Speaker 1: We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land we're recording
Speaker 1: on today.
Speaker 2: That was cringe.
Speaker 1: It was so many rares that you read that out.
Speaker 2: I'm nothing if not able to giggle at myself.
Speaker 1: Did he write back? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you want to up the cringe?
Speaker 3: Go on?
Speaker 1: Man, this is so juicy. Hello, and welcome back to
Speaker 1: eat sleep.
Speaker 2: Sh'd repeat another rogue edition of Keys in Europe. I'm
Speaker 2: Kelly McCarran.
Speaker 1: And I'm Key Resells.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I am somewhere off in the Mediterranean with my family.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's all going well while hell man's the fort
Speaker 1: at home. But don't worry she is, because one man's
Speaker 1: misfortune is another man's entertainment. I have lots of travel
Speaker 1: tips and lolls as soon as I get back.
Speaker 2: But today we're kicking back Q and A style, So Key,
Speaker 2: I thought that we would just kick it back. I've
Speaker 2: got ten questions for each of us. Love it listen.
Speaker 2: If we're really curious, we can answer the other person's two.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to keep it a little bit interesting
Speaker 2: and we'll take it in turn. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: start off with something really like, Okay, Key, do you
Speaker 2: believe in astrology.
Speaker 1: I do, really, yeah, so off brand.
Speaker 2: You're not Ulu.
Speaker 1: I think it's because I am like such a Gemini,
Speaker 1: like in what way, definitely like split personality. I'm very creative.
Speaker 1: I start lots of things and don't finish them, like
Speaker 1: I'm two a tee a Gemini.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm nothing like a Libra. And whenever I say
Speaker 2: that to astrologists, they go, oh, yeah, but you probably
Speaker 2: look a query it's rising and I'm like, oh, shut up.
Speaker 1: So I would say that, I'm like, here we go.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you're probably a Gemini rising.
Speaker 1: No, I would say that I am entry level a
Speaker 1: believer in astrology. I haven't had my chart read and
Speaker 1: I don't know what my rising is or any of that.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere that I hope to get. But you have
Speaker 1: to know things like what time of the day you
Speaker 1: were born. Don't know that?
Speaker 2: How do you not?
Speaker 1: Oh you can't ask my mum? Can I who A,
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask? But yeah, I do believe in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe in like the things
Speaker 1: you see in magazines like your weekly, oh, that kind
Speaker 1: of thing, but I definitely do believe that, not all people,
Speaker 1: because there's definitely outliers who you meet and you're like,
Speaker 1: they'll say that there's something like a Leo.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you were the most placid leo.
Speaker 1: You're not a Leo. I think you might be. Are
Speaker 1: you a cancer? And They're like, oh, I'm on the cusp?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, that will makes sense.
Speaker 2: Like I think, do you even know what personality traits
Speaker 2: go with different things? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well not for all of them, because some of them
Speaker 1: I've just don't even have important people in my life
Speaker 1: who are a certain thing. Like I don't know any
Speaker 1: scorpios but the scorpiary really fiy.
Speaker 2: No, But like when when are they born?
Speaker 1: I think September.
Speaker 2: I don't really believe in astrology, okay, but I actually
Speaker 2: find it very interesting when people are it's a bit weird,
Speaker 2: but it's also like it's a cute hobby and whenever
Speaker 2: someone wow, cute sounds.
Speaker 1: So perpa it's so patronized.
Speaker 2: I don't mean it in a patronizing way. I mean
Speaker 2: it in a I'm often not interested in a lot
Speaker 2: of things, but if someone wants to talk to me
Speaker 2: about astrology, even though I don't believe in it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I find it very interesting.
Speaker 1: But I think there are a lot of hacks out
Speaker 1: there with astrology. Like I think if you went to
Speaker 1: like a true astrologist who really had honed their skills
Speaker 1: like whatever you see in those magazines, I don't believe
Speaker 1: it's like you're going to run into money this week
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, that would be nice, that would
Speaker 1: be lovely.
Speaker 2: I never have You've never been right before.
Speaker 1: But they're very top line those types of things. But
Speaker 1: if you actually got a proper astrologist, I think that
Speaker 1: they can get like quite detailed on it.
Speaker 2: But I really do believe it's so narcissistic though, that
Speaker 2: that's something that we'd go pay for to understand their
Speaker 2: fields better.
Speaker 1: Well. I was going to say, there's this very well
Speaker 1: known as in people all around Australia travel clairvoyant and
Speaker 1: Brisbane that has likes always booked out and like my
Speaker 1: friends have been and the things that he says is
Speaker 1: like stuff that not one would know about their family.
Speaker 1: That he never asked for their last name. It's only
Speaker 1: ever first name basis. They bring in two photos, the
Speaker 1: photos of face down like I.
Speaker 2: Can't not that's not astrology though, but That's what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying is like, I think that realm of clearly, I
Speaker 1: believe in ghosts exactly, So it's surprising that you don't
Speaker 1: like astrology.
Speaker 2: It's just very I don't know.
Speaker 1: It has also probably been a bit whitewash. So the
Speaker 1: version of astrology that we consume on a regular basis
Speaker 1: is very watered down, like very broad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I like every day i'd like to get my
Speaker 1: charts read. We should go get our chart thread together.
Speaker 2: That could be good content.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We'll take a non believer and a believer and
Speaker 1: see where we're add out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll end up being like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: turn into a tarot tarot Tarot tarota.
Speaker 1: The tea is silent a tarrot. All right, cal tell
Speaker 1: me about a risk that you took that paid off.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's actually an easy one. Oh when I
Speaker 2: quit my full time job. So true, that is so
Speaker 2: easy for me. I'm sure that there's way more interesting ones.
Speaker 2: But I quit my full time job because I was
Speaker 2: struggling to manage I had two podcasts at the time
Speaker 2: with Mama Mia. I was starting to do a little
Speaker 2: bit of freelance content. Creation, and I was trying to
Speaker 2: stay on top of my full time job with seventeen
Speaker 2: members under me, so not even just doing my job,
Speaker 2: but like managing a team. And I just was so
Speaker 2: burnt out and so stressed. So much has changed, and
Speaker 2: I quit one day in a very quite theatrical fashion. Yes,
Speaker 2: my last week of work paid full time was the
Speaker 2: week that everyone went into lockdown. Oh that's right, And
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking, oh, my goodness, you silly woman. Like,
Speaker 2: so my last week at work was spent letting my
Speaker 2: team go, which was really awful. Like I had one
Speaker 2: girl on the phone to me, balling her eyes out
Speaker 2: because she was like, I don't know how I'm going
Speaker 2: to pay my mortgage, Like this isn't even meant to
Speaker 2: be a deep answer. I won't go on about how
Speaker 2: awful that week was, but I just remember thinking, you fool,
Speaker 2: and you know, everything was so doom and gloom, and
Speaker 2: well we were facing.
Speaker 1: We did not know how to get through at that point.
Speaker 2: What we didn't realize, though, was that people would be
Speaker 2: looking for content. Beauty sales went through the roof for
Speaker 2: so many companies because people were like wanting to splurge
Speaker 2: and buy themselves like things to do it home. They
Speaker 2: weren't buying party dresses anymore, but they were buying like
Speaker 2: a nice candle or a nice body lotion, something that
Speaker 2: they could do at home. Yeah, actives may as well
Speaker 2: do some skin masks. So everything ended up fine, but
Speaker 2: it was a huge risk totally.
Speaker 1: And I also think just based on like you as
Speaker 1: a person, we have had a very risk adverse exactly.
Speaker 1: You've gone like straight from high school into college. You
Speaker 1: did move overseas, but it was with a boyfriend. Like
Speaker 1: You've stayed in jobs for a long period, much longer
Speaker 1: than I should have, pretty much most of my jobs.
Speaker 1: So it's for you to be like, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to quit a job that has a regular income, a
Speaker 1: good income to do this like that is a big
Speaker 1: thing for you.
Speaker 2: It's because I am so risk adverse. Such a good point.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, it's paid off, Like I'm earning mostly
Speaker 2: what more than what I would have full time, not
Speaker 2: a huge amount more. But the beauty is that I
Speaker 2: get to I don't have to manage people, which I love. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I get to choose my own projects now that
Speaker 2: I've got a kid. Being able to manage mowent hours
Speaker 2: is heaven, and I don't take it for granted. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's definitely a risk that has paid off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that it's not boring at all.
Speaker 2: Key, I'm scared share a past mistake or regret that
Speaker 2: still affects you. I hadn't want people you shouldn't have regrets. Actually,
Speaker 2: I heard you say that to Lucy and I'm waking out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, Race, everyone has.
Speaker 1: I think you can have regrets, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that you should let it control your life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: also just think about what you've learnt from it. You know,
Speaker 1: like that you still think about But that's okay because
Speaker 1: you're thinking about it in a way of like, if
Speaker 1: that happened to me, now, I'll do it differently.
Speaker 2: Every one of my huge regrets that play on my
Speaker 2: mind I have learned from because I know that I
Speaker 2: will never repeat that again.
Speaker 1: I've got one that's like not that deep, but it's
Speaker 1: something that still keeps me up at night. Gone not
Speaker 1: getting a market for the wedding. I bring it up
Speaker 1: once a week to Charlie and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: because do you know what happened? You know why I'm
Speaker 1: upset about it?
Speaker 2: That is so funny. Apologies, but that is so funny.
Speaker 2: It's barely been a year. It hasn't been a year,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is that it's like, just as we
Speaker 1: had to make the decision because we had a markete
Speaker 1: on hold, just as we had to make that decision,
Speaker 1: the lighting guys came, so they were like, we're ready
Speaker 1: to set up. But if we had have chosen the marquee,
Speaker 1: that would have fucked the lighting. So they would have
Speaker 1: had to go and then come back. Yep. And so
Speaker 1: I think, like looking at the weather report, they were
Speaker 1: there like making that decision, and then it rained. Like
Speaker 1: at the time on the day.
Speaker 2: I was he did not care, which was so good.
Speaker 1: I just was like I didn't think I'd ever make it.
Speaker 1: This sounds crazy, but like I didn't ever think I
Speaker 1: would get married. And even in the lead up to
Speaker 1: the wedding, I was like, something's going to happen. This
Speaker 1: is not like me to do something.
Speaker 2: You were like, I just thought, like I.
Speaker 1: Can't imagine me doing something very traditional, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: the car did catch on fire, so there was plenty
Speaker 1: of things that did happen, but.
Speaker 2: Drew was teething and through an absolute teang exactly.
Speaker 1: But I remember like being married and I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, I've actually done something. And I think for
Speaker 1: me it was important because I think a little bit deep,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the stuff I do in my
Speaker 1: life is to break cycles of like you know, So
Speaker 1: for me, it's like really important to like distinguish myself
Speaker 1: from like, for instance, my mum and like to have
Speaker 1: like a really healthy marriage and something I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I'd ever be able to do just because of
Speaker 1: the hardship I'd face. Like, just to me, to be
Speaker 1: married in that moment was a real accomplishment. So the
Speaker 1: fact the weather was terrible, I didn't care what it
Speaker 1: did do put the car fire out exactly exactly. But
Speaker 1: what I did find afterwards was in hindsight, was like
Speaker 1: I didn't get to get any pictures with like my
Speaker 1: friends because we went away to do our photos. So
Speaker 1: I've got wedding party photos, which is fantastic, but I
Speaker 1: like don't have any with my friends. So that makes
Speaker 1: me sad.
Speaker 2: And is that why you regret not having the marque
Speaker 2: because you don't have photos with friends? Like, just elaborate
Speaker 2: on why you regret.
Speaker 1: Just some of it was a bit disjointed while we're
Speaker 1: waiting for the rain to Like, I wonder if we
Speaker 1: had the marque, everyone would have been together with the
Speaker 1: speeches would have been sooner, everyone would have been seated
Speaker 1: for the speeches.
Speaker 2: Like it was very much so unique wedding. Yeah, even
Speaker 2: the formalities were held inside a family home. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it too. I loved it. It's just it's
Speaker 1: my silly brain.
Speaker 2: That gets silly and.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's really hard for me to even look at
Speaker 1: photos like it's it's like and then I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: probably also regarding deb Yeah, it was such a special day.
Speaker 1: I was so happy in that moment, but my brain
Speaker 1: still wants to find something to make me feel like
Speaker 1: I did something wrong or something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: that's just kind of my anxiety creeping it. But that
Speaker 1: is one that still haunts me. Like if I am
Speaker 1: having a shit week, that will be something that a market,
Speaker 1: that'll be something my brain fixates on. But how crazy
Speaker 1: is that because it's so unimportant and I know what
Speaker 1: was important about that day now more than ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just making my brain believe that over trying
Speaker 1: to torment me. Yeah, do you think there's a part
Speaker 1: of you that you've lost?
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I think everyone does. Most people do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as you get older, I think you lose a lot
Speaker 2: of just innocence, Yeah, and that beautiful naivety, innocence, ignorance
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways about different things in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think how easily and openly I could love when
Speaker 2: I was younger now just seems a lot more bogged down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think everyone would probably say that.
Speaker 1: I feel like life hardens you a little bit.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, yeah, and you look back at the
Speaker 2: person you were and you just think, yeah, I have
Speaker 2: lost a lot. However, I've also gained a lot. Like
Speaker 2: I was so self conscious as an example, so and shy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's such a good point.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, you win some you lose somebody.
Speaker 1: No, totally, I feel that. I feel that. Girl.
Speaker 2: What's something I have said to you that's made a
Speaker 2: lasting impact? Tell me, I'm wise.
Speaker 1: I think you were pretty instrumental on me going free lance,
Speaker 1: like it did benefit you because the only way we
Speaker 1: could do our pod was if I obviously.
Speaker 2: But I would have encouraged her even if you weren't
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I think you were really good at that,
Speaker 1: and I think just you and Lucy are probably the
Speaker 1: two people that tell me all the time you can
Speaker 1: do X y Z. So I think that's had a
Speaker 1: lasting impact, Like I know that you support me and
Speaker 1: encourage me and believe in me as a friend.
Speaker 2: Not a specific saying her.
Speaker 1: Not a specific. I can't think of anything and specifically
Speaker 1: maybe when you sent me a Facebook message saying you
Speaker 1: might have judged me too quickly.
Speaker 2: That was the start of our relationship, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: That stayed with me though, because for me, it's all
Speaker 1: about taking accountability of like your actions or how you've
Speaker 1: behaved or whatever. And I thought like, yeah, she's a
Speaker 1: real person, Like I can count on her because she's
Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge that she got it wrong.
Speaker 2: I can be an awful person, like I can be
Speaker 2: a bitch, but I have such accountability and I always
Speaker 2: have had, and I think it's important. Yeah I'm the
Speaker 2: first to raise my hand and say I behaved terribly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that has stayed with me. You actually reaching
Speaker 1: out and because not a lot of people would do that,
Speaker 1: would they would just like start a friendship and not
Speaker 1: acknowledge it, but you were willing to like be vulnerable
Speaker 1: in order for it to move forward. And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of almost set the blueprint for our friendship.
Speaker 2: Like we're pretty honest.
Speaker 1: Honest with each Other's so true.
Speaker 2: Most people would probably just have been like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: like we're friends now. I not ever said anything yeah,
Speaker 2: because it would have been too awkward, or I would
Speaker 2: have been like, maybe she just didn't know that I
Speaker 2: was afl Like it's hard to admit your faults, I think,
Speaker 2: but I don't quite hard. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people do find it hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do, but and sometimes when I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know I have to say something, and I'm just like.
Speaker 2: You find it hard, but it's weird because you're so
Speaker 2: hard on yourself. Like I don't think I'm hard on myself,
Speaker 2: but I'm happy to own up when i've I don't know,
Speaker 2: everyone does the wrong thing all the time. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They do, they do, they do, and it's fine. It's
Speaker 1: so fine. It's just sometimes where our worst critics. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say that because that really, I've got to
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I didn't I think about it
Speaker 1: every day. What is my worst trait?
Speaker 2: Be nice that you overthink everything and like catastrophize things,
Speaker 2: and you make things so much harder than for yourself
Speaker 2: because you do that. So it impacts every single part
Speaker 2: of your life, your professional life, your work life, your
Speaker 2: Friendship's like, you'll be at home and you'll just be like,
Speaker 2: and I can just imagine it's like the rooms closing
Speaker 2: and you're going, I haven't messaged anyone back for weeks
Speaker 2: on end. Everyone hates me. I'm a terrible friend. No
Speaker 2: one even likes me. The worlds are closing in on
Speaker 2: me instead of spending that half an hour just fucking
Speaker 2: texting people. I know, I know, but I also think
Speaker 2: you're thirty five years old, thirty six. Sorry, you're probably
Speaker 2: not going to change thing I am.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I mean it's endearing sometimes, but I think you need
Speaker 2: more self awareness about it. Just but you do. You're
Speaker 2: pretty good to be like, Oh yeah, I was really
Speaker 2: thinking that it wasn't actually a big deal.
Speaker 1: I think I just have this like big thing about
Speaker 1: disappointing people. Yeah. I don't know why. It's silly if
Speaker 1: someone were to say the same thing about themselves to.
Speaker 2: Me, I didn't even notice.
Speaker 1: You are crazy, like it doesn't matter. It's so fine
Speaker 1: like blah blah blah. Anyway, all right when I surprises there,
Speaker 1: thank god.
Speaker 2: If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who
Speaker 2: would it be and what would you ask them?
Speaker 1: Oh, that is a great question. I know, maybe with
Speaker 1: some like kind of historian to sit me down and
Speaker 1: like talk me through history, because I don't know a
Speaker 1: lot of history.
Speaker 2: But who that's.
Speaker 1: Really boring because I like things about history, like I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting. I don't know if I can answer
Speaker 1: this question in an interesting way. Who would you take?
Speaker 2: Probably Joan of Arc or some shit what was her name,
Speaker 2: Like some chick that just, you know, really fucked things
Speaker 2: up for people. But I actually don't know what i'd
Speaker 2: ask them. I'd just be like, how'd you get them balls?
Speaker 2: I don't think where this type of person that, Oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's just move on. What's my most annoying trait? You
Speaker 2: have to We'll see if I've got self awareness about this.
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 1: You do, You'll just be in a grump, and no
Speaker 1: matter what I do to try and get you out
Speaker 1: of it, you will not get out of it. And
Speaker 1: then I'm just like.
Speaker 2: Fucking hell, like, get out of your grump right now,
Speaker 2: but I can't if I'm in a grump. I'm in
Speaker 2: a grump, I know, and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Like usually the vibes are high for me if I'm
Speaker 1: coming over here, because but if I'm in a grump
Speaker 1: and I can't, and then you'll push me out the door,
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, you know.
Speaker 2: A bad mood today, But you're not like, but I
Speaker 2: feel like every single person that's close to me would
Speaker 2: say exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, completely.
Speaker 2: So it's not like you get treated special, no, I know,
Speaker 2: get treated the same for.
Speaker 1: You sometimes, Like it's always.
Speaker 2: Pushing out the door.
Speaker 1: You're always like you've got to go there.
Speaker 2: It's just one time.
Speaker 1: But you'll make it very you'll make it obvious that
Speaker 1: you're like or actually, this is a good one.
Speaker 2: When we record, Oh, when I'm bored, you can.
Speaker 1: Just go vacant, and I'm like trying to fucking keep
Speaker 1: the conversation going because we're recording a podcast.
Speaker 2: That's different, that's not grumpy, that's bored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes you have to feign interest when someone
Speaker 1: else is talking.
Speaker 2: You're good at hiding the way I feel about it.
Speaker 3: I know, did you know what I am because some
Speaker 3: of the stuff you say is boring too, But can
Speaker 3: you tell and just say shut up bored? No, because
Speaker 3: I have enough awareness to understand that even though it's maybe.
Speaker 1: Boring to me, it may be interesting to the audience
Speaker 1: or be okay for the edit you just give me
Speaker 1: blank stairs. It's almost like you're writing a message on
Speaker 1: your phone.
Speaker 2: In my head, in your head, and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm probably more like singing a song in my head, like, oh,
Speaker 2: probably this looks like good jop me. So everybody just
Speaker 2: follow me while he's going. And then I did toilet
Speaker 2: And do you know.
Speaker 1: How hard it is to keep your train of thought
Speaker 1: going when you know that you know that's the person
Speaker 1: at least time I know you.
Speaker 2: It's worse. I feel so bad when I'm like talking
Speaker 2: to someone that I've just met, Like if I'm out
Speaker 2: somewhere networking and they're just boring me to tears and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know you can see all over my
Speaker 2: face that I don't want to be in. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to feign an interest.
Speaker 1: What about that time we went to that event recently together,
Speaker 1: was in the evening and I went to lou Or
Speaker 1: to go and get my jacket from co check and
Speaker 1: I came back up and I was just like, how
Speaker 1: the do you feign interest with this conversation with this woman?
Speaker 1: He was like I was boring shit, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's the most enthused I've seen you. And probably three
Speaker 1: weeks till I went over and he goes, who were they?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know. I didn't even get
Speaker 2: an agema. And then you were just like you know why.
Speaker 2: I was five champagnes deep. I'm fine after a few drinks,
Speaker 2: I can feign in interest about anything, and I'll make
Speaker 2: friends with anyone.
Speaker 1: I couldn't you werenk pregnant. I was like, get me
Speaker 1: out of this conversation. It was like we were talking
Speaker 1: about mudel bricks or something. I was just like, this
Speaker 1: is what are we talking about? This? For?
Speaker 2: I would have made it interesting, man, I was talking
Speaker 2: about muddy slipping slides.
Speaker 1: She also wasn't giving you anything.
Speaker 2: No, no, that was what it must be like having
Speaker 2: a conversation with Yes, yeah, didn't she then faint? She
Speaker 2: did so from the boardom.
Speaker 1: She wasn't disinterested, she was dizzy, she was dehydrated. Why
Speaker 1: did your last relationship.
Speaker 2: End, romantic relationship or friendship? You know why the friendship
Speaker 2: relationship ended?
Speaker 1: Because romantic romantic?
Speaker 2: Because I moved back to Australia.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was your last relationship with proper relationship?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then I broke up with him via an email,
Speaker 2: even though we've been together for quite a while, and
Speaker 2: an email, so retro of you. Was it a long email?
Speaker 2: I didn't even have the balls to actually do it
Speaker 2: over the phone because he was still in the States,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I'm not coming back, by
Speaker 2: the way, because I flew back to go to Ashley's wedding,
Speaker 2: oh Christmas with my family. And then I just emailed
Speaker 2: him and I was like, oh, I'm not going to comfort.
Speaker 1: I've decided to stay and that means we're breaking up.
Speaker 2: Hop things are well?
Speaker 1: Was it a long email?
Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll find it for the shits and gigs?
Speaker 1: Oh, I love this. That's a good thing about breakup
Speaker 1: over emails that you've got the proof.
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm sure it'll be with an email address
Speaker 2: I still have. Yeah that one.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so funny. Should I read it?
Speaker 2: It's not that long, It's not that long.
Speaker 1: Out wait, hang on sand how long did you guys date?
Speaker 2: For three years? Moved together? Okay, yeah, the title is us.
Speaker 1: That's the subject of the emails US fuck ymail? No
Speaker 1: beating around the bush?
Speaker 2: Then no? Okay, Well I'm guessing you both I didn't
Speaker 2: even say hi. Okay, Well, I'm guessing we both feel
Speaker 2: the same way. Given the mutual distance slash, lack of contact, etc.
Speaker 2: Do do we both know it's over? I honestly had
Speaker 2: every intent of coming back and trying to make it work.
Speaker 2: But after less than a week back home, I felt
Speaker 2: like I was coming back to life. I was me again.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I actually do understand that though.
Speaker 2: I'm actually glad we put this conversation off, though, because
Speaker 2: to begin with, I was so mad, and that's so
Speaker 2: unfair because it takes two. I'm dying now. I feel sad,
Speaker 2: sad that I'm no longer going to see my best
Speaker 2: friend every day, the best friend who loves puppies and
Speaker 2: my column bear dance interpretation.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: I hope we will still be friends. I will always
Speaker 2: be there for you and I want to be your friend.
Speaker 2: How many times can you say friend? I don't regret
Speaker 2: a moment we had together and even though our relationship
Speaker 2: was tumultuous at the best of times, it was filled
Speaker 2: with so much love, friendship and fun. It is for
Speaker 2: these reasons that I hope we can be friendly. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. Call you want to be friends and
Speaker 2: not let this get hetty or horrible. There's no one else.
Speaker 2: For the first time in my life, I'm not relying
Speaker 2: or having a man in my life. Oh and it
Speaker 2: feels weird but liberating. Okay, I'm going to use this
Speaker 2: time to just look after me and concentrate on my
Speaker 2: career and mental health. I would really appreciate an email
Speaker 2: telling me how you've been feeling as sad as I
Speaker 2: think this is. I think we're on the same page
Speaker 2: because you certainly haven't seemed to miss having me around. Huh. No,
Speaker 2: horrid feelings, not that I care. Love always your clee
Speaker 2: who that was cringe many l that you read that out.
Speaker 2: I'm nothing if not able to giggle at myself, and
Speaker 2: I just gave myself the yick in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: Guess what plot twists. We're not friends. We never were
Speaker 2: refused to send to me my box.
Speaker 1: What was in your box?
Speaker 2: My shit that I bought in America.
Speaker 1: That's really rude.
Speaker 2: Oh so much, JA, if you're listening, I really don't
Speaker 2: think he would be you.
Speaker 1: Did he write back? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you want to up the cringe?
Speaker 1: Go on, man, this is so juicy.
Speaker 2: I was genuinely and deeply in love with you. Oh
Speaker 2: your amazing eyes, Oh your friendship. Oh you are adorable.
Speaker 2: I would very much like to stay friends for life.
Speaker 2: I do not regret anything. To be brutally honest, I
Speaker 2: certainly missed Grace during earlier parts of our relationship than
Speaker 2: anything that was his ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1: But I'm over here it feels like maybe you're not
Speaker 1: we're breaking up when you're bringing up Grace.
Speaker 2: Sarah. Now i'm reading this, I'm like, oh, you will
Speaker 2: always be my big booty cutie cleat see big booty.
Speaker 2: See I used to have.
Speaker 1: A booty, I don't believe.
Speaker 2: And then I will not air dirty laundry. And I
Speaker 2: hope that you choose not to too. Literally, eleven years later,
Speaker 2: I'm reading this on now. I also hope your parents
Speaker 2: don't hate me, sad face.
Speaker 1: Why are people always so concerned about the parents. It's like,
Speaker 1: of course, second, I hate you.
Speaker 2: Also, I went out for dinner with his mom. Like
Speaker 2: a week later, we had a great and she was like,
Speaker 2: I'm very upset that you're not going to be my
Speaker 2: daughter in law. I never worried about the parents. I'm
Speaker 2: still friendly with them. I'm still message mother. It's boyfriend's
Speaker 2: mum all the time anyway. Lol.
Speaker 1: So reason was I moved back and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back. Kind of warm here, mum, stay,
Speaker 1: I think you still love with these ex girlfriends. Grace
Speaker 1: wherever you are.
Speaker 2: Oh Grace, if you're listening, don't think Jay ever got
Speaker 2: over you. Would you survive a zombie apocalypse?
Speaker 1: I think I would. One of my girlfriends shout out
Speaker 1: Laura Brodneck. I think she listens.
Speaker 2: Swears that I wouldn't. Yeah, you absolutely wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I think that is.
Speaker 1: Rude for you to say. Okay, I think I'd be
Speaker 1: one of those people that, like you see their character
Speaker 1: arc and you see them from like they're like this
Speaker 1: person who doesn't like camping or.
Speaker 2: The after me five reasons why you would survive a
Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse, and then I'll give you five minutes of
Speaker 2: you dying by the zombies. What would happen in the
Speaker 2: first five minutes?
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'd struggle because I'd probably have to
Speaker 1: eat gluten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be see the zombies would get you while
Speaker 2: you shit in your pants.
Speaker 1: Laura was like, on account of your intolerances, you would
Speaker 1: die in the first week. Yeah, I'm like, no, it's
Speaker 1: all candy.
Speaker 2: You're shitting.
Speaker 1: No, you can't, but it's I don't poop is the issue?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that would slow you down because you'd be
Speaker 2: full of five killers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But I reckon, I'm small, I'm quick, I'm smart.
Speaker 1: I could be like people need people to cook and
Speaker 1: zombie poms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you take so long.
Speaker 5: I don't, and you're a bad problem so far.
Speaker 1: I'm not about with common sense.
Speaker 2: So you would be like, oh, and then you overthink everything,
Speaker 2: so you'd go.
Speaker 4: Oh, I ten minutes later you'd be going, ah, I
Speaker 4: am taking great offense, and then you take to put
Speaker 4: the meal.
Speaker 1: No, I would survive, hands down. I would survive. I
Speaker 1: would survive.
Speaker 5: You're small and nimble. That's what you've got going on
Speaker 5: exactly exactly smart, but questionable logical skills when it comes
Speaker 5: to like doing things.
Speaker 1: I also just wonder if I'd have the courage to
Speaker 1: like run out and kill a zombie. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 2: I just feel like you'd be gasping with someone inside
Speaker 2: and going, oh my god, I just got my brains done,
Speaker 2: Like I don't really want to go out there. What
Speaker 2: if they get mud in them?
Speaker 1: My strength would be and like considering factors when we
Speaker 1: had to like, okay, we could happen. Like I think
Speaker 1: I'd be great on like a board, a board of
Speaker 1: like the zombie apocalypse, like making decisions for people. I
Speaker 1: think i'd be good in like a manager.
Speaker 2: You don't think that you'd like overthink every question or do.
Speaker 1: You need someone to think? You need someone to explore
Speaker 1: the things and mate.
Speaker 2: What if they were like key, this is a life
Speaker 2: or death situation and you have to tell us in
Speaker 2: thirty seconds what we should do. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: back to you and find by business days after I've
Speaker 2: like talked it over with several people for hours at
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 1: Look, it's true, it's true. What's a compliment that you
Speaker 1: still remember? Oh, it's a good one.
Speaker 2: We played a compliments game in Europe when I was
Speaker 2: there a long time ago, and I had the compliments
Speaker 2: written down, so I just will pick my favorite out
Speaker 2: of them and.
Speaker 1: Tell you, Oh, that's very convenient because.
Speaker 2: The other other can't really remember. Okay, So I think
Speaker 2: that one that I really love was my friend Jamie Goyce,
Speaker 2: who is married to my girlfriend Kimmella with all the babies.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: He told me that my capacity to accept criticism and
Speaker 2: adapt slash change. I'm always willing to improve myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that that it's a lovely.
Speaker 2: Compliment, and especially for like Luke's best friend to say
Speaker 2: about me so nice.
Speaker 1: It's really nice.
Speaker 2: I know. I stard written down in my book with
Speaker 2: all my things.
Speaker 1: That I like to it's very good that you do that.
Speaker 2: Bear grills, storms make us stronger. Don't shay away from
Speaker 2: the battle, be focused and be bold.
Speaker 1: Was that from two thousand and eight as well.
Speaker 2: No, I will write stuff in there oly time.
Speaker 1: Oh, what is.
Speaker 2: The biggest misunderstanding about me in people's eyes? Like if
Speaker 2: someone didn't know.
Speaker 1: Me that well, I think it will be that you're
Speaker 1: not smart. Oh, I think people think that you're a
Speaker 1: bit dumb for some reason. And it's like, no, she's just.
Speaker 2: A bit of a bogan, Like she's a bit of
Speaker 2: a bogan very ditzy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, as in, like you're just not
Speaker 1: always thinking deeply about something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can't be bothering.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, But it's not for lack of like intelligence.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it might be.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends if it's boring or not bored. I'm bored,
Speaker 1: so I don't care, which is actually kind of nice.
Speaker 2: I don't fake it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm aware what about you is easy to love.
Speaker 2: I take my sense of humor, like, just when I'm
Speaker 2: excited about something, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: Ye, genuinely excited too. Yeah, like you think it's not genuine,
Speaker 1: but that's how excited you are that it feels not genuine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're so overly excited.
Speaker 2: I'm very enthusiastic when needs be. Oh sorry, yeah, grumping.
Speaker 2: And I've got a pretty hilarious sense of humor if
Speaker 2: I do say so. My s which I think would
Speaker 2: be easy for people to love, yeah, or just think
Speaker 2: is wildly unhinged. I agree. What's the quickest way someone
Speaker 2: can lose your trust? I giggled when I said that,
Speaker 2: because he is notoriously like, Oh, you fucked me over it,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hold a grudge, that's for sure. I
Speaker 1: think it's just being shady or like disingenuine or just
Speaker 1: or competitive, like I hate when people are competitive for
Speaker 1: no reason. It's like there's enough room for everyone to
Speaker 1: do well. Yeah, but you'll lose me at like being snobby.
Speaker 2: Given that's why I didn't like you, and I I.
Speaker 1: Think that, Yeah, it could be interpreted that I am snobby,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually not. Just I'm like, I think I'm
Speaker 1: just very close because it takes me a minute to
Speaker 1: like make sure that someone is you know that I
Speaker 1: should be close friends with them or whatever. But I
Speaker 1: think people lose me if they're snobby, if they're casually racist,
Speaker 1: which happens more often than not anytime someone like punches down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is losing me, yes, very quickly.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's pretty standard reason I think we
Speaker 1: should all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, But I actually really like it about you though,
Speaker 2: because you're very loyal. But yeah, fuck you over and
Speaker 2: no one can come back from that, well no whereas
Speaker 2: I really I feel like I'm pretty loosey goosey. I'm
Speaker 2: just like, oh, come back, I know, which is why
Speaker 2: weird because I'm a grump.
Speaker 1: Also that saying like, if someone shows you who they are,
Speaker 1: believe them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh, okay, I will already know. I
Speaker 1: don't need you.
Speaker 2: To I don't know. Yeah, I think I probably give
Speaker 2: people the men of the doubt more than people realize,
Speaker 2: Like I'll always be like, oh, surely they're not that bad.
Speaker 1: I can pretty much figure out who someone is the
Speaker 1: first time of meeting them. I can just telling the
Speaker 1: way someone moves and the questions they ask. The you
Speaker 1: can tell so they treat pretension, yeah, but also by
Speaker 1: the types of questions they asked, Like what do they
Speaker 1: actually think it's important to ask you to get to
Speaker 1: know you.
Speaker 2: If someone asked me what I do for work straight away,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're a boring person, yeah, because that's the
Speaker 2: least interesting thing about me. Ask me something like this,
Speaker 2: what keeps you up at night? I would love that.
Speaker 2: I asked a girl once if she was hungover, because
Speaker 2: her hair looked so shit. It's a great intro.
Speaker 1: You can't ask that.
Speaker 2: It was very messy. She was wearing a hungoverdue you
Speaker 2: know what out Yeah, we're friends now. I was like
Speaker 2: you hungover? Yeah, I was like, you've got the hungover hair.
Speaker 2: Going on sis partied last night? Would you do? And
Speaker 2: she was looking at me a little bit gobsmacked, like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe this girl's just introduced herself by commenting
Speaker 2: on my messy hair. Well, you know what, we're friendly.
Speaker 1: That's actually quite nice, all right, all right? Which of
Speaker 1: your parents? Oh, this is glad you got this one,
Speaker 1: not me. Which of your parents are you closest to?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 2: That one's very hard because I would tell my mom more.
Speaker 2: But I would call my dad if I was in
Speaker 2: a pickle. In fact, my dad is the first person
Speaker 2: I will call when I'm in a pickle.
Speaker 1: You know what I thought was interesting? And this is
Speaker 1: a more of a me thing because well, I guess no,
Speaker 1: because my granddad was my main person. But like when
Speaker 1: you had your medical thing, Ah, but your dad is
Speaker 1: a medical professional. But I did think it was like
Speaker 1: surprising that your dad would come over your mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't want my mom to come to
Speaker 2: anything like that. She's very similar to my sister. She's
Speaker 2: very emotional, and my dad is very pragmatic, very to
Speaker 2: the point Stern has a laugh about everything. My dad
Speaker 2: and me have exactly the same personality. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: I'm very similar to him. That makes sense as to
Speaker 2: why you wouldn't necessarily tell him more stuff because you
Speaker 2: know that he's going to give you straight answers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whereas your mom might be a bit softer in her approach.
Speaker 1: Or just different. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thats like he absolutely will tell me when I'm
Speaker 2: being a ship person or whatever, like he's whereas Mom's
Speaker 2: like she's not being a ship person. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: i am. Yeah, so it's kind of hard like they've
Speaker 2: got different Yeah, but that's nice. And I can also
Speaker 2: like just sit with my dad in silence, whereas my
Speaker 2: mom's a yappa.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well so so I am, but not all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm a grumpy I just want to sit in silence
Speaker 2: a lot. My mom and my sister are the same person,
Speaker 2: and my dad are the same person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then where does your brother sit?
Speaker 2: My brother's just a rogue piece.
Speaker 1: Of way, isn't he a brother?
Speaker 2: I saw him the other day and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: where have you? And Cat Beanie's girlfriend they went like
Speaker 2: tree swinging on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: You know, when I remember your a brother is every
Speaker 1: year at Christmas when you guys drink, you're Slovakia. Yeah, yeah, Astravia.
Speaker 1: There they are, there, they are.
Speaker 2: We see them at Christmas time, even though they live
Speaker 2: twenty minutes away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I asked him.
Speaker 2: The other day was his birthday and I had a
Speaker 2: gift for him and he lives twenty minutes away, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Lenny and I can come over on
Speaker 2: Friday morning. Lenny wants to see your motorbikes and auldroprovo
Speaker 2: your present, and he's like, no, I'm studying. Okay, what
Speaker 2: is the one place you've always dreamed of going to?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: This is You're probably there at the moment. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm actually ticking off one of
Speaker 1: my big ones on this trip, which I'm so excited about. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're Pulia in Italy.
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice on.
Speaker 1: The east coast of Italy, right down the bottom and
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful, like just a really different part of Italy.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been to places that are quite
Speaker 1: similar and they're like Italian feel and Pulia is just
Speaker 1: a little bit different.
Speaker 2: So is it busy generally or is it less not?
Speaker 1: I think it's gotten quite known in the past few years.
Speaker 2: But I think I said everyone goes to now Pofino
Speaker 2: or oh.
Speaker 1: Aino Malfi Coast. I don't think it would be as
Speaker 1: busy as a Maufi. I think it's kind of like
Speaker 1: the cheaper or just like less millionaires populate area. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But one place I'd like to do is like something
Speaker 1: like the Amazon or cool something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: like I'd love to do a safari in Africa. That's
Speaker 1: like one of our things that Charlie and I would
Speaker 1: like to.
Speaker 2: I grew would love that. That's so a kid friendly
Speaker 2: love that maybe not kid friendly if they run off
Speaker 2: with the lions, but like no, you can do.
Speaker 1: Like family one and stuff. And Charlie has a lot
Speaker 1: of South African mates who we are very close with
Speaker 1: that he met like when he was backpacking and still
Speaker 1: to this day are really good mates because it moved
Speaker 1: to Sydney and so we're friends with them and they
Speaker 1: go back usually for Christmas each year, and they've invited
Speaker 1: us a bunch of times. So in the next like
Speaker 1: you know, five years, will definitely go.
Speaker 2: Can you go to Africa anytime of year?
Speaker 1: I think it's hot all year round.
Speaker 2: That's sorry, That's what I mean. Like you you know
Speaker 2: you don't want to go to We could go to
Speaker 2: Italy in winter, but it would not Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be as good. No, I'm pretty sure Africa's
Speaker 1: pretty warm all year round. It would be pretty cool
Speaker 1: just to either like the Amazon or Africa, just somewhere
Speaker 1: really different and a bit remote and not like I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're getting a completely different experience. Yeah're
Speaker 1: seeing things you've never seen before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you a good gift giver?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? No?
Speaker 1: Oh are you not?
Speaker 2: I am awful at gift giving so bad I forget
Speaker 2: half the time. A couple of months ago, I was
Speaker 2: doing a big clean out of the garage and I
Speaker 2: found a wedding card that I'd written to someone like
Speaker 2: happy wedding guys, love you so much, blah blah blahbah.
Speaker 2: I didn't have names on it. I just was like,
Speaker 2: so excited to be here, Love Kelly and Luke with
Speaker 2: cash in it.
Speaker 1: Did you an even work out who it was?
Speaker 2: No, So there's someone in the world who thinks that
Speaker 2: I didn't even get them a bloody card, let alone
Speaker 2: contribute to the wishing well.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna get a message after this episode goes
Speaker 1: out like it.
Speaker 2: Was, everyone will be like, oh it was me, you
Speaker 2: owe me three hundred bucks. I just I'm awful at gifts.
Speaker 2: Like I've got gifts in this garage for so many
Speaker 2: people that I've just never wrapped and never given them.
Speaker 2: That box over there that is Sandy's birthday gift. Her
Speaker 2: birthday was in May.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to give that to her.
Speaker 2: It's surprising that you gifts because I'm thoughtful. I'm not
Speaker 2: good at gifts, but I'm thoughtful, so I'll do other things. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to specific dates, honestly, just truly awful.
Speaker 1: Wow, I can't relate. I'm really good at gifts. You are.
Speaker 2: I really remember Lenny's birthday gift last year was so
Speaker 2: good to start. He loved it. Do you think that
Speaker 2: everyone deserves a second chance.
Speaker 1: I don't think everyone blanket all. No. I think that
Speaker 1: depending on the circumstances, the level of like deceit or
Speaker 1: level of mistake that's been had, the level of like
Speaker 1: actual feeling bad, like remorse for what someone's done. But no,
Speaker 1: I'm more lean towards no than yes. I think. But
Speaker 1: I have to consider all things. Okay, I think, like
Speaker 1: where I find a really hard line would be with
Speaker 1: like cheating, and I think that like a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, there's degrees of cheating that would
Speaker 1: be okay or understood or but for me, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: like no, not very white and black though, Like we've
Speaker 1: sort of discussed with like breaking your trust, that's a
Speaker 1: big thing for me. It's like I would never be
Speaker 1: able to trust you again.
Speaker 2: What if Charlie was really drunk out with his work
Speaker 2: friends and pashed someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be okay with that.
Speaker 2: No, I know you wouldn't be okay with it, But
Speaker 2: could you seriously not get past that?
Speaker 1: No, because like it would be like to me that
Speaker 1: that behavior has been allowed. But I do not judge
Speaker 1: anyone else who can move past that and go on
Speaker 1: to have like a beautiful life with their partner. But
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, don't waste my time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to be with someone who I trust one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: and I do with him. Yeah, I trust him one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And I've said to him, if you ever
Speaker 1: cheat on me, I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: I can kill you.
Speaker 1: I won't kill him, I'll just you know. It's a
Speaker 1: hard line for me as it is for him. He's
Speaker 1: not a fan of cheating either, So.
Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't unless you're in a polyamorous relationship.
Speaker 2: I really don't think anyone's okay with cheating, but I think.
Speaker 1: Some people are okay with a pass or whatever. I
Speaker 1: do think that that's something that people accept as being okay.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a slippery slow yeah, because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, how far can you push it?
Speaker 2: What's something you're really bad at dancing?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm still easy?
Speaker 2: That one's so easy?
Speaker 1: Anything like coordinated?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He used to think that I pretended to
Speaker 2: be bad to be funny, and then she got to
Speaker 2: know me and was like, oh no, she's actually just
Speaker 2: that uncoordinated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was disappointing to find that art. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're out of wedding seasons so I
Speaker 1: don't have to Well.
Speaker 2: I don't even dance, do I, because I don't enjoy
Speaker 2: the art of such an activity, So I just loiter
Speaker 2: it the periphial filming.
Speaker 1: Like, it looks like you feel.
Speaker 2: As uncomfortable as I. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am
Speaker 2: not comfortable in that sort of a situation at home.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to have a dance. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know I dated like that exit I dated
Speaker 1: for like a decade. He didn't dance, and it was
Speaker 1: really something that I thought I didn't care about. But
Speaker 1: then on the first night that like Charlie and I.
Speaker 2: Like, you danced on the first night, yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: we were.
Speaker 1: At this like a Moroccan party, and then we went
Speaker 1: back to a house party and we'll there's like a
Speaker 1: d floor in the living room and we dance like
Speaker 1: so much dancer. It's such a good dancer.
Speaker 2: He's got rhythms.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: I feel like it'd be a daggy, dorky dancer.
Speaker 1: And I just loved it. I loved it so much,
Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck, this is what I've been missing.
Speaker 1: Someone to dance with me because I love dancing. I
Speaker 1: don't care what I look like. And we always go
Speaker 1: to gigs all the time and we like, I'm dancing
Speaker 1: and he's like, right, they're dancing with me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so fucking fun, Like this is what I want
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: It's not that I think that I look silly. I
Speaker 2: mean I do, though, but it's just the way that
Speaker 2: I feel I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fair, I think it's good to have that awareness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is the end of our little holiday
Speaker 2: strange editions. We're going to have a little two week
Speaker 2: break so he can enjoy her Mediterranean adventure. But in
Speaker 2: the meantime you can catch up on old episodes. I
Speaker 2: do have a recommendation, Yes, I saw you had two
Speaker 2: in the didn't you please? If you can donate blood
Speaker 2: and breast milk. So a lot of people mainly think
Speaker 2: of donated blood in the context of like a first
Speaker 2: responder emergency, but as this lovely lass Hannah who works
Speaker 2: at Life Blood Australia pointed out, it has so many
Speaker 2: other life saving uses. Like when I had a blood
Speaker 2: transfusion after Lenny. Yeah, it was very gross at the
Speaker 2: time because I hate blood and that sort of thing,
Speaker 2: and the idea of someone else's blood going into my body.
Speaker 2: I was just like yuck. But it literally Actually I
Speaker 2: probably would have lived, to be fair, but I would
Speaker 2: have been a lot sicker for a lot longer. I
Speaker 2: think that people do forget that we rely on donors
Speaker 2: to keep the blood replenished. So one blood donation is
Speaker 2: needed every eighteen seconds in Australia, so a donor is
Speaker 2: needed every four minutes and that just doesn't happen. So
Speaker 2: if you can, there are obviously some rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some rules, like.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be able to do at the moment because
Speaker 2: you're Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 1: If you've had a tattoo, you can't donate blood in
Speaker 1: the twelve months after you have it.
Speaker 2: Two four months, oh fave months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: I can't because of my heart thing because I collapse.
Speaker 2: But if you can, it is a great thing to
Speaker 2: be able to do. Plus lifeblood also collects donated breast milk.
Speaker 2: What made me think of this as my girlfriend with
Speaker 2: literally entire freezer full of breast milk because she's just
Speaker 2: been pumping, pumping away. You can only keep that for
Speaker 2: three months, So if it's about to go off and
Speaker 2: you're not gonna use it, please donate it. Because a
Speaker 2: high amount of mothers with premi babies actually need that
Speaker 2: feeding support because they've babies need to gain weight as
Speaker 2: quick as possible and the antibodies and their own supply
Speaker 2: hasn't been established yet.
Speaker 1: So the other really cool thing about donating blood, Charlie's
Speaker 1: been a regular blood donated. Oh that's so good. When
Speaker 1: it was eighteen, So he goes all the time. He
Speaker 1: also donates plasma because he's just like a crazy person.
Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so good.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm going to get free stuff as well.
Speaker 2: You get like a milkshake and cookies and stuff.
Speaker 1: You have some frogs. But he will often get a
Speaker 1: text message and saying like hey, your blood save the
Speaker 1: life of XYZ person. They don't give too many details.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's so nice, Q nice. It's like a
Speaker 1: nice little thing. I think a remind encouragement for people, like, hey,
Speaker 1: what you're doing is in vein like it's actually making real.
Speaker 2: Because it is. I looked at that bag of blood
Speaker 2: going into me. It's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: So I just thought that's a recommendation slash reminder. But
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us today. And we'll
Speaker 2: be back in your ears in a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: with a phenomenal season five.
Speaker 1: We've got some excellent topics coming up. We're really closing
Speaker 1: out the ears with a bang, so make sure you
Speaker 1: get excited for that. This episode, though it was produced
Speaker 1: by us he Resells and Kelly mccaren, with audio production
Speaker 1: by Madeline Joanna, the lovely Madeline Joanna who she hears
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: She tells that poor or last, poor, last, Bye Bye,