1 00:00:10,425 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,305 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:22,065 Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. 5 00:00:22,265 --> 00:00:25,265 Speaker 2: I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel 6 00:00:25,345 --> 00:00:31,065 Speaker 2: jailty about it. Hello, and welcome to EB the daily 7 00:00:31,105 --> 00:00:34,065 Speaker 2: podcast for Your Face. I'm Aaron Doherty and welcome to 8 00:00:34,345 --> 00:00:37,345 Speaker 2: the formula. Every week I sit down with celebs and 9 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:39,425 Speaker 2: some of the biggest names in beauty and take a 10 00:00:39,465 --> 00:00:43,265 Speaker 2: look into their skink, caroutines and ubis. It's the beginning 11 00:00:43,305 --> 00:00:46,825 Speaker 2: of the year. Why are we tired already? Okay, maybe 12 00:00:46,825 --> 00:00:49,785 Speaker 2: I'm just projecting here as I am with child, but 13 00:00:49,945 --> 00:00:52,305 Speaker 2: I wanted to bring in an expert today to talk 14 00:00:52,465 --> 00:00:58,025 Speaker 2: all things relaxation, skin rejuvenation, and kind of tricking everyone 15 00:00:58,065 --> 00:01:01,145 Speaker 2: into thinking you've got your shit together. I've brought in 16 00:01:01,545 --> 00:01:04,825 Speaker 2: the lovely Tagan Natoli, who you may know from Momma 17 00:01:04,865 --> 00:01:07,825 Speaker 2: MEA's parenting podcast This Glorious Mess. 18 00:01:08,145 --> 00:01:10,425 Speaker 1: Tagan is a co founder of t to very. 19 00:01:10,265 --> 00:01:14,705 Speaker 2: Successful beauty businesses, Bump Day Spa, which specializes in pre 20 00:01:15,145 --> 00:01:19,705 Speaker 2: and postnatal treatments, and of course, Brillow Beauty, a beautiful 21 00:01:19,745 --> 00:01:23,025 Speaker 2: bodycare brand for Expectant and New Mums, which she runs 22 00:01:23,065 --> 00:01:26,545 Speaker 2: with our very own Lee Campbell. In between running two 23 00:01:26,585 --> 00:01:29,865 Speaker 2: businesses and hosting a podcast, Teagan is also a mum 24 00:01:29,945 --> 00:01:34,225 Speaker 2: to three kids, so the juggle is real. On today's show, 25 00:01:34,305 --> 00:01:36,425 Speaker 2: we're going to be taking a deep dive into some 26 00:01:36,465 --> 00:01:39,225 Speaker 2: of the best spar and skin treatments on the market 27 00:01:39,545 --> 00:01:43,665 Speaker 2: from the expert herself and Teagan's Holy Grail products for 28 00:01:43,705 --> 00:01:45,985 Speaker 2: a five minute busy mum glow up. 29 00:01:46,505 --> 00:01:52,625 Speaker 1: You are such beautiful skill. But how Gigan? Thank you 30 00:01:52,665 --> 00:01:54,745 Speaker 1: so much for swinging by. Have you ever been on 31 00:01:54,825 --> 00:01:57,905 Speaker 1: New Beauty and I invited you? 32 00:01:58,225 --> 00:01:59,865 Speaker 3: So funny when I told her I was coming on 33 00:01:59,905 --> 00:02:02,025 Speaker 3: the other day, She's like, you're going on New Beauty 34 00:02:02,105 --> 00:02:04,985 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I've got stuff to bring to the 35 00:02:05,025 --> 00:02:05,785 Speaker 3: beauty table. 36 00:02:05,905 --> 00:02:08,465 Speaker 1: Come on. Look, she would strongly disagree. 37 00:02:08,545 --> 00:02:10,825 Speaker 2: Every now and then she's got like a spendy R 38 00:02:10,865 --> 00:02:12,385 Speaker 2: savory recommendation from you. 39 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:15,545 Speaker 1: So I bet, I bet it's the savings from me. 40 00:02:16,905 --> 00:02:18,865 Speaker 3: But yeah, every now and then I like to be like, hey, 41 00:02:18,905 --> 00:02:21,745 Speaker 3: I've discovered these and I feel like very special when 42 00:02:21,785 --> 00:02:23,825 Speaker 3: like she's not heard of anything, or like I'm the 43 00:02:23,865 --> 00:02:24,905 Speaker 3: one introducing her to. 44 00:02:25,065 --> 00:02:28,185 Speaker 2: Pretty hard to I'm like, it's pretty hard to do that. 45 00:02:28,545 --> 00:02:30,145 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming on. I'm so 46 00:02:30,225 --> 00:02:31,185 Speaker 2: happy to have you in. 47 00:02:31,425 --> 00:02:35,065 Speaker 1: Thank you. You are the queen of pregnancy beauty. Oh 48 00:02:35,105 --> 00:02:38,345 Speaker 1: and I mean to live up to especially coming from 49 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:40,265 Speaker 1: a pregnant person. I'm in there. 50 00:02:40,305 --> 00:02:43,545 Speaker 2: I'm in the thick of it. So I've really selfishly 51 00:02:43,865 --> 00:02:44,905 Speaker 2: brought you on this show. 52 00:02:45,225 --> 00:02:47,665 Speaker 1: Great. I'm not just for my purpose. 53 00:02:47,945 --> 00:02:51,065 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's lots of listeners out there that need 54 00:02:51,105 --> 00:02:54,145 Speaker 2: your help to I need your tips. I want you 55 00:02:54,345 --> 00:02:56,265 Speaker 2: to start by telling me a little bit about your 56 00:02:56,305 --> 00:03:00,265 Speaker 2: skin and your skin's journey and what kind of like 57 00:03:01,025 --> 00:03:02,585 Speaker 2: challenges you've experienced. 58 00:03:02,825 --> 00:03:06,025 Speaker 3: Yeah, so my twin girls are now nearly seven, and 59 00:03:06,065 --> 00:03:09,025 Speaker 3: my son, who I had twelve months after having my twins, 60 00:03:09,105 --> 00:03:12,185 Speaker 3: is now nearly six, so pregnancy was. 61 00:03:12,145 --> 00:03:13,785 Speaker 1: At quite a while ago for me. 62 00:03:14,065 --> 00:03:17,145 Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely just all the commons, Like I think 63 00:03:17,185 --> 00:03:20,825 Speaker 3: you know, and you're probably starting to experience, your skin 64 00:03:20,945 --> 00:03:23,385 Speaker 3: really goes on a journey when you're pregnant, whether it's 65 00:03:23,905 --> 00:03:28,545 Speaker 3: your hormones changing. I know I got some really bad malasma, 66 00:03:28,665 --> 00:03:31,705 Speaker 3: like all my pigment came out. A lot of people 67 00:03:31,985 --> 00:03:35,905 Speaker 3: experience pregnancy acne, you know, things like that. So even 68 00:03:35,985 --> 00:03:38,385 Speaker 3: just the general texture of your skin can change. You 69 00:03:38,465 --> 00:03:40,825 Speaker 3: might go from dry to oily early to dry. It's 70 00:03:40,945 --> 00:03:44,385 Speaker 3: just a real rollercoaster ride. It does change, and sometimes 71 00:03:44,385 --> 00:03:46,745 Speaker 3: it's temporary sometimes, you know, I know some of my 72 00:03:46,825 --> 00:03:50,825 Speaker 3: pigments still there from pregnancy and still working on ways 73 00:03:50,825 --> 00:03:51,425 Speaker 3: to treat that. 74 00:03:51,585 --> 00:03:54,545 Speaker 1: But it's a ride. It's such a mixed bag. 75 00:03:54,585 --> 00:03:57,865 Speaker 2: And I feel like, even just like me and my 76 00:03:58,065 --> 00:04:01,945 Speaker 2: friendship group, everyone experiences different skin issues. Like I have 77 00:04:02,145 --> 00:04:05,105 Speaker 2: really bad kind of like hormonal pimples at the start. 78 00:04:05,265 --> 00:04:08,625 Speaker 2: Now my skin's kind of calming down. I'm like, don't 79 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:10,945 Speaker 2: touch anything, change anything exactly. 80 00:04:10,985 --> 00:04:13,145 Speaker 3: And then you've got the women that like glow and 81 00:04:13,225 --> 00:04:17,105 Speaker 3: your life, you know. So it's like pregnancy itself, you know, 82 00:04:17,185 --> 00:04:21,145 Speaker 3: like everyone experiences a totally different journey. So, yeah, your 83 00:04:21,145 --> 00:04:23,945 Speaker 3: skin will change and you can adapt and roll with it. 84 00:04:24,145 --> 00:04:27,585 Speaker 2: What about some of these challenges kind of inspired you 85 00:04:27,705 --> 00:04:29,785 Speaker 2: to create Brilloh with Lee. 86 00:04:30,065 --> 00:04:34,025 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Brillo Beauty is certainly more body care solutions 87 00:04:34,105 --> 00:04:38,025 Speaker 3: for pregnancy and postpartum. So I have the pregnancy day Spar, 88 00:04:38,185 --> 00:04:41,025 Speaker 3: bump day Spar, and like, you know, we had a 89 00:04:41,025 --> 00:04:44,145 Speaker 3: few brands that we stocked as retail, But I just 90 00:04:44,185 --> 00:04:48,305 Speaker 3: thought what was missing for me was the continuation of 91 00:04:48,425 --> 00:04:50,825 Speaker 3: products through to postpartum as well. You know, like you 92 00:04:50,905 --> 00:04:53,425 Speaker 3: might find a belly oil or a belly butter, but 93 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:56,425 Speaker 3: you know, to have those postpartum products that you continue 94 00:04:56,505 --> 00:04:59,425 Speaker 3: using within the same range as well, and just taking 95 00:04:59,425 --> 00:05:01,625 Speaker 3: the guesswork out of it for mums, like and especially 96 00:05:01,665 --> 00:05:04,825 Speaker 3: new mums. You know there's do's and don'ts and things 97 00:05:04,865 --> 00:05:07,065 Speaker 3: like that during pregnancy. But to know that a brand 98 00:05:07,225 --> 00:05:10,985 Speaker 3: is purely formulated and designed and created for pregnancy and 99 00:05:11,025 --> 00:05:13,945 Speaker 3: postpartum and beyond, I think it's just one less thing 100 00:05:13,945 --> 00:05:15,785 Speaker 3: for mom to have to worry about, and you know 101 00:05:15,865 --> 00:05:18,865 Speaker 3: that it's safe for you, it's safe for baby, and 102 00:05:18,985 --> 00:05:21,065 Speaker 3: it's going to work its job on your changing body 103 00:05:21,065 --> 00:05:21,865 Speaker 3: and changing skin. 104 00:05:22,185 --> 00:05:25,585 Speaker 2: Because it is such a confusing time, I think, because 105 00:05:25,665 --> 00:05:27,865 Speaker 2: you know there's certain ingredients you're not supposed to use, 106 00:05:27,865 --> 00:05:31,025 Speaker 2: certain things you should use, and you're looking at different 107 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,105 Speaker 2: oils and you're looking at different things that are going 108 00:05:33,145 --> 00:05:36,265 Speaker 2: to like hydrate your growing belly, and yeah, it is 109 00:05:36,305 --> 00:05:37,305 Speaker 2: really confusing and. 110 00:05:37,265 --> 00:05:39,265 Speaker 3: It's hard to know, you know, like for essential oils, 111 00:05:39,265 --> 00:05:41,345 Speaker 3: for instance, you know people might go, oh my gosh, 112 00:05:41,345 --> 00:05:42,785 Speaker 3: that's such a big pregnancy. 113 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:43,025 Speaker 1: No. 114 00:05:43,025 --> 00:05:45,585 Speaker 3: No, But then it all comes down to how much 115 00:05:45,665 --> 00:05:47,785 Speaker 3: is in what you're using, you know, and what essential 116 00:05:47,785 --> 00:05:49,705 Speaker 3: oil or things like that. You know, there's the fine 117 00:05:49,745 --> 00:05:52,505 Speaker 3: print of your do's and don't So what can be 118 00:05:52,905 --> 00:05:56,185 Speaker 3: alarming to start with, if you used correctly, might turn 119 00:05:56,225 --> 00:05:56,945 Speaker 3: out to be okay. 120 00:05:57,185 --> 00:05:59,585 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about bump day spa. So 121 00:05:59,785 --> 00:06:01,865 Speaker 2: you've touched on it just before. Can you give me 122 00:06:01,905 --> 00:06:04,065 Speaker 2: a little bit of an insight into some of your 123 00:06:04,105 --> 00:06:07,185 Speaker 2: favorite treatments. What are your favorite like spa treatments? 124 00:06:07,625 --> 00:06:09,145 Speaker 1: Why are they so good? Yes? 125 00:06:09,385 --> 00:06:12,505 Speaker 3: So we've had bump Days bar for nearly eight years 126 00:06:12,545 --> 00:06:16,025 Speaker 3: now and we've got two in Sydney, another one up 127 00:06:16,025 --> 00:06:18,945 Speaker 3: in Brisy and another one potentially up in Queensland. 128 00:06:19,545 --> 00:06:22,705 Speaker 1: Way, well, there's a pregnant women. They need their treatment. 129 00:06:23,625 --> 00:06:26,305 Speaker 3: I feel like for a pregnant woman, any treatment is 130 00:06:26,305 --> 00:06:29,225 Speaker 3: a beautiful treatment. And the whole point of us creating 131 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:33,025 Speaker 3: bump Days bub was an experience for her, like as 132 00:06:33,065 --> 00:06:34,905 Speaker 3: you would know where you're at in your pregnancy. 133 00:06:35,065 --> 00:06:36,585 Speaker 1: It's so clinical. You are the. 134 00:06:36,665 --> 00:06:39,505 Speaker 3: Vessel like just to get this baby here, and it's 135 00:06:39,585 --> 00:06:43,785 Speaker 3: like poking and prodding and very sterile and you know, 136 00:06:43,905 --> 00:06:46,385 Speaker 3: it's very clinical, and so we wanted to do the 137 00:06:46,425 --> 00:06:48,745 Speaker 3: complete opposite to that at bump days. Bas from the 138 00:06:48,785 --> 00:06:51,865 Speaker 3: second she walks in, she's having like a beautiful experience, 139 00:06:52,385 --> 00:06:54,985 Speaker 3: you know, from the towels and the drink when you arrive, 140 00:06:55,145 --> 00:06:59,225 Speaker 3: to the second you're leaving and just pampering, just complete 141 00:06:59,225 --> 00:07:02,425 Speaker 3: time for mum. And at the beginning of each treatment 142 00:07:02,425 --> 00:07:04,825 Speaker 3: we do a little bit of guided meditation to just 143 00:07:04,905 --> 00:07:08,185 Speaker 3: allow her to switch off and relax and kind of 144 00:07:08,425 --> 00:07:11,905 Speaker 3: allow herself to unwind and to have this moment for herself. 145 00:07:11,945 --> 00:07:15,625 Speaker 3: And it's amazing what that permission can do to you know, 146 00:07:15,705 --> 00:07:18,585 Speaker 3: a woman in general, let alone a carrying mother. So 147 00:07:19,385 --> 00:07:22,505 Speaker 3: a pregnancy massage. Who doesn't love a pregnancy I'm singing. 148 00:07:22,305 --> 00:07:24,785 Speaker 2: An in for my pregnancy massage because I think it's 149 00:07:24,825 --> 00:07:26,425 Speaker 2: one of these things. I keep being like, I think 150 00:07:26,425 --> 00:07:28,545 Speaker 2: I need to be like more pregnant to have it, 151 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:29,185 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 152 00:07:29,265 --> 00:07:30,265 Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to. 153 00:07:30,265 --> 00:07:34,065 Speaker 3: Be like no and feeling at this is the thing, 154 00:07:34,185 --> 00:07:36,865 Speaker 3: you know, like people, even myself when I was pregnant, 155 00:07:36,905 --> 00:07:39,585 Speaker 3: believe it or not, I like I'd go for every 156 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:41,225 Speaker 3: now and then, not as often as I should have, 157 00:07:41,305 --> 00:07:42,865 Speaker 3: but every now and then I go for a massage 158 00:07:42,865 --> 00:07:44,825 Speaker 3: at bump and every time I'd walk out of there 159 00:07:44,825 --> 00:07:47,305 Speaker 3: going like, why am I doing you know, why aren't 160 00:07:47,305 --> 00:07:49,545 Speaker 3: I doing this weekly? Why an't I doing this fortnightly? 161 00:07:49,665 --> 00:07:53,265 Speaker 3: You know, it has so many benefits. Helps with your sleep, 162 00:07:53,425 --> 00:07:57,225 Speaker 3: reduce stress, your blood flow. Like you don't actually realize 163 00:07:57,585 --> 00:07:59,945 Speaker 3: how good it is until you're there, and how much 164 00:07:59,985 --> 00:08:01,865 Speaker 3: you needed it until it's over, you. 165 00:08:01,825 --> 00:08:04,105 Speaker 2: Know, do you're carrying and all these niggling pains and 166 00:08:04,105 --> 00:08:05,865 Speaker 2: then you're like maybe I'll do something about it, and 167 00:08:05,865 --> 00:08:06,225 Speaker 2: you're like. 168 00:08:06,185 --> 00:08:09,225 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you don't have to be in pain 169 00:08:09,425 --> 00:08:11,825 Speaker 3: to have a massage, you know. Like as women, I 170 00:08:11,905 --> 00:08:16,025 Speaker 3: feel like we're like, well, let's wait till we yes 171 00:08:16,905 --> 00:08:20,785 Speaker 3: exactly exactly. And I just think, yeah, like you're allowed 172 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,825 Speaker 3: to do it just to feel good and for self care, 173 00:08:22,865 --> 00:08:25,865 Speaker 3: and it's so so important, especially when you know you 174 00:08:25,985 --> 00:08:28,945 Speaker 3: are putting so much energy into carrying this little baby 175 00:08:28,945 --> 00:08:31,385 Speaker 3: and growing this baby, so we need to look after 176 00:08:31,465 --> 00:08:33,185 Speaker 3: you as much as we need to look after baby. 177 00:08:39,225 --> 00:08:41,545 Speaker 1: I mean, what is your self carroty, give us the 178 00:08:41,625 --> 00:08:42,425 Speaker 1: dirty details. 179 00:08:44,945 --> 00:08:47,945 Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about your skin caroutine. You've 180 00:08:47,945 --> 00:08:50,785 Speaker 2: got a beautiful, glowing skin, so you're doing something right. 181 00:08:51,265 --> 00:08:53,385 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just doing whatever Lee Camp tells me to do. 182 00:08:54,745 --> 00:08:58,105 Speaker 3: I'm the beginner, so I've only just started getting into 183 00:08:58,105 --> 00:09:00,945 Speaker 3: a routine, I must say later in life. So I've 184 00:09:00,945 --> 00:09:03,745 Speaker 3: got all the gear and no idea. But what I'm 185 00:09:03,785 --> 00:09:07,865 Speaker 3: really getting into is I previously didn't love serums, so 186 00:09:07,985 --> 00:09:11,025 Speaker 3: I wasn't a serum girl. I didn't like how they 187 00:09:11,065 --> 00:09:14,465 Speaker 3: would leave like my skin feel. Yes, it was a 188 00:09:14,465 --> 00:09:16,985 Speaker 3: bit sticky for me. But when Lee told me that 189 00:09:17,065 --> 00:09:20,825 Speaker 3: you put your boistroizer on after the sirrum stop again, 190 00:09:21,745 --> 00:09:22,865 Speaker 3: I started. 191 00:09:22,465 --> 00:09:23,865 Speaker 1: To really enjoy it. 192 00:09:23,945 --> 00:09:25,585 Speaker 3: Well, no, I don't even know what I did. I 193 00:09:25,625 --> 00:09:27,065 Speaker 3: think I'd just whack anything on. 194 00:09:27,065 --> 00:09:32,985 Speaker 1: In whatever order, you know. But again like rhyming body care, 195 00:09:33,105 --> 00:09:35,025 Speaker 1: not face care. But no. 196 00:09:35,145 --> 00:09:38,625 Speaker 3: So now I'm really loving hyaluronic or a nicinemid serum 197 00:09:39,385 --> 00:09:42,305 Speaker 3: because of brightening. So, because my skin is quite prone 198 00:09:42,345 --> 00:09:45,945 Speaker 3: to pigment, I love skinstitute for my serums. That's what 199 00:09:46,025 --> 00:09:48,785 Speaker 3: I'm veering towards at the moment. At the moment, I'm 200 00:09:48,865 --> 00:09:53,625 Speaker 3: loving Ultraceutical's moisturizer. This is really bad because my skin 201 00:09:53,745 --> 00:09:56,385 Speaker 3: is I've actually got really sensitive skin and I'm very 202 00:09:56,385 --> 00:10:01,105 Speaker 3: allergic to sunscreen which make like facial skincare like very 203 00:10:01,145 --> 00:10:05,025 Speaker 3: hard spicy as well. Yes, yes, and of course now 204 00:10:05,065 --> 00:10:07,025 Speaker 3: that we're all older, we know that and especially for 205 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:10,385 Speaker 3: pigmenting skin, sunscreen is like you know, number one. So 206 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:13,305 Speaker 3: the one I'm loving at the moment, which if you've 207 00:10:13,345 --> 00:10:15,745 Speaker 3: got sensitive skin like me, is maybe one to try 208 00:10:15,945 --> 00:10:17,265 Speaker 3: is Beauty of Josin. 209 00:10:17,465 --> 00:10:21,385 Speaker 1: I think it's cool Korean brand, beauty brand. Yes, Like 210 00:10:21,425 --> 00:10:22,505 Speaker 1: it's not sunscreeny. 211 00:10:23,185 --> 00:10:27,025 Speaker 3: It's like very watery based and it's like rice probiotic 212 00:10:27,145 --> 00:10:29,065 Speaker 3: and it just I love it because you don't feel 213 00:10:29,065 --> 00:10:31,145 Speaker 3: like putting sunscreen on your face. It has no smell 214 00:10:31,225 --> 00:10:34,105 Speaker 3: like a sunscreen fifty plus SPF. 215 00:10:34,025 --> 00:10:37,065 Speaker 2: So you can get that brand beauty and more nudy 216 00:10:37,105 --> 00:10:38,265 Speaker 2: glow yes. 217 00:10:38,185 --> 00:10:40,145 Speaker 1: Nudy glow yes yes. 218 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:44,225 Speaker 3: And they're bringing out more and more of the SBF products, 219 00:10:44,225 --> 00:10:47,225 Speaker 3: so they've done an SBF serum. They've got lots and 220 00:10:47,265 --> 00:10:49,585 Speaker 3: lots of SBF products, which, like I said, if you're 221 00:10:49,625 --> 00:10:52,505 Speaker 3: a sensitive skin sally like me, yeah, that's a good one. 222 00:10:52,545 --> 00:10:55,425 Speaker 2: And I love how you've got ingredients like hyaluronic acid 223 00:10:55,585 --> 00:10:57,345 Speaker 2: and nice cinema because. 224 00:10:57,145 --> 00:11:00,825 Speaker 1: I feel like, go on, tell me such good old randing. Okay, good, 225 00:11:00,985 --> 00:11:02,665 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, great. 226 00:11:02,505 --> 00:11:05,465 Speaker 2: Nice cinema. I feel like every week we've got an expert, you. 227 00:11:05,385 --> 00:11:08,145 Speaker 1: Know, recommends that. Yes, okay, I'm on the right track. 228 00:11:08,225 --> 00:11:10,785 Speaker 1: You're on the the red just looking good. 229 00:11:10,865 --> 00:11:11,025 Speaker 3: Girl. 230 00:11:11,145 --> 00:11:12,865 Speaker 1: I love that you're here to Learne, but I'm hit 231 00:11:12,905 --> 00:11:13,465 Speaker 1: a Larne. 232 00:11:13,945 --> 00:11:15,945 Speaker 2: Tell me that your night routine. Is it much of 233 00:11:15,985 --> 00:11:19,225 Speaker 2: the same or do you use like heavier products? Yeah, look, 234 00:11:19,265 --> 00:11:21,545 Speaker 2: I try it's much of the same. But then every 235 00:11:21,825 --> 00:11:25,905 Speaker 2: couple of days, I've just gotten into retinol, which has 236 00:11:25,945 --> 00:11:28,145 Speaker 2: been a game changer for me. My skin's loving that 237 00:11:28,225 --> 00:11:33,345 Speaker 2: because I'm not loving my face with injectibles lately. And 238 00:11:33,385 --> 00:11:37,985 Speaker 2: so the recommendation was monthly skin needling and retinol. 239 00:11:38,225 --> 00:11:40,065 Speaker 1: So that's what I've been trying, and I've been loving it. 240 00:11:40,105 --> 00:11:40,585 Speaker 1: What have you got? 241 00:11:40,625 --> 00:11:40,905 Speaker 2: What do you do? 242 00:11:41,065 --> 00:11:43,985 Speaker 3: So I've been using the Alpha H Beauty Sleep retinal, 243 00:11:44,185 --> 00:11:47,105 Speaker 3: So I do that usually about twice a week, and 244 00:11:47,185 --> 00:11:48,905 Speaker 3: that like the next morning when you have a shower, 245 00:11:48,945 --> 00:11:51,385 Speaker 3: it's like your skin is just glowing. 246 00:11:51,625 --> 00:11:53,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, Tell me a little bit about when you 247 00:11:53,865 --> 00:11:57,265 Speaker 2: started bringing retinal into your routine, because I have a 248 00:11:57,305 --> 00:11:59,145 Speaker 2: few girls in the office that have asked me that 249 00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:01,465 Speaker 2: you know, in their late thirties, and they're kind of 250 00:12:01,505 --> 00:12:02,265 Speaker 2: like where. 251 00:12:02,025 --> 00:12:04,785 Speaker 1: Do I start? What do I use? Were you using 252 00:12:04,825 --> 00:12:06,545 Speaker 1: it quite slow? Like once a week? 253 00:12:06,705 --> 00:12:08,345 Speaker 3: So it's interesting because a lot of people are like, oh, 254 00:12:08,345 --> 00:12:12,385 Speaker 3: doesn't it make you flaky. I haven't experienced that before yet. 255 00:12:12,505 --> 00:12:15,585 Speaker 3: As I said, I have really sensitive skin, so sometimes 256 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:18,865 Speaker 3: the stronger products my skin will really react to. 257 00:12:19,025 --> 00:12:20,025 Speaker 1: But we've retino. 258 00:12:20,145 --> 00:12:22,705 Speaker 3: I've had a really good experience, and I just feel 259 00:12:22,705 --> 00:12:25,345 Speaker 3: like if you do it obviously PM only, and if 260 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:28,065 Speaker 3: you keep it up like spreading it out, spreading Yeah, 261 00:12:28,185 --> 00:12:29,105 Speaker 3: I think that's the trick. 262 00:12:29,185 --> 00:12:30,825 Speaker 1: Twice a week. That was another one. 263 00:12:30,865 --> 00:12:33,145 Speaker 3: They said, like do it on Monday and Thursdays. I'll 264 00:12:33,145 --> 00:12:35,745 Speaker 3: put it in your calendar, you know, making you do 265 00:12:35,825 --> 00:12:38,825 Speaker 3: it just been printed in my skincare routine. 266 00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:39,585 Speaker 1: Brain. You know. 267 00:12:39,905 --> 00:12:42,265 Speaker 2: That's good though, and I love I love that skin 268 00:12:42,385 --> 00:12:45,665 Speaker 2: cycling aspect where you you know, set your actives out 269 00:12:45,785 --> 00:12:48,185 Speaker 2: in terms of yeah, you know, whatever day of the week. 270 00:12:48,425 --> 00:12:50,025 Speaker 1: Yeah you like a double cleanser. 271 00:12:50,225 --> 00:12:54,345 Speaker 3: I'm not a good cleanser again, not a good cleanserer. 272 00:12:54,865 --> 00:12:57,625 Speaker 3: Whatever's in the shower is usually what I'm cleansing with. 273 00:12:57,865 --> 00:13:00,265 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm probably pretty bad on the cleansing front. 274 00:13:00,265 --> 00:13:02,225 Speaker 1: I must say, Look, we're not here to judge, but 275 00:13:02,345 --> 00:13:03,945 Speaker 1: everything we're not here to jide. 276 00:13:04,025 --> 00:13:05,865 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm back on TGM. Is this another 277 00:13:05,905 --> 00:13:06,865 Speaker 3: script my judgment? 278 00:13:07,545 --> 00:13:08,545 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 279 00:13:08,585 --> 00:13:11,585 Speaker 3: But a good acial freshen up, you know every now 280 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:13,265 Speaker 3: and then as well is really good. So that's why 281 00:13:13,385 --> 00:13:16,625 Speaker 3: like doing even the monthly skin needling, I feel like 282 00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:19,385 Speaker 3: because she really that really gets in their lifts everything 283 00:13:19,425 --> 00:13:20,665 Speaker 3: off and kind of gives you. 284 00:13:20,625 --> 00:13:22,545 Speaker 1: The fresh face for you. Do you notice really good 285 00:13:22,585 --> 00:13:23,825 Speaker 1: results with that? Yeah? 286 00:13:23,865 --> 00:13:26,665 Speaker 3: And just live like you know how sometimes it's almost 287 00:13:26,705 --> 00:13:29,905 Speaker 3: like you feel dirty, especially if you've got skin's quite dull, yes, 288 00:13:30,065 --> 00:13:32,785 Speaker 3: and especially if you're pigment prone like myself. That skin 289 00:13:32,865 --> 00:13:34,785 Speaker 3: needling is just like that lift that you need. 290 00:13:35,025 --> 00:13:35,545 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 291 00:13:35,745 --> 00:13:38,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me a little bit about You're obviously a 292 00:13:38,745 --> 00:13:39,705 Speaker 2: busy mum of three. 293 00:13:40,225 --> 00:13:44,425 Speaker 1: You've got two businesses, maybe more? Are you hiding more? 294 00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:48,665 Speaker 2: You're on the podcast, You've got a lot happening. Give 295 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,785 Speaker 2: us a little bit of an insight into what you 296 00:13:50,825 --> 00:13:53,905 Speaker 2: do when you're short of time for like a five 297 00:13:54,025 --> 00:13:54,865 Speaker 2: minute glow up. 298 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:57,945 Speaker 3: Look, I'm a very basic like if I'm just doing 299 00:13:58,105 --> 00:14:01,865 Speaker 3: you know, general home work, or my usual job where. 300 00:14:01,665 --> 00:14:03,145 Speaker 1: I don't have to see too many people. 301 00:14:03,465 --> 00:14:07,825 Speaker 3: I'm very basic, but of course I just do basic skincare. 302 00:14:07,905 --> 00:14:10,305 Speaker 3: Look I like a Bebe cream, like something that's a 303 00:14:10,305 --> 00:14:13,105 Speaker 3: little bit lighter, not too heavy in terms of a foundation, 304 00:14:13,785 --> 00:14:16,265 Speaker 3: And lately I'm just loving a bit of blush, like 305 00:14:16,425 --> 00:14:17,465 Speaker 3: just to pop. 306 00:14:17,665 --> 00:14:19,665 Speaker 2: I put some blush on before I came in here, 307 00:14:19,825 --> 00:14:21,305 Speaker 2: because it just makes you feel bad and. 308 00:14:21,545 --> 00:14:24,345 Speaker 1: Makes you Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, yes, that's right. 309 00:14:24,465 --> 00:14:26,825 Speaker 3: You know, you just gotta put a bit of Bebe cream, 310 00:14:26,905 --> 00:14:28,305 Speaker 3: a bit of you know, you can even use your 311 00:14:28,305 --> 00:14:31,505 Speaker 3: lips blush, you know, just to bring you to life of. 312 00:14:31,425 --> 00:14:40,265 Speaker 1: Life, hit you've been one of the greatest discoveries of 313 00:14:40,305 --> 00:14:43,225 Speaker 1: all time, or miss never again? 314 00:14:43,545 --> 00:14:47,185 Speaker 2: Never are there any kind of It can be like 315 00:14:47,225 --> 00:14:51,505 Speaker 2: a surprising ingredient or technique or trend that you've noticed 316 00:14:51,505 --> 00:14:53,825 Speaker 2: that you love, and then one that you hate. 317 00:14:54,025 --> 00:14:56,465 Speaker 1: Can I have a few, you can have as many. 318 00:14:56,945 --> 00:14:59,945 Speaker 3: Because I feel like I'm on this journey of discovery. 319 00:15:00,665 --> 00:15:04,585 Speaker 3: So I usually used to hate a body oil, like 320 00:15:04,665 --> 00:15:07,305 Speaker 3: my skin feels suffocatey, it's a bit too thick for 321 00:15:07,345 --> 00:15:10,745 Speaker 3: my skin. But what I've been using now from my 322 00:15:10,825 --> 00:15:13,065 Speaker 3: own recommendation because My girlfriend was like, I need some 323 00:15:13,065 --> 00:15:15,185 Speaker 3: more of your Brillow oil, and I was like, yeah, 324 00:15:15,225 --> 00:15:17,985 Speaker 3: but I'm not a body oil person, but I told. 325 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:20,065 Speaker 1: Her should try it. 326 00:15:20,105 --> 00:15:21,905 Speaker 3: But I said to her, you should really use it 327 00:15:21,945 --> 00:15:25,665 Speaker 3: in the shower because so she was like, oh my gosh, 328 00:15:25,665 --> 00:15:27,705 Speaker 3: I've been doing that. So then I took some words 329 00:15:27,705 --> 00:15:30,625 Speaker 3: of my own advice and I'm like, maybe if I 330 00:15:30,745 --> 00:15:33,945 Speaker 3: use it in the shower, so I've conformed. I am 331 00:15:33,985 --> 00:15:37,385 Speaker 3: now a body oil girl, but in the shower, so 332 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:39,905 Speaker 3: rather than after the shower, so it's thick and still 333 00:15:39,905 --> 00:15:42,785 Speaker 3: on your body. Doing it in the shower that is 334 00:15:42,865 --> 00:15:43,505 Speaker 3: my new hit. 335 00:15:43,745 --> 00:15:47,065 Speaker 1: So while the shower still running. Yeah, Like I'm not. 336 00:15:47,105 --> 00:15:48,905 Speaker 3: Like, you know, you've got your locks of tone the 337 00:15:49,025 --> 00:15:52,705 Speaker 3: shower oil, which is amazing, but yeah, even just the 338 00:15:52,745 --> 00:15:54,625 Speaker 3: body oil, but in the shower so it hasn't got 339 00:15:54,625 --> 00:15:56,265 Speaker 3: that thick residue after Do you know. 340 00:15:56,185 --> 00:15:58,225 Speaker 1: What, I can't remember if it was Lee or Kelly. 341 00:15:58,585 --> 00:16:01,425 Speaker 2: They were talking about this hack where you know, when 342 00:16:01,465 --> 00:16:03,425 Speaker 2: you get out of the shower, you don't dry. 343 00:16:03,265 --> 00:16:06,385 Speaker 1: Off, you just put the oil while you're still damn. Yeah. 344 00:16:07,945 --> 00:16:12,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the moisture in I feel, yeah, rather than 345 00:16:12,265 --> 00:16:14,705 Speaker 3: making you feel dry outside of time. 346 00:16:14,785 --> 00:16:15,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fan of the oil. 347 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:19,025 Speaker 3: Okay, good, you're a body oil person. Okay, great, thank 348 00:16:19,105 --> 00:16:23,305 Speaker 3: you belly. My other thing is magnesium spray. Looks since 349 00:16:23,305 --> 00:16:25,745 Speaker 3: we're doing the like a bit of a pregnancy based 350 00:16:25,945 --> 00:16:30,385 Speaker 3: episode here, Definitely magnesium spray or magnesium of any sort, 351 00:16:30,505 --> 00:16:31,105 Speaker 3: whether it's. 352 00:16:30,945 --> 00:16:32,025 Speaker 1: An oil a spray. 353 00:16:32,225 --> 00:16:36,345 Speaker 3: I think especially during pregnancy, it is like you're again, 354 00:16:36,465 --> 00:16:40,825 Speaker 3: there's not a lot you can take or use for pain, cramps, 355 00:16:40,945 --> 00:16:44,625 Speaker 3: you know, anyway that you're uncomfortable. So magnesium is like 356 00:16:45,345 --> 00:16:48,705 Speaker 3: such a God send. Yeah, whether it's your restless legs, 357 00:16:48,825 --> 00:16:51,745 Speaker 3: whether it's hips or shoulder pain. 358 00:16:51,745 --> 00:16:54,265 Speaker 1: Could you just apply it like directly. 359 00:16:54,065 --> 00:16:57,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can get like some people might take 360 00:16:58,025 --> 00:17:00,345 Speaker 3: oral magnesium, but yeah, you can get the cream you 361 00:17:00,385 --> 00:17:03,705 Speaker 3: can get. We do an oil spray generally if you're 362 00:17:03,705 --> 00:17:07,505 Speaker 3: not quite sure where your pain is, bottom of your feet, everywhere, 363 00:17:07,545 --> 00:17:10,465 Speaker 3: it's everywhere. Souls of your feet is the way to go. 364 00:17:10,545 --> 00:17:13,705 Speaker 3: That will also help with sleep as well. But certainly 365 00:17:13,745 --> 00:17:15,705 Speaker 3: if you've got somewhere that you can apply topically on 366 00:17:15,705 --> 00:17:18,545 Speaker 3: your body, yeah, just pop it like we just with Brillow. 367 00:17:18,665 --> 00:17:20,385 Speaker 3: You just do a couple of sprays on the area 368 00:17:20,585 --> 00:17:23,585 Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's amazing. Like I almost was 369 00:17:23,625 --> 00:17:25,945 Speaker 3: like that sounds a bit woo woo. But then sometimes 370 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,585 Speaker 3: i've used it. My husband is obsessed with it, laughter, training, 371 00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:30,345 Speaker 3: saw muscles, cramps, things like that. 372 00:17:30,425 --> 00:17:32,905 Speaker 2: So I need to get into that because I have one. 373 00:17:32,985 --> 00:17:35,145 Speaker 2: I just need to actually, yes, you. 374 00:17:35,185 --> 00:17:36,385 Speaker 1: Just need to yeah, use it. 375 00:17:36,465 --> 00:17:38,945 Speaker 3: And again it's like the massage, Like until you use it, 376 00:17:38,945 --> 00:17:40,545 Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, I didn't realize how much 377 00:17:40,585 --> 00:17:41,105 Speaker 3: I needed that. 378 00:17:41,305 --> 00:17:43,545 Speaker 2: I gotta stop doing that thing where I save everything. 379 00:17:43,705 --> 00:17:47,025 Speaker 2: You're just saving stuff like the very and I'm better not. 380 00:17:47,025 --> 00:17:49,865 Speaker 1: Wait for it. It's like you better use it to start. 381 00:17:50,545 --> 00:17:52,265 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll have a four month old and be like, oh, 382 00:17:52,265 --> 00:17:54,465 Speaker 3: I should have used that while I was so uncomfortable. 383 00:17:54,865 --> 00:17:57,905 Speaker 2: Tell me about your missus. Some things that you like, 384 00:17:58,025 --> 00:17:59,185 Speaker 2: hate or can't stand. 385 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:03,785 Speaker 3: My misses are definitely vitamin C. So vitamin C is 386 00:18:03,825 --> 00:18:08,385 Speaker 3: so big right now and so good, so recommended, but no, 387 00:18:08,585 --> 00:18:11,865 Speaker 3: not for me. I am like breakout central. 388 00:18:12,025 --> 00:18:15,385 Speaker 2: Okay, Can I just say I feel horrible because obviously, 389 00:18:15,425 --> 00:18:17,545 Speaker 2: as you said, there's so many different vitamin c's on 390 00:18:17,585 --> 00:18:20,945 Speaker 2: the market. You scroll through social media, you see so 391 00:18:21,025 --> 00:18:24,945 Speaker 2: many people with great results. I have found a few 392 00:18:24,985 --> 00:18:27,025 Speaker 2: vitamin c's that work really well for me. 393 00:18:27,385 --> 00:18:27,625 Speaker 1: Great. 394 00:18:27,745 --> 00:18:31,145 Speaker 2: I recommended a couple to one of my colleagues who 395 00:18:31,305 --> 00:18:33,425 Speaker 2: work in the editorial team with me at Mama Maya. 396 00:18:34,185 --> 00:18:35,025 Speaker 1: She came in. 397 00:18:35,025 --> 00:18:39,145 Speaker 2: Last week her face she had broken out on her forehead. 398 00:18:39,625 --> 00:18:41,665 Speaker 2: She was like, what am I doing wrong? I switched 399 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:44,425 Speaker 2: vitamin c's and I was kind of like, I'm the one. 400 00:18:44,265 --> 00:18:46,665 Speaker 1: That I gave you. 401 00:18:46,665 --> 00:18:48,585 Speaker 3: You're going to tell me that she was really sensitive 402 00:18:48,625 --> 00:18:51,585 Speaker 3: and she didn't break out, But no, okay, I know. 403 00:18:52,105 --> 00:18:54,265 Speaker 2: It just goes to show, though, what works for one 404 00:18:54,305 --> 00:18:55,505 Speaker 2: person doesn't work for. 405 00:18:55,625 --> 00:18:58,025 Speaker 1: Total everyone, and you've really got to pick and. 406 00:18:58,025 --> 00:19:00,785 Speaker 3: Choose absolutely, And it just sucks because vitamin C is 407 00:19:00,785 --> 00:19:03,385 Speaker 3: obviously so good for pigment, So for someone like me, 408 00:19:03,545 --> 00:19:05,625 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, what can you use for pigment? 409 00:19:05,665 --> 00:19:07,025 Speaker 1: It's like Vitamin C vitamin C. 410 00:19:07,185 --> 00:19:09,145 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, But as you said, there's tons 411 00:19:09,145 --> 00:19:11,905 Speaker 2: of different ingredients out there that you can use instead 412 00:19:11,945 --> 00:19:14,105 Speaker 2: of vitamin C. Doesn't have to be vitamin C. So 413 00:19:14,305 --> 00:19:16,865 Speaker 2: you know, you've got like isaelaic acid, and you mentioned 414 00:19:16,905 --> 00:19:19,385 Speaker 2: you use nice cinamide as well, So all just comes 415 00:19:19,425 --> 00:19:19,865 Speaker 2: down to. 416 00:19:20,145 --> 00:19:22,465 Speaker 1: What works for your individual skin type. 417 00:19:22,545 --> 00:19:25,065 Speaker 2: I love that I think that's a second or third 418 00:19:25,145 --> 00:19:27,825 Speaker 2: cancelation on vitamin C vitamins naught. 419 00:19:28,385 --> 00:19:29,265 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. 420 00:19:30,905 --> 00:19:33,025 Speaker 2: Well, listen, Diggan, thank you so much for coming on 421 00:19:33,065 --> 00:19:34,905 Speaker 2: the Showy, Thank you so much. 422 00:19:34,785 --> 00:19:36,825 Speaker 1: For having me. It's so great. Need to book you 423 00:19:36,865 --> 00:19:40,905 Speaker 1: in for a massage. 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