Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seize the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy
Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what
Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but
Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than
Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and
Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,
Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day
Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of Seizing your Yea. I'm
Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned funentrepreneur
Speaker 1: who swapped the suits and heels to co found Matcha
Speaker 1: Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Ces Ya is a series
Speaker 1: of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring
Speaker 1: the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way.
Speaker 2: Hello, Lovely yighborhood.
Speaker 1: As promised, we are back with the fresher Years of
Speaker 1: our Lives chat after a million years pretty much. I
Speaker 1: cannot believe we actually managed a guest interview, and this
Speaker 1: in one week after such a long drought. Having said that,
Speaker 1: though I am needing to listen to my own advice
Speaker 1: more than ever lately, that done is better than perfect
Speaker 1: because there are so many things we didn't get to.
Speaker 1: There are so many things I wanted to say but didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't express myself as eloquently as I meant to
Speaker 1: insert other self criticism here. Lots to adjust to over
Speaker 1: the last few months, but very glad we are at
Speaker 1: least back and getting into things again. And to be fair,
Speaker 1: we were pretty chaotic before anyway, So I guess you're
Speaker 1: all conditioned, and I'm so grateful that you are all
Speaker 1: still here, regardless. I can't say how many times we've
Speaker 1: postponed this one. Then we actually lost the first recording
Speaker 1: because of a corrupted memory card, and we didn't even
Speaker 1: finish that one anyway, And then this one got interrupted
Speaker 1: towards the end by the little Teddy having a teething moment
Speaker 1: and ended up being recorded in two parts. But I realized,
Speaker 1: if I wait for the perfect conditions, he'll pretty much
Speaker 1: be a teenager before we resume the show again. So
Speaker 1: hopefully pushing Through is a reminder to you guys of
Speaker 1: a theme we've always loved, of letting go of perfection
Speaker 1: and finding some yay in the mess. We had a
Speaker 1: good old time and covered some things that we actually
Speaker 1: hadn't asked each other before over the past couple of months,
Speaker 1: and has always recorded our cat chaps in real time.
Speaker 1: We didn't do any of these chats beforehand. I love
Speaker 1: giving you guys a little snippet. It's always so nice
Speaker 1: when friends ask you questions that you wouldn't otherwise reflect on,
Speaker 1: and sitting down for these chats really gives us the
Speaker 1: chance to stop and take a moment and yeah, like
Speaker 1: you'll hear. We actually hadn't had this chat about whether
Speaker 1: or not our friendship had changed since Little Teddy arrived,
Speaker 1: so I found it really interesting.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys do too.
Speaker 1: I hope it brings you a smile and maybe even
Speaker 1: a laugh, and we will be back.
Speaker 2: With more soon. Hi viim, hi bim.
Speaker 3: Ready okay, okay, okay for full transparency everyone. We actually
Speaker 3: recorded this three weeks ago, and we had the funniest
Speaker 3: conversation because we were both so like it was a drought.
Speaker 3: We both just missed speaking. I can't speaking speaking, And
Speaker 3: then we spoke for like an hour and ten minutes
Speaker 3: and we were laughing at the most stupid things, as
Speaker 3: we do. And then the week after Sarah's like.
Speaker 1: We lost the file file. I'm not actually sure whether
Speaker 1: it's a good thing that we lost the file or
Speaker 1: a bad thing that we lost it. Like I kind
Speaker 1: of am devastated that we can't share the joy, the
Speaker 1: pure joy of our effee catch up.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: It was all about the in like the weirdest way possible,
Speaker 1: because we obviously don't celebrate the end of financial year,
Speaker 1: but we just made a whole thing of it, and
Speaker 1: it just kept coming back.
Speaker 3: In hindsight now that you said, I'm like, yeah, that
Speaker 3: sounds really lame, like the fact.
Speaker 2: That we were laughing about the effee no believe the word.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that people listening along understand our
Speaker 1: sense of humor because otherwise, like, none of these episodes
Speaker 1: make any sense or would be enjoyable to anybody else.
Speaker 1: So at least we're having fun.
Speaker 3: I think it came up because we were like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, it's been so long since the last one,
Speaker 3: what truly is the milestone now? And then one of
Speaker 3: us was like, ef ef Teddy's first.
Speaker 1: You know how people take those photos with their babies
Speaker 1: and it says like one month, two month, three months
Speaker 1: might not be like, so, guys, you're getting a sample
Speaker 1: of what the episode was how did we.
Speaker 3: Get back to Efie. The joke went for like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's still going like three weeks later,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's kind of symptomatic of why
Speaker 1: it's taken so long to get back to the show.
Speaker 1: And I've missed you guys so much. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: that we've managed to get a new guest episode out
Speaker 1: somehow after literally like ten weeks or maybe more. I
Speaker 1: think it's been maybe more than ten weeks. But the
Speaker 1: reason is it's obviously taken us three weeks to re
Speaker 1: record the same episode because mum life was chaos.
Speaker 2: Chaos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we truly haven't done a catch up since you've
Speaker 3: become mom other than the birth story. But then again,
Speaker 3: I feel like that was like so day zero of
Speaker 3: this journey, that you haven't actually really spoken about mum
Speaker 3: life since then, and it's been three four months. So
Speaker 3: I had to count on my fingers and I was like,
Speaker 3: what four months.
Speaker 1: That's like it's like me going element op every time
Speaker 1: I have to like say the alphabet, I'm like element.
Speaker 3: Four months been of you being a mum.
Speaker 1: Oh my god blows my mind. Still, I still can't
Speaker 1: believe it.
Speaker 3: How has it been?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's been the most incredible, like definitely
Speaker 1: my favorite chapter of my life so far.
Speaker 2: By Miles.
Speaker 1: I look back at even like looking back at the episode,
Speaker 1: so I think just before I had Teddy or before
Speaker 1: before he came by surprise, we did a final episode
Speaker 1: pre mallehood, and that was like two or three episodes ago.
Speaker 1: I can't actually identify anymore with who that person is,
Speaker 1: because now that he's in my world, the whole world
Speaker 1: that he wasn't in doesn't really make sense anymore. Like
Speaker 1: I can't actually remember the person I was before I
Speaker 1: was his mum. It's just so weird that you spend
Speaker 1: your entire life in one identity and just four months
Speaker 1: later I reckon even like within a couple of days,
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine me without him.
Speaker 2: It's just so weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but weirdly at the same time, actually, maybe not weirdly.
Speaker 3: I think it's testimate to you is that you're still
Speaker 3: actually the same person as in from an outside of
Speaker 3: looking in as a friend, you are the same like
Speaker 3: airy fairy but also not loser, funny like a person
Speaker 3: as you Elie, Like, well, we still love at the
Speaker 3: same stupid things. Yeah, I thought that maybe, you know,
Speaker 3: like would change in a way, not not in a
Speaker 3: bad way or anything, but I imagine, like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: you don't have the same energy that you might have before.
Speaker 3: But truthfully, every time that I've seen you, you actually have
Speaker 3: the same energy, even if it's like less. So it's
Speaker 3: not like dull. It's still like, oh my god, hype him.
Speaker 3: Let's lie on the couch. Like it's that kind of
Speaker 3: change of energy. But it's not. It's not different in
Speaker 3: terms of life. Lie down. It's not different. Like it's
Speaker 3: not like, yeah, like we hang out horizontal now, but
Speaker 3: that's fine.
Speaker 1: As if we didn't already catch up to just rest
Speaker 1: together anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. It's true. And every time I come over,
Speaker 3: I'm like, just like, you know, it's like real chial vibes, right,
Speaker 3: And so I was like, yeah, I know, I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: no to the pot.
Speaker 2: We're gonna lie down together.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like the other day I came and Nick's like,
Speaker 3: Sarah's a sleep and I was like, and so I
Speaker 3: just went and watched the footy while you're sleeping, Like
Speaker 3: I didn't. I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Boring guys interrupting for like a random tangent because tangents
Speaker 1: are our favorite thing on the show, and came over
Speaker 1: the other day ate an entire wheel of brea. I
Speaker 1: had like some random barbecue shapes, and then like an
Speaker 1: apple and just left, like and Nick came downstairs like
Speaker 1: three days later. I was like, did ang eat the
Speaker 1: entire wheel of bree and then just go home? I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I think she did.
Speaker 3: I actually did. I think I was there for about
Speaker 3: twenty four minutes and it takes me like an hour
Speaker 3: to ride there, and I stayed for like twenty four minutes.
Speaker 3: I ate a whole sour dough bread for some reason,
Speaker 3: put bree on it, and then ate some mission chips
Speaker 3: and then left. And then I didn't really think anything
Speaker 3: of it. And then Nick, obviously I had been thinking
Speaker 3: about it for days, and he messaged me and he went, days,
Speaker 3: did you seriously come to my house eat all of
Speaker 3: my food then leave?
Speaker 1: No, it was the fact that it was a whole
Speaker 1: wheel of breath.
Speaker 3: And then it goes no, he goes, did you come
Speaker 3: to my house, make my baby cry, eat all of
Speaker 3: my food and leave? I said yes, And.
Speaker 2: He's like, what the f yes, correct.
Speaker 3: It's like, yes, your memory serves you right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so lovely. Like you just said before that
Speaker 1: I haven't changed. We actually haven't discussed. And this is
Speaker 1: why I love the neighborhood because they often hear things
Speaker 1: the first time that we've actually ever chatted about them.
Speaker 1: Like we save our catch ups for you guys. We
Speaker 1: don't have them first and then reh them recording. Often
Speaker 1: it's like the very first time we've had this conversation.
Speaker 1: So we have caught up AND's had some beautiful times
Speaker 1: with Teddy. Obviously she was like the first person who
Speaker 1: came over and the main person who because your family,
Speaker 1: like you've been over since day one and seen all
Speaker 1: the mess and like all the highs and all the
Speaker 1: lows and everything, but we've not had time outside of
Speaker 1: that to actually chat about what you expected, how it's
Speaker 1: felt like as a friend from the outside. So that's
Speaker 1: the first time that I've heard your reaction actually true.
Speaker 3: Like we I guess our chat's always around Teddy and
Speaker 3: how Bee is getting and how cute he is, like
Speaker 3: all day long to Bobo, they're not even sentences. It's
Speaker 3: like on to buy as a coach, I'll look at him.
Speaker 3: So it's oh, and this goes for about two hours
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, okay, bye, good to see you.
Speaker 3: Like it's so stupid, but as well, it's true. I
Speaker 3: do feel like you truly haven't changed as a person,
Speaker 3: as a personality, as an energy sauce weirdly even though.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because the other day, remember you were like, Bim,
Speaker 3: I am normally really bad when I'm sleep deprived, but
Speaker 3: I have been sleep deprived for four months and I'm
Speaker 3: the same. I was like, you know what, that's actually
Speaker 3: pretty true.
Speaker 2: Tickets. Yeah, so used to get like.
Speaker 3: Maybe seven hours instead of eight and be like, pretty,
Speaker 3: you're like nas hitting me and then you need to
Speaker 3: have like a really a big sloth day or something,
Speaker 3: but you just haven't. You just can't. Now really, you've
Speaker 3: been doing really well, I.
Speaker 2: Think, oh, thanks, Bim.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because just before we started recording, I
Speaker 1: already had like one of the things that I've had
Speaker 1: to navigate that's been like all of it has just
Speaker 1: been absolutely magical, and all the compromises and challenges are
Speaker 1: absolutely worth it. But there have been a lot of adjustments,
Speaker 1: and one of them has been the inability to plan
Speaker 1: things like to plan guest episodes or any kind of
Speaker 1: recording or meeting that isn't flexible. And so today I
Speaker 1: literally said, don't come over to record in person because
Speaker 1: I just don't know, especially in the afternoons, if he'll
Speaker 1: be amenable to it or not. And we've canceled like
Speaker 1: five days in a row. Actually it's been three weeks,
Speaker 1: but even just this week, we've canceled five days in
Speaker 1: a row.
Speaker 2: Because you're not.
Speaker 1: Really sure, particularly for an audio recording versus say snippets
Speaker 1: of you know, a video on Instagram is a bit
Speaker 1: different because it doesn't require like a live conversation, but
Speaker 1: an hour recording, I don't always know that I can
Speaker 1: commit to that, and that kind of really worries me
Speaker 1: because I was feeling really bad. It was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the times you've come over and have canceled, I feel
Speaker 1: like I've wasted your time. And it's been hard for
Speaker 1: me to not be able to be the same a
Speaker 1: friend to a lot of my friends because your capacity
Speaker 1: and reliability, it actually doesn't depend on you anymore. So
Speaker 1: it's like I still have those values that I want
Speaker 1: to be on time and I want to be reliable,
Speaker 1: but out of my control, I actually can't be, which
Speaker 1: is like a weird adjustment because you don't want to
Speaker 1: have to apologize all the time because you know it's
Speaker 1: they should understand that it's part of being a mum.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you're like, but I wish
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing that to you because I know your
Speaker 1: time is you know, precious as well. If that's been
Speaker 1: one of the interesting parts, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's a good saguity. On to the topic of
Speaker 3: what have your main challenges? Well, we don't really have
Speaker 3: time today to go through all the questions, which we
Speaker 3: will in the next episode. It was more so touching
Speaker 3: base or asking you what your challenges have been since
Speaker 3: having Teddy. And obviously there's I think there's every day
Speaker 3: is a challenge in itself because you've never had this
Speaker 3: day before. Every day is like a completely new experience,
Speaker 3: particularly with Teddy. But that was actually one you've never
Speaker 3: spoken about for like, if you had to maybe list
Speaker 3: three biggest or most obvious challenges that you've had to
Speaker 3: kind of experience, what would they be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question, and I think I've been
Speaker 1: really conscious of I was a little bit harder at
Speaker 1: the start, but I've really been conscious of when sharing
Speaker 1: along the way. I've tried to really keep up or
Speaker 1: not tried it. I mean, it's so easy to share
Speaker 1: your baby when you're just obsessed with him, because it's
Speaker 1: obviously perfect and I love him so much. But sharing
Speaker 1: on socials, like sharing every milestone and every magical new
Speaker 1: moment and how much motherhood has just been transformative and
Speaker 1: special and amazing. I've tried to share that, but then
Speaker 1: also not forget even though it is really hard to
Speaker 1: capture content because you know you're raising a human, to
Speaker 1: also try and share the really hard bits as well,
Speaker 1: so that no other parent watching gets a skewed view,
Speaker 1: Just like I have always with bloops, I've tried to
Speaker 1: kind of not just show the really beautiful bits because
Speaker 1: it is extraordinarily difficult. It's a huge lifestyle change. It
Speaker 1: is sleep deprivation, it's new responsibility that's relentless, that starts
Speaker 1: now and goes until they're independent, like at eighteen or older.
Speaker 1: You know, it's such a dramatic change. I don't think
Speaker 1: you ever really go through anything quite as transformative that
Speaker 1: happens overnight. Like maybe you go through changes that are
Speaker 1: gradual or that kind of you know, you have a
Speaker 1: bit of you can ease in, but you kind of
Speaker 1: can't with parenthood, like you're either not a parent or
Speaker 1: then the next morning you wake up and.
Speaker 2: You're a parent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like this tiny human. So I've
Speaker 1: tried to show the days that are harder as well
Speaker 1: as all the beautiful moments. And I think if I
Speaker 1: had to pick the three biggest ones, it's getting a
Speaker 1: lot better now. But honestly, the first bit was just
Speaker 1: the physiological challenges. So sleep deprivation is something else, Like
Speaker 1: you thought that you'd been tired beforehand, but it is.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that they say it's like being alcohol impair.
Speaker 1: Your mood is different, your ability to be rational is different,
Speaker 1: especially when you've got hormones on top of it, you know,
Speaker 1: getting perspective on things like I would you know, get
Speaker 1: a paper cut or something and then like just cry
Speaker 1: for like four hours about my paper cut because like
Speaker 1: you're tired.
Speaker 2: It's not because you care about it, You're just exhausted.
Speaker 1: So I think learning a whole new person in terms
Speaker 1: of both the baby and yourself and your partner, you're
Speaker 1: all becoming new people. And try to have grace and
Speaker 1: patients through that while you're also tired and at your worst.
Speaker 1: That's really really hard, So that's been one of the
Speaker 1: biggest challenges.
Speaker 3: That's actually the thing I'm like the most scared of
Speaker 3: when I ever have kids is like the person that
Speaker 3: I am when I'm sleep deprived, and also the patience
Speaker 3: your partner needs to be able to understand that it's
Speaker 3: sleeped reprivation and that it might be there for a
Speaker 3: while and you kind of have to get through that together.
Speaker 3: That's like my greatest fear. I'm like, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know what kind of person I am when I'm like
Speaker 3: that exhausted, and I don't know how long my partner
Speaker 3: has to be patient with it, and what if they
Speaker 3: can't do it for long time and then it's like
Speaker 3: they hate me. But these just because I've slept for
Speaker 3: one hour or not.
Speaker 1: That's such an interesting fear for you to have. That
Speaker 1: is really fascinating. I wouldn't have picked you to even think, like,
Speaker 1: because you don't worry about sort of stuff that isn't
Speaker 1: immediately in your right now, Like you don't get hung
Speaker 1: up on stuff that's really theoretical. But that's so interesting
Speaker 1: and I definitely had that, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you're so caught up in having your own patients as well.
Speaker 1: For this tiny human that is the one that's causing
Speaker 1: all of the challenge, and that they're crying and you're
Speaker 1: sort of thinking, well, you don't want to be crying either,
Speaker 1: So you're already kind of drawing from the depths of
Speaker 1: the most patients. You need to sort of understand that
Speaker 1: they're not doing it on purpose, and the hormones as well.
Speaker 1: That just kind of help you through it, and the
Speaker 1: love and magic that comes with it when they do
Speaker 1: give you a smile or when you do watch them
Speaker 1: learn a new skill. Yeah, it's funny. It's in isolation.
Speaker 1: If you just right now, if I tried to simulate
Speaker 1: the sleep deprivation on you, you would turn into like,
Speaker 1: probably not the best version of you. But if you
Speaker 1: had all of the other things around you in context,
Speaker 1: it's different. I don't know why. It's also because you
Speaker 1: have no choice, but there's enough. Yeah, you're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of oxytocin and dopamine from other things as well,
Speaker 1: Like I'm lucky enough to be breastfeeding, and that gives
Speaker 1: you a huge amount of happy hormones. His smile lights
Speaker 1: up the entire world. One of those can get you
Speaker 1: through like an entire day, you know. It's just there's
Speaker 1: enough ups further downs. So yeah, physiological was one, and
Speaker 1: definitely I think I've spoken about a few times. The
Speaker 1: nipple pain from breastfeeding was the other physiological one at
Speaker 1: the start, which is totally calm down now, But I
Speaker 1: was not prepared for that, and I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: speaks about it enough.
Speaker 3: No one speaks bad enough.
Speaker 2: It's wild, Like I didn't.
Speaker 3: Know about it until you said, and I was like, who.
Speaker 2: Like bawling my eyes out.
Speaker 1: And I have a really high pain threshold, to the
Speaker 1: point where I actually thought this level of pain is unnatural.
Speaker 2: I should stop.
Speaker 1: Whereas now because I've pushed through in your skin, I
Speaker 1: was actually have to toughen up. I can't even feel it.
Speaker 1: So it's just there's so much that has surprised me
Speaker 1: about the human body. So the second one would be, yeah,
Speaker 1: the time. So as someone who has traditionally been a
Speaker 1: obviously part of seizing the a for me, manifests make
Speaker 1: the most of every single second of the day and
Speaker 1: like squeeze in everything you can and obviously burn out
Speaker 1: a little bit, but generally just to make the most
Speaker 1: of the time that I have. And it's been a
Speaker 1: huge adjustment to I want to spend all my time
Speaker 1: just on Teddy. If I could just spend all day,
Speaker 1: every day for the rest of ever, only focusing on
Speaker 1: him and his growth and development and well being and
Speaker 1: just chatting with each.
Speaker 2: Other, it would be the happiest life ever.
Speaker 1: But obviously there's work, and there's like your own personal
Speaker 1: hygiene and like life admin and your partner and your
Speaker 1: friendships and your family. You really go from having twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day to choose what you do and
Speaker 1: divide it between the pie chart of your life to
Speaker 1: like seven minutes is yours. Like the whole rest of
Speaker 1: the day is consumed by feeding them, burping them, getting
Speaker 1: them to sleep, changing them, shopping for them, appointments like
Speaker 1: in the first little while, there's like an appointment every day,
Speaker 1: doing the admin of like putting them down for birth
Speaker 1: certificate schools. Like it is so much that at the
Speaker 1: end of every day you literally maybe have like twenty
Speaker 1: minutes to fit in all your phone calls to your friends,
Speaker 1: let alone visits, let alone you know, showering, feeding yourself,
Speaker 1: doing your own life, admin work, Like you just have
Speaker 1: so little to work with suddenly, and yet you still
Speaker 1: want to be the same good friend, the same good partner,
Speaker 1: the same good daughter, the same but you just got
Speaker 1: to fit it into nothing. And that's really hard because
Speaker 1: some days I'm just like, how did I get a
Speaker 1: really important message from a really good friend and fourteen
Speaker 1: hours later I haven't replied to them yet, Like how?
Speaker 1: But the day just gets away from you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you were saying last time, also is
Speaker 3: that this is a kind of miss sinceptions from people
Speaker 3: that have maybe don't have kids, or maybe the working
Speaker 3: partner that the baby sleeps all day and then so
Speaker 3: therefore you must have so much time. But we were
Speaker 3: talking about the fact that yes they might sleep a lot,
Speaker 3: but in that time, the certainty of the length of
Speaker 3: they're sleeping is like there's no certainty. So they could
Speaker 3: wake up in ten minutes, they could wake up in fifteen,
Speaker 3: or they could wake up in two hours. And it's
Speaker 3: that needing to be on like on call at all
Speaker 3: times that's difficult. It's like being a doctor overnight. You know,
Speaker 3: some nights, yes you might not get but you have
Speaker 3: to be on call, so you kind of have to
Speaker 3: be on So therefore you don't really get a break,
Speaker 3: Like you can't schedule a shower because in that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something might happen.
Speaker 3: What if he wakes up, or you can't like start
Speaker 3: cooking some great meal because then he might start crying
Speaker 3: or needing a feed or whatever. You have time. You
Speaker 3: don't have time. Really, you don't have control of your time,
Speaker 3: unless what you were saying to the other day is like, yeah, totally,
Speaker 3: there's so much sleep time, but somehow I don't have time.
Speaker 1: It's just that you don't know when it is. Whereas
Speaker 1: most things in life depend on you being able to
Speaker 1: like tell someone to meet you at a particular time,
Speaker 1: so you end up not scheduling the catch up at
Speaker 1: all because you're like, I've got two hours, but just
Speaker 1: when is that two hours? Unless they live around the
Speaker 1: corner from you and also work the same hours as you,
Speaker 1: it's like really really difficult.
Speaker 2: So logistically I feel like, is that's that's really hard.
Speaker 1: But I've honestly like such a dramatic change, and for
Speaker 1: someone who's like traditionally been quite a control freak and
Speaker 1: certainty loving person, it has just been such a natural, enjoyable,
Speaker 1: like I just live.
Speaker 2: To be his mum. It has been.
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it so much, even the really hard bits,
Speaker 1: I've just felt like it surprised me. I thought I
Speaker 1: would find it harder.
Speaker 3: You were so strong. No butter. Also, but you've been
Speaker 3: talking a lot about work, which I don't think that
Speaker 3: many mums are talking about work at this stage of
Speaker 3: you know, post partum life. But how has it been
Speaker 3: picking up a couple of jobs. Did you think you
Speaker 3: were going to pick up jobs this early and how
Speaker 3: has that been for you? Hm?
Speaker 1: Great question. I haven't covered that as much. I don't
Speaker 1: think great questions. Question, But you haven't asked me these
Speaker 1: questions like I didn't know you were going to ask
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: So true, it's a.
Speaker 1: Really interesting one I thought. I mean, you guys all
Speaker 1: know the story of leaving corporate. I haven't regretted it
Speaker 1: or missed the corporate structure at all since I left
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. I thought the first time I
Speaker 1: might is now when I don't get structure, maternity leave
Speaker 1: that's paid, that I have the certainty.
Speaker 2: Of going back to a job, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, I haven't experienced that, which I feel incredibly lucky
Speaker 1: for because at least for my personality, I mean, everyone's different.
Speaker 1: I would find taking twelve months off completely and having
Speaker 1: zero and then going back to one hundred percent overnight.
Speaker 1: I would find that really difficult. Whereas I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that now my work is so flexible that I took
Speaker 1: six weeks off of absolutely no work. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to check my email, I didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to look at my phone or know
Speaker 1: what day it was. But when I say I went
Speaker 1: back at six weeks, I mean I went back for
Speaker 1: an hour a week, Like I'm so fortunate that I
Speaker 1: could do an hour of radio, and then the next
Speaker 1: week I did one shoot for the TV show for
Speaker 1: two hours and one radio show for one hour, so
Speaker 1: it was like three.
Speaker 2: Hours a week.
Speaker 1: I didn't go back one hundred percent, and that allowed
Speaker 1: me to like dip my toe in the water and
Speaker 1: then ramp up when I felt like I was getting
Speaker 1: a bit more used to leaving him or taking him
Speaker 1: with me or whatever it was. And again so grateful
Speaker 1: that the people I work with were also really flexible
Speaker 1: to that, Like the TV show came to our house
Speaker 1: so we could film at home, and in that way,
Speaker 1: I never sort of have had that big guilt of
Speaker 1: going straight back to an office. You know, I work
Speaker 1: from home, so also wasn't like I had to leave
Speaker 1: him or miss any of his development or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I feel extremely lucky that. And my husband also
Speaker 1: works from home, and so there's always four hands. We're
Speaker 1: always a teen. There's two of us, so even if
Speaker 1: one of us is working or both of us are working,
Speaker 1: we're in the house together. So none of us had
Speaker 1: to leave Teddy really early, or it's just worked out
Speaker 1: really well that my work identity didn't really have to
Speaker 1: have this long hibernation and then there's really awkward awakening
Speaker 1: where I got really nervous or uncomfortable. That identity has
Speaker 1: just kind of coexisted and stayed there, which also means
Speaker 1: that I haven't experienced the loss of self that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of mums do because I haven't had
Speaker 1: to go all in or all out, which again, not
Speaker 1: everyone can. And I'm incredibly grateful that the people I
Speaker 1: work with have also allowed that to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly think it normalized mums wanting to go
Speaker 3: back to work. Because I think you and Chris did
Speaker 3: a very similar point. I think she he's got too
Speaker 3: under two, but I had Gracie only like four weeks
Speaker 3: after you. But even she, similar to you, has like
Speaker 3: it's itchy to work or do stuff again. But I
Speaker 3: think at the same time she feels slightly maybe guilty
Speaker 3: that she feels that way, like that she doesn't want
Speaker 3: to spend every second of her life with a baby.
Speaker 3: Or I'm like, you have every right to want to
Speaker 3: work and create and achieve things as well, Like it
Speaker 3: doesn't have to completely stop. So I think it's like
Speaker 3: cool to watch two different people navigate that and how
Speaker 3: they navigate that. I feel like we should normalize because
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of moms want to go back
Speaker 3: earlier than maybe the norm is or what the average is.
Speaker 3: But some might feel like, oh, you might get a
Speaker 3: bit of backlash, you know, to be like, oh, like
Speaker 3: they're gone too early, or or they should have spent
Speaker 3: longer with their child or whatever, which I don't think
Speaker 3: is ever necessarily fair because there's two, it's a partnership
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, Also, one of the things that has been really
Speaker 1: interesting is sometimes you think that really far along in
Speaker 1: terms of gender equality and traditional roles and women having
Speaker 1: careers and all that kind of thing. You think we
Speaker 1: have come a very very long way, but every now
Speaker 1: and then something happens and you're just.
Speaker 2: Like, are we still there? Like is that really what
Speaker 2: we're facing?
Speaker 1: So an amazing woman, Jesse Marshall, who is a founder
Speaker 1: and owner of high HQ, an amazing PR firm, who
Speaker 1: I work with often. She's in a little mother's group
Speaker 1: that I have on Instagram where we all had babies
Speaker 1: around similar time and are in a similar industry, which
Speaker 1: really helps. So we kind of all get that we
Speaker 1: have more flexible work arrangements, and a lot of us
Speaker 1: went back earlier than the average woman. Jesse didn't take
Speaker 1: any maternity leave because she owns her own business.
Speaker 2: Wow awesome, and.
Speaker 1: You know, in the area I would love to be like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, babe, Like you're not going to get any
Speaker 1: backlash the modern woman whatever. It literally went all over
Speaker 1: the news how much backlash she got for it because
Speaker 1: people were just like, don't you love your baby? You
Speaker 1: love your child, Like, what what do you mean? And
Speaker 1: also the fact that her husband would never ever, like
Speaker 1: ever get that kind of questioning if he went back
Speaker 1: to work straight away, but separate to that, even without
Speaker 1: the gender roles, even like taking all of that out
Speaker 1: of kind of the equation. The biggest thing I've learned
Speaker 1: is like, just shut up, because no parent is the
Speaker 1: same as anyone else, Like everyone's balance. There are some
Speaker 1: people who never want to go back to work or
Speaker 1: weren't working beforehand, and they love that balance. And it's
Speaker 1: just interesting. I've said it before, but the area that
Speaker 1: people feel the most entitled to tell you their advice
Speaker 1: or opinion on your life is parenting. And it's also
Speaker 1: the area where you're probably the most sensitive and the
Speaker 1: most heated. But it's also the area where it really
Speaker 1: is like we always say this in terms of your
Speaker 1: career and your path yay, but in terms of parenting
Speaker 1: even more so, it's like you have to do what
Speaker 1: suits you and your family and your child, and it's
Speaker 1: never going to be the same as anyone else. It's
Speaker 1: so weird how freely people feel like they can comment
Speaker 1: on what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like also this stuff probably has been
Speaker 3: happening for ages. We just don't have or we just
Speaker 3: didn't have the means of social media where you got
Speaker 3: to see into so many people's lives early on, Like
Speaker 3: in terms of parenting styles, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that would have gone to work earlier, a
Speaker 3: long time ago, but you just didn't see that. Also,
Speaker 3: I feel like people, I don't know why, but people
Speaker 3: have so much to say about parenting and a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't, let's say they don't have kids. It's
Speaker 3: so strange I find it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those random areas where people just
Speaker 1: do have this entitlement about their opinion being relevant. And
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful I must say that. Not once in
Speaker 1: this entire journey, I've had heaps of unsolicited advice, and
Speaker 1: that's quite common as well, but I'm so grateful that
Speaker 1: every single piece of unsolicited advice has been given so kindly, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's been unsolicited, but often it's been really useful, Like people,
Speaker 1: I have to just say again how grateful I am
Speaker 1: for this audience that everyone has been very Like it's
Speaker 1: been in response to me saying he's having trouble with teething,
Speaker 1: and people have been like, oh please don't no obligation,
Speaker 1: but this was really helpful for me, and you might
Speaker 1: find it at this pharmacy, you know, like people have
Speaker 1: been so kind with their advice, So anyone listening, thank
Speaker 1: you for being so gentle and generous in the way
Speaker 1: that you because it's helpful sometimes, Like, there's nothing bad
Speaker 1: about unsolicited advice if it's given really nicely, but I
Speaker 1: think to some parents it's not given in the most
Speaker 1: pleasant way.
Speaker 3: Totally. I think there's a difference between being opinionated or
Speaker 3: having opinions on the way you do things, verse saying
Speaker 3: something like, oh my child had a similar thing, this
Speaker 3: is what we did. Like, I don't find that as
Speaker 3: rude or unsolicited, as just trying to share experiences. They're
Speaker 3: trying to be helpful, yeah, trying to share experiences and knowledge,
Speaker 3: as opposed to being like I cannot believe you've decided
Speaker 3: to pick up days and you're doing radio. Yeah, then
Speaker 3: he's only two weeks or something or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's a very different approach and experience going with things. Anyway.
Speaker 3: I digress because we don't have that much time. But
Speaker 3: I feel like you kind of covered a lot of
Speaker 3: the yays of being a mum in your knaze because
Speaker 3: your specialty is talking a lot, so there has been.
Speaker 1: Thank you for rating me in because one of the
Speaker 1: things I was really worried about was it becoming my
Speaker 1: entire identity, and I didn't want to turn as much
Speaker 1: as I like, I will defend myself for talking a
Speaker 1: lot about Teddy and parenthood because I've always just shared
Speaker 1: the chapter I'm in on all my platforms, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I didn't want it to become a
Speaker 1: baby podcast and a baby Instagram either, So I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a really nice middle ground, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to just talk about my son all the time,
Speaker 1: even though he's the best thing in the entire world
Speaker 1: and perfect, I mean obviously. So anyway, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like your brand has always been whatever your life is
Speaker 3: at that time. Like at one point in time it
Speaker 3: was purely about business and now it's about family and
Speaker 3: that's just how life goes, you know. But we do
Speaker 3: want to get through some why thank you, that's what
Speaker 3: they call me. Why Why. I actually don't know where
Speaker 3: that came from, but I was trying to seguy over
Speaker 3: to we need to do recommendations, which are Olympics obviously
Speaker 3: obviously all Olympic edition because Paris twenty four, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry talking about Yay.
Speaker 1: The Olympics give me so much joy, Like I just
Speaker 1: get so emotional about people's journeys and their families and
Speaker 1: their hopes and dreams, and it just, oh, I just
Speaker 1: I kept really emotional about it.
Speaker 3: I truly wake up every morning and the first thing
Speaker 3: I ask my partner is, so did Jess Fox win?
Speaker 3: Like that's my whole life. My life is consumed around
Speaker 3: like I'll go to sleep watching the last semifinal and
Speaker 3: wake up being like what happened? And then I'll spend
Speaker 3: an hour and a half in bed consuming all of
Speaker 3: the povs of how a swimmer one like their family,
Speaker 3: their brother at home, then like all of these stupid videos,
Speaker 3: and then you see all these other countries and then
Speaker 3: you hear stories. It's just and then like all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I've gotten into the BMX. Wow, these sports,
Speaker 3: but you can just appreciate athleticism in a LIMX without
Speaker 3: it having to be standing in a particular sport. Like totally,
Speaker 3: I've never really watched water polo, watch the whole game
Speaker 3: and the penalties yesterday, never really been that interested in
Speaker 3: BMX and skateboarding. I've watched every single street BMX and
Speaker 3: skateboarding thing, and now I'm like commentating and being like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was a triple flip, one eighty turn.
Speaker 1: What a land I like eating the chip packet on
Speaker 1: the like showing zo row athleticism and haven't moved for
Speaker 1: like forty eight hours, and I'm like, oh my, I
Speaker 1: would not have done it that way, like she is
Speaker 1: not in her best form today, Like.
Speaker 3: All the judgings, I'm like, that is a ninety five. Yeah, clear,
Speaker 3: ninety five.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely doesn't deserve seven, like seven only seven? Mad?
Speaker 3: Yes? And then if you ask me what the criterias,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even vouch it.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I know, looks prettiness.
Speaker 3: It looked like a ninety anyway, But no, what have
Speaker 3: your favorite moments of the Olympics been so far?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of those Olympics where I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I'm way more connected
Speaker 1: in with it than I ever have been, like the
Speaker 1: individual athletes and individual stories and even I think what's
Speaker 1: so wholesome about it is that it transcends geography politics.
Speaker 1: People set aside their stuff worldwide and their differences for humanity,
Speaker 1: and it shows the best of humanity, and so I
Speaker 1: have so many and most of them are obviously Ossie centric,
Speaker 1: but there's also quite a few, like, for example, close
Speaker 1: to home, the South Korean and North Korean table tennis
Speaker 1: teams took a selfie on the podium like that is
Speaker 1: unheard of. Their rivalry has been going like it is violent,
Speaker 1: the rivalry that they have. They're not allowed to speak
Speaker 1: to each other kind of thing, but it unites people
Speaker 1: in such a beautiful way. So I think my very
Speaker 1: very favorite highlights have to be Jess Fox, all of
Speaker 1: the Jess Fox, all of the Fox family related highlights,
Speaker 1: because as you guys know, we've had the privilege of
Speaker 1: having Jess on after Tokyo, where she had started on
Speaker 1: this incredible stellar career and has only just continued to
Speaker 1: blow us all out of the water and break records,
Speaker 1: like just yesterday was it. I think she became the
Speaker 1: most successful CANU slalem athlete ever, and I think she's
Speaker 1: won more individual Olympic medals than any other Australian ever
Speaker 1: and even more special than and that, her dad's a commentator,
Speaker 1: her mom is her coach, who also tried to defend
Speaker 1: the same k one title in two Olympics in ninety
Speaker 1: two and ninety six. Her sister is over there making
Speaker 1: her debut in the Olympics this year, and they're French
Speaker 1: competing in France, Like, oh ah, so exciting. It just
Speaker 1: makes me like the video of Miriam her mum following
Speaker 1: her along like as she did the K one course
Speaker 1: is you guys have to watch it, like we'll share
Speaker 1: on CEZI.
Speaker 2: I think we already have.
Speaker 3: It is so heartwarming, and you have to actually have
Speaker 3: to watch the final, the whole final session to truly
Speaker 3: appreciate how she won, because she actually came in eighth fastest,
Speaker 3: which meant she had to go fourth, and she had
Speaker 3: to wait for eight other athletes to go before she
Speaker 3: knew that her time was the best, and it came
Speaker 3: down to the last athlete who actually got the best
Speaker 3: time in the semi is, So if anyone was going
Speaker 3: to beat her, it was going to be this racer.
Speaker 3: And she actually, I think has a rikarda funk, and
Speaker 3: she was at the twenty first kind of pole thing
Speaker 3: and kind of hit it and missed it, which gives
Speaker 3: you a fifty second penalty. And it was that moment
Speaker 3: that she realized she had won and everyone's like screaming.
Speaker 3: So it was like literally down to the wire in
Speaker 3: terms of because otherwise she was actually on track to
Speaker 3: beat her time and a fifty second penalty completely takes
Speaker 3: you out of any kind of runnings, So it was
Speaker 3: like hectic drama field. I remember putting up a story
Speaker 3: in Jess fox reply and it goes the drama and
Speaker 3: I was like, you should not be checking your dms
Speaker 3: right now. You have a new thing to focus on.
Speaker 3: Whilst I screenshot her reply and sent to everyone, looks
Speaker 3: you replied to me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well she actually sent and a video
Speaker 1: because you were her biggest fan. Well you still are
Speaker 1: her biggest fan, but you were even more fangirl.
Speaker 3: Best to have my life life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back when.
Speaker 1: We did the interview and she recorded a custom video
Speaker 1: which is so sweet.
Speaker 2: So we've been following.
Speaker 1: Along very very keenly, and we'll be doing follow up
Speaker 1: interviews with the Foxes.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We're just really exciting. But a couple of other things
Speaker 1: that have made me really happy. So on the mum front,
Speaker 1: I think it's an American truck star. Alison Felix partnered
Speaker 1: with Hampers and launched the first ever nursery at an
Speaker 1: Olympic Games this year, So for breastfeeding parents, Like, how
Speaker 1: has that never been a thing before?
Speaker 2: Like, what do you even mean?
Speaker 3: That's so awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paris twenty twenty four is the first Olympics in
Speaker 1: history to achieve numerical gender parody with an equal number
Speaker 1: of female and male athletes.
Speaker 3: Yes, huge, huge.
Speaker 1: Even another thing on my list was an Egyptian fencer
Speaker 1: competed while seven months pregnant.
Speaker 3: I saw that. I saw that. That was really cool.
Speaker 3: That was really really cool.
Speaker 1: The US Olympic gymnastics team had the best cheerleader at
Speaker 1: the trials, a therapy dog named Beacon.
Speaker 3: And he had his own badge. Oh my god, I
Speaker 3: can't everything.
Speaker 2: Simone Biles also.
Speaker 3: I've got a good one. It's a rugby seven's New
Speaker 3: Zealand player. It just came up with my TikTok. Actually
Speaker 3: she fan girls. It's I feel like it's so whole.
Speaker 3: And when Olympians fan your other Olympians, sorry, we're all
Speaker 3: so elite, and they're like, fang.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys. I had to run in the middle
Speaker 1: of the eide. We got so close, so close, closer
Speaker 1: than we have in the last because this also happened
Speaker 1: last time, even the one that didn't actually end up
Speaker 1: getting published, but this also happened to us.
Speaker 3: I feel, yes, both times, we got ninety eight percent there,
Speaker 3: like we were literally at the point of one last
Speaker 3: thing and then wrapping up, and then we got to
Speaker 3: the point where it wasn't like wrapped up enough to
Speaker 3: wrap it up, but also like so close that we
Speaker 3: could have. So we're here. I know we've got it.
Speaker 2: We're great, and we did it.
Speaker 1: We're back on the same day, guys. So I signed off,
Speaker 1: I was like literally gave Bim like what two and
Speaker 1: a half seconds. I was like, middle of haha, simone
Speaker 1: bars anyway, Bim, Oh my god, I've got to go
Speaker 1: right now. Bye see Land, bye bye bye, bye bye bye,
Speaker 1: Like this is literally the kind of.
Speaker 2: Friend I've turned into.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could have demonstrated the point I
Speaker 1: made earlier in this episode better then just leaving the
Speaker 1: episode halfway through, because well ninety eight percent of the
Speaker 1: way through, because I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's screaming, I need to go right now. I don't
Speaker 1: think I could even explain to you. I think on
Speaker 1: the recording, I said yeah, we'll finish this later. And
Speaker 1: You're like, I think like five o'clock or like tomorrow, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I was like, I tell you later. By god, go.
Speaker 3: I saw you. I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: ask too many questions because she's really got to go.
Speaker 3: But do I leave it open? Do I am I staying?
Speaker 3: Am I sitting here until she comes back? I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the plan is, but I just like,
Speaker 3: she just left a screen open for the rest from
Speaker 3: then until now, hasn't closed the screen.
Speaker 2: I came back. Well, I was like the check that
Speaker 2: i'd actually stopped reading recording. I came back and I.
Speaker 1: Could hear you in the kitchen and I could just
Speaker 1: hear stuff like you left the window, but it was
Speaker 1: like two hours later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you were like, just leave it open. I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, good at following instructions. Just completely left
Speaker 3: it open.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean you had to steal phones, microphone, I
Speaker 1: don't know have to stay Well, guys, there is a
Speaker 1: real time example of the challenges logistically that I had
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and you've got to experience them in real time.
Speaker 1: He just lost his bananas and like he's in a
Speaker 1: really mummy phase at the moment, and I was the
Speaker 1: only one who could calm him down, and so we've
Speaker 1: got to be agile. So I left it. What do
Speaker 1: you reckon three twenty three? It is now six fifty eight,
Speaker 1: And it took me from then until now to like
Speaker 1: feed him, bath him, get him calm, get him down
Speaker 1: for a nap enough that I could actually come back
Speaker 1: and record and we're doing it.
Speaker 2: So thank you VIIM for your patients.
Speaker 1: And this comes back to at the first thing I
Speaker 1: said when I came back on was to apologize, because
Speaker 1: I do really dislike being that friend who like.
Speaker 3: Oh it's actually I genuinely am not even bothered by
Speaker 3: it one little bit. I'm genuinely zero percent bothered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're like an abnormally flexible friend, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my hamstring's a pretty pretty top.
Speaker 1: Gymnastics Okay, guys, remember when we used to do our
Speaker 1: Playdia was gymnastics.
Speaker 3: I found out of the footage just and I was like,
Speaker 3: that was so fun. That was so fun, Like that
Speaker 3: was so I've never had so much fun doing Like
Speaker 3: I find all sports fun, but that is like play fun,
Speaker 3: like jumping in a phone pit, like like no limits
Speaker 3: to whatever your body's going to do right now, like
Speaker 3: flipping with no fear, Like it's just really fun. And
Speaker 3: the fact that we like, I feel like we got
Speaker 3: the whole place somehow to ourselves each time.
Speaker 1: And I feel like for three very competitive people who
Speaker 1: were like very A type guys in case you missed
Speaker 1: it back in like I don't even know when for
Speaker 1: one birthday and surprised us with a private gymnastics class
Speaker 1: with an actual form of competitive gymnast who became a coach.
Speaker 1: And we loved it so much that Nick Ange and
Speaker 1: I started going to gymnastics classes regularly just for the
Speaker 1: fun of it, where we would like become basically Olympic gymnasts,
Speaker 1: and he feel would let us try stuff that like
Speaker 1: we were terrible at, but we actually got to try
Speaker 1: the uneven bars, like we got to try Pommeer horse,
Speaker 1: we got to try flipping back with into a phone pit,
Speaker 1: even though we were terrible, And it's the definition of
Speaker 1: playta because none of us cared about being good at it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we did we didn't
Speaker 1: put the pressure on ourselves to actually it was just
Speaker 1: for fun and like, I don't think adults really do
Speaker 1: that anymore unless you're going to be good at it,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna make money from it, or you're going
Speaker 1: to be competitive. It's like you don't let yourself because
Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. But we had so much
Speaker 1: fun we have to go back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's also because we knew, we truly
Speaker 3: knew that none of us were good at it, and
Speaker 3: so there was no there's no ability to be competitive.
Speaker 3: Like Nick had strength, you had amazing flexibility, and I
Speaker 3: just was like good vibes. But truthfully, none of us,
Speaker 3: we all sucked.
Speaker 1: I think between the three of us we could have
Speaker 1: been an average gymnast. Like all of us combined could
Speaker 1: be like a very average gymnast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My contribution truly was like the vibes. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: vibes like charisma. That would have been my contribution to personality.
Speaker 2: Now you were like there for the bloops.
Speaker 3: Like culture fit comes the culture higher.
Speaker 2: Culture higher.
Speaker 1: My favorite memory, one of my favorite memories of you,
Speaker 1: You've got to make a meme while the gymnastics is on,
Speaker 1: we're finally circling back to Smone Biles, which is where
Speaker 1: I was up to but is when you were in
Speaker 1: the bucket. Like, so, there's this one move all my
Speaker 1: gymnastics where you use your abs to like circle your
Speaker 1: legs around, and when you're first practicing it, they put
Speaker 1: your feet in a bucket while you hold onto a string.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to explain, but basically it's like the
Speaker 1: very beginner newbie kindergarten level to get you used to
Speaker 1: the feeling.
Speaker 2: And even with their feet.
Speaker 1: In a bucket and couldn't do it, it's the best
Speaker 1: foot each other.
Speaker 3: I actually like to the point where Phil manually pulled
Speaker 3: me around and he's like, Okay, next part's easy, and
Speaker 3: I've I've face planted like I just I physically and
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, everyone's going to struggle with this.
Speaker 3: You didn't You had done like three rotations. Nick done
Speaker 3: three rotations, and I was like, I couldn't even get
Speaker 3: my feet into the bucket.
Speaker 1: The fact that there's actually literally a laundry bucket makes
Speaker 1: it even funnier because it's just a laundry bucket on
Speaker 1: a street.
Speaker 3: So sad like I just I was just so paralyzed.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. You know. Segue into Simone bios,
Speaker 3: which is your recomenation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we were halfway through our Olympic recommendations
Speaker 1: of just things that are really wholesome and feel good.
Speaker 1: We've been meaning to do recommendations for like eighty five
Speaker 1: thousand years and I haven't done them since last year.
Speaker 1: But I think we were up to so anything Simone Biles,
Speaker 1: because she's just renaming, like she's literally redefining gymnastics moves,
Speaker 1: Like there are things called Biles on pretty much every
Speaker 1: different apparatus that no one has ever done before. And
Speaker 1: I love watching people who push the boundaries of like physics.
Speaker 1: She's just insane, insanely amazing. But then how wholesome it
Speaker 1: is that then her and some of the US gymnasts
Speaker 1: like wanted to do a TikTok of their medals and
Speaker 1: like that's all they wanted to do at the end
Speaker 1: of winning.
Speaker 3: I was just so cute.
Speaker 1: It another thing I found I've just like saved all
Speaker 1: these things. A sixty one year old Nisha Leanne, she's
Speaker 1: from Luxembourg. Actually, oh yeah, in table tennis, sixty one
Speaker 1: year old comes out of retirement to become the oldest
Speaker 1: Olympian in Paris, and she just stealed victory to advance
Speaker 1: to the second round.
Speaker 2: So wholesome. She's just like this. Her face so the
Speaker 2: sweetest face. Look at it. Look at that. So it's
Speaker 2: just pure joy.
Speaker 3: So look on the little hands in the air.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's so I just love it, she goes. I
Speaker 1: hope that it will be a beautiful match, but I
Speaker 1: will cherish every point. She's the oldest Olympium at Paris
Speaker 1: and was the oldest in Tokyo. This is her sixth
Speaker 1: lie picks.
Speaker 3: What a legend, What a legend. My final recommendation, I
Speaker 3: actually came up with my TikTok feed, but then I
Speaker 3: followed it and it's actually the greatest thing ever. We
Speaker 3: might actually even repost it onto CZA. But it's of
Speaker 3: a Rugby seven's New Zealand player and it's so funny
Speaker 3: seeing olympians fan your other Olympians like you already yourself
Speaker 3: are like so amazing and then your fangirlings. Anyway, So
Speaker 3: she is an incredible rugby seven's player, like one of
Speaker 3: their best. And she spotted Shelley Anne Phraser Price, who's
Speaker 3: like an amazing sprinter, like one of the best printers
Speaker 3: in the god from Jamaica in the food hall and
Speaker 3: then like there's this video he going oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my god, oh my god, Oh my god, Shelley.
Speaker 3: And then that video sparked for Shelley and Fraser Pist
Speaker 3: to see it and then to follow her on Instagram.
Speaker 3: And then there's this follow up video of so her
Speaker 3: name is MICHAELA. Blythe the New Zealander, her like jumping
Speaker 3: up and down in her dorm room being like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, oh my gosh, she's followed me, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And then it's a video of like all and all
Speaker 3: of their friends drafting up a response like she's like,
Speaker 3: maybe you look cool, make me look cool, like say something.
Speaker 3: And then they meet up and then they have this
Speaker 3: hug at the village and then Shelley and Fraser Price
Speaker 3: goes to watch her rugby seven's game, So this full circle.
Speaker 3: But it was like this giddy, really like wholesome, olympian
Speaker 3: stand olympian whole, like you forget that they're just humans
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like they're still they
Speaker 3: have idols as well. So yeah, I reckon, we'll probably
Speaker 3: repost it to CSIER. But it was like I've watched
Speaker 3: it so many times because it's both funny and sweet,
Speaker 3: so so yeah, I reckon that will be my recommendation.
Speaker 1: I also love how there's a photo of Jess Fox
Speaker 1: back to Jess Fox.
Speaker 2: We're circling back a lot today.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so many circles and like like five
Speaker 1: Olympic circles. Anyway, off, we have to have finish it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a photo of Jess Fox with Animeirs. I think
Speaker 1: it was at Sydney two thousand or something. It's like
Speaker 1: when Jess is really young, and I kind of remember
Speaker 1: the context, but I'll find the photo and it's really sweet.
Speaker 1: It's like Jess looking up to Anna, who's an Australian Olympian,
Speaker 1: and Jess like, you know, it's well before she was
Speaker 1: close to making the Olympics herself.
Speaker 2: She was like a really young kid.
Speaker 1: And then however, many years later, Anna is the Chef
Speaker 1: de mission and Jess is the flag bearer and then
Speaker 1: one of the most successful Olympian Australian Olympian of all time.
Speaker 2: Like how wild is that?
Speaker 1: The full circle of people's dreams that people end up
Speaker 1: overlapping on games with their idols is so special.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I truly every time I see things like that,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I forget they you know, like there's commenting, like,
Speaker 3: you know, the Matildas are commenting on Oh Sam Kirk
Speaker 3: comments on Jess Fox's view and goes the goat. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a real wholesome vibe. I think. So I think
Speaker 3: talent recognizes talent they.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that way like you and I recognize
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 3: And that is where we end today's episode.
Speaker 1: You know what, this is actually going to be really
Speaker 1: difficult for us because it's been four months and this
Speaker 1: is kind of like, yeah, our lives is a bit
Speaker 1: like a dear diary catch up. There is no way
Speaker 1: we were ever going to be able to catch up
Speaker 1: on that many weeks. I'm just going to trust. Like,
Speaker 1: this is another really hard thing as a perfectionist who
Speaker 1: really feels like I need to express myself and keep
Speaker 1: people up to date, and I hate when the chapters
Speaker 1: are out of order and all that kind of thing
Speaker 1: that there's like such a big gap that I can't
Speaker 1: update everyone on everything that happened in that time because
Speaker 1: it's just going to take like seven episodes. So I
Speaker 1: just need to start again afresh and just assume they're
Speaker 1: followed along.
Speaker 2: On socials.
Speaker 1: So, guys, I've missed so much stuff that's happened in between.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to assume that you watched on other platforms,
Speaker 1: and we're starting from now. And now we're back and
Speaker 1: we covered such random shit today and we'll be back
Speaker 1: in four months ninety two.
Speaker 3: We will seeing you in December.
Speaker 2: December twenty twenty five. No, we'll see you at the
Speaker 2: next Olympics.
Speaker 3: We'll see you at mid ear fee. We'll see at
Speaker 3: the next ear fee.
Speaker 1: We'll see you in Q two twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3: We will seeing you in when Sarah turns forty.
Speaker 2: So like tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh my godshut up, and we haven't even spoken about
Speaker 1: Oh my god. In two days we are going on
Speaker 1: our first family trip for a wedding and it's next
Speaker 1: fortieth traveling with child, getting ready for a long haul.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's so much we haven't covered.
Speaker 3: We know, but no, but we have. That means we
Speaker 3: have to have a recap after of your first trip away. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because the logistics, I'll make it happen. Don't worry, guys. Unreliable,
Speaker 3: are reliable with capital. I'll make it happen, even if
Speaker 3: it's a self monologue of base.
Speaker 1: You've told me you know what I should just delegate? Yes,
Speaker 1: do you know I should have done that? I should
Speaker 1: have got you to do This is.
Speaker 3: The update Sarah told me now, But you should have.
Speaker 1: Been doing the updates all this time of like, okay,
Speaker 1: Sarah texted me. So I've pieced together that this week
Speaker 1: she's not good, but next week I feel like she'll
Speaker 1: be better.
Speaker 3: And quote unquote, we are having a great time in Italy.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you so much, Bim for being so patient.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, our listeners for being so patient.
Speaker 1: We will get back into our groove. It will probably
Speaker 1: be piecemeal. There will be bits and pieces. I can't
Speaker 1: even say that we had structure before though, to be honest.
Speaker 1: So it's not like they're getting anything.
Speaker 2: They're not. That's not like much has changed.
Speaker 3: We've primed them them.
Speaker 1: We've been preparing our whole lives for this moment. Thank you, Bim,
Speaker 1: love you so much, so grateful for you being so patient.
Speaker 1: And guys, please let us know what else you want.
Speaker 2: Us to talk back.
Speaker 1: Oh, we had years on the questions.
Speaker 3: We have got questions, Yes, we have so many, but
Speaker 3: we will have to say it for next time. We
Speaker 3: also have like my chalk and cheese. We have so
Speaker 3: many chalk and cheese. I think the next episode will
Speaker 3: be quite funny, but.
Speaker 2: This one was supposed to be funny.
Speaker 3: Oh you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys.
Speaker 1: Teaser for next time is the Things that Ange Says
Speaker 1: wrong and the chalk and Cheese, which is chalk and
Speaker 1: cheese which she literally thought was chalk and cheese. Anyways, wait, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting me off. I'm cutting me off.
Speaker 2: I love you. I'll see you in like a month.
Speaker 3: Love you. Bye,