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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amoma Meir podcast.

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Speaker 2: Here's the Australia Going to war.

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Speaker 3: We are not taking offensive action against Iran and we

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Speaker 3: are not deploying Australian troops on the ground in Iran.

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Speaker 3: Australian Defense Force assets operate in accordance with Australian law,

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Speaker 3: in accordance with Australian policy, and in accordance with Australian directives.

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Speaker 2: Well, according to Foreign Minister Penny Wong, they're on ABC Sydney.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: So if we don't have boots on the ground, then

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Speaker 2: what is our involvement. At the same time, the effects

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Speaker 2: of the war being felt here at home, price hikes

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Speaker 2: on fuel and airfares, travel chaos continues to be reflected

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Speaker 2: in our departures and arrivals boards. And how did a

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Speaker 2: women's football tournament down Under suddenly become part of a

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Speaker 2: geopolitical crisis. It's the Quickie for Thursday, March twelve. I'm

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Speaker 2: Taylor Straano for a look at the latest news headlines.

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Speaker 1: Here's Claire Murphy, Thanks Taylor. A source close to Kyle

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Speaker 1: sandal And says that he and JACKIEO are back in

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Speaker 1: contact and are repairing the riff that saw their show

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Speaker 1: suspended and their two hundred million dollar contract on the line.

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Speaker 1: The pair had a fight back on February twenty, with

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Speaker 1: Kyle telling Jackie live on air that her recent interest

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Speaker 1: in astrology was making her unprofessional and that she was

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Speaker 1: off with the Fairies. Jackie left before the show ended,

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Speaker 1: and a few days later Arn announced that she'd advised

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Speaker 1: she could no longer work with Kyle and they effectively

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Speaker 1: tore up her contract. She later released a statement saying

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Speaker 1: she didn't quit and has now engaged legal representation. AARN

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Speaker 1: also gave Sandalands fourteen days to remedy the misconduct or

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Speaker 1: be in breach of contract himself. Kyle also released a

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Speaker 1: statement saying he was not given fair process and that

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Speaker 1: the breach of his contract was not valid. His contract

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Speaker 1: remains in place at this time. Aarn has been in

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Speaker 1: increasingly tough financial territory since the signing of the radio

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Speaker 1: duo's contract, the biggest talent fee paid in Australian history,

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Speaker 1: with the show failing to attract decent ratings when it

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Speaker 1: moved to broadcast in Melbourne, a decrease in ad revenue,

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Speaker 1: and with a long investigation by the Australian Communications and

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Speaker 1: Media Authority over comments made on the show. The anonymous

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Speaker 1: source claims that he and Jackie both see the situation

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Speaker 1: as an opportunistic move from ARN to try and save money.

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Speaker 1: ARN has yet to comment on the allegations. The ABC

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Speaker 1: is reporting that the mother of one of the Iranian

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Speaker 1: women's soccer players send a voice note telling her to

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Speaker 1: stay in Australia or she'd be killed. Five members of

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Speaker 1: the team who were in Australia playing in the Asian

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Speaker 1: Cup managed to get free from their handlers while on

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Speaker 1: the Gold Coast to request asylum. Home Affairs Minister Tony

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Speaker 1: they were very happy to be allowed to stay. There

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Speaker 1: were then reports that another two members of the team,

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Speaker 1: a player and a staff member, were also granted humanitarian

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Speaker 1: visas before the team's plane left Australia, with a member

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Speaker 1: of the Iranian Australian community desperately attempting to get the

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Speaker 1: voice note to the player from her mother that said

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Speaker 1: don't come, they'll kill you. It's reported the player initially

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Speaker 1: route back to Iran. Their speculation the player was pressured

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Speaker 1: their families were concerned. Iranian authorities have also announced that

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Speaker 1: their men's team will no longer participate in the upcoming

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Speaker 1: World Cup, which is due to be held across Canada,

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Speaker 1: Mexico and the US in July. Iran's military says the

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Speaker 1: US a barrel as its forces attacked merchant ships in

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Speaker 1: the blockaded Golf. Iran also fired at Israel and targets

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Speaker 1: fight back despite what the Pentagon has described as the

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Speaker 1: have rebounded, with investors betting for now that US President

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump will find a quick way to end the

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Speaker 1: war he began alongside Israel nearly two weeks ago. Tramp,

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Speaker 1: who's reportedly tried to reassure markets this week that the

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Speaker 1: view that there was practically nothing left to target in Iran,

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Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, where a fifth of the world's

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Speaker 1: since the oil shocks of the nineteen seventies. Nicole Kidman

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Speaker 1: the first time. The Aussie actor sat down with Variety

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Speaker 1: to say that she's grateful for her family and keeping

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Speaker 1: beautiful girls, my darlings who are suddenly women. Kidmen who

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Speaker 2: Thanks claar next from canceled flights and hiked airfares to

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Speaker 2: members of Iran's women's football team being granted asylum. What

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Speaker 2: East right now. The Middle East conflict is showing up

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Speaker 2: into very different ways on our screens. On one side,

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Speaker 2: images of the young Iranian footballers known as the Lioness's

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Speaker 2: in Australia, not just on the field, but surrounded by

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Speaker 2: people trying to protect them. Photos show them with Australia's

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Speaker 2: Home Affairs and Immigration Minister Tony Burke and supporters who've

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Speaker 2: an Asia Women's Cup match. Seven of the players and

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Speaker 2: staff have now been granted asylum here, a decision they

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Speaker 2: country where they feared repercussions. Tony Burk says the team

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Speaker 4: I can't begin to imagine what people have been weighing up,

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Speaker 2: Five players asked for protection on Monday, and by Tuesday

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Speaker 2: with a pathway to permanent residency, the same emergency visa

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Speaker 2: still wreaking havoc on global travel. In Monday's episode of

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Speaker 2: The Quikie, the global product leader for Flights Center warned

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Speaker 2: against prematurely canceling your flights and checking your travel insurance

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Speaker 2: policy while anticipating price hikes and a protracted period of

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Speaker 2: travel uncertainty. Just three days later, and that still remains

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Speaker 2: the case, British Airways have now canceled flights to and

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Speaker 2: from Aman Bahrain, Doha, Abu Dhabi and Tel Aviv until

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Speaker 2: the end of the month, citing instability in the airspace,

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Speaker 2: with some routes like Abu Dhabi suspended until later this year.

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Speaker 2: turbulence is showing up directly in our hip pockets. Quantus

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Speaker 2: says its jet fuel costs have jumped by about one

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Speaker 2: that international affairs will keep rising, with cheaper seats selling

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Speaker 2: and its Perth to London, Perth to Paris and Singapore

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Speaker 2: alone because of the instability. On top of that, drivers

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Speaker 2: New fuel price rules kicked in this week. Retailers now

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Speaker 2: data to the service Victoria Servo Saver app so people

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Speaker 2: some of its long range radar sites were damaged by

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Speaker 2: work out whether it's safe or even remotely affordable to

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Speaker 2: situation closely. Jess let's start with the Iranian women's football team.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to us, from a diplomatic standpoint, why

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Speaker 5: Now that the United States has gone into an all

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Speaker 5: definitely siding more with the United States understanding that they

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Speaker 5: Australian government is not too concerned about getting offside with

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Speaker 5: who may not be in favor of the current ruling regime.

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Speaker 5: So making this decision is I see the Australian government

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Speaker 5: backing for the war, but on the other hand, yes,

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Speaker 5: supporting Iranian populations who might be against the regime. Yes,

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Speaker 5: supporting in some ways attempts to degrade the Iranian regime

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Speaker 5: or even break diplomatic ties with them.

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Speaker 2: We talked last week about if Australia could be involved

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Speaker 2: in what that capacity may look like. Since that time,

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Speaker 2: the Albanezy government has made some moves in that area.

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Speaker 2: We sent a aircraft over there, some missile and artillery

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Speaker 2: as well. Can you explain to us the update. A

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Speaker 2: in the war now and what's your response to that?

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Speaker 5: That's right, So this is again the Australian government trying

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Speaker 5: provided missiles, but we provided defensive missiles, so these are

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Speaker 5: air to air missiles which can actually help to shoot

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Speaker 5: systems for the Golf. So what the Australian government is

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Speaker 5: trying to do here is to say, yes, we're supportive

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: Of course that could become sort of a thin line

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's a reality where Australia does take

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Speaker 2: a more offensive position.

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Speaker 5: The only way in which that could happen is if

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Speaker 5: this war really drags on, and obviously President Trump is

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Speaker 5: that takes place. I think the war would have to

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Speaker 5: of drag in other middle power partners of Australia around

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Speaker 5: would also probably have to see US boots on the

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Speaker 5: ground before Australia might get involved in a more serious

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Speaker 5: military capacity. There really isn't any appetite amongst the Australian

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Speaker 5: population for Australian military to go out, certainly not boots

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Speaker 5: on the ground, and start fighting a long war in

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Speaker 5: It's only if in the probably unlikely but possible scenario

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Speaker 5: up being more of a ground operation on behalf of

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Speaker 5: the US as well.

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Speaker 2: Jess. This started as a joint military action by the

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Speaker 2: US and Israel, it now seems there may be a

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Speaker 2: schism in the objectives of the war. What do the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that there have always been a

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Speaker 5: bit of difference in the objectives of Israel and the

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Speaker 5: has really been a joint military operation and continues to

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Speaker 5: be so between the US and Israel. I think for

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Speaker 5: Israel there's a very clear objective to completely weaken the

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Speaker 5: current Iranian regime in any way possible, and also regime

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Speaker 5: change would be probably a good objective from an Israeli perspective,

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Speaker 5: but a little bit depending on what the next regime

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Speaker 5: looks like. Trump may sincerely feel that the Iranian regime

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Speaker 5: is a brutal and horrible regime. But he's really gone

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Speaker 5: back and forth between whether this is about regime change

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Speaker 5: a little bit in terms of how long the US

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Speaker 5: the US were to withdraw quite quickly, yes we would

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Speaker 5: see a weakened regime, but at this stage, the existing

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Speaker 2: And just to bring it back home finally, jess where

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Speaker 2: to from here? We're seeing fuel hikes already, pain at

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Speaker 2: the petrol bowser flights in chaos, the airfare hike is

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Speaker 2: hard to ignore. How much longer can this go on for?

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Speaker 5: That's right? So I would unfortunately advise Australians to be

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Speaker 5: prepared for disruptions in international travel for a while. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think travel through the Gulf, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 5: let's say this particular war comes to some kind of conclusion,

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Speaker 5: so I would expect that's going to put a big

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Speaker 5: in countries like Australia where people do tend to travel

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Speaker 5: I think we can expect a rise in ticket prices

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Speaker 5: for international flights and then also of course fuel, So

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Speaker 5: just for everyday consumers that means much higher prices for petrol.

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Speaker 5: We've already seen petrol prices rising by forty or fifty

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Speaker 5: fuel is also really critical and fuel prices, so yes,

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Speaker 5: I do think unfortunately, probably for most of this year,

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Speaker 5: we are going to see a bit of a pinch

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