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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumama's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. Are you that friend that's always running late,

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Speaker 2: of being late sends your anxiety through the roof. Today

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Speaker 2: we're exploring our complicated relationship with time, the concepts of

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Speaker 2: less than two months and already Donald Trump has managed

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Speaker 2: to unite the world in opposition against him. Amelia Lester

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Speaker 2: is back for another Trump date. Before we get there,

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Speaker 2: here's Claire Murphy with the latest from the Quickie news

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Speaker 2: room for Thursday, March thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. A new study from the Australian Council of

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Speaker 1: so Social Services has revealed that people are skipping meals,

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Speaker 1: going without medicines, selling their household items, or borrowing money

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Speaker 1: to pay power bills. Renters, those on income support or

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Speaker 1: efforts to reduce electricity use like turning off lights and

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Speaker 1: and government programs to help offset powerbill hikes, many are

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Speaker 1: going without to ensure the light's stay on, with almost

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Speaker 1: other essentials, thirty four percent said they borrowed money from friends,

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Speaker 1: and thirty three percent borrowed from lenders. Australian steel industry

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Speaker 1: officials say that US President Donald Trump is using trade

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Speaker 1: tariffs to steal Australia's domestic steel industry. The twenty five

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Speaker 1: ounce of steel made at our steel works. Australia sends

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Speaker 1: nations in enduring friendship. The latest Closing the Gap data

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Speaker 1: Two friends of the late Anna Nicole Smith, who've written

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Speaker 2: Next another week, another Trump date. Last week, we, like

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Speaker 2: Talking it up to just another day in presidential paradise,

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Speaker 2: Trump has since moved on to other matters. In fact,

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Speaker 2: yesterday we finally got word that, despite attempts to soften

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Australia did not get the carve out that

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Speaker 3: In any case, economists agree that tariffs which are imposed

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Speaker 3: here is Mel Gibson. Basically, what happened was. There are,

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Speaker 3: A Republican president, Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty four signed

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Speaker 2: The fact that that's even the title of that working

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine being brought into work. You work at

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Speaker 2: Is this just another example of Trump doing favors for

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Speaker 3: Yes. And there's another example of this from last week,

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Speaker 2: We don't know why Andrew Tate is necessarily back in

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Speaker 3: But it is interesting to note that the Tate case

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Speaker 3: It would be a mistake to think that everyone in

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Speaker 3: Tate return to Florida, which is where he'd been living,

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Speaker 3: But the Attorney general there announced on Tate's return that

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Speaker 3: I think is really an interesting divergence from Trump on

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Speaker 2: Before we let you go, can we touch on education.

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Speaker 2: The new Education Secretary, Linda McMahon, who, it must be noted,

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Speaker 2: Well, the pipeline from wrestling franchise to Education secretary is short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So disbanding the Education Department has long been a

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Speaker 3: Trump has put his particular spin on it, and he

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Speaker 3: But the department doesn't actually set curricula. It basically is

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Speaker 3: set up to help low income students. The reason why

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Speaker 3: they're sort of starving the department rather than shutting it

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, the people who are going to be

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Speaker 2: So already we've seen about thirteen hundred workers laid off.

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Speaker 2: They're essentially wanting to harve the amount of people that

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Speaker 2: Chicago and Cleveland. Can you just tell us a bit

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Speaker 2: about the Federal Education Department sends money across the states,

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Speaker 2: but the states themselves decide how schools are run. If

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Speaker 3: So it's states and districts who set the curricula for

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Speaker 3: But yes, doing this is going to affect poor states

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of this term hurry sickness? It was

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Speaker 2: This isn't just about personality types. Our modern world is

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Speaker 2: For example, we're expected to succeed in our careers, meet deadlines,

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Speaker 2: hours of sleep amongst it all. Doctor Lakedis says this

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Speaker 4: Who doesn't get completely occupied with a hobby or a conversation,

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Speaker 2: But for some people, particularly those with ADHD, time blindness

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Speaker 5: Flow is typically associated with positive emotions when you're doing

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Speaker 2: So what can we do about it? For hurry sickness,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Laket's recommends starting with a simple question, am I

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Speaker 6: Step one of nailing your to do list is actually

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Speaker 2: But perhaps the most important thing is recognizing that neither

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Speaker 2: In fact, Dr Leukety's points out that hurry sickness often

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Speaker 2: I actually in a hurry? Thanks for taking some time

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Speaker 2: to feature mind with us today. Both of those articles

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Speaker 2: time blindness will be linked in the show notes, so

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Speaker 2: will our new podcast Biz Make sure you're following them too.

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Speaker 2: The Quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano, and Claire Murphy,

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Speaker 2: with audio production by Lou Hill.