Speaker 1: From Mama Mia. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop
Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm tea book, and
Speaker 1: we apologize to how this episode's gonna sound.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 1: Look, it's been a big day here, lots to chat about.
Speaker 1: I've just discovered I'm wearing two different shoes. I have
Speaker 1: white airing on. Laura's in like two near identical balot flats,
Speaker 1: but they're not the same bot flats, No, but one.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought I had done something to my legs.
Speaker 1: I walked to work and I was tilting. I walked
Speaker 1: into the studio tilting. I sat down the chair and
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, something's wrong, Something's wrong, something, something
Speaker 1: was a foot. As we were getting ready to record
Speaker 1: today's episode, I was like, is this aging? Your legs
Speaker 1: suddenly feel like they don't walk together. And we started
Speaker 1: walking to get lunch because we're best friends, and Laura's like, oh,
Speaker 1: something's weird. Oh my god, Tina, I'm wearing two different shoes,
Speaker 1: and why she hadn't We're wearing two different shoes all day.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing two different shoes. They're both black, but one
Speaker 1: they're very different materials styles, and also one has a
Speaker 1: little heel, and one dodge one's leather, one's like sweet,
Speaker 1: one swayed one's leather. Here's the kicker. One has a
Speaker 1: little heel and the other doesn't. So I actually it
Speaker 1: wasn't my imagination. I have been walking websided all morning. Anyway.
Speaker 1: That's just to kind a picture of what's to come.
Speaker 1: Everyone's strap in that. What's that for an introduction? I
Speaker 1: hope the Jeszys film music was playing behind all of that.
Speaker 1: People decided to listen to this pod for the first
Speaker 1: time because I've seen all our amazing social clips or
Speaker 1: like they're like, oh my god, Meryl Streep was in
Speaker 1: that pod, let me listen to it. And they listen
Speaker 1: today's episode and it's just one host saying so I
Speaker 1: thought I was still doing and I just realized I
Speaker 1: was wearing two different juice. Anyway, we actually do despite
Speaker 1: that intro, we do have a really really exciting show
Speaker 1: for you guys today. One we are talking about the big,
Speaker 1: buzzy new young adult romance show that has taken over
Speaker 1: the world. Everyone's talking about it, and if your friends
Speaker 1: aren't talking about it, they will be soon. It's also
Speaker 1: kind of set the scene changed how like we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about these young adult shows because they are
Speaker 1: flooding the market like nobody's business. So we're talking about that.
Speaker 1: And then we have some celeb guests joining us later
Speaker 1: in the show. Tina Burke, you interview the stars of
Speaker 1: the big hottest new rom com of the year. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hear from them. We're gonna hear about the movie
Speaker 1: before it comes out in Astralia this week. But also
Speaker 1: things in your interview wit interesting. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: little behind the scenes story to tell you that only
Speaker 1: this is the fun thing. I not listening to the pod.
Speaker 1: You only get the behind the scenes tea about what
Speaker 1: really happens with celebrities if you listen to the pop
Speaker 1: so true. So that's coming up later, But first you
Speaker 1: have what is it a conspiracy theory? My notes just
Speaker 1: say Taylor Swift is up to something. Exclamation. That's all
Speaker 1: I wrote down, And that could be have said a
Speaker 1: number of times this year. But hey, you've been right
Speaker 1: many a time when you've caught out her conspiracy theory. Yes,
Speaker 1: and there's a few things that we've said on this
Speaker 1: podcast that are going to finally come to fruition. So
Speaker 1: you might think, oh, they were wrong before. No, no,
Speaker 1: we were just too early. Oh sure, you were too
Speaker 1: many steps ahead. We were too many steps ahead. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let me get into it. We are coming up
Speaker 1: on the twentieth anniversary of Taylor Swift, the debut album
Speaker 1: by Taylor Swift, self titled of Course. So it's Teloswift
Speaker 1: by Taylor Swift, and it is one of only two
Speaker 1: albums that she never did like a re recording, re
Speaker 1: release of If you guys remember, because I talked about
Speaker 1: it incessantly, Taylor Swift re recorded a bunch of her
Speaker 1: albums in order to own the rights to her masters,
Speaker 1: because she was trying to buy her master's back and
Speaker 1: Scooter Braun, et cetera, et cetera. We don't have time,
Speaker 1: but we are coming up on the twentieth anniversary of
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift album. And when she did buy back
Speaker 1: the rights to her masters, she did reveal that, you know,
Speaker 1: in time, she would share that with the world because
Speaker 1: she'd gone to re record it, and she had re
Speaker 1: recorded some vault tracks. It was all a bit like, oh,
Speaker 1: when could we expect that? And then it just never happened. However,
Speaker 1: a fan made bot account that Wow accurately predicted things
Speaker 1: in the past based on where house movements, has confirmed
Speaker 1: that two hundred and fifty thousand vinyl records have been restocked. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the vital That sounds important.
Speaker 1: I need to go back to the bot super quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The information line is, so someone's made
Speaker 1: a bot, yes, that tracks it's legit. It's called Muller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's all I have for you. And it's like
Speaker 1: an AI program that tracks taylors of movements AI like
Speaker 1: it's literally like some sort of bot. But also people
Speaker 1: have been tracked. No, not her movements, her warehouse movement,
Speaker 1: warehouse move this is warehouse related. So there was that,
Speaker 1: and then there was like an unofficial leak that has
Speaker 1: not been verified. So like Radar Online and a bunch
Speaker 1: of other news outlets. Then let's be honest a bit skeptical.
Speaker 1: They quote unquote verified the reports of the fifty K variants. Uh,
Speaker 1: they asked the bot to verify. They were like, tell
Speaker 1: us if it's true, damn it. Do you think that
Speaker 1: got appearance the bot made by someone? It's just it's
Speaker 1: tracking the data. Anyway. There was also a reported leak
Speaker 1: of the details. So it came out that a like
Speaker 1: because she often does collabs of Target in the US.
Speaker 1: It's always like Target variants and someone released whether or
Speaker 1: not it's true, who knows list of thirty one tracks,
Speaker 1: which that is the most amount of tracks she's ever
Speaker 1: had on an album, tied with Tortured Poets Department. Wow,
Speaker 1: so we've seen like a potential track list, true and true?
Speaker 1: Who could say? But the rumors they're happening. Something's going on.
Speaker 1: And the back end of her website was updated on
Speaker 1: August seven, Okay, because is that coming from the bot
Speaker 1: as well? No, okay, that's coming from me because when
Speaker 1: a stop giggling me, No, no, I'm listening. I'm so
Speaker 1: fascinated by that. When and like, when a website is
Speaker 1: updated Taylorswift dot com, you can see the time stamp,
Speaker 1: like on Google will say three hours ago and like
Speaker 1: nothing else changed, but people basically trolled like the back
Speaker 1: end coding because any other artist's website an update wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a big deal, but an update for her, But
Speaker 1: there are people who have made basically bots to troll
Speaker 1: everything Taylor Swift does because and that's how the I
Speaker 1: Knew It, I knew you quote like fake glitch that
Speaker 1: revealed her Toy Story song. That's how people discovered that
Speaker 1: because that was just a temporary thing on her website.
Speaker 1: You have to be lurking to catch miss Taylor Allison Swift.
Speaker 1: But so those are the few things and it's like, Okay, Tina,
Speaker 1: you're a bit insane. We don't believe you. However, I
Speaker 1: didn't see you're insane. Counterpoint when she did I knew It,
Speaker 1: I knew you the song for Toy Story. We said
Speaker 1: that that would be her re entering her country era,
Speaker 1: that it was a great segue into something four debut
Speaker 1: re release because it's the twentieth year. At that time,
Speaker 1: she re engaged country music stations and country music journalists
Speaker 1: who she hadn't spoken with in a very long time,
Speaker 1: Channels that she hadn't really worked with commercially in a
Speaker 1: very long time. She suddenly was back in their good
Speaker 1: graces or they were back in hers. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: Shaylor Swift hot ticket in town. Everyone wants to hang,
Speaker 1: but she's selective. She also invited a massive like country
Speaker 1: music cohort to her wedding of people who Yes, are
Speaker 1: her industry peers, but I wouldn't say she's that close
Speaker 1: with necessarily Brad Paisley, for example, Miranda Lambert, Kelsey Bellerini
Speaker 1: definitely a friend, but some of them are more like
Speaker 1: industry peers who she's never seemingly hung out with that
Speaker 1: much beyond just like being at awards shows. However, there's
Speaker 1: a report thought that there are a lot of collabs
Speaker 1: on the debut, so there are people that she's been
Speaker 1: working with, hence why they were possibly possibly tenuous link.
Speaker 1: She also had green accents and butterflies in the Opaalite
Speaker 1: music video. That was the same music video that teased
Speaker 1: the Toy Story song, so people think it teased return
Speaker 1: to country music, and the photo shoot for I Knew
Speaker 1: It I Knew You had similar outfits to what she
Speaker 1: wore for her debut album photo shoot. All that to say,
Speaker 1: the original album came out on October twenty four, two
Speaker 1: thousand and six, and she announced that she had finished
Speaker 1: work on her first ever album on August twelve, two
Speaker 1: thousand and six. Something's gonna happen August twelve in the US,
Speaker 1: possibly we'll get an announcement that it's coming, and according
Speaker 1: to the leaks. This will be called like Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: twentieth Anniversary, not Taylor Swift Taylor's version, because she doesn't
Speaker 1: need the Taylor's versions anymore. All of them again, but yes,
Speaker 1: so allegedly some duets with big names, a lot of
Speaker 1: tracks coming our way, re recordings of songs we never
Speaker 1: got to hear, like officially, because this was also in
Speaker 1: the era where like leaks of songs of her would
Speaker 1: come out and it wasn't AI. It was legitimate. It
Speaker 1: was her songs and tracks she hadn't released, like I'd lie.
Speaker 1: So it might be getting another Taylor Swift album and
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that. Thoughts, feelings, No, you know,
Speaker 1: you always convinced me to be honest, I didn't. This
Speaker 1: is like a bad journalistic move for me, But I
Speaker 1: didn't even need the evidence if you told me, you
Speaker 1: told me something was awry with Taylor Swift and she
Speaker 1: was dropping something. I know how deep you are in
Speaker 1: that world, and how like you don't sleep because you're
Speaker 1: watching the watching the movements. In many ways, you are
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift bot, always watching, always trying. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to set up a bot, and I don't
Speaker 1: believe in AI, So I do it manually? Yes, so
Speaker 1: you just don't sleep. Yeah, so no, I would believe you.
Speaker 1: And I guess all the signs point to like she's
Speaker 1: been seen. I know she probably has recorded or recorded
Speaker 1: it already, but she's been seeing. Going into recording studio,
Speaker 1: she was wearing Twain T shirt. That's real, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was not imagine. But we do think that
Speaker 1: around that time might have been when she was doing
Speaker 1: the re records for the debut album, and she might
Speaker 1: have had Shania on. Yeah, I reckon. I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be big country name on this album along with her.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a big deal. I'm very excited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the twentieth anniversary would be huge for anyone,
Speaker 1: but I think for Taylor Swift because she really leans
Speaker 1: into those moments and nostalgia and celebrating milestones and giving
Speaker 1: fans extra all the time, that she would have had
Speaker 1: this on her radar for the last five years building
Speaker 1: up to it. And the thing is like with reputation,
Speaker 1: she said when she did sit down to try to
Speaker 1: re record that album, she was like, it's perfect, I
Speaker 1: can't do it. Yeah, So it just would have been
Speaker 1: a harrowing album to re record all about her love
Speaker 1: for Joe Alwyn, whereas she was like, yep, I've redone
Speaker 1: my Taylor Swift album, so we knew we'd probably hopefully
Speaker 1: get it at some point. Yeah, well excited for that.
Speaker 1: Ten will keep us abreast. She try and get the
Speaker 1: bot on the pod for announcement day to get like
Speaker 1: an insider scoop. Okay, stay alert but not alarmed, is
Speaker 1: what I'll say about Taylor spat Okay, that's just good
Speaker 1: advice for her. Always give an eye up. Sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: not the best at talking about things I love because
Speaker 1: I love them too much. But we're going to get
Speaker 1: through it today. And that is because I have a
Speaker 1: buzzy new TV show that I need to tell you
Speaker 1: about that I stayed up until like almost three am
Speaker 1: been watching last week and it is Sterling Point on
Speaker 1: Prime Video. Have you had a chance yet to watch
Speaker 1: any No? No, just because as I was on leave
Speaker 1: last week. But I wasn't on leave lying on the beach.
Speaker 1: I was on leave looking after tiny children. Yes, by myself,
Speaker 1: I'm a number one fan of the Yes, And I
Speaker 1: know parents can watch TV shows and have young children,
Speaker 1: but well, no, no, when you've just got them for
Speaker 1: a week, you've got to be your hands on deck
Speaker 1: and then you have I have my TV time. So no,
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet, but I'm I'm hopeful, but
Speaker 1: I'm also a little skeptical. It's just there's obviously been
Speaker 1: so many incredible young adult romances that have come out
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years and especially this year,
Speaker 1: but like some of them have not been great. And
Speaker 1: as I told you, I want to love them. I
Speaker 1: I was raised on like some of the best young
Speaker 1: adults yes romance shows of all time, and I want
Speaker 1: nothing more than for the youth of the today to
Speaker 1: experience that, but also me as a fully blown adult,
Speaker 1: to still be able to watch that. And I know
Speaker 1: it's on popular opinion, Like I loved off campus. I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. I want to watch this in too.
Speaker 1: It wasn't giddy for the leads kind of No, we've
Speaker 1: had this conversation before. You look shocked. It was kind
Speaker 1: of like it. It was good, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was lewed in, like their chemistry and we haven't
Speaker 1: just do anything that. I didn't really do anything for
Speaker 1: me enough, And then like what was the other one
Speaker 1: every year after Oh, that's a whole other conversation. I
Speaker 1: just remember me like talking about on the pod and
Speaker 1: being like and anyway, it's fine, and I stand by
Speaker 1: that it's fine. But the thing is, it has the
Speaker 1: potential to be great. Why wasn't it great Because they
Speaker 1: changed the story too much for it to be great
Speaker 1: and the casting was bad. I'll say it. The casting
Speaker 1: was bad. I see, think about a young adult romance
Speaker 1: or just like a teen show in general's like teen
Speaker 1: shows get written off for being silly, they're for kids,
Speaker 1: like they're just nothing. But for them to work like
Speaker 1: they worked back in the day in the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: they have to be made like Prestige TV. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I think, okay, this is not in every year segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: there were I think there were a lot of problems
Speaker 1: with what happened with that being a success given the
Speaker 1: book is actually incredible. I love that book. I love
Speaker 1: the second books. No, and you've convinced me. I have
Speaker 1: the books on home. I'm going to read them. They're
Speaker 1: very different. And I think part of the struggle for
Speaker 1: a lot of people was the struggle with the duel
Speaker 1: timeline of that show because people were like, does she
Speaker 1: have the brain or not? Is she a child or
Speaker 1: is she an adult? Now? Oh yeah? The people they
Speaker 1: cast to play vastly different ages. It was just hard
Speaker 1: to tell honestly a lot of the time what was happening.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with the lead girl, Percy, It's like she'd
Speaker 1: be in a scene, I'd be like, oh, it's adult
Speaker 1: Percy and it's team Percy girls. People making shows. This
Speaker 1: is why characters have fringes and bobs or dye their hair,
Speaker 1: like there's always something to show. What age Bracketburians and
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed looked part it just wasn't as as
Speaker 1: we needed it to be. It wasn't as grand and
Speaker 1: as big. It had its pitfalls. Well, I was just
Speaker 1: thinking of like the like the teen shows of like
Speaker 1: the Golden Age, which I think is the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: because the OC had like its anniversary the other day,
Speaker 1: and say, we want about the OC the first season
Speaker 1: in particular, but I'd say the first three seasons. The
Speaker 1: pilot is spectacular, Like people study that in storytelling courses
Speaker 1: of how to introduce characters, plot, storyline break, different beats
Speaker 1: of a story arc. It's so incredibly done. The show
Speaker 1: itself is so well done, and even like I've been
Speaker 1: rewatching some old episodes of Gossip Girl recently because it's
Speaker 1: all my mind could take in, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the actors from Gossip Girl.
Speaker 1: I hate it, and a lot of people talk about
Speaker 1: it being trash, but when you watch it, it's like
Speaker 1: this is like high, like it's it makes such an impact.
Speaker 1: The casting is so incredible. Every scene is like so
Speaker 1: heighth and like it's an old Shakespearean drama. The attention
Speaker 1: to detail, the budget, all those things. They're not throwing
Speaker 1: three nondescript actors next to a backdrop of the lake
Speaker 1: and being like they're in love and you, audience, you
Speaker 1: sort yourself out. Okay. So unfortunately this one does take
Speaker 1: place at a lake. No, I want the lake. I
Speaker 1: want the lake. I grew up on Dawson's Creek. I
Speaker 1: love a body of water. Yes, I love water in
Speaker 1: a teen show. Yeah, yeah, the oc a beach, Dawson's
Speaker 1: Creek a creek like important. The Summer Return pretty that
Speaker 1: was great, Yes, And I think what the Summer Return
Speaker 1: pretty understood about being a teen prestige drama is the
Speaker 1: parents also need to have interesting plot lines or at
Speaker 1: the very least be like an interesting interwoven part of
Speaker 1: the plot, like in Dawson's Creek. Sometimes the parents were
Speaker 1: like having a moment, but otherwise it was just like
Speaker 1: they were still just around. Yeah, anyway, like I cared
Speaker 1: about them, or at least their storyline interspersed, you know,
Speaker 1: and in the summer term pretty obviously, Like I love
Speaker 1: Laurel so much, like I want to hang out with her,
Speaker 1: I want her tank top, want all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess like Dawson's Creek One Tree Hill, like the
Speaker 1: parents were there more so than like a Beverly Hill's
Speaker 1: nine o two on it, where the parents would just
Speaker 1: open the door and then you never see them again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess where like parents became part of the
Speaker 1: show was like the OC and Gossip Girl. Hey, you
Speaker 1: find out Lily and Rufus used to hook up on
Speaker 1: a dingy tour. Sometimes you care more about the Palace
Speaker 1: Hallow plot line. Yeah great, so sterling point, Okay, kepis side.
Speaker 1: I'm just so but no, you're helping me because these
Speaker 1: are a lot of things I wanted to I can't
Speaker 1: watch Tina, don't bring me out of the Bad teen Show.
Speaker 1: I can't deal with news is that Josh Schwartz, creator
Speaker 1: of the OC. Obviously I love Josh Schwartz with all
Speaker 1: my heart and soul. Yeah, hey you for getting Heart
Speaker 1: of Dixie. Josh Schwartz's creator, guy behind the OC, Gossip
Speaker 1: Girl and a Heart of Dixie is involved with Sterling
Speaker 1: Point as one of the co and I'm sold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're sold. I'm salt and you don't need anything
Speaker 1: else to sell you except here's one. Meghan Park Oh,
Speaker 1: sold again, Sold again. The show is created by Meghan Park,
Speaker 1: who also recently created a movie that we loved called
Speaker 1: My Old Art starring Aubrey Plaza, and it was also
Speaker 1: a lakeside coming of age story of course, the Lake,
Speaker 1: The Lake. I know that we talk so much about
Speaker 1: how much we love that movie My Old Ars when
Speaker 1: it came out in cinemas, but obviously it was just
Speaker 1: a small movie. It is out now on Prime Video.
Speaker 1: It might be other places, but it's definitely on Prime.
Speaker 1: If anyone hasn't seen that, run right now, put your
Speaker 1: child down, Quit your job. I think about that movie
Speaker 1: all the time. That was an excellent It was so
Speaker 1: beautifully done at such an original idea, such a good cast.
Speaker 1: Aubrey Plaza actually her best role, one of her best roles.
Speaker 1: She was excellent outside of like the really over the
Speaker 1: top comedy that she does, No, she was incredible. So
Speaker 1: Meghan Park, if that name does sound familiar to you,
Speaker 1: she was a star on the Secret Life of the
Speaker 1: American Teenager. Did you ever? No, I never watched that actually,
Speaker 1: and she was I'm aware that's where Shale Woodley's character, yes,
Speaker 1: has is a teen mum, right, yeah, but it's the
Speaker 1: most bonkers plot you've ever heard. And sometimes I just
Speaker 1: watched the clips on wait, what do you mean, just
Speaker 1: like the things that would happen in that show that
Speaker 1: was like not prestige teen drama. That was oh, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like that, don't know. I just wasn't
Speaker 1: in the right kind of like headspace to watch that. Now.
Speaker 1: I never went back to him. Like Shalale Woodley always
Speaker 1: looks sad, she is a teen. She always was sad
Speaker 1: and annoying. Francis Erasia, isn't it too? Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it was like I can't get into that.
Speaker 1: We don't have time. But Meghan Park was also in
Speaker 1: like a bunch of Hallmark things. She was in the
Speaker 1: movie what If. So she's been around, but she's really
Speaker 1: shining as like a writer and a creator and she's
Speaker 1: doing amazing work. So she also did The Fallout, and
Speaker 1: then she did My Old Ass and now Sterling Point.
Speaker 1: Oh foll that was great. Yeah the fall Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: with Jenna Ortega. Yeah, and Maddie'sigler. Yeah. You also then
Speaker 1: was in mild Us and she likes to cast maddi'siglerin things.
Speaker 1: But let's not hold that against she's not cast. Oh
Speaker 1: thank goodness. So Sterling Point is, yes, a teen drama,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, it's so much more. Okay. So
Speaker 1: Sterling Point follows seventeen year old twins Annie, played by
Speaker 1: Ella Ruben, who looks exactly like Anne Hathaway and has
Speaker 1: previously played Anne Hathaway's daughter in The Idea of You,
Speaker 1: the Like Boy bandy movie. Did you watch that? Oh yeah, yeah, please, Okay,
Speaker 1: I see what it's look at me like you've never
Speaker 1: I've seen it multiple times. I reade a whole think
Speaker 1: piece about what it means to turn forty from that movie,
Speaker 1: which is what because there was a line in there
Speaker 1: is like you start your life in your twenties, you
Speaker 1: build it in your thirties, and in your forties is
Speaker 1: where you like start to enjoy it. That was a
Speaker 1: lovely way to say it. Okay, that's nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the show notes. You didn't have to read.
Speaker 1: It's fine, but I just thought was really nice. It's
Speaker 1: a big point of the movie. No, no, I've obviously
Speaker 1: seen that movie a thousand times and I've read the book.
Speaker 1: It's great. Ella Rubin is until Dawn? Is that her
Speaker 1: as well? Based on the video game? Yeah. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: like a screen queen and she hacks clowns to pieces
Speaker 1: and stuff. She's really good, amazing well, yes, excellent actress.
Speaker 1: So seventeen year old twins Annie played by Ella Rubin
Speaker 1: and Connor played by Mark Ruffalo's son Keen Ruffalo. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's sensational. So they live like a very charmed, kind
Speaker 1: of spoiled life. They're in New York. Their dad is
Speaker 1: Stephen played by j du Plus who was in the
Speaker 1: Midi Project. Oh yeah, I'm across the two annoying brothers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the twins were adopted as babies and they've spent
Speaker 1: their whole lives in this like lovely New York setting,
Speaker 1: very wealthy, very privileged. However, they did lose their mum
Speaker 1: when they were babies, and they've never obviously gotten to
Speaker 1: know her side of the family or really know much
Speaker 1: about her beyond what they know from their dad. Then
Speaker 1: their maternal grandfather suddenly passes away and he leaves them
Speaker 1: his Canadian island called Sterling Point. Wow, and it's great.
Speaker 1: They don't know anything about him, they've never met him before.
Speaker 1: They're like, why did this guy leave us an island
Speaker 1: called Sterling Point? Oh, by the way, did mum hang
Speaker 1: out in Canada a lot? What's that about? They're like,
Speaker 1: very confused. Is it an island that people live on it?
Speaker 1: It's like an island like a little pitch when people
Speaker 1: live on. But he did own it? Oh okay. And
Speaker 1: then their dad is really weird about the situation. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take that. When the lawyer comes and
Speaker 1: is like, hey, your grandad's left you this in your
Speaker 1: will and some letters, he takes the letters, he takes
Speaker 1: everything away. He's like, nope, I'm gonna talk about this
Speaker 1: with you guys later. By Annie Curious Soul, she's recently
Speaker 1: not gotten into a business summer camp. They're seventeen, they're
Speaker 1: in high school, they're finishing high school. She's a bit sad.
Speaker 1: She goes snooping around, she finds the letters, and she decides,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Sterling Point myself and figure
Speaker 1: out the situation, because why is dad being weird as hell?
Speaker 1: She gets to Sterling p Point, stuff happens, is her
Speaker 1: mum still alive? They do like weirdly, try to make
Speaker 1: that a thing, but the time will be crazy. What
Speaker 1: she finds is like only the first of many twists,
Speaker 1: and it is in the trailer, so it's not a spoiler.
Speaker 1: It's the whole premise of the show. And it is
Speaker 1: the fact that she gets to Sterling Point and she
Speaker 1: discovers Ramona, which is the sister she never knew existed,
Speaker 1: is her mum's biological daughter, whereas she was her mum's
Speaker 1: adopted daughter. So it obviously raises a million questions. They're
Speaker 1: about the same age. She's like, what's going on? So obviously, Oh,
Speaker 1: I had not even watched the trailer, like I was
Speaker 1: keeping out no, no, because I knew that I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to watch it because I wasn't here for a
Speaker 1: week and watch last week, so I haven't watched anything
Speaker 1: I'm saving at all. So all right, I spoiler. No,
Speaker 1: that's fine to have a spoiler. I'm like, I genuinely
Speaker 1: didn't know that was the plot. That's crazy. So she
Speaker 1: discovers a sister, Ramona, and then from there it's sort
Speaker 1: of like small town drama unfurling. So I do think
Speaker 1: it's a lot like Dawson's Creek and very Hard of
Speaker 1: Dixie in that sense, because it's like, if you recall
Speaker 1: the plot of Heart of Dixie, a girl gets a
Speaker 1: letter from a man who's like, come to my practice.
Speaker 1: Doctor Zoe Hart praising for people who haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: played by Rachel Bilson from The OC. Doctor Zoe Hart
Speaker 1: receives a letter that tells her to come to town,
Speaker 1: and then she comes to town and then she's like, hey, surprise,
Speaker 1: you had a dad, finds out her dad that she
Speaker 1: thought her dad was on her dad. Her dad was
Speaker 1: a small town doctor. It's all mysteries and oh, Josh
Speaker 1: Wat's is so predictable, and I love that man so much.
Speaker 1: He's just like, I know what the people want. So
Speaker 1: there's okay, lots of family heartache, lots of twists and turns.
Speaker 1: The twists and turns could start to feel a little
Speaker 1: bit like two nine o two one zero, right, They
Speaker 1: don't ever. I think that's because the cast is so strong,
Speaker 1: and Megan Park has done some interviews about this, but
Speaker 1: the dialogue is just really strong. And that's because she
Speaker 1: said when she was writing, she knows a lot of
Speaker 1: gen Z shows when you watch them on screen, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like how people talk, and people have
Speaker 1: tried to like build slang in that they don't understand,
Speaker 1: or like make jokes that someone young wouldn't make. So
Speaker 1: she told the actors as well, like do what you
Speaker 1: want with it, Like here's the bones of the script,
Speaker 1: but I want you to do what you think your
Speaker 1: character would. You were saying this moment. And then she
Speaker 1: also as she was writing, was like reading it out loud,
Speaker 1: which is like writing one oh one, but apparently no
Speaker 1: one else is doing it because this is one of
Speaker 1: the few like gen Z shows that I've actually seen
Speaker 1: a lot of gen Z praising for like not having
Speaker 1: cringe language and like being quite believable to how people
Speaker 1: would react in this situation. So these two sisters sort
Speaker 1: of find each other like side cabin, and they start
Speaker 1: to figure out what's gone on with their mum and
Speaker 1: how they've both been kept a secret from each other
Speaker 1: for their whole life interest. So it's very like dramatic,
Speaker 1: intense plot line. I cried so many times, really, so
Speaker 1: I was a fucking mess. I was crying non stop. Oh.
Speaker 1: I did not think it was that kind of kind
Speaker 1: of shy. It was like a sexy teen summer. There's
Speaker 1: romance and everyone is really trying to build it up
Speaker 1: like love triangle, because that's because now there are a
Speaker 1: few love interests. But I will say it's never been
Speaker 1: easier to pick it to. Okay, it's not hard. It's
Speaker 1: not really a triangle, more of a line. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty solid line, and then there's just like a guy
Speaker 1: that's okay. The love triangle thing only works in certain storylines,
Speaker 1: certain characters, and I think we need to step that's
Speaker 1: become like a bit of a storytelling crutch now where
Speaker 1: people are like, it's three sexy teens and a love
Speaker 1: triangle and a body of water and that's all we need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And sometimes will they won't they with just a couple
Speaker 1: or just like a really good lobe, like slow Burn
Speaker 1: romance is actually more enticing to watch than a love triangle.
Speaker 1: There's the vague notion of a triangle, sure, like someone
Speaker 1: drew a triangle and then rubbed it out with a
Speaker 1: little eras but you even as they're sort of going
Speaker 1: through the motions and as well, it doesn't feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just like teen Triangle, It feels very
Speaker 1: much just more like a realistic depiction of someone who's
Speaker 1: like just found out something hugely life altering and is
Speaker 1: maybe making not the best decisions they could have made
Speaker 1: it at every point in time to like do the
Speaker 1: thing that they wanted to do or be with the
Speaker 1: person they want to be with. Like I also think
Speaker 1: that's what's really good about it and feels a bit
Speaker 1: more like a proper retro teen drama is that like
Speaker 1: they make mistakes, they do things that are ridiculous, or
Speaker 1: like they don't communicate their feelings properly, and then they
Speaker 1: fuck up a relationship, but in a way where you
Speaker 1: or not just like, oh, you remember when Belly was
Speaker 1: always being crazy on the summer and you're like, now,
Speaker 1: what Belly like that? You're like, I see you, queen,
Speaker 1: Like I get it. Yeah, there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: love between the characters as well. They're all very supportive
Speaker 1: of each other because I can't it's not like angry
Speaker 1: teen characters just angry each other all the time. And again,
Speaker 1: a good teen drama is also built from like they
Speaker 1: have to have some fun times. There's a bit of
Speaker 1: teen anger. But I will say, well, just also fair
Speaker 1: because the parents Shenanigan's ahoy okay, okay, so that's right off.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, how's Keen Ruffalo? How's he? Damn good? Is
Speaker 1: he makes me happy? Love him?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? The two lead girls excellent. I think they've
Speaker 1: got great careers ahead of them. They are fantastic. But
Speaker 1: Keen Ruffalo is so funny. So he's like, while Annie
Speaker 1: is like, I want to find out what's happened here,
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't give a shit. I love my rich,
Speaker 1: privileged New York life. I love it being here. And
Speaker 1: he's very much the comedic relief brother but also has
Speaker 1: his own shit to deal with, and it's very like
Speaker 1: he brings a lot of light and a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to what could yeah become quite like, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: drab and dreary and life's hard. He adds a bit
Speaker 1: of fun, but he also looks so much like Joe Keary.
Speaker 1: Oh I've heard, but he'll say that I didn't see
Speaker 1: it until I saw him acting. Mark Ruffalo's son is
Speaker 1: out there like making a name for himself. Everyone's just like, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's the guy from Stranger Things. And we all know
Speaker 1: how I feel about Joe Keary. You love Joe Cary. Well,
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting because Mark Ruffalo, like he it's
Speaker 1: so interesting because he is one of the biggest stars
Speaker 1: in the world in like the franchises he's in, the
Speaker 1: movies he's been in, but he's so low key, Like
Speaker 1: no one's out there like trying to get photos of
Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo or like you know what I mean, or yeah,
Speaker 1: not that he's like and he's he's a lovely I've
Speaker 1: only met him briefly once. We actually both got knocked
Speaker 1: over a barriquet where fans trying to get to him,
Speaker 1: not me, but I hear lovely things about him. But
Speaker 1: he's just like kind of so low key, and he's
Speaker 1: kept his kids, all of his kids so out of
Speaker 1: the spotlight. Yeah, and I feel like they're the kind
Speaker 1: of so they're this huge celeb family that could just
Speaker 1: walk down the street and I don't think they'd get
Speaker 1: like people would even pay them that much attention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because they I think he set that up to
Speaker 1: liberately that they're very low key. Yes. And now he's
Speaker 1: got a son that's wanting to be an actor. And
Speaker 1: I was reading an interview with Keene where they said like, oh,
Speaker 1: what advice did your dad give you? And he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he just said to me, like, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a long, hard road, and you know you'll go to
Speaker 1: hundreds of auditions or you'll get turned away, turned away,
Speaker 1: turned away, everyone will tell you. No, You've just got
Speaker 1: to keep working. And I was like, oh, that's a
Speaker 1: lovely sentiment. Probably not for you, Keen Ruffalo, probably for
Speaker 1: your dad at time, because he has his dad's charm man,
Speaker 1: he's hot, yeah exactly, and he has his dad's name,
Speaker 1: and his dad's an avenger, and I think I think
Speaker 1: Keen Ruffalo probably just Keen Ruffalo is going to make it.
Speaker 1: I love it, like, I just love him giving him
Speaker 1: that advice. I love Mark giving him his son that advice,
Speaker 1: trying to be really father and also talking about what
Speaker 1: he did go through because Mark Ruffalo was like before
Speaker 1: he got a few rong comms and before Avengers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was doing the audition rounds for a long time
Speaker 1: and he missed out a lot of big roles and
Speaker 1: he said he got told that he wasn't like attractive
Speaker 1: enough to be a movie star or be a leading
Speaker 1: man and all these sorts of things. And then and
Speaker 1: now his son's coming up, and he's trying to like
Speaker 1: get his son ready. But it's a different path, isn't
Speaker 1: it for your dad's margrapher And I feel like he's
Speaker 1: but he's like owning it and that's as we've said,
Speaker 1: that's all we want from our Hollywood nec Yeah. Is
Speaker 1: he's been very honest about it, and he's been quite
Speaker 1: funny in interviews with his co stars about it. Yeah
Speaker 1: he seems sweet. Okay, that makes me really happy that
Speaker 1: he's really good. Yeah, it really is, okay, And there's
Speaker 1: a really fun relationship. So when he does eventually come
Speaker 1: to Sterling Point, he meets all these cool people who
Speaker 1: Anie's already sort of gotten to know. Like, there's really
Speaker 1: fun dynamics building in a way that I think will
Speaker 1: be good for a second season. And they're definitely like
Speaker 1: going to do a second season. Oh good. It ends
Speaker 1: in a way that's really interesting, and it also is
Speaker 1: like picking up massively on prime video. I think when
Speaker 1: I followed the actors, they were in like the low,
Speaker 1: like tens of thousands in their followers, and it's just
Speaker 1: growing exponentially. I love that your course at the weekend
Speaker 1: you are a bot. How many episodes that there's eight
Speaker 1: episodes and yesso did bingewash them all? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we need to go back for TV series to
Speaker 1: at least ten, ten or twelve because they used to
Speaker 1: be twenty two. Yeah, I know, I agree. However, what
Speaker 1: I will say is there's no you know, you know
Speaker 1: how you'd watch an episode of Dawson's Creak and it
Speaker 1: was just Dawson making like a fucking video or something. No,
Speaker 1: I no, I don't feel like that school assignmental. No. No,
Speaker 1: That's that is why I warn people when they watch
Speaker 1: a show like Dawson's Creek, it is like it's a
Speaker 1: different like it's almost like a different muscle, you know how,
Speaker 1: Like people can't so different. People can't watch movies now
Speaker 1: because they're so used to watching TikTok videos. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I find now people can't watch like old teen shows
Speaker 1: because they used to, Yeah, eight episodes, so much happening
Speaker 1: and everything's happening, whereas but then you lose all those
Speaker 1: like fun filler episodes where you do but that's why
Speaker 1: they got a roach and the car breaks down or something,
Speaker 1: or Dorson's Creek. They did an episode about that, Like
Speaker 1: they had their own blair Witch where they went to
Speaker 1: an island. I know that was haunted, but I just said,
Speaker 1: did nothing for the plot, Yes, exactly, but you have
Speaker 1: to accept that those days are gone and they're only
Speaker 1: sticking around for sitcoms and we're blessed to even have that.
Speaker 1: And I think if this had been a twelve episode series,
Speaker 1: it just would have dragged it, like because do you
Speaker 1: know what, like you can't have filler in the midst
Speaker 1: of other episodes that have abs litely nothing like everything
Speaker 1: all at once, so it's like it can't be like
Speaker 1: high stakes, and then there's a filler episode when we
Speaker 1: got on a boat and then like there's like some fun.
Speaker 1: So it does still manage to weave in like the
Speaker 1: teen fun and the excitement, and you really go through
Speaker 1: a roller coaster of emotions because there's so much happening.
Speaker 1: But Jeffrey Dean Morgan, your love from the Walking Dead
Speaker 1: is in this as one of them. Shut up, why
Speaker 1: don't you lead with that? You keep talking? Sorry, that's
Speaker 1: so fair. Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Yeah, is not only my
Speaker 1: Love from the Walking Dead. It's like he's actually terrible
Speaker 1: that show. Like he's one of the worst villains ever.
Speaker 1: I can because I can get appelling. But because he's
Speaker 1: also from Supernatural. Oh, I thought you were going to
Speaker 1: say graz Animal No, no, no. I loved him and Grays
Speaker 1: Anatomy too because that's when I was in my hardcore
Speaker 1: Grays Anatomy fan phase. But he also they he also
Speaker 1: plays John Winchester, and that is so important. That is
Speaker 1: important to you. Missy Pile also one of the parents.
Speaker 1: She plays like a drunk mom and she's all the time. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I would a sort of squealing, but I literally looked,
Speaker 1: got nothing about this show that's on life like Missy Pile. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the name. I haven't heard again so many movies,
Speaker 1: so many TV shows. She is a comedic genius. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's very funny. I was just three watching with
Speaker 1: my sisters a while ago, josing in the Pussycats a
Speaker 1: classic Missy pile. I know she's not in it that much,
Speaker 1: but like everything, just when she popped up on screen,
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, you're good in everything. She's great and everything. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she's excellent. And obviously, as I said, there's a
Speaker 1: great supporting cast of like other teen characters, they've all
Speaker 1: got their own like problems going on, which is why
Speaker 1: as well, it does feel very ensemble, like we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to maybe know some of them a bit more
Speaker 1: in a second season. I think it's really good. And dude,
Speaker 1: I the buzz i felt not not the same as
Speaker 1: episode five of Heated Rivalry is certainly not the same. Wow,
Speaker 1: But I did feel alive for the first time in
Speaker 1: a while. Oh okay, and that's all I want is
Speaker 1: to feel as a first kiss. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say between who because of the fake love triangle allocations.
Speaker 1: They're sitting opposite each other on the floor, guys, Tina's
Speaker 1: if you're just listening to this, you know, watching on video,
Speaker 1: Tina's got her hands up. They're sitting on opposite sides
Speaker 1: floor like, facing each other, and one of them he
Speaker 1: like grabs her legs and like slides her closer to him,
Speaker 1: and then they share a hug for a reason that's
Speaker 1: plot related, and like he hugs her really tightly, and
Speaker 1: then they have their first kiss, and then she's like, wait,
Speaker 1: that was great, Oh my god. And he goes to
Speaker 1: do it again and he gets his he gets his
Speaker 1: little hand and he like grabs her chin and he
Speaker 1: pulls your hand motions right now, I actually can't look
Speaker 1: at you. It's crazy. I feel like it is so good.
Speaker 1: I feel like I just stopped your own personal fans crazy,
Speaker 1: like a teen drama first kiss. It's like, bz okay.
Speaker 1: So good. That's all I want, because that's why I
Speaker 1: feel like to be missing from teen dramas. I know
Speaker 1: people got that from off campus. I personally didn't, and
Speaker 1: a lot of the teen shows have come out. I
Speaker 1: just I want to feel giddy. You feel giddy, but
Speaker 1: you still also feel sad, but then you feel giddy again.
Speaker 1: And the good is that there's a lot of giddiness
Speaker 1: between a lot of different characters. And I also think
Speaker 1: like I saw the actors to talking about that scene
Speaker 1: on the floor, and they reacted the way I reacted,
Speaker 1: because that wasn't scripted, and I think on the day
Speaker 1: I've seen them say that, like the I think it
Speaker 1: was Megan Park was like, why don't you do this
Speaker 1: and they both went, oh my god, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it played off on screen. Wow, so good, just so
Speaker 1: like sweet and romantic. Some of it you're not like,
Speaker 1: this is so sexy, except maybe the youthah, but you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so cute and romantic, and
Speaker 1: I love it. I love love Team Love, teen Love,
Speaker 1: mostly Team Love. I said, Team Love. Okay, So stelling
Speaker 1: point on Prime Video, Well, we just know that's the
Speaker 1: show of the moment, so we wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that you guys were up to date because that's what
Speaker 1: we do here, and hopefully it's sort of like setting
Speaker 1: the bath where teen shows should be. I think it
Speaker 1: is a much higher caliber than some of the shows
Speaker 1: we have seen recently. Yes, well, speaking of romance and
Speaker 1: things that will hopefully make us skiddy, romance stilled episode. Hell,
Speaker 1: this is what we like to talk about, so they said,
Speaker 1: Team Love, I'd like to talk about people kissing and
Speaker 1: nothing else. The new roum com One Night Only, which
Speaker 1: we have talked about on the bill since the very
Speaker 1: first trailer was released and and I watched the trailer
Speaker 1: and since then it has been, I think affectionately labeled
Speaker 1: the Sex Purge movie is what people have been calling it.
Speaker 1: There's been so much buzz around it. It's finally out
Speaker 1: in Australia this week and you interview the two lead
Speaker 1: stars of the movie, and I was devastated I didn't
Speaker 1: get to because it was meant to be you, but
Speaker 1: due to fate, I stepped in. Well yeah, fate and
Speaker 1: once again quit me me having to go and look
Speaker 1: after nieces and nephews. Honestly, freaking Mary Poppin's over here.
Speaker 1: So yes, at one am on a Saturday evening. Okay
Speaker 1: that bet I wasn't jealous of. Yeah, yeah, I did
Speaker 1: hop on a little zoom call with Callum Turner and
Speaker 1: Monica Barbara the movie Yeah, one night only, So I
Speaker 1: went to go see it a couple of days before,
Speaker 1: and then I was just really excited after seeing it
Speaker 1: to get to talk to them because I did think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, she is incredible and he's great too. You
Speaker 1: could be talking about Calum Turner and Monica Barbarro or
Speaker 1: Callum Turner and his wife Dulie bar That's what people say.
Speaker 1: She's this and he's great too. Yeah, he's like good photo.
Speaker 1: She looks incredible and he's there too, And I actually
Speaker 1: think he would be very on board with that. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's fine. He's a good fanboy. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I did sit and like this is a problem with
Speaker 1: like the Inner West housing system. Not really anyone who
Speaker 1: could control this. But it was freezing and I was
Speaker 1: sitting in like thermal pants, a hot water bottle, a blanket,
Speaker 1: and I had like tea and had all this stuff
Speaker 1: like going because I was like, it's freaking one am
Speaker 1: and I'm breathing my mind. Yeah, so that's like you
Speaker 1: don't want to be shivering. No, Well, that's the unglamorous
Speaker 1: part of this job that I think people don't see
Speaker 1: that much is sometimes they see us getting to like
Speaker 1: like the slubs come into Australia and we get to
Speaker 1: go and sit with them in a fancy hotel room
Speaker 1: and get filmed and have a little chat. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: get flow into glamorous cities across the world in first
Speaker 1: class and we get to chat to them. And sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to set up a makeshift. I've tied a
Speaker 1: lamp to my roof. I don't all crazy. You've to
Speaker 1: set up a makeshift studio in your own apartment in
Speaker 1: the early hours of the morning, and you have to
Speaker 1: I the stay up all night, which I prefer to
Speaker 1: do because you sleep waiting for your arm to go
Speaker 1: off knowing, or you've got to wake up at like
Speaker 1: three am, do a full face of makeup, and then
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do, but I personally always
Speaker 1: put a blazer over my pajamas. Ye. Yeah, you only
Speaker 1: see the top bit, so I usually just keep my
Speaker 1: pajamas on. I pack on the makeup, I push all
Speaker 1: my hair forwards. I don't do the back because you're
Speaker 1: in the front, right, and I just put blazers a
Speaker 1: blazer on over whatever pajamas I'm wearing, yeah, okay, and
Speaker 1: then I movie start like a jaunty headband. I would
Speaker 1: never wear a headband in real life, but I think
Speaker 1: just on the call sometimes interesting talking to movie stars
Speaker 1: is the one moment you choose to wear a headband,
Speaker 1: just like a cool one. Though Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Don't think I was saying a cool headband, but sure,
Speaker 1: all right, sweet rude, so you talked to them in
Speaker 1: my headband. I did no, I didn't wear it for
Speaker 1: this one. I logged on. I sat there for an hour.
Speaker 1: Internet worked perfectly fine. Everything was chill. And I think
Speaker 1: we've said this before, but you kind of sit in
Speaker 1: like the Zoom waiting room with other journalists and you
Speaker 1: just sit around and then suddenly they're like, all right, Tina,
Speaker 1: you're up one minute's notice, and you're like, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you've been sitting there for so long, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden like that, you suddenly I have to speak,
Speaker 1: and you've not spoken from there enough, and suddenly these
Speaker 1: famous faces just pop up. And it's not intimate because
Speaker 1: like they're always sitting in a studio and they've got
Speaker 1: like a professional lighting and sound. But then you have
Speaker 1: celebs who are like in the living room with you.
Speaker 1: And sometimes now I do it against a blank wall
Speaker 1: in my apartment with a tree, like a plant in
Speaker 1: the background, a tree. I don't have a tree in
Speaker 1: my apartment. I have a plant, but I used to
Speaker 1: not think of that when I first started doing it,
Speaker 1: because who thinks of that? And so I just had
Speaker 1: my whole apartment on display. So I'd have people like
Speaker 1: like Jennifer Hudson is like, wow, what's on your Barckhart? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, or like your celebs being like looking at
Speaker 1: stuff in your apartment. It's so weirdly intimate. It's very strange.
Speaker 1: I don't have a blank wall to do it against.
Speaker 1: So mine's like there's my bookcase. No bookcase is good,
Speaker 1: and also my couch and also my door because it
Speaker 1: all fits in one shot because it's an apartment. But yes,
Speaker 1: I loved onto the zoom and then they appeared. And
Speaker 1: then the first thing that Callantona did was go, oh,
Speaker 1: can I just say mom but me? And I was like,
Speaker 1: park me something that Unfortunately we've covered this on the
Speaker 1: podcast and many a time, because yes, the name Muma
Speaker 1: mea for international celebs. I've said to prs so many
Speaker 1: times I need an extra one to two minutes at
Speaker 1: the start for them to like just ingest that name.
Speaker 1: That doesn't count for my time because there's so many
Speaker 1: questions about it. They want to say it back to
Speaker 1: you a few times, yeah, and let us know it
Speaker 1: for yet my infamous Patrick Dempsey story where he sung
Speaker 1: the entire Oba song Mama Me and to me every verse.
Speaker 1: Oh well, don't worry, I brought that up for some
Speaker 1: reason because what calm Turner goes mam mummy and then
Speaker 1: like I went and then Monica Babarro turned to him
Speaker 1: and was like, she has five minutes. She doesn't have
Speaker 1: time for this, and I was like, that's so true.
Speaker 1: Want to keep a borrow? So right, what a lovely
Speaker 1: thing to think of you, And then they were both
Speaker 1: like laughing, but he was like, you can't, You've got
Speaker 1: to say it, but like he's trying to include me
Speaker 1: in the conversation. Little do I know, I've just frozen
Speaker 1: on the zoom. I have no concept of the fact
Speaker 1: that I've frozen in the ugliest mid talking face you've
Speaker 1: ever seen until I got sent back both ab our footage.
Speaker 1: But so I am like ha ha yeah. But then
Speaker 1: I think due to the lag, they think I'm not
Speaker 1: engaging with this joke, but I was because they kept
Speaker 1: laughing and staring, so I thought they were joking still
Speaker 1: about this, but no, they're laughing because I'm frozen. But
Speaker 1: they've also just been laughing about Mamma Mia. So I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, it's okay, and Monica was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is so silly, and he said it again. He's like,
Speaker 1: Mamma Mia. We went again, and he went again for
Speaker 1: the joke, was like, how could you not do it?
Speaker 1: And I was like ha ha yeah, and like jokingly,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't just say anyway. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, like Patrick Dempsey once sang the
Speaker 1: whole song to my boss, so I'm used to it.
Speaker 1: Shut up, no, shut up is what I think of
Speaker 1: what I think back on all my interviews and things.
Speaker 1: But honestly, I think they and also I'm still frozen
Speaker 1: when all of that happened. So they made me say it,
Speaker 1: but they got two of the nicest celebs to do
Speaker 1: that around. I never met Calm Turner, but he seems
Speaker 1: lovely say that he was nice. Yeah. I have met
Speaker 1: Monica Babaru. She would never remember this. She and I
Speaker 1: sat together or to her shoulder for like six hours.
Speaker 1: It's in a tent on a blueberry farm in Canada.
Speaker 2: Once.
Speaker 1: Maybe she would remember that. She would remember the time.
Speaker 1: She just wouldn't remember me. It was her first. It
Speaker 1: was that TV show Unreal. She was in the second
Speaker 1: season Love that show and I went over to do
Speaker 1: a set visit and it was so sweet because she
Speaker 1: wasn't working that I remember her so vividly because she
Speaker 1: actually thinks she'd remember that. She was in the tent
Speaker 1: with us all day watching filming, and it wasn't her
Speaker 1: filming day, but she didn't know anyone. She had nowhere
Speaker 1: else to go, so she would come to the set
Speaker 1: and watch because she was trying to learn to be
Speaker 1: a better actor. Isn't the sweetest. And she was asking questions,
Speaker 1: She was asking questions, and she had a little like
Speaker 1: a film camera that she was walking around taking photos
Speaker 1: so that she would remember it. And she was talking
Speaker 1: about living in this tiny little part in the city
Speaker 1: and she wanted to be near the water, but she
Speaker 1: couldn't afford, like literally, Like she was so nice, and
Speaker 1: she was just like this young aspiring actress trying to
Speaker 1: like make her way on her first big role, who
Speaker 1: came and sat in the tent on the blueberry farm
Speaker 1: because she didn't know where else to go for the day.
Speaker 1: And I thought when I saw her walking the red
Speaker 1: carpet the Oscars when she was nominated, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: she did it, my friend. She in fine, you had
Speaker 1: a nice experience. I'm sure you did too. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying she's I'm sure she's retained that loveliness. She was lovely. However, yes,
Speaker 1: I did freeze. So then I sat at home wondering
Speaker 1: why the two famous people were laughing at me in
Speaker 1: a really uncomfortable way for a while. And then I
Speaker 1: just carried on and asked my questions. And then I
Speaker 1: realized because they reacted way later after what i'd said
Speaker 1: when I like that, oh I'm frozen, and they don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But the thing is doing zoom interviews.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure they're used to it. So when
Speaker 1: you got into interview like that went well, right, like
Speaker 1: how did we start off from there? I just asked
Speaker 1: my first question as quickly as I could, because I
Speaker 1: was like, well, they're not going to hear me anyway,
Speaker 1: so I better get it out really quickly. Okay, before
Speaker 1: we play the interview for the spillers and myself, because
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the full thing yet, can you give
Speaker 1: us a little, just a little idea of what the
Speaker 1: movie is about. Yes, So it's a high concept rom com,
Speaker 1: which just means like suspended disbelief. So it's a bit
Speaker 1: like fifty First Dates thirteen going on thirty and like
Speaker 1: Palm Springs where you're just like something weird's happening, but
Speaker 1: otherwise the central theme is so in this case, Monica
Speaker 1: Babaro stars as Ali, who is like an aspiring singer
Speaker 1: and she sings jingles oh sure, which is actually one
Speaker 1: of the best parts of the movie, which I can
Speaker 1: say because this has already come out in America and
Speaker 1: reviews are lifted.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she sings jingles that are basically like medicinal songs,
Speaker 1: but in like it'll be like Sarah Burrella's Brave, but
Speaker 1: instead she's singing about like a medication. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: those weird jingles that play. So that's her job and
Speaker 1: she hates it. And they wrote that specifically because she's
Speaker 1: a singer in real life and they just wanted her
Speaker 1: to sing in this movie and sing a lot of
Speaker 1: really weird shit. Callum Turner stars as Owen. He owns
Speaker 1: a pizza shop and basically they're both single. They're both
Speaker 1: in New York and in this version of the world,
Speaker 1: premarital sex is illegal. We don't know why going into
Speaker 1: the movie, other than that a mandate was passed that
Speaker 1: you can't have sex unless you're married, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I've seen some people saying like, oh, that's so unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but given the way the world is going, actually it's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually do believe that that is not comple letely
Speaker 1: off the cards the next couple of years, if things
Speaker 1: keep going the way they are in America. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I do really love like it's a bit ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: love a ridiculous plot for a wrong com bring those back,
Speaker 1: I say, But it doesn't feel that crazy when you're
Speaker 1: watching it, like it's all explained in the film. So
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have a lot of
Speaker 1: questions and will gluck. The director is like, just go
Speaker 1: watch the film and it'll answer them. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's such a big part of the trailer and
Speaker 1: the premise and everything that you go in, like that's
Speaker 1: not a surprise where you have to grapple with that,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming at the top of the movie, because you
Speaker 1: go in knowing that's what the premise is. Yes, And
Speaker 1: it starts off it tells you on screen a bit
Speaker 1: of like what's gone on before, and it just generally
Speaker 1: unfolds through like things you see in the background, all
Speaker 1: like bits that are explained for like how it all works,
Speaker 1: but they both basically find themselves single on this one
Speaker 1: night of the year, and single people can have sex,
Speaker 1: and they keep running into each other over the course
Speaker 1: of the evening while I guess no spoilies trying to
Speaker 1: have some fun. So obviously we know we don't get
Speaker 1: very long whenever we've got talent over zoom. So the
Speaker 1: two things that I really just wanted to ask them
Speaker 1: about were one the fact that I thought they had
Speaker 1: incredible chemistry on screen, and what it was like to
Speaker 1: start opposite each other in rom com leading roles. Even
Speaker 1: though it's a bit wacky, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: classic tempoles of like a regular rom com in there,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to know what it was like
Speaker 1: to work with one another. And the very obvious question,
Speaker 1: but the one you've got to ask is like this
Speaker 1: movie has basically got horror undertones. We've all been joking
Speaker 1: about it being called the Sexy Purge, And I wanted
Speaker 1: to know what would drive you to do a movie
Speaker 1: with such a unique script like that, even though it's
Speaker 1: really fun. What makes you go like I have to
Speaker 1: be a part of this story. So here is what
Speaker 1: they said.
Speaker 3: Mama Mia, Mama.
Speaker 2: Mia, do you have FiOS the whole.
Speaker 3: Song, and I have the dancement. I mean, it's there,
Speaker 3: it's right there. You have to you have to go
Speaker 3: for it. I just loved going to work every single
Speaker 3: day and getting to work with Monica and just the
Speaker 3: life force that she brings to her characters. She elevates
Speaker 3: it off the page and makes it real and every moment,
Speaker 3: and we created this real, nice bond that was safe
Speaker 3: and allowed us to full on our face over and
Speaker 3: over and over again until we would get it right.
Speaker 3: And it was just such a safe environment that was
Speaker 3: completely exhilarating. And not only Monica, but Will also provides
Speaker 3: that and the three of us together just just had
Speaker 3: a real brilliant ride creatively.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all the same, I.
Speaker 2: Completely echo those sentiments. But I think Callum has a
Speaker 2: great way of being both like taking the work seriously
Speaker 2: and also not taking himself too seriously and just being
Speaker 2: willing to like play and have fun and take risks.
Speaker 2: And I trusted him implicitly before we started, just because
Speaker 2: I knew his work and I knew he was so good,
Speaker 2: but then to get to see that he also wanted
Speaker 2: to just like play and fly free and like try
Speaker 2: things comedically and take risks. That just creates such a
Speaker 2: great environment for everyone to do the same, for Will
Speaker 2: to take risks, for me, for you know, the rest
Speaker 2: of our cast.
Speaker 1: Like it just it just felt.
Speaker 2: Very free and fun and you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: things worked really well and a lot of things didn't work.
Speaker 2: And when something doesn't work, to try to like get
Speaker 2: back on top and try something that does, like you know,
Speaker 2: it takes a lot of safety, and it takes.
Speaker 1: A lot of.
Speaker 2: I don't know, trust, Yeah, a lot of trust and
Speaker 2: like and like a friendliness, you know, like a kind
Speaker 2: of it just it really helps when the dynamic on
Speaker 2: set is just so positive and like yeah, kind of
Speaker 2: comfortable and.
Speaker 3: Kind of is that the way that we worked. We
Speaker 3: would allow each other that freedom and then the sparks
Speaker 3: would fly and that's what we were looking for, Yeah,
Speaker 3: in that in that relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love I love that concept. I think
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Immediately I was like what would I do in that situation?
Speaker 2: Or like what what what else does this mean? And
Speaker 2: it just it does it grabs you right away and
Speaker 2: you just start you can even like scoff at it
Speaker 2: at first and be like, oh, what a you know,
Speaker 2: silly idea, and.
Speaker 1: Yet I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's also interesting to watch people
Speaker 2: navigate falling in love and like finding their freedoms in
Speaker 2: a world where they feel like there is a government
Speaker 2: they don't agree with or like, you know, like like
Speaker 2: that there is this sort of there are these like
Speaker 2: political undertones, and yet the at the heart of it,
Speaker 2: people are just looking for love and connection. And I
Speaker 2: think that that's very relatable at any chapter in history.
Speaker 2: And so I think that there's kind of a Catharsis
Speaker 2: to that kind of built into this like oppressive mandate
Speaker 2: kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: And for me, it's always like the director first, you know,
Speaker 3: director before script, and Will sent me the script as
Speaker 3: I met him, and I was just really excited at
Speaker 3: the possibility of working with him and going on the
Speaker 3: journey with him, because as far as I'm concerned, he's
Speaker 3: the rom com king. You know, it's just like delivers
Speaker 3: these movies that we all love and can watch over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. So to be part of
Speaker 3: his filmography was really an exciting pol.
Speaker 2: He is a great way of like giving you goosebumps
Speaker 2: as an audience, member, Like in those he just like
Speaker 2: grabs you and yeah, you go like you just immediately
Speaker 2: fall in love with everyone who puts on screen and
Speaker 2: so lucky.
Speaker 1: As interesting cow, I'm saying director over script because that's
Speaker 1: a dicey play friend if the script is really bad.
Speaker 1: But then so you can have a great script in
Speaker 1: the movie is terrible if it's not directed well. And
Speaker 1: the way it's like editing, as we know, editing makes
Speaker 1: or breaks a movie as well. And I do really
Speaker 1: love will Glock. So he's done like easy a friends
Speaker 1: with benefits obviously anyone but you and I do really
Speaker 1: like his movies. They're very fun along with just being
Speaker 1: a rom com, like he does have a lot more
Speaker 1: humor to them than a lot of Yeah, he knows
Speaker 1: how to do a fast paced rom com with like
Speaker 1: humor and like really move the story along, which again
Speaker 1: a lot of rom coms have a good premise and
Speaker 1: they fall on their face when you actually watch them.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. They do sound very cute together, but
Speaker 1: I love that, Like usually we have a rom com
Speaker 1: like this with like two big celebs, people are sort
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, did they fight on set or
Speaker 1: do they love each other? Were they hooking up, and
Speaker 1: I love with this one. It's just been like they're
Speaker 1: so cute together, these two friends making the movie. And
Speaker 1: I think one is because obviously Kalum is married to
Speaker 1: dou A Lipa, and we've had a whole year of
Speaker 1: their very extravagant, romantic wedding celebrations. But we've also watched
Speaker 1: Monica as she's become this big movie star of obviously
Speaker 1: being like top Gun Maverick and like Oscar nominid actress
Speaker 1: and all these things, and now she's in this rom com.
Speaker 1: Alongside that, we've watched her fall in love with Andrew
Speaker 1: Garfield and they're so crazy in love with each other,
Speaker 1: and they're so private, but they can't help but like
Speaker 1: hold hands going into the tennis, or like hug on
Speaker 1: a red carpet and stuff. And so I think, like,
Speaker 1: I love that no one even entertained the idea of
Speaker 1: fighting all lovers. They were just like, these are two
Speaker 1: best friends and we love them, not even giving best friend.
Speaker 1: It's like two colleagues. Yeah, yeah, that's you're right. That's
Speaker 1: been more Adam coworkers who've been thrown together. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Now they seem cute and stuff. But yeah, like the
Speaker 1: vibes and in all the junket clips I've seen, like, well,
Speaker 1: they seem like they had a great time. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's not like often you see these rom com junket
Speaker 1: clips and they're really fun. Yeah, they don't feel that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, best friends is probably not
Speaker 1: the word to use, you, right, like Palli colleagues who
Speaker 1: potentially have not spoken since they wrapped and now they're
Speaker 1: like it's like you see a colleague again. You come
Speaker 1: back and like hey, here we are and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do think like it's obviously you guys are
Speaker 1: going to talk abut later in the week. So I
Speaker 1: can't say too much about the movie. But there's like
Speaker 1: a lot of physical comedy in this film. So it
Speaker 1: was interesting how much they spoke about like feeling safe
Speaker 1: and trying things. And it makes a lot of sense
Speaker 1: to think a lot of that would have been improvised
Speaker 1: because there's weird Obviously, this movie has like lots of
Speaker 1: background stuff with people having sex, but it's also like
Speaker 1: they're like physically fighting to get a condom at one point,
Speaker 1: like he lowers her into a sewer to pick something up,
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of very physical comedy in this movie,
Speaker 1: and that's what good rom comes are made of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like it's very fun in that sense, and Estey
Speaker 1: him has done the soundtrack, so honestly, that's one of
Speaker 1: the best things about this movie. Its incredible. Okay, one
Speaker 1: night only. It's at Cinema's Illustrated this Thursday. Correct, I
Speaker 1: am seeing it tonight and premiere and little Callum turn
Speaker 1: On will be there. Maybe as he gets on stage
Speaker 1: to announce his new rom comment like chat about it,
Speaker 1: I'll just stand up and scream, I loved you in eternity.
Speaker 1: You were great, and then I'll get removed and there
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