WEBVTT - How To Elevate A Boring Outfit On A Budget 0:00:09.985 --> 0:00:15.265 Said you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 0:00:15.305 --> 0:00:18.345 the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 0:00:18.465 --> 0:00:22.585 is recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink 0:00:22.745 --> 0:00:26.385 with seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 0:00:26.665 --> 0:00:28.945 Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 0:00:29.025 --> 0:00:29.745 for fashion. 0:00:31.145 --> 0:00:34.145 Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 0:00:34.265 --> 0:00:37.905 solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 0:00:37.985 --> 0:00:40.545 Campbell and every week I talk to an expert who 0:00:40.625 --> 0:00:42.545 helps us work out how to get more out of 0:00:42.545 --> 0:00:45.345 the clothes we already own and tells us exactly what 0:00:45.625 --> 0:00:48.905 is and what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. If 0:00:48.945 --> 0:00:52.145 you love fashion but haven't quite cracked the code on 0:00:52.225 --> 0:00:56.265 secondhand shopping, this episode is for you. Today we're talking 0:00:56.305 --> 0:00:59.185 all about pre love fashion, how to find the best pieces, 0:00:59.345 --> 0:01:02.945 what to avoid, and how to make vintage finds feel modern, 0:01:03.345 --> 0:01:06.825 plus how to elevate quote unquote boring outfits without breaking 0:01:06.865 --> 0:01:10.905 the bank. Joining me today is Mattia and Julia. They're 0:01:10.945 --> 0:01:13.905 their sisters behind Love It Longer, which is a carefully 0:01:14.025 --> 0:01:17.785 curated pre love designer store with a cult following online. 0:01:18.265 --> 0:01:20.785 With over twenty years in the fashion industry, they know 0:01:20.905 --> 0:01:24.185 exactly how to give clothes a second life and help 0:01:24.225 --> 0:01:27.985 you build a wardrobe that's both stylish and sustainable. Matia 0:01:28.025 --> 0:01:31.385 and Julia, welcome to the show. And if you listen regularly, 0:01:31.425 --> 0:01:33.545 you'll know I'm going to start with some questions, so 0:01:33.585 --> 0:01:36.425 you might be ready. Julia, let's start with you. Can 0:01:36.465 --> 0:01:38.745 you describe your style in three words? 0:01:39.105 --> 0:01:43.545 Yeah, so I would think I'm pretty classic timeless, but 0:01:43.625 --> 0:01:45.985 I like to have a little bit of edge with 0:01:46.065 --> 0:01:49.185 my accessories. I copy Materia a lot, to be honest, 0:01:49.785 --> 0:01:53.105 I'm the older sister, so whatever she's doing, I try 0:01:53.145 --> 0:01:53.345 to do. 0:01:53.585 --> 0:01:55.825 You're the older so you're trying to be younger and cooler. 0:01:56.145 --> 0:01:59.225 Maybe be cooler, but then you know, I always go 0:01:59.305 --> 0:02:01.105 back to being pretty classic in time. 0:02:01.305 --> 0:02:03.945 Okay, Julia, what's your vibe? What are your three words? 0:02:04.345 --> 0:02:07.265 We dress quite similt. As Julia mentioned, we do copy 0:02:07.305 --> 0:02:11.185 each other, but I think Matt Skilling is am I 0:02:11.185 --> 0:02:12.065 pronouncing that right. Yeah. 0:02:13.665 --> 0:02:15.585 I go for timeless dressing too. 0:02:15.745 --> 0:02:18.465 I'm really conscious in my buying now, but yeah, I 0:02:18.625 --> 0:02:19.985 like to add a little bit of edge. 0:02:20.385 --> 0:02:22.425 Now. The theory that we think is pretty true for 0:02:22.465 --> 0:02:24.785 most people, there's ten percent of our wardrobe we wear 0:02:24.825 --> 0:02:27.225 the most and the other ninety percent is there and 0:02:27.265 --> 0:02:28.945 we wear it, but that's that ten percent that we 0:02:28.985 --> 0:02:31.425 go back to. So Julia, what's in your ten percent? 0:02:32.105 --> 0:02:36.865 Oh, definitely denim. I just wear denim on rotation. I 0:02:36.945 --> 0:02:40.945 love a good white T shirt. I can't go past it. 0:02:41.505 --> 0:02:43.265 I always have a red lipond. 0:02:43.985 --> 0:02:44.985 We both do today. 0:02:45.145 --> 0:02:46.145 I always do. 0:02:46.225 --> 0:02:49.385 I even wear it at homely, so I don't know 0:02:49.665 --> 0:02:51.545 my husband has ever seen me without it. 0:02:51.585 --> 0:02:53.385 This isn't my beauty podcast, but now I need to 0:02:53.385 --> 0:02:54.585 know the red lead. What do you wear? 0:02:55.225 --> 0:02:58.265 Well, sometimes it's hourglass, sometimes it's imper beauty. Do you 0:02:58.265 --> 0:03:00.225 know what I'm saying? Like, I'm that girl, I've got 0:03:00.265 --> 0:03:01.625 you and everything in between. 0:03:01.665 --> 0:03:04.385 Okay, So you're not loyal to one't interesting? Okay? And 0:03:04.465 --> 0:03:05.665 what's your ten percent? 0:03:05.865 --> 0:03:11.505 Definitely denim, whether it's blue, black, white, green, blazer. Always 0:03:11.545 --> 0:03:14.145 go to a blazer. And yeah, a good T shirt 0:03:14.145 --> 0:03:16.705 called polo cardigan ten percent. 0:03:16.865 --> 0:03:17.705 Yeah, cardigan. 0:03:17.785 --> 0:03:19.905 I love a good cardigan. I can't always style it, 0:03:19.945 --> 0:03:22.665 but I just much prefer it. Well, I like growing 0:03:22.705 --> 0:03:24.185 a dumper when it's really cold, but when you're not 0:03:24.185 --> 0:03:25.865 sure of the weather and a cardigan you need to 0:03:25.865 --> 0:03:27.065 get on and off, and you don't want to ruin 0:03:27.105 --> 0:03:27.625 your hairt. 0:03:29.625 --> 0:03:33.305 Che underneath, especially in Melbourne because the mornings are so 0:03:33.505 --> 0:03:36.385 cold and then it's afternoon asiler. 0:03:35.945 --> 0:03:39.825 So you're like ripping it off. Now let's talk about 0:03:39.825 --> 0:03:43.905 Love It Longer. Firstly, fantastic name, but what inspired you 0:03:43.945 --> 0:03:46.465 both to start Love It Longer? Was there a particular 0:03:46.545 --> 0:03:48.905 moment that sparked the idea? And for listeners that don't 0:03:48.905 --> 0:03:50.025 know what is love It Longer? 0:03:50.625 --> 0:03:51.145 So Love It. 0:03:51.185 --> 0:03:55.585 Longer is a pre love designer consignment store. We sell 0:03:55.705 --> 0:03:58.665 to women all over Australia. It's a family run visitors, 0:03:58.745 --> 0:04:01.745 so it's me, my sister Julia, and our mum is 0:04:01.745 --> 0:04:04.225 in the background. And we also have an employee called 0:04:04.225 --> 0:04:06.465 Emily who is also like a sister tour so it's 0:04:06.465 --> 0:04:08.465 a very small, tight knit business. 0:04:08.665 --> 0:04:08.865 Yeah. 0:04:09.825 --> 0:04:12.305 We actually were both working in fashion. I was working 0:04:12.305 --> 0:04:14.385 at Scanlon Theaterre and I was there for ten years. 0:04:14.465 --> 0:04:18.505 Matiir was pr fashion been there for over god twelve years. Yeah, 0:04:18.505 --> 0:04:21.145 and we both were pregnant. We got pregnant again for 0:04:21.185 --> 0:04:23.665 the second time. Yeah, and we were like, oh my god, 0:04:24.025 --> 0:04:24.985 we're unemployable. 0:04:25.705 --> 0:04:27.185 No, but I know what you mean. It is a 0:04:27.185 --> 0:04:28.425 scary life stage. 0:04:28.585 --> 0:04:31.265 We were also driving to South Yarra every day and 0:04:31.265 --> 0:04:34.145 those familiar with Melbourne beat in the car with your 0:04:34.145 --> 0:04:36.065 second trial getting to drop off. 0:04:36.185 --> 0:04:36.945 It was too much. 0:04:36.985 --> 0:04:39.145 So I knew a lot of women from working at 0:04:39.145 --> 0:04:42.545 Scanlon on the floor selling who had all these clothes 0:04:42.705 --> 0:04:44.065 and they didn't know what to do with them, and 0:04:44.105 --> 0:04:45.745 they would say to me in the change room, Julia, 0:04:45.825 --> 0:04:47.425 what do I do with all these clothes? I said 0:04:47.465 --> 0:04:49.385 to Mattia, do you know what, Let's let's. 0:04:49.145 --> 0:04:51.865 Start something in the North. And it just started off 0:04:51.865 --> 0:04:53.305 with a few of my clients. 0:04:53.345 --> 0:04:56.505 Matia has a great contact and then it just really 0:04:56.785 --> 0:05:00.225 grew organically and now we're shipping all over Australia. We've 0:05:00.265 --> 0:05:03.025 got a website. We just are moving. We've been in 0:05:03.065 --> 0:05:05.745 the same spot for four years. We're moving into a 0:05:05.865 --> 0:05:09.505 house in Rathdown Village, so the whole home will be love. 0:05:09.305 --> 0:05:12.105 A long yeah, and it's kind of branded as the 0:05:12.105 --> 0:05:16.385 House of Circular Fashions. So it's just growingly, really organically 0:05:16.425 --> 0:05:19.185 and quickly, and we really we're happy. 0:05:19.385 --> 0:05:19.585 Yeah. 0:05:20.265 --> 0:05:22.745 And so Circular Fashion was definitely having a moment then, 0:05:22.865 --> 0:05:25.145 but I can imagine in the last four years you 0:05:25.185 --> 0:05:27.665 would have seen it just explode. Can you talk me 0:05:27.705 --> 0:05:29.065 through that and why you think that is. 0:05:29.905 --> 0:05:32.785 I think when we started, like you said, Lee, no 0:05:32.865 --> 0:05:36.465 one was really doing it. I think the whole circular 0:05:36.505 --> 0:05:40.745 fashion and buying pre loved has evolved and changed. I remember, 0:05:41.185 --> 0:05:43.905 let's say six years ago, no one was really buying 0:05:43.985 --> 0:05:45.545 pre loved, or if you did, it was a bit 0:05:45.545 --> 0:05:46.225 of a secret. 0:05:46.385 --> 0:05:47.545 Yeah, But now it's. 0:05:47.385 --> 0:05:50.785 Almost celebrated and it's almost cool to buy pre loved 0:05:50.865 --> 0:05:53.065 and have that item that no one else has. And 0:05:53.145 --> 0:05:55.905 I think it's also about the whole sustainability and people 0:05:55.945 --> 0:05:56.905 are more educated. 0:05:57.025 --> 0:05:59.865 But we work with a young students. 0:05:59.545 --> 0:06:02.265 From the National Fashion College, from the National Fashion College, 0:06:02.305 --> 0:06:05.585 and one of their whole curriculums is about sustainability. 0:06:05.905 --> 0:06:07.945 So everyone's just more educated on it. 0:06:07.985 --> 0:06:12.225 And everyone's selling just about the money, every one self, 0:06:12.825 --> 0:06:15.665 it's about the environment, it's about not feeling. 0:06:15.345 --> 0:06:20.225 Guilty buying more. It's just changed change. 0:06:20.945 --> 0:06:23.105 I agree, you guys got in it exactly the right time. 0:06:23.585 --> 0:06:25.745 Regular nothing to our listeners. Know how much I love 0:06:25.785 --> 0:06:28.665 secondhand shopping, and that's a really broad term. I guess 0:06:28.665 --> 0:06:30.425 you know it can be thrifting in your Vinni's and 0:06:30.425 --> 0:06:32.985 your charity shops and it can be high end luxury 0:06:32.985 --> 0:06:35.385 and more where you guys sit. But then there's still 0:06:35.465 --> 0:06:38.505 some people that aren't keen on it, maybe have sort 0:06:38.505 --> 0:06:40.545 of an older view of what it was back in 0:06:40.585 --> 0:06:44.105 the day, you know, like a stinky eighties blouse, or 0:06:44.145 --> 0:06:46.185 they just don't know how to find the good stuff. 0:06:46.225 --> 0:06:49.065 So how do we help these people get into all 0:06:49.185 --> 0:06:50.825 spectrums of prelove shopping. 0:06:50.985 --> 0:06:53.145 Yeah, I think, like you said, it is so broad 0:06:53.185 --> 0:06:56.105 and it can sometimes be overwhelming, but there is like 0:06:56.225 --> 0:06:59.065 our space is more curated, right, so we want a 0:06:59.065 --> 0:07:02.505 hard work for the shoppers. We are so selective with 0:07:02.545 --> 0:07:05.225 what we take. It's like a boutique experience. But if 0:07:05.225 --> 0:07:06.945 you don't want that, you could go to more like 0:07:06.945 --> 0:07:09.185 a rent to act. There's something for everyone, but I 0:07:09.185 --> 0:07:12.065 think you have to pick what, like she said, what 0:07:12.105 --> 0:07:14.905 you're into, what kind of brands you want to find, 0:07:15.385 --> 0:07:17.945 and start there or else it can be really really overwhelming, 0:07:18.065 --> 0:07:22.305 And that's why we have such a curated range, and 0:07:22.425 --> 0:07:25.825 every item we've select has gone through a process because 0:07:25.865 --> 0:07:28.905 we are only taking pieces that we would wear. Yeah, 0:07:28.945 --> 0:07:30.745 I think you've just got to find your niche in 0:07:30.785 --> 0:07:32.705 the whole pre love I think. 0:07:32.585 --> 0:07:35.705 With us as well, having our mum who's in her 0:07:36.065 --> 0:07:39.705 late sixties. I'm in my forties, materis in her thirties, 0:07:39.705 --> 0:07:40.825 and Emily's in her twenties. 0:07:40.865 --> 0:07:42.505 We've got everyone covered. 0:07:42.865 --> 0:07:45.465 Mum takes pieces that she thinks women of her age 0:07:45.465 --> 0:07:47.865 would we but she's cool, like, she's got great style. 0:07:48.425 --> 0:07:50.225 A lot of women come in of all ages and 0:07:50.225 --> 0:07:51.265 they feel seen. 0:07:51.705 --> 0:07:53.505 So we started, you know, I guess maybe a more 0:07:53.545 --> 0:07:55.185 high end place if we're not sure. But I think 0:07:55.185 --> 0:07:56.785 a lot of people are really keen to get into 0:07:56.785 --> 0:07:59.825 secondhand shopping, obviously for the sustainability, but also for the price. 0:07:59.905 --> 0:08:02.265 So is there any more general info if they can't 0:08:02.305 --> 0:08:04.225 get to you guys or you know, they want to 0:08:04.945 --> 0:08:07.585 really be conscious of their budget. Do they look for fabricous? 0:08:07.625 --> 0:08:10.425 You know they're popping to their Vinnies or their Red Cross. 0:08:10.625 --> 0:08:11.305 What do we look for? 0:08:11.705 --> 0:08:12.345 It's a big one. 0:08:12.385 --> 0:08:16.545 You're right, you need to buy. Well, don't just buy 0:08:16.625 --> 0:08:18.865 because it's cheap and you think, oh, you know, it's 0:08:18.865 --> 0:08:20.785 going to sit in your wardrobe and it's still not 0:08:20.825 --> 0:08:22.785 great for the environment, even if it's pre loved and 0:08:22.785 --> 0:08:25.225 it's you're not wearing it. Yeah, it's not a great fabric. 0:08:25.345 --> 0:08:28.105 We really try to take pieces that are really well made. 0:08:28.465 --> 0:08:31.185 So even when you're at the Salvation Army or Vine's, 0:08:31.265 --> 0:08:34.865 look for those pieces that have good fabrics and unique 0:08:34.945 --> 0:08:36.665 and unique and that you will wear. 0:08:37.025 --> 0:08:38.025 Otherwise there's no point. 0:08:38.145 --> 0:08:41.065 Okay, you're just filling with clutter. Yeah, don't just go 0:08:41.145 --> 0:08:43.505 with the trend of buying pre love. Still buy pre 0:08:43.585 --> 0:08:44.385 love consciously. 0:08:54.785 --> 0:08:56.985 What does good mean? Is it looking that all the 0:08:57.025 --> 0:08:59.705 buttons work or the zips work? Do we always try on? 0:08:59.865 --> 0:09:02.305 Is it smelling like? How can we? Obviously you guys 0:09:02.345 --> 0:09:03.985 have done all that for us when we come to 0:09:04.025 --> 0:09:08.065 see you or buy online. But more generally we're secondhand shopping. 0:09:08.145 --> 0:09:09.425 How do we vet an item? 0:09:09.945 --> 0:09:13.585 Sometimes when I'm secondhand shopping, I go into this mode 0:09:13.585 --> 0:09:16.145 where I get so excited and that my eyes start 0:09:16.225 --> 0:09:18.705 rolling back and I get the adrenaline and I'm starting 0:09:18.745 --> 0:09:21.785 to really take a minute breathe, go for a little 0:09:21.785 --> 0:09:22.825 walk around the shop. 0:09:23.225 --> 0:09:25.385 Make sure you really need the piece. Try it on, 0:09:25.545 --> 0:09:27.705 see if it's working, see if it really looks good. 0:09:27.785 --> 0:09:31.025 Don't get so caught up in the thrill. In the 0:09:31.105 --> 0:09:33.665 thrill of it, and I make that mistake too. 0:09:33.705 --> 0:09:35.625 Sometimes I do too, because it's a one off. So 0:09:35.625 --> 0:09:38.865 you're not you've seen sixteen of the same thing, and 0:09:38.905 --> 0:09:40.545 you can go and think about it and come back 0:09:40.585 --> 0:09:42.585 next week. Because it's a one off, it's hard not 0:09:42.705 --> 0:09:47.225 to get that impulse and it is exciting, so you think, definitely, 0:09:47.305 --> 0:09:49.625 always try everything on, because that's the part I can't 0:09:49.625 --> 0:09:50.265 be bothered with. 0:09:50.745 --> 0:09:52.225 I think, yes, try it on. 0:09:52.465 --> 0:09:56.225 I know sometimes at pre love stores like Savers or 0:09:56.265 --> 0:09:59.305 Goodbyes or you might feel intimidated to try things on 0:09:59.345 --> 0:10:02.905 because they're hectic. Some of these pre love experiences. It's 0:10:02.945 --> 0:10:07.745 like a nightclub. But stop breathe, find that space. Put 0:10:07.785 --> 0:10:10.945 on those Levi jeans, make sure sure they fit. I 0:10:10.985 --> 0:10:14.065 know we spoke about bedding, the garment, making sure it's 0:10:14.105 --> 0:10:16.905 good quality, whatever, but sometimes you'll find a pair of 0:10:16.985 --> 0:10:19.745 jeans that may be missing a butt in or maybe 0:10:19.785 --> 0:10:22.865 a little bit stained. Don't get too put off because 0:10:23.105 --> 0:10:26.865 how many garments, Julia, we mound and we've washed or 0:10:27.065 --> 0:10:30.145 taken to moms or my non news and they're fixed 0:10:30.265 --> 0:10:33.505 and they're amazing. So yeah, just be a bit flexible. 0:10:33.665 --> 0:10:34.465 But take your time. 0:10:34.545 --> 0:10:36.065 That is such a good point. Yeah, if you love 0:10:36.105 --> 0:10:38.665 it enough and you think it's fixable, just really assess it. 0:10:38.905 --> 0:10:42.065 What about taking a friend because producer Grace, who's sitting 0:10:42.065 --> 0:10:43.905 in the booth there. I took her on her first 0:10:44.025 --> 0:10:46.465 thrifting experience and she was very overwhelmed. But I love 0:10:46.505 --> 0:10:48.625 seeing that she still wears the stuff we got a 0:10:48.705 --> 0:10:50.785 year later. So do you take a friend who is 0:10:50.865 --> 0:10:52.345 good at the secondhand stuff? 0:10:52.625 --> 0:10:54.945 I mean, listen, I don't like shopping with friends, to 0:10:54.985 --> 0:10:56.865 be honest, that's me having said that. 0:10:56.945 --> 0:10:59.065 I still call my mum and I'm forty two. Miss 0:10:59.065 --> 0:11:01.785 the fact I'm shocking like that. 0:11:02.425 --> 0:11:04.705 I think, yes, but it can be a bit competitive. 0:11:04.945 --> 0:11:07.585 Like honestly, sometimes when I go throughfty with a friend, 0:11:07.585 --> 0:11:11.305 I might move out of mine. I can see that 0:11:11.385 --> 0:11:14.145 piece and I want it. So I mean each to 0:11:14.185 --> 0:11:16.345 their own. But yes, if you feel like you're not 0:11:16.385 --> 0:11:19.025 confident in that space, definitely take a friend or you 0:11:19.065 --> 0:11:21.905 know a sister who I would bring and get bad advice. 0:11:21.985 --> 0:11:23.785 But no, there's only one item. 0:11:24.105 --> 0:11:25.825 So if it's your day, it's your day, and you've 0:11:25.825 --> 0:11:27.745 got to get to that rap the fastest. 0:11:28.065 --> 0:11:30.105 That is such a good unique point. It's not like 0:11:30.145 --> 0:11:32.505 strolling Westfields, where if you both really love it and 0:11:32.625 --> 0:11:34.385 decide to wear it at separate times, you could both 0:11:34.385 --> 0:11:36.065 get it. I've never thought of that, maybe I won't 0:11:36.065 --> 0:11:38.905 take anyone ever again. Now back to love bit longer. 0:11:39.105 --> 0:11:40.945 How do you source your items? You said you had 0:11:40.945 --> 0:11:44.145 some clients from past lives, but four years on, where 0:11:44.145 --> 0:11:47.065 do your clients come from and where you know, how 0:11:47.065 --> 0:11:49.265 do they bring their clothes to you? And what's the 0:11:49.345 --> 0:11:51.185 kind of you know, the general vibe. 0:11:51.345 --> 0:11:55.385 Well, Julia has amazing clients that she acquired in scam 0:11:55.385 --> 0:11:56.425 the theater in South Era. 0:11:56.705 --> 0:11:57.585 It's really fun. 0:11:57.665 --> 0:12:01.305 We have people drive with groups full of brand new 0:12:01.345 --> 0:12:02.345 clothes with tags. 0:12:02.345 --> 0:12:05.665 They come across the yarra. It's so fun. That's the favorite. 0:12:06.025 --> 0:12:07.505 Do you think that's the best part of our job 0:12:07.545 --> 0:12:09.785 when livery arrives. 0:12:10.145 --> 0:12:11.745 I think the best part is when they invite you 0:12:11.825 --> 0:12:13.465 to their home and you get to go to their 0:12:13.545 --> 0:12:16.905 wardrobes and you stand there and they're like what about this? 0:12:17.105 --> 0:12:20.025 You're yes, no, yes, not. That is fun. 0:12:20.265 --> 0:12:23.105 Wow. And so it's just people that love fashion but 0:12:23.145 --> 0:12:24.705 also don't want to hold onto things they're not going 0:12:24.745 --> 0:12:26.945 to wear or would rather than be loved by someone else. 0:12:27.305 --> 0:12:29.865 Correct hundred really then yeah, absolutely. 0:12:29.905 --> 0:12:33.025 And we also have people that contact us via a 0:12:33.145 --> 0:12:35.385 DM and just say listen, I've got these clothes. They 0:12:35.425 --> 0:12:38.265 send photos, we send them out consignment Guide and it 0:12:38.345 --> 0:12:41.145 goes from there. It's not just clients that we know, 0:12:41.225 --> 0:12:44.585 it's the majority, but we're always open to people with 0:12:44.625 --> 0:12:46.345 beautiful clothing that they want to sell. 0:12:46.505 --> 0:12:47.945 I love that, and I love that you have a website. 0:12:47.985 --> 0:12:49.745 There's nothing worse than when you follow an account or 0:12:49.745 --> 0:12:52.225 something and it's only in a specific location in another state. 0:12:52.305 --> 0:12:54.305 So thank you for also having it online store. 0:12:54.425 --> 0:12:54.585 Now. 0:12:54.625 --> 0:12:56.665 One thing I do hear from people that want to 0:12:56.665 --> 0:12:59.065 do pre loved or not sure quite how to get 0:12:59.105 --> 0:13:02.465 into it, more of those unique pieces, not so much classics, 0:13:02.505 --> 0:13:03.945 but then they feel like they then have to go 0:13:03.985 --> 0:13:06.585 buy a whole outfit to go around it, which kind 0:13:06.585 --> 0:13:09.545 of defeats the purpose. So say we've found a beautiful, unique, 0:13:09.785 --> 0:13:11.705 you loved item, what do we do when we get 0:13:11.745 --> 0:13:13.145 at home? How do we make it work with our 0:13:13.145 --> 0:13:14.105 current wardrobe? 0:13:14.265 --> 0:13:16.505 I mean, a great accessory always looks good with a 0:13:16.505 --> 0:13:18.705 pair of jeans, a white tshir and blazer. I mean, 0:13:18.745 --> 0:13:21.465 I don't think you need to buy a whole new outfit. 0:13:21.505 --> 0:13:23.985 I'm pretty sure you'd have it in your wardrobe. Yeah, 0:13:24.065 --> 0:13:27.025 I agree. I think Julia is correct, Like often you 0:13:27.025 --> 0:13:27.705 can buy. 0:13:27.585 --> 0:13:30.625 That one item that is just missing from a fabulous 0:13:30.665 --> 0:13:33.825 outfit which you already have. Yes, so don't be disheartened 0:13:33.905 --> 0:13:36.065 if you know, you buy a sparkly top and it's 0:13:36.105 --> 0:13:38.065 fabulous and you think, oh no, I don't have the 0:13:38.105 --> 0:13:40.585 match in pand like, go home, take your time, look 0:13:40.625 --> 0:13:42.265 through your wardrobe and I get you have it. 0:13:42.465 --> 0:13:44.985 Yeah, and it's probably if it's so unique and fabulous, 0:13:44.985 --> 0:13:47.665 You're right. It will look great paired back with basics. 0:13:47.665 --> 0:13:50.505 It doesn't need anything new, and that's going to buy 0:13:50.545 --> 0:13:51.225 for its attention. 0:13:51.625 --> 0:13:54.065 We also offer styling sessions that love it longer, so 0:13:54.145 --> 0:13:56.345 if you know, if anyone wants to come in and 0:13:56.585 --> 0:13:59.865 ask us for advice, we give that. And we love 0:13:59.905 --> 0:14:00.905 that part of the job too. 0:14:01.145 --> 0:14:04.385 That's so handy. I try when I'm thrifting to think 0:14:04.465 --> 0:14:06.305 how many ways can I wear this? But you're right, 0:14:06.385 --> 0:14:09.065 that whole excitement of the one item and maybe the 0:14:09.105 --> 0:14:11.265 price tags sometimes takes over and you're like, oh, work 0:14:11.305 --> 0:14:13.865 it up later, So maybe way up the cost. And 0:14:13.865 --> 0:14:16.265 if it's a pricey second love item, then make sure 0:14:16.305 --> 0:14:18.065 you think about how many times you can wear it 0:14:18.185 --> 0:14:19.065 or what you can wear it with. 0:14:19.545 --> 0:14:21.905 Correct. Yeah, agree anything. 0:14:21.665 --> 0:14:23.625 Not to buy? I mean, I know love It Longer 0:14:23.665 --> 0:14:26.905 doesn't sell underwear, for example, secondhand, but like what's the 0:14:26.945 --> 0:14:29.105 best stuff to buy secondhand and the stuff that's not 0:14:29.145 --> 0:14:31.785 as reliable, Like I think shoes and bags are great 0:14:31.825 --> 0:14:34.105 secondhand because they're kind of more durable. What are your 0:14:34.145 --> 0:14:36.825 thoughts or what do you see sell and come through 0:14:36.865 --> 0:14:38.105 the store the most. 0:14:38.305 --> 0:14:41.825 You know, what's underrated with pre Loved is gene I 0:14:42.025 --> 0:14:45.585 find by denim that's worn because they've done the hard 0:14:45.625 --> 0:14:49.105 work for you and they're comfortable. People look over denim 0:14:49.145 --> 0:14:49.465 a lot. 0:14:49.505 --> 0:14:52.345 In pre Loved, we get a goldie, we get beautiful, 0:14:52.385 --> 0:14:55.545 beautiful brands, and I think if you can find a 0:14:55.625 --> 0:14:58.505 great denim gene that's been lived in, you should really 0:14:58.545 --> 0:15:00.305 get it because they always look great. 0:15:00.625 --> 0:15:04.145 So I've bought a pair of fantastic levis from Love 0:15:04.145 --> 0:15:07.105 It Longer, and I'm obsessed with them because the lady 0:15:07.105 --> 0:15:08.265 had really warn them in for me. 0:15:08.585 --> 0:15:11.305 You know what's not easy to sell high heel. 0:15:12.585 --> 0:15:18.025 Over everything changed and it's really hard to sell high heels. 0:15:18.025 --> 0:15:19.705 We don't wear the march as. We don't. 0:15:19.825 --> 0:15:21.745 I was going to say the one joy of Lockdown 0:15:21.825 --> 0:15:23.785 is that I feel like we all fell in love 0:15:23.785 --> 0:15:27.425 with flats and then designs and styles became more chic 0:15:27.505 --> 0:15:29.745 and varied in flats. But yeah, you're right, if you've 0:15:29.745 --> 0:15:31.505 got a fabulous pair of heels. It's only if I'm 0:15:31.505 --> 0:15:33.745 going to a black tie ball really that i'd wear 0:15:33.745 --> 0:15:34.305 a high heel. 0:15:34.585 --> 0:15:38.825 And you know what else, small sizes, yes, don't sell well. 0:15:39.025 --> 0:15:39.745 They don't want. 0:15:40.545 --> 0:15:44.385 Bigger because even if you are small, you like oversized generally. 0:15:44.625 --> 0:15:46.705 So yeah, no one's buying. 0:15:46.665 --> 0:15:52.105 Four sixes, even eights, like our most popular sizes. 0:15:51.625 --> 0:15:54.785 Fourteen, which is fantastic to hear because so often, you know, 0:15:54.825 --> 0:15:56.545 we did a thrifting episode a little while ago and 0:15:56.585 --> 0:15:58.145 so many people said, oh, but you know, I'm not 0:15:58.185 --> 0:16:01.545 straight sized, and I think it's again maybe a misconception 0:16:01.905 --> 0:16:03.985 or that you do have to go digging with secondhand, 0:16:04.025 --> 0:16:06.665 But there is other sizes out there. It's just that 0:16:06.745 --> 0:16:08.745 you can't go out that day going I want to 0:16:08.745 --> 0:16:11.345 find cropped red pants in my size. That's not how 0:16:11.385 --> 0:16:14.025 second hand works. But there is definitely a very diverse 0:16:14.145 --> 0:16:15.945 size range, and it's good to hear that it's selling. 0:16:15.985 --> 0:16:19.505 It sells out actually, and because our clients are women 0:16:19.945 --> 0:16:25.185 in their forties fifties, week amazing product in wonderful sizes 0:16:25.305 --> 0:16:28.385 When I say wonderful, I mean ten, twelve, fourteen, that's 0:16:28.425 --> 0:16:28.985 what sells. 0:16:29.065 --> 0:16:30.225 Yeah, I agree. 0:16:30.825 --> 0:16:33.425 Anything else you want listeners to know before we get 0:16:33.425 --> 0:16:38.345 into boogie budget about circular fashion, any suggestions and where 0:16:38.385 --> 0:16:39.545 you think this industry is going. 0:16:40.145 --> 0:16:42.705 Were you just recently we went to Japan. 0:16:43.025 --> 0:16:46.265 We went it was just myself, my sister, mom and dad, 0:16:46.345 --> 0:16:48.865 left the kids' husbands at home whatever. Anyway, it was 0:16:48.905 --> 0:16:52.625 just an eye opening experience because pre Loved is so 0:16:52.785 --> 0:16:53.865 big in Japan. 0:16:53.985 --> 0:16:56.345 Have you been, Lee, I've been to Japan, but not 0:16:56.425 --> 0:16:58.265 to go pre Love shopping. But Grace got back a 0:16:58.305 --> 0:17:00.505 little while ago, and while I was away, she said, 0:17:00.585 --> 0:17:02.505 Lee Campbell, she sent me all these photos. She's like, 0:17:02.545 --> 0:17:05.025 this whole row of stores is just for trench coats. 0:17:05.385 --> 0:17:08.425 And I was like, Grace put me on FaceTime, so 0:17:08.585 --> 0:17:11.385 I definitely want to. But yeah, it's so huge there. 0:17:11.945 --> 0:17:14.985 Oh it's massive. And that was really eye opening for 0:17:15.065 --> 0:17:18.105 us because it is not going anywhere, like we are 0:17:18.145 --> 0:17:21.105 on the edge and it is going to do. Every 0:17:21.225 --> 0:17:25.505 third shop in Shibuya is pre Love with security guards. 0:17:25.545 --> 0:17:28.465 It's an experience like this is the way the world 0:17:28.585 --> 0:17:31.265 is moving, and we're really excited that we're in it, 0:17:31.425 --> 0:17:33.945 and that we can be part of the journey because 0:17:33.985 --> 0:17:35.785 I just think it's going to get bigger and bigger. 0:17:35.945 --> 0:17:38.025 I agree, And it's just there's so many benefits, you know, 0:17:38.065 --> 0:17:40.505