WEBVTT - A Taylor Swift Secret Has Been Uncovered & The TV Show That’s Replaced Off Campus 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.440 From Mama Mia. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.320 culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm tea book, and 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.799 we apologize to how this episode's gonna sound. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:10.360 Look. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.240 Look, it's been a big day here, lots to chat about. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.400 I've just discovered I'm wearing two different shoes. I have 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.000 white airing on. Laura's in like two near identical balot flats, 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.520 but they're not the same bot flats, No, but one. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.960 I thought I thought I had done something to my legs. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.479 I walked to work and I was tilting. I walked 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.720 into the studio tilting. I sat down the chair and 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.800 I was like, Oh, something's wrong, Something's wrong, something, something 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.960 was a foot. As we were getting ready to record 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.480 today's episode, I was like, is this aging? Your legs 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.280 suddenly feel like they don't walk together. And we started 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.080 walking to get lunch because we're best friends, and Laura's like, oh, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.680 something's weird. Oh my god, Tina, I'm wearing two different shoes, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.800 and why she hadn't We're wearing two different shoes all day. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.280 I'm wearing two different shoes. They're both black, but one 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.000 they're very different materials styles, and also one has a 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.760 little heel, and one dodge one's leather, one's like sweet, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.320 one swayed one's leather. Here's the kicker. One has a 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.080 little heel and the other doesn't. So I actually it 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.200 wasn't my imagination. I have been walking websided all morning. Anyway. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.240 That's just to kind a picture of what's to come. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.800 Everyone's strap in that. What's that for an introduction? I 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.480 hope the Jeszys film music was playing behind all of that. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.800 People decided to listen to this pod for the first 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.040 time because I've seen all our amazing social clips or 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.880 like they're like, oh my god, Meryl Streep was in 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.480 that pod, let me listen to it. And they listen 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.120 today's episode and it's just one host saying so I 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.720 thought I was still doing and I just realized I 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.760 was wearing two different juice. Anyway, we actually do despite 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.640 that intro, we do have a really really exciting show 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.520 for you guys today. One we are talking about the big, 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.720 buzzy new young adult romance show that has taken over 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.000 the world. Everyone's talking about it, and if your friends 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.480 aren't talking about it, they will be soon. It's also 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.800 kind of set the scene changed how like we're gonna 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.920 be talking about these young adult shows because they are 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.520 flooding the market like nobody's business. So we're talking about that. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.480 And then we have some celeb guests joining us later 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.400 in the show. Tina Burke, you interview the stars of 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.160 the big hottest new rom com of the year. We're 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.360 gonna hear from them. We're gonna hear about the movie 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.320 before it comes out in Astralia this week. But also 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.360 things in your interview wit interesting. Yeah, we have a 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.800 little behind the scenes story to tell you that only 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.200 this is the fun thing. I not listening to the pod. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.720 You only get the behind the scenes tea about what 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.840 really happens with celebrities if you listen to the pop 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.440 so true. So that's coming up later, But first you 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.520 have what is it a conspiracy theory? My notes just 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.359 say Taylor Swift is up to something. Exclamation. That's all 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.400 I wrote down, And that could be have said a 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.600 number of times this year. But hey, you've been right 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.720 many a time when you've caught out her conspiracy theory. Yes, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.720 and there's a few things that we've said on this 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.600 podcast that are going to finally come to fruition. So 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.760 you might think, oh, they were wrong before. No, no, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.679 we were just too early. Oh sure, you were too 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.160 many steps ahead. We were too many steps ahead. Okay, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.640 so let me get into it. We are coming up 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.160 on the twentieth anniversary of Taylor Swift, the debut album 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.480 by Taylor Swift, self titled of Course. So it's Teloswift 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.120 by Taylor Swift, and it is one of only two 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.440 albums that she never did like a re recording, re 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.960 release of If you guys remember, because I talked about 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.200 it incessantly, Taylor Swift re recorded a bunch of her 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.400 albums in order to own the rights to her masters, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.560 because she was trying to buy her master's back and 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.160 Scooter Braun, et cetera, et cetera. We don't have time, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.280 but we are coming up on the twentieth anniversary of 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.560 the Taylor Swift album. And when she did buy back 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.800 the rights to her masters, she did reveal that, you know, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.320 in time, she would share that with the world because 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.400 she'd gone to re record it, and she had re 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.960 recorded some vault tracks. It was all a bit like, oh, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.400 when could we expect that? And then it just never happened. However, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.320 a fan made bot account that Wow accurately predicted things 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.360 in the past based on where house movements, has confirmed 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:52.080 that two hundred and fifty thousand vinyl records have been restocked. Okay, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.520 I do want to talk about the vital That sounds important. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.520 I need to go back to the bot super quick. Yeah, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:03.240 I don't know. The information line is, so someone's made 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:09.760 a bot, yes, that tracks it's legit. It's called Muller. Yeah, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.000 and that's all I have for you. And it's like 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.520 an AI program that tracks taylors of movements AI like 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.720 it's literally like some sort of bot. But also people 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.960 have been tracked. No, not her movements, her warehouse movement, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.039 warehouse move this is warehouse related. So there was that, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.680 and then there was like an unofficial leak that has 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.200 not been verified. So like Radar Online and a bunch 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.640 of other news outlets. Then let's be honest a bit skeptical. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:36.240 They quote unquote verified the reports of the fifty K variants. Uh, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.360 they asked the bot to verify. They were like, tell 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.120 us if it's true, damn it. Do you think that 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:46.800 got appearance the bot made by someone? It's just it's 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.080 tracking the data. Anyway. There was also a reported leak 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.480 of the details. So it came out that a like 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.839 because she often does collabs of Target in the US. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.680 It's always like Target variants and someone released whether or 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.440 not it's true, who knows list of thirty one tracks, 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.440 which that is the most amount of tracks she's ever 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.280 had on an album, tied with Tortured Poets Department. Wow, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.400 so we've seen like a potential track list, true and true? 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.840 Who could say? But the rumors they're happening. Something's going on. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.120 And the back end of her website was updated on 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.320 August seven, Okay, because is that coming from the bot 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.760 as well? No, okay, that's coming from me because when 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.200 a stop giggling me, No, no, I'm listening. I'm so 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.080 fascinated by that. When and like, when a website is 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.800 updated Taylorswift dot com, you can see the time stamp, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.839 like on Google will say three hours ago and like 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.960 nothing else changed, but people basically trolled like the back 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.480 end coding because any other artist's website an update wouldn't 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.240 be a big deal, but an update for her, But 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.719 there are people who have made basically bots to troll 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.000 everything Taylor Swift does because and that's how the I 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.680 Knew It, I knew you quote like fake glitch that 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.279 revealed her Toy Story song. That's how people discovered that 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.440 because that was just a temporary thing on her website. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.120 You have to be lurking to catch miss Taylor Allison Swift. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.440 But so those are the few things and it's like, Okay, Tina, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.600 you're a bit insane. We don't believe you. However, I 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.560 didn't see you're insane. Counterpoint when she did I knew It, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.680 I knew you the song for Toy Story. We said 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.920 that that would be her re entering her country era, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.800 that it was a great segue into something four debut 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.720 re release because it's the twentieth year. At that time, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.839 she re engaged country music stations and country music journalists 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.440 who she hadn't spoken with in a very long time, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.000 Channels that she hadn't really worked with commercially in a 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.039 very long time. She suddenly was back in their good 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.840 graces or they were back in hers. Let's be honest, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.479 Shaylor Swift hot ticket in town. Everyone wants to hang, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.880 but she's selective. She also invited a massive like country 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.760 music cohort to her wedding of people who Yes, are 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.239 her industry peers, but I wouldn't say she's that close 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:51.920 with necessarily Brad Paisley, for example, Miranda Lambert, Kelsey Bellerini 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.120 definitely a friend, but some of them are more like 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.039 industry peers who she's never seemingly hung out with that 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.720 much beyond just like being at awards shows. However, there's 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.600 a report thought that there are a lot of collabs 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.960 on the debut, so there are people that she's been 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.920 working with, hence why they were possibly possibly tenuous link. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.800 She also had green accents and butterflies in the Opaalite 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.280 music video. That was the same music video that teased 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.559 the Toy Story song, so people think it teased return 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.040 to country music, and the photo shoot for I Knew 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.440 It I Knew You had similar outfits to what she 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.920 wore for her debut album photo shoot. All that to say, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.600 the original album came out on October twenty four, two 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.400 thousand and six, and she announced that she had finished 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.600 work on her first ever album on August twelve, two 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:37.400 thousand and six. Something's gonna happen August twelve in the US, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.720 possibly we'll get an announcement that it's coming, and according 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.920 to the leaks. This will be called like Taylor Swift 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.480 twentieth Anniversary, not Taylor Swift Taylor's version, because she doesn't 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.680 need the Taylor's versions anymore. All of them again, but yes, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.200 so allegedly some duets with big names, a lot of 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.000 tracks coming our way, re recordings of songs we never 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.280 got to hear, like officially, because this was also in 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.320 the era where like leaks of songs of her would 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.840 come out and it wasn't AI. It was legitimate. It 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.600 was her songs and tracks she hadn't released, like I'd lie. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.400 So it might be getting another Taylor Swift album and 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.120 I'm very excited about that. Thoughts, feelings, No, you know, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.600 you always convinced me to be honest, I didn't. This 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.440 is like a bad journalistic move for me, But I 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.840 didn't even need the evidence if you told me, you 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.320 told me something was awry with Taylor Swift and she 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.440 was dropping something. I know how deep you are in 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.880 that world, and how like you don't sleep because you're 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.120 watching the watching the movements. In many ways, you are 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.640 the Taylor Swift bot, always watching, always trying. I don't 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:33.840 know how to set up a bot, and I don't 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.600 believe in AI, So I do it manually? Yes, so 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.000 you just don't sleep. Yeah, so no, I would believe you. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.600 And I guess all the signs point to like she's 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.520 been seen. I know she probably has recorded or recorded 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.280 it already, but she's been seeing. Going into recording studio, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.800 she was wearing Twain T shirt. That's real, right, Oh yeah, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.440 but that was not imagine. But we do think that 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.480 around that time might have been when she was doing 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.839 the re records for the debut album, and she might 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:58.880 have had Shania on. Yeah, I reckon. I think there's 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.720 gonna be big country name on this album along with her. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.000 I think it'd be a big deal. I'm very excited. Yeah, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.520 I mean the twentieth anniversary would be huge for anyone, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.200 but I think for Taylor Swift because she really leans 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.080 into those moments and nostalgia and celebrating milestones and giving 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.240 fans extra all the time, that she would have had 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.360 this on her radar for the last five years building 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.559 up to it. And the thing is like with reputation, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.320 she said when she did sit down to try to 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.600 re record that album, she was like, it's perfect, I 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.320 can't do it. Yeah, So it just would have been 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.480 a harrowing album to re record all about her love 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.520 for Joe Alwyn, whereas she was like, yep, I've redone 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.240 my Taylor Swift album, so we knew we'd probably hopefully 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.839 get it at some point. Yeah, well excited for that. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.000 Ten will keep us abreast. She try and get the 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.280 bot on the pod for announcement day to get like 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.760 an insider scoop. Okay, stay alert but not alarmed, is 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.199 what I'll say about Taylor spat Okay, that's just good 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.920 advice for her. Always give an eye up. Sometimes I'm 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.440 not the best at talking about things I love because 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.280 I love them too much. But we're going to get 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.719 through it today. And that is because I have a 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.680 buzzy new TV show that I need to tell you 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.679 about that I stayed up until like almost three am 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.440 been watching last week and it is Sterling Point on 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.400 Prime Video. Have you had a chance yet to watch 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.079 any No? No, just because as I was on leave 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.880 last week. But I wasn't on leave lying on the beach. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.320 I was on leave looking after tiny children. Yes, by myself, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.400 I'm a number one fan of the Yes, And I 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.640 know parents can watch TV shows and have young children, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.640 but well, no, no, when you've just got them for 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.920 a week, you've got to be your hands on deck 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.760 and then you have I have my TV time. So no, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.400 I haven't watched it yet, but I'm I'm hopeful, but 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.520 I'm also a little skeptical. It's just there's obviously been 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.800 so many incredible young adult romances that have come out 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.520 in the last couple of years and especially this year, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.720 but like some of them have not been great. And 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:46.360 as I told you, I want to love them. I 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.520 I was raised on like some of the best young 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.440 adults yes romance shows of all time, and I want 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.680 nothing more than for the youth of the today to 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.480 experience that, but also me as a fully blown adult, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.880 to still be able to watch that. And I know 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.839 it's on popular opinion, Like I loved off campus. I 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.440 thought it was great. I want to watch this in too. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:12.160 It wasn't giddy for the leads kind of No, we've 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.120 had this conversation before. You look shocked. It was kind 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.680 of like it. It was good, but it wasn't like 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.720 it was lewed in, like their chemistry and we haven't 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.600 just do anything that. I didn't really do anything for 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.080 me enough, And then like what was the other one 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.719 every year after Oh, that's a whole other conversation. I 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.640 just remember me like talking about on the pod and 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.040 being like and anyway, it's fine, and I stand by 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.040 that it's fine. But the thing is, it has the 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.200 potential to be great. Why wasn't it great Because they 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:37.880 changed the story too much for it to be great 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.640 and the casting was bad. I'll say it. The casting 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.880 was bad. I see, think about a young adult romance 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.120 or just like a teen show in general's like teen 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.240 shows get written off for being silly, they're for kids, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.200 like they're just nothing. But for them to work like 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.640 they worked back in the day in the early two thousands, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.440 they have to be made like Prestige TV. Yes, and 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.959 I think, okay, this is not in every year segment. Okay, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.960 there were I think there were a lot of problems 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.319 with what happened with that being a success given the 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.360 book is actually incredible. I love that book. I love 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.480 the second books. No, and you've convinced me. I have 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.520 the books on home. I'm going to read them. They're 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.240 very different. And I think part of the struggle for 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.679 a lot of people was the struggle with the duel 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.840 timeline of that show because people were like, does she 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.600 have the brain or not? Is she a child or 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.400 is she an adult? Now? Oh yeah? The people they 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.320 cast to play vastly different ages. It was just hard 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.640 to tell honestly a lot of the time what was happening. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.200 Oh yeah, with the lead girl, Percy, It's like she'd 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.040 be in a scene, I'd be like, oh, it's adult 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.760 Percy and it's team Percy girls. People making shows. This 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.400 is why characters have fringes and bobs or dye their hair, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.320 like there's always something to show. What age Bracketburians and 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.160 I still enjoyed looked part it just wasn't as as 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.640 we needed it to be. It wasn't as grand and 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.280 as big. It had its pitfalls. Well, I was just 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.240 thinking of like the like the teen shows of like 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.560 the Golden Age, which I think is the early two thousands, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.920 because the OC had like its anniversary the other day, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.800 and say, we want about the OC the first season 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.520 in particular, but I'd say the first three seasons. The 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.960 pilot is spectacular, Like people study that in storytelling courses 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.000 of how to introduce characters, plot, storyline break, different beats 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.320 of a story arc. It's so incredibly done. The show 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.520 itself is so well done, and even like I've been 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.160 rewatching some old episodes of Gossip Girl recently because it's 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.880 all my mind could take in, and I was like, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.439 I know a lot of the actors from Gossip Girl. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.000 I hate it, and a lot of people talk about 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.720 it being trash, but when you watch it, it's like 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.960 this is like high, like it's it makes such an impact. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.560 The casting is so incredible. Every scene is like so 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.240 heighth and like it's an old Shakespearean drama. The attention 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.920 to detail, the budget, all those things. They're not throwing 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.800 three nondescript actors next to a backdrop of the lake 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.840 and being like they're in love and you, audience, you 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.360 sort yourself out. Okay. So unfortunately this one does take 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.480 place at a lake. No, I want the lake. I 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.240 want the lake. I grew up on Dawson's Creek. I 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.680 love a body of water. Yes, I love water in 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.600 a teen show. Yeah, yeah, the oc a beach, Dawson's 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.560 Creek a creek like important. The Summer Return pretty that 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.960 was great, Yes, And I think what the Summer Return 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.360 pretty understood about being a teen prestige drama is the 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.360 parents also need to have interesting plot lines or at 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.480 the very least be like an interesting interwoven part of 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.600 the plot, like in Dawson's Creek. Sometimes the parents were 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.680 like having a moment, but otherwise it was just like 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.080 they were still just around. Yeah, anyway, like I cared 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.800 about them, or at least their storyline interspersed, you know, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.400 and in the summer term pretty obviously, Like I love 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.040 Laurel so much, like I want to hang out with her, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.720 I want her tank top, want all of it. Yeah, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.000 I guess like Dawson's Creek One Tree Hill, like the 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.080 parents were there more so than like a Beverly Hill's 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.960 nine o two on it, where the parents would just 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.920 open the door and then you never see them again. Yeah, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.960 but I guess where like parents became part of the 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.040 show was like the OC and Gossip Girl. Hey, you 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.720 find out Lily and Rufus used to hook up on 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.960 a dingy tour. Sometimes you care more about the Palace 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.880 Hallow plot line. Yeah great, so sterling point, Okay, kepis side. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.800 I'm just so but no, you're helping me because these 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.800 are a lot of things I wanted to I can't 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.520 watch Tina, don't bring me out of the Bad teen Show. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.040 I can't deal with news is that Josh Schwartz, creator 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.480 of the OC. Obviously I love Josh Schwartz with all 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.400 my heart and soul. Yeah, hey you for getting Heart 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.840 of Dixie. Josh Schwartz's creator, guy behind the OC, Gossip 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.720 Girl and a Heart of Dixie is involved with Sterling 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.240 Point as one of the co and I'm sold. Yeah, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.040 and you're sold. I'm salt and you don't need anything 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.080 else to sell you except here's one. Meghan Park Oh, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.320 sold again, Sold again. The show is created by Meghan Park, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.080 who also recently created a movie that we loved called 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.760 My Old Art starring Aubrey Plaza, and it was also 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.960 a lakeside coming of age story of course, the Lake, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.360 The Lake. I know that we talk so much about 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.280 how much we love that movie My Old Ars when 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.040 it came out in cinemas, but obviously it was just 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.080 a small movie. It is out now on Prime Video. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.520 It might be other places, but it's definitely on Prime. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.080 If anyone hasn't seen that, run right now, put your 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.560 child down, Quit your job. I think about that movie 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.680 all the time. That was an excellent It was so 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.520 beautifully done at such an original idea, such a good cast. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.240 Aubrey Plaza actually her best role, one of her best roles. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.200 She was excellent outside of like the really over the 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.960 top comedy that she does, No, she was incredible. So 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.720 Meghan Park, if that name does sound familiar to you, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.000 she was a star on the Secret Life of the 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.320 American Teenager. Did you ever? No, I never watched that actually, 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.880 and she was I'm aware that's where Shale Woodley's character, yes, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.600 has is a teen mum, right, yeah, but it's the 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.720 most bonkers plot you've ever heard. And sometimes I just 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.920 watched the clips on wait, what do you mean, just 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.000 like the things that would happen in that show that 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.000 was like not prestige teen drama. That was oh, it 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.680 kind of looks like that, don't know. I just wasn't 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.000 in the right kind of like headspace to watch that. Now. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.640 I never went back to him. Like Shalale Woodley always 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.280 looks sad, she is a teen. She always was sad 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.000 and annoying. Francis Erasia, isn't it too? Is that right? 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:52.280 Yeah? 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.040 Yeah? Yeah, it was like I can't get into that. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.400 We don't have time. But Meghan Park was also in 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.280 like a bunch of Hallmark things. She was in the 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.040 movie what If. So she's been around, but she's really 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.480 shining as like a writer and a creator and she's 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.800 doing amazing work. So she also did The Fallout, and 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.040 then she did My Old Ass and now Sterling Point. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.160 Oh foll that was great. Yeah the fall Yeah yeah, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.040 with Jenna Ortega. Yeah, and Maddie'sigler. Yeah. You also then 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.000 was in mild Us and she likes to cast maddi'siglerin things. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.640 But let's not hold that against she's not cast. Oh 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:26.800 thank goodness. So Sterling Point is, yes, a teen drama, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.639 but oh my god, it's so much more. Okay. So 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.760 Sterling Point follows seventeen year old twins Annie, played by 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.040 Ella Ruben, who looks exactly like Anne Hathaway and has 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.840 previously played Anne Hathaway's daughter in The Idea of You, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.760 the Like Boy bandy movie. Did you watch that? Oh yeah, yeah, please, Okay, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.360 I see what it's look at me like you've never 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.320 I've seen it multiple times. I reade a whole think 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.600 piece about what it means to turn forty from that movie, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.719 which is what because there was a line in there 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.439 is like you start your life in your twenties, you 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.480 build it in your thirties, and in your forties is 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.359 where you like start to enjoy it. That was a 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.560 lovely way to say it. Okay, that's nice. I mean, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.280 I'll put it in the show notes. You didn't have to read. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.240 It's fine, but I just thought was really nice. It's 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.680 a big point of the movie. No, no, I've obviously 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.280 seen that movie a thousand times and I've read the book. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.159 It's great. Ella Rubin is until Dawn? Is that her 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.600 as well? Based on the video game? Yeah. Yeah, she's 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.119 like a screen queen and she hacks clowns to pieces 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.960 and stuff. She's really good, amazing well, yes, excellent actress. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.639 So seventeen year old twins Annie played by Ella Rubin 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.920 and Connor played by Mark Ruffalo's son Keen Ruffalo. Oh yeah, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.679 he's sensational. So they live like a very charmed, kind 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.879