1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 3 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 2: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 4 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 2: is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,424 --> 00:00:28,304 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 6 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:31,344 Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and i amm Burnhon and 7 00:00:31,504 --> 00:00:34,984 Speaker 1: on today's show, Yes, we're talking about Deadpool and Wolverine again. 8 00:00:35,184 --> 00:00:38,464 Speaker 1: It has smashed some records. Don't worry, no spoilers if 9 00:00:38,464 --> 00:00:40,784 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. But more importantly than that, we're 10 00:00:40,824 --> 00:00:44,104 Speaker 1: talking about another side story that has erupted around the movie, 11 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:48,144 Speaker 1: and it's a theory behind Blake Lively's terrible fashion sense. 12 00:00:48,424 --> 00:00:50,464 Speaker 1: We're not saying terrible, the world is saying it. So 13 00:00:50,464 --> 00:00:51,344 Speaker 1: we're going to get into that. 14 00:00:52,064 --> 00:00:56,584 Speaker 3: But first Comic Con took place over the weekends. 15 00:00:56,384 --> 00:00:59,024 Speaker 2: Christmas for some of us, Christmas with some of us. 16 00:00:59,104 --> 00:01:00,904 Speaker 3: So if you don't want to know what comic con is, 17 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:04,424 Speaker 3: it's kind of where fans of really famous comic books 18 00:01:04,504 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 3: or TV franchises gets together for this massive convention. It 19 00:01:08,184 --> 00:01:11,344 Speaker 3: usually takes place in the US. It's also a place 20 00:01:11,384 --> 00:01:14,704 Speaker 3: where like these big studios like Marvel, DC kind of 21 00:01:14,744 --> 00:01:17,504 Speaker 3: give fans a first look at like new projects they're 22 00:01:17,544 --> 00:01:20,264 Speaker 3: working on, and one of the ones that always happens 23 00:01:20,304 --> 00:01:22,184 Speaker 3: is a Marvel one, and it's always the biggest one, 24 00:01:22,224 --> 00:01:23,424 Speaker 3: Like it's like a theater with like that. 25 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:26,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, build up to them announcing and like all the 26 00:01:26,224 --> 00:01:29,184 Speaker 1: most infamous Marvel announcements in terms of like who's getting 27 00:01:29,184 --> 00:01:31,304 Speaker 1: a solo movie, or whose character is coming back, or 28 00:01:31,304 --> 00:01:33,624 Speaker 1: who's playing a character for the first time, they all 29 00:01:33,624 --> 00:01:36,304 Speaker 1: happen in haholl h at Common Conn at this event 30 00:01:36,344 --> 00:01:38,864 Speaker 1: and become worldwide news. And especially because like we're moving 31 00:01:38,904 --> 00:01:42,264 Speaker 1: into this next phase of Marvel, people were very excited 32 00:01:42,264 --> 00:01:45,304 Speaker 1: in particular for this series of announcements. 33 00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:48,664 Speaker 3: And in this one in particular, their Russo brothers were 34 00:01:48,824 --> 00:01:52,184 Speaker 3: announcing the new Avengers film. So the Russo brothers are 35 00:01:52,184 --> 00:01:54,584 Speaker 3: directors and they did all the big Marvel movies, like 36 00:01:54,584 --> 00:01:56,304 Speaker 3: a lot of the Avengers and stuff like that, so 37 00:01:56,304 --> 00:01:59,224 Speaker 3: everyone's obsessed with them. And they were introducing the Avengers 38 00:01:59,344 --> 00:02:01,584 Speaker 3: as well as one of the villains of the Avengers films, 39 00:02:01,584 --> 00:02:05,384 Speaker 3: which is Doctor Doom. And the way they introduced to 40 00:02:05,584 --> 00:02:07,984 Speaker 3: Dr Doom was is that all these men, like I 41 00:02:07,984 --> 00:02:09,904 Speaker 3: think there was about twenty of them, like walked on 42 00:02:09,984 --> 00:02:13,304 Speaker 3: stage in like these gold cloaks with this mask on, 43 00:02:13,544 --> 00:02:15,864 Speaker 3: and they were they were all lined up and then 44 00:02:15,864 --> 00:02:17,704 Speaker 3: there were one man in the middle was actually wearing 45 00:02:17,704 --> 00:02:20,704 Speaker 3: a green cloak, so he was a bit special and 46 00:02:20,744 --> 00:02:22,984 Speaker 3: they like announced and this is doctor Doom. And the 47 00:02:22,984 --> 00:02:26,104 Speaker 3: green cloak guy took off his mask and it was 48 00:02:26,744 --> 00:02:27,744 Speaker 3: Robert Downey Jr. 49 00:02:28,304 --> 00:02:34,664 Speaker 4: As proof of the unimaginable possibilities in the Marvel Multon universe, 50 00:02:35,824 --> 00:02:40,264 Speaker 4: we give you the one person who could play Victor 51 00:02:40,824 --> 00:02:48,784 Speaker 4: von Doom mass. 52 00:02:52,184 --> 00:02:53,064 Speaker 5: See you task. 53 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:56,304 Speaker 1: So I didn't watch this live because of the time 54 00:02:56,344 --> 00:02:57,984 Speaker 1: difference and stuff. As soon as I woke up in 55 00:02:58,024 --> 00:02:59,984 Speaker 1: the morning, so I didn't have any spoilers. I clicked 56 00:02:59,984 --> 00:03:02,824 Speaker 1: through to the like official stream to watch the reveals 57 00:03:03,504 --> 00:03:06,144 Speaker 1: and I was like sitting in my bed in the 58 00:03:06,184 --> 00:03:07,824 Speaker 1: morning and I opened my phone and I felt like 59 00:03:07,864 --> 00:03:09,824 Speaker 1: I wanted to scream, but no sound came out. 60 00:03:10,544 --> 00:03:12,104 Speaker 2: I was just like sitting there with my mouth home, 61 00:03:12,224 --> 00:03:14,424 Speaker 2: being like, because you heard rumors, but it's just it's 62 00:03:14,784 --> 00:03:16,744 Speaker 2: I don't know, it was too much, do I sad scream? 63 00:03:16,784 --> 00:03:18,184 Speaker 3: My happy scream? Oh? 64 00:03:18,224 --> 00:03:19,624 Speaker 2: I think I was just in a set of shock 65 00:03:19,664 --> 00:03:19,984 Speaker 2: at first. 66 00:03:20,024 --> 00:03:21,304 Speaker 1: And then I just like put my phone away and 67 00:03:21,344 --> 00:03:22,744 Speaker 1: didn't look at anything else to do with for the 68 00:03:22,824 --> 00:03:24,424 Speaker 1: rest of the day. And I think it was because 69 00:03:24,424 --> 00:03:27,344 Speaker 1: I just wasn't emotionally equipped to even sort of think 70 00:03:27,424 --> 00:03:29,504 Speaker 1: about it, or it's like my soul left my body. 71 00:03:29,544 --> 00:03:31,424 Speaker 1: I'm a big Marble fan, but the more I thought 72 00:03:31,424 --> 00:03:34,264 Speaker 1: about it, the more I was, like, I hate So. 73 00:03:34,304 --> 00:03:37,104 Speaker 3: If you don't know what we're talking about. The reason 74 00:03:37,144 --> 00:03:38,664 Speaker 3: why this is such a big deal that it was 75 00:03:38,744 --> 00:03:42,624 Speaker 3: Rubbert Danney Junius because Robert Dodanney Junior famously played Iron Man, 76 00:03:42,864 --> 00:03:44,744 Speaker 3: and the reason that role was so famous was because 77 00:03:44,744 --> 00:03:46,744 Speaker 3: I guess this was his big comeback after being in 78 00:03:46,824 --> 00:03:48,224 Speaker 3: rehab and he. 79 00:03:48,384 --> 00:03:50,304 Speaker 2: Kicked off the whole NCU in a huge way. 80 00:03:50,384 --> 00:03:53,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the catalyst of like it becoming 81 00:03:53,104 --> 00:03:55,504 Speaker 3: a massive thing. And he talks like publicly about how 82 00:03:55,584 --> 00:03:57,864 Speaker 3: much he loved that character, how that character. 83 00:03:57,584 --> 00:03:59,624 Speaker 1: Chose him, not the other way around, and because of 84 00:03:59,664 --> 00:04:01,744 Speaker 1: all his like arrests and drug use and stuff, like 85 00:04:01,744 --> 00:04:03,704 Speaker 1: we were just talking about Friday's episode about how he 86 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:05,704 Speaker 1: was the big wrongcom leading man in Hollywood and everyone 87 00:04:05,784 --> 00:04:08,584 Speaker 1: was obsessed with him and then he became uninsurable and 88 00:04:08,624 --> 00:04:10,504 Speaker 1: so it was like this big gamble for Marvel to 89 00:04:10,544 --> 00:04:12,704 Speaker 1: like pin the Cinematic Universe on him and then it 90 00:04:12,744 --> 00:04:15,384 Speaker 1: became the highest grossing franchise all and it worked. 91 00:04:15,464 --> 00:04:18,104 Speaker 3: And a bit of spoilers if you haven't watched Avengers Endgame, 92 00:04:18,184 --> 00:04:19,664 Speaker 3: iron Man actually dies and game. 93 00:04:20,024 --> 00:04:22,304 Speaker 2: I've never cried so much in the cinema before. 94 00:04:22,584 --> 00:04:26,464 Speaker 3: And just because with this, like big cinematic franchises, the 95 00:04:26,584 --> 00:04:29,544 Speaker 3: person who's acting as a superhero, it really becomes their thing, 96 00:04:29,664 --> 00:04:32,784 Speaker 3: like they can only be that superhero for the entire franchise. 97 00:04:33,104 --> 00:04:35,224 Speaker 3: So the fact that they've killed off iron Man but 98 00:04:35,384 --> 00:04:39,144 Speaker 3: bringing back Robert Danny Jr. As Doctor Doom, I think 99 00:04:39,264 --> 00:04:42,944 Speaker 3: they might be playing into the whole like alternate universe 100 00:04:42,944 --> 00:04:45,504 Speaker 3: thing where they have Robert Danny Jr. As like a 101 00:04:45,584 --> 00:04:48,584 Speaker 3: villain in an alternate universe who comes and I don't 102 00:04:48,624 --> 00:04:49,784 Speaker 3: know is the villain of the ave. 103 00:04:50,224 --> 00:04:52,344 Speaker 1: Just love watching Robert Danney Jr. When he said he 104 00:04:52,344 --> 00:04:54,544 Speaker 1: would never do it again, Like I believed him, and 105 00:04:54,624 --> 00:04:57,584 Speaker 1: I almost think it like this just it's half fan 106 00:04:57,704 --> 00:05:00,144 Speaker 1: service and it half kind of cheapens everything for me 107 00:05:00,224 --> 00:05:04,624 Speaker 1: because it's like he had this momentous, incredible death scene 108 00:05:04,624 --> 00:05:07,424 Speaker 1: that was decades in the making, and it felt like 109 00:05:07,464 --> 00:05:09,504 Speaker 1: that characters kind of close and even though like it's 110 00:05:09,504 --> 00:05:11,264 Speaker 1: so funny they make a or can the new Deadpool 111 00:05:11,264 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 1: movie about how Marvel's been really bad after Endgame, which 112 00:05:13,904 --> 00:05:16,904 Speaker 1: I quite agree with. And now this almost feels like 113 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:19,504 Speaker 1: kind of like a cheap thing of like half bringing 114 00:05:19,544 --> 00:05:21,704 Speaker 1: him back, but it's obviously not him, but you like 115 00:05:21,704 --> 00:05:22,224 Speaker 1: seeing him. 116 00:05:22,504 --> 00:05:25,864 Speaker 3: Especially after Deadpool bringing Wolverine back like the same thing. 117 00:05:25,904 --> 00:05:27,624 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I'm really I think they have to 118 00:05:27,664 --> 00:05:29,104 Speaker 3: do it really well. There's no other way. 119 00:05:29,344 --> 00:05:30,624 Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it turns out. But I'm 120 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,144 Speaker 1: quite excited for this next phase of Marvel, especially because 121 00:05:33,144 --> 00:05:36,224 Speaker 1: there's so many incredible actresses in this next phase of Marvels. 122 00:05:36,264 --> 00:05:40,104 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what they do. I want 123 00:05:40,144 --> 00:05:41,304 Speaker 1: to talk about what's haunting you? 124 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:43,704 Speaker 3: Or should we wait for a third act flashback? 125 00:05:44,384 --> 00:05:45,304 Speaker 4: Go fuck yourself? 126 00:05:50,144 --> 00:05:56,024 Speaker 2: That is, Stu. I don't know anything about saving World Muster, 127 00:05:56,784 --> 00:05:57,704 Speaker 2: but you do. 128 00:06:00,344 --> 00:06:04,584 Speaker 4: Trust me, kid, I'm no here. You were an X man. 129 00:06:05,504 --> 00:06:07,184 Speaker 3: N youre the X man. 130 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:12,584 Speaker 2: I I'm soaking that right now. 131 00:06:13,864 --> 00:06:16,424 Speaker 3: I've got some great newsphere. Okay, I've got some stats 132 00:06:16,504 --> 00:06:20,384 Speaker 3: because we're a maths podcast. So Deadpool and Wolverine have 133 00:06:20,544 --> 00:06:25,104 Speaker 3: collected two hundred and five million dollars in its opening weekend, 134 00:06:25,544 --> 00:06:28,584 Speaker 3: making it the eighth best debut of all time. 135 00:06:29,144 --> 00:06:31,624 Speaker 1: Isn't that insane when you think about the huge build 136 00:06:31,704 --> 00:06:33,584 Speaker 1: up to this movie. I know that movies have been 137 00:06:33,624 --> 00:06:35,184 Speaker 1: faltering a lot of the box office, and there's a 138 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:37,384 Speaker 1: lot of movies that have had a huge amount of 139 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,664 Speaker 1: hype and star power around them who have just failed 140 00:06:39,704 --> 00:06:42,064 Speaker 1: to kind of get people actually into the cinema. But 141 00:06:42,104 --> 00:06:44,184 Speaker 1: I feel like with the amount of hype around this 142 00:06:44,224 --> 00:06:47,744 Speaker 1: one and the joint force of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh 143 00:06:47,824 --> 00:06:49,824 Speaker 1: Jackman on the press two were together, it kind of 144 00:06:49,864 --> 00:06:51,264 Speaker 1: felt like it was going to get people in. 145 00:06:51,464 --> 00:06:53,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have been a bit disappointed if it 146 00:06:53,264 --> 00:06:55,944 Speaker 3: wasn't big. But apparently only nine movies all together in 147 00:06:56,064 --> 00:06:58,744 Speaker 3: history have made it over to two hundred million mark. 148 00:06:58,824 --> 00:07:01,344 Speaker 3: That very impressive. It also has now set the record 149 00:07:01,424 --> 00:07:04,184 Speaker 3: for being the biggest R rated opening this weekend. The 150 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:07,184 Speaker 3: last film that held the record was the first Deadpool. 151 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:07,784 Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen. 152 00:07:07,904 --> 00:07:10,704 Speaker 1: Especially because it's this idea that comes not just from 153 00:07:10,704 --> 00:07:13,064 Speaker 1: the publicity team around this movie, but just from I 154 00:07:13,104 --> 00:07:15,424 Speaker 1: guess like how media views this movie in general is 155 00:07:15,424 --> 00:07:17,424 Speaker 1: that it's not seen as a movie for women and 156 00:07:17,424 --> 00:07:19,544 Speaker 1: that oh, women will get dragged on by their boyfriends, 157 00:07:19,584 --> 00:07:21,144 Speaker 1: and they were. I mean, I know ours was a 158 00:07:21,144 --> 00:07:23,624 Speaker 1: press screening, but there was so many women in there, 159 00:07:23,664 --> 00:07:25,784 Speaker 1: and so many women who I follow have been like 160 00:07:25,864 --> 00:07:28,024 Speaker 1: dming me about it or like people have been sharing 161 00:07:28,024 --> 00:07:30,184 Speaker 1: photos of them going, and it's like, you can't cut 162 00:07:30,224 --> 00:07:32,664 Speaker 1: out half the audience and expected to put those numbers up, 163 00:07:32,664 --> 00:07:34,224 Speaker 1: like men and women are both going to see it. 164 00:07:34,424 --> 00:07:36,504 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like Taylor Swift and dorsed it. 165 00:07:36,584 --> 00:07:38,784 Speaker 1: That was funny. Everyone's been waiting for her to jump 166 00:07:38,784 --> 00:07:40,184 Speaker 1: into the presidential debate and. 167 00:07:40,144 --> 00:07:41,744 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't care about the future of the country, 168 00:07:41,744 --> 00:07:42,824 Speaker 3: but everyone go watch. 169 00:07:42,624 --> 00:07:44,744 Speaker 1: Deadpool and then like, I can't believe she endorsed Deadpool 170 00:07:44,784 --> 00:07:46,584 Speaker 1: before she endorsed Karma Harris, and I was like, I 171 00:07:46,584 --> 00:07:49,264 Speaker 1: think this is a slightly separate thing because she would 172 00:07:49,264 --> 00:07:51,344 Speaker 1: have been planning that for months and months and months. 173 00:07:51,344 --> 00:07:54,304 Speaker 1: These are her two best friends. She's the godmother of 174 00:07:54,304 --> 00:07:56,584 Speaker 1: their four children. Do you see that Ryan Reynolds announced 175 00:07:56,624 --> 00:07:58,824 Speaker 1: their babies name that they've been keeping secret for months 176 00:07:58,824 --> 00:07:59,784 Speaker 1: of the Deadpool premiere. 177 00:07:59,904 --> 00:08:03,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, little boy called Olan Olan. That's cute. 178 00:08:03,424 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 1: Though their names is their kid names are so funny 179 00:08:05,424 --> 00:08:07,504 Speaker 1: because they don't kind of go to it's like James, 180 00:08:07,584 --> 00:08:08,944 Speaker 1: Betty and and Olan. 181 00:08:09,144 --> 00:08:12,184 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm only follow their names from Taylors' sum. 182 00:08:12,224 --> 00:08:15,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't ophos all in a new banger coming soon, 183 00:08:15,384 --> 00:08:15,904 Speaker 1: I'm sure. 184 00:08:16,224 --> 00:08:19,544 Speaker 3: My favorite thing about this particular film, which I found 185 00:08:19,544 --> 00:08:22,104 Speaker 3: was a bit different from Deadpool one and two, was 186 00:08:22,104 --> 00:08:24,864 Speaker 3: that all three films really broke down the fourth wall 187 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:28,224 Speaker 3: when it came to humor and like sarcastic commentary, especially 188 00:08:28,304 --> 00:08:33,144 Speaker 3: towards like publications to production companies, to like actors. But 189 00:08:33,224 --> 00:08:35,784 Speaker 3: this one when that extra step further, which is similar 190 00:08:35,824 --> 00:08:38,184 Speaker 3: to what you were saying about how it was appealing 191 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:39,544 Speaker 3: to a lot of women, and I think because it 192 00:08:39,744 --> 00:08:43,464 Speaker 3: also had a lot of pop culture references, like there 193 00:08:43,504 --> 00:08:46,664 Speaker 3: was a comment on Jennifer Garner's and Ben Affleck's relationship, 194 00:08:46,704 --> 00:08:48,984 Speaker 3: there was a comment on like Hugh Jackman's divorce, on 195 00:08:49,064 --> 00:08:52,184 Speaker 3: Ryan reynolds marriage to Blake Lively, And I think it 196 00:08:52,224 --> 00:08:54,344 Speaker 3: was the first time with the first two films there 197 00:08:54,344 --> 00:08:57,144 Speaker 3: were these kind of like inside jokes that you would 198 00:08:57,184 --> 00:08:59,504 Speaker 3: only get if you were part of the superhero franchise 199 00:08:59,544 --> 00:09:00,384 Speaker 3: and you knew about it. 200 00:09:00,544 --> 00:09:01,504 Speaker 2: But with this film you. 201 00:09:01,544 --> 00:09:03,864 Speaker 3: Also had to be across pop culture, which I think 202 00:09:04,024 --> 00:09:05,664 Speaker 3: largely appealed to mostly women. 203 00:09:05,864 --> 00:09:08,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So this is not a spoiler because this 204 00:09:08,064 --> 00:09:10,184 Speaker 1: is like a second in the film. Also, now they've 205 00:09:10,224 --> 00:09:12,504 Speaker 1: all come out and said who's in the movie, so 206 00:09:12,664 --> 00:09:14,744 Speaker 1: these parts are not the spoiler. But yeah, when Jennifer 207 00:09:14,784 --> 00:09:17,304 Speaker 1: Ganna appeared as a Lectra, that's one of those moments 208 00:09:17,344 --> 00:09:19,424 Speaker 1: where I like started screaming and Emily's looking over me 209 00:09:19,464 --> 00:09:20,904 Speaker 1: at the premiere being like, why are you screaming? 210 00:09:20,904 --> 00:09:22,144 Speaker 2: And I was like, I knew she was going to 211 00:09:22,184 --> 00:09:22,624 Speaker 2: come back. 212 00:09:22,864 --> 00:09:24,864 Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh, I'm so sorry Daredevil died 213 00:09:24,864 --> 00:09:27,264 Speaker 1: because that's who ban Athlete played, and they met playing 214 00:09:27,304 --> 00:09:29,024 Speaker 1: Electra and Dane till they felt I. 215 00:09:29,024 --> 00:09:30,504 Speaker 3: Think I was like two thousand and three. Yeah, and 216 00:09:30,544 --> 00:09:33,544 Speaker 3: then she goes, that's fine, it's fine. 217 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:35,864 Speaker 1: It's so good because it's such as she never comments 218 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:37,784 Speaker 1: on their divorce or anything, and like, obviously she would 219 00:09:37,824 --> 00:09:39,504 Speaker 1: only say that if they were on good terms, which 220 00:09:39,504 --> 00:09:41,584 Speaker 1: they are because it were being photographed together. But I 221 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:42,864 Speaker 1: just thought it was such a nice way for him 222 00:09:42,904 --> 00:09:44,904 Speaker 1: then to be like, oh, ben athletic and she's like, nah, 223 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:45,784 Speaker 1: I don't worry about. 224 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:46,664 Speaker 2: It even here. 225 00:09:46,744 --> 00:09:49,664 Speaker 3: Jackman where you don't see him without his shirt h 226 00:09:49,744 --> 00:09:52,144 Speaker 3: F until like the very end and Ryan Reynolds makes 227 00:09:52,184 --> 00:09:54,224 Speaker 3: a comment about he really lost himselves into the divorce. 228 00:09:54,504 --> 00:09:57,664 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, which again something that they like he never 229 00:09:57,664 --> 00:09:58,744 Speaker 1: really talks about in public. 230 00:09:58,744 --> 00:10:00,904 Speaker 2: But it's just like a funny little moment in the movie. 231 00:10:01,024 --> 00:10:03,024 Speaker 3: And the best thing about all the movies is that 232 00:10:03,104 --> 00:10:05,304 Speaker 3: it's only Ryan Reynolds actor who does this, Like all 233 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:07,064 Speaker 3: the other characters pretend they're still in the movie. 234 00:10:07,104 --> 00:10:07,304 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:10:07,344 --> 00:10:07,624 Speaker 2: Yeah. 236 00:10:07,704 --> 00:10:09,624 Speaker 1: They almost like pulled a Sex in the City trick 237 00:10:09,624 --> 00:10:12,984 Speaker 1: where they plan a whole bunch of fake stories and 238 00:10:13,024 --> 00:10:16,224 Speaker 1: cameos and scripts around which Sex and City is so 239 00:10:16,344 --> 00:10:18,624 Speaker 1: notorious for doing. Even this week, they're out in the street. 240 00:10:18,624 --> 00:10:20,824 Speaker 1: They're definitely filming a fake funeral thing. And if it's like, 241 00:10:20,824 --> 00:10:23,744 Speaker 1: oh my god, Steve's gonna die, it's like, no, Steep, guys, 242 00:10:23,744 --> 00:10:24,024 Speaker 1: have we. 243 00:10:23,984 --> 00:10:26,864 Speaker 2: Not learned It's been twenty years all the fust kill bill. 244 00:10:28,664 --> 00:10:30,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with this one they couldn't say a lot, 245 00:10:30,584 --> 00:10:32,824 Speaker 1: but they were just doing it off their chemistry. And 246 00:10:32,904 --> 00:10:35,504 Speaker 1: also like bringing Blake Lively, who everyone would know is 247 00:10:35,544 --> 00:10:37,544 Speaker 1: in the movie now because she posted on her Insta 248 00:10:37,584 --> 00:10:40,824 Speaker 1: feed and people were furious that she had spoiled the movie, 249 00:10:40,864 --> 00:10:42,744 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, oh maybe, but she doesn't 250 00:10:42,744 --> 00:10:44,344 Speaker 1: take a mask off from the movie, so you don't 251 00:10:44,424 --> 00:10:46,344 Speaker 1: really know it's her. Remember how her name come with 252 00:10:46,344 --> 00:10:46,664 Speaker 1: the ends. 253 00:10:46,664 --> 00:10:48,264 Speaker 2: It came up in the credit and the end credits 254 00:10:48,264 --> 00:10:49,224 Speaker 2: at the end of the movie, and I was like, 255 00:10:49,224 --> 00:10:49,624 Speaker 2: I knew it. 256 00:10:49,944 --> 00:10:52,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels very Gameless Thrones like it was either 257 00:10:53,544 --> 00:10:56,504 Speaker 3: you had to expect spoilers like straight after it happened, 258 00:10:56,784 --> 00:10:58,104 Speaker 3: and if you didn't want to boil it, you just 259 00:10:58,144 --> 00:10:58,984 Speaker 3: had to stay off the internet. 260 00:10:59,064 --> 00:10:59,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 261 00:11:00,064 --> 00:11:01,984 Speaker 1: Well, Blake Lively on the press to it is something 262 00:11:02,024 --> 00:11:04,344 Speaker 1: we're going to get into after the break because there's 263 00:11:04,384 --> 00:11:06,504 Speaker 1: something bigger at play here than just some nice red 264 00:11:06,504 --> 00:11:07,224 Speaker 1: carpet outfits. 265 00:11:07,664 --> 00:11:08,064 Speaker 4: Nana. 266 00:11:09,184 --> 00:11:11,784 Speaker 1: So one of the big talking points from the Deadpool premiere, 267 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:14,064 Speaker 1: apart from the fact that there were so many slubs 268 00:11:14,104 --> 00:11:16,424 Speaker 1: that loved Avril Levine having her moment because obviously her 269 00:11:16,464 --> 00:11:19,424 Speaker 1: music's in the film and Madonna because like a Prayer 270 00:11:19,544 --> 00:11:21,264 Speaker 1: is that was used in the promo, but it's such 271 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:23,344 Speaker 1: a big part in the movie, and Ryan Reynold said 272 00:11:23,344 --> 00:11:25,344 Speaker 1: he had to go and visit her personally to request 273 00:11:25,384 --> 00:11:27,464 Speaker 1: the song and she was like, you'll have to explain 274 00:11:27,504 --> 00:11:29,264 Speaker 1: to me what you're using it for, and she finally 275 00:11:29,304 --> 00:11:31,984 Speaker 1: said yes. But one of the biggest talking points from 276 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:35,104 Speaker 1: the premiere was all the photos that were plastered across 277 00:11:35,144 --> 00:11:37,584 Speaker 1: every inch of the Internet the second the premiere started, 278 00:11:37,944 --> 00:11:41,224 Speaker 1: and that was Blake Lively in her custom off the 279 00:11:41,304 --> 00:11:45,664 Speaker 1: shoulder Versachi katsuit, which was in the Ready Morone color 280 00:11:45,704 --> 00:11:48,224 Speaker 1: that's known for Deadpool and also the Lady Deadpool who 281 00:11:48,224 --> 00:11:50,624 Speaker 1: she plays in the movie. And then Gigi had did 282 00:11:50,704 --> 00:11:53,544 Speaker 1: was there too, GIGGI, what are you doing here wearing 283 00:11:53,664 --> 00:11:56,584 Speaker 1: Wolverine yellow? You or Wolverine yellow to the premiere? You 284 00:11:56,624 --> 00:11:57,984 Speaker 1: and Gigi had did the same person. 285 00:11:58,104 --> 00:12:00,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, I basically Gigi had did. But it's funny because 286 00:12:00,864 --> 00:12:06,544 Speaker 3: like gg Jackman went solo, and like Lively and Ryan 287 00:12:06,544 --> 00:12:08,384 Speaker 3: Milds just brought Gigi. He did. 288 00:12:08,784 --> 00:12:11,024 Speaker 1: Well, I guess she's really in there. Circ sad that 289 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,384 Speaker 1: Bradley Creeper wasn't also there walking the red carpet. 290 00:12:13,424 --> 00:12:15,144 Speaker 2: That would have been cute. Little jew I got about it, 291 00:12:15,184 --> 00:12:17,424 Speaker 2: But I wonder if GG is well, she's. 292 00:12:17,264 --> 00:12:19,824 Speaker 1: Obviously really good friends with them, and Blake Lively and 293 00:12:19,824 --> 00:12:22,064 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and that whole group are very into kind 294 00:12:22,064 --> 00:12:24,624 Speaker 1: of like bringing their friends those events and doing a 295 00:12:24,624 --> 00:12:27,584 Speaker 1: lot of promo around their friends because they never have 296 00:12:27,664 --> 00:12:30,144 Speaker 1: to sort of reveal anything too intense, like no one's 297 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:32,384 Speaker 1: asking Breay Lively about her kids, of Gigi had Did's 298 00:12:32,424 --> 00:12:35,424 Speaker 1: walking with her, and Gigi was answering questions on the 299 00:12:35,424 --> 00:12:37,584 Speaker 1: red carpet with her. They had this like double act 300 00:12:37,624 --> 00:12:39,584 Speaker 1: going on where they had it was like the two 301 00:12:39,664 --> 00:12:41,544 Speaker 1: of them versus Hugh and Ryan of who was the 302 00:12:41,544 --> 00:12:43,744 Speaker 1: better jew on the red carpet. And it was good 303 00:12:43,744 --> 00:12:45,504 Speaker 1: because a lot of them have a lot of impersonal 304 00:12:45,624 --> 00:12:47,904 Speaker 1: entanglements that people could ask about in terms of like 305 00:12:48,144 --> 00:12:50,544 Speaker 1: ex's and kids and feuds and things that are happening 306 00:12:50,584 --> 00:12:53,224 Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift, and they were all really careful to 307 00:12:53,264 --> 00:12:55,264 Speaker 1: kind of make it just all about this fake friendship 308 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:57,264 Speaker 1: feud and then they just did like a flawless red 309 00:12:57,304 --> 00:12:59,144 Speaker 1: carpet for you. 310 00:12:59,184 --> 00:13:00,824 Speaker 2: What are you excited to experience today? 311 00:13:00,944 --> 00:13:03,184 Speaker 5: I'm just excited. I'm blake staying, which is like the 312 00:13:03,184 --> 00:13:05,464 Speaker 5: best side of my life. I'm sorry, Ryan, I can, 313 00:13:06,824 --> 00:13:09,824 Speaker 5: but I'm just happy to celebrate friends and I know 314 00:13:09,904 --> 00:13:12,264 Speaker 5: how hard they've worked, and I'm just excited to see 315 00:13:12,264 --> 00:13:16,424 Speaker 5: it like everyone else. She saw my movie early a 316 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:19,224 Speaker 5: few weeks ago and always gives me good feedback and. 317 00:13:19,344 --> 00:13:21,584 Speaker 2: Like helps me so much. So this is such a 318 00:13:21,664 --> 00:13:25,344 Speaker 2: nice friendship moment. Again, there's a big friendship theme here night. 319 00:13:25,504 --> 00:13:26,984 Speaker 3: The theme of the night has been friendship? 320 00:13:27,104 --> 00:13:27,264 Speaker 1: Is it? 321 00:13:27,344 --> 00:13:27,584 Speaker 5: Ryan? 322 00:13:27,624 --> 00:13:28,544 Speaker 2: And you are friends? 323 00:13:29,624 --> 00:13:30,024 Speaker 3: Are you here? 324 00:13:30,024 --> 00:13:30,744 Speaker 2: At Twiller Tea? 325 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:32,824 Speaker 3: I didn't even hear any of the interviews. I was 326 00:13:32,864 --> 00:13:34,744 Speaker 3: just looking at Hugh Jackman and he's just like, look 327 00:13:34,824 --> 00:13:35,904 Speaker 3: like he was just happy. 328 00:13:35,624 --> 00:13:36,104 Speaker 2: To be there. 329 00:13:36,184 --> 00:13:38,184 Speaker 1: There was a lot of chat around Blake Lively's outfit, 330 00:13:38,264 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 1: not just because obviously it was like kind of a 331 00:13:40,224 --> 00:13:43,024 Speaker 1: nod to the film, but afterwards she also and if 332 00:13:43,024 --> 00:13:45,144 Speaker 1: you saw this, she was wearing a blue and red 333 00:13:45,304 --> 00:13:49,584 Speaker 1: mini dress with floral applications over red shoes, like really 334 00:13:49,584 --> 00:13:51,664 Speaker 1: red high heels. Like she looked like a Barbie in 335 00:13:51,704 --> 00:13:54,304 Speaker 1: the best way possible, and like big curly hair and 336 00:13:54,384 --> 00:13:57,264 Speaker 1: jewelry and stuff. Because her movie it ends with us, 337 00:13:57,344 --> 00:13:59,664 Speaker 1: it's coming out soon, and so she said in her 338 00:13:59,704 --> 00:14:02,104 Speaker 1: caption that she was trying to combine Deadpool so like 339 00:14:02,144 --> 00:14:06,064 Speaker 1: the Red with the flowers to promote her movie as well, and. 340 00:14:05,984 --> 00:14:08,344 Speaker 2: It was ant. She's like, we had to cut costs, 341 00:14:08,704 --> 00:14:11,224 Speaker 2: and he's trying to as well, trying to pull them together. 342 00:14:11,344 --> 00:14:13,144 Speaker 1: But what I thought was interesting is I was reading 343 00:14:13,144 --> 00:14:15,064 Speaker 1: through the commentary and also I was watching, like reading 344 00:14:15,064 --> 00:14:17,064 Speaker 1: the commentary on Somar and so many people I follow, 345 00:14:17,144 --> 00:14:20,504 Speaker 1: like different podcasters and writers and stuff, and everyone was 346 00:14:20,544 --> 00:14:22,384 Speaker 1: having this conversation that I've sort of been aware of, 347 00:14:22,424 --> 00:14:24,304 Speaker 1: but it really came out in full force over the weekend, 348 00:14:24,304 --> 00:14:26,104 Speaker 1: I guess, because we saw so many photos of Blake 349 00:14:26,144 --> 00:14:28,784 Speaker 1: Lively out and about in these different outfits that she 350 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:32,784 Speaker 1: had put together herself. Because she very notoriously has never 351 00:14:32,824 --> 00:14:35,384 Speaker 1: had a stylist, and a few people have called. 352 00:14:35,224 --> 00:14:37,264 Speaker 3: Her out on her opinion I think she should. 353 00:14:37,664 --> 00:14:39,264 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing when people are like, I don't 354 00:14:39,304 --> 00:14:41,104 Speaker 1: believe she doesn't have a stylist, she's lying, and I 355 00:14:41,104 --> 00:14:43,304 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think she she's lying. I think 356 00:14:43,344 --> 00:14:45,464 Speaker 1: she puts those outfits together herself. 357 00:14:45,144 --> 00:14:47,304 Speaker 3: Not in the mean way, because those are the outfits 358 00:14:47,384 --> 00:14:49,624 Speaker 3: I'd put together. I had to do it myself. 359 00:14:49,664 --> 00:14:52,064 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I know that she's pulling them herself, 360 00:14:52,064 --> 00:14:54,944 Speaker 1: because I think there's such a huge difference between what 361 00:14:54,984 --> 00:14:57,384 Speaker 1: the fashion community and what the stylist community and all 362 00:14:57,424 --> 00:14:59,664 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff thinks and what the general public 363 00:14:59,744 --> 00:15:02,664 Speaker 1: thinks and what I love is like Blake Lively's fashion, 364 00:15:02,744 --> 00:15:04,584 Speaker 1: and that's what people say of the weekend. They're like, Oh, 365 00:15:04,584 --> 00:15:07,104 Speaker 1: she looks so terrible, but she looks so happy. 366 00:15:07,144 --> 00:15:07,864 Speaker 2: We love her. 367 00:15:08,304 --> 00:15:10,504 Speaker 1: I don't think she looks terrible, but I do think 368 00:15:10,544 --> 00:15:14,064 Speaker 1: that her style has always been someone who she's like 369 00:15:14,064 --> 00:15:15,904 Speaker 1: a kid in a rom com. She's like Jennifer Ghanna 370 00:15:16,224 --> 00:15:18,304 Speaker 1: in Suddenly thirty, where all of a sudden, she's like 371 00:15:18,304 --> 00:15:21,544 Speaker 1: in a thirteen year old's body and she has access 372 00:15:21,624 --> 00:15:24,224 Speaker 1: to all of these clothes and jewelry and shoes and 373 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:26,624 Speaker 1: she can wear whatever she wants. And it's like how 374 00:15:26,704 --> 00:15:29,024 Speaker 1: Jennifer Ganna's character in that movie comes out, and like 375 00:15:29,384 --> 00:15:31,184 Speaker 1: it's all just a bit too much and rong, Like 376 00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:33,544 Speaker 1: she's got too many accessories on, she's got too many 377 00:15:33,544 --> 00:15:37,064 Speaker 1: different clashing makeups. Her shoes are like so high and sparkly. 378 00:15:37,104 --> 00:15:39,304 Speaker 1: She's wearing a sparkly over the top dress. She's got 379 00:15:39,304 --> 00:15:42,104 Speaker 1: a pink bag. She's like just like a magpie grabbing 380 00:15:42,144 --> 00:15:44,224 Speaker 1: all like, you know, the shiny things or something like that, 381 00:15:44,224 --> 00:15:47,024 Speaker 1: like a Blbert. It's that kind of look. And so 382 00:15:47,464 --> 00:15:49,544 Speaker 1: she when she's at an event, she looks like someone 383 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:52,704 Speaker 1: who's just picked the most pretty princess thing off the 384 00:15:52,784 --> 00:15:54,384 Speaker 1: rack to wear, and I kind of love that for her. 385 00:15:54,424 --> 00:15:56,504 Speaker 3: I also think it would have been way more obvious 386 00:15:56,504 --> 00:15:59,344 Speaker 3: to fashion if she was on a supermodel Yeah. 387 00:15:59,424 --> 00:16:01,344 Speaker 1: I think that's why she kind of gets away with it. 388 00:16:01,344 --> 00:16:03,744 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because whenever she talks about Gossip Girl, 389 00:16:03,744 --> 00:16:08,024 Speaker 1: which she notoriously both loves and is a bit embarrassed about, 390 00:16:08,104 --> 00:16:11,024 Speaker 1: She's always said she's quite embarrassed about her performance on 391 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:13,704 Speaker 1: the show, which I don't know. I thought it was fine, 392 00:16:13,864 --> 00:16:15,384 Speaker 1: was all she say A kid. 393 00:16:15,464 --> 00:16:16,064 Speaker 2: She said she was. 394 00:16:15,984 --> 00:16:18,184 Speaker 1: Playing a caricature of herself, which I kind of get, 395 00:16:18,224 --> 00:16:19,904 Speaker 1: like she's like, I'm not really acting, I'm kind of 396 00:16:19,984 --> 00:16:23,264 Speaker 1: just there. But she's always said she's most proud of 397 00:16:23,344 --> 00:16:25,864 Speaker 1: the fashion and how game changing it was, and I 398 00:16:25,864 --> 00:16:27,224 Speaker 1: guess it was in a way. I guess we don't 399 00:16:27,224 --> 00:16:28,824 Speaker 1: think about it the same of Sex and the City 400 00:16:28,824 --> 00:16:31,384 Speaker 1: as if creating fashion history, But there are so many 401 00:16:31,504 --> 00:16:34,304 Speaker 1: iconic moments in that show. And I think that she 402 00:16:34,344 --> 00:16:36,584 Speaker 1: has always said that she really worked with a stylist team, 403 00:16:36,584 --> 00:16:38,104 Speaker 1: and she was a big part of trying to help 404 00:16:38,224 --> 00:16:41,264 Speaker 1: mold Surena Vanderwood's fashion, and so she takes the most 405 00:16:41,264 --> 00:16:42,904 Speaker 1: pride out of that out of so many things she's 406 00:16:42,904 --> 00:16:45,104 Speaker 1: done in her career, which I think is interesting. And 407 00:16:45,144 --> 00:16:47,424 Speaker 1: then she tried to parlay that into her red carpet 408 00:16:47,424 --> 00:16:49,824 Speaker 1: style and it has worked in a way. It's just 409 00:16:49,864 --> 00:16:52,184 Speaker 1: like it's a weird thing where like the general public 410 00:16:52,264 --> 00:16:54,544 Speaker 1: often think that she is like very well dressed, Like 411 00:16:54,624 --> 00:16:56,744 Speaker 1: we always think she's best dress at the metgal. Yeah, 412 00:16:56,864 --> 00:16:59,904 Speaker 1: that's because she wears a dress that is very digestible 413 00:16:59,904 --> 00:17:03,504 Speaker 1: to us, because it's very princessly colorful and glamorous. 414 00:17:02,984 --> 00:17:05,064 Speaker 3: And it's like we can see ourselves in that dress. 415 00:17:05,144 --> 00:17:06,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, that's what if I went to the Mecca. 416 00:17:06,824 --> 00:17:10,344 Speaker 3: That's what actual pieces that look like actual art works 417 00:17:10,664 --> 00:17:12,744 Speaker 3: that's taken like years to make, and it's carved out 418 00:17:12,744 --> 00:17:15,744 Speaker 3: to that person's body. I'm like, that's interesting on you, Yeah, 419 00:17:15,744 --> 00:17:17,464 Speaker 3: But because I can't like translate it to what it 420 00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:19,504 Speaker 3: would look like on me, it's always like is in 421 00:17:19,544 --> 00:17:21,224 Speaker 3: the back of my mind, whereas like Blake, I was 422 00:17:21,224 --> 00:17:23,344 Speaker 3: always like I can picture every single appetue is worn 423 00:17:23,384 --> 00:17:24,024 Speaker 3: throughout history. 424 00:17:24,224 --> 00:17:25,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 425 00:17:25,104 --> 00:17:27,184 Speaker 1: And it's an interesting thing because she's very big on 426 00:17:27,264 --> 00:17:31,344 Speaker 1: theme dressing for her different movie projects. Like she's like 427 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,544 Speaker 1: that kid that you'd work with on a school project 428 00:17:33,584 --> 00:17:35,184 Speaker 1: who comes to school with like, oh, I just had 429 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,544 Speaker 1: five extra parts in case we needed them. She's got 430 00:17:37,544 --> 00:17:40,024 Speaker 1: that energy, which I quite love. So when she was 431 00:17:40,024 --> 00:17:42,784 Speaker 1: doing a simple favor, she of course, because the character 432 00:17:42,864 --> 00:17:45,144 Speaker 1: in that movie is like all about the suits and 433 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:47,304 Speaker 1: that men's were inspired look, and so that's all she 434 00:17:47,344 --> 00:17:49,864 Speaker 1: wore on the press trail and a few journalists were 435 00:17:49,904 --> 00:17:52,824 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, another suit, like you know, in comments 436 00:17:52,824 --> 00:17:54,784 Speaker 1: and stuff, and so she went and directly replied to 437 00:17:54,824 --> 00:17:56,664 Speaker 1: them all and was like, I really like it. I 438 00:17:56,744 --> 00:17:59,144 Speaker 1: put this look together myself and I'm really happy with it. 439 00:17:59,184 --> 00:18:01,104 Speaker 1: And they come back, oh, no, Blake, We're sorry. Of 440 00:18:01,144 --> 00:18:04,464 Speaker 1: course it's fine. And even recently, as she's doing a 441 00:18:04,464 --> 00:18:07,064 Speaker 1: bit of pre promo for It Ends with Us, she's 442 00:18:07,104 --> 00:18:09,744 Speaker 1: been wearing all floral inspired outfits, like she wore those 443 00:18:09,784 --> 00:18:11,864 Speaker 1: genes the other day that are just like a flower 444 00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:15,304 Speaker 1: lace all the way through, because her character is called 445 00:18:15,304 --> 00:18:17,184 Speaker 1: Lilyan owns a floris like a flowers. 446 00:18:17,384 --> 00:18:19,984 Speaker 3: I think I do remember seeing like the photos of 447 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:22,664 Speaker 3: the production when she was like in certain scenes and 448 00:18:22,904 --> 00:18:25,824 Speaker 3: the amount of people who like make comment on her outfits. 449 00:18:25,984 --> 00:18:28,544 Speaker 3: I think it gets really tricky when you have to 450 00:18:28,584 --> 00:18:32,904 Speaker 3: transfer like a book character to in person, because you 451 00:18:33,424 --> 00:18:35,664 Speaker 3: like have to pay respect to the actual character that 452 00:18:35,704 --> 00:18:37,944 Speaker 3: people have made up in their heads and know so well, 453 00:18:38,144 --> 00:18:40,264 Speaker 3: but also try to put your own flare on it. 454 00:18:40,384 --> 00:18:40,984 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 455 00:18:41,264 --> 00:18:43,664 Speaker 3: I think she overdid it with the flowers. 456 00:18:43,824 --> 00:18:46,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, she just takes it once set too far. But 457 00:18:46,144 --> 00:18:47,624 Speaker 2: don't we all, don't we all? 458 00:18:47,824 --> 00:18:49,184 Speaker 3: It's like I work in a bakery and I just 459 00:18:49,184 --> 00:18:50,144 Speaker 3: wear a bagett. 460 00:18:49,904 --> 00:18:52,744 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly every day. It's the kind of vibe. 461 00:18:52,744 --> 00:18:56,104 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I see like a slight parallel between 462 00:18:56,144 --> 00:18:58,424 Speaker 1: her and Taylor Swift, who are obviously two very famous 463 00:18:58,624 --> 00:19:01,024 Speaker 1: photograph women who are best friends. They're obviously a lot 464 00:19:01,024 --> 00:19:03,864 Speaker 1: of time photographs together. And it's funny because we've talked 465 00:19:03,904 --> 00:19:06,744 Speaker 1: so much about Taylor Swift dressing a certain way because 466 00:19:06,784 --> 00:19:10,544 Speaker 1: she wants to seem very relatable so where yes so 467 00:19:10,784 --> 00:19:13,944 Speaker 1: to her main fan group, and so she'll wear pieces 468 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:16,224 Speaker 1: that people can afford, even though she could afford much more, 469 00:19:16,264 --> 00:19:18,544 Speaker 1: and she'll kind of just look very like, oh, yeah, 470 00:19:18,584 --> 00:19:19,624 Speaker 1: I just pop down the road. 471 00:19:19,504 --> 00:19:20,664 Speaker 2: And pick this up off the rack, and. 472 00:19:22,424 --> 00:19:25,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and Blake almost has the same energy. But 473 00:19:25,624 --> 00:19:28,104 Speaker 1: her stuff is so like her look is so unattainable 474 00:19:28,184 --> 00:19:30,424 Speaker 1: because you'll be like, that's a cool to address and 475 00:19:30,424 --> 00:19:35,224 Speaker 1: that's a coat, but it's just the way she puts 476 00:19:35,224 --> 00:19:36,904 Speaker 1: it together. You're like, oh, I would do that too. 477 00:19:37,424 --> 00:19:40,064 Speaker 1: So I don't think that there's a secret plane there 478 00:19:40,424 --> 00:19:43,064 Speaker 1: to make her look a certain way, except that I 479 00:19:43,104 --> 00:19:46,704 Speaker 1: think that she knows it's very marketable and people love her. 480 00:19:46,664 --> 00:19:47,784 Speaker 2: For it, and she's having fun. 481 00:19:47,824 --> 00:19:50,104 Speaker 1: Attainable exactly, and she's having fun with it, and I 482 00:19:50,144 --> 00:19:53,264 Speaker 1: think that comes across and again, like so many of 483 00:19:53,264 --> 00:19:55,424 Speaker 1: those outfits, even we can look at them and be like, 484 00:19:55,784 --> 00:19:58,624 Speaker 1: it's kind of ugly, but she's a tall, thin blonde 485 00:19:59,344 --> 00:20:02,024 Speaker 1: who stands and stands a certain way and knows how 486 00:20:02,064 --> 00:20:04,064 Speaker 1: to walk in them, So it comes across well. And 487 00:20:04,104 --> 00:20:06,784 Speaker 1: because we were introduced to her via Serena Vanderwoods and 488 00:20:07,024 --> 00:20:09,224 Speaker 1: we almost expect her to be wearing that, it's it's 489 00:20:09,264 --> 00:20:12,304 Speaker 1: like the more the more over the top clothes she wears, 490 00:20:12,504 --> 00:20:14,864 Speaker 1: the more press she gets, and the more people talk 491 00:20:14,904 --> 00:20:17,744 Speaker 1: about her in a positive way and don't like focus 492 00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:20,584 Speaker 1: on her personal life, which she's very protectable. So maybe 493 00:20:20,624 --> 00:20:22,704 Speaker 1: that is a secret plane at work that's working quite well. 494 00:20:23,144 --> 00:20:25,064 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 495 00:20:25,064 --> 00:20:26,944 Speaker 3: If you love listening to us, you can always follow 496 00:20:27,024 --> 00:20:31,224 Speaker 3: us on Instagram. 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