WEBVTT - That Snarky Open Letter To Miley Cyrus [throw back]

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<v Speaker 1>Canceled this year. Today's subject is Miley Cyrus. Miley was

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<v Speaker 1>a Disney star almost twenty years ago. She played Hannah Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then she has faced her fair share of controversy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a weird tongue thing at the VMA's swinging

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<v Speaker 1>on a wrecking ball and saying drugs are for idiots

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<v Speaker 1>and then doing some drugs. We've looked into her whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a big episode on Miley right after she

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<v Speaker 1>won her first Grammy in February this year, and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to hear about is our favorite moment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about an open letter Miley received just after her iconic

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<v Speaker 1>VMA's performance, an open letter from Snead O'Connor claire. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you work so hard that Shaneade must say something. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a singer of nothing compares to you, and she

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<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to publish an open letter about Miley that

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<v Speaker 1>she would post on the Internet for everyone to read.

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<v Speaker 1>This was also in twenty thirteen, So we've got VMA's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was. In the weeks afterwards, she releases

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<v Speaker 1>Wrecking Ball. I came in like good and banger another

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<v Speaker 1>absolute banger. I look back, I go the film clip

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of fun. Why do we all have

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<v Speaker 1>our panties and or not? She was naked on a ball,

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<v Speaker 1>It's great, loved her hair anyway. In that time she'd

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<v Speaker 1>also done the Rolling Stone story about how much she

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<v Speaker 1>loved the drugs. Here are some excerpts from Shaneade. She

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<v Speaker 1>did say at the beginning, this came from motherly place,

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<v Speaker 1>so important context. I am extremely concerned for you that

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<v Speaker 1>those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>you in your own belief that it is in any

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<v Speaker 1>way cool to be naked and licking sledge hammers and videos. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>really did she say the sledgehammer bit? Yeah, yep, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. It is in fact the case that you

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<v Speaker 1>will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's the music business or yourself doing the pimping.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes on, the music business doesn't give a shit

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<v Speaker 1>about you or any of us. They will prostitute you

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<v Speaker 1>for all you are worth and cleverly make you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you wanted. And when you end up in

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<v Speaker 1>rehab as a result of being prostituted, they will be

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<v Speaker 1>sunning themselves on their yachts in antiqua, which they bought

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<v Speaker 1>by selling your body, and you will find yourself very alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to

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<v Speaker 1>your peers that they and you are worth more than

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<v Speaker 1>what is currently going on in your career. Miley was

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<v Speaker 1>very mature in her response. She wasn't. She wasn't. She

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<v Speaker 1>got on Twitter and she said, Shanaide, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time to write you an open letter because I'm hosting

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<v Speaker 1>and performing on SNL this week. She then compared Shanaid

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<v Speaker 1>to Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bynes was having a rough time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she screenshot a tweet where Shanade had talked

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<v Speaker 1>about her mental health and where it was clear that

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<v Speaker 1>she was, you know, in a low moment. Shanaide replied.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Miley replied, and there was a lot of back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, and in the meantime, Robin was in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner humping while his mother got angry at any woman

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<v Speaker 1>who walked past hump. Okay, what I will say about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing the Shanade O'Connor letter at the time

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<v Speaker 1>and agreeing with it. Okay, I think I was a

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<v Speaker 1>prude in twenty thirteen. Yeah, we were all prused in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen. But here's what I'll say about shanaid it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really enlightening letter, and I thought about why she

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<v Speaker 1>made it open and not closed, and I think she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to convey something not just to Miley, but

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<v Speaker 1>to the culture at the time, which is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a product and a machine. It's being made by

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<v Speaker 1>men behind the scenes. So it was like she was

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed for Miley, and she kind of wanted to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>She had some good points about people profiting off your body.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the word prostitute wage man. Yeah, no, no, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>was inappropriate. I liked the detail about antiquity. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did like that she had some points, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the twenty twenty four version of that is it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not an open letter to Miley. Yeah, it's bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than that, And when you look back, it seems absurd

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<v Speaker 1>that a woman was speaking down to another one about

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<v Speaker 1>how she was presenting herse Miley was fine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I understand Miley's defensiveness as well. Yeah, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there a celebrity who when she did that? Twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>BMA's performance said something about like, don't stick your tongue

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<v Speaker 1>out when it's coated. I've always thought about that because

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<v Speaker 1>she quoted yeah and drugs. No, it's sort of had

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<v Speaker 1>like a white coating. Oh no, maybe she had her

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<v Speaker 1>thrush Yeah, well okay, I found it. So Cher told

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<v Speaker 1>USA today, I'm not old fashioned about Miley. She could

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<v Speaker 1>have come out naked, and if she just rocked the house,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have said, you go girl. It just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>done well. She can't dance. Her body looked like hell,

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<v Speaker 1>the song wasn't great. One cheek was hanging out, and chick,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stick out your tongue if it's coated. I'm sure bitch. Yes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was all this discussion and there were all these

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<v Speaker 1>articles about why was her tongue coded. One was apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've recently taken antibioty, then it's like killed the

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<v Speaker 1>good bacteria or something. Well, isn't that when you get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit thrushy? Yeah? I think you get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit thrushy. So she needed a probiotic, Yes, that is

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<v Speaker 1>what she is saying. Is it defamation to suggest someone

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<v Speaker 1>has oral thrush um? Yeah. So then Chare's comments went

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<v Speaker 1>viral and she clearly felt a little bit guilty for

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<v Speaker 1>accusing a woman of having oral tsh. Yeah, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little ashamed. I didn't keep my big opinionated

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<v Speaker 1>mouth shut. What I should have said is I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the performance that much, but she's pushing the envelope

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<v Speaker 1>being an artist. She's talented and didn't commit a felony.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she really was a bit like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I said that about the tongue. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>believe in holding yourself? Yeah, the tongue. But the second

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<v Speaker 1>bit said to clarify, I hated the performance, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, no, we got that, Yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 1>the hated it. To listen to that entire episode, just

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