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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mumma Mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily

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Speaker 3: news podcast.

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Speaker 4: The Quickie. Should we all join a run Club?

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Speaker 3: Later this week, the Sydney Marathon will take place for

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Speaker 3: the first time, recognized as one of the world's seven

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Speaker 3: major marathons, stacking up against the likes of London and Boston.

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Speaker 3: It's great news for the fighting fit and the brave

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Speaker 3: newbies having a crack at their first big run. But

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Speaker 3: what about everyone else circling the park with their mates?

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Speaker 3: What's led to our continued love affair with the run Club?

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Speaker 4: Plus? Did you grow up believing phones before bed would

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Speaker 4: destroy your sleep?

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Speaker 3: Well, new research shows your screen habit might not be

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Speaker 3: the sleep stealer we once thought. Before we get there,

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Speaker 3: here's Tarlie Blackman with the latest from the Quickie newsroom

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Speaker 3: for Monday, August twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. More than three hundred thousand people marched in

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Speaker 1: support of Palestine across over forty cities in towns on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: The largest mobilization of its kind in Australia. Organizers say

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Speaker 1: the turnout marks the country's strongest show of support yet,

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Speaker 1: with rallies in every state capital and many regional centers.

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Speaker 1: Sydney and Melbourne each saw crowds of over one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand people, according to organizers, while Brisbane's rally was at

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Speaker 1: its biggest ever. Police provided lower estimates, with figures of

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Speaker 1: around ten thousand in some cities. Palestine Action Groups Joshly

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Speaker 1: said the numbers reflect growing national momentum. Another national protest

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Speaker 1: is planned for October five, marking two years since the

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Speaker 1: recent conflict began. Aaron Patterson will return to court this

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Speaker 1: week to face her surviving victim and the families of

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Speaker 1: three people she murdered with the poisonous meal. The fifty

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Speaker 1: year old was convicted in July of three murders and

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Speaker 1: one attempted murder after serving at beef Wellington lace with

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Speaker 1: deathcap mushrooms at her Leon Gartha home in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Donngale Patterson and Heather Wilkinson died after eating the Mealther's husband,

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Speaker 1: Ian Wilkinson, was the only survivor. Patterson will appear in

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Speaker 1: person at a pre sentence hearing. At the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne today. Victim impact statements will be presented and

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Speaker 1: prosecutors will argue for a lengthy sentence. She faces life

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Speaker 1: in prison. A sentencing date may be said this week.

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Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric Menendez, the brothers who murdered their parents

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Speaker 1: in their Beverly Hills mansion in nineteen eighty nine, have

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Speaker 1: both been denied parole after separate hearings last week in California. Lyle,

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Speaker 1: aged fifty seven, faced the Parole Board on Friday, a

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Speaker 1: day after Eric, who was also refused release. The board

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Speaker 1: said Lyle still poses a risk to the public, citing

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Speaker 1: the brutal nature of the killings, repeated rule breaking in prison,

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Speaker 1: and ongoing antisocial traits despite showing remorse and taking part

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Speaker 1: in rehabilitation programs. Commissioners pointed to his illicit use of

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Speaker 1: mobile phones and poor decision making behind bars. Both men

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Speaker 1: are serving life without parole and have now turned to

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Speaker 1: a clemency request to Governor Gavin Newsom. They are also

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Speaker 1: seeking a new trial based on allegations of childhood abuse.

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Speaker 1: Luke Hemmings, frontman of the banded five Seconds of Summer,

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Speaker 1: welcomed their first child, a baby girl. In a surprise

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Speaker 1: Instagram post titled Our Best Kept Secret, The couple shared

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Speaker 1: Deaton's pregnancy and their newborn. They chose not to share

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Speaker 1: the baby's face, name, or birth date. Hemmings explained they

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Speaker 1: kept the news private to protect their daughter's privacy and

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Speaker 4: Thanks Charlie. Next, we're off for a run.

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Speaker 3: You've probably seen it, groups and matching singlets charging through

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Speaker 2: I think I may have just found the best friend clubmen, bitches.

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Speaker 3: If you thought Unofficial run Club last week was crazy,

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Speaker 3: Come to Sydney's newest run club with Nick na Let's

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Speaker 3: host Chilgo Run Club Together. Australia is in the middle

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Speaker 3: Experts and run leaders say it's about accessibility and belo.

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Speaker 3: Run clubs are free or low cost, cater for all

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Speaker 3: people said they joined run clubs for social connection, to

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Speaker 3: And now I'm considering if that's the reason enough to

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Speaker 3: Was the perfect way to re enter the dating pool. However,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure me, red faced and sweaty, would be

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Speaker 3: putting my best foot forward, But I digress. Run clubs

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Speaker 3: from a chore into a passport to adventure, friendship and fun.

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Speaker 4: So is it time you join the.

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Speaker 3: to Enduran's athleteteria pit Turia.

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Speaker 4: Why do you run?

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Speaker 2: I do think that having a motivation to go for

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Speaker 2: when I go for a run, I run because I can.

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Speaker 2: I don't put any pressure on myself these days to

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Speaker 3: You and a lot of other people are preparing for

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love it because finally people have

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Speaker 2: There's definitely been an increase in different run clubs, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's great. It's getting more people outdoors, getting

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Speaker 2: when you start to run, you realize you are capable

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Speaker 3: It's been really interesting as well, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: They get confidence. To be honest, I think women have

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Speaker 2: I think when they start that process and they realize,

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Speaker 2: I've just done a marathon, and I've seen that firsthand

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Speaker 3: I totally understand what you mean. I feel like everything's

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Speaker 4: For a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk though, about some of the challenges

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Speaker 3: What have you found in your experience of some of

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Speaker 2: I think for women, when you think about how we,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really big challenge. But I'd also

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Speaker 2: women to really question that thought, because if you get

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Speaker 2: and running can be that, but it can also be

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Speaker 3: Okay, curious, and then what is your advice for women

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Speaker 2: If you're starting a running journey, you can join an

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Speaker 3: Four years Sleep hygiene advice has been clear put your

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Speaker 3: blue light, and don't doom scroll TikTok if you want

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Speaker 3: major analysis published in Sleep Medicine Reviews found no good

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Speaker 3: evidence that screen time before bed makes it significantly harder

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Speaker 4: Doctor Jen Walsh from.

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Speaker 3: The Center for Sleep Science at the University of Western

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Speaker 3: Australia told Our Health Podcasts well that strict no screens

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Speaker 2: That screens are bad stay away from them.

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Speaker 3: If your bedtime phone habit is reading, relaxing, listening to

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Speaker 3: Even high energy TV or gaming didn't drastically change sleep quality.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, lying in bed for a long

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Speaker 3: In short, it's not about the device but your habits

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Speaker 3: But if you are scrolling at one am, that's when

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Speaker 3: it might be time to set a limit.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 4: us today.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if you want to learn more about how to

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Speaker 3: have a blissful night's sleep, I've linked the full episode

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Speaker 3: of well in our show notes for you. Go and

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Speaker 3: have a listen to that after this. The Quikie is

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Speaker 3: produced by me, Taylor Strano and Tarlie Blackman.