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Speaker 1: Lee Campbell and every week I chat to an expert
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Speaker 1: New Year. Maybe you got some clothes or some gift
Speaker 1: bounchers for Christmas and you might be thinking about your
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five fashion purchases, or maybe you're gearing up
Speaker 1: for a holiday, or perhaps this break has you dreaming
Speaker 1: of your next getaway. A few months ago, I went
Speaker 1: on a four week trip and made all the packing mistakes. Today,
Speaker 1: I'm sharing my mus to have suitcase organization tips, what
Speaker 1: to pack, and how to stay stylish and practical no
Speaker 1: matter where you're headed. To dive into all things fashion
Speaker 1: and travel. I've brought back my fabulous friend who also
Speaker 1: went away a few months ago. She's the co founder
Speaker 1: of Mama Maya Miya Friedman. Mia. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: So good to be here and also happy New Year.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited because my mind is moving towards the
Speaker 2: holidays that I'm planning.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know a few months ago you and I
Speaker 1: both went away, correct.
Speaker 2: And it's like you look at a year and you
Speaker 2: think sometimes that's what helps you get through the year,
Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, well, I'm going to do this,
Speaker 2: and when I want to try and do this year
Speaker 2: as I want to try and do some time in Copenhagen,
Speaker 2: which I've always imagined and hoped to go and visit.
Speaker 2: We did that episode about my obsession with Copenhagen fashion.
Speaker 2: I get a lot of joy in planning my outfits
Speaker 2: and planning my pack.
Speaker 1: You're packing, what is your general packing strategy?
Speaker 2: Panic? No, So what I do. A game changer for
Speaker 2: me is to have a rack. I've got a little
Speaker 2: disposable rack that caused me like, I don't know, dollars
Speaker 2: or something that I haul out and I don't do
Speaker 2: this at the last minute. Usually in the weeks leading
Speaker 2: up to Every time I think about something that I
Speaker 2: want to wear or that would be good, I'll pop
Speaker 2: it on that rack so that it means that when
Speaker 2: I start, I've got that as an option.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I've learned, I know that people
Speaker 2: have those formulas like three tops, two pants. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I find that doesn't work in my brain. I can't
Speaker 2: do travel maths. So what I've seen a better way
Speaker 2: to do it is to plan actual outfits and then
Speaker 2: have a broad color palette.
Speaker 1: So it's not a capsule but not capsule, which was
Speaker 1: my next question.
Speaker 2: And then the mistake I don't make anymore is packing
Speaker 2: for a person who I'm not so holiday maya actually
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. If I don't wear it here, I won't
Speaker 2: wear it there exactly, no matter where there is.
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, a couple of months ago I did a
Speaker 1: big trip and part of it, well two parts of
Speaker 1: it were quite cold and the middle part was hot.
Speaker 1: That was stressful, But I was packing for a family.
Speaker 1: My husband, well, he's saw a pat for himself and
Speaker 1: a child. I have so many hacks, I have so
Speaker 1: many tips, so many what not to do.
Speaker 3: That's a high degree of difficulty.
Speaker 2: I hope you're not going to tell me that you
Speaker 2: all want with hand luggage, because then I have to
Speaker 2: leave the studio.
Speaker 1: I had to purchase an extra suitcase to come home.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So firstly, depending on your accommodation and what was good.
Speaker 1: We had a mix of everything. So first stop, we
Speaker 1: stayed with friends in their house, second stop hotel, third
Speaker 1: stop apartment rented apartments. Yeah, I had every version. So
Speaker 1: I pack a little tupperware container with some washing powder,
Speaker 1: some pegs on top clothes, and that's for your hand
Speaker 1: washing if you desperately need to hand wash.
Speaker 2: That's so clever because I stay in hotels, but I
Speaker 2: will always just refuse.
Speaker 3: It's so excited. Like twelve dollars for a G string,
Speaker 3: you could buy another G string.
Speaker 1: No, you hand wash and then you've got your little
Speaker 1: pegs and you just kind of peg wherever you can.
Speaker 1: That's a game changer. I know you like packing cubes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do compression packing cube. Yes, so I have several
Speaker 1: to explain to you. So compression packing cubes are great
Speaker 1: in that you know how your suitcase has the zip
Speaker 1: and then the extra zip. It's that right, So I
Speaker 1: use those for big things, and then I have smaller
Speaker 1: various things like what say, like a pile of jumpers
Speaker 1: or T shirts or whatever it may be. And then
Speaker 1: I use smaller ones that are a very thin mesh
Speaker 1: and you can see through them. And that's for smaller
Speaker 1: things like bras under these swimmers. Yea, the compression ones
Speaker 1: are great, but they're actually a little bit thicker and
Speaker 1: that all adds up interesting. Yes, I have several types. Okay,
Speaker 1: if anyone is going somewhere really cold, there's this kit
Speaker 1: on Amazon that will change the game. It is packing
Speaker 1: cubes but with a little electric vacuum and they vacuum.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you've got puffy jackets or ski suits
Speaker 2: and you take that, or just jumpers in a coat anything, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's it. And so they're fantastic. It comes in
Speaker 1: a huge kit. I think it's about fifty bucks. So
Speaker 1: depending on if you're going hot or cold, there's different
Speaker 1: cubes for your life.
Speaker 2: I love cubes because then you can also just leave
Speaker 2: them in there. Yeah, because I'm not an unpacker.
Speaker 1: Well yes, but then I found myself rummaging, I guess
Speaker 1: because I was trying to dress my son as well.
Speaker 1: So the ones that you can't really see through that
Speaker 1: the compression ones. I ended up putting a post it
Speaker 1: with like Alexander tops Lee jeans clever. That's important. And
Speaker 1: then Kmart have these fantastic packing cubes essentially for shoes.
Speaker 1: So it's a big zippy thing. You zip it open
Speaker 1: and it fits six pairs of shoes, slides in. It's
Speaker 1: soft like a packing cube fabric, and then you zip
Speaker 1: it shut. So no dirty shoes in your suitcase because
Speaker 1: I used to wrap them with plastic bags. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they're fantastic. So I took a couple of those. I
Speaker 1: think they're about six bucks each. Most hotels have shocking,
Speaker 1: shocking lighting, So I've got a little Amazon mirror that
Speaker 1: folds and it's led in lights up so you can
Speaker 1: sit it on your bedside or at the desk or
Speaker 1: by the window. I cannot live without that. That was
Speaker 1: really helpful. I've always talked about a travel steamer. Camart
Speaker 1: recently or a couple of months ago came out with
Speaker 1: an even smaller one. I think it's about twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars and it is brilliant. That's brilliance if you're staying
Speaker 1: in a nice hotel, you can ask for a steamer
Speaker 1: correct or an iron, said, I don't an iron. But
Speaker 1: if you're staying in an airbnb, yeah, we're at friends places. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh you're always running late. Who's got time to call? Wait?
Speaker 1: Give it back. But my other trick is if you're
Speaker 1: having a shower, are you wearing just satin or silk
Speaker 1: or light weight cotton? Just hang it on a hanger
Speaker 1: in the bathroom share for me.
Speaker 3: Oh it does.
Speaker 1: You've just got to pull on it a bit.
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I find the hair dryer will work in an emergency.
Speaker 1: That's a good idea.
Speaker 3: Clothes on and just blast yourself with.
Speaker 1: The hair dryer, that's a great idea. Or not on,
Speaker 1: or hang it over the door, hang it over the
Speaker 1: back of the door. Because my husband tried to steam
Speaker 1: his shirt with the steamer with it on.
Speaker 3: That's a trap.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's got a lot of scars. I have these
Speaker 1: little fantastic things. They're called coat hanger extenders, because no
Speaker 1: matter where you stay, you get like four or five
Speaker 1: coat hangers someone. They look a little like a little
Speaker 1: figure eight and then you just hook it over that
Speaker 1: and then you hook the next run. And when I
Speaker 1: do whole outfits with these little extenders.
Speaker 2: So do you have any garment bags that you like?
Speaker 2: Do you travel with any? I suppose it depends, like
Speaker 2: going to Melbourne for two days for work is different
Speaker 2: to going.
Speaker 1: No, But do you mean garment bag like a big
Speaker 1: long dress Exactly.
Speaker 2: Sometimes if I've got somewhere and I need a particular outfit,
Speaker 2: I'll hang it inside so that I can straight away
Speaker 2: just hang.
Speaker 1: It on the whole outfit. I've never thought of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it takes a lot of room, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: These little things are tiny, and they come a pack
Speaker 1: of like fifty and I use them at home too
Speaker 1: to plan my outfits. They're really handy. And my husband
Speaker 1: was like, they're the hangars, and I was like, here go,
Speaker 1: I've just turned one into four. If you're traveling with family,
Speaker 1: my biggest tip is and touch what. I've never had
Speaker 1: a missing suitcase yet, but put a few essentials for
Speaker 1: everyone in each suitcase, like Undy's. I mean, not a toothbrush,
Speaker 1: you can buy them, but Undy's in one set of clothes,
Speaker 1: just in case one goes missing. Air tags, of course.
Speaker 1: I also put an air tag in my passport wallet.
Speaker 2: Yes, my daughter did that. When she traveled over so
Speaker 2: that's very useful.
Speaker 1: Yes. And then there's this little watch you can buy
Speaker 1: with an air tag on the back of you're traveling
Speaker 1: with your child, so I put the air tag on
Speaker 1: the back of him and he wears his little watch
Speaker 1: just because he's a runner.
Speaker 3: Clever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your valuable things, your child got a runner exactly,
Speaker 1: so they're handy.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I got so many questions about safety and handbags and
Speaker 1: walking around. So my main tip is if you're going
Speaker 1: to a busy city and you know, not the tourists
Speaker 1: particularly obvious, but you know oftentimes you're looking at maps
Speaker 1: and people like there's a tourist. So I would do
Speaker 1: a crossbody bag at the front, or quite a cool
Speaker 1: bum bag verstsy do this awesome crossbody that then changes
Speaker 1: into a bum bag, but it's still their thatched leather
Speaker 1: like it's awesome.
Speaker 2: See with bumbags, I never wear them around my waist.
Speaker 2: I always wear them across body so that the bum
Speaker 2: part is there across your chest.
Speaker 1: I wear it to the side. And then if it's
Speaker 1: if you're going somewhere cold, I suggest putting your crossbody
Speaker 1: or your bum bag on venue coat. I mean you've
Speaker 1: got to have your wits about you, but you just
Speaker 1: don't want something to go missing. And in there is
Speaker 1: obviously my wallet and my phone or whatever. If you
Speaker 1: are shopping in the EU, take your passport if you're
Speaker 1: going to buy something fancy, so you can get the
Speaker 1: VAT bag. Since Brexit, you can't get the VAT back
Speaker 1: in the UK, which sucks because tax ads up, so
Speaker 1: you might have that on you.
Speaker 3: And also leave some time at the airport when you're
Speaker 3: coming back.
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to do that and the line
Speaker 1: was literally like four hours, so I just do it
Speaker 1: as I go okay at the shop. Oh yeah. And
Speaker 1: then my other bag that I just have and my
Speaker 1: husband and I share is just a big canvas toe.
Speaker 1: I've got a long shomp, one of those zip shut
Speaker 1: ones that's twenty years older.
Speaker 3: It's a brand new falls into nothing yep.
Speaker 1: And with that there's water, bottles, snacks, sunscreen, umbrella, whatever
Speaker 1: you need. So if someone happened to steal that, not
Speaker 1: the end of your life. But everything's really safely on you.
Speaker 1: I always pack a few large garbage bags. You need them.
Speaker 1: It might be wet clothes, it might be dirty clothes.
Speaker 1: There's a reason to have a few large garbage bags
Speaker 1: in your suitcase.
Speaker 2: But if you're away for a long time, what do
Speaker 2: you then? Do you just carry around garbage bags of
Speaker 2: wet clothes.
Speaker 3: For two weeks?
Speaker 1: Sorry? What I mean is say you're changing hotels or something. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you get to the next location and then you hang
Speaker 1: them up. Or if it's swimmers, you know oftentimes like
Speaker 1: for example, we didn't fly or six pm, but my
Speaker 1: son w to swim all day quickly change in wet.
Speaker 2: So when you say garbage bag, you don't mean like
Speaker 2: a big, like fifty liter bit I really, yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: Just like a plastic bag. Not that we're meant to
Speaker 3: have them, That's.
Speaker 1: What I's gon to say. Where you're gonna get them from?
Speaker 1: They're impossible. Everything's paper, which is good. And that's another tip.
Speaker 1: It's raining and your shop at ZrH and M forget it.
Speaker 1: Those bags just melt to the pavement. So plastic bags
Speaker 1: are handy. A big reusable garbage bag. I always pack
Speaker 1: a small stain remover pen. This is very organized.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because if you're like you know, going out for
Speaker 1: fancy dinner and you're wearing a nice white shirt or whatever,
Speaker 1: also I have a child, So you can get this
Speaker 1: little kit from Woolies and it's a tiny pan and
Speaker 1: a tiny spray.
Speaker 3: I don't understand how anyone can travel with anything white.
Speaker 1: I wore mostly white, and I got so many questions
Speaker 1: about that. How but what do you mean, like, what's
Speaker 1: the difference between white and black?
Speaker 2: Because every time I wear something white, I have my
Speaker 2: trick where I spray hair spray the collar, which sometimes
Speaker 2: will give me two wears out of a white thing,
Speaker 2: but usually it's one where per white rabbit.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't wear a T shirt twice anyway, would you? Okay?
Speaker 2: When I'm traveling, Hell, yeah, I'm shitzy.
Speaker 1: Really, I wash everything anyway. Okay, yeah, so a little
Speaker 1: stain remover thing is always handy. Check your hair tools
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're compatible if you're going to
Speaker 1: the US, usually UK and Europe, and I think all
Speaker 1: the Asian countries are fine. But I have the little
Speaker 1: GHD travel hair dry. It's tiny, folds in half goes
Speaker 1: like that and it's fabulous, just as good as a
Speaker 1: normal one. That's really good. You can buy take my
Speaker 1: I'm so addicted to my dieson air straight that I
Speaker 1: travel with it. Okay, well, that's incredible. I'm sure it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. And you know, if you're in a hotel,
Speaker 1: they'll probably have a hair dryer. But I'm just I
Speaker 1: like to have mine. Yeah. Ziplock bags are fantastic, four
Speaker 1: beauty on the plane, snacks when you're out and about.
Speaker 1: If there's a buffet and you want to stock up,
Speaker 1: I just always have, you know, sandwich size and big
Speaker 1: size ziplock bags. Now, this is the best hack ever
Speaker 1: I've talked on this show about panty liners a lot
Speaker 1: in the pit of your jacket or a nit if
Speaker 1: you've got a t underneath. That's how you wear those
Speaker 1: several times so you don't get fitzy or smelly or
Speaker 1: deodor anyth.
Speaker 3: So what do you do do you literally stick it
Speaker 3: to your armpit? No, you stick it.
Speaker 1: To the jacket, so the absorbent pad pit is under
Speaker 1: your arm. You don't put a sticky bit to your armpit.
Speaker 3: It got confused, Okay, I thought you stick it to
Speaker 3: your arm pit.
Speaker 1: They're also a great way to feel. But then when
Speaker 1: I was overseas, I thankfully was trying to find a
Speaker 1: bathroom and couldn't wander into this weird old arcade came
Speaker 1: across his vintage shoe store and bought the most beautiful
Speaker 1: vintage shoes from the seventies that had never been worn.
Speaker 1: Twenty yero Happy days. Then we'll go out to dinner
Speaker 1: that night. But they haven't had that resoling thing he done,
Speaker 1: which is also like fifty dollars when they put that
Speaker 1: kind of rubber thing on the bottom of a leather salt.
Speaker 1: So I just got out my panty liners, cut out
Speaker 1: a circle, stuck it on and then there was grip
Speaker 1: and I could wear my shoes.
Speaker 3: So hang on. You stuck the sticky side onto the shoe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, onto the leather, and then I wasn't gonna slip
Speaker 1: on the pavement because it had like panty liner.
Speaker 3: That's very clever.
Speaker 1: Panty liners will change your life. Just have them on
Speaker 1: you all the time and you will see they're like
Speaker 1: the Magiva of travel.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the only permissible use of the word panty loud.
Speaker 3: It's true. It's so creepy.
Speaker 1: And lastly, before we go into actual outfits, I just
Speaker 1: have a lot of little small mesh bags. These are
Speaker 1: from Amazon for like five cents. That's my little makeup
Speaker 1: that's my teeth, floss, hair ties. It just keeps everything.
Speaker 3: Source the keys that you can see into them.
Speaker 1: And mesh takes up no space, so you know, put
Speaker 1: meds in one, make out whatever. These will change your
Speaker 1: life and you can buy them on Amazon in all
Speaker 1: different color and what's good.
Speaker 2: I'm often asked about how I change bags. That's how
Speaker 2: I do it, say a lot, that's how I change bags.
Speaker 2: I've got that much my key. I want to ask
Speaker 2: you about the plane, what to wear and what to pack?
Speaker 2: How do you decide what to wear? Because I always
Speaker 2: imagine that I want to look nice in an airport,
Speaker 2: but then I always just need to be comfortable, agreed?
Speaker 1: Do you have to be comfortable? Honestly? Also on the
Speaker 1: whole holiday, you're not going to wear something uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Also, who cares seeing you in an airport?
Speaker 1: Who cares? Well, Australia's so far away. You pretty much
Speaker 1: get off anywhere feeling very disheveled. Yes, see what I
Speaker 1: feel as best disheveled as you can. So my recommendation,
Speaker 1: after so much trial and error, is a knit pant,
Speaker 1: but they have to have pockets, so you know. Toglow
Speaker 1: have a famous pair that they've just recently added pockets
Speaker 1: to because everyone said, please pockets, so drawstring. They're lightweight enough.
Speaker 3: Right, they won't crease.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they won't crease. And they're like them
Speaker 1: their pants, but they're knitted. Correct. There's another pair that
Speaker 1: are great. They're not knitted, but they're buy Lululemon. But
Speaker 1: they're not for exercise. They're just a really comfy, like
Speaker 1: a lounge wear pant. Yes, and then they've got pockets
Speaker 1: as well, and then they're not tied at the bottom
Speaker 1: because I want to wear a trainer.
Speaker 3: Do you always do them in black?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I don't. Actually I do like a car Qui or
Speaker 1: a gray. I feel like black shows up dirt almost
Speaker 1: as much as white.
Speaker 3: And it's true. And what do you wear with them?
Speaker 1: So then I'll wear a tea and then over the
Speaker 1: top to look relatively smart, I often do a knitted
Speaker 1: cardigan blazer hybrid. So what I wore on my latest
Speaker 1: trip was like a Zara oversized knitted cardigan, but it
Speaker 1: had some structure and I wore it a lot on
Speaker 1: the trip. There's heaps of brands doing them at the moment.
Speaker 1: Cos has a beautiful knit blazer.
Speaker 2: Because you want to be comfortable and be able to sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm always either boiling hot or freezing or.
Speaker 1: I was boiling hot. But then I wore a lot
Speaker 1: on the trip because it wasn't total sloth vibes.
Speaker 2: And it didn't stink because could you wash it or
Speaker 2: you just had your palty liners in the I.
Speaker 1: Actually ended up taking it off. I was hot and
Speaker 1: just wearing my tea. Yeah. Right, And then I've got
Speaker 1: socks and trainers and trainers that I'm gonna wear a
Speaker 1: lot on the trip because I'm not wasting them.
Speaker 3: How do you choose which trainers to take?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: This was hard for me. So I ended up taking
Speaker 1: New Balance and my hon A Suker Tigers. I didn't
Speaker 1: take any of my summers or my added asks because
Speaker 1: they're not comfy enough. And they were great. So I
Speaker 1: wore New Balance on the plane, and the knitted pants
Speaker 1: kind of covered it enough so if it's tight, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like you're going to the gym. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were fantastic. And then in my carry on,
Speaker 1: I will pack a change of tea, a change of
Speaker 1: bra and a change of undies. Yeah, and panty liners.
Speaker 1: If there's a stopover, I'll put different tea different bra,
Speaker 1: some wet wipes, and just kind of give myself a
Speaker 1: bird bath.
Speaker 2: Can I go back to the knit pants. Do you
Speaker 2: wear them just on travel days and on planes or
Speaker 2: do you also wear them through the trip?
Speaker 3: And if so, for what?
Speaker 1: Interestingly? That was good? So we're staying with friends at
Speaker 1: the start, and I forgot I always just love a
Speaker 1: lightweight cotton robe to get ready, and like, I've got
Speaker 1: pjs and stuff that we're going downstairs playing with the kids,
Speaker 1: So I would wear them a lot quote unquote around
Speaker 1: the house or in the rented apartment, around the apartment
Speaker 1: because that's no road. The outfit that I always forget
Speaker 1: to pack, yes, which is the mooching mooching Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: That's kind of fat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you just wash it before and I
Speaker 1: wear the same one back, So that's so handy. Do
Speaker 1: you wash all your clothes on the road, you must have, Well,
Speaker 1: it depends. I mean I didn't hugely overpack. I just
Speaker 1: didn't pack correctly, so I did wash what I needed
Speaker 1: or really wanted to wear.
Speaker 2: Again, tell me a little bit about overpacking because I'm
Speaker 2: going to be general here, but the big difference between
Speaker 2: men and women men in my experience feel that if
Speaker 2: there's anything that they pack that they don't wear, somehow
Speaker 2: they've lost, whereas I never.
Speaker 3: Feel like that. I like to have options agreed.
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's interesting because had my husband
Speaker 1: not said every second day I want to wear this
Speaker 1: is dady, and I wouldn't have done as much washing.
Speaker 1: But he packed like three T shirt. It's on a
Speaker 1: pair of pants. I slightly overpacked, but I also challenged
Speaker 1: my shoes when you travel, Yeah, he doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to one. Well, I've also doing Alexanders, I may sort
Speaker 1: of do it all at once. He could the five
Speaker 1: year old. Now, so back to what you take. No,
Speaker 1: no overpacking. It's interesting because I overpacked, but I challenged
Speaker 1: myself towards the end to just not reach for because
Speaker 1: you get lazy, you don't care, not that I care anyway,
Speaker 1: it takes any more effort. But I'm like, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: just wear that again. But I'm like, no, actually, don't forget.
Speaker 1: You packed that really bod skirt. So sometimes unpacking is
Speaker 1: useful just so you can see it. If it's in
Speaker 1: your case in a cube, you'll forget on the plane.
Speaker 1: I take a little really carry on anything, and then
Speaker 1: just my handbag, because I don't want a big heavy
Speaker 1: bag that I've got a rummag shoes, got heaps of
Speaker 1: shit in it. And in there I've got my change
Speaker 1: of undeaes, my change of Brah, my change of tea,
Speaker 1: probably another pair of socks. To be honest, I pack
Speaker 1: hotel slippers so that i can get up and go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom without place. Yes, okay, so you have
Speaker 1: to feel from your next hotel, or you can buy
Speaker 1: them from a two dollars shop. And then obviously a
Speaker 1: little ClearCase with all my beauty stuff in it. If
Speaker 1: I'm taking anything valuable like my jewelry, even if it's
Speaker 1: costume jewelry and or one of my favorite handbags, I
Speaker 1: will put it all in there and.
Speaker 3: Keep that on me. Anything that you couldn't better lose.
Speaker 1: Correct, because you don't want to go through travel insurance. Yes,
Speaker 1: I masks, earplugs, those waxy ones that you can shove
Speaker 1: right in. Because I've got my big long shop in
Speaker 1: my suitcase for later, worst case scenario I do too
Speaker 1: much shopping. I've got that little suitcase and I can
Speaker 1: use the long shomp on the way home. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's pretty much each. I mean that's a lot. Maybe
Speaker 1: a book, No, I don't actually take a book. Lollies, snacks,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 3: So travel with a kindle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What about devices and charges?
Speaker 1: Yes, make sure they've still got the USB. That's what
Speaker 1: plugs into the thingy and then whatever device works. I
Speaker 1: take that, I take a battery pack. Charges are a
Speaker 1: punish honestly, but now you can get different charges power
Speaker 1: banks that go into the wall in your hotel or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then you've just got to plug the thingies. But
Speaker 1: it's annoying that some USB some USC.
Speaker 3: I buy from Amazon, the ones that have both in
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: Yes, two of each or whatever. I agreed, agreed, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I do on the plane.
Speaker 3: Packing regrets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my trip really snuck up on me. Even though
Speaker 1: I was so excited, I didn't try my footwear on
Speaker 1: with enough combinations or consider how much we'd be walking around.
Speaker 1: So I got some really comfy off white ballet flat
Speaker 1: that looked great and I was so comforted to walk in.
Speaker 1: But after thirty thousand steps that day, I could not
Speaker 1: move through a killer. Well, they didn't hurt my feet
Speaker 1: my back, because that's.
Speaker 3: What I mean. Yeah, I've got no padding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. So they didn't hurt my feet at all.
Speaker 1: That's a great I mean, oh, I honestly was never
Speaker 1: the same. And I think also just be mindful of
Speaker 1: where you're going if you're doing several locations. I was
Speaker 1: most excited for the warmth because we were coming out
Speaker 1: of winter in Sydney at the time, So I packed
Speaker 1: way too much for that part and not enough for
Speaker 1: the cold bits and that's where you need stuff. So
Speaker 1: just be really realistic. We always talk on this podcast
Speaker 1: about your ten percent and your ninety percent. Probably pack
Speaker 1: your ten percent. That ball gown at the back of
Speaker 1: the your wardrobe, you're not going to wear it.
Speaker 3: Do you wear your bulkyost things on the plane? Definitely
Speaker 3: on the way home like you coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I wore the cardigan, but yes if
Speaker 1: I'm overweight. And that's another really handy little tip. You
Speaker 1: can buy on Amazon or even k might do them.
Speaker 1: It's a little handheld wayer. Yeah, and it'll weigh your case.
Speaker 1: And if you do do a lot of shopping or
Speaker 1: you know, take something home for a friend or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, soven is make sure you book
Speaker 1: extra luggage on the website before getting to the airport,
Speaker 1: because it's so expensive at the airport. But if you
Speaker 1: buy extra luggage on their website before because they know
Speaker 1: you're desperate, once you get to the airport, what can
Speaker 1: you do? But it's actually not that bad. But if
Speaker 1: you've got little handheld scales, then you kind of know
Speaker 1: what you're working with now quickly shopping tips when you're away,
Speaker 1: because you know what I like to do.
Speaker 3: Shop, Yes, relaxation.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, take your passport with you, guard
Speaker 1: it with your life. If you're going to buy something
Speaker 1: relatively expensive to get the tax back, the Aussie dollar
Speaker 1: sucks in the UK and the US and the EU
Speaker 1: right now, So go with that in mind, do some research.
Speaker 1: I took a lot of photos in like Zara, Nature
Speaker 1: and m of the tag and then found it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I only bought things that were really really special
Speaker 1: that I couldn't get at home, that were really unique
Speaker 1: or brands or whatever.
Speaker 3: Because even the so called cheap things and not.
Speaker 1: Cheap like you tango, it was almost double. So that's
Speaker 1: why I also did a lot of thrifting, because it's
Speaker 1: souvenirs from your trip and that's kind of one of
Speaker 1: a kind. And on that. If you do fall in
Speaker 1: love with something, just buy it. You're not going to
Speaker 1: go back to that shop, You're not going to walk
Speaker 1: all the way down there. Just buy it. And also
Speaker 1: don't forget we're in opposite season, so if you are
Speaker 1: going to the Northern Hemisphere, it's a great time to
Speaker 1: look for sales. If you're deep in a season, they
Speaker 1: won't have a sale rack. But if you were staying
Speaker 1: at a hotel or with friends or in an apartment
Speaker 1: for a period of time, go online. For example, Mango
Speaker 1: Outlet online. It doesn't ship to Australia, but they ship
Speaker 1: UK in EU. So I didn't order, and I went
Speaker 1: to my friend's house for real estate and everything was
Speaker 1: like three dollars. It's very expensive.
Speaker 3: How wondred percent? So bougie and budget I need advice?
Speaker 1: Okay, what did you what's spend on?
Speaker 3: What's budgety?
Speaker 1: When we landed in London, I went straight to Selfridges,
Speaker 1: Selfages and Code is a huge department store, a bit
Speaker 1: like here David Jones, and they sell Victoria Beckham beauty.
Speaker 1: So I got the relatively new concealer and I got
Speaker 1: the Bronzer because the shipping here is outrageous and I
Speaker 1: just wanted them, so they were my bougies. I didn't
Speaker 1: really buy anything really expensive fashion wise because it just
Speaker 1: wasn't worth it. But my budget, you're not gonna like.
Speaker 1: So Primark is like a Kmart but on steroids in London.
Speaker 3: But now I hear so much about Crimark. I never
Speaker 3: understood what it was.
Speaker 1: It is very hit and miss, but the hits are
Speaker 1: so good and it's massive, it's home, it's everything. And
Speaker 1: then there was one in Spain and there's one in Paris.
Speaker 1: Now they might be big everywhere, but I used to
Speaker 1: go in the UK. So I bought some Barrel Legg jeans.
Speaker 1: Sorry maa A two brute. I love them. They were
Speaker 1: sixteen your own. They do collubs with a lot of celebs,
Speaker 1: so the Reader Aura Club is amazing and I bought
Speaker 1: Barrel Leg trousers. There were twenty. I know their stuff.
Speaker 1: You've really got a rummage, but it's really amazing. So
Speaker 1: go really cheap, or go thrift or research if you
Speaker 1: want to buy yourself a real special treat. But yeah,
Speaker 1: be realistic about how much shopping you do when you pack,
Speaker 1: but maybe pack like you're not going to do shopping
Speaker 1: because it's expensive.
Speaker 2: I like that tip about looking at labels that aren't
Speaker 2: sold here. Necessarily, you might also have access to a
Speaker 2: bigger range and then you don't have to play shipping.
Speaker 1: Well that is one thing. So in Zara over there,
Speaker 1: you can see on their tag it says US and
Speaker 1: UK market only or witch market. So some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I was like, oh, I really like that, and
Speaker 1: then I saw that on the label. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: now I really want it because it's not coming to Australia.
Speaker 2: Well, often Australian Zara is it just the stuff that
Speaker 2: doesn't get sold anywhere?
Speaker 1: It just gets such we get a lot less and
Speaker 1: so do some research. You can even use chat GPT
Speaker 1: now to ask it to make you an itininary or
Speaker 1: tell you the shops where you are. A yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: So I go and live in Copenhagen for a month.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll move to Paris and we can visit each other.
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me share my tips. One last
Speaker 1: thing though, I've got a lot of Instagram dms going.
Speaker 1: How can you be bothered? And I'm like, it's not
Speaker 1: extra effort. Most of the time. I had the phone
Speaker 1: over my face and I don't wear make up. I
Speaker 1: really did my hair, and you know, I've put the
Speaker 1: outfit together in my head.
Speaker 3: So what do they mean? How can you be bothered
Speaker 3: to do what to put.
Speaker 1: Together a relatively nice outfit? I guess, but for me
Speaker 1: it was mostly sip skirts, teas, a trench and trainers.
Speaker 2: That was the other thing that I always remember is
Speaker 2: that so often when we're getting dressed at home, we're
Speaker 2: seeing the same people, so we've got to have different outfits.
Speaker 2: But when you're away, you're really seeing the same people
Speaker 2: two days in a row, so you can wear the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 1: I wore the same cream slipskirt with five different tops
Speaker 1: cream Ania. Yeah. No, I'm just brave. Thank you for
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