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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seize the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of Seizing your Yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned funentrepreneur

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Speaker 1: who swapped the suits and heels to co found Matcha

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Speaker 1: Maiden and Matcha Milk Bar. Cesa is a series of

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Speaker 1: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 1: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Hello, beautiful, yeahborhood,

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Speaker 1: just quickly popping into your ears. As you may have noticed,

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Speaker 1: we've had a few weeks now without regular episodes. We

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Speaker 1: weren't planning on a break at this time, but have

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Speaker 1: had some sad news in the family and haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to record as usual. In fact, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: recorded this on my microphones because I don't have them

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Speaker 1: so I'm sorry about the quality. We are nothing if

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Speaker 1: not adaptable after the past few years. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your patients during this time, and for those

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Speaker 1: who have seen updates on socials and sent lovely messages.

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Speaker 1: Your kind words have been so appreciated. As we often

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Speaker 1: speak about with times of natia, you can't expect yourself

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Speaker 1: to be as productive and energetic as usual, although I

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Speaker 1: we had planned, so I've been trying to go a

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Speaker 1: little bit more gently. While things are still a bit messy,

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Speaker 1: we're slowly getting back on our feet, and we'll have

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Speaker 1: double doses of YA several times in the coming weeks

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Speaker 1: with the guests who would otherwise have been in your ears,

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Speaker 1: so you won't miss out on anything. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've properly acknowledged the launch of another

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Speaker 1: show with recurring CZA guest kahan Ong, a yighborhood favorite.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we started our spicy little

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Speaker 1: sister pod called Fea Pod, which has been just an

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Speaker 1: absolute blast, and some of you have already been following along,

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Speaker 1: which has been amazing. I thought i'd pop a little

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Speaker 1: taste out of the show in for you while we're

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Speaker 1: on this unexpected break from CZA, just to keep you going.

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Speaker 1: I think many of you will have heard the Fascinating

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Speaker 1: Only Fans episode. It probably isn't something we would talk

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Speaker 1: about on CZA, but it was a very very interesting

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Speaker 1: dive into a completely different world, a very different pathia

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Speaker 1: and all the mechanics of how it works, how much

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Speaker 1: you make, all those kinds of things. But you might

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Speaker 1: not have heard one of our subsequent guests, an episode

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Speaker 1: with James Parr, and I thought that was a perfect

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Speaker 1: episode for CZA. James is an incredible triathlete and model

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Speaker 1: who also happens to be gay and amputee and a

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Speaker 1: First Nations man, so it was just the most fabulous

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Speaker 1: chat on identity and self acceptance. I hope this one

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Speaker 1: leaves you wanting more of the Feast Pod and that

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Speaker 1: you guys head on over to listen to more of

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Speaker 1: their feastivities. The link is in the show notes, and

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Speaker 1: I will be back with more CZA as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2: So I am super excited to be introducing our next guest,

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Speaker 2: James Parr, who is the first Nations triathlete and also

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Speaker 2: recently an amputeite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, facts about me, James park.

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Speaker 2: If you had anything else now, I've got a whole

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Speaker 2: list of little things. But then I was just like

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Speaker 1: Notes, you know, I got cent notes. I got sent

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Speaker 1: a full James Parr brief.

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Speaker 1: But it made me even more excited to have you

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Speaker 1: here for main course. So thank you so much for chowing.

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Speaker 1: Like where do we even start?

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Speaker 3: What do you want to start?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's going to be a massive elephant

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the leg because let's go out.

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Speaker 2: Let's go hard. Yeah, because I've known you, I've known

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Speaker 1: So absolutely hold on, hold on talking about going out hard.

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Speaker 1: How did you meet?

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Speaker 3: I feel like you say the wrong story.

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Speaker 2: Fashion Week first, then Tinder?

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Speaker 1: I heard Tinder, but there's another story.

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Speaker 3: No, it was just fashion trying to flex.

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Speaker 2: No, it was fashion week first, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: like we didn't really meet because I was just like,

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Speaker 2: you know how like you know this about me? At events,

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Speaker 1: Hi, your neck goes like your chin goes into your neck.

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Speaker 1: You go kind of like he did that. That was

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Speaker 1: your first introduction to come he hates me. You kind

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Speaker 1: of have like not resting bitch face, but like resting

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Speaker 3: You saw something just like in his own world that

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Speaker 3: I've got to know you more. I just know that

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Speaker 3: you're sort of just like I'm here for one job. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm there.

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Speaker 2: I'm there to do one thing, and I'm like, yeah, hi,

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Speaker 3: Okay? Cool?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So first Fashion Week, you were introduced by someone

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is, I don't think you know this.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting with my friend Jack. We talked about

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Speaker 3: Shut up. Yeah, we talked abou Jack a lot.

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Speaker 2: So Jack and I were sitting I love Jack Front

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Speaker 2: Road Try Jack, so little flex there because, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I was there for a job. I was working with

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Speaker 2: of Fashion Week. So I was sitting there. We were

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Speaker 2: Jack and I went, he's cute.

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Speaker 1: Wait the PayPal one that we just did, like literally,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Okay, yeah, yep, yeah, so you laid

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Speaker 3: Did you watch me?

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Speaker 2: Oh you didn't know, because we met a couple of

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Speaker 2: so we met a closing show, but I watched you

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Speaker 1: So this story goes way back.

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Speaker 3: Bring the leg into that because when I walked down

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Speaker 1: So these are the things no one tells you about,

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Speaker 1: the behind the scenes. Okay, So you were walking in

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Speaker 1: you then met in.

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Speaker 3: Per person, and.

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Speaker 1: You were just like flirting, but also being awkward with your.

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Speaker 2: Chin not flirting.

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Speaker 1: I was just like hello, and then you just had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, No, you know what it was. I

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Speaker 2: was with my sister, and usually when I'm with Amy,

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Speaker 2: the word's very different where I'm like Amy, Amy, Amy, Amy.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, Okay, goodbye Amy.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously you needed another platform, so then Tinder.

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Speaker 3: I think how long after the fashion week was here?

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Speaker 3: Maybe a month?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you know what's really funny, James, you

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Speaker 2: want to talk about our fucking first date?

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Speaker 3: My god, have you heard this?

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Speaker 1: I have not. This is fresh. He kept this from

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Speaker 1: me in anticipation of recording my first reaction.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I want to keep a good one.

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Speaker 2: I wanted you on, to guess because you've had, like

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Speaker 2: to face so much adversity in your life, and you've

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Speaker 2: gone through so much at such a young age. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, I was like, Sarah, this is

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Speaker 1: Because like, because you guys dated, well.

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Speaker 3: Well you didn't have one on yell everything. Yes, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: what do we do? So? I came down to Melbourne,

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Speaker 3: came cooked me lunch.

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Speaker 1: Did you come just for the date?

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Speaker 3: No? I came. We were going to the Kadashian's premiere.

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Speaker 3: I came. Tommy Hill Figure addressed me. So I came

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Speaker 3: to get the outfit for the Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I at that time I was living Cobram, two

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Speaker 2: This is the week of the Grand Prix, by the way, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: there's everything's connecting for you. Now, why I didn't go

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Speaker 1: It's all making sense.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, yep. So we did that. I went. Then

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Speaker 3: we went out for dinner. Do you went to your restaurant?

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Speaker 1: I was like, ship did made me the other dude?

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Speaker 3: Then then we went got to ice cream.

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Speaker 1: It was a long day, yeah, I know, and it

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I went to drop him off. My car broke

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Now I fucking hate cars and I don't know anything. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So we were on the side of the road by yourself.

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Speaker 3: Ye didn't have an r it wasn't like a rural

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Speaker 3: country town like Cobra. We were on South Bank Bulevards, okay.

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Speaker 1: But still stranded basically.

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Speaker 3: Random pizza players.

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Speaker 2: You can just walk across the road to my house.

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Speaker 1: True, yeah, okay, but you faced adversity together and then

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Speaker 1: what you abandoned your car there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I signed up for our CV, they told it.

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Speaker 3: I went and stayed at Carnes the day after.

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Speaker 2: Well because his car was like, you need to explain

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Speaker 2: what happened to the car because right now it's just

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Speaker 2: broken down. Well, they just told it, okay, to the

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Speaker 2: jeep shop. It was the Saturday night, okay, so.

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Speaker 1: Then you couldn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Monday, Yeah okay, so yeah, so a weekend of fun.

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Speaker 3: Can then drove me home to get clothes, and then

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Speaker 3: we came back to Cobram.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I felt really bad that he couldn't it anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Telling me I've got this long drive, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? All makes sense for me.

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Speaker 2: What had happened was I had a choice on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I could either go to the Grand Prix or take

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Speaker 2: James back to Cobram because he didn't have a car

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Speaker 2: and had no clothes, and we were like doing like

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Speaker 2: It was like sometime soon. So we were like, okay,

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Speaker 2: fuck it, let's go on an adventure. So we went

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Speaker 3: I love a road trip.

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Speaker 2: I love it, like and I loved going into the

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Speaker 3: Olive oil in that's not made, that's not made there

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's actually not that far away from it,

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Speaker 2: though I don't know where it's made. It's just and

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Speaker 2: they used to have farms in Combram. They actually moved,

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Speaker 3: Rich Glenn Rich Glenn is like the where it is oil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, okay, we went to Cobraham. Did

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Speaker 2: we stay in Cobram for a night. Yeah, We're stayed

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Speaker 3: So they're going to get to it after Easter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's literally what we did. Went it went

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Speaker 1: I got that chance. That's like a full on introduction

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wow. We got through a lot because I

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Speaker 2: Like this seeing someone you want to do like weird ships.

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Speaker 3: I always get in the car after I've towed the car,

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Speaker 3: and we're going through Maca's drive through. I just randomly blessed.

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Speaker 1: You just volunteer that information.

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Speaker 3: And does it scare you? So?

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Speaker 2: I was like, every night before I go to bed,

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Speaker 1: Makes like, what do you even say to that? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Well, you just took that in your stroke. I want

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Speaker 3: No? He said emperor and I was like, as he

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. You are an actual psychopath. Oh well, that's

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Speaker 1: actually an amazing story though. That's an amazing how you

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Speaker 2: We also did end up watching Penguin videos that night.

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Speaker 2: You definitely watched them, and you're like, weird house. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that that make the sounds that they do.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I have, because I'm kidding anyway, so forgot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just so you know, he tells like three

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Speaker 3: I tell you one?

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Speaker 1: So you can tell me out with the story, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Own choose your favorite story to tell me pick you're

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Speaker 3: an adventure No, because now you know it's fucking made up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I do have some good ones. The last two

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Speaker 3: ones that I've recently used were the surgeon accidentally I

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Speaker 3: They're the last two of years. I was pretty happy

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Speaker 1: Word They're great. And then what do people even do?

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Speaker 3: What do you say that one? They haven't questioned too

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Speaker 3: much someone actually, someone was like ship, did you go

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Speaker 3: to court? And was like, yeah, it cost me a

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Speaker 3: done bungee jumping, that the cord like ripped.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrid, horrid.

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Speaker 3: Ab sailing Okay, that my foot got caught. I have

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Speaker 3: to fabricate it. Every time. I'm like, it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: make sense. Yeah, it's like seventy two hours.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you know it would be like, wow, I

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Speaker 3: Foot got caught in the rock and then I got

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and that none of that is real? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what rock you for? It wouldn't it would actually

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Speaker 3: Got the puns? Yeah, I need to stop.

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Speaker 1: like that's just click banger. So what actually happened?

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Speaker 3: I had cancer?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you really put your foot literally actually did?

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Speaker 3: That was good? That was also a joke off.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys therapy after this conversation, I'm so sorry. No,

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Speaker 1: but why I'm sorry that you had cancer. If that's

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Speaker 3: I feel it is it is. I had.

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Speaker 1: That's really awful.

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Speaker 3: I had osteopsychoma in my ankle. So that's like a

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Speaker 3: rare bone cancer that when your bone is forming and developing,

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Speaker 3: the cubs get modeled up and then just turn cancerous.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. So that was three years ago now.

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Speaker 3: I'm twenty five, so it was about twenty one twenty two,

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Speaker 1: And how did I mean? Like, I don't feel like

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Speaker 3: To the bone.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, just paint. So I was working out a

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Speaker 3: that was really weird. The mussage just like hit the

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, it was very active. But every time

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Speaker 3: So I left the hospital in a lot of pain.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it is cancer. And then he was

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Speaker 3: I don't even know, Yeah, because just like you have

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Speaker 3: And it was school holidays at times. I was working

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Speaker 3: believe I had it, yeah, And.

443
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: I reckon if you told people, it would make it

444
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: more real as well, so it's.

445
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then my mum has also died from cancer,

446
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: so like deep down subconsciously, I was like fuck, yeah,

447
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: like what's going like yeah, maybe this is the end?

448
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: Wow?

449
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: Like I just yeah. And I think if I talked

450
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: about it more, they would bring that up. And I

451
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: just didn't want to have those discussions. And I didn't

452
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: know all the information myself, so I couldn't give any

453
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: information apart from the Google search that I did.

454
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: Which is always an idea. Google search anything helth related ever.

455
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: But it's so my father went through liver cancer and

456
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: I remember when we got the diagnosis, I spent like

457
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: two days just googling, like looking for anything, and it's

458
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 2: just like you don't really get anything.

459
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: You don't you need to know, some more information before

460
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 3: you find something shit of Google too, and everyone's different.

461
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: It's my case as well, Like everyone's different, but obviously

462
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: you've gone through it, you've had experience with it through

463
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: your mum, so that's even more.

464
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it hit. It hit harder because I just thought, well,

465
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: what you've seen, what is my outcome? Yeah, and when

466
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: you would Google, it would come up in imputation. But

467
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: then when I had those initial you know, appointments and

468
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: those sorts of things to review it amputations ever put

469
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: on the cards. Yeah, they just said we'll give you chemo.

470
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: So I had three months chemo. Then they reviewed it

471
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: and they're like, all we all need to do is

472
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,479
Speaker 3: a bone graft, then you'll have more chemos. I had

473
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: chemo the whole year, so three months of chemo, they

474
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 3: reviewed it. It ended up growing around the whole anngal joint,

475
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: which made sense because when I was getting chemo, I

476
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: was in Like the pain that I had was like

477
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: times one hundred a couple of times. Like I remember

478
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: I was at home and you know, like after i'd

479
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: have chemo, I would be so sick that I wouldn't

480
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 3: talk to anyone. I wouldn't want anyone around. You just

481
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: want your own space, your own time. And so I

482
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: remember I was in that much pain. I think I

483
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: cried for two hours because I couldn't stand the pain.

484
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: But nothing was doing it. And if I moved my

485
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 3: arm it would hurt. Wow, If like I moved my

486
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: head it would hurt. I couldn't do anything. Yeah, so

487
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: and then it would eventually go. It was at the

488
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: hospital one time and they had like given me morphine fatanyl,

489
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: like all these meta like strong pain meds, and nothing

490
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: was killing the pain. Yeah.

491
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Something I think is extraordinary about you in the short

492
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: time I've even been able to speak to you is

493
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: that you've obviously reached this point where you're comfortable enough

494
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: to even talk about this time in your life, but

495
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: also to to not joke about it, but to laugh

496
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: and embrace that part of your identity now, which I'm

497
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: sure was definitely not overnight, definitely not instant, and definitely

498
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: not without challenge. But something you immediately represent is the

499
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: ability to turn the like that deep adversity into something

500
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: that now you're comfortable talking about. You walked on a

501
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: runway as an amputee, Like that is a huge jump

502
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: from the worst news of your life to this is

503
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: now part of my identity, and I.

504
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Am comfortable to talk about it at such a young

505
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: age as well, because you've got diagnosing you what two twee.

506
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I imagine before like someone who is especially active,

507
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: like you know, it would be difficult for anybody, but

508
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: being a really active young man at the time like that,

509
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: amputation is almost the worst possible thing that could ever

510
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: be absolutely, like cancer is one thing, but then it's

511
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: going to lead to amputation. Is just like, how did

512
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: you go from that news to now? I mean, it

513
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: wasn't even that long ago. You're so well adjusted, it's

514
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: like alarming.

515
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I think my childhood really set me up

516
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: for that. My mum died when I was eight. I

517
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: ran away from my dad at twelve with a backpack,

518
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: So all those sorts of things I think enabled me

519
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: to be really resilient and sort of learn how to

520
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: be resilient. And you know, when you get given those

521
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: events in life, how to deal with it and what

522
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: to take away from it. So I think the probably

523
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: like the hardest thing that I had going from you know,

524
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: able body to then disabled was the connotation stereotype in

525
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: the narrative that comes with it, like there's such a

526
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: sad narrative or it's attached to being sad and attached

527
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: to like negativity being disabled, which what is disabled? And

528
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: I didn't align with being sad. I didn't align with

529
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 3: any of that. All those people that had that to

530
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: view then made me feel sad because then I had

531
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: to sit there and reflect think, fuck, like I'm so fine.

532
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: Why these people tell me I should be sad or

533
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: that is sad or I can't do this and I

534
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: can't do that when really I can. I think it

535
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: took me a little bit to sort of pull back

536
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: the word disabled and unpack it myself, take back the

537
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: power of that word, and think, fuck, let's rewrite the narrative.

538
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: If I can give representation or if I have some

539
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: sort of voice or elevation for this, let's change it.

540
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: I used to work at a special school before it happened,

541
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: and there were children with all sorts of physical or

542
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: intellectual disabilities coming from that seeing how they were affected,

543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: not having it sort of close by, if you get

544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: what I mean. So it didn't really affect me, affected

545
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: the kids I worked with, and you could see how

546
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: it would affect them then having it myself yeah, and

547
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: thinking fuck, like this is what those kids have to

548
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: go through and they're just children.

549
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that if for you, even the way

550
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: you phrase it around unpacking the word disabled, I think

551
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: that's something that needs to be done more because it

552
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: is a word that just has these connotations like, yeah,

553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: it's got this meaning and you ascribe sadness and you

554
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: ascribe like challenge and resilience, which of course is part

555
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: of it. But I like that you're out in society

556
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: now representing this new way of seeing it. That you're

557
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: like I can still be on a runway, like I

558
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: can still do all these things. And that's other people

559
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: and especially children can't do that same, Like they can't

560
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: model that same behavior unless they have role models who

561
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: are doing that in public. And I think that's amazing

562
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: that you've taken your experience into that.

563
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think even someone to challenge it because

564
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: it's all internalized. Yeah, like I'm the first one and

565
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: put my hand up and say I'm still ablest. That's

566
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: interesting and not personal, but like you have that that

567
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: thought that you've been taught, yeah, or you know the

568
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 3: same as even when it comes to racism, like I'm

569
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: not saying I'm racist, but you have those instant connotations

570
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: that you've been taught with it and not all the

571
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: time like sometimes like oh that's sad. I'm like I

572
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: actually know, like it's not fucking sad.

573
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

574
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those sorts of things I think at myself.

575
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: And so you know, there was like a year ago

576
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: when and I had an ultrasound on something. I was pregnant.

577
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.

578
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it's been a year.

579
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Because happened, fatherhood. Tell us all about it. We'll get

580
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: to that pregnancy delivery. I want to hear it all.

581
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. So I was with her and she was

582
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: like asking all the questions about interns whatever. I don't

583
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: really care, like I'm happy to educate people. But then

584
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: it always gets to the point that's so sad.

585
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, it's not fucking sad.

586
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: And I looked at her. I wasn't mad. I just

587
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: wanted to challenge it, and I was like, you're just

588
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: saying that because you think that's what you need to say,

589
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: or that's what you've been taught to say. Yeah, so

590
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to challenge it. I'm going to teach you

591
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: not to say it. So, and I just looked and

592
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: I said, okay, so what's sad?

593
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like tell me what that Yeah, And.

594
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: She looked at me and was like, oh sorry, I'm like, no,

595
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: you just said it's sad. So what part of my

596
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: imputation is sad?

597
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

598
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: Like, I get it, but also have a think about

599
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: what you're saying, because you've just reiterated that you think

600
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: my life is sad because I have one leg and

601
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, my life is probably

602
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: better than hers.

603
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating even how when I said I'm sorry

604
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: that you had to go through cancer and you're saying,

605
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: why are you sorry? No one said that to me before, Like,

606
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: no one's made me why. But yeah, but that is

607
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: how you recondition the thoughts. By asking a question back,

608
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: not being like, oh, that's the wrong thing to say,

609
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: but just asking a question back. It kind of provokes

610
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: a different thought pattern.

611
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

612
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so is it your whole leg?

613
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: Like?

614
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: From where was the people?

615
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: Below the knee? So? Okay, just below my calf? I

616
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: still have my calf.

617
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: And how did you get into modeling from special school teaching?

618
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? So in Cobram, my friend owns a clothing shop,

619
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: and well her family does, and yeah, one day she

620
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: was just like, Oh, we're doing some like content for

621
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: the shop. Do you want to come and join in?

622
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Is that Cactus Country?

623
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh? I love that plan to you that you know

624
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: what character's country.

625
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: We went to a cactus farm. Wait, not a farm country.

626
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: It's not a whole country.

627
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: It's like you guys did like a full one year. Okay,

628
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: I always say this is just a massive aside. Sorry

629
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: to interrupt, but just quickly. Gay time is like different

630
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: hetero time. Straight, No, it is not. I'm not connotations whatsoever,

631
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: but like different time. Like I feel like you guys

632
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: did like a year's worth of relationshipping in like five days.

633
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: I think it was more that, like we were kind

634
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: of thrown into having to do things. So I was like,

635
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: we're in Cobram.

636
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Let's do the activities.

637
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: Ye well, he drove so on the way. I was like,

638
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: let's just plan something fun. Like why you.

639
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Just went like a cute old married couple. Remember cactus country. Honey.

640
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: We also went to like a stone fruit farm.

641
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was fun, so wholesome.

642
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: I was like, these are the things.

643
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: The cactus country was kind of cool, except I'm like, okay,

644
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: we'll see all.

645
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: The Yeah, Cactus Country is like one and done.

646
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're you're like on all the campaign photos.

647
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's just for a shot.

648
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Okay. The real reason this country.

649
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: Why I took him there to Cactus Country because you

650
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: fit right in. You're a brick boom. On that note,

651
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining all the time that

652
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: we have today.

653
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: If you want to learn more about James.

654
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: It was a short face.

655
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: If you want to learn more about James park, don't.

656
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: There is so much more to James Parlo. Literally, it's

657
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: like a mind map of questions. I'm like, where do

658
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: I what.

659
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: Were we even talking about Cactus Country modeling?

660
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: So how did you go from special school teacher to

661
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: then this journey in the middle that's like a whole

662
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: process of diagnosis, diagnosis, amputation and.

663
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: Then learning to walk yeah, and going.

664
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how did you build?

665
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: What do you want to talk about? First?

666
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: So you had the had the amputation, and then you

667
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: weren't working. Obviously you couldn't have work during that time,

668
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's start from there. What was the immediate

669
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: relearning to walk?

670
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so have the amputation, had the amputation done on

671
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: a Tuesday, five days after they told me. What, Yeah,

672
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: that's fine. Yeah? Is that because they's getting spreads or

673
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: I don't want me to run away? No? No, yes.

674
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: You know all those tiktoks about like how you make

675
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: a morbid joke to someone and they're like not ready

676
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: for it, and you're just.

677
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: Like, I'm just like I laughed fucking profile on Tinder

678
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: like personality nine out ten looks like I don't remember

679
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: the numbers eight out.

680
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: Ten legs And then it's like the little thing is

681
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: perks of dating me, good car parks for the rest

682
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: of our lives.

683
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have a disabled cigar.

684
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: That's actually why I chopped it off.

685
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: We need I had five days and then I realized

686
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: this is going to save me a lot of time

687
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: in the future. Okay, so we're gonna go for movies together,

688
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: just so I can like walk to the door quickly. Fair,

689
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: you've done this is my problem. I'm like, you made

690
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: me too.

691
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: You can take one of my legs with you and

692
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: just like slip it in your pa I have a

693
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: spare one. Actually, it's like, girls, do you know what

694
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: that's when we fucking dropped your car off. You're like,

695
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: I should take the leg out of the car.

696
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: No, because here eighteen so expensive eighteen thousand, Yeah, it's

697
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: so expensive.

698
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: I have, like, so this one on me right now?

699
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: Is it a blade?

700
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: No? Yeah, the blades eighteen, This would be twelve run

701
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: with Yeah, this is twelve, the blades eighteen. I have

702
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: a waterproof one, which is probably I think eleven.

703
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

704
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: Have a cycling one is six the waterproof fucking never. Yeah,

705
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: like I know, because like if I go to the beach,

706
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 3: like the river out the river, because you I don't

707
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: know anymore, but I also feel like I need That's

708
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: what I got. The look for has a little slipper

709
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: on the end. Doesn't really all right, So I believe

710
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: you for a second when you said flipper, you won't

711
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: be zerous. Oh no, it has an actual foot. It's

712
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: like a woman's one. I mean, I don't know how

713
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense, but it's just like it's so

714
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: narrow that I associate it with the women's foot.

715
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, so five days of five days to

716
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: get this whole orientation in your brain.

717
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So yep, had the appointment. I actually woke

718
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: up I think I'm a little bit psychic, but I did.

719
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother whole yeah.

720
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: And it is anyway, So I actually had woken up

721
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: and had a little vision of my surgeon telling me

722
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: amputation before yeah. Yeah. So I the whole day up

723
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: until the appointment, I was like googling prosthetics, googling people

724
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: had prosthetics, and like looking at the way that they

725
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: walked and then the way that they moved, and just

726
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: wanted to make myself comfortable with it. So we get

727
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: to the appointment. I was with my nan and when

728
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: you go up at Peter McCallen, they print you like

729
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: a slip for your appointment, printed out two slips. I

730
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: was like, cheeky, I feel like I know, And so

731
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: I had already processed it. I was okay with it.

732
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: In that morning. I was like, right, I've accepted it.

733
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: This is what's going to happen. So then were getting

734
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: to the appointment and eventually he is amputation. It was

735
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: either that or they removed the whole ankle joint. A

736
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: rod goes up the middle, so then the bones like ba.

737
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: So then I would have it stay like dead ankle.

738
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: Then I'd need plastic surgery because the skin was contaminated

739
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: by the cancer, greater risk of it coming back, and

740
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 3: I would have a limp for the rest of my life,

741
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: and that surgery would take longer to organize. So it's

742
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: probably going to end up as an amputation something as well.

743
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: Just chop it off now. So amputation. It was sort

744
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: of like because I had already accepted, I knew it

745
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: was going to happen. Everyone's just like staring at me

746
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: in this room. My nan that was like little crying.

747
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's fine. She was like praying.

748
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: I think, oh, bless And I.

749
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: Was like, no, no, it's fine, and they were all

750
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: like staring at me. I'm like, no, I'm fine. I

751
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: signed it and then yeah, I was like, someone's going

752
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: to happen, Like, oh, next.

753
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Tuesday, I call a clean the schedule.

754
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: Literally, So yeah, I had the amputation done on Tuesday.

755
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: Going into into the amputation, I just was like the

756
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: most bizarre feeling because you're like, I'm about to have

757
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: something that's going to change my whole life and I

758
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to impact my life or

759
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: change it.

760
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: And you could still walk at that stage right like

761
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to make any decisions.

762
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: Painful as well. Yeah, so it was sort of like

763
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: get rid of it, but then it was like, yeah,

764
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: I really I've had it for twenty one years.

765
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I just deal with this pain?

766
00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

767
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: And will it go or anyway? So had that wake

768
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: up you wake up with an epidrool, so ultra sounded.

769
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: The delivery.

770
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and so wake up with an epi drool

771
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: you have ketamine like you're on some ship in akle.

772
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: I hated it because I couldn't move. I couldn't do anything,

773
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: and the thought and the feeling knowing that I had

774
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: an epidrool, it was like fuck, what if I move

775
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: and I like paralyzed, like I don't know. It was

776
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: like constantly freaking me out. And the second thing was

777
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: was like I don't want to ship in.

778
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: A bed, that's your main concern.

779
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 3: Literally. So then it got to the Friday. I argued

780
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: with them all day. They turned everything off and I

781
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: never had pain since. Yeah, I actually thought would be

782
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: really painful. I know that sounds crazy, and I think

783
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: about it all the time, like whoa, I'd my leg

784
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: chopped off and it didn't hurt because they close off.

785
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: But they would close off your nerve endings or.

786
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: Because I can feel it all okay, but because.

787
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: You would have an open wound at the bottom right

788
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: like at the stump.

789
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 3: Of well, yeah, they stitch it up. Yeah, but.

790
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: Would hurt.

791
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: No, nothing, nothing actually hurt.

792
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: So from the moment that it gets amputated, how long

793
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: until your prosthetic comes?

794
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

795
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: And then like how does that How long does that

796
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: process take?

797
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: Right? So I went home. I was home for two

798
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: and a half weeks on crutches, waiting for the wound

799
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: to heal, so I said in hospital. They sent me

800
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: home a week after It was probably another week and

801
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: a half that I then went back and then they

802
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: cleared the wound to then be healed ready for a prosthetic.

803
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: You go to rehab. Then they give you the leg

804
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: that they have there basically for you to learn while

805
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: they order you in the whole leg. Yeah. So, like

806
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: I was in patient rehab because I lived in crobraam

807
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: and I was back on chemo. So yeah, I went

808
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: back onto chemo a better month after.

809
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: Did you have like a recurring cancer that wasn't there

810
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: or was it? Was it like preventative preventative? Okay?

811
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: Once I dropped off to then make sure that your

812
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: whole body was flushed. Yeah yeah, oh gosh, to make

813
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 3: it a bit more safe. So I was back on chemo.

814
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: I was in the rehabit like Saint Vincent's, and there

815
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: was like it was just like a very depressing place.

816
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 3: And so yeah, it probably took me about a week

817
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: one side because I was so unmotivated to actually get

818
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: up and like do the rehab. And I was back

819
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: in chemo as I was like sick. But and then

820
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: once I felt actually comfortable to sort of lean onto

821
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: it and put my whole body weight. Plus in that

822
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: time that I was home, I shifted my whole center

823
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: of gravity to the left side of my body, so

824
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: then I had to realign that, and that whole process

825
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: probably took a week and then and I was in

826
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: rehab all together three weeks and then yeah, I was fine.

827
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's it seems like a really short

828
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: amount of time.

829
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: Like honestly, in my mind, I thought it was going

830
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: to take months.

831
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow.

832
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: How long until because you're also a triathlete, so how

833
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: long did it take for you to learn then to run?

834
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: Because I think that would be totally different, right than

835
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: learning how to walk again, because like running longest dance.

836
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: Running on this is different to running on the blade.

837
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: So running on this this gives me no feedback from

838
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: the ground, no energy, you know, nothing. I can run

839
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: on this but a long distance. So my very first

840
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: triathleon was in this. Oh and I ran on this.

841
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: So the longer I run on this, the more it

842
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: feels like a plank of wood, like it's just you know.

843
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: Came third anyway, in case you were rendering, I.

844
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: Was definitely wondering, I thank you for feeling for me.

845
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: And that's only three people.

846
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: Was that is extraordinary? Like a one month rehab and

847
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: now a triathlete?

848
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: What So the blade I probably only got about a

849
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: year ago because the original processus fucked the blade and

850
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: so I we nearly.

851
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Went to court, as in like you ordered it, but

852
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: you didn't get it.

853
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: So and built it.

854
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you cut it too short. Oh okay, so

855
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: then I had to, oh my gosh, for a refund.

856
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: It's like a whole different kind.

857
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: It was like the person so it's like yeah, okay, yeah,

858
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: someone like you have a processus that will then build

859
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: it and fit it to you.

860
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but once you cut it. You can't.

861
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: You can't.

862
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh.

863
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you go from like a walking again

864
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: to like athletes running? Were you tte before?

865
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: No? Oh my gosh, I think in that time. No,

866
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

867
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: James.

868
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: I'm so confused now because I was like, oh, wait,

869
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: what you get to try?

870
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Try?

871
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay? How do you get into a triathon without being

872
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: an amputee?

873
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

874
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Let alone. You had to relearn to walk true and

875
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: and and come third. Like, it's not just like I

876
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: finished one in five thousandth place. It's a legit got

877
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: a place on the podium. What do you mean?

878
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, I just did it. I

879
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: think before the amputation happened, I was I was doing

880
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: CrossFit like six times a week, okay fit. I was

881
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: very fit, and I think that was on my on

882
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: my side, especially with the whole walking again and all

883
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. I was already thinking about starting

884
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: triathlons when that happened. So when the amputation happened, I

885
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: was like, I know, no, they're actually pretty easy training stop.

886
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine dealing with that, Like, well.

887
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: It's a paratrython, so it's half as a normal triython.

888
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, so it's way easier. It's still a

889
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: freaking triathlon, dude, Like, wow, that's still like it just

890
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: finishes in a half marathon.

891
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm really scared of deep water.

892
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: I am too. Sometimes I really don't worry, Yeah, because

893
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: I reckon.

894
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: If I'm out there, it's open ocean, isn't it.

895
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the bay, yeah, that would ship me. Like

896
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: I would like be like no, I would swim the

897
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: river and get anxiety and nearly cry cry in the river.

898
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: I could, yeah, literally take it back.

899
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: I was like, I remember before I came home in

900
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: the summer, I was like swimming in the river and

901
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: I went under the bridge. I was so fucking deep.

902
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: You know that bridge. Yeah, And I got to that point,

903
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: just this one point, I was like, I know there's

904
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: no sharks, yeah, but if something attacks me, you don't know,

905
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: no crocodile something, because like losing the leg.

906
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: No, but you know what I mean.

907
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: And I would like, yeah, like what's the hyperventilate and

908
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: you just went to the side then, No, I was

909
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: under the bridge. There's no side there.

910
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: True, the logistics of the parad I know the bridge,

911
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure when we were there.

912
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: It was quite shallow because it was summer.

913
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: Don't yeah probably, no, no, no, it was very it's

914
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: the murraymy Okay, well when I was swimming, and it

915
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: was very because I was like in the Murray drink.

916
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: February March is at the end of summer, which means

917
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: that there's no caps have already melted, which means that

918
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: it's going to be quite.

919
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: This was like spring.

920
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: Okay, we were there.

921
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no water.

922
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true, Okay, So I mean you've obviously taken

923
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: it in your stride. Oh thanks, thanks. I was just

924
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: waiting to draw that one in and gone on to

925
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: do things that you weren't even doing before the amputation

926
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: and running, swimming, riding, modeling, modeling. Yeah, like it obviously

927
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: hasn't held you back in any way. So how did

928
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: the modeling come about? Then?

929
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Cactus Yeah, my friend has a family owns

930
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: the clothing shop. They're doing some promos for that. Went

931
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: to Cactus Country. We did this just sort of like

932
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: little video like yeah anyway, yeah, sort of circulated online,

933
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: and then about a month later I had a creative

934
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: agent that was doing a photo shoot and directing campaign

935
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: sitting to my DMS was just like, hey, do you

936
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: want to come a model for us? And that was

937
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: my first paid one, and I was like, sure, okay,

938
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: I'll do it. So I did it, and then that

939
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: was like on the I corner and I sort of

940
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: went second job or was job? This one was for

941
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: jam the label, and then it was like on the

942
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: Iconic and all this sort of stuff. Then that circulated

943
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: and then I'm ordeled for some I can't even remember,

944
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 3: but I did like little ones here and there, and

945
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: then yeah, I had an agency reach out and I

946
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: said no because I was like, this is not a thing.

947
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like what I do.

948
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just doing it for fun. Then they

949
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: reached out again with.

950
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: The job you got scouted.

951
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they reached out to me again. They're like,

952
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: we have a job for you. So I was like,

953
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: I'll do it. So I signed with them, did the job,

954
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: and then yeah, it just kept it was fast evolving,

955
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: and then next minute I was on a runway.

956
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: Oh so did you ever go back to teaching or

957
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: did you go straight to modeling.

958
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: No, No, I did both. So I worked down in

959
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: Corobbin full time and then I would balance the two. Yeah,

960
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: so I would like there were times that I would

961
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: finish work at three o'clock, come to Melbourne, do a.

962
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: Job and drive home and drive home.

963
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, I did that quite quite a

964
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: few times.

965
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: So how long has the modeling career been, like from

966
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: now backwards? How long have you been doing it?

967
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: Two years?

968
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's kind of right.

969
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: So it's still like it was during COVID, So it

970
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: was still yeah, and it's still like evolving. So I

971
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: think the more you do, the more you aim out

972
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: there and those sorts of things, the more people find you.

973
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: And I think my mission with that is representation. And

974
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: I bring that back to myself because, like I said

975
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: to you guys before, when I went from able to disabled,

976
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: I had just that struggle and that in owning the

977
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: word I'm disabled, that was the only thing that I

978
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: was like, per se embarrassed about. And I still sometimes

979
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: can be like you know, and yeah, So I thought, well,

980
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: why not use this as an opportunity to show others

981
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: that it's not sad and to provide representation for the

982
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: whole disabled community and also just anyone, because realistically, we

983
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: can become disabled at any point. I guess I'm a

984
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: perfect person to say that. And I think if that

985
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: was ever happened to anyone, they shouldn't have a hard

986
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: time with it. They should be able to just take

987
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: it and be like, right, this is it, not feel

988
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: judged or embarrassment or shame because then they are disabled.

989
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: And if this can be my little bit to sort

990
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: of show that and teach that and help someone else

991
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: through that, then I'm done. Yeah, I've done my job. Yeah.

992
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: The big kind of theme underlying this main cause was

993
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: identity and how it can change so much, either voluntarily

994
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: or abruptly and involuntarily, but I like how you have

995
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: let it not consume your identity but be part of

996
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: it in a way that you're like, I'm going to

997
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: control how this becomes.

998
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: Past back the exactly because it's not who I am. Yeah,

999
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: but it is a part of me, and it's very visual,

1000
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: especially when I wear short so it's the first thing.

1001
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: And I also sometimes even get like offended when you're like, oh,

1002
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: this is James is an amputee. That's not all I am, sure,

1003
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty fucking cool too. I didn't want to

1004
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: say that.

1005
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: That's the other thing I wanted to ask on this

1006
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: identity piece is I feel like in areas like this,

1007
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get either discrimination or curiosity or whatever it

1008
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: is from able bodied people, but that sometimes then you

1009
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: even get the same from other disabled people because you're

1010
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: able passing. Does that ever happen, like because you can

1011
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: hide your disability or because it's a less extreme on

1012
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: the spectrum. Do you get kind of put in a

1013
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: weird box by other people because they're like, you're not

1014
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: really struggling the same way we are, or you can

1015
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: hide it with pants or whatever.

1016
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I think as well, the important thing to take

1017
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: away from that situation or what you just said, is

1018
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: that everyone has struggles in their life. Yeah, and I

1019
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: think we can all acknowledge that, whether it's physical like

1020
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: my disability or not, we all have different struggles. So

1021
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: I think that's the first thing for other people to acknowledge,

1022
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: especially the disabled community. So I think that they do

1023
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: know that, But there have been times when people or

1024
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: other people would say, oh, you wouldn't know, you just

1025
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: you're yeah.

1026
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not disabled enough.

1027
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like what is that?

1028
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that even mean?

1029
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's why.

1030
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: It was interesting.

1031
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: It's only happened like maybe twice, okay, and I've just

1032
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: sort of brushed it off because I'm like.

1033
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: That's you, Yeah, that's not me.

1034
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, But also like that could just be having a

1035
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: bad day and just really reflecting upon their disability or yeah,

1036
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: you know, because there are days even for me like

1037
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: sometimes I might you know, the last three months, I

1038
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: think when I got back from Sydney, I had a

1039
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: precious all the whole time, and basically my pros or

1040
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: rubbings my proceetic was like rubbing on this one part

1041
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: and I ignored it. So because I ignored it, I

1042
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: then suffered longer because I have had constantly for three

1043
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 3: months issues with my prosthetic and I haven't been able

1044
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: to walk properly or do the things that I want

1045
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: to do training anything. And I've only been wearing it

1046
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: up until the last month, only been wearing it and

1047
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: doing the things that I literally had to do in it.

1048
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would hurt.

1049
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: So there like there's that aspect where you know, in

1050
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: that time, I would be like fuck, yeah, I could

1051
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: have that same change, I could have the same thoughts,

1052
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't think it would be fair to

1053
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: say anyone's situation is worse than others, Yeah, because I

1054
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: think there's so much more encapsulated into that mm hmm.

1055
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 1: That's why I find it interesting when anyone who's got

1056
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: a unique experience, if they get trold or anything, if

1057
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: it's from people in that niche group, it always seems

1058
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: almost more abrupt because it's like you kind of get

1059
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: what I'm going like, you know, and I'm not that

1060
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: I speak from experience in that area, but it's just sometimes.

1061
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: You see it and it does make sense, and sometimes

1062
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: you do think about it. Do they think that you

1063
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And I don't know, So I

1064
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: probably am more conscious of it because I sometimes have

1065
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: those thoughts myself too, Like I wonder if they think

1066
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 3: just have a prosthetic like who cares? You're fine, which

1067
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: I am, But like, I don't think anyone's.

1068
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: Situations worse than anyone else.

1069
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: Last what you make it?

1070
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, than.

1071
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Story is so amazing. There's a lot for people to

1072
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: learn from it as well. They're like, you've got this

1073
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: amazing outlook. You're just kind of like yeah cool.

1074
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. When I was driving here, I was like, fuck,

1075
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: it just feels like a whole other life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1076
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: Like I even look at photos or pictures of me

1077
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: when I was going through the treatment. I had no

1078
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: hair and I was so bloated all the time, and

1079
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: or even photos of me when I had two legs.

1080
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: I think I look weird. I'll show you one. I

1081
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: look weird with two legs.

1082
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Do you ever have phantom feelings?

1083
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes, and no phantom very.

1084
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Rarely, but you sometimes do.

1085
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be like a sharp shooter up the hill,

1086
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Like as I'm walking basically with a phantom pain, your

1087
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: brain doesn't recognize that that body part is missing, so

1088
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: we send a pain signal to get a response. Ah.

1089
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you may feel your ankle even though it's not.

1090
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I can. I'm moving my big toe right now.

1091
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so cold.

1092
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: That's non existent, So your.

1093
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Neural pathway is kind of still there.

1094
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And every now and then, when it's something I

1095
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 3: don't do every day, or I go to a trip

1096
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: or something, I use my foot that's not there. Yeah,

1097
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: like I just so cool. I can feel it when

1098
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: I do it, but it makes any sense? Yeah? Wow. Yeah.

1099
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: The first couple of days after surgery, do you know

1100
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 3: when you have that feeling you just want to stretch

1101
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: your toes out. Yes, that's all I had for like

1102
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: four days. But then I realized that obviously it's just

1103
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: my brain, so I would distract myself and then it

1104
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: would forget about it and done.

1105
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I was reading that your background is your

1106
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: First Nations, Yeah, which is another area, Like I kind

1107
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: of believe it took us a whole episode to get here.

1108
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: There's just so much about you that's fascinating. That's another

1109
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: area of being First Nations, being white passing. How is

1110
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: that it's such an identity piece, Like you have so

1111
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: many facets of identity, where many people only have one

1112
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: or two. You've kind of got so many layers wrapped

1113
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: around each other. How has your first nation's background added

1114
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: to your whole identity piece?

1115
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1116
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: How do you get that whole white passing thing from that?

1117
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Sometimes people are you're.

1118
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: White, Yeah you're not, Okay, I am Nations?

1119
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 3: Cool?

1120
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what are you saying?

1121
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you can add milk, but it's still

1122
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: coffee baby.

1123
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: Ye A good way to explain.

1124
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like my dad is darker toned, my mom's Irish.

1125
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: I have my mum's skin. Yeah, and so it comes

1126
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: from my dad's side. I left my dad at twelve,

1127
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: so I didn't really have too much knowledge about it.

1128
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: I've just sort of learned over time and something that

1129
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: I really wanted to learn about, and reconnecting with mob

1130
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: and my people, like you find your place the white path. Like,

1131
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: sometimes I am in situations and I think, fuck, do

1132
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: other people look at me? Think why the fuck are

1133
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: you here? Yeah, you know, it probably doesn't happen. It's

1134
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: probably just me thinking that. But there are like people

1135
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: white shaming me all the time. Yeah, yes, I'm white, but.

1136
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: First Nations.

1137
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's still in my blood, still my family,

1138
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: it's still my culture. I still identify as a what's

1139
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: your point? Like, you know in saying that, do you

1140
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: get it? Yeah, it's not that I don't understand it. Yeah,

1141
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: I would probably think the same. Yeah, if I was younger,

1142
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: I didn't have any knowledge to it, Yeah, I would

1143
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: probably think the same. But then it gets to the

1144
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: point where I'm like, why do I have to keep

1145
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: explaining myself and my mom's sorries?

1146
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you need a T shirt that just

1147
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: explains it Irish and just that's it. Like, but I

1148
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: don't want to explain this over and over again.

1149
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: People trying to white wash us. This is what happened.

1150
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's why I find it so interesting. One

1151
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: of my really good friends, Rachel Sarry, is an Indigenous

1152
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: artist and she's quite white passing as well and offered,

1153
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: but she's very connected to MOB and and has been

1154
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: on contry a lot, and I mean her art is

1155
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: so beautiful, beautiful, but she gets that all the time

1156
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: that even from within MOB sometimes she gets like like

1157
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: you're too white, like you're not indigenous enough to represent

1158
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: us like you And it's a complex.

1159
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: I think that's the best part about it though, to

1160
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: show that, yes, we don't represent one element, but we

1161
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: represent the other element. And the element that is is

1162
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: that you know, we were whitewashed and there were stolen generations,

1163
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: and this is now what's happened, even though that would happen,

1164
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: you know, throughout bloodlines anywhere. But I think that's just

1165
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: like another good element to be like, well, you know,

1166
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm very white, but I'm also still fast nations, and

1167
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: that's to represent those people that fit in that same box.

1168
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: Because sometimes it can be hard and it can be

1169
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, I know where I go to places and

1170
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: I think do they look at me and be like

1171
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: what while doing you can't be here? Yeah?

1172
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. There's so much an identity.

1173
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I think over the last like maybe

1174
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: ten years is when I really wanted to like connect

1175
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: and learn more and learn more about my family and

1176
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: MOB and be with Mob. And yeah, amazing.

1177
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: You have such a good head on your shoulders about

1178
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: it though, Like you seem so willing to explore those

1179
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: different parts of you, but without having like a breakdown

1180
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: about it every single time. I have a lot of

1181
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: breakschouts about my identity all the time. You seem just

1182
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: very balanced. Amazing.

1183
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: All right, so dessert, let's go through some quick fire questions.

1184
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: This one I'm only reading out because there's an emoji involved,

1185
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: and I was like, funny, what's something you wish you

1186
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: could tell the person you were the day they told

1187
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: you about the leg emoji?

1188
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: Wait?

1189
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: What she mean? What's something you wish you could tell

1190
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: the person you were the day they told you about

1191
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: the leak? But she just put the emoji of the leak.

1192
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: Shit, Yeah, that's such a deep question, I did say,

1193
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: but I love they dropped.

1194
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: An emoji and then to soften.

1195
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: It, like let's just saw the day that I found out. Yeah, whoa,

1196
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: Probably just it's going to be okay. And I know

1197
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: that sounds so so silly, but it comes down to

1198
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: the fear of the unknown. I also say something just

1199
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: as basic as it's going to be okay, because before

1200
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: I lost my leg, I felt like, you know, I

1201
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: had come out, I had lost weight because I was unhappy,

1202
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: and I found new confidence. All these things happened. And

1203
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: then when I got told that was happening, I was like,

1204
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: this is exactly where I'm meant to be. I felt

1205
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: like something was missing, and yeah, I feel like that

1206
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: that was it. Yea. And I know that sounds bizarre.

1207
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: I just feel like I fell right into my place

1208
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: and this is where I'm supposed to be. So probably

1209
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: just that.

1210
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 2: So we've gone through something deep to something super not deep.

1211
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: There's actually another level to the next question, but I'm

1212
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: going to start light first. Do you sleep with the

1213
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: leg on?

1214
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: No? Next question.

1215
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you could have answered.

1216
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: That question.

1217
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: Because it leads up to the other questions like is

1218
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: it sex? Yeah?

1219
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: Did someone asks that? I'm not telling you what was

1220
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: it you?

1221
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't mean. But I actually want to like

1222
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: as in what was it? As in do you take

1223
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: it off?

1224
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: What do I do during? Depends where you want to fox,

1225
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: stand up or not? Like one story short, but like

1226
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: what do you use your fee for? Have a little thing?

1227
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: Well, it depends what kind of sex we find only

1228
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: fans conversations on the show.

1229
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 3: So you know, my knee is there? My knees there?

1230
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: Now you're fine, Just give me a second, I'll chuck

1231
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: it back on.

1232
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so you usually start without it on?

1233
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on what.

1234
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: What you were doing when you started.

1235
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: If we're going for like I walked down in an

1236
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: alleyways on, I mean we're not no, Like if we're

1237
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: in the bed, there's no point for me to have

1238
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: it on the raft.

1239
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just what you were already doing. Yeah.

1240
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: If we move from the couch to the bedroom, yeah

1241
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: we and you're not. That's how if I kept saying

1242
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: and like.

1243
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: Ship are we doing this?

1244
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: He's like he's fine, I have one, don't.

1245
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: He's got a leg up on me. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Look,

1246
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: if we're like go from the couch, like I'm going

1247
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: to take it off on the couch.

1248
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, But if you're going we get to the bedroom.

1249
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is from me.

1250
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: Is there any support like government anything like that from

1251
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: when you kind of first found out, like, is there

1252
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: any like funds?

1253
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: So I have that's the ability. Like I'm really really

1254
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: like like right now, I have no idea what you

1255
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: just said, so m dis Basically what they do is

1256
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: they meet with you, you talk about your needs, what

1257
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: you need, and then you have like a processus and

1258
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: an out and all those sorts of assessments to put

1259
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: forward what your needs are. Then they come back and

1260
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 3: then they give you those funds based on deemed what's

1261
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: necessary for you. So example, running blade, they weren't going

1262
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: to fund because you had to keep going for assessments

1263
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: and really prove like that why I need one, Well

1264
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: not even that, just because the whole thing is what's

1265
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: reasonable and necessary and you have to prove why that's

1266
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: reasonable and necessary to you and how that's going to

1267
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: make you independent throughout in your life, you know, so

1268
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: and say teen thousand dollars. So that was a lot

1269
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: of going back and forth. But they also I did

1270
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: a little dodgy don't send ndis, but they accidentally issued

1271
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: the first plan that they gave me was wrong. Then

1272
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: they had to reissue that another plan. So when they

1273
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: reissued the other plan, I schill had ninety days to

1274
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: use the original funds from that first plan. They know now,

1275
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: I just didn't do the appropriate.

1276
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, cool question. So you did a Q and

1277
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: A the other day of your frequently Asked question fright, Yeah,

1278
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: do people ask you about the sex thing? Because I'm

1279
01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: really curious.

1280
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: About that, all right, So that was that was a

1281
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: rant that I went on from Grinder because oh it

1282
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: was an old and I recycled it because I wanted

1283
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: to have the conversation because sometimes people will just slide

1284
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: into my d MS or on Tinder or something anywhere

1285
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: and just like, how do you have sex? It's not appropriate?

1286
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: You're just like, no, hello.

1287
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: In this situation, sure, because I've opened up, yeah to that,

1288
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: Like imagine me just messaging you.

1289
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: No introduction, No we don't know each other, like yeah, yeah.

1290
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: It's not appropriate. And you're also intruding on someone's life,

1291
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: in someone's personal life, to gain something from it, whether

1292
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: it's a laugh, which it would definitely a laugh. I

1293
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: know the toxicity of grinder. Yeah, I'm not taking away that,

1294
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: but there's also I'm a person. Yeah, you don't just

1295
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: message me and be like, how do you have sex?

1296
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, that's.

1297
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: The valuing because you're also having a bit of a laugh. Yeah,

1298
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: and you think it's funny, Like it's not.

1299
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: But you also assume that you like have time to

1300
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: just sit and answer, Like if it is curiosity, it's like,

1301
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: could you ask me, like how I am I get curiosity?

1302
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: Don't? Yeh don't. I would be curious too, But it's

1303
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: just an appropriate question. If you were like a sexual

1304
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: partner to someone who has a disability and there's something

1305
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: that you need to know for you to have a

1306
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: better experience, Yeah, that's an appropriate question. But nine times

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Speaker 3: out of ten the person will or actually already tell you.

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Speaker 3: That's where it's appropriate, not just the first message. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's where I get like, not funny.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if there's a genuine reason, they'll probably

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Speaker 1: preface the message with James like I'm in this position.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, like they wouldn't be like.

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Speaker 3: I would help, and like you still need to talk

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Speaker 3: to them because there's a conversation I can have with you.

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Speaker 3: Their needs different to mine, if there are any needs, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe they're like fucking with it on like.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest thing that has surprised you about it?

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Speaker 1: About the whole experience, but that pre amputation you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Expect oh about like everyone there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that surprised you or that was like that you

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Speaker 1: would have been curious about, Like they wouldn't been one

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Speaker 1: of the questions you would have asked other than the

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Speaker 1: sex thing, because that definitely would have been your question.

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Speaker 1: I can tell.

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Speaker 3: I think the reababilitation, Yeah, that because that was the

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Speaker 3: first thing that I was so worried about, and even

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Speaker 3: returning to work, I was like shit, you know, I

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Speaker 3: went back to work three months after after I finished

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Speaker 3: all treatment, after I finished all treatment, and I was

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Speaker 3: fine full time. That they were like all my worries

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Speaker 3: because basically, for a whole year I had my life

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Speaker 3: put on pause. There's nothing I could do about it.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was how will I be independent afterwards?

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Speaker 3: And can I be independent afterwards? Because there's like that

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Speaker 3: whole notion that you can't be And even when I

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Speaker 3: got told and I told other people, people tell me

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Speaker 3: I can't do this and I can't do that, I

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Speaker 3: was like, well I'm gonna show you and I'll do

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Speaker 3: it ten times better.

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Speaker 1: And I'll just win a triathlon. Oh my gosh. Well

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Speaker 1: and talking about like visibility and showing people that they

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Speaker 1: can do things they never that other people would assume

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Speaker 1: they can't. I mean you've you've done that above and

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Speaker 1: beyond and continue to do so and it's so inspiring.

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Speaker 2: So where can we find you?

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Speaker 1: James other thing brinder.

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Speaker 3: And my instagram what is it? Underscore? I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: get you to like plug yourself. Sorry I wasn't thinking King.

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Speaker 3: My Instagram is Underscore. James par and my management is

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Speaker 3: Bell Management and my manager is Jason. So if you

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Speaker 3: have any business inquiries.

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Speaker 2: It's that across all platforms that use the name. So

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Speaker 2: TikTok as well.

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Speaker 3: TikTok is James par with three hours, so just James

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Speaker 3: Par only two, Yeah, only two. I have TikTok. Go

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Speaker 3: watch my viral video. You've seen that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go watch it right now. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you at home, please follow us

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: at feast pod give us a rating on all the

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Speaker 2: platforms that you listen to us from. Personally, I really

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Speaker 2: love Spotify to jump on there. This episode has been super,

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Speaker 2: super eye opening for us. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much James for joining us today, thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me. And yeah, and that's the end

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Speaker 2: of fucking entre, mains and dessert. Hopefully you're four and

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Speaker 2: we'll feed you again next time you