1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:23,874 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,714 --> 00:00:21,473 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 3 00:00:21,474 --> 00:00:24,274 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Cassania lu Kitch 4 00:00:24,314 --> 00:00:26,753 Speaker 2: and coming up on the show today, Miley Cyrus is 5 00:00:26,754 --> 00:00:28,674 Speaker 2: engaged and we're going to get into a little bit 6 00:00:28,674 --> 00:00:31,834 Speaker 2: about her partner and engagement story and kind of the 7 00:00:31,914 --> 00:00:33,913 Speaker 2: rise of the low key boyfriend that she is very 8 00:00:33,994 --> 00:00:38,074 Speaker 2: much championing and I'm all about. Plus, filmmaker Quentin Tarantino 9 00:00:38,274 --> 00:00:41,593 Speaker 2: has given an interview that has gone crazy viral. It's 10 00:00:41,674 --> 00:00:44,713 Speaker 2: upset half of Hollywood people are taking sides. We're going 11 00:00:44,754 --> 00:00:45,313 Speaker 2: to get into that. 12 00:00:45,473 --> 00:00:50,713 Speaker 1: But first, America's Royal wedding finally has a date, we think, so. 13 00:00:50,873 --> 00:00:53,794 Speaker 1: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift are getting married, as we 14 00:00:53,874 --> 00:00:57,393 Speaker 1: all well know, and there are some really exciting new 15 00:00:57,474 --> 00:01:00,474 Speaker 1: updates that we have about the wedding. Now it looks 16 00:01:00,514 --> 00:01:02,114 Speaker 1: like the wedding is going to be happening in just 17 00:01:02,234 --> 00:01:06,474 Speaker 1: six months time, on June the thirteenth, twenty twenty six. 18 00:01:07,154 --> 00:01:09,914 Speaker 1: Out For those Taylor fans, we know that thirteen is 19 00:01:09,954 --> 00:01:12,634 Speaker 1: one of her favorite numbers. Her birthdays on the thirteenth 20 00:01:12,674 --> 00:01:16,114 Speaker 1: of December, so this is her half birthday, So this 21 00:01:16,194 --> 00:01:17,434 Speaker 1: is why people think that this is. 22 00:01:17,354 --> 00:01:18,834 Speaker 3: A legit date. 23 00:01:19,314 --> 00:01:21,434 Speaker 1: Now it seems like they're going to be getting married 24 00:01:21,474 --> 00:01:24,394 Speaker 1: at the Ocean House in watch Hill, which is in 25 00:01:24,554 --> 00:01:28,354 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Again, fans of Taytay will know that Taylor's 26 00:01:28,354 --> 00:01:30,674 Speaker 1: got a vocation home a holiday house in Rhode Island 27 00:01:30,714 --> 00:01:33,674 Speaker 1: as well, and this particular venue is right down the 28 00:01:33,754 --> 00:01:34,274 Speaker 1: road from it. 29 00:01:34,794 --> 00:01:36,474 Speaker 3: So that's kind of our biggest one. 30 00:01:36,754 --> 00:01:39,514 Speaker 1: But there are a couple of other details that we 31 00:01:39,634 --> 00:01:43,114 Speaker 1: have in the Taylor Swift wedding planning. 32 00:01:43,994 --> 00:01:46,514 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So this next bit I have been hearing 33 00:01:46,554 --> 00:01:48,514 Speaker 2: for a few months and it was like reported on 34 00:01:48,554 --> 00:01:51,154 Speaker 2: a few podcasts because I think a few podcasters knew 35 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:52,874 Speaker 2: the bride or like a friend of a friend. This 36 00:01:52,914 --> 00:01:54,514 Speaker 2: is how these things get out, And all of a 37 00:01:54,554 --> 00:01:56,514 Speaker 2: sudden it was picked up by all these tabloid sites 38 00:01:56,554 --> 00:01:59,874 Speaker 2: that'ce gone everywhere allegedly about Taylor Sift and Travis Kelsey 39 00:02:00,434 --> 00:02:03,874 Speaker 2: paying for this couple to move their entire wedding and 40 00:02:03,994 --> 00:02:05,714 Speaker 2: kind of just throwing a whole bunch of money at 41 00:02:05,714 --> 00:02:06,634 Speaker 2: the situation. 42 00:02:06,314 --> 00:02:09,233 Speaker 1: These couple of So we're basically stating this woman had 43 00:02:09,274 --> 00:02:13,834 Speaker 1: suggested that her and her husband had booked this venue 44 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:18,514 Speaker 1: for their wedding date, and an anonymous, very wealthy person 45 00:02:18,634 --> 00:02:22,474 Speaker 1: approached them and offered to pay for their wedding in 46 00:02:22,514 --> 00:02:27,314 Speaker 1: minutes in its entirety, their honeymoon, and any change fees, 47 00:02:27,754 --> 00:02:30,034 Speaker 1: basically to have this particular date. 48 00:02:30,394 --> 00:02:33,474 Speaker 3: Now people have seen this and speculated. 49 00:02:32,834 --> 00:02:35,554 Speaker 1: That it's Taylor Swift because of all of the connections 50 00:02:35,594 --> 00:02:39,354 Speaker 1: that she has to this particular area and this particular date. 51 00:02:40,074 --> 00:02:43,674 Speaker 1: But TMZ had called the venue and actually asked if 52 00:02:43,674 --> 00:02:45,754 Speaker 1: this was the case, and they said that no, no, no, 53 00:02:45,794 --> 00:02:47,914 Speaker 1: they would never let someone by the date. 54 00:02:48,234 --> 00:02:49,793 Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I think she definitely did it 55 00:02:49,914 --> 00:02:51,114 Speaker 3: because she can. 56 00:02:51,714 --> 00:02:54,154 Speaker 1: And if you were the bride that had booked that date, 57 00:02:54,274 --> 00:02:55,954 Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent be like, yeah, no problem. 58 00:02:55,994 --> 00:02:57,234 Speaker 3: If you're got to give you that much money to 59 00:02:57,274 --> 00:02:58,913 Speaker 3: change the date, no worry. Yeah. 60 00:02:58,954 --> 00:03:01,154 Speaker 2: And again this was a lukey story because again I 61 00:03:01,194 --> 00:03:03,434 Speaker 2: think like a friend of a friend told someone who 62 00:03:03,474 --> 00:03:05,114 Speaker 2: said it on their podcast, and then all of a 63 00:03:05,114 --> 00:03:07,913 Speaker 2: sudden it got picked up. I think Perezhilt himself spreading 64 00:03:07,954 --> 00:03:10,034 Speaker 2: it around, and then obviously once it like caught on 65 00:03:10,074 --> 00:03:12,874 Speaker 2: like wildfire, now everyone's reporting on it. Yeah, The story 66 00:03:12,914 --> 00:03:14,994 Speaker 2: I heard was that they called and said, Oh, we've 67 00:03:14,994 --> 00:03:17,114 Speaker 2: got this other couple who really wants this venue in 68 00:03:17,114 --> 00:03:20,234 Speaker 2: the state. Would you consider changing if they covered the 69 00:03:20,274 --> 00:03:22,914 Speaker 2: wedding costs? And they're a bit like m because obviously, 70 00:03:22,954 --> 00:03:25,714 Speaker 2: like that's a huge kind of change to your wedding. 71 00:03:25,994 --> 00:03:27,954 Speaker 2: And then apparently they were like, oh, We're not sure. 72 00:03:27,994 --> 00:03:29,754 Speaker 2: And then they said, oh, the couple has offered to 73 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:32,434 Speaker 2: pay not just the wedding costs or the change fees, 74 00:03:32,474 --> 00:03:36,274 Speaker 2: and cover the entire honeymoon. And so they said, Yep, absolutely, 75 00:03:36,514 --> 00:03:39,154 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent would do that. I think you'd 76 00:03:39,154 --> 00:03:41,274 Speaker 2: be mad not to. And it does kind of line 77 00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:43,714 Speaker 2: up like the Rhode Island thing. Obviously, like Taylor has 78 00:03:43,714 --> 00:03:46,394 Speaker 2: that beautiful house there and she always used to host 79 00:03:46,434 --> 00:03:48,914 Speaker 2: those Fourth of July I think it was, yeah, with 80 00:03:48,954 --> 00:03:52,154 Speaker 2: all her celeb friends on the beach there, and she's 81 00:03:52,194 --> 00:03:53,794 Speaker 2: done like a few back when she was like a 82 00:03:53,794 --> 00:03:56,194 Speaker 2: little less private, done some home tours and talked about 83 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:57,914 Speaker 2: like how much that area means to her and how 84 00:03:57,954 --> 00:03:59,794 Speaker 2: special it is. And I know there's a lot of 85 00:03:59,794 --> 00:04:02,194 Speaker 2: speculation that they would have like this big European wedding 86 00:04:02,234 --> 00:04:03,994 Speaker 2: and they would like have like it on like the 87 00:04:04,034 --> 00:04:06,314 Speaker 2: Italian coast or something like that. But it does kind 88 00:04:06,314 --> 00:04:09,274 Speaker 2: of feel like, because they're so like traditionally American kind 89 00:04:09,274 --> 00:04:11,194 Speaker 2: of vibe, that they would have it somewhere that she 90 00:04:11,234 --> 00:04:11,874 Speaker 2: had spent time. 91 00:04:11,994 --> 00:04:12,954 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. 92 00:04:13,114 --> 00:04:16,993 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift really embodies that all American girl, and particularly 93 00:04:17,034 --> 00:04:20,234 Speaker 1: this area in the state's Rhode Island is very like 94 00:04:20,433 --> 00:04:25,234 Speaker 1: traditional American and if you look at the venue itself, 95 00:04:25,553 --> 00:04:28,833 Speaker 1: it really ties in with Taylor's aesthetic. 96 00:04:28,914 --> 00:04:30,353 Speaker 3: It's got it quite cozy. 97 00:04:30,433 --> 00:04:34,753 Speaker 1: It's not particularly modern. It's a very very like classic aesthetic. 98 00:04:35,354 --> 00:04:37,873 Speaker 1: And to be honest, it's not really my my vibe. 99 00:04:37,873 --> 00:04:42,193 Speaker 1: It's not like Byron Bay vibes. It's more like beachside 100 00:04:42,513 --> 00:04:43,393 Speaker 1: bowrel vibes. 101 00:04:43,674 --> 00:04:48,753 Speaker 3: If that makes sense. Yeah, it Hampton z but more traditional, 102 00:04:48,794 --> 00:04:49,314 Speaker 3: I would. 103 00:04:49,073 --> 00:04:51,034 Speaker 2: Say, yeah. And also, I guess like the thing for 104 00:04:51,073 --> 00:04:53,514 Speaker 2: them maybe looking for somewhere with like sentimental meaning, and 105 00:04:53,553 --> 00:04:55,194 Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's somewhere that would be a lot 106 00:04:55,193 --> 00:04:57,674 Speaker 2: of security that they could really shut the place down, 107 00:04:57,993 --> 00:05:00,513 Speaker 2: because we saw, like Selena Gomez's wedding, like she tried 108 00:05:00,594 --> 00:05:02,633 Speaker 2: so hard to keep the details for that a secret 109 00:05:02,873 --> 00:05:04,873 Speaker 2: and they did leak, but it kind of didn't matter 110 00:05:04,873 --> 00:05:06,593 Speaker 2: because they had all the awnings up and all the 111 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:09,794 Speaker 2: walkways covered and everything had to be inside. I think 112 00:05:09,794 --> 00:05:11,953 Speaker 2: if you're a really big celebrity, you either have to 113 00:05:12,073 --> 00:05:14,833 Speaker 2: just be okay with the fact that the paparazzi shots, 114 00:05:14,914 --> 00:05:17,193 Speaker 2: like almost like a Charlie XCX, like paparazzi shots of 115 00:05:17,193 --> 00:05:20,194 Speaker 2: her wedding just went everywhere before she wanted any even 116 00:05:20,234 --> 00:05:22,513 Speaker 2: here in Australia, like Tammy Hemburro's wedding, like they had 117 00:05:22,594 --> 00:05:25,313 Speaker 2: the drone up and those those photos went live and 118 00:05:25,354 --> 00:05:27,953 Speaker 2: like Daily Mail like five minutes after she actually got married. 119 00:05:27,993 --> 00:05:29,473 Speaker 2: So don't know if there's a way to keep it secret. 120 00:05:29,513 --> 00:05:30,914 Speaker 2: If you have an outdoor wedding, there's no way to 121 00:05:30,993 --> 00:05:31,634 Speaker 2: keep it secret. 122 00:05:31,674 --> 00:05:34,074 Speaker 1: I think it would be really distracting if you're at 123 00:05:34,073 --> 00:05:36,714 Speaker 1: a wedding venue and all you could hear was choppers 124 00:05:36,914 --> 00:05:39,514 Speaker 1: over head. I think that's the main thing that would 125 00:05:39,513 --> 00:05:41,313 Speaker 1: bother me if I were like a big Ali stard. 126 00:05:41,354 --> 00:05:43,754 Speaker 1: Not necessarily the images, of course, that would be very 127 00:05:43,753 --> 00:05:48,154 Speaker 1: frustrating for your privacy, but just the extreme noise and 128 00:05:48,794 --> 00:05:52,954 Speaker 1: stress of having people like surrounding you, and for your 129 00:05:52,993 --> 00:05:55,353 Speaker 1: guests as well, who aren't all celebrities, although they probably 130 00:05:55,393 --> 00:05:56,833 Speaker 1: are going to be a lot of celebrity. 131 00:05:56,953 --> 00:06:00,234 Speaker 2: It'll be like the celeb wedding of the century with 132 00:06:00,393 --> 00:06:02,314 Speaker 2: all of her celeb friends being there. And I think, yeah, 133 00:06:02,354 --> 00:06:04,553 Speaker 2: you have to have an indoor venue where you could 134 00:06:04,594 --> 00:06:07,913 Speaker 2: really like control everything. And I'm sure everything's been booked 135 00:06:07,953 --> 00:06:10,354 Speaker 2: under fake names and the guests wouldn't even know the 136 00:06:10,633 --> 00:06:13,354 Speaker 2: location until they got picked up by the venue bus. 137 00:06:13,553 --> 00:06:14,833 Speaker 2: But like, I just don't know how to keep that 138 00:06:14,834 --> 00:06:17,153 Speaker 2: a secret. It always leaks in some way, Like even 139 00:06:17,234 --> 00:06:20,753 Speaker 2: Lana Delray getting married with like two weeks notice next 140 00:06:20,794 --> 00:06:24,113 Speaker 2: door by you, like with crocodiles and alligators everywhere, just 141 00:06:24,154 --> 00:06:26,473 Speaker 2: her family and friends, like really no famous people, and 142 00:06:26,513 --> 00:06:29,553 Speaker 2: then there was drones everywhere that got the photos. Like 143 00:06:29,594 --> 00:06:30,474 Speaker 2: they just figure it out. 144 00:06:30,674 --> 00:06:32,794 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we've got some other details. 145 00:06:32,794 --> 00:06:35,793 Speaker 1: We spoke a little bit about this last week about 146 00:06:35,953 --> 00:06:39,753 Speaker 1: Taylor doing like these bridesmaid proposals. 147 00:06:40,154 --> 00:06:41,913 Speaker 3: So there are some rumored bridesmaids. 148 00:06:41,914 --> 00:06:44,433 Speaker 1: We've got Selena Gomez and Gigi who did a pretty 149 00:06:44,474 --> 00:06:46,993 Speaker 1: high up on the list as being her rumored bridesmaids. 150 00:06:47,234 --> 00:06:49,193 Speaker 1: There's also rumors that she's going to be having three 151 00:06:49,313 --> 00:06:51,033 Speaker 1: or four bachelorette parties. 152 00:06:51,234 --> 00:06:53,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds so fun. It was like one of 153 00:06:53,313 --> 00:06:56,313 Speaker 2: the Bahamas, yeap one in Italy? Was there a Kansas 154 00:06:56,354 --> 00:06:59,193 Speaker 2: City one. There's Nashville, Oh, Nashville and New York City. 155 00:06:59,393 --> 00:07:00,234 Speaker 2: That sounds so fun. 156 00:07:00,393 --> 00:07:02,394 Speaker 3: It sounds really fun but also exhausting. 157 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:04,633 Speaker 2: Well, but also just because you know she's footing the bill. 158 00:07:04,794 --> 00:07:06,433 Speaker 3: Of course it would be her private jet. 159 00:07:06,474 --> 00:07:08,953 Speaker 2: If there's any other friend who would have that many 160 00:07:08,953 --> 00:07:10,554 Speaker 2: things in the lead up to their wedding, you would 161 00:07:10,554 --> 00:07:12,393 Speaker 2: just be like, this is exhausting, we can't keep up 162 00:07:12,434 --> 00:07:14,474 Speaker 2: with their nod bank balances too much. But just would 163 00:07:14,474 --> 00:07:16,354 Speaker 2: tell us if you know that she'd organize everything and 164 00:07:16,393 --> 00:07:18,713 Speaker 2: pay for it. And so that sounds like the most 165 00:07:18,714 --> 00:07:20,914 Speaker 2: fun lead up to a wedding for bachelorette parties. 166 00:07:20,914 --> 00:07:22,234 Speaker 3: It does sound like a lot of fun. 167 00:07:22,314 --> 00:07:24,914 Speaker 1: So we've also got like rumors of the rest of 168 00:07:24,914 --> 00:07:28,634 Speaker 1: the bridal party. Obviously Travis's family are going to be 169 00:07:28,714 --> 00:07:31,034 Speaker 1: pretty heavily involved. We know that Taylor has a great 170 00:07:31,074 --> 00:07:35,634 Speaker 1: relationship with Travis's mum, Donna, Travis's nieces who Taylor is 171 00:07:35,674 --> 00:07:38,674 Speaker 1: really close with, and we also think that the wedding 172 00:07:38,794 --> 00:07:41,434 Speaker 1: is gone by way. I mean, obviously I'm with Taylor 173 00:07:41,474 --> 00:07:43,554 Speaker 1: in this and I'm helping her plan the wedding. There's 174 00:07:43,594 --> 00:07:45,314 Speaker 1: also rumors that it's going to be taking place over 175 00:07:45,314 --> 00:07:47,354 Speaker 1: the course of the entire weekend, so we're doing that 176 00:07:47,514 --> 00:07:50,794 Speaker 1: very classic wedding weekend thing that's become a massive trend 177 00:07:50,794 --> 00:07:53,593 Speaker 1: over the last decade where people don't just have a 178 00:07:53,594 --> 00:07:56,874 Speaker 1: wedding on one day. It's you have your welcome party, 179 00:07:56,914 --> 00:07:59,434 Speaker 1: you have your rehearsal dinner, you have your wedding day, 180 00:07:59,474 --> 00:08:02,074 Speaker 1: and then you have your recovery day, which is just 181 00:08:02,074 --> 00:08:04,514 Speaker 1: so popular now. I actually kind of like a nice 182 00:08:04,514 --> 00:08:05,074 Speaker 1: wedding weekend. 183 00:08:05,154 --> 00:08:07,114 Speaker 2: Yeah again, I think i'd tail usift wedding. I would 184 00:08:07,234 --> 00:08:08,834 Speaker 2: be surprised if it went for at least a week. 185 00:08:08,914 --> 00:08:11,153 Speaker 2: But as much as these details have leaked, I feel 186 00:08:11,154 --> 00:08:13,314 Speaker 2: like they'll try and keep everything else super super secret. 187 00:08:13,314 --> 00:08:15,234 Speaker 2: And I'm sure their plan was just to release their 188 00:08:15,274 --> 00:08:17,874 Speaker 2: own photos on Instagram like a week or so after. 189 00:08:18,274 --> 00:08:20,953 Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be choppers and drones and stuff there 190 00:08:20,953 --> 00:08:21,634 Speaker 2: on the day. 191 00:08:21,434 --> 00:08:25,274 Speaker 1: But yeah, someone will find out for SUREA nana. 192 00:08:25,393 --> 00:08:25,673 Speaker 3: Okay. 193 00:08:25,714 --> 00:08:29,194 Speaker 2: So from some weddings speculation to some engagement years, it's 194 00:08:29,194 --> 00:08:30,954 Speaker 2: all very loved up in Hollywood at the moment, which 195 00:08:30,994 --> 00:08:32,914 Speaker 2: is nice. It kind of goes in cycles, like we'll 196 00:08:32,914 --> 00:08:34,953 Speaker 2: have a whole bunch of engagements and weddings and then 197 00:08:34,994 --> 00:08:37,953 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of divorces and separations because they always 198 00:08:37,953 --> 00:08:38,914 Speaker 2: had bat to announce them. 199 00:08:38,914 --> 00:08:40,874 Speaker 3: But what's a nice way to end the year though, 200 00:08:40,874 --> 00:08:41,594 Speaker 3: with some love. 201 00:08:42,074 --> 00:08:45,394 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Miley Cyrus has confirmed that she is engaged 202 00:08:45,434 --> 00:08:48,834 Speaker 2: to drummer Max Mirando. They've been together for many years now. 203 00:08:48,834 --> 00:08:51,714 Speaker 2: Their love stories started in twenty twenty one after they 204 00:08:51,754 --> 00:08:54,594 Speaker 2: were papped together in Miami. So Miley was in town 205 00:08:54,674 --> 00:08:56,994 Speaker 2: filming a special. There were these photos of them all 206 00:08:57,074 --> 00:08:59,514 Speaker 2: on the balcony, all looking like super loved up, and 207 00:08:59,554 --> 00:09:02,354 Speaker 2: there was all these speculations around who he was and 208 00:09:02,394 --> 00:09:05,114 Speaker 2: whether they were together. There were a whole bunch of rumors, 209 00:09:05,114 --> 00:09:06,474 Speaker 2: and then it kind of died down because they weren't 210 00:09:06,474 --> 00:09:08,514 Speaker 2: seen together for a while, and then all of a sudden, 211 00:09:08,514 --> 00:09:11,394 Speaker 2: like they were just together everywhere. So like street paparazzis 212 00:09:11,394 --> 00:09:13,714 Speaker 2: and like some red carpet photos with a real hard launch. 213 00:09:13,914 --> 00:09:15,594 Speaker 2: Here's a fun thing that I didn't know until they 214 00:09:15,634 --> 00:09:17,434 Speaker 2: actually got engaged is that they were set up on 215 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:19,833 Speaker 2: a blind date. I know, I love it, I love that, 216 00:09:20,274 --> 00:09:22,914 Speaker 2: and once again, I say, after we talked to the whole, 217 00:09:22,954 --> 00:09:25,034 Speaker 2: Megan Markau like her friends setting her out with Prince 218 00:09:25,034 --> 00:09:28,074 Speaker 2: Harry on a blind date, Miley Cyrus meeting this lovely 219 00:09:28,154 --> 00:09:30,154 Speaker 2: drummer who she just like, we're going to get into 220 00:09:30,154 --> 00:09:31,594 Speaker 2: some of the stuff she said about him just seems 221 00:09:31,634 --> 00:09:33,794 Speaker 2: super lovely. And I'll just say, the rest of the world, 222 00:09:33,794 --> 00:09:35,713 Speaker 2: my friends included, where are you. I feel like no 223 00:09:35,754 --> 00:09:38,194 Speaker 2: one says anyone else up anymore, particularly. 224 00:09:37,754 --> 00:09:40,834 Speaker 1: In Australia, it's no one does it because everybody's so clique. 225 00:09:40,954 --> 00:09:43,594 Speaker 3: It's not a thing here. But the other reason I 226 00:09:43,634 --> 00:09:44,034 Speaker 3: love this. 227 00:09:44,074 --> 00:09:47,434 Speaker 1: Is this is kind of after she was with Cody Simpson, 228 00:09:47,794 --> 00:09:50,234 Speaker 1: so about a year after she stopped dating Cody Simpson's 229 00:09:50,394 --> 00:09:53,314 Speaker 1: just super public because it was kind of her first 230 00:09:53,394 --> 00:09:56,914 Speaker 1: sort of major relationship after Liam, and she know she's 231 00:09:56,994 --> 00:10:00,794 Speaker 1: dating Cody Simpson, which was super super public. It was everywhere, 232 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:03,314 Speaker 1: all of the paps were all over them. And then 233 00:10:03,314 --> 00:10:08,354 Speaker 1: she's like, it's almost like quietly dating this new men. 234 00:10:08,714 --> 00:10:10,554 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like, again like they haven't been hiding 235 00:10:10,594 --> 00:10:14,514 Speaker 2: their relationship because they're not overly publicly. They walk red 236 00:10:14,554 --> 00:10:17,074 Speaker 2: carpets together, but she doesn't really post about him or 237 00:10:17,074 --> 00:10:19,354 Speaker 2: talk about him too much, and he's sort of always 238 00:10:19,434 --> 00:10:21,074 Speaker 2: just there. Like she even thanked him in her Grammy 239 00:10:21,074 --> 00:10:23,394 Speaker 2: speech when she won, but she just said my love. 240 00:10:23,474 --> 00:10:25,954 Speaker 2: And again I feel like diehard Miley Cyrus fans know 241 00:10:25,994 --> 00:10:28,434 Speaker 2: about their relationship, but kind of a vibe I was 242 00:10:28,434 --> 00:10:30,314 Speaker 2: getting once it was announced, people like, oh, I didn't 243 00:10:30,314 --> 00:10:31,954 Speaker 2: even know she was, Like really with that guy, Like 244 00:10:31,954 --> 00:10:34,594 Speaker 2: that's how much he just he fades into the background 245 00:10:34,714 --> 00:10:35,874 Speaker 2: in kind of like the best way ever. 246 00:10:36,074 --> 00:10:37,434 Speaker 3: And there are a lot of men that do this 247 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:38,114 Speaker 3: in Hollywood. 248 00:10:38,394 --> 00:10:41,194 Speaker 1: He's also he's a drummer, which I think a drama 249 00:10:41,274 --> 00:10:44,874 Speaker 1: in general has more of an introverted personality. Maybe I'm 250 00:10:45,354 --> 00:10:48,474 Speaker 1: like stereotyping a band, but I feel like they're happy 251 00:10:48,474 --> 00:10:50,714 Speaker 1: to be like in the background a little bit more so. 252 00:10:50,754 --> 00:10:52,514 Speaker 1: He's a drummer for this indie band out of a 253 00:10:52,634 --> 00:10:56,154 Speaker 1: like called Lily, and he's sixties younger than Miley. 254 00:10:56,154 --> 00:10:57,914 Speaker 2: He's twenty centes, which I love as well. 255 00:10:57,954 --> 00:10:59,514 Speaker 3: I also love one a well. 256 00:10:59,514 --> 00:11:01,394 Speaker 2: I feel like five and six years is kind of 257 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:04,554 Speaker 2: in the realm of Okay, depending I think it's fine, yeah, different. 258 00:11:04,594 --> 00:11:07,434 Speaker 2: I once someone's a teenager and someone's like in their 259 00:11:07,474 --> 00:11:09,354 Speaker 2: early twenties, but I think once you get into late 260 00:11:09,354 --> 00:11:11,754 Speaker 2: twenties and thirties, it's all much of a muchness. So 261 00:11:11,794 --> 00:11:14,594 Speaker 2: when she was telling the engagement story, she said that 262 00:11:15,074 --> 00:11:16,634 Speaker 2: one of the really hard things for her is that 263 00:11:16,674 --> 00:11:19,754 Speaker 2: she controls every situation. She's the one who organizes everything, 264 00:11:19,754 --> 00:11:22,754 Speaker 2: and she makes all the decisions, and she just kind 265 00:11:22,754 --> 00:11:25,594 Speaker 2: of completely surrendered to the fact that she wasn't controlling this. 266 00:11:25,754 --> 00:11:27,434 Speaker 2: And then they were in Japan on this holiday and 267 00:11:27,474 --> 00:11:29,394 Speaker 2: he got down on one knee with the ring that 268 00:11:29,474 --> 00:11:32,074 Speaker 2: he had picked out, which doesn't sound like a huge, 269 00:11:32,074 --> 00:11:35,074 Speaker 2: like crazy engagement story, but reading between the lines of that, 270 00:11:35,474 --> 00:11:37,314 Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking about her like being a 271 00:11:37,394 --> 00:11:40,114 Speaker 2: child star and being like the breadwinner for her family 272 00:11:40,194 --> 00:11:42,314 Speaker 2: and being the one who was like kind of seems 273 00:11:42,354 --> 00:11:44,954 Speaker 2: to be like the center of organizing and being the 274 00:11:45,074 --> 00:11:47,034 Speaker 2: lynch pin of this whole family who all kind of 275 00:11:47,114 --> 00:11:49,754 Speaker 2: revolved around her. And how nice it must be to 276 00:11:49,874 --> 00:11:52,194 Speaker 2: just have someone who would take a little bit of 277 00:11:52,194 --> 00:11:53,594 Speaker 2: the responsibility off your shoulders. 278 00:11:53,594 --> 00:11:57,354 Speaker 1: And the ring is really gorgeous and so not ostentatious, 279 00:11:57,514 --> 00:11:59,794 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a beautiful ring, don't get me wrong, 280 00:11:59,794 --> 00:12:02,874 Speaker 1: but it's not like those you know, massive Hollywood rings 281 00:12:02,914 --> 00:12:05,034 Speaker 1: that you sometone see that are like ten carrots. It's 282 00:12:05,034 --> 00:12:09,114 Speaker 1: just really gorgeous. Sick band feels very Miley. 283 00:12:09,114 --> 00:12:09,953 Speaker 3: And it's really cute. 284 00:12:09,994 --> 00:12:11,714 Speaker 1: I think it seems really lovely, and you know, she 285 00:12:11,834 --> 00:12:14,034 Speaker 1: said some really sweet things about him too. 286 00:12:14,794 --> 00:12:16,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he comes from a bit of a Hollywood 287 00:12:16,714 --> 00:12:19,314 Speaker 2: family like her, but in a very different type like obviously, 288 00:12:19,354 --> 00:12:22,594 Speaker 2: her dad is Billy Ray Cyrus, the country music style 289 00:12:22,594 --> 00:12:24,434 Speaker 2: who then became no and I guess No One to 290 00:12:24,474 --> 00:12:27,234 Speaker 2: a different generation as being her dad on Hannah Montana. 291 00:12:27,274 --> 00:12:29,234 Speaker 2: But he comes from a Hollywood family in the fact 292 00:12:29,274 --> 00:12:32,114 Speaker 2: that his dad is more behind the scenes. His dad 293 00:12:32,194 --> 00:12:34,194 Speaker 2: is a producer for a whole bunch of reality shows 294 00:12:34,234 --> 00:12:36,834 Speaker 2: and his mum as a production assistant. And what I 295 00:12:37,034 --> 00:12:39,354 Speaker 2: kind of thought was interesting is like Miley has given 296 00:12:39,394 --> 00:12:41,994 Speaker 2: a few interviews, especially in the last couple of years, 297 00:12:42,034 --> 00:12:45,194 Speaker 2: as she's kind of like changed her music, changed her 298 00:12:45,554 --> 00:12:47,754 Speaker 2: how she wants to interact with her fans in terms 299 00:12:47,754 --> 00:12:49,234 Speaker 2: of like she's like, I'll never do like a big 300 00:12:49,274 --> 00:12:51,274 Speaker 2: stadium tour. I can't do that, I'll never do this. 301 00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:53,994 Speaker 2: I'm sort of doing more like quiet releases. And then 302 00:12:54,074 --> 00:12:56,394 Speaker 2: she got this critical acclaim that she had been chasing 303 00:12:56,434 --> 00:12:59,514 Speaker 2: for years with the Grammy nomination performance and kind of 304 00:12:59,514 --> 00:13:01,194 Speaker 2: talking about the fact that she'd always been seen as 305 00:13:01,194 --> 00:13:04,074 Speaker 2: as kind of bubblegum pop Disney girl or someone who 306 00:13:04,154 --> 00:13:06,914 Speaker 2: just got fans through controversy and her wanting to go 307 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:09,714 Speaker 2: and rewrite that story. But she's given a few interviews 308 00:13:09,714 --> 00:13:12,794 Speaker 2: over the years about Max and their relationship. One thing 309 00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:14,634 Speaker 2: I thought was interesting is that she said that she 310 00:13:14,714 --> 00:13:16,714 Speaker 2: always stayed with the wrong guy, and I kind of 311 00:13:16,714 --> 00:13:19,394 Speaker 2: thought here she was really alluding to her relationship with 312 00:13:19,394 --> 00:13:21,674 Speaker 2: Liam Hamm'sworth because they were together for nearly ten years, 313 00:13:22,154 --> 00:13:24,914 Speaker 2: explaining that her mum, Tish Cyrus, always wanted her to 314 00:13:24,914 --> 00:13:27,474 Speaker 2: stay with the wrong guy because they're hot, but she's 315 00:13:27,514 --> 00:13:30,274 Speaker 2: finally with someone who treats her with respect. Now. I 316 00:13:30,274 --> 00:13:31,834 Speaker 2: don't know if that's giving shade to her mum. And 317 00:13:31,874 --> 00:13:34,594 Speaker 2: she said something else, it's like, that's bad parenting advice. 318 00:13:34,754 --> 00:13:36,834 Speaker 1: No, she There's a number of other quotes so I 319 00:13:36,874 --> 00:13:39,474 Speaker 1: saw along the same vein. She's like, my mom was 320 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:42,194 Speaker 1: telling me to pick the wrong man. In that same 321 00:13:42,234 --> 00:13:44,114 Speaker 1: sort of vein, she says, I had to learn the 322 00:13:44,154 --> 00:13:46,234 Speaker 1: hard way because my mummy taught me the wrong way. 323 00:13:46,474 --> 00:13:48,474 Speaker 3: And then I had to learn the right way by myself. 324 00:13:48,554 --> 00:13:48,914 Speaker 2: Jesus. 325 00:13:49,074 --> 00:13:51,194 Speaker 3: Really, it's like really throwing her under the bus. 326 00:13:51,314 --> 00:13:53,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we know Tish Cyrus, I wellly know 327 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:55,474 Speaker 2: a lot about that woman because she does the podcast 328 00:13:55,554 --> 00:13:57,754 Speaker 2: circuit with She's always got one of her famous daughters 329 00:13:57,754 --> 00:13:59,394 Speaker 2: with her. There's like quite a few of them. But 330 00:13:59,554 --> 00:14:00,994 Speaker 2: she and Billy Ray had like a bit of a 331 00:14:01,034 --> 00:14:05,034 Speaker 2: wild relationship and then her now husband Dominique Purcell, who 332 00:14:05,034 --> 00:14:06,714 Speaker 2: I quite love was an actor because he's been few 333 00:14:06,714 --> 00:14:08,674 Speaker 2: of my favorite shows. But they had a very messy 334 00:14:08,794 --> 00:14:11,394 Speaker 2: start to their relationship in the fact that there were 335 00:14:11,474 --> 00:14:14,754 Speaker 2: allegations that he was dating Noah Cyrus, who was the 336 00:14:14,794 --> 00:14:17,914 Speaker 2: youngest of the Cyrus or like down the bottom of 337 00:14:17,954 --> 00:14:18,914 Speaker 2: like one of the younger ones. 338 00:14:19,034 --> 00:14:20,754 Speaker 3: You don't know, he was dating her mother. 339 00:14:21,154 --> 00:14:24,874 Speaker 2: Well, this is the story confirmed this they confirmed, there 340 00:14:24,914 --> 00:14:27,114 Speaker 2: was a fallout around the wedding. No one has confirmed. 341 00:14:27,194 --> 00:14:29,674 Speaker 2: So this is an allegation just covering my basis an 342 00:14:29,754 --> 00:14:32,154 Speaker 2: allegation that he was dating or at least talking to, 343 00:14:32,234 --> 00:14:35,034 Speaker 2: Noah Cyrus, and then he met her mother, Tish and 344 00:14:35,034 --> 00:14:38,074 Speaker 2: fell in love with her. And that's why when Tyler 345 00:14:38,194 --> 00:14:41,074 Speaker 2: and American Park, Yeah, well he's much closer to her 346 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:43,874 Speaker 2: mother's age. I know they're both in their fifties. Yeah, 347 00:14:43,914 --> 00:14:46,754 Speaker 2: so again he has dated younger women before. I don't 348 00:14:46,794 --> 00:14:49,154 Speaker 2: know the story, they've never confirmed that. But then on 349 00:14:49,194 --> 00:14:52,354 Speaker 2: the wedding day, they had this beautiful, like classic white 350 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:55,234 Speaker 2: kind of wedding. Miley Cyrus is there, like standing to 351 00:14:55,274 --> 00:14:58,474 Speaker 2: her mum in a beautiful bridesmaid's dress, smiling, and then 352 00:14:58,754 --> 00:15:00,874 Speaker 2: it was like Noah and one of her other brothers 353 00:15:00,954 --> 00:15:03,514 Speaker 2: were at Costco like posting photos on the wedding day, 354 00:15:03,554 --> 00:15:05,274 Speaker 2: so it was really clear of like one half of 355 00:15:05,274 --> 00:15:08,074 Speaker 2: the family was there and one half of and which 356 00:15:08,114 --> 00:15:09,714 Speaker 2: they've said now they've kind of made up, but I 357 00:15:09,714 --> 00:15:11,634 Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of stuff happening there behind 358 00:15:11,634 --> 00:15:13,874 Speaker 2: the scenes, and also the whole fall out with Billy Rays. 359 00:15:13,994 --> 00:15:16,194 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like Milely Syrus every time she 360 00:15:16,234 --> 00:15:18,314 Speaker 2: talks now and she's like Max is just really nice. 361 00:15:18,314 --> 00:15:20,914 Speaker 2: He treats me with respect. It's not this kind of 362 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,834 Speaker 2: big crazy like she's talked about her only in Pemsworth 363 00:15:23,954 --> 00:15:25,994 Speaker 2: relationship before or around how it was always that thing 364 00:15:26,034 --> 00:15:28,514 Speaker 2: of like fireworks, like they broke up all the time 365 00:15:28,514 --> 00:15:31,274 Speaker 2: and they get back together, and there was always this 366 00:15:31,354 --> 00:15:33,234 Speaker 2: thing that she'd allude to that he thought she was 367 00:15:33,274 --> 00:15:34,714 Speaker 2: like a bit too much and a bit too over 368 00:15:34,754 --> 00:15:37,314 Speaker 2: the top. Yeah, and then they were married, but their 369 00:15:37,514 --> 00:15:39,994 Speaker 2: wedding kind of happened in weird circumstances from their house 370 00:15:39,994 --> 00:15:42,314 Speaker 2: burnt down. They were only married for like less than 371 00:15:42,314 --> 00:15:44,314 Speaker 2: a year, even though they were together for. 372 00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:47,034 Speaker 3: A long time. The marriage was super fast. 373 00:15:47,354 --> 00:15:49,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really feel for her and how and 374 00:15:49,314 --> 00:15:51,554 Speaker 2: why they kind of had that wedding because again, they've 375 00:15:51,594 --> 00:15:54,474 Speaker 2: been together, broken up, engaged, not sure where they wanted 376 00:15:54,514 --> 00:15:56,154 Speaker 2: to be together, so they're going back and forth. And 377 00:15:56,194 --> 00:15:57,994 Speaker 2: then they lost everything in the fire, like all of 378 00:15:58,034 --> 00:16:01,034 Speaker 2: their photos, their memories and everything. And she said that 379 00:16:01,074 --> 00:16:03,154 Speaker 2: they wanted to have the wedding so they could create 380 00:16:03,234 --> 00:16:06,034 Speaker 2: new memories, so they could have photos and mementos and 381 00:16:06,074 --> 00:16:08,154 Speaker 2: like start to like have things in their life, which 382 00:16:08,154 --> 00:16:11,394 Speaker 2: I totally understand. But I feel like after the wedding, 383 00:16:11,434 --> 00:16:13,474 Speaker 2: you would be like, well, all the same problems are here. 384 00:16:14,114 --> 00:16:16,274 Speaker 2: We have these wedding photos because we wanted to, like 385 00:16:16,474 --> 00:16:18,674 Speaker 2: we're probably like still in shock about losing all of 386 00:16:18,714 --> 00:16:21,354 Speaker 2: our stuff, and we wanted to have these memories. But 387 00:16:21,394 --> 00:16:25,194 Speaker 2: now that we're actually married, it's not there anymore. So yeah, 388 00:16:25,194 --> 00:16:27,114 Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting and I kind of like this 389 00:16:27,114 --> 00:16:28,554 Speaker 2: thing that a lot of the pop girls are doing 390 00:16:28,594 --> 00:16:30,874 Speaker 2: with their not Taylor Swift obviously, but a lot of 391 00:16:30,914 --> 00:16:33,114 Speaker 2: the pop girls are doing, like even Charlie XCX and 392 00:16:33,874 --> 00:16:36,834 Speaker 2: stuff of just like these very like low key stand 393 00:16:36,874 --> 00:16:40,234 Speaker 2: behind you boyfriends who were kind of like in the 394 00:16:40,274 --> 00:16:43,274 Speaker 2: fabric of their lives but not part of their fame story. 395 00:16:43,394 --> 00:16:45,674 Speaker 1: I love this too, And the reason I think it 396 00:16:45,834 --> 00:16:49,194 Speaker 1: works so well is because it tells me that the 397 00:16:49,234 --> 00:16:52,914 Speaker 1: person that they're with is secure in their masculinity. It 398 00:16:53,034 --> 00:16:57,034 Speaker 1: feels very much like I'm happy to let my woman shine. 399 00:16:57,514 --> 00:16:59,994 Speaker 1: I don't need to be the center of attention. And 400 00:17:00,034 --> 00:17:02,074 Speaker 1: the reason I think that a lot if you really 401 00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:06,113 Speaker 1: think about David Harber and Lily Allen, for example, you 402 00:17:06,154 --> 00:17:06,833 Speaker 1: can see this. 403 00:17:06,914 --> 00:17:08,954 Speaker 3: So in a lot of his interviews this. 404 00:17:09,394 --> 00:17:12,474 Speaker 1: He kind of jokes about it, but he's taking digs 405 00:17:12,514 --> 00:17:15,954 Speaker 1: at Lily and he seems to be bothered by her success. 406 00:17:16,474 --> 00:17:18,874 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of actors, performers, people in 407 00:17:18,914 --> 00:17:19,874 Speaker 1: Hollywood would. 408 00:17:19,754 --> 00:17:21,794 Speaker 3: Have this ego, which I think is very natural. 409 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:24,554 Speaker 1: If you're a really big alist celebrity, you're going to 410 00:17:24,594 --> 00:17:26,234 Speaker 1: have an ego and you're going to need to be 411 00:17:26,994 --> 00:17:29,313 Speaker 1: hoddled a little bit because you want to lift yourself 412 00:17:29,354 --> 00:17:31,434 Speaker 1: up a little bit. But there's a lot of women 413 00:17:31,554 --> 00:17:33,874 Speaker 1: who Now in Hollywood, we've got like Emma Stone and 414 00:17:33,954 --> 00:17:37,594 Speaker 1: David McCarey, who's, you know, an SNL writer. He's with 415 00:17:37,674 --> 00:17:39,714 Speaker 1: her on all of these red carpets, but he's not 416 00:17:39,794 --> 00:17:43,674 Speaker 1: front and center. He is very happy to hold the purse, 417 00:17:44,474 --> 00:17:47,073 Speaker 1: let them have their moment, stand on the red carpet, 418 00:17:47,154 --> 00:17:50,434 Speaker 1: let them shine. And then even like Jennifer Lawrence and 419 00:17:50,474 --> 00:17:53,194 Speaker 1: Cook Maroni, he's an art dealer. So it's like these 420 00:17:53,194 --> 00:17:54,914 Speaker 1: women who find these men who are just. 421 00:17:54,994 --> 00:17:58,154 Speaker 2: Secure a background boyfriend, someone was happy to stay in 422 00:17:58,154 --> 00:18:00,234 Speaker 2: the background. But like is also I think kind of 423 00:18:00,274 --> 00:18:01,674 Speaker 2: like when you look at a lot of these men, 424 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:04,194 Speaker 2: they do seem to be like super interesting and super 425 00:18:04,234 --> 00:18:06,794 Speaker 2: motivated all these things, but just like I can't think 426 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:08,874 Speaker 2: it'd be I than someone who wants to jump in 427 00:18:08,954 --> 00:18:12,234 Speaker 2: every photo with you or wants to like do interviews 428 00:18:12,274 --> 00:18:14,194 Speaker 2: and like kind of putting you down or like making 429 00:18:14,194 --> 00:18:16,234 Speaker 2: fun of your work or something like that. Like we've 430 00:18:16,274 --> 00:18:18,553 Speaker 2: seen some of these pasts like super famous boyfriends do. 431 00:18:18,754 --> 00:18:21,274 Speaker 2: So I love this. I hope she's a massive blowout wedding. 432 00:18:21,354 --> 00:18:24,634 Speaker 2: I just post like all the videos and socials and 433 00:18:24,634 --> 00:18:26,114 Speaker 2: stuff so we can like live vicariously. 434 00:18:26,114 --> 00:18:26,754 Speaker 3: That's what I want for it. 435 00:18:26,834 --> 00:18:29,474 Speaker 1: It is going to be so different to Taylor swith sweating, 436 00:18:30,034 --> 00:18:32,114 Speaker 1: Like I actually am very excited to see like this 437 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:33,354 Speaker 1: could be a bit of a cool girl wedding. 438 00:18:33,354 --> 00:18:38,874 Speaker 2: A Yeah. So Quentin Tarantino making headlines once again. I 439 00:18:38,874 --> 00:18:40,514 Speaker 2: mean there's one thing you can count on this man 440 00:18:40,554 --> 00:18:43,114 Speaker 2: for is that if he goes on a panel, does 441 00:18:43,114 --> 00:18:45,714 Speaker 2: an interview, does a podcast, in this case, he's going 442 00:18:45,794 --> 00:18:47,834 Speaker 2: to really speak his mind. And a lot of the 443 00:18:47,874 --> 00:18:49,874 Speaker 2: times people are like, yeah, we know exactly what Quentin 444 00:18:49,914 --> 00:18:52,834 Speaker 2: Tarantino is gonna say. He's got a very specific way 445 00:18:52,874 --> 00:18:55,354 Speaker 2: that he thinks movies should be made, a very specific 446 00:18:55,354 --> 00:18:57,314 Speaker 2: way of how he thinks people should behave and also 447 00:18:57,354 --> 00:18:59,954 Speaker 2: how people should watch movies. But in this case he 448 00:19:00,074 --> 00:19:01,954 Speaker 2: called out a couple of big names and that is 449 00:19:01,994 --> 00:19:04,793 Speaker 2: what is making headlines and also has like divided a 450 00:19:04,794 --> 00:19:07,273 Speaker 2: lot of people in Hollywood. So he went on at 451 00:19:07,314 --> 00:19:10,314 Speaker 2: Easton Ellis's podcast, So ifn' not across Brett Easton Ellis, 452 00:19:10,634 --> 00:19:12,994 Speaker 2: he's a writer and also he's done some filmmaking, but 453 00:19:13,074 --> 00:19:16,234 Speaker 2: he's the author of American Psycho and The Shads, and 454 00:19:16,474 --> 00:19:18,154 Speaker 2: his podcast is kind of like a bit of a 455 00:19:18,194 --> 00:19:21,274 Speaker 2: deep dive on film. So Quentin Tarantanno was on there 456 00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:24,594 Speaker 2: to discuss his top twenty movies of the twenty first century. 457 00:19:24,674 --> 00:19:26,754 Speaker 2: So he's going through them and when he gets to 458 00:19:26,914 --> 00:19:30,154 Speaker 2: his number five pick, he talks about There Will Be Blood, 459 00:19:30,754 --> 00:19:34,313 Speaker 2: the Paul Thomas Anderson Oscar Award winning film that came 460 00:19:34,354 --> 00:19:36,674 Speaker 2: out in two thousand and seven, kind of known as 461 00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,834 Speaker 2: very much one of the best movies that has come 462 00:19:38,874 --> 00:19:42,194 Speaker 2: out in the last couple of decades, huge awards suite, 463 00:19:42,234 --> 00:19:44,714 Speaker 2: people still talk about it, and he was talking about 464 00:19:44,714 --> 00:19:46,594 Speaker 2: how much he loved the movie, but then he went 465 00:19:46,634 --> 00:19:49,914 Speaker 2: on to say, it's unfortunate that it also featured the 466 00:19:49,954 --> 00:19:52,594 Speaker 2: weakest male actor in SAG which is the Screen Actors 467 00:19:52,634 --> 00:19:55,714 Speaker 2: Guild Award and also the Lympus Dick in the world. 468 00:19:55,714 --> 00:19:57,914 Speaker 2: So he really got in there. So when he was 469 00:19:57,954 --> 00:19:59,874 Speaker 2: talking about There Will Be Blood and why he had 470 00:19:59,914 --> 00:20:01,954 Speaker 2: it on that place on the list, he said, There 471 00:20:01,994 --> 00:20:03,954 Speaker 2: Will Be Blood would stand a better chance to be 472 00:20:04,034 --> 00:20:06,074 Speaker 2: number one or even number two if it didn't have 473 00:20:06,154 --> 00:20:09,674 Speaker 2: a giant floor, and that floor is Paul Dano obviously 474 00:20:09,714 --> 00:20:12,394 Speaker 2: it's a two hander, and it's also drastically obvious that 475 00:20:12,394 --> 00:20:14,594 Speaker 2: it's not a two hander. And he goes on to 476 00:20:14,594 --> 00:20:17,674 Speaker 2: say he's a weak sauceman, He's a weak sister. So 477 00:20:18,114 --> 00:20:20,594 Speaker 2: in the movie, Paul dno shares most of his scenes 478 00:20:20,634 --> 00:20:23,114 Speaker 2: with Daniel day Lewis, and he really goes on to 479 00:20:23,114 --> 00:20:26,394 Speaker 2: say in this that it was a huge letdown, kind 480 00:20:26,394 --> 00:20:28,793 Speaker 2: of not really getting into the fact that Daniel day 481 00:20:28,874 --> 00:20:31,114 Speaker 2: Lewis is known to be one of the greatest actors 482 00:20:31,154 --> 00:20:34,514 Speaker 2: of all time, and kind of just repeatedly pulling Paul 483 00:20:34,594 --> 00:20:36,954 Speaker 2: Dano's name back in and talking about how terribly he 484 00:20:37,034 --> 00:20:39,273 Speaker 2: was in the movie and how it really takes him 485 00:20:39,314 --> 00:20:42,034 Speaker 2: out of it. And Brett Easton Ellis throughout the pod 486 00:20:42,114 --> 00:20:44,234 Speaker 2: questions him a bit and asks him to clarify, and 487 00:20:44,314 --> 00:20:47,434 Speaker 2: he just keeps really knuckling down on this idea, which 488 00:20:47,474 --> 00:20:50,154 Speaker 2: is upset people because Paul Dano is quite a beloved 489 00:20:50,194 --> 00:20:51,074 Speaker 2: actor in Hollywood. 490 00:20:51,194 --> 00:20:53,834 Speaker 3: He is, and it feels quite cruel this comment. 491 00:20:53,914 --> 00:20:57,674 Speaker 1: It feels really unnecessarily cruel to really dig at someone 492 00:20:57,794 --> 00:21:00,794 Speaker 1: like this from a movie that's like fifteen years old, 493 00:21:00,954 --> 00:21:03,994 Speaker 1: like it's been around a long time, and he is 494 00:21:04,234 --> 00:21:08,194 Speaker 1: known for being a very strong actor. A number of 495 00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:10,793 Speaker 1: reporters have come out in his defense. But you know, 496 00:21:10,874 --> 00:21:13,634 Speaker 1: Paul Dono has been in Little His Sunshine, He's been 497 00:21:13,834 --> 00:21:17,074 Speaker 1: in The Fableman's he was the Riddler in Batman, Like, 498 00:21:17,154 --> 00:21:21,434 Speaker 1: He's done a really big breadth of work in his filmography, 499 00:21:22,034 --> 00:21:26,434 Speaker 1: and it just seems like such a specific hate level 500 00:21:26,594 --> 00:21:28,794 Speaker 1: from him, like there's not doesn't seem to be any 501 00:21:28,834 --> 00:21:30,194 Speaker 1: sort of reason for it. 502 00:21:30,434 --> 00:21:31,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I guess at the end of 503 00:21:31,874 --> 00:21:34,474 Speaker 2: the day, Quentin Tarantino is just like he's a filmmaker 504 00:21:34,474 --> 00:21:36,553 Speaker 2: but also like an extreme film lover. This is his 505 00:21:36,714 --> 00:21:40,434 Speaker 2: entire life, So I understand having these really passionate thoughts 506 00:21:40,794 --> 00:21:43,234 Speaker 2: and like also like I kind of do love that 507 00:21:43,314 --> 00:21:45,954 Speaker 2: he will just have an honest conversation, Like it does 508 00:21:46,074 --> 00:21:48,194 Speaker 2: make listening to him a bit more interesting. But I 509 00:21:48,234 --> 00:21:51,034 Speaker 2: also do really feel for Paul Dano in particular because 510 00:21:51,074 --> 00:21:54,313 Speaker 2: he's not an actor who is really in the press 511 00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:57,514 Speaker 2: or in the news or who chases like any kind 512 00:21:57,554 --> 00:21:59,833 Speaker 2: of interest in his own life. I can just imagine 513 00:21:59,834 --> 00:22:03,474 Speaker 2: Paul Downo and being like like the quietest most reserved 514 00:22:03,554 --> 00:22:06,474 Speaker 2: actor in Hollywood, always like looking very humble. I can 515 00:22:06,514 --> 00:22:08,714 Speaker 2: just imagine him waking up to like the whole world 516 00:22:08,794 --> 00:22:11,434 Speaker 2: like all these headlines, these news articles, people defending him, 517 00:22:11,474 --> 00:22:14,073 Speaker 2: and to him just being like what because he and 518 00:22:14,114 --> 00:22:16,833 Speaker 2: his partner Zoe Cazan, the actress, have been together for 519 00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:19,594 Speaker 2: like such a long time now, they've got two kids. 520 00:22:19,834 --> 00:22:22,154 Speaker 2: They made that movie like Ruby Sparks together when they 521 00:22:22,154 --> 00:22:24,194 Speaker 2: first met, and like they've had this cute little love 522 00:22:24,274 --> 00:22:27,154 Speaker 2: story as two actors that people love who've been together 523 00:22:27,194 --> 00:22:29,954 Speaker 2: for a long time, but they're not really in the 524 00:22:29,994 --> 00:22:30,994 Speaker 2: news cycle for that. 525 00:22:31,314 --> 00:22:33,594 Speaker 1: I also think that Paul Dano is very much an 526 00:22:33,594 --> 00:22:36,754 Speaker 1: actor's actor, Like he is a serious actor. 527 00:22:36,794 --> 00:22:38,114 Speaker 3: You would probably if. 528 00:22:37,954 --> 00:22:39,994 Speaker 1: You went to most people on the street and said 529 00:22:40,114 --> 00:22:43,674 Speaker 1: his name, they may not recognize it necessarily. You would 530 00:22:43,714 --> 00:22:45,954 Speaker 1: got to kind of be a film person, and having 531 00:22:45,954 --> 00:22:50,234 Speaker 1: someone like Quentin Tarantino, who is very well respected in 532 00:22:50,314 --> 00:22:55,194 Speaker 1: the film space, would be quite a dig because they 533 00:22:55,434 --> 00:22:59,194 Speaker 1: live in the same genre of filmmaking, right, they both 534 00:22:59,394 --> 00:23:02,234 Speaker 1: live in that area. So the director of There Will 535 00:23:02,274 --> 00:23:05,954 Speaker 1: Be Blood, Matt Reeves, did actually defend Paul on X 536 00:23:05,994 --> 00:23:09,313 Speaker 1: and he said, Paul Dado is an incredible actor and 537 00:23:09,394 --> 00:23:13,313 Speaker 1: an incredible person, very simple to the point, but I 538 00:23:13,394 --> 00:23:15,914 Speaker 1: appreciate that he said that because I think it's nice 539 00:23:15,914 --> 00:23:17,593 Speaker 1: to have the director of the movie he actually come 540 00:23:17,634 --> 00:23:20,434 Speaker 1: out and defend him. And there's obviously been a number 541 00:23:20,434 --> 00:23:22,634 Speaker 1: of other reporters who've defended him as well. 542 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:25,513 Speaker 3: But yeah, it feels a bit cruel. I don't know, 543 00:23:25,554 --> 00:23:28,754 Speaker 3: it just seems unnecessary to me. Maybe I'm too night, 544 00:23:29,554 --> 00:23:29,954 Speaker 3: I don't know. 545 00:23:30,074 --> 00:23:32,994 Speaker 1: I just I actually really love Quentin Tarantato. I think 546 00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:35,594 Speaker 1: he's a quirky, weird dude, and I love his movies. 547 00:23:36,034 --> 00:23:38,194 Speaker 1: But then I also think about, like a couple of 548 00:23:38,234 --> 00:23:40,234 Speaker 1: weeks ago, when we saw in the news Umma Therm 549 00:23:40,234 --> 00:23:43,434 Speaker 1: and giving the advice to Miya hawk On don't ever 550 00:23:43,634 --> 00:23:45,154 Speaker 1: like wear open tod shows around. 551 00:23:45,234 --> 00:23:47,273 Speaker 3: Quentin just he's obviously. 552 00:23:46,874 --> 00:23:50,714 Speaker 2: A very quirky jay feet and like, I'm I'm kind 553 00:23:50,714 --> 00:23:52,754 Speaker 2: of okay with that. 554 00:23:52,434 --> 00:23:54,594 Speaker 3: With that, it's just, you know, he is a quirky dude. 555 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,154 Speaker 1: He does obviously have a very specific way he makes films, 556 00:23:57,154 --> 00:23:59,314 Speaker 1: and he has very specific actors that he uses in 557 00:23:59,354 --> 00:23:59,954 Speaker 1: his films. 558 00:24:00,354 --> 00:24:02,394 Speaker 2: Yes, and so I think there's a few other actors 559 00:24:02,394 --> 00:24:05,513 Speaker 2: where there are kind of maybe such huge stars they 560 00:24:05,514 --> 00:24:08,273 Speaker 2: wouldn't need anyone to defend them. So maybe people wouldn't 561 00:24:08,274 --> 00:24:09,954 Speaker 2: have jumped in, or there are some stars that are 562 00:24:09,954 --> 00:24:12,354 Speaker 2: probably difficult to work with and their fellow actors would 563 00:24:12,354 --> 00:24:14,074 Speaker 2: have been just like, yeah, you can call that guy out. 564 00:24:14,274 --> 00:24:16,354 Speaker 2: But Paul Dano has really hit a nerve because he 565 00:24:16,354 --> 00:24:18,593 Speaker 2: seems one of those actors who's just friends with everyone. 566 00:24:18,754 --> 00:24:18,994 Speaker 3: Yeah. 567 00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:21,074 Speaker 2: So, like Ben Stiller came out and he put out 568 00:24:21,074 --> 00:24:24,394 Speaker 2: a statement saying Paul Danna was fucking brilliant. Sime Lu said, 569 00:24:24,394 --> 00:24:25,914 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think Paul Danner was an 570 00:24:25,914 --> 00:24:29,313 Speaker 2: incredible actor. Reese Witherspoon Perston was really cute. She's like, 571 00:24:29,354 --> 00:24:31,634 Speaker 2: not only is Paul Dano like one of the greatest 572 00:24:31,634 --> 00:24:33,994 Speaker 2: actors in the world, but he's also a true gentleman. 573 00:24:34,354 --> 00:24:35,874 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, what a thing to say. 574 00:24:35,874 --> 00:24:37,794 Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin jumped in. He's just like, I just want 575 00:24:37,834 --> 00:24:39,314 Speaker 2: to say I love Paul Danno and if you don't 576 00:24:39,354 --> 00:24:41,154 Speaker 2: love Paul Danno, sh so. 577 00:24:41,794 --> 00:24:41,994 Speaker 3: Yeah. 578 00:24:42,194 --> 00:24:44,194 Speaker 1: I think the reason I think it's cruel is because 579 00:24:44,634 --> 00:24:47,594 Speaker 1: Paul is that sort of quiet type. Not that he 580 00:24:47,634 --> 00:24:50,234 Speaker 1: can't defend himself. He's clearly very successful and a great actor, 581 00:24:50,514 --> 00:24:52,674 Speaker 1: but it's just odd. But yeah, I love that all 582 00:24:52,674 --> 00:24:53,634 Speaker 1: these alists. 583 00:24:53,754 --> 00:24:56,073 Speaker 2: Like Josh jumped in and said, like, one of the 584 00:24:56,074 --> 00:24:59,354 Speaker 2: best actors of our time will stop. Yeah, everyone sort 585 00:24:59,354 --> 00:25:01,914 Speaker 2: of just really jumped in to defend him. It's interesting 586 00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:04,394 Speaker 2: even though people who didn't defend him in this moment, 587 00:25:04,954 --> 00:25:06,594 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like all these actors who talk 588 00:25:06,634 --> 00:25:08,914 Speaker 2: tried in the past, like all these stories have come back, 589 00:25:09,314 --> 00:25:11,354 Speaker 2: like the cast of Little Miss Sunshine saying like how 590 00:25:11,394 --> 00:25:14,754 Speaker 2: wonderful he was behind the scenes, or even like Michelle 591 00:25:14,794 --> 00:25:17,874 Speaker 2: Williams who's worked with Paul a few times, and Busy Phillips, 592 00:25:17,874 --> 00:25:20,154 Speaker 2: who's her best friend. I remember Busy Phillips telling the 593 00:25:20,194 --> 00:25:23,074 Speaker 2: story in her podcast once about how Michelle was being 594 00:25:23,074 --> 00:25:26,154 Speaker 2: honored at this big event and she thought the actress 595 00:25:26,154 --> 00:25:28,273 Speaker 2: who played her grandmother on Dawson's Creek was going to 596 00:25:28,314 --> 00:25:30,513 Speaker 2: come and introduce her, and they had this whole thing planned. 597 00:25:30,754 --> 00:25:33,234 Speaker 2: She got ill at the last moment, and so Busy 598 00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:34,834 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, it's okay because we just called Paul, 599 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:37,674 Speaker 2: because Paul will always come and he'll say beautiful things 600 00:25:37,714 --> 00:25:39,834 Speaker 2: and stuff. So I just think it was the wrong 601 00:25:39,954 --> 00:25:42,674 Speaker 2: person to kind of attack. And it's kind of interesting 602 00:25:42,674 --> 00:25:45,354 Speaker 2: now because everyone's rally behind him, and now all these 603 00:25:45,394 --> 00:25:47,513 Speaker 2: people are saying like I'm going to go watch all 604 00:25:47,554 --> 00:25:50,553 Speaker 2: of Paul Dano's movies, like we should have Paul Dano Knights. 605 00:25:50,634 --> 00:25:52,834 Speaker 2: Like it's had this kind of interesting effect where people 606 00:25:52,834 --> 00:25:54,914 Speaker 2: are saying, this is the first time someone's been almost 607 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,994 Speaker 2: like reverse canceled, because as you get canceled, all of 608 00:25:57,994 --> 00:26:00,194 Speaker 2: a sudden, everyone knows your name, and like people start 609 00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:02,874 Speaker 2: putting out stories about you that are negative and everyone 610 00:26:02,954 --> 00:26:05,194 Speaker 2: vows not to watch your movies. It's like this has 611 00:26:05,194 --> 00:26:07,714 Speaker 2: been the opposite where all of a sudden, everyone your name, 612 00:26:07,754 --> 00:26:09,513 Speaker 2: and everyone is like, we're gonna go and have like 613 00:26:09,514 --> 00:26:10,634 Speaker 2: Paul Dano watch parties. 614 00:26:10,674 --> 00:26:12,593 Speaker 1: So maybe this is like the best thing that has 615 00:26:12,674 --> 00:26:14,194 Speaker 1: ever happened to pull that in his career. 616 00:26:14,474 --> 00:26:16,354 Speaker 2: Maybe. And the thing he's probably at home being like 617 00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:17,874 Speaker 2: what like And the thing is now he's going to 618 00:26:17,914 --> 00:26:20,154 Speaker 2: be asked about this every time he does press and 619 00:26:20,194 --> 00:26:23,114 Speaker 2: he's such a kind of almost like a shy, quiet actor. 620 00:26:23,314 --> 00:26:25,154 Speaker 1: And we know that Quentin Tarantino is not going to 621 00:26:25,314 --> 00:26:27,314 Speaker 1: like renegge on this, like he's not going to back drive. 622 00:26:27,474 --> 00:26:27,914 Speaker 2: He doesn't care. 623 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:30,674 Speaker 3: He does not care because he mentions some other actors 624 00:26:30,674 --> 00:26:31,434 Speaker 3: on there as well. 625 00:26:31,514 --> 00:26:34,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing is like Quentin Tarantino knows he 626 00:26:34,274 --> 00:26:37,034 Speaker 2: can say and to be honest, really do pretty much 627 00:26:37,274 --> 00:26:39,434 Speaker 2: anything he wants at the moment and there'll be kind 628 00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:41,714 Speaker 2: of no repercussions. So I think that he would sort 629 00:26:41,754 --> 00:26:44,434 Speaker 2: of see these headlines out today and just be like, 630 00:26:44,754 --> 00:26:46,954 Speaker 2: that's fine. And so as I went through the podcast, 631 00:26:46,954 --> 00:26:49,394 Speaker 2: then Brett Easthanillos was kind of like, what other actors 632 00:26:49,394 --> 00:26:51,114 Speaker 2: do you hate? Probably thinking like in a way like 633 00:26:51,154 --> 00:26:53,354 Speaker 2: this is a goalmine for my podcast, like the listeners 634 00:26:53,354 --> 00:26:55,834 Speaker 2: you would have. He named Owen Wilson, kind of didn't 635 00:26:55,834 --> 00:26:57,634 Speaker 2: go into too many specifics, and I think a lot 636 00:26:57,634 --> 00:26:59,313 Speaker 2: of people are just like, we love Owen Wilson. But 637 00:26:59,314 --> 00:27:02,474 Speaker 2: the other person he mentioned who has taken it really 638 00:27:02,514 --> 00:27:05,954 Speaker 2: hard is Matthew Lillard and that really upset me. I mean, 639 00:27:06,114 --> 00:27:08,553 Speaker 2: the Paul Dano thing sent me. But the thing is, 640 00:27:08,554 --> 00:27:11,754 Speaker 2: like Paul dan always such a critically acclaimed actor who's 641 00:27:11,754 --> 00:27:14,273 Speaker 2: had this incredible career. It's not going to hit him. 642 00:27:14,314 --> 00:27:16,754 Speaker 2: But I know Matthew Lillard has talked in the past 643 00:27:17,074 --> 00:27:20,474 Speaker 2: about feeling like rejected by Hollywood, feeling disappointed, feeling like 644 00:27:20,474 --> 00:27:23,194 Speaker 2: he didn't reach his potential, and I just know this 645 00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:24,674 Speaker 2: would have hit him really hard. 646 00:27:24,434 --> 00:27:27,194 Speaker 1: For those who are going Matthew, Little Lid, Matthew, Little Lid, 647 00:27:27,194 --> 00:27:31,074 Speaker 1: Matthew Little Scooby Doo. He plays Shaggy in the Scooby 648 00:27:31,074 --> 00:27:33,834 Speaker 1: Doo live action movies, and obviously he's in scream like 649 00:27:33,874 --> 00:27:36,594 Speaker 1: he's a comedic actor, but he's sweet. 650 00:27:36,754 --> 00:27:38,714 Speaker 2: Yes, and he was sort of like in the I 651 00:27:38,794 --> 00:27:41,714 Speaker 2: guess late nineties early two thousands is when he had 652 00:27:41,754 --> 00:27:44,074 Speaker 2: his really huge moment. I think like Without a Paddle 653 00:27:44,154 --> 00:27:46,114 Speaker 2: was one of his big movies. Then he did like 654 00:27:46,154 --> 00:27:48,354 Speaker 2: a lot of these comedies. But yes, playing stew in 655 00:27:48,514 --> 00:27:52,194 Speaker 2: the first screen movie a perfect movie, and his performance 656 00:27:52,194 --> 00:27:55,634 Speaker 2: in it is so so good really like propelled him 657 00:27:55,634 --> 00:27:57,714 Speaker 2: to this different level of fame. And it was such 658 00:27:57,714 --> 00:27:59,313 Speaker 2: a thing because I think he and Nev Campbell were 659 00:27:59,354 --> 00:28:01,074 Speaker 2: dating there and they're like the hot couple. He was 660 00:28:01,074 --> 00:28:03,514 Speaker 2: like the guy. And then he's talked about the fact 661 00:28:03,554 --> 00:28:06,954 Speaker 2: that like the Scooby Doo franchise was so successful. 662 00:28:06,354 --> 00:28:08,793 Speaker 3: But also like movies objective, Yeah. 663 00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:10,553 Speaker 2: I doody, I realized I. 664 00:28:11,194 --> 00:28:14,154 Speaker 1: Loved them, but objectively in terms of like criticism of 665 00:28:14,194 --> 00:28:15,194 Speaker 1: the film critics. 666 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:18,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not critically acclaimed. But he said he thought 667 00:28:18,554 --> 00:28:20,234 Speaker 2: after that the phone would ring a little bit more, 668 00:28:20,314 --> 00:28:21,874 Speaker 2: and I think he's ever really confirmed this, but I 669 00:28:21,874 --> 00:28:24,154 Speaker 2: think there was something to do with them not giving 670 00:28:24,234 --> 00:28:26,234 Speaker 2: him like a lot of money to sort of continue 671 00:28:26,234 --> 00:28:28,354 Speaker 2: in that franchise and giving money to other people who 672 00:28:28,354 --> 00:28:30,474 Speaker 2: are in it and all this sort of stuff. But 673 00:28:30,794 --> 00:28:32,754 Speaker 2: then he went on to have like some good supporting 674 00:28:32,874 --> 00:28:35,033 Speaker 2: roles in like the TV show Good Girls and all 675 00:28:35,034 --> 00:28:37,674 Speaker 2: these kind of things. But then he really found this 676 00:28:37,914 --> 00:28:40,434 Speaker 2: next stage of his career with Five Nights at Freddy's, 677 00:28:40,474 --> 00:28:42,674 Speaker 2: the horror movie that came out in twenty twenty three 678 00:28:42,794 --> 00:28:45,274 Speaker 2: that was a huge box office success. And then just 679 00:28:45,354 --> 00:28:48,554 Speaker 2: recently Five Nights at Freddy's two came out and it's 680 00:28:48,674 --> 00:28:51,794 Speaker 2: broken all of these records and like it's done. You know, 681 00:28:51,834 --> 00:28:53,674 Speaker 2: it had a really good first weekend, and as we 682 00:28:53,714 --> 00:28:56,594 Speaker 2: know at the moment, like it's so hard to get 683 00:28:56,954 --> 00:28:59,914 Speaker 2: those box office numbers. And he has come out and 684 00:28:59,914 --> 00:29:02,234 Speaker 2: said this movie has changed my life. So it's kind 685 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:04,714 Speaker 2: of hard that he is in this moment of having 686 00:29:04,794 --> 00:29:08,874 Speaker 2: this career resurgence after talking about Hollywood kind of rejecting him, 687 00:29:08,874 --> 00:29:10,594 Speaker 2: and he's like, I was never funny enough to be 688 00:29:10,594 --> 00:29:12,234 Speaker 2: the funny guy. I wasn't good looking enough to be 689 00:29:12,274 --> 00:29:14,354 Speaker 2: the leading man. I kind of just fell through the cracks. 690 00:29:14,554 --> 00:29:16,914 Speaker 2: And recently he was at a fan event and he 691 00:29:17,034 --> 00:29:18,834 Speaker 2: brought up the Quentin Tarantino thing. 692 00:29:18,994 --> 00:29:25,114 Speaker 4: Quentin Tarantino this week said that as an actor, the 693 00:29:25,194 --> 00:29:29,354 Speaker 4: point is is that it hurts your feelings. The fucking sucks. 694 00:29:29,594 --> 00:29:32,314 Speaker 4: And he wouldn't say that to Tom Cruise, he wouldn't 695 00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:36,314 Speaker 4: say that to somebody who's a top line actor in Hollywood. 696 00:29:36,554 --> 00:29:39,394 Speaker 4: I'm very popular in this room and not very popular 697 00:29:39,394 --> 00:29:42,874 Speaker 4: in Hollywood. Two totally different making possibles in the right 698 00:29:42,954 --> 00:29:46,194 Speaker 4: and so you know, it's humbling. 699 00:29:46,634 --> 00:29:47,194 Speaker 2: It hurts. 700 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:50,954 Speaker 1: So thank you, Nick. 701 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:54,234 Speaker 2: I really respect him for coming out and saying it hurts, and. 702 00:29:54,234 --> 00:29:55,154 Speaker 3: I do too. 703 00:29:55,514 --> 00:29:57,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is, I've seen other actors like 704 00:29:57,634 --> 00:30:00,074 Speaker 2: defend him a little bit, but there wasn't the outpouring 705 00:30:00,114 --> 00:30:02,114 Speaker 2: from all these A list stars like there was for 706 00:30:02,194 --> 00:30:04,594 Speaker 2: Paul Dano. And I also think Owhen Wilson doesn't even 707 00:30:04,634 --> 00:30:07,674 Speaker 2: know this is happening. He's fine, it's fine. 708 00:30:07,754 --> 00:30:10,874 Speaker 1: The difference is you're punching down, and I know that 709 00:30:10,914 --> 00:30:13,834 Speaker 1: sounds awful, But Quentin Tarantino is punching down with both 710 00:30:13,874 --> 00:30:16,834 Speaker 1: of these guys in slightly different ways. Well, Dano obviously 711 00:30:16,834 --> 00:30:19,274 Speaker 1: critically acclaimed but not very well known as an A 712 00:30:19,354 --> 00:30:23,834 Speaker 1: list like Quentin Matthew Lillard, who's you know, done some 713 00:30:24,034 --> 00:30:26,954 Speaker 1: great movies like these horror movies, so we would be 714 00:30:26,954 --> 00:30:30,194 Speaker 1: a bit more Niche he's talked about having a difficult 715 00:30:30,234 --> 00:30:35,234 Speaker 1: career and being insecure. It just is again so unnecessary, 716 00:30:35,354 --> 00:30:37,514 Speaker 1: but it's sweet that he said something, and it's very 717 00:30:37,594 --> 00:30:39,394 Speaker 1: vulnerable for him, and I think he's going to get 718 00:30:39,394 --> 00:30:42,834 Speaker 1: a lot of support from that particular comment. 719 00:30:43,314 --> 00:30:46,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really respected him for standing there and saying 720 00:30:46,074 --> 00:30:48,674 Speaker 2: especially now because he's I'm sure like having that first 721 00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:50,794 Speaker 2: movie be such a success when no one really thought 722 00:30:50,794 --> 00:30:52,594 Speaker 2: it would be, and then having the success of this 723 00:30:52,634 --> 00:30:55,714 Speaker 2: one and seeing people line up to go to these 724 00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:58,794 Speaker 2: fan events and him coming out to either surprise them 725 00:30:58,874 --> 00:31:00,714 Speaker 2: or talk to them before the movie would be such 726 00:31:00,714 --> 00:31:03,274 Speaker 2: a career highlight. And it's just like the timing is 727 00:31:03,274 --> 00:31:05,234 Speaker 2: so terrible as well, but also in a way kind 728 00:31:05,274 --> 00:31:07,794 Speaker 2: of good because if you would just sitting at home, 729 00:31:07,874 --> 00:31:10,194 Speaker 2: as he has talked about, like waiting for the phone train, 730 00:31:10,274 --> 00:31:13,114 Speaker 2: and you heard Quentin Tarantino, who has kind of thought 731 00:31:13,154 --> 00:31:15,314 Speaker 2: of as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, 732 00:31:15,714 --> 00:31:18,274 Speaker 2: say that you're a terrible actor that were hit so hard. 733 00:31:18,314 --> 00:31:20,154 Speaker 2: So at least as he's saying that he's going into 734 00:31:20,194 --> 00:31:22,234 Speaker 2: these rooms where he knows people love him. But I 735 00:31:22,274 --> 00:31:24,914 Speaker 2: really respect him for saying it hurts because he could 736 00:31:24,914 --> 00:31:26,434 Speaker 2: have laughed off and made a joke of it, which 737 00:31:26,434 --> 00:31:28,514 Speaker 2: I'm sure people on his team told him to do, 738 00:31:28,834 --> 00:31:31,074 Speaker 2: because you know he's there for this like wucky, fun 739 00:31:31,114 --> 00:31:33,834 Speaker 2: horror movie. I'm sure there were people on his team saying, like, 740 00:31:33,874 --> 00:31:35,634 Speaker 2: just make a joke of it instead like kind of 741 00:31:35,634 --> 00:31:37,514 Speaker 2: going in and taking the microphone being like, hey, I'm 742 00:31:37,554 --> 00:31:39,874 Speaker 2: just wording acknowledge this terrible thing was said about me. 743 00:31:39,954 --> 00:31:42,474 Speaker 2: And it's really awful, especially coming off the news that 744 00:31:42,474 --> 00:31:44,474 Speaker 2: he's coming back to the screen franchise, which. 745 00:31:44,354 --> 00:31:46,554 Speaker 3: I'm so, so so. 746 00:31:46,354 --> 00:31:48,914 Speaker 2: Excited about, Like we don't know exactly how he's coming back, 747 00:31:48,954 --> 00:31:51,474 Speaker 2: but that's something that fans have been asking for for 748 00:31:51,554 --> 00:31:53,394 Speaker 2: twenty years. Like that's quite a huge thing. 749 00:31:53,474 --> 00:31:57,594 Speaker 1: Well again, maybe this particular comment that has you know, 750 00:31:57,914 --> 00:32:01,394 Speaker 1: outraged people, maybe it's a good thing for both of them. Yeah, 751 00:32:01,554 --> 00:32:03,274 Speaker 1: people will jump out and defend them. I mean both 752 00:32:03,274 --> 00:32:04,314 Speaker 1: of us are defending him. 753 00:32:04,754 --> 00:32:05,114 Speaker 2: Rayl. 754 00:32:05,474 --> 00:32:09,514 Speaker 1: I've not seen a single person a Lista or Ryder 755 00:32:09,674 --> 00:32:11,834 Speaker 1: being like, oh, yeah, Quentin's right, they suck. 756 00:32:12,114 --> 00:32:14,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm sure some things are 757 00:32:14,074 --> 00:32:15,474 Speaker 2: being said in circles, but no one's going to come 758 00:32:15,474 --> 00:32:17,674 Speaker 2: out and publicly say that. I will say, like, it's 759 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:19,954 Speaker 2: probably worth listening to the whole podcast if you're interested 760 00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:22,514 Speaker 2: in this with Breton Quintin, because like, it's a super 761 00:32:22,554 --> 00:32:25,714 Speaker 2: interesting conversation of these two men who think differently than 762 00:32:25,754 --> 00:32:27,434 Speaker 2: I do about a lot of things, but like they're 763 00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:31,074 Speaker 2: very both old school, very masculine kind of filmmakers. But 764 00:32:31,154 --> 00:32:32,914 Speaker 2: it is an interesting conversation as well if you want 765 00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:33,874 Speaker 2: to get the full context. 766 00:32:33,914 --> 00:32:35,394 Speaker 3: So do you want to tell anyone about some of 767 00:32:35,394 --> 00:32:38,234 Speaker 3: his favorite movies before we Yeah, And this is the thing. 768 00:32:38,274 --> 00:32:40,354 Speaker 2: This is where Quentin I cross paths a bit because 769 00:32:40,394 --> 00:32:42,074 Speaker 2: we have a few movies that we both love. But 770 00:32:42,154 --> 00:32:45,114 Speaker 2: his favorite movies top twenty films of the twenty first 771 00:32:45,114 --> 00:32:48,114 Speaker 2: century black Hawk Down. I mean, that's a classic boy movie. 772 00:32:48,274 --> 00:32:48,954 Speaker 3: It is a good movie. 773 00:32:48,994 --> 00:32:50,794 Speaker 2: Though, it is a good movie. But there's some movies 774 00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:52,394 Speaker 2: that all like the men who are like the Matro 775 00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:54,554 Speaker 2: film men say, and he's got a lot of those 776 00:32:54,594 --> 00:32:58,354 Speaker 2: on there. So he said, black Hawk Down, Dunkirk, Classic Boy, 777 00:32:58,554 --> 00:33:01,914 Speaker 2: there will be Blood Zodiac, Mad Max Fury Road, which 778 00:33:02,034 --> 00:33:04,474 Speaker 2: is a great movie. But he also said Toy Story 779 00:33:04,554 --> 00:33:07,314 Speaker 2: three that's so specific, not Toy Story one, not Toy 780 00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:09,274 Speaker 2: Story two, but Toy Story three, which a lot of 781 00:33:09,274 --> 00:33:10,914 Speaker 2: people do think is the best of all the Toy 782 00:33:10,954 --> 00:33:13,634 Speaker 2: Story movies. And he also said What's Lost in Translation, 783 00:33:13,954 --> 00:33:17,554 Speaker 2: which is kind of a perfect movie. So okay, will yeah, 784 00:33:17,634 --> 00:33:18,714 Speaker 2: we cross over there. 785 00:33:18,794 --> 00:33:20,994 Speaker 1: The one thing I really didn't like was his number 786 00:33:21,034 --> 00:33:23,434 Speaker 1: twenty spot, which is obviously the last spot on his list, 787 00:33:23,994 --> 00:33:26,114 Speaker 1: was The West Side Story, but it was a Steven 788 00:33:26,114 --> 00:33:29,794 Speaker 1: Spielberg one, and I'm really offended about that because you 789 00:33:29,954 --> 00:33:33,074 Speaker 1: cannot be the original nineteen sixty one. 790 00:33:33,194 --> 00:33:35,554 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, Well I wonder if he's even seen that. 791 00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:39,554 Speaker 2: But yes, we'll yeah, we'll link the podcast if you 792 00:33:39,554 --> 00:33:40,354 Speaker 2: guys want to have a listen. 793 00:33:40,554 --> 00:33:42,274 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 794 00:33:42,314 --> 00:33:45,954 Speaker 1: Guys, don't forget to follow the Spill on TikTok and Instagram. 795 00:33:46,074 --> 00:33:48,114 Speaker 1: The links to find us are in the show notes. 796 00:33:48,594 --> 00:33:50,514 Speaker 1: Remember that we are serving up all the big of 797 00:33:50,554 --> 00:33:54,154 Speaker 1: It's entertainment headlines on Morning Tea drops at seven am 798 00:33:54,274 --> 00:33:56,994 Speaker 1: in your feeds, so make sure you follow along the 799 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:59,514 Speaker 1: spill is produced by Minisia Iswar and with sound production 800 00:33:59,634 --> 00:34:00,554 Speaker 1: by Scott Stroak. 801 00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:01,634 Speaker 3: Bye Bye. 802 00:34:06,314 --> 00:34:13,873 Speaker 2: La Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 803 00:34:13,913 --> 00:34:16,834 Speaker 2: We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigal people of 804 00:34:16,914 --> 00:34:20,354 Speaker 2: the Oronation. 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