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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma mea acknowledges the

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Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is

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Speaker 1: recorded on. Hi. I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's

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Speaker 1: daily news podcast, The Quickie. The Paris Games are almost here,

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Speaker 1: athletes are qualifying, teams are being finalized and uniforms handed out.

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Speaker 1: But behind the scenes in France there's something overshadowing all

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Speaker 1: of that, the country's politics.

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Speaker 2: The New Front Populaire is the surprise winner of France's

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Speaker 2: snap election. The polls a week ago were predicting France's

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Speaker 2: first far right government since the Nazi occupation in World

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Speaker 1: Today will delve into the surprising turn of events that

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Speaker 1: led to the left taking down the right at the

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Speaker 1: Paris elections and why that seems to be a trend

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Speaker 1: interrupting the rise of the far right in Europe. But

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Speaker 1: before we unpack all that, here's the latest from the

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Speaker 1: Cookie newsroom. Wednesday, July ten. A new report from the

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Speaker 1: Australian Institute of Criminology has found that more than one

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Speaker 1: in five Australians have been the perpetray of sexual violence

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Speaker 1: after the age of eighteen. The term sexual violence was

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Speaker 1: used to describe a range of actions. The most common

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Speaker 1: form reported by those who are anonymously responded to the

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Speaker 1: survey was pressuring someone for dates or sex, followed by

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Speaker 1: emotionally or psychologically manipulating someone to participate in sexual activity,

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Speaker 1: non consensual kissing and then non consensual touching. Eleven percent

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Speaker 1: admitted to sexually assaulting someone and two point seven percent

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Speaker 1: admitted to perpetrating sexual intercourse without consent. The report was

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Speaker 1: based on responses from over five thousand Australians aged eighteen

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Speaker 1: to forty five. Fifty percent of the respondents were women

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Speaker 1: and forty nine percent men, with men significantly more likely

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Speaker 1: than women to commit sexual violence. Alice Springs Peak Body

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Speaker 1: for Indigenous Children and Families says a lockdown is not

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Speaker 1: the solution to curbing crime in the town. Instead, the

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Speaker 1: focus needs to be on improving the lives of Aboriginal

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Speaker 1: families and children. Prompted by an escalation of violence last weekend,

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Try Police ordered a three night public

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Speaker 1: be extended. National Aboriginal and Islander Childcare, Indigenous Australians Minister

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Speaker 1: jimper Price alsoy curfews are only a temporary solution and

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Speaker 1: only long term measures like improving town camps where some

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Speaker 1: live in poverty, is the answer to helping halt the

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Speaker 1: escalation of crime and violence. Just over a year after

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Speaker 1: her husband and former Russian opposition leader died in a

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Speaker 1: labor camp, Julia Navagna has been threatened with arrest by

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Speaker 1: a Russian court. The forty seven year old has stepped

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Speaker 1: penal colony in February, saying she'll continue to fight for

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Speaker 1: what Alexina Valley called the beautiful Russia of the future,

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Speaker 1: calling on people to not focus on her and the

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Speaker 1: court's decision to brand her a participant in an extremist group,

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Speaker 1: to remember that Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is a

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Speaker 1: murderer and war criminal. Putin's war on Ukraine has again

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Arandra Amodi the next day, the Indian leader

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Speaker 1: telling Putin the death of innocent children is painful and terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Russia denies it was their missile that hit the hospital,

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Speaker 1: claiming it was the Ukrainian anti missile system that caused

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Speaker 1: the damage. Gipsy Rose Blanchard, the girl who went to

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Speaker 1: That's the latest news headlines. Next, What the heck happened

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Speaker 1: lowdown on the political chaos facing the city that's about

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Speaker 1: to host an Olympic Games. Welcome all to the politics Olympics.

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Speaker 1: The Paris Games are now just over a fortnight away,

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Speaker 1: and while sports fans are gearing up for some late

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Speaker 1: more absorbed in what went down in the elections this

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Speaker 1: past weekend. French voters first went to the polls on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: after President Emmanuel Macron dissolved the National Assembly when his party,

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Speaker 1: who represents the French government at the European Union. France

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Speaker 1: the president is elected by the people once every five years,

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Speaker 1: then choose a prime minister, who will usually come from

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Speaker 1: they're recently voted in, and after that first round of

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Speaker 1: voting on June thirty, it looked like Marine Le Penn's

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Speaker 1: But when the French people went back to vote in

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Speaker 1: round two this past Sunday, that result was turned on

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Speaker 1: its head. A coalition put together in just the last month,

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Speaker 1: the leftist New Popular Front, made up of the four

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Speaker 1: main left wing parties, the Socialists, Greens, Communists and France Unbowed,

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Speaker 1: The scenes from Paris show crowds of thousands in the

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Speaker 1: two of Europe's largest countries have chosen the same path

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Speaker 1: of course, but also the recent election in the UK

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Speaker 1: person usually comes from the party that wins the majority.

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Speaker 1: But could all this unse certainty lead to some trying

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Speaker 1: is not the first time politics and the Olympics have intersected.

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Speaker 1: Even at the very beginning of the Modern Games, held

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Speaker 1: Palestinian terrorists took eleven Israeli athletes hostage in the village

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Speaker 3: The government shot dead to Israelis are now holding twenty

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Speaker 1: made political statements too, like in nineteen sixty eight, when

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Speaker 4: Was what happened here on Wednesday really a protest, a

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Speaker 1: tell them what I'll do if I get up there

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Speaker 1: next time. The politics of the country in which the

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Speaker 3: Rebelling Mexico City students throughout the Olympic Games and the

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Speaker 1: So, while the Olympics have not been politics free in

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Speaker 1: its time, will this domestic election turmoil in France have

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Speaker 1: any impact to break it down? Is Keith suitor, globalist

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Speaker 1: political instability of this French election result impact the games

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to impact the Olympic Games.

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Speaker 4: I think the Olympic game arrangements are already well on track,

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the surprising turn of events.

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Speaker 1: After the first round of voting, it looked almost certain

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Speaker 4: And says that the French election system is very different

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Speaker 4: up for reelections. We're just talking about the composition of

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Speaker 4: the parliament. The parliament looked as though it was going

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Speaker 4: a matter of days.

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Speaker 1: People seem to be quite divided about this. One side

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Speaker 1: of saying how it is a like a leftist conspiracy

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Speaker 1: that they've only come together to fight off this conservative rise,

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Speaker 1: and others are saying finally the French had something to

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Speaker 1: vote for, which banded them together. How do you see

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Speaker 4: I think both probably are quite correct, ironically, and the French,

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Speaker 4: you know, think very independently for themselves, so it's very

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Speaker 4: difficult to predict one way or the other. And I

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Speaker 4: think the French have decided, as is often the case,

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Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised by what we've seen in France.

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Speaker 4: So they're obviously very worried about the rise of the

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Speaker 1: It seems this is a little different to what we

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Speaker 1: quite convincingly by the Labor Party, and Spain we saw

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Speaker 1: fight off a far right rise as well. Are we

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Speaker 1: actually seeing a halt of this rise of far right

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Speaker 1: idealism across Europe? Now you think, no, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think that that risk remains. I think that what

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Speaker 4: and if give voters the opportunity to express their views,

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Speaker 4: they will take it. Rishi Sunat gambled on an early election.

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Speaker 4: President Macran gambled on having an early election for the

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Speaker 4: French part and both of them have failed. Voters are

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Speaker 4: very angry, They're very unhappy with the state of the economy,

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Speaker 4: the cost of living, etc. Immigration is a major concern,

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Speaker 4: and so politicians, if they call early elections, will get punished.

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Speaker 1: Where do you see things going from here? If in

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Speaker 1: election time they are just managing to hold off these

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Speaker 1: what happens from here? If it's a fight now next

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Speaker 1: time elections.

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Speaker 4: Come around exactly, And I think the far right are

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Speaker 4: playing a long game and they expect ultimately to appear

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Speaker 4: to take control. So it may well be that France

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Speaker 4: is just a little way behind Italy and France eventually

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Speaker 4: expects to have a far right wing government in the

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Speaker 4: same way that Easley does as well.

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Speaker 1: Just finally, how do you see that reflecting outside of Europe?

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Speaker 1: Say to here in Australia, where when the Morrison government

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Speaker 1: was removed from power and the Aberneze government came in,

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Speaker 1: we felt like it was a real statement against that

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Speaker 1: conservative government. Do you think the influence of that sort

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Speaker 1: of far right is still happening here in Australia?

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Speaker 4: being harsh on immigrants, etc. That remains very much part

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Speaker 4: because of our voting system. The voting system forces people

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Speaker 4: into the middle right, and it's composedory voting, very different

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Speaker 4: where you have only voluntary voting and where it pays

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Speaker 4: to be an extremist. In Australia it pays to be

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Speaker 1: So the politics in France may be in chaos, but

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Speaker 1: the games, it seem, will go on despite it all

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Speaker 1: unless the athletes get caught up in the airport workers

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Speaker 1: strike set for July seventeen, just nine days before the

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Speaker 1: opening day. Good Luck Assis. The quickie is produced by

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Speaker 1: me Claire Murphy and I'll Senior producer Taylor Strano, with

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Speaker 1: audio production by Jacob Brown,