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Speaker 1: But Are You Happy? Did you know that one in
Speaker 1: five Australians experience and mental health condition each year? Yet
Speaker 1: too many suffer in silence. Talking about our feelings and
Speaker 1: experiences is one of the most powerful steps towards healing
Speaker 1: and knowing we're not alone. That's why we're introducing I
Speaker 1: Never told you This, a series created to spark honest,
Speaker 1: meaningful conversations that support better mental well being, brought to
Speaker 1: you by Medibank.
Speaker 2: But you didn't try to hide it.
Speaker 3: I did try and hide it. I've been hiding it
Speaker 3: for twenty years.
Speaker 4: Two people, One big reveal. I never told you this
Speaker 4: A simple card game where one question could change everything.
Speaker 4: It starts like what small things brings me joy?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 4: Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever.
Speaker 4: As they finish this seme, I never told you this.
Speaker 3: I've never told you. They never told you this.
Speaker 4: Today, mother and daughter, Casey and Sally will be sitting
Speaker 4: down together.
Speaker 5: I'm feeling a tiny bit nervous.
Speaker 4: Casey has something, bitch you would like to tell her mother.
Speaker 5: This is just like the final thing that I want
Speaker 5: to tell her. So, Mum, how are you feeling.
Speaker 6: Little bit nervous? Not sure what the questions are going
Speaker 6: to be? Confident in your hands?
Speaker 5: All right, I've got these Madibank family roast cards which
Speaker 5: are going to help me today to reveal something to you.
Speaker 3: Well, let's start question number one.
Speaker 5: What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you've ever followed?
Speaker 6: Back in the sixties the very high platform shoes because
Speaker 6: most of my boyfriends ended up being short so tall,
Speaker 6: so I had to cut those out. I'm now going
Speaker 6: to pick up a car. What do you think your
Speaker 6: most useless talent is?
Speaker 5: I can barely dance with my tongue. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you know that about me.
Speaker 2: No, yes, do you want me to do it? Yes?
Speaker 2: That is? That is? That is gross.
Speaker 5: I'm so useless. Okay, So now another one. I've never
Speaker 5: told you this. Oh no, I tell you absolutely everything,
Speaker 5: even rude things, but this I didn't tell you because
Speaker 5: it's not something I'm proud of and it's something I regret.
Speaker 3: So you're not growing up.
Speaker 5: You always told me no drugs, no tattoos.
Speaker 2: Oh I got a tattoo. I've seen it on you.
Speaker 6: Oh must be crazy to think that I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: You didn't know it's here.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I just didn't say anything.
Speaker 3: Anyway. I'm not proud.
Speaker 2: It's small.
Speaker 5: It was warning writing French word underneath my rib ill
Speaker 5: Sophia do lesp.
Speaker 3: It means like you just have to breathe.
Speaker 5: It's just like actually now morphed into looking like something illegible. Anyway,
Speaker 5: So I did it when I was like twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: I'm now forty and I'm in the process of getting
Speaker 5: a remove, which is a very long, painful process.
Speaker 3: But I think you should have just kept it there.
Speaker 5: No, because I don't want my little girl to see
Speaker 5: and get any ideas, and I just want to have
Speaker 5: like a clean body.
Speaker 6: I can't quite remember when I first noticed it, but
Speaker 6: you're either in a bikini getting in the bath, and
Speaker 6: I won't say anything because I just thought, oh, she
Speaker 6: won't want me to know that.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 6: I wasn't angry. I just thought, of course, she got
Speaker 6: a tattoo. I suppose I was a little bit annoyed.
Speaker 6: I thought, of course, she went behind my back and
Speaker 6: got it when I specifically said don't. I didn't discuss
Speaker 6: it with anyone, not even your sister.
Speaker 3: Oh really no, Oh god, that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Maybe deep down I wasn't happy with you for doing
Speaker 6: it typical cases, she had to do something rebellious. But
Speaker 6: it's okay because it's just in a small.
Speaker 3: Way, a big dragon on the back.
Speaker 2: Anyway. But you didn't try to hide it.
Speaker 3: I did try and hide it. I've been hiding it
Speaker 3: for twenty years. There's a lord of hiding.
Speaker 5: And in the shower, I still have to turn every
Speaker 5: time you walk past.
Speaker 3: I have to turn so that you don't say.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that every.
Speaker 3: Single time, because, like i'm you know, we're open.
Speaker 2: So what did you say?
Speaker 5: Say you thought I thought you'd be so upset because
Speaker 5: you really told me no drugs, no tattoos.
Speaker 3: And I listened to the first part, what.
Speaker 2: About the drugs? Yeah, I didn't do the drug Yeah.
Speaker 6: Good, Now you've got your own daughter, Yes you'll understand,
Speaker 6: yes I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The rest of this episode of I never told you this.
Speaker 1: Right after the break.
Speaker 5: It was actually not like me to go and do
Speaker 5: something like this. So that's why I've kept it from you,
Speaker 5: because it was it's a peer pressured into it. But no,
Speaker 5: I haven't been happy with it ever since.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a burden to carry around hide in something.
Speaker 6: But I also knew that whatever you had to tell me,
Speaker 6: and I did say this to you, I will already know. Yeah,
Speaker 6: as I'm a step.
Speaker 3: Ahead, I'm impressed and shocked.
Speaker 6: Even though you think I'm not, I do think you're not.
Speaker 6: But what led to you going to do it?
Speaker 5: You are really a breakup a breakup, and then I
Speaker 5: was just a feeling a bit out of control.
Speaker 2: Did it make you feel better?
Speaker 3: Yeah, temporarily.
Speaker 5: Really did you have any heartbreak when you were younger?
Speaker 6: I had a lot of heartbreak, a lot of tragedies
Speaker 6: in my life. It pushes you to another level so
Speaker 6: that you are forced to investigate and to work out
Speaker 6: how to heal yourself. I think I was able to
Speaker 6: give you a really good advice because of my own experience.
Speaker 5: Remember when you created me, that specially your book. I
Speaker 5: hadn't met anyone, I was unmarried, I didn't have a child,
Speaker 5: going through a really hard time.
Speaker 3: I wish I still had it.
Speaker 5: But you wrote me a book about how to cope,
Speaker 5: and really that was something very special.
Speaker 6: I think I just wrote for three hours straight every
Speaker 6: self help, thought, idea, and I just poured my heart
Speaker 6: out because I was so upset for you that things
Speaker 6: weren't working out.
Speaker 5: It set the part for me to do some really
Speaker 5: amazing things in my life and gave me a lot
Speaker 5: of confidence. So I really appreciate it and brought my
Speaker 5: little Yeah, yes, it's true.
Speaker 6: Your little daughter, my granddaughter, brings me such joy every
Speaker 6: time I see her. She makes my heart explode. She's
Speaker 6: just so feisty and gorgeous, and she's just like worse
Speaker 6: than you were as a child, and.
Speaker 2: You were a very strong willed child.
Speaker 6: I'm very grateful to have had this opportunity learn that
Speaker 6: we do both appreciate each other. It wouldn't matter what
Speaker 6: you told me. I'd still honor you and love you
Speaker 6: and look after you and care for you and write
Speaker 6: more books for you.
Speaker 3: And was going to be born and you as her mom.
Speaker 2: Now you have the life of my life.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I loved you the day you were born,
Speaker 6: and I love you still and always will