1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,385 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,225 --> 00:00:22,665 Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy in love. 5 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:25,145 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel. 6 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:30,585 Speaker 1: Guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you, beauty. I'm 7 00:00:30,665 --> 00:00:33,865 Speaker 1: Kelly mccaren and this is The Fix. Now what is 8 00:00:33,905 --> 00:00:34,305 Speaker 1: the Fix? 9 00:00:34,385 --> 00:00:36,905 Speaker 2: You may ask, Hang on, You've got to introduce me. 10 00:00:37,185 --> 00:00:40,705 Speaker 2: I'm Amy Clark, my co host to The Fix. Yes, 11 00:00:40,865 --> 00:00:44,705 Speaker 2: and guys, this is a brand new segment that basically 12 00:00:44,905 --> 00:00:48,345 Speaker 2: we want to answer your juicy beauty dilemmas. 13 00:00:48,385 --> 00:00:50,385 Speaker 1: Think of it like we your beauty agony. 14 00:00:50,425 --> 00:00:53,665 Speaker 2: Aren't literally the questions that you're too embarrassed to ask 15 00:00:54,505 --> 00:00:58,065 Speaker 2: or you just need some real talk advice, You're going 16 00:00:58,145 --> 00:01:00,385 Speaker 2: to be sending them in, So please let us know 17 00:01:00,425 --> 00:01:02,625 Speaker 2: if you have any questions. But we are so excited 18 00:01:02,625 --> 00:01:03,145 Speaker 2: to get into it. 19 00:01:03,265 --> 00:01:07,665 Speaker 3: Just like your rogue aren't that drops in unannounced to visit. 20 00:01:08,265 --> 00:01:10,225 Speaker 3: You won't ever know when you're going to get an 21 00:01:10,225 --> 00:01:12,545 Speaker 3: episode of the Fix. It's just going to drop into 22 00:01:12,545 --> 00:01:14,185 Speaker 3: your feeds when you least expect it. 23 00:01:14,345 --> 00:01:15,345 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. 24 00:01:15,985 --> 00:01:17,545 Speaker 2: That sounds really exciting. 25 00:01:17,825 --> 00:01:21,265 Speaker 1: But first, our beauty headlines. Boy, do we have news 26 00:01:21,305 --> 00:01:24,225 Speaker 1: for you. I'm Cass and I'm Sophie. Let's get into it. 27 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:28,145 Speaker 4: So, Kim Kardashian has just launched something pretty crazy faux 28 00:01:28,145 --> 00:01:31,225 Speaker 4: hair micro string thongs, and it's basically a Skims branded 29 00:01:31,225 --> 00:01:33,305 Speaker 4: G string with pubic hair on the front of it 30 00:01:33,385 --> 00:01:33,785 Speaker 4: sewn in. 31 00:01:34,025 --> 00:01:34,225 Speaker 1: Yeah. 32 00:01:34,265 --> 00:01:35,825 Speaker 5: I feel like this is the beauty news of the week. 33 00:01:35,825 --> 00:01:37,985 Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to talk about it. I woke up, 34 00:01:38,025 --> 00:01:40,465 Speaker 5: I checked my group chat that was blowing up. All 35 00:01:40,505 --> 00:01:42,585 Speaker 5: of my friends were like, what is going on? Then 36 00:01:42,585 --> 00:01:44,665 Speaker 5: I went to Instagram and the comments were very much 37 00:01:44,705 --> 00:01:47,105 Speaker 5: the same. It was is this an amazing marketing stunt 38 00:01:47,145 --> 00:01:49,785 Speaker 5: again from the Kardashians or is this April falls? 39 00:01:49,905 --> 00:01:50,465 Speaker 1: Is this a joke? 40 00:01:50,745 --> 00:01:54,105 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And it's not a prank unfortunately or unfortunately, 41 00:01:54,105 --> 00:01:55,145 Speaker 4: depending on what you think of it. 42 00:01:55,145 --> 00:01:55,745 Speaker 1: It is legit. 43 00:01:55,865 --> 00:01:58,345 Speaker 4: It's called a faux hem micro string thong, which is 44 00:01:58,345 --> 00:02:01,305 Speaker 4: basically a Skim's G string with faux pubic hare sewn 45 00:02:01,425 --> 00:02:02,145 Speaker 4: onto the front of it. 46 00:02:02,265 --> 00:02:02,825 Speaker 1: So random. 47 00:02:03,025 --> 00:02:05,305 Speaker 5: Yes, when I first saw photos, I couldn't believe it. 48 00:02:05,345 --> 00:02:06,825 Speaker 5: And then I saw that there was a whole range 49 00:02:06,825 --> 00:02:09,905 Speaker 5: and there was different colors and different textures, Whi's just 50 00:02:09,945 --> 00:02:12,225 Speaker 5: kind of cool, but also I just thought insane. And 51 00:02:12,385 --> 00:02:14,225 Speaker 5: you know, Kim's done something like this before where she's 52 00:02:14,265 --> 00:02:16,585 Speaker 5: done the nipple bras, and I get that more, but 53 00:02:16,665 --> 00:02:18,945 Speaker 5: this one just felt a little bit too far. 54 00:02:18,825 --> 00:02:19,385 Speaker 1: Fetched for me. 55 00:02:19,625 --> 00:02:21,705 Speaker 4: It was a big step. The nipple bras were fun. 56 00:02:21,825 --> 00:02:24,345 Speaker 4: I think faux pubic hair is very interesting. But then 57 00:02:24,585 --> 00:02:26,425 Speaker 4: in saying that there has been such a revival of 58 00:02:26,465 --> 00:02:28,505 Speaker 4: pubic hair in public culture, I'm not sure if you've 59 00:02:28,545 --> 00:02:31,225 Speaker 4: seen like all the chat going on TikTok Bush's back, 60 00:02:31,305 --> 00:02:34,025 Speaker 4: so Bush's back and Vogue literally titled a story called 61 00:02:34,025 --> 00:02:36,705 Speaker 4: the Bushes Back in twenty twenty five, which is wild 62 00:02:36,745 --> 00:02:39,785 Speaker 4: and Mason Margela on their runway recently they had like 63 00:02:39,865 --> 00:02:42,985 Speaker 4: models with pubic hair running down the runway I suppose, So, yeah, 64 00:02:42,985 --> 00:02:45,425 Speaker 4: it's all happening. It's a pubic hair department at the moment, 65 00:02:45,745 --> 00:02:48,545 Speaker 4: and so so I'm interested for you and your you know, 66 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:50,625 Speaker 4: your group chat. Do people think this is just a 67 00:02:50,665 --> 00:02:51,465 Speaker 4: marketing thing. 68 00:02:51,665 --> 00:02:53,705 Speaker 5: Well, what I was surprised about is when they said 69 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:55,785 Speaker 5: that it was sold out, does that mean that there 70 00:02:55,825 --> 00:02:57,865 Speaker 5: was only thirty for sale and that's why it's sold out? 71 00:02:57,865 --> 00:03:00,385 Speaker 5: Because I just can't. I can't imagine me or any 72 00:03:00,385 --> 00:03:01,705 Speaker 5: of my friends buying this. 73 00:03:02,065 --> 00:03:04,425 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it is that like Skim's Effects that 74 00:03:04,465 --> 00:03:07,305 Speaker 4: we kind of We've spoken about this before, but everybody's 75 00:03:07,305 --> 00:03:09,985 Speaker 4: obsessed with whatever she has to launch, especially if it 76 00:03:10,065 --> 00:03:12,745 Speaker 4: is like kind of rogue like the nipple bra that 77 00:03:12,785 --> 00:03:15,265 Speaker 4: also sold out. So I think it's just the Skim's 78 00:03:15,265 --> 00:03:16,865 Speaker 4: effect that's selling it out. I feel like they would 79 00:03:16,865 --> 00:03:19,385 Speaker 4: have made more than thirty. But yeah, it's interesting to 80 00:03:19,385 --> 00:03:21,025 Speaker 4: see it fly off the shelves so quickly when it 81 00:03:21,065 --> 00:03:21,985 Speaker 4: is so avant garde. 82 00:03:22,105 --> 00:03:24,025 Speaker 5: Yeah, and either way, they got us on their website 83 00:03:24,025 --> 00:03:24,825 Speaker 5: looking at all the other. 84 00:03:24,665 --> 00:03:26,425 Speaker 1: Products, so exactly. 85 00:03:26,545 --> 00:03:28,665 Speaker 4: I mean, the Kardashians know what they're doing when it 86 00:03:28,665 --> 00:03:30,985 Speaker 4: comes to marketing, and like Mama is like Chris, they 87 00:03:31,105 --> 00:03:33,225 Speaker 4: know what they're doing. So I really think she's taken 88 00:03:33,265 --> 00:03:34,865 Speaker 4: a page out of Chris's book for this one. 89 00:03:35,105 --> 00:03:37,545 Speaker 5: Okay, and speaking of Chris, did you see her new hairstyle? 90 00:03:37,625 --> 00:03:40,065 Speaker 5: She went from her iconic hairstyle that everyone knows her 91 00:03:40,105 --> 00:03:41,425 Speaker 5: from two blonde. 92 00:03:41,585 --> 00:03:43,745 Speaker 4: Literally, I don't know about you, but I didn't absolutely 93 00:03:43,745 --> 00:03:45,865 Speaker 4: double take when I saw the photos. She was at 94 00:03:45,865 --> 00:03:48,145 Speaker 4: an event also with her daughter, Yes, so they both 95 00:03:48,185 --> 00:03:51,945 Speaker 4: had similar cropped Bob's hairfels and Chris's was really super 96 00:03:51,945 --> 00:03:54,425 Speaker 4: blonde and Kim's was black. But it was so interesting 97 00:03:54,465 --> 00:03:56,305 Speaker 4: to me looking at them side by side, I was like, 98 00:03:56,345 --> 00:03:58,105 Speaker 4: these two are literally identical. 99 00:03:58,145 --> 00:03:58,705 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 100 00:03:58,785 --> 00:04:00,985 Speaker 5: Ever since Chris Scott had face lived too, they couldn't 101 00:04:01,025 --> 00:04:02,705 Speaker 5: look more like twins exactly. 102 00:04:02,825 --> 00:04:06,345 Speaker 4: And also interestingly, it was Kim's hairstylist, Chris Appleton, who 103 00:04:06,345 --> 00:04:08,545 Speaker 4: did the look, so I also think you can tell 104 00:04:08,585 --> 00:04:10,865 Speaker 4: that that similar touch was across both of the looks, 105 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:13,065 Speaker 4: which is crazy. But so I don't know if this 106 00:04:13,105 --> 00:04:14,785 Speaker 4: one's here to stay. If I'm honest, she. 107 00:04:14,825 --> 00:04:16,625 Speaker 5: Came out and said blondes have more fun than that 108 00:04:16,625 --> 00:04:18,225 Speaker 5: she was going to try it, But yes, I feel 109 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:20,945 Speaker 5: like she's just grown to suit that hairstyle and we 110 00:04:20,985 --> 00:04:22,425 Speaker 5: can't not know her wearing that hairstyle. 111 00:04:22,505 --> 00:04:24,345 Speaker 4: It's not the first time we've seen a Kardashian do 112 00:04:24,385 --> 00:04:26,225 Speaker 4: a crazy hair transition, but it is the first time 113 00:04:26,225 --> 00:04:26,705 Speaker 4: for Chris. 114 00:04:26,785 --> 00:04:27,025 Speaker 1: Yeah. 115 00:04:27,065 --> 00:04:29,305 Speaker 5: So obviously we've got Kylie always changing her hair, Kim 116 00:04:29,345 --> 00:04:31,385 Speaker 5: always changing her hair, it feels like it's every week. 117 00:04:31,545 --> 00:04:33,625 Speaker 5: But with Chris, Yeah, we've never seen her do a 118 00:04:33,665 --> 00:04:35,665 Speaker 5: b transformation like this. So it's like, is this a 119 00:04:35,705 --> 00:04:37,065 Speaker 5: week or is this here to stay? 120 00:04:37,265 --> 00:04:38,745 Speaker 1: I think it's a weig if I'm honest. 121 00:04:38,785 --> 00:04:41,025 Speaker 4: I mean, I had another cheeky look at her grid 122 00:04:41,025 --> 00:04:43,225 Speaker 4: this morning and she was back to her classic brunette. 123 00:04:43,225 --> 00:04:44,865 Speaker 4: So I feel like a flash in the pan. But 124 00:04:44,865 --> 00:04:46,425 Speaker 4: at least she got to live life as a blonde 125 00:04:46,425 --> 00:04:48,025 Speaker 4: for a day. So if there's a new tool I 126 00:04:48,065 --> 00:04:51,665 Speaker 4: need to talk about desperately, it's Shark's Facial Proglow. Very 127 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:54,785 Speaker 4: fancy name, but it's growing absolutely nuts on TikTok, and 128 00:04:54,825 --> 00:04:56,145 Speaker 4: we need to discuss. 129 00:04:55,945 --> 00:04:56,905 Speaker 1: Okay, and what does it do. 130 00:04:57,425 --> 00:05:00,945 Speaker 4: So basically, it's kind of not a departure for Shark 131 00:05:01,025 --> 00:05:03,825 Speaker 4: considering they're a vacuum brand first, so it's kind of 132 00:05:03,865 --> 00:05:06,345 Speaker 4: similar to a hydrofacial tool in that it vacuums out 133 00:05:06,345 --> 00:05:08,385 Speaker 4: all the gunk from your paws. But it also has 134 00:05:08,425 --> 00:05:10,505 Speaker 4: like a heating and cooling element where WI can deepaf 135 00:05:10,585 --> 00:05:13,585 Speaker 4: and sculpt the skin. So it's being marketed as a 136 00:05:13,665 --> 00:05:16,105 Speaker 4: facial from home, which is interesting considering that we all 137 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:17,825 Speaker 4: did that during COVID for so long. 138 00:05:17,945 --> 00:05:20,945 Speaker 5: Yeah. See that scares me because I don't understand that side, 139 00:05:20,985 --> 00:05:23,065 Speaker 5: and I'd love to go and get facials and relax. 140 00:05:23,345 --> 00:05:25,625 Speaker 5: So the thought of me doing it myself at home 141 00:05:25,945 --> 00:05:28,025 Speaker 5: that scares me because I just wouldn't trust myself to 142 00:05:28,065 --> 00:05:28,985 Speaker 5: do a facial at home. 143 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:30,145 Speaker 1: And when I've seen lots. 144 00:05:29,945 --> 00:05:32,465 Speaker 5: Of influencers online using it, there just seems like there's 145 00:05:32,505 --> 00:05:34,585 Speaker 5: lots of different steps, lots of different parts to it. 146 00:05:34,865 --> 00:05:37,305 Speaker 5: And I keep remembering that I own the Shark Flex 147 00:05:37,305 --> 00:05:39,065 Speaker 5: blow dry tool and it's been a year and I 148 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:41,225 Speaker 5: still don't understand how to properly use that. So I 149 00:05:41,265 --> 00:05:43,265 Speaker 5: can't see this being great for me, but I can 150 00:05:43,305 --> 00:05:44,945 Speaker 5: see it being great for someone like you who is 151 00:05:45,105 --> 00:05:45,985 Speaker 5: very savvy. 152 00:05:46,545 --> 00:05:48,705 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a good point, so because they are 153 00:05:48,785 --> 00:05:50,905 Speaker 4: quite confusing, and there are so many elements to the 154 00:05:50,905 --> 00:05:52,865 Speaker 4: Shark tools, and I think that's what makes the Flex 155 00:05:52,905 --> 00:05:55,545 Speaker 4: style so good but also so confusing, because you really 156 00:05:55,625 --> 00:05:57,225 Speaker 4: have to know like what each thing does and you 157 00:05:57,225 --> 00:05:58,505 Speaker 4: have to like put in the time and effort to 158 00:05:58,505 --> 00:06:00,865 Speaker 4: perfect it. And I would say that the Shark proglow 159 00:06:00,945 --> 00:06:02,825 Speaker 4: is probably going to be the same and that you're 160 00:06:02,825 --> 00:06:04,585 Speaker 4: going to have to spend some time figuring out. 161 00:06:04,985 --> 00:06:06,385 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I don't really. 162 00:06:06,225 --> 00:06:08,065 Speaker 4: Like people touching my face that don't know my skin 163 00:06:08,065 --> 00:06:10,025 Speaker 4: because it's very sensitive and I just know what up 164 00:06:10,065 --> 00:06:10,945 Speaker 4: so I'm keen. 165 00:06:10,785 --> 00:06:11,265 Speaker 1: To try it. 166 00:06:11,505 --> 00:06:14,025 Speaker 4: But yeah, at this stage, I think it is for 167 00:06:14,105 --> 00:06:16,505 Speaker 4: more people that are getting facials regularly and maybe just 168 00:06:16,545 --> 00:06:18,585 Speaker 4: want an easy one from home, rather than just like 169 00:06:18,585 --> 00:06:21,145 Speaker 4: the average skin care kind of person that wants to 170 00:06:21,145 --> 00:06:21,665 Speaker 4: get into it. 171 00:06:21,945 --> 00:06:23,425 Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm assuming it's expensive. 172 00:06:23,425 --> 00:06:25,545 Speaker 1: How much is it? Yeah, it is quite a lot. 173 00:06:25,665 --> 00:06:27,665 Speaker 4: So it's retailing in the US at the moment. It's 174 00:06:27,745 --> 00:06:30,305 Speaker 4: not available in Australia yet. But knowing Shark, I'd say 175 00:06:30,345 --> 00:06:33,225 Speaker 4: it's coming for four hundred dollars USD, which is around 176 00:06:33,225 --> 00:06:35,465 Speaker 4: six hundred AED, so it's going to cost you a 177 00:06:35,505 --> 00:06:36,105 Speaker 4: pretty penny. 178 00:06:36,145 --> 00:06:37,105 Speaker 1: It's going to set you back. 179 00:06:37,505 --> 00:06:39,785 Speaker 4: I think for people that are already doing regular facials, 180 00:06:39,785 --> 00:06:41,145 Speaker 4: I mean they can be like two hundred. 181 00:06:40,865 --> 00:06:42,145 Speaker 1: Bucks, so that seems good. 182 00:06:42,305 --> 00:06:44,265 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually quite a bargain for them. But if 183 00:06:44,305 --> 00:06:46,585 Speaker 4: you're not already doing that, it is a big upfront cost. 184 00:06:46,625 --> 00:06:48,025 Speaker 4: I'd say, I mean, I don't know, what do you think? 185 00:06:48,025 --> 00:06:50,305 Speaker 5: So honestly, right now, I don't think that this is 186 00:06:50,305 --> 00:06:53,265 Speaker 5: something that I will purchase, especially if it's six hundred dollars. 187 00:06:53,305 --> 00:06:55,505 Speaker 5: But that's what I said about an led face mask 188 00:06:55,585 --> 00:06:57,305 Speaker 5: and that is what I want on my blush list 189 00:06:57,385 --> 00:06:59,145 Speaker 5: for Christmas. So I feel like in a year's time, 190 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:01,025 Speaker 5: who knows what will be exactly. 191 00:07:01,065 --> 00:07:02,305 Speaker 4: I think it's one of those tools that's going to 192 00:07:02,305 --> 00:07:04,465 Speaker 4: take some education. It's going to take some time, but 193 00:07:04,785 --> 00:07:06,865 Speaker 4: eventually we might be on the bandwagon. I mean, lots 194 00:07:06,905 --> 00:07:09,105 Speaker 4: of the influences of people in America trying it are 195 00:07:09,145 --> 00:07:11,625 Speaker 4: loving it, so I'm really interested. They're saying it reduces 196 00:07:11,625 --> 00:07:13,945 Speaker 4: poor size in one go, so it might be easier 197 00:07:13,945 --> 00:07:14,425 Speaker 4: than we think. 198 00:07:14,505 --> 00:07:17,185 Speaker 1: So let's watch this space. That's a being a goss 199 00:07:17,225 --> 00:07:17,705 Speaker 1: for this week. 200 00:07:17,745 --> 00:07:20,305 Speaker 4: Guys, let's get back into your dilemmas of Kelly and Amy. 201 00:07:20,665 --> 00:07:24,825 Speaker 3: Okay, so question number one is the friend makeup artist dilemma. 202 00:07:25,545 --> 00:07:30,185 Speaker 3: Now Lauren DM dust asking help, my help. My friend 203 00:07:30,225 --> 00:07:33,185 Speaker 3: is a makeup artist and has done everyone's wedding makeup 204 00:07:33,185 --> 00:07:35,425 Speaker 3: in our group, and I think she's just assuming she'll 205 00:07:35,465 --> 00:07:39,305 Speaker 3: do mine. The thing is, I really want a more subtle, 206 00:07:39,425 --> 00:07:42,545 Speaker 3: natural look for my big day and her style is well, 207 00:07:42,585 --> 00:07:44,745 Speaker 3: it's a lot. How do I let her down gently 208 00:07:44,785 --> 00:07:48,625 Speaker 3: without causing a friendship catastrophe? Is there a way to 209 00:07:48,705 --> 00:07:50,425 Speaker 3: get out of this without hurting her? 210 00:07:50,665 --> 00:07:51,305 Speaker 1: Feelings. 211 00:07:51,665 --> 00:07:57,225 Speaker 2: Gosh, weddings tensions are hard people here, Yeah, they do 212 00:07:57,505 --> 00:08:01,785 Speaker 2: like the worst. Yes, and you can lose friendships over weddings. Thankfully, 213 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:09,345 Speaker 2: I haven't the story for another time not podcast appropriate. 214 00:08:09,785 --> 00:08:12,825 Speaker 2: So basically what I would say, there's a few things 215 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:15,665 Speaker 2: that I need to know from Lauren. But I'm hoping 216 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:18,945 Speaker 2: that her wedding isn't in like two weeks two weeks time, 217 00:08:19,585 --> 00:08:21,865 Speaker 2: or even a few two months time. I'm hoping that 218 00:08:21,905 --> 00:08:23,185 Speaker 2: we're like a year out here. 219 00:08:23,505 --> 00:08:27,705 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe she's just gotten engaged and she's already freaking. 220 00:08:27,345 --> 00:08:27,945 Speaker 1: Out about it. 221 00:08:28,105 --> 00:08:29,705 Speaker 2: Yes, I think straight. 222 00:08:29,425 --> 00:08:31,225 Speaker 3: Off the bat, you need to at least give her 223 00:08:31,225 --> 00:08:34,105 Speaker 3: a try first. I think that's kind of mean. If 224 00:08:34,145 --> 00:08:36,865 Speaker 3: you don't at the very least give your friend a try. 225 00:08:36,785 --> 00:08:40,545 Speaker 2: Well, step one would just be in conversation. Yeah, I 226 00:08:40,585 --> 00:08:43,145 Speaker 2: need to start organizing my wedding makeup. See if the 227 00:08:43,185 --> 00:08:46,425 Speaker 2: friend first is like, oh, I'd love to do it, 228 00:08:46,945 --> 00:08:49,345 Speaker 2: And then if that's then you go, okay, cool, Let's 229 00:08:49,345 --> 00:08:52,305 Speaker 2: start having some trials. Let's start having a play, give 230 00:08:52,345 --> 00:08:55,065 Speaker 2: her a go, like, take lots of reference. I actually 231 00:08:55,065 --> 00:08:57,065 Speaker 2: for my wedding makeup had a friend to do it. 232 00:08:57,105 --> 00:08:59,705 Speaker 2: I know you did your own I had a colleague 233 00:08:59,825 --> 00:09:02,545 Speaker 2: do it, which is actually like an extra layer of like, well, shit, 234 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:05,625 Speaker 2: this could get awkward. Yeah if it's no good. But 235 00:09:06,225 --> 00:09:08,425 Speaker 2: because we lived in the same state and because we 236 00:09:08,425 --> 00:09:10,785 Speaker 2: were friends, the up side is we could do as 237 00:09:10,785 --> 00:09:13,905 Speaker 2: many trials as we wanted, so I reckon we did 238 00:09:14,745 --> 00:09:19,465 Speaker 2: maybe four separate occasions. And also because it was like, okay, 239 00:09:19,505 --> 00:09:21,825 Speaker 2: the first time we did just the full look and 240 00:09:21,905 --> 00:09:24,065 Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I I like. 241 00:09:24,065 --> 00:09:25,425 Speaker 1: This, this is what I don't like. 242 00:09:25,705 --> 00:09:28,665 Speaker 2: Also what I thought I would like changed, So you know, 243 00:09:28,785 --> 00:09:31,785 Speaker 2: I had all these reference shots that I really wanted 244 00:09:31,825 --> 00:09:36,945 Speaker 2: that tiny little eyeliner flick, and I just don't love 245 00:09:36,985 --> 00:09:40,025 Speaker 2: how I look with heavy eye makeup or eyeliner. But 246 00:09:40,105 --> 00:09:42,145 Speaker 2: I thought, I don't know why, but all my reference 247 00:09:42,305 --> 00:09:45,145 Speaker 2: shots had a little wing and all of this. So 248 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:47,585 Speaker 2: we did that. We did for my hens. She came 249 00:09:47,625 --> 00:09:51,585 Speaker 2: and did make up, and we did like another foundation trial. 250 00:09:51,745 --> 00:09:53,665 Speaker 2: So like that's the upside. 251 00:09:53,225 --> 00:09:56,905 Speaker 3: Too, So like it's not going to cost you money, no, exactly, 252 00:09:57,065 --> 00:09:59,065 Speaker 3: take over a bottle of wine and be like, let's 253 00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:00,705 Speaker 3: get ready for this event together, and can you do 254 00:10:00,745 --> 00:10:05,065 Speaker 3: my makeup so we can do a trial? Yeah, I think, yeah, 255 00:10:05,065 --> 00:10:06,825 Speaker 3: I definitely think she needs to give her a go 256 00:10:07,025 --> 00:10:10,145 Speaker 3: at the very least with a couple of trials, because 257 00:10:10,585 --> 00:10:13,185 Speaker 3: she is a makeup artist, so therefore she should be 258 00:10:13,225 --> 00:10:15,825 Speaker 3: able to dial it back a little bit and sort 259 00:10:15,825 --> 00:10:18,265 Speaker 3: of work with the client, which is that self. So 260 00:10:18,345 --> 00:10:21,625 Speaker 3: maybe all of your friends requested a heavier look, or 261 00:10:21,625 --> 00:10:23,465 Speaker 3: maybe a lot of brides that she has worked with 262 00:10:23,585 --> 00:10:24,665 Speaker 3: wanted that heavier look. 263 00:10:24,785 --> 00:10:25,425 Speaker 1: Yeah. 264 00:10:25,465 --> 00:10:28,065 Speaker 3: Also, it's worth noting we've had to discuss this before 265 00:10:28,065 --> 00:10:30,345 Speaker 3: on podcasts. Even if you don't like makeup and don't 266 00:10:30,425 --> 00:10:34,625 Speaker 3: like wearing much makeup, if you want to look outstanding 267 00:10:34,665 --> 00:10:36,345 Speaker 3: in your photos, you need to wear more makeup than 268 00:10:36,345 --> 00:10:36,905 Speaker 3: you usually would. 269 00:10:36,905 --> 00:10:38,225 Speaker 1: Otherwise it just doesn't photograph. 270 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:40,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is something you need to get comfortable 271 00:10:41,025 --> 00:10:44,705 Speaker 2: with exactly. I would also recommend, just in general, is 272 00:10:44,745 --> 00:10:47,425 Speaker 2: whether you've got a few events beforehand, or even if 273 00:10:47,465 --> 00:10:49,505 Speaker 2: you just got a dinner or something like, go and 274 00:10:49,905 --> 00:10:51,905 Speaker 2: get your makeup done at Mecca or like go and 275 00:10:52,425 --> 00:10:55,265 Speaker 2: or just apply more makeup than you would to get 276 00:10:55,385 --> 00:10:57,825 Speaker 2: used to how you look with that much makeup on. 277 00:10:57,985 --> 00:11:01,305 Speaker 2: That is such a good tip because otherwise you're gonna 278 00:11:01,305 --> 00:11:04,225 Speaker 2: look in the mirror and it's like school. I remember 279 00:11:04,225 --> 00:11:07,265 Speaker 2: having this with school formal going and getting my makeup 280 00:11:07,305 --> 00:11:09,025 Speaker 2: done and then looking in the mirror and being like, 281 00:11:09,385 --> 00:11:10,945 Speaker 2: I I've got a mask on. 282 00:11:10,985 --> 00:11:11,545 Speaker 1: What the hell? 283 00:11:11,745 --> 00:11:14,345 Speaker 3: And you feel gross because you feel all the products 284 00:11:14,425 --> 00:11:14,705 Speaker 3: on you. 285 00:11:15,145 --> 00:11:16,745 Speaker 2: You just feel like people are looking at you and 286 00:11:16,785 --> 00:11:19,225 Speaker 2: be like, she's got so much makeup on, but do 287 00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:21,505 Speaker 2: all of that? And then what I would say? So, 288 00:11:21,625 --> 00:11:24,865 Speaker 2: let's say you've done all that. Also, wedding makeup is 289 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:28,905 Speaker 2: so expensive. If you've got a mate who can do 290 00:11:28,985 --> 00:11:33,785 Speaker 2: it for a great discount, take up that offer, because 291 00:11:33,785 --> 00:11:35,625 Speaker 2: there's so many other things that you have to spend 292 00:11:35,665 --> 00:11:39,945 Speaker 2: your money on. Okay, So what happens if she's done 293 00:11:39,945 --> 00:11:45,705 Speaker 2: the trials and the communications just not communicating, it's just 294 00:11:45,745 --> 00:11:46,385 Speaker 2: not working out. 295 00:11:46,745 --> 00:11:49,505 Speaker 3: What would you do in that case? At the end 296 00:11:49,545 --> 00:11:52,345 Speaker 3: of the day, it's her wedding, so of course she 297 00:11:52,385 --> 00:11:55,665 Speaker 3: should have the makeup that she wants. I do think 298 00:11:55,705 --> 00:11:58,025 Speaker 3: that other makeup artists are probably going to do heavier 299 00:11:58,025 --> 00:11:59,905 Speaker 3: makeup too, given that it is your wedding. 300 00:12:00,025 --> 00:12:01,145 Speaker 1: But if you find. 301 00:12:00,865 --> 00:12:02,705 Speaker 3: Someone, you go and do a trial and you absolutely 302 00:12:02,705 --> 00:12:04,185 Speaker 3: love them, then I think that you just need to 303 00:12:04,185 --> 00:12:08,425 Speaker 3: be honest with your friend and just say, hey, love 304 00:12:08,465 --> 00:12:11,225 Speaker 3: you so much. But I'm going to go with this 305 00:12:11,265 --> 00:12:14,345 Speaker 3: person just because it is more suited to my face 306 00:12:14,425 --> 00:12:18,425 Speaker 3: or whatnot. And like, yes, your friend might be hurt, 307 00:12:18,545 --> 00:12:21,145 Speaker 3: but I'm sure she will like it's your wedding, so 308 00:12:21,385 --> 00:12:23,025 Speaker 3: and at least she doesn't have to worry about doing 309 00:12:23,025 --> 00:12:23,425 Speaker 3: anything on. 310 00:12:23,425 --> 00:12:25,905 Speaker 2: The day exactly. Or I was going to say if 311 00:12:25,985 --> 00:12:28,345 Speaker 2: you didn't, if you would just really like, Okay, I don't. 312 00:12:28,505 --> 00:12:32,105 Speaker 2: I just know that it's not the vibe. And sometimes 313 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:34,945 Speaker 2: sometimes that's the case. But let's just say you know 314 00:12:35,025 --> 00:12:37,185 Speaker 2: that it's not going to be the vibe that you want. 315 00:12:39,025 --> 00:12:41,985 Speaker 2: Ask her if she would do like your mom's make up, 316 00:12:42,025 --> 00:12:44,305 Speaker 2: the mother of the groom or like you know. 317 00:12:44,265 --> 00:12:46,305 Speaker 3: And you're just giving her more work to do, but 318 00:12:46,425 --> 00:12:48,065 Speaker 3: like not the glory of the bride. 319 00:12:48,825 --> 00:12:50,785 Speaker 2: But maybe she just maybe the friend just wants to 320 00:12:50,865 --> 00:12:53,505 Speaker 2: be involved and wants to feel like she's a part 321 00:12:53,545 --> 00:12:54,945 Speaker 2: of the day. Like I don't know if this is 322 00:12:54,985 --> 00:12:57,625 Speaker 2: like a bridesmaid level friend we're talking about, if she's 323 00:12:57,625 --> 00:13:00,945 Speaker 2: a bridesmaid, just be like I need you on other things. 324 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:03,265 Speaker 2: I want you. Oh yeah, make her. 325 00:13:03,185 --> 00:13:06,745 Speaker 1: A bridesmaid so she doesn't do perfect okay. 326 00:13:06,505 --> 00:13:08,505 Speaker 2: And then you're actually the maid of honor now you're. 327 00:13:08,345 --> 00:13:11,345 Speaker 3: Actually you can do all of the other bridesmaids makeup, 328 00:13:11,385 --> 00:13:13,025 Speaker 3: but I just I want you to focus on all 329 00:13:13,065 --> 00:13:13,265 Speaker 3: of that. 330 00:13:13,945 --> 00:13:15,945 Speaker 1: I'll have someone else just to do mine. 331 00:13:16,265 --> 00:13:18,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're doing her a favor. 332 00:13:18,625 --> 00:13:20,465 Speaker 1: Yeah you are. You're just such a good friend. 333 00:13:20,545 --> 00:13:32,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, solved next. All right, So our second dilemma 334 00:13:33,105 --> 00:13:36,505 Speaker 2: the ex's skincare products. I mean, I think this one 335 00:13:36,545 --> 00:13:38,345 Speaker 2: will take about two seconds to answer. Let's get the 336 00:13:38,345 --> 00:13:42,425 Speaker 2: both of us were just like so our next admission 337 00:13:42,585 --> 00:13:45,945 Speaker 2: is anonymous from Melbourne. Also, can I just say Lauren? 338 00:13:45,985 --> 00:13:48,545 Speaker 2: I hope that's a fake name, because I wonder if 339 00:13:48,585 --> 00:13:52,665 Speaker 2: she's going to be easily identifiable Anyways, that's not our problem. 340 00:13:52,705 --> 00:13:53,505 Speaker 1: It's not our problem. 341 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:56,145 Speaker 3: So the makeup articxt friend listens to this episode, it's like, 342 00:13:56,145 --> 00:13:56,985 Speaker 3: what the back. 343 00:13:56,825 --> 00:14:03,105 Speaker 2: At our anonymous mate from Melbourne says, my boyfriend and 344 00:14:03,145 --> 00:14:06,745 Speaker 2: I recently broke up condolences, and he left all of 345 00:14:06,785 --> 00:14:09,145 Speaker 2: his skincare products at my place. We're talking a bunch 346 00:14:09,225 --> 00:14:12,025 Speaker 2: of super expensive stuff and I'm not gonna lie. I've 347 00:14:12,065 --> 00:14:14,465 Speaker 2: been using it. I'm now completely hooked on his face 348 00:14:14,705 --> 00:14:17,665 Speaker 2: wash and serums. Should I just keep it or do 349 00:14:17,745 --> 00:14:19,545 Speaker 2: I need to offer to give it back. I feel 350 00:14:19,545 --> 00:14:22,145 Speaker 2: like a total thief. And also I really want to 351 00:14:22,185 --> 00:14:23,825 Speaker 2: keep it. He did me dirty at the end of 352 00:14:23,865 --> 00:14:27,745 Speaker 2: the relationship. You're using it like you're keeping it? 353 00:14:27,745 --> 00:14:28,785 Speaker 1: Is she anonymous? 354 00:14:29,145 --> 00:14:30,105 Speaker 2: Yeah? 355 00:14:29,825 --> 00:14:34,905 Speaker 1: Anon, you're an overthinker. I think, who, oh my goodness, 356 00:14:34,945 --> 00:14:38,545 Speaker 1: they're yours. Who cares? Not a chance? Are you giving 357 00:14:38,585 --> 00:14:39,505 Speaker 1: those back? No? 358 00:14:39,625 --> 00:14:42,065 Speaker 2: And also, you know what you're not doing. You're not 359 00:14:42,225 --> 00:14:45,305 Speaker 2: reaching out to him to ask if he would like 360 00:14:45,345 --> 00:14:46,065 Speaker 2: it back. 361 00:14:45,865 --> 00:14:48,505 Speaker 3: His expensive skincare products back. Well, you're gonna then give 362 00:14:48,545 --> 00:14:49,425 Speaker 3: them back half empty. 363 00:14:49,545 --> 00:14:49,865 Speaker 1: Sorry. 364 00:14:50,265 --> 00:14:54,225 Speaker 2: If it was like he'd left his iPad, yeah, or 365 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:58,305 Speaker 2: like his simply hold, or like an heirloom piece of jewelry, 366 00:14:58,345 --> 00:15:02,185 Speaker 2: like maybe if you're going to be the bigger person. No, 367 00:15:02,385 --> 00:15:04,785 Speaker 2: absolutely not. I also want to know what it was. 368 00:15:04,985 --> 00:15:07,865 Speaker 2: I'm really curious as to what the products were, So 369 00:15:07,905 --> 00:15:10,225 Speaker 2: if Anon wants to just follow that up, let us know. 370 00:15:11,305 --> 00:15:13,065 Speaker 2: Just because it's a bit pervian, I want to know. 371 00:15:13,145 --> 00:15:17,105 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are these amazing expensive skincare products. If he 372 00:15:17,185 --> 00:15:19,385 Speaker 3: ever does get in touch and asks them back, you 373 00:15:19,425 --> 00:15:22,425 Speaker 3: can either A just not respond because you don't owe 374 00:15:22,545 --> 00:15:25,305 Speaker 3: him anything, or B just be like, oh, it was 375 00:15:25,385 --> 00:15:27,105 Speaker 3: just your staff and I don't think you want it, 376 00:15:27,105 --> 00:15:29,825 Speaker 3: so I chucked it out. You owe him nothing, No, 377 00:15:29,985 --> 00:15:33,145 Speaker 3: owe him absolutely nothing. No, he's clearly taken part of 378 00:15:33,185 --> 00:15:36,865 Speaker 3: your time, potentially some of your dignity, your heart, take 379 00:15:36,945 --> 00:15:37,625 Speaker 3: his skincare. 380 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:41,385 Speaker 2: And also he probably found out about those products through you, 381 00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:46,625 Speaker 2: as in like he probably learned about skincare by being 382 00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:49,185 Speaker 2: with you. It's always the way we trained them up, 383 00:15:49,385 --> 00:15:52,265 Speaker 2: and then off they go to the next person. 384 00:15:52,145 --> 00:16:01,385 Speaker 3: Exactly question number three, the unsolicited advice. This one's getting 385 00:16:01,385 --> 00:16:03,225 Speaker 3: my backup. I think it's getting your back up too, 386 00:16:04,465 --> 00:16:07,665 Speaker 3: and known as well from Sydney. I have a friend 387 00:16:07,665 --> 00:16:10,945 Speaker 3: who is the absolute sweetest, but she has a full 388 00:16:10,985 --> 00:16:13,145 Speaker 3: on beard and mustache. 389 00:16:13,865 --> 00:16:15,785 Speaker 2: Why didn't you mustache? 390 00:16:15,985 --> 00:16:18,505 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. I've always said mustache in a 391 00:16:18,625 --> 00:16:20,265 Speaker 1: mustache mustache. I don't know why. 392 00:16:20,265 --> 00:16:22,825 Speaker 3: I just think the word mustache is really funny. Okay, 393 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:24,945 Speaker 3: my other friends and I talk about it, and we 394 00:16:25,025 --> 00:16:28,145 Speaker 3: can't figure out if she doesn't notice or doesn't care. 395 00:16:28,505 --> 00:16:31,065 Speaker 3: We're all in our mid twenties and obsessed with TikTok 396 00:16:31,105 --> 00:16:33,385 Speaker 3: beauty hacks, and I'm honestly wondering if I should talk 397 00:16:33,425 --> 00:16:35,665 Speaker 3: to her about it. Is there a gentle way to 398 00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:37,985 Speaker 3: bring it up or is this one of those things 399 00:16:38,025 --> 00:16:40,225 Speaker 3: where you just have to let it be. I'm worried 400 00:16:40,265 --> 00:16:42,625 Speaker 3: it might be affecting her confidence, but I'm also worried 401 00:16:42,625 --> 00:16:44,945 Speaker 3: about totally embarrassing her for saying something. 402 00:16:45,425 --> 00:16:47,985 Speaker 1: Well, Sydney and On tell you, who isn't the absolute 403 00:16:48,025 --> 00:16:53,145 Speaker 1: sweetest you go just let rip. 404 00:16:54,025 --> 00:16:57,105 Speaker 3: Well, I just think you're not actually worried about your 405 00:16:57,185 --> 00:17:00,345 Speaker 3: friend's confidence, Otherwise you wouldn't be bitching about her beard 406 00:17:00,545 --> 00:17:01,745 Speaker 3: behind her back. 407 00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:06,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is I'm cringing even thinking about how 408 00:17:06,705 --> 00:17:08,345 Speaker 2: that conversation would even go. 409 00:17:08,905 --> 00:17:09,945 Speaker 1: Just don't like. 410 00:17:10,265 --> 00:17:12,905 Speaker 3: I just think unless she has a medical condition that 411 00:17:12,945 --> 00:17:15,985 Speaker 3: has affected her eyesight, or she's got really poor eyesight 412 00:17:16,025 --> 00:17:18,825 Speaker 3: and doesn't wear glasses or contacts, she's well aware that 413 00:17:18,865 --> 00:17:19,465 Speaker 3: she's hairy. 414 00:17:19,545 --> 00:17:24,745 Speaker 1: Okay, we know as a fellow hairy lass, we know 415 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,905 Speaker 1: that they are. We are very hairy. Okay. 416 00:17:28,305 --> 00:17:30,585 Speaker 3: We don't need you and your other and our other 417 00:17:30,665 --> 00:17:34,145 Speaker 3: hairless friends bitching about our hairiness. 418 00:17:33,625 --> 00:17:36,905 Speaker 1: Behind our back. We know, and we would ask you 419 00:17:36,945 --> 00:17:38,625 Speaker 1: know what as well. There's a reason why she probably 420 00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:39,465 Speaker 1: hasn't asked you. 421 00:17:39,505 --> 00:17:41,745 Speaker 2: I love that the fingers up, Oh, I've got the 422 00:17:41,785 --> 00:17:45,865 Speaker 2: finger pointing and one other thing, one other thing. 423 00:17:46,985 --> 00:17:49,105 Speaker 1: Bearded lady, come and be friends with me. I won't 424 00:17:49,145 --> 00:17:50,425 Speaker 1: make fun of your beard. 425 00:17:50,705 --> 00:17:56,385 Speaker 2: But just in all seriousness, because, like you know, there's 426 00:17:56,385 --> 00:18:00,625 Speaker 2: lots of reasons why people might have fasuettes hair. Yeah, 427 00:18:00,745 --> 00:18:04,705 Speaker 2: genetics exactly, it might be hormone or even if your 428 00:18:04,745 --> 00:18:07,905 Speaker 2: body's gone through a massive change like that can all 429 00:18:07,945 --> 00:18:09,225 Speaker 2: throw your hair out of. 430 00:18:09,265 --> 00:18:14,585 Speaker 1: Why well, you just might be hairy. Hello, I have 431 00:18:14,625 --> 00:18:16,105 Speaker 1: to tweeze every single day. 432 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:20,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have, Like I'm fair, so I 433 00:18:20,985 --> 00:18:23,745 Speaker 2: am one of those blessed people where you don't see 434 00:18:23,785 --> 00:18:26,905 Speaker 2: the hair necessarily. Maybe it's shining in the studio light. 435 00:18:27,145 --> 00:18:29,745 Speaker 1: It possibly could because I'm fair too, but you can see. 436 00:18:29,745 --> 00:18:32,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like my husband will often kind of like 437 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:37,265 Speaker 2: lovingly be like, oh, there's your mustache when it catches 438 00:18:37,305 --> 00:18:37,865 Speaker 2: the sunlight. 439 00:18:38,145 --> 00:18:38,905 Speaker 1: How nice of him? 440 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:39,225 Speaker 2: Is he? 441 00:18:39,345 --> 00:18:44,305 Speaker 1: Anon? Is your husband? Actually? And he's changed his friends, 442 00:18:44,625 --> 00:18:48,585 Speaker 1: he meant his wife, he's actually and it wustache. 443 00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:51,905 Speaker 2: But I know, like I see it every time I 444 00:18:51,945 --> 00:18:54,625 Speaker 2: look in the mirror, especially when I use our powder 445 00:18:54,705 --> 00:18:59,265 Speaker 2: room downstairs with the overhead lights shining. I see that 446 00:18:59,385 --> 00:19:02,865 Speaker 2: mustache and I don't like and I just I don't care. 447 00:19:02,945 --> 00:19:05,865 Speaker 2: I don't care enough, so, as Kelly said, the person 448 00:19:05,985 --> 00:19:10,185 Speaker 2: knows I would absolutely not be bringing it up unless 449 00:19:10,185 --> 00:19:14,065 Speaker 2: they unless they do, unless they have made a comment 450 00:19:14,385 --> 00:19:17,105 Speaker 2: in the past, or maybe they've like made a bit 451 00:19:17,105 --> 00:19:22,305 Speaker 2: of a joke about it at some stage on multiple occasions. 452 00:19:21,785 --> 00:19:24,185 Speaker 3: And you can totally say something like Amy's just pointed 453 00:19:24,225 --> 00:19:25,545 Speaker 3: out her own mustache. 454 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:28,465 Speaker 1: So then it now Kelly to say, oh, did you 455 00:19:28,505 --> 00:19:29,585 Speaker 1: know taking it? 456 00:19:30,985 --> 00:19:36,305 Speaker 2: And I would say I have something you have Yeah, yeah, God, 457 00:19:37,385 --> 00:19:39,985 Speaker 2: gosh darn it, ye Devil's advocate. 458 00:19:41,105 --> 00:19:45,825 Speaker 6: They could potentially yeah, absolutely, like absolutely every like different 459 00:19:45,865 --> 00:19:49,425 Speaker 6: strokes for different folks, but also like they could potentially 460 00:19:49,465 --> 00:19:52,585 Speaker 6: The person who wrote in said that they are all 461 00:19:52,625 --> 00:19:53,425 Speaker 6: obsessed with. 462 00:19:53,345 --> 00:19:57,145 Speaker 2: TikTok beauty hags, Like if you really wanted to do something, 463 00:19:57,185 --> 00:19:59,905 Speaker 2: you could like share a video of one of those 464 00:19:59,985 --> 00:20:01,945 Speaker 2: creators putting no. 465 00:20:02,105 --> 00:20:04,625 Speaker 1: That's even meaner. I don't know. 466 00:20:04,665 --> 00:20:06,745 Speaker 3: The funny thing is, though, where because I get so 467 00:20:07,025 --> 00:20:10,145 Speaker 3: arked up about this yet. I if if someone had 468 00:20:10,145 --> 00:20:12,865 Speaker 3: a really smelly cowork, I wouldn't be opposed to putting 469 00:20:12,905 --> 00:20:13,505 Speaker 3: deodoran on. 470 00:20:13,425 --> 00:20:15,865 Speaker 2: That absolutely, But then that's affecting. 471 00:20:15,385 --> 00:20:17,785 Speaker 1: You because you have to smell it and you can't concentrate. 472 00:20:17,865 --> 00:20:21,065 Speaker 2: But yes, I think hygiene related things is different because. 473 00:20:20,825 --> 00:20:23,185 Speaker 3: It affects you and then you can't concentrate on other things. 474 00:20:23,225 --> 00:20:25,505 Speaker 3: But her hairy face doesn't affect you at all. And 475 00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:27,745 Speaker 3: if you say that, you have to look at your bitch, 476 00:20:28,345 --> 00:20:28,905 Speaker 3: because that's. 477 00:20:28,745 --> 00:20:30,065 Speaker 1: What I'm thinking. I'm like preempting. 478 00:20:30,945 --> 00:20:33,425 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, sorry, Sydney, and I'm sure that you're actually 479 00:20:33,425 --> 00:20:34,505 Speaker 3: a nice person, but I. 480 00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:37,545 Speaker 1: Just don't say anything as a fellow hairy gal. 481 00:20:37,545 --> 00:20:39,585 Speaker 3: It just upset me that people are talking about their 482 00:20:39,865 --> 00:20:41,305 Speaker 3: hairy gal behind your back. 483 00:20:47,945 --> 00:20:52,145 Speaker 2: Finally, we have a post baby body dilemma. So this 484 00:20:52,185 --> 00:20:55,985 Speaker 2: submission is another a non from Adelaide, my hometown. 485 00:20:56,225 --> 00:20:59,345 Speaker 3: Fair enough, when they're emailing the agony ants, they want 486 00:20:59,465 --> 00:20:59,825 Speaker 3: a non. 487 00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:03,105 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like, I have no judgment to a non. 488 00:21:03,225 --> 00:21:07,025 Speaker 2: We know, and I actually love a noon because it means, like, 489 00:21:07,145 --> 00:21:10,305 Speaker 2: tell us what you really need to know. Yeah, So 490 00:21:10,905 --> 00:21:13,185 Speaker 2: a none says I'm a new mum and I'm struggling 491 00:21:13,225 --> 00:21:15,665 Speaker 2: with the changes to my body, especially the excess skin 492 00:21:15,745 --> 00:21:18,065 Speaker 2: on my tummy. I love my baby more than anything, 493 00:21:18,105 --> 00:21:20,425 Speaker 2: but when I look in the mirror, I don't recognize myself. 494 00:21:20,505 --> 00:21:23,545 Speaker 2: My friends tell me it's a Badge of honor quote unquote, 495 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:26,305 Speaker 2: but I just feel really uncomfortable. Is there anything I 496 00:21:26,305 --> 00:21:29,625 Speaker 2: can do for this? Or do I just have to 497 00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:32,105 Speaker 2: accept this as my new normal. I'll throw it to 498 00:21:32,185 --> 00:21:35,465 Speaker 2: you first, Kelly, because you are a mum, so I 499 00:21:35,465 --> 00:21:37,865 Speaker 2: feel like, let's you get the first rid of reply. 500 00:21:38,145 --> 00:21:40,025 Speaker 1: Okay, that's nice of you. 501 00:21:41,385 --> 00:21:43,545 Speaker 3: Firstly, I feel like I need a little bit more 502 00:21:43,545 --> 00:21:46,505 Speaker 3: context of how new of a mum you are, because 503 00:21:46,505 --> 00:21:49,105 Speaker 3: if you're really new, I mean regardless, I think that 504 00:21:49,145 --> 00:21:52,385 Speaker 3: you need to be kind to yourself, like bodies do 505 00:21:52,505 --> 00:21:55,985 Speaker 3: not just bounce back overnight, however much Hollywood tells us. 506 00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:58,505 Speaker 3: I also would like to know your age, because that also, 507 00:21:59,105 --> 00:22:02,025 Speaker 3: funnily enough, has so much do with it, with how 508 00:22:02,585 --> 00:22:04,705 Speaker 3: much like quickly your skin does go back. 509 00:22:04,585 --> 00:22:07,865 Speaker 2: And its age is actually probably more important than like 510 00:22:08,025 --> 00:22:11,465 Speaker 2: your previous If you had a six pack before, that 511 00:22:11,505 --> 00:22:16,145 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you're automatically going to have this tight 512 00:22:16,185 --> 00:22:16,625 Speaker 2: six pack. 513 00:22:16,785 --> 00:22:21,225 Speaker 3: Especially I would say, if you're say thirty five and older, 514 00:22:22,105 --> 00:22:24,705 Speaker 3: your skin it simply does not have the collagen an 515 00:22:24,745 --> 00:22:28,385 Speaker 3: elasticity that it does if you'll say twenty three, So 516 00:22:28,425 --> 00:22:31,265 Speaker 3: it like it potentially will never go back. And I'm 517 00:22:31,265 --> 00:22:33,705 Speaker 3: going to use the word normal, I mean normal for 518 00:22:33,785 --> 00:22:36,025 Speaker 3: you what you looked like before you had a baby. 519 00:22:36,025 --> 00:22:37,585 Speaker 3: So please, if you hear me use that word, I 520 00:22:37,625 --> 00:22:42,345 Speaker 3: simply mean before you have a baby. I was older, 521 00:22:42,385 --> 00:22:44,825 Speaker 3: I was in my mid thirties when I had lend 522 00:22:44,985 --> 00:22:48,625 Speaker 3: Or thirty three, same thing, and my body did not 523 00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:53,225 Speaker 3: go back to what it was prior. I am in 524 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:55,985 Speaker 3: a smaller body than I was before. I felt pregnant 525 00:22:56,025 --> 00:22:59,945 Speaker 3: thanks to racing around after a toddler, but growing he 526 00:23:00,105 --> 00:23:00,905 Speaker 3: was huge. 527 00:23:01,545 --> 00:23:02,745 Speaker 1: He was so big. 528 00:23:02,865 --> 00:23:05,985 Speaker 3: My tummy stretched so much, and I do have loose 529 00:23:06,025 --> 00:23:07,945 Speaker 3: skin and like a lot of stretch marks on my 530 00:23:08,385 --> 00:23:10,665 Speaker 3: tummy that will not like it's been three years, so 531 00:23:10,745 --> 00:23:12,745 Speaker 3: they're definitely not going to go away now, which is 532 00:23:12,745 --> 00:23:14,145 Speaker 3: why I also want to know how old the baby 533 00:23:14,225 --> 00:23:17,225 Speaker 3: is though, because it does take time. Yes, my skin 534 00:23:17,305 --> 00:23:21,225 Speaker 3: definitely did go back somewhat after a year or so. 535 00:23:22,665 --> 00:23:24,105 Speaker 3: You can take it away now and then we can 536 00:23:24,145 --> 00:23:25,985 Speaker 3: sort of get into the options. 537 00:23:26,025 --> 00:23:29,945 Speaker 1: But I get it. It does feel weird, and you know, 538 00:23:29,985 --> 00:23:31,465 Speaker 1: I'm the first person to go. 539 00:23:33,025 --> 00:23:37,065 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like just a beautiful sign that that was 540 00:23:37,105 --> 00:23:38,825 Speaker 3: the house that you grew your baby in. But I 541 00:23:38,865 --> 00:23:42,505 Speaker 3: also totally get sometimes I do think it'd be nice 542 00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:45,465 Speaker 3: to wear a bikini. Yeah, Like I've got a lovely 543 00:23:45,945 --> 00:23:49,385 Speaker 3: flat stomach at the moment, but I wouldn't wear a 544 00:23:49,465 --> 00:23:52,425 Speaker 3: bikini because it's do you know, the talking tummy not 545 00:23:52,545 --> 00:23:52,985 Speaker 3: with skin. 546 00:23:54,225 --> 00:23:54,905 Speaker 1: Sorry, it was. 547 00:23:54,905 --> 00:23:56,865 Speaker 2: Really a brass that was frightening. 548 00:23:56,985 --> 00:23:59,345 Speaker 1: We've got like a lot, there's a lot happening there. 549 00:23:59,465 --> 00:24:02,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like it's so interesting because like that doesn't 550 00:24:02,905 --> 00:24:06,905 Speaker 2: have a thought about how their body looks, regardless of 551 00:24:06,905 --> 00:24:09,825 Speaker 2: whether they're a size six, a size twenty six, that 552 00:24:09,825 --> 00:24:14,105 Speaker 2: they're conventionally attractive whatever, man, woman, whatever, Like. 553 00:24:14,145 --> 00:24:16,265 Speaker 1: Literally could not agree. 554 00:24:16,385 --> 00:24:18,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I relate to this on a personal level 555 00:24:18,985 --> 00:24:22,585 Speaker 2: because like I've had bariatric surgery, gastric sleeve and that 556 00:24:22,785 --> 00:24:26,465 Speaker 2: was that was five for almost six years ago now, 557 00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:29,865 Speaker 2: So the loose skin like that will never be going 558 00:24:29,865 --> 00:24:32,985 Speaker 2: away unless it's literally slashed off my body, which I 559 00:24:33,025 --> 00:24:35,825 Speaker 2: probably will do that at some point. I'm thinking, like 560 00:24:36,065 --> 00:24:39,665 Speaker 2: post if I'm you know, blessed enough to have a kid, 561 00:24:40,025 --> 00:24:43,185 Speaker 2: like I would one percent be you know, having my 562 00:24:43,505 --> 00:24:46,025 Speaker 2: arms and stomach looked at, because that's what would make 563 00:24:46,105 --> 00:24:51,545 Speaker 2: me feel just like better. But I've also been living 564 00:24:51,545 --> 00:24:53,585 Speaker 2: with this loose skin for like five years now. And 565 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,785 Speaker 2: it doesn't stop me from doing my everyday activities. It 566 00:24:56,825 --> 00:25:00,985 Speaker 2: doesn't stop me from wearing bathers, swimmers and all of that. 567 00:25:01,345 --> 00:25:04,705 Speaker 2: But the thing is is that, yeah, there's no creams. 568 00:25:04,785 --> 00:25:08,905 Speaker 2: There's no cream Some lasers would help a little bit, 569 00:25:09,025 --> 00:25:12,185 Speaker 2: depending on the severity of the loose skin, like laser 570 00:25:12,185 --> 00:25:15,105 Speaker 2: would probably help with mine or stretch marks. And also 571 00:25:15,145 --> 00:25:17,345 Speaker 2: the other thing I was gonna say, I think this 572 00:25:17,385 --> 00:25:19,345 Speaker 2: comes down to how you feel about it as well. 573 00:25:19,425 --> 00:25:22,305 Speaker 2: Comes down to whether you had stretch marks before already, 574 00:25:22,785 --> 00:25:26,585 Speaker 2: Like my body has had all sorts of stripes and 575 00:25:26,665 --> 00:25:29,545 Speaker 2: things going on since I was probably like fourteen years old, 576 00:25:29,585 --> 00:25:31,945 Speaker 2: because you've situated a little bit, yeah, because of growth 577 00:25:31,985 --> 00:25:33,545 Speaker 2: spurts and things like that. If you're the kind of 578 00:25:33,545 --> 00:25:35,945 Speaker 2: person that never has had stretch marks before and then 579 00:25:35,985 --> 00:25:39,265 Speaker 2: you get them, that is quite confronting, especially because they're 580 00:25:39,345 --> 00:25:42,145 Speaker 2: super angry looking when you first get them, and then obviously, 581 00:25:42,545 --> 00:25:45,745 Speaker 2: like mine are all lack a lovely silvery you know, 582 00:25:46,985 --> 00:25:49,665 Speaker 2: lines that just hit the light nicely. 583 00:25:49,785 --> 00:25:52,185 Speaker 1: But when you first get them, you're so right, they 584 00:25:52,185 --> 00:25:53,425 Speaker 1: are cranky looking. 585 00:25:53,665 --> 00:25:57,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, they look they look red and angry. But there's 586 00:25:58,065 --> 00:26:02,265 Speaker 2: the skin, especially skin in large areas like that across 587 00:26:02,265 --> 00:26:04,585 Speaker 2: the stomach. We get a lot of questions in the 588 00:26:04,665 --> 00:26:08,265 Speaker 2: U Beauty Facebook group about loose skin on the neck 589 00:26:09,305 --> 00:26:13,025 Speaker 2: and around kind of this the double chin area, and 590 00:26:13,065 --> 00:26:16,745 Speaker 2: like this is its thinner skin. It is like a 591 00:26:16,785 --> 00:26:20,785 Speaker 2: smaller area. So like if you're using say a vitamin 592 00:26:20,865 --> 00:26:27,705 Speaker 2: a body treatment like that can like help reduce the appearance. 593 00:26:27,745 --> 00:26:31,465 Speaker 2: It's not gonna like nothing's gonna be like a facelift 594 00:26:31,705 --> 00:26:35,585 Speaker 2: or like having surgery, but that can help. However, so 595 00:26:35,625 --> 00:26:38,625 Speaker 2: you could you could use that kind of thing on 596 00:26:38,705 --> 00:26:41,505 Speaker 2: your stomach, but it's not gonna have you just gotta 597 00:26:41,545 --> 00:26:44,825 Speaker 2: be realistic about the expectation about the results you're gonna get. 598 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:48,505 Speaker 2: That might help. As you said, a laser for like 599 00:26:48,545 --> 00:26:52,025 Speaker 2: the appearance of stretch marks can help. It is expensive, 600 00:26:52,145 --> 00:26:54,465 Speaker 2: like you've got to go. It's not like a one 601 00:26:54,505 --> 00:26:55,585 Speaker 2: and done treatment. 602 00:26:55,385 --> 00:26:56,825 Speaker 3: Times just to go get a bit of a tuck 603 00:26:57,185 --> 00:26:59,585 Speaker 3: well or what have you looked into it? 604 00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:00,185 Speaker 1: How much is it? 605 00:27:00,305 --> 00:27:04,305 Speaker 2: I haven't yet, but it's probably it'll be an investment. 606 00:27:05,025 --> 00:27:09,305 Speaker 2: It'll be an investment that's more just like a I mean, 607 00:27:09,305 --> 00:27:11,785 Speaker 2: I hey, who knows, but by the time I get there, 608 00:27:11,825 --> 00:27:14,345 Speaker 2: maybe I'm gonna be oh, fuck it. Whatever, I'm too tired. 609 00:27:14,505 --> 00:27:16,865 Speaker 3: Well honestly, that's how I feel. Like, Yes, I look 610 00:27:16,905 --> 00:27:18,105 Speaker 3: at my stomach and I'm like. 611 00:27:18,785 --> 00:27:21,785 Speaker 2: But coming into yeah, but coming into summer like this 612 00:27:21,905 --> 00:27:25,745 Speaker 2: time of year, I won one hundred percent like empathize 613 00:27:25,785 --> 00:27:27,425 Speaker 2: and know what it feels like to be on the 614 00:27:27,465 --> 00:27:30,945 Speaker 2: beach and to just be like, I've got this skin 615 00:27:31,105 --> 00:27:33,385 Speaker 2: hanging off me and I feel like, you know, I 616 00:27:33,385 --> 00:27:35,385 Speaker 2: want to run in the water or I want to 617 00:27:35,505 --> 00:27:37,505 Speaker 2: do you know, I want to wear the strappy tops 618 00:27:37,545 --> 00:27:41,265 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, reaching for the bus and 619 00:27:41,305 --> 00:27:42,465 Speaker 2: there it's fluffing away. 620 00:27:42,625 --> 00:27:45,385 Speaker 1: But like, did you see that TikTok I shared not 621 00:27:45,425 --> 00:27:46,905 Speaker 1: longer where it was swing swing? 622 00:27:47,025 --> 00:27:50,065 Speaker 3: She actually she was like, I can't afford skin removal surgery, 623 00:27:50,425 --> 00:27:52,225 Speaker 3: so I got I can't afford a tatoo, So she 624 00:27:52,305 --> 00:27:56,145 Speaker 3: got a tattoo of a lady swinging on her arm skin. 625 00:27:56,705 --> 00:27:58,865 Speaker 3: So it just like, you know, she's got a sense 626 00:27:58,865 --> 00:27:59,225 Speaker 3: of humor. 627 00:27:59,305 --> 00:28:01,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have so much loose skin that literally like 628 00:28:01,385 --> 00:28:04,585 Speaker 2: I can't if I dance too hard, like it's slapping together. 629 00:28:04,985 --> 00:28:08,905 Speaker 2: So a party trick if you yes. Literally, But what 630 00:28:08,985 --> 00:28:12,025 Speaker 2: I would say is one thing I wanted to recommend 631 00:28:12,265 --> 00:28:15,145 Speaker 2: in terms of like I just want to recommend some 632 00:28:15,185 --> 00:28:18,265 Speaker 2: swimwear and maybe because I'm just thinking that, like this 633 00:28:18,425 --> 00:28:22,385 Speaker 2: is coming up and its topical, like I swear by 634 00:28:23,105 --> 00:28:25,505 Speaker 2: I have. I think it's is it Uni piece or 635 00:28:25,585 --> 00:28:28,985 Speaker 2: yes piece I have. I actually prefer to wear a 636 00:28:29,025 --> 00:28:31,465 Speaker 2: two piece, like I've tried one piece of thinking that 637 00:28:31,465 --> 00:28:33,425 Speaker 2: that's gonna make me feel more confident about my stomach. 638 00:28:33,465 --> 00:28:35,865 Speaker 3: But I actually feel sexier in a two piece. He 639 00:28:35,945 --> 00:28:38,105 Speaker 3: looks so good in a two piece. 640 00:28:38,425 --> 00:28:42,265 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like high waisted with like one of those 641 00:28:42,465 --> 00:28:46,705 Speaker 2: like balconet like bra cup swimming. 642 00:28:46,345 --> 00:28:47,825 Speaker 1: It kind of like pushes everything up. 643 00:28:47,825 --> 00:28:52,185 Speaker 2: Shoes, everything up. I feel like Marilyn Monroe or the. 644 00:28:52,425 --> 00:28:53,145 Speaker 1: Run in the ocean. 645 00:28:53,145 --> 00:28:55,985 Speaker 2: Then yeah, I mean I do whatever, Like honestly, you 646 00:28:56,265 --> 00:28:58,865 Speaker 2: once you get down there, no what Yeah a reminder 647 00:28:58,945 --> 00:29:00,065 Speaker 2: no one is looking at you. 648 00:29:00,145 --> 00:29:02,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, or they might to be like, oh where did 649 00:29:02,745 --> 00:29:05,505 Speaker 1: she get her swimsuit or whatnot? Like yeah, or you're 650 00:29:05,505 --> 00:29:07,425 Speaker 1: not going to remain. 651 00:29:07,185 --> 00:29:10,385 Speaker 2: In anyone, absolutely not. But the other one too is 652 00:29:10,425 --> 00:29:13,705 Speaker 2: like the boy like boy of short. But baths are 653 00:29:13,705 --> 00:29:16,305 Speaker 2: really in at the moment, Like I have a great 654 00:29:16,345 --> 00:29:19,225 Speaker 2: pair from Kmart that I wore while I was overseas 655 00:29:19,265 --> 00:29:22,465 Speaker 2: a lot that kind of like shorts with a little 656 00:29:22,505 --> 00:29:27,265 Speaker 2: high waist short that also would like eat with whatever 657 00:29:27,345 --> 00:29:29,825 Speaker 2: top you want, but like that with then something a 658 00:29:29,865 --> 00:29:33,425 Speaker 2: bit more like a triangle on the top. Cute, very sexy. 659 00:29:33,425 --> 00:29:36,265 Speaker 2: But yes, long story short, there is nothing you can 660 00:29:36,305 --> 00:29:39,825 Speaker 2: do for that loose skin on your stomach unless you 661 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:42,465 Speaker 2: are gonna go and invest and have like, you know, 662 00:29:42,545 --> 00:29:44,265 Speaker 2: a cosmetic which curt. 663 00:29:44,305 --> 00:29:45,625 Speaker 1: Probably can't do it the moment. 664 00:29:45,665 --> 00:29:48,745 Speaker 3: Anyway, if you're a new mum, yeah, like if when 665 00:29:48,905 --> 00:29:50,905 Speaker 3: someone says a new mum, I'm assuming the baby's like 666 00:29:50,905 --> 00:29:51,825 Speaker 3: only a few months old. 667 00:29:51,985 --> 00:29:54,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, give it a bit, give it some time to 668 00:29:54,185 --> 00:29:57,185 Speaker 2: like come to grips with this new you, because yeah, 669 00:29:57,225 --> 00:29:59,905 Speaker 2: looking in the mirror, it can be very disorientating to 670 00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:04,585 Speaker 2: be like, this person that I'm looking at doesn't look 671 00:30:04,865 --> 00:30:07,705 Speaker 2: like however you used to tell me talk. Yeah, and 672 00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:10,265 Speaker 2: you know, but at the end of the day, your 673 00:30:10,265 --> 00:30:13,345 Speaker 2: feelings are valid. But yeah, I hope that has been 674 00:30:13,385 --> 00:30:15,705 Speaker 2: helpful for hour and on and I hope that she's 675 00:30:15,785 --> 00:30:19,625 Speaker 2: like enjoying being a mum, yeah, like and soaking it up. 676 00:30:20,305 --> 00:30:22,785 Speaker 2: Oh and maybe getting some sleep. I don't know, what 677 00:30:22,785 --> 00:30:23,425 Speaker 2: do your moms do? 678 00:30:23,545 --> 00:30:26,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good advice. Thank you. That's all. 679 00:30:27,225 --> 00:30:28,785 Speaker 1: We'll be back in your ears and eyes. 680 00:30:28,905 --> 00:30:31,345 Speaker 3: Who knows when. Like we said, it'll just be when 681 00:30:31,385 --> 00:30:32,945 Speaker 3: you least expect it. 682 00:30:32,825 --> 00:30:33,825 Speaker 1: Like you're annoying aunt. 683 00:30:34,145 --> 00:30:37,465 Speaker 2: Yes, but please, if you have a dilemma, you have 684 00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:39,385 Speaker 2: a question that you're too embarrassed to put in the 685 00:30:39,425 --> 00:30:44,225 Speaker 2: you Beauty Facebook group or your friends, ask us and 686 00:30:44,265 --> 00:30:49,505 Speaker 2: we will give you our honest thoughts. But until next time, Bye,