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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel

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Speaker 2: guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the

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Speaker 2: daily Podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccaren,

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Speaker 2: and it is twenty twenty five, the new year.

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Speaker 1: It feels like spaceship error.

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Speaker 2: It does, doesn't it. So today we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the best products that we feel launched in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, Can they be topped our ins and outs

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Speaker 2: for the new year, And a few little beauty tips

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Speaker 2: that we think the ubies should take with them this year.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything?

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Speaker 2: Do you ask plenty questions?

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Speaker 1: All right, Kelly, what's your first in Okay? Skin flooding? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just looked at me like see what no?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: By by Ubi's what is love? Skin flood Love it

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Speaker 1: off it skin flooding? If you're new, I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: that before. I just love the way that it makes

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Speaker 1: my skin look and feel. Because we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: it is the closest thing to actual glass skin, So

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Speaker 1: it's heaven for dry dehydrated queens. It's a method that

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Speaker 1: involves drenching your skin with layer upon layer of targeted

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Speaker 1: hydrating ingredients like a drink for your skin. So picture

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Speaker 1: your skin has tiny little channels beneath the surface.

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Speaker 2: Little roads. I love how you're doing, Like you're just

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Speaker 2: giving yourself spirit fingers on your.

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Speaker 1: Spirit fingers all over my face. When your skin is damp,

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Speaker 1: the humectants or moisture magnets in your skin care like

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Speaker 1: hyaluronic acid or glycerine, salacilic acid, etc. All of the

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Speaker 1: good ingredients will travel further down these channels, penetrating deeper

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Speaker 1: into your skin surface and maximizing the benefits of each ingredient.

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Speaker 1: So when I'm like in a good skincare rhythm, I

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Speaker 1: do it on my rest nights when I'm skin cycling.

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Speaker 1: And that, if you haven't heard of it before, is

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Speaker 1: when you'll do like a retinal one night, chemical ex

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Speaker 1: folling at the next, and then you have one or

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Speaker 1: two rest nights where you just flood it with hydration basically,

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Speaker 1: and I'll make sure it like dries a little bit

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Speaker 1: in between each step, and if I let it dry

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Speaker 1: too much, then I'll just refresh with a mist again.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it can sort of like build up too much

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Speaker 2: But so would you do this in the morning, I

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Speaker 1: Can dry, yeah, tipless intense degree. Then I wouldn't not

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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't then put a really thick moisturize oil

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, sometimes I do.

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Speaker 2: You can. I like skin flooding. I mean I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people go, oh my gosh, my skins dry.

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Speaker 2: I need a really thick cream and it's like no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: lots of thin layers of hydration and then you can

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Speaker 2: lock it all in. Yeah, but if it's just whacking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the skin like tiny little channels. The

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Speaker 1: needs thin serums to get down into your skins deeper.

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Speaker 2: As I recommend skin flooding and I'm combo, but I

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Speaker 1: I'm into it.

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Speaker 2: I'm into it. My first in is I think twenty

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Speaker 2: quote unquote natural.

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Speaker 1: So what I mean by that is skin care and fuse.

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Speaker 2: Makeup that lets your freckle show through, your natural hair texture,

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Speaker 2: that's you totally. I don't mean natural, organic and drinking

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Speaker 1: You just mean not covering up every single thing that

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Speaker 2: Correct. Well, I'm going to be doing that, so join me.

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Speaker 1: I'm into it.

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Speaker 2: I'm into it. I think the industry in itself and

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Speaker 2: we as consumers will continue to care for the skin barrier. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so last year we just saw we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to see so many more peptides and seramides, septide ceramides,

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Speaker 2: I think that will continue. And same with scalp. I

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Speaker 2: let's care for that too. I'm into it. I'm into

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Speaker 2: it all right, Kelly.

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Speaker 1: What's your out face tune? And those shitty filters that

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I just forget that they do this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: in the industry, So imagine the people at home. They

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Speaker 1: a show called Selling Sunset? Yes, okay, it's about these

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Speaker 2: I watched the Nicole Kitman thing lately. I think it

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Speaker 1: Sometimes some actresses will have it in their contract. However,

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, never ever had that artistic They would

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Speaker 1: cameras these days, and shows video shows like Selling Sunset

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Speaker 1: that's basically what they do. The Kardashians do it on

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Speaker 1: America does it. So just remember that I think it's bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know it on video.

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Speaker 1: This is actually ties in with you. You're out or in

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Speaker 1: embracing your more natural beauty, like don't face tune out

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Speaker 2: These are drawing their freckles on or patting them with body.

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Speaker 2: My out is inpatient people, because I'm one of them.

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Speaker 2: Results take time. So if you're using actives, particularly if

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Speaker 2: you were using a vitamin A, even a hydroquinone, which

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Speaker 2: is going to help fade pigmentation. It's not going to

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Speaker 2: work in a week, even if marketing says it works

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Speaker 2: but I think we expect you know, we're in the

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Speaker 2: get whatever you can get quick delivery, everything's one minute.

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Speaker 2: Skin care takes time, and caring for your skin takes time.

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Speaker 2: It takes patience and also diligence. So you can't just

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Speaker 2: do good skincare for a week and then think you're set.

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Speaker 2: So out is being impatient. We're going to be patient.

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Speaker 2: We're going to stick to it, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: Not give up and move on to something else. After

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Speaker 2: Nothings.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we're going to take a quick

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Speaker 2: But after then, our big gets beauty tips to take

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Speaker 2: with you into twenty and twenty five. All right, Kels,

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Speaker 2: So we give a lot of tips here every single day,

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Speaker 2: every single week. So we're each going to bring just

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, My first one is to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: skin care marketing. Glass skin is face tune, buckchuliol is

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Speaker 1: not the same thing as retinal. Clean beauty is a

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Speaker 1: ridiculous phrase that means nothing. It pretty much started with

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Speaker 1: derived and non toxic. And she green washing green washing. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's a marketing term and it's a marketing ploy. She

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Speaker 1: or suspected to harm human health or that of the planet.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that phrase within itself is ridiculous. The

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Speaker 1: Correct like that, So agree, it's just ridiculous. Pregnancy safe,

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Speaker 1: fear hungering, You're absolutely fine. Just stay away from prescriptions,

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Speaker 1: skincare and content. Creator recommendations are only for if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for something in that category. We've said it before,

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Speaker 1: we'll say it again. You do not need another hyaluronic

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Speaker 1: acid serum. It is if you are looking for a

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Speaker 2: That was many pearls of wisdom. I feel like it

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Speaker 2: was just you in there.

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Speaker 1: No, it sits under the umbrella of just like critical

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Speaker 1: care marketing, yeah and critical thinking, like yeah, use your

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Speaker 1: own thoughts instead of going, oh, because I'm a suckerphone something,

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Speaker 1: I'll just buy it if I am a sucker, huge sucker.

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Speaker 1: So this is a reminder for myself as well, what's

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Speaker 2: Mine kind of ties into one of your points there.

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Speaker 2: And because it's the new year, now is a fantastic

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Speaker 2: time to clean out your skincare and make up. Do

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Speaker 2: a bit of a stock take. So what I want

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Speaker 2: you to do is Checkcksparry dates, analyze what you use

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Speaker 2: and what you don't use. I'm sure you're gonna find

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Speaker 2: I love you two knew you to us. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening to this special New Year episode. You bies.

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Speaker 1: We're back to our regular You Beauty episodes from next week,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you tune in. We've got so much planned.

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Speaker 2: Your Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt, Bye Bye,