetic without

729
00:35:20,914 --> 00:35:23,234
Speaker 3: me actually buying a whole mass jumpsuit.

730
00:35:23,274 --> 00:35:26,794
Speaker 2: I'm so drawn to Isabel Moran on TikTok lately, and

731
00:35:27,114 --> 00:35:29,393
Speaker 2: I think we spoke about this that is so you

732
00:35:29,514 --> 00:35:32,354
Speaker 2: that style, but I'm seeing it on Instagram and TikTok

733
00:35:32,434 --> 00:35:34,594
Speaker 2: loving it, but it's not quite It's a bit too

734
00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:36,154
Speaker 2: boho for me, So I don't need to go and

735
00:35:36,274 --> 00:35:39,194
Speaker 2: purchase all this stuff on deepop like it's not me,

736
00:35:39,314 --> 00:35:40,074
Speaker 2: just appreciated.

737
00:35:40,274 --> 00:35:42,074
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I like think about a brand like

738
00:35:42,114 --> 00:35:44,034
Speaker 3: The Row, which we speak about a lot, and I'm like,

739
00:35:44,394 --> 00:35:47,314
Speaker 3: I can appreciate it, but it's just not me, Like

740
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:49,674
Speaker 3: I'll never be that minimal you know, I'll never be

741
00:35:49,754 --> 00:35:52,393
Speaker 3: that girl. And that's okay. I think it's learning that

742
00:35:52,474 --> 00:35:55,714
Speaker 3: you don't have to emulate it completely, Like you could

743
00:35:55,714 --> 00:35:58,954
Speaker 3: take pieces of that look and be minimal in just okay,

744
00:35:58,994 --> 00:36:01,554
Speaker 3: the simple T shirt or the great tailored black panther.

745
00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:03,674
Speaker 3: You don't have to be only a minimalist. You don't

746
00:36:03,714 --> 00:36:06,594
Speaker 3: have to only be bohemian, ye, you know, like you

747
00:36:06,634 --> 00:36:09,674
Speaker 3: could wear that Isabelle Moran style blouse back with like

748
00:36:09,714 --> 00:36:12,634
Speaker 3: a really streamline pant or something. You don't have to

749
00:36:12,634 --> 00:36:15,114
Speaker 3: be in a flair. It's just like, yeah, I think

750
00:36:15,154 --> 00:36:17,953
Speaker 3: I'm just maturing into playing with it a bit.

751
00:36:17,994 --> 00:36:21,794
Speaker 2: More take away for listeners listening at home from both

752
00:36:21,794 --> 00:36:25,274
Speaker 2: of those would be both of those mistakes, taking a beat,

753
00:36:25,394 --> 00:36:27,994
Speaker 2: taking a moment in terms of before you purchase something,

754
00:36:28,074 --> 00:36:28,714
Speaker 2: is it really me?

755
00:36:29,634 --> 00:36:29,873
Speaker 1: Yeah?

756
00:36:30,154 --> 00:36:32,714
Speaker 2: Being okay? Trial and error as well, Like you said

757
00:36:32,794 --> 00:36:35,754
Speaker 2: with the jumpsuits, like you tried, it wasn't quite right,

758
00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:38,073
Speaker 2: That's okay, you know, moving on and trying to find

759
00:36:38,114 --> 00:36:38,794
Speaker 2: what is you.

760
00:36:38,794 --> 00:36:41,034
Speaker 3: So one big mistake that I'm guilty of making, and

761
00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:44,074
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of our listeners are too. It's

762
00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:49,274
Speaker 3: what I call buying the consolation price? So what I

763
00:36:49,434 --> 00:36:51,954
Speaker 3: mean by that, and I swear this is like the

764
00:36:52,074 --> 00:36:54,354
Speaker 3: hill I will die on when it comes to shopping,

765
00:36:54,394 --> 00:36:56,913
Speaker 3: because I just I do this all the time, and

766
00:36:56,954 --> 00:37:00,354
Speaker 3: I catch myself out. You're fixating on an item, right,

767
00:37:00,394 --> 00:37:03,034
Speaker 3: and maybe it's like a little bit exy, it's a

768
00:37:03,034 --> 00:37:04,834
Speaker 3: bit out of your price range, or you know that

769
00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:07,354
Speaker 3: you'd really have to save up to get it. So

770
00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:11,754
Speaker 3: say it's a pair of really nice boots. Yeah, so

771
00:37:11,834 --> 00:37:14,114
Speaker 3: you think about those boots and you really want the boots,

772
00:37:14,114 --> 00:37:16,714
Speaker 3: and you're saving pictures of the boots and you're researching

773
00:37:16,754 --> 00:37:20,474
Speaker 3: the boots. And then, because you can't access the boots

774
00:37:20,554 --> 00:37:24,874
Speaker 3: right now, you might go to an affordable department store

775
00:37:25,194 --> 00:37:29,274
Speaker 3: or find like a cheap TMO version online and buy

776
00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:32,634
Speaker 3: those boots instead. And they look similar, but they're not

777
00:37:32,674 --> 00:37:34,354
Speaker 3: the same. They're not the ones you really want. It.

778
00:37:34,474 --> 00:37:36,234
Speaker 1: They're a consolation.

779
00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:37,114
Speaker 2: Prize, right, guilty.

780
00:37:37,394 --> 00:37:40,634
Speaker 3: So you've had that little dopamine hit and you think

781
00:37:40,674 --> 00:37:43,674
Speaker 3: you've kind of scratched the itch of the thing, but

782
00:37:43,714 --> 00:37:46,714
Speaker 3: then you haven't really scratched the itch. You're still thinking

783
00:37:46,714 --> 00:37:49,474
Speaker 3: about the other items. So maybe you go and you

784
00:37:49,594 --> 00:37:53,474
Speaker 3: buy like a two hundred dollars pair of the expensive

785
00:37:53,514 --> 00:37:57,034
Speaker 3: boots instead, and they're still not the ones that you wanted.

786
00:37:57,194 --> 00:38:00,314
Speaker 3: So now you've got like two subpar versions of the

787
00:38:00,354 --> 00:38:03,674
Speaker 3: boots and you're still thinking about the original item, and

788
00:38:03,674 --> 00:38:06,594
Speaker 3: by that point you almost like spend enough money to

789
00:38:06,754 --> 00:38:09,433
Speaker 3: justify buying them in the first place. That's why I

790
00:38:09,434 --> 00:38:12,274
Speaker 3: call it a consolation prize, because you should have just

791
00:38:12,794 --> 00:38:16,154
Speaker 3: you know, I guess my theory is, don't buy anything

792
00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:19,314
Speaker 3: at all, or save up, give yourself the grace and

793
00:38:19,354 --> 00:38:21,034
Speaker 3: go Okay, I'm going to save up and I'm going

794
00:38:21,074 --> 00:38:23,994
Speaker 3: to buy the original thing. You know that I really

795
00:38:23,994 --> 00:38:26,314
Speaker 3: have my heart set on to get that, you know,

796
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,553
Speaker 3: to get the satisfaction of buying it. And when I've

797
00:38:28,594 --> 00:38:31,874
Speaker 3: done this, when I've actually bought the thing I really wanted,

798
00:38:32,234 --> 00:38:35,074
Speaker 3: I felt so much pride in wearing it, and I

799
00:38:35,234 --> 00:38:37,994
Speaker 3: felt for that reason that I've ended up wearing it

800
00:38:38,074 --> 00:38:40,994
Speaker 3: more and enjoying wearing it more and got years of

801
00:38:40,994 --> 00:38:43,994
Speaker 3: where But on the other side of it, the cheaper

802
00:38:44,034 --> 00:38:44,953
Speaker 3: things that I bought, I.

803
00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:47,754
Speaker 1: Don't end up wearing them much because they little secret.

804
00:38:47,994 --> 00:38:50,714
Speaker 2: There's anger in it. You've wasted money on it. I

805
00:38:50,754 --> 00:38:53,114
Speaker 2: love that you've coined it the consolation price. It's not

806
00:38:53,234 --> 00:38:55,114
Speaker 2: just me like I feel like I do that. I

807
00:38:55,114 --> 00:38:57,194
Speaker 2: get angry at myself for doing it. And it's those

808
00:38:57,274 --> 00:38:59,874
Speaker 2: late night fixes as well. Right, Oh, I can't afford

809
00:38:59,914 --> 00:39:01,874
Speaker 2: it now, so I'll just get this one.

810
00:39:02,194 --> 00:39:05,594
Speaker 3: You just get that one. And it's like it's an approximation, right,

811
00:39:05,674 --> 00:39:07,834
Speaker 3: and it's ever the same. And it's to say, Okay,

812
00:39:07,834 --> 00:39:09,714
Speaker 3: go and buy all these expensive things. But if there's

813
00:39:09,714 --> 00:39:12,794
Speaker 3: something you really have your heart set on, don't buy

814
00:39:12,914 --> 00:39:15,513
Speaker 3: the dupe unless you find like a really kick ass

815
00:39:15,594 --> 00:39:17,034
Speaker 3: dupe that's like, oh my god, that's the same, and

816
00:39:17,074 --> 00:39:20,234
Speaker 3: it gives me the same sense of you know, validation

817
00:39:20,354 --> 00:39:22,754
Speaker 3: when I wear it, like, you know, consider whether you

818
00:39:22,834 --> 00:39:24,754
Speaker 3: really need the jupe or if you should just maybe

819
00:39:24,754 --> 00:39:27,274
Speaker 3: spring for the original. After the break, we're getting into

820
00:39:27,274 --> 00:39:29,994
Speaker 3: Boogie to Budget and this week I've brought an accessory

821
00:39:30,114 --> 00:39:33,954
Speaker 3: that is my shortcut to looking chic this winter, So

822
00:39:34,194 --> 00:39:34,754
Speaker 3: stay tuned.

823
00:39:53,314 --> 00:39:56,314
Speaker 1: It's very expensive. How wondre these?

824
00:39:58,714 --> 00:40:01,074
Speaker 2: Okay town? So now it's our favorite segment of the

825
00:40:01,114 --> 00:40:03,314
Speaker 2: show where we do boogie to budget. We bring an

826
00:40:03,354 --> 00:40:07,074
Speaker 2: item with three price ranges boogie right through the budget.

827
00:40:07,994 --> 00:40:11,314
Speaker 3: So I've got big round sonnies this week, inspired by

828
00:40:11,434 --> 00:40:14,754
Speaker 3: a pair I'm seeing all over social media. It's definitely viral.

829
00:40:14,834 --> 00:40:18,754
Speaker 3: It's the Selene disc Sonnies. They are like big round

830
00:40:18,794 --> 00:40:21,554
Speaker 3: bug sunglasses. And I think these are like the new

831
00:40:21,754 --> 00:40:24,873
Speaker 3: you know how those Phoebe Filo shield shades.

832
00:40:24,554 --> 00:40:25,274
Speaker 2: Have been everywhere.

833
00:40:25,314 --> 00:40:29,114
Speaker 3: I think these are the new those all the fashion girls. Okay,

834
00:40:29,194 --> 00:40:33,514
Speaker 3: so my budget is from cotton On. They're the Serena

835
00:40:33,634 --> 00:40:37,594
Speaker 3: oversized curved square sunglasses. They say curve square, but they're

836
00:40:37,594 --> 00:40:41,474
Speaker 3: really quite round. They're big and they are twenty dollars.

837
00:40:41,514 --> 00:40:44,154
Speaker 3: They're a black pair of round sunglasses that just have

838
00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:47,314
Speaker 3: that like, don't look at me, I'm fabulous quite thing

839
00:40:47,394 --> 00:40:50,714
Speaker 3: going on for twenty bucks. My mid range is from

840
00:40:50,874 --> 00:40:54,634
Speaker 3: Reality ee Wear. It's the lux second to Midnight in

841
00:40:54,674 --> 00:40:57,274
Speaker 3: the color Onyx, which is a fancy name for black.

842
00:40:57,554 --> 00:41:00,154
Speaker 3: They're ninety five dollars and they're just that little bit

843
00:41:00,194 --> 00:41:04,554
Speaker 3: more upmarket. They're just a really chic, big black round

844
00:41:04,554 --> 00:41:08,954
Speaker 3: sunglasses style that I really love. Yeah, for ninety five nice.

845
00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:12,354
Speaker 3: Moving to my bougie I could not track down the

846
00:41:12,394 --> 00:41:16,154
Speaker 3: Saline sunglasses. They are sold out everywhere really for eight

847
00:41:16,234 --> 00:41:19,394
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty dollars, so people really want these sonnies.

848
00:41:19,714 --> 00:41:24,114
Speaker 3: But I did find a nice designer alternative from Prata.

849
00:41:24,234 --> 00:41:28,114
Speaker 3: They're the round Junipar Tortoise. They are six hundred and

850
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:30,794
Speaker 3: ninety three dollars, so they are definitely on the bougie

851
00:41:30,874 --> 00:41:33,114
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum. But if you're buying Kraidas sunnies,

852
00:41:33,354 --> 00:41:36,434
Speaker 3: you're spending a little bit of coin. These are, yeah,

853
00:41:36,594 --> 00:41:39,834
Speaker 3: another big round pair of sunglasses, but they really have

854
00:41:39,914 --> 00:41:43,594
Speaker 3: that nice kind of sixties retro sort of feel to

855
00:41:43,634 --> 00:41:47,034
Speaker 3: them in this really lovely tortoise shell with a brown lens.

856
00:41:47,314 --> 00:41:48,274
Speaker 1: These are gorgeous.

857
00:41:48,514 --> 00:41:49,074
Speaker 2: My favorite.

858
00:41:49,074 --> 00:41:51,714
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice. So that's what I'm looking for

859
00:41:51,754 --> 00:41:54,194
Speaker 1: this week. I love those tops on your shopping list.

860
00:41:54,314 --> 00:41:59,074
Speaker 2: I've been looking at a collarless tailored jacket. Something I'm

861
00:41:59,114 --> 00:42:01,874
Speaker 2: looking at. I love a blazer, but just a different variation,

862
00:42:01,994 --> 00:42:05,074
Speaker 2: different style being the collarless exactly like it sounds. It

863
00:42:05,114 --> 00:42:07,074
Speaker 2: doesn't have the lapel, it doesn't have any sort of color.

864
00:42:07,434 --> 00:42:11,074
Speaker 2: I'm specifically looking at like a beige neutral one. Okay,

865
00:42:11,234 --> 00:42:14,234
Speaker 2: so I found three. So my first budget is from

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Speaker 2: Pretty Little Thing. It's in sort of a beige I

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Speaker 2: suppose vanilla color. It's got the colorless front, but it's

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Speaker 2: got these cocoon arms, so giving a bit of a

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Speaker 2: different silhouette coming down. It comes in a really nice

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Speaker 2: brown as well. This one's seventy nine dollars and it's cheap, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: super cheap, seventy five dollars down from one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: Love.

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Speaker 2: My mid range is from Zara. This is actually my favorite.

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Speaker 2: It's a long blazer, so it actually goes to around

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Speaker 2: the knee, and it's in a crue color colorless, really simple,

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Speaker 2: sort of gives me wardrobe NYC vibes. Okay, this one

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Speaker 2: is one hundred and nineteen, down from three hundred, so

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Speaker 2: again on sal This is sitting in my ad decatte

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Speaker 2: basket at the moment, so I need to get on

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Speaker 2: this lane. Yeah, this is my favorite one. So that's

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Speaker 2: from Zara and my bougie is from Totem on the

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Speaker 2: Netaforte Oney seven hundred and fifty, very similar style to

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Speaker 2: the Zara one. This one has more of a wool blend,

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Speaker 2: so it's a fabrics making it a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a higher price for and being Totem, you're buying the brand.

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Speaker 3: It is expensive, isn't it Totam, But it's beautiful quality.

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Speaker 2: And this one's more ivory, I should say, it's so

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Speaker 2: cooler tones, but yeah, a beautiful jacket colorless is really

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Speaker 2: chic and elegant and something different. Right.

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Speaker 1: I can see all of these on you.

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Speaker 2: So they're my free Thank you so much for listening today. Guys,

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