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Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Hello, and welcome to Canceled, The

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Speaker 1: Lazy Girl's Guide to bizarre celebrity cancelations. We hope you're

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Speaker 1: at mm Maya will have brand new episodes about the

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Speaker 1: topics we couldn't stop talking about this year. But first,

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Speaker 1: also know that you're feeling particularly lazy right now because

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Speaker 1: it's holidays. You're not meant to have to do anything.

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Speaker 1: We know you need things to be simple and easy,

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Speaker 1: so we're giving you some of our favorite moments from

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Speaker 1: Canceled this year. Today's subject is Miley Cyrus. Miley was

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Speaker 1: a Disney star almost twenty years ago. She played Hannah Montana,

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Speaker 1: and since then she has faced her fair share of controversy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there was a weird tongue thing at the VMA's swinging

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Speaker 1: on a wrecking ball and saying drugs are for idiots

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Speaker 1: and then doing some drugs. We've looked into her whole life.

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Speaker 1: We did a big episode on Miley right after she

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Speaker 1: won her first Grammy in February this year, and what

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Speaker 1: you're about to hear about is our favorite moment. It's

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Speaker 1: about an open letter Miley received just after her iconic

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Speaker 1: VMA's performance, an open letter from Snead O'Connor claire. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you work so hard that Shaneade must say something. She

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Speaker 1: is a singer of nothing compares to you, and she

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Speaker 1: felt compelled to publish an open letter about Miley that

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Speaker 1: she would post on the Internet for everyone to read.

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Speaker 1: This was also in twenty thirteen, So we've got VMA's

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Speaker 1: I think it was. In the weeks afterwards, she releases

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Speaker 1: Wrecking Ball. I came in like good and banger another

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Speaker 1: absolute banger. I look back, I go the film clip

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Speaker 1: was a bit of fun. Why do we all have

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Speaker 1: our panties and or not? She was naked on a ball,

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Speaker 1: It's great, loved her hair anyway. In that time she'd

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Speaker 1: also done the Rolling Stone story about how much she

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Speaker 1: loved the drugs. Here are some excerpts from Shaneade. She

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Speaker 1: did say at the beginning, this came from motherly place,

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Speaker 1: so important context. I am extremely concerned for you that

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Speaker 1: those around you have led you to believe, or encouraged

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Speaker 1: you in your own belief that it is in any

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Speaker 1: way cool to be naked and licking sledge hammers and videos. Wait,

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Speaker 1: really did she say the sledgehammer bit? Yeah, yep, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. It is in fact the case that you

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Speaker 1: will obscure your talent by allowing yourself to be pimped,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the music business or yourself doing the pimping.

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Speaker 1: She goes on, the music business doesn't give a shit

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Speaker 1: about you or any of us. They will prostitute you

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Speaker 1: for all you are worth and cleverly make you think

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Speaker 1: it's what you wanted. And when you end up in

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Speaker 1: rehab as a result of being prostituted, they will be

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Speaker 1: sunning themselves on their yachts in antiqua, which they bought

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Speaker 1: by selling your body, and you will find yourself very alone.

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Speaker 1: I would be encouraging you to send healthier messages to

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Speaker 1: your peers that they and you are worth more than

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Speaker 1: what is currently going on in your career. Miley was

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Speaker 1: very mature in her response. She wasn't. She wasn't. She

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Speaker 1: got on Twitter and she said, Shanaide, I don't have

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Speaker 1: time to write you an open letter because I'm hosting

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Speaker 1: and performing on SNL this week. She then compared Shanaid

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Speaker 1: to Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bynes was having a rough time,

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Speaker 1: and then she screenshot a tweet where Shanade had talked

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Speaker 1: about her mental health and where it was clear that

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Speaker 1: she was, you know, in a low moment. Shanaide replied.

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Speaker 1: Then Miley replied, and there was a lot of back

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Speaker 1: and forth, and in the meantime, Robin was in the

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Speaker 1: corner humping while his mother got angry at any woman

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Speaker 1: who walked past hump. Okay, what I will say about this.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing the Shanade O'Connor letter at the time

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Speaker 1: prude in twenty thirteen. Yeah, we were all prused in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But here's what I'll say about shanaid it's

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Speaker 1: a really enlightening letter, and I thought about why she

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Speaker 1: She had some good points about people profiting off your body.

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Speaker 1: She's the word prostitute wage man. Yeah, no, no, no, it

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Speaker 1: was inappropriate. I liked the detail about antiquity. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: did like that she had some points, But I think

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Speaker 1: maybe the twenty twenty four version of that is it's

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Speaker 1: actually not an open letter to Miley. Yeah, it's bigger

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Speaker 1: than that, And when you look back, it seems absurd

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Speaker 1: how she was presenting herse Miley was fine, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like I understand Miley's defensiveness as well. Yeah, wasn't

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Speaker 1: there a celebrity who when she did that? Twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: BMA's performance said something about like, don't stick your tongue

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Speaker 1: out when it's coated. I've always thought about that because

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Speaker 1: like a white coating. Oh no, maybe she had her

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Speaker 1: thrush Yeah, well okay, I found it. So Cher told

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Speaker 1: USA today, I'm not old fashioned about Miley. She could

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Speaker 1: have come out naked, and if she just rocked the house,

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Speaker 1: I would have said, you go girl. It just wasn't

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Speaker 1: done well. She can't dance. Her body looked like hell,

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Speaker 1: the song wasn't great. One cheek was hanging out, and chick,

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Speaker 1: don't stick out your tongue if it's coated. I'm sure bitch. Yes. Now,

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Speaker 1: there was all this discussion and there were all these

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Speaker 1: articles about why was her tongue coded. One was apparently,

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Speaker 1: if you've recently taken antibioty, then it's like killed the

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Speaker 1: good bacteria or something. Well, isn't that when you get

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Speaker 1: a bit thrushy? Yeah? I think you get a little

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Speaker 1: bit thrushy. So she needed a probiotic, Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: what she is saying. Is it defamation to suggest someone

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Speaker 1: has oral thrush um? Yeah. So then Chare's comments went

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Speaker 1: accusing a woman of having oral tsh. Yeah, and she said,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little ashamed. I didn't keep my big opinionated

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Speaker 1: like the performance that much, but she's pushing the envelope

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Speaker 1: being an artist. She's talented and didn't commit a felony.

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Speaker 1: I think she really was a bit like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I said that about the tongue. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe in holding yourself? Yeah, the tongue. But the second

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Speaker 1: was like, no, no, we got that, Yeah, we got

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