1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,385 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:22,065 Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. 5 00:00:22,265 --> 00:00:25,305 Speaker 2: I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel 6 00:00:25,305 --> 00:00:30,185 Speaker 2: guilty of body. Hello and welcome to Your Beauty, the 7 00:00:30,305 --> 00:00:33,105 Speaker 2: daily podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly 8 00:00:33,185 --> 00:00:36,145 Speaker 2: mccaren and it's Monday. As you know on Mondays. If 9 00:00:36,145 --> 00:00:39,625 Speaker 2: you're a regular, we answer two ubi questions, Kel how 10 00:00:39,705 --> 00:00:40,265 Speaker 2: have you boss? 11 00:00:40,465 --> 00:00:42,825 Speaker 1: Well, you can email us you beauty at MoMA mia 12 00:00:42,865 --> 00:00:44,865 Speaker 1: dot com dot are you damn us? On Insta asking 13 00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:48,385 Speaker 1: the Facebook group wherever you send it, We will probably 14 00:00:48,465 --> 00:00:50,865 Speaker 1: find it and hopefully include it in the episode. So 15 00:00:51,025 --> 00:00:51,705 Speaker 1: let's get into it. 16 00:00:52,985 --> 00:00:53,785 Speaker 2: I couldn't help, but. 17 00:00:53,825 --> 00:00:58,305 Speaker 1: Wonder ask me anything, you ask any questions? All right? 18 00:00:58,465 --> 00:01:02,625 Speaker 1: So Lee Hayley slid into our dms Lee and Kelly. 19 00:01:03,105 --> 00:01:06,265 Speaker 1: I keep seeing those blurry, soft focused lips all over 20 00:01:06,345 --> 00:01:10,305 Speaker 1: social media lately. Apparently we're ditching super precise slip liners 21 00:01:10,345 --> 00:01:12,785 Speaker 1: from a few years ago for something more diffused and 22 00:01:12,905 --> 00:01:16,105 Speaker 1: natural looking. I'm really intrigued, but I have no idea 23 00:01:16,145 --> 00:01:19,425 Speaker 1: where to start. Are there specific blurry lip liners I 24 00:01:19,425 --> 00:01:21,825 Speaker 1: should look for or can I create this effect with 25 00:01:21,905 --> 00:01:25,265 Speaker 1: products I already own? Both? 26 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:28,945 Speaker 2: The answer is both yes, Kelly, this is what I 27 00:01:29,065 --> 00:01:30,545 Speaker 2: know you're going to say, Jesse, is what you've got, 28 00:01:30,585 --> 00:01:32,265 Speaker 2: But you're a sucker for a new trend and a 29 00:01:32,345 --> 00:01:33,345 Speaker 2: new thing in a new. 30 00:01:33,665 --> 00:01:37,985 Speaker 1: I know, but I also love to use and find 31 00:01:38,105 --> 00:01:39,345 Speaker 1: things at home that I've already got. 32 00:01:39,465 --> 00:01:41,265 Speaker 2: True. I'm just opening some links to tell you the 33 00:01:41,345 --> 00:01:43,305 Speaker 2: name of products that I love for this. It's basically 34 00:01:43,345 --> 00:01:45,705 Speaker 2: a kbd J beauty trend, which is all when I 35 00:01:45,745 --> 00:01:47,825 Speaker 2: say trend, it's really big there. It's all about that 36 00:01:47,865 --> 00:01:53,705 Speaker 2: sort of blurred, diffused, kind of stained almost bitten into 37 00:01:53,785 --> 00:01:57,905 Speaker 2: a cherry cherr cherry stain, and they've just like stained 38 00:01:57,945 --> 00:02:01,025 Speaker 2: to the inside of your lips, yes, and then like 39 00:02:01,305 --> 00:02:03,985 Speaker 2: blurred a little bit outwards, and it's just like, oh, 40 00:02:04,545 --> 00:02:04,945 Speaker 2: I love it. 41 00:02:05,145 --> 00:02:07,865 Speaker 1: I love and bitter cherry. 42 00:02:08,545 --> 00:02:10,865 Speaker 2: It's kind of like not the it's the glasskinting for lips, 43 00:02:10,905 --> 00:02:13,505 Speaker 2: but you know how the kind of cave and it's 44 00:02:13,585 --> 00:02:17,185 Speaker 2: just sort of like floor glassy like diffuse, no real lines. 45 00:02:17,265 --> 00:02:20,665 Speaker 2: So the products I've tried Holocoholica, there was another product 46 00:02:20,665 --> 00:02:22,025 Speaker 2: from them I love. I can't remember what it was. 47 00:02:22,225 --> 00:02:26,145 Speaker 2: The format name is the Mellow Blurring lip pencil. There's 48 00:02:26,145 --> 00:02:28,385 Speaker 2: a bunch of shades. I got mine on Yes Style 49 00:02:28,545 --> 00:02:31,905 Speaker 2: for twelve dollars. I think really good. So if you've 50 00:02:31,905 --> 00:02:34,185 Speaker 2: got a W Cosmetics near you or jump online, you 51 00:02:34,265 --> 00:02:36,425 Speaker 2: can try all of these. Kel's then going to tell 52 00:02:36,425 --> 00:02:40,145 Speaker 2: you how to just diy yourself at home. Cleo. I've 53 00:02:40,145 --> 00:02:42,465 Speaker 2: always wondered if I'm pronouncing that right. Cee l Io. 54 00:02:42,705 --> 00:02:47,545 Speaker 2: Another Korean brand, Hug Lip Blur Tint Like. The names 55 00:02:47,585 --> 00:02:49,745 Speaker 2: are so delicious that also just gives you that kind 56 00:02:49,785 --> 00:02:53,105 Speaker 2: of you know, I wish I won one one more 57 00:02:53,105 --> 00:02:54,225 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about, But then I've got 58 00:02:54,265 --> 00:02:56,945 Speaker 2: to tell you about the best thing I've ever bought 59 00:02:57,105 --> 00:03:00,545 Speaker 2: from W Cosmetics to do this with the stuff you've 60 00:03:00,545 --> 00:03:06,665 Speaker 2: got at home. This is the fue Fweee. I wish 61 00:03:06,745 --> 00:03:09,505 Speaker 2: it was fwee lip and cheek blurry pudding pots. 62 00:03:09,705 --> 00:03:11,465 Speaker 1: I've got that at home. It's so pro so live. 63 00:03:11,585 --> 00:03:13,665 Speaker 2: James got me onto those who's been to bed Wednesdays 64 00:03:13,665 --> 00:03:17,065 Speaker 2: with Sarah Marie. It's kind of like it's like like 65 00:03:17,145 --> 00:03:20,305 Speaker 2: a moosy Oh so delicious. Yes, but that's the pot, 66 00:03:20,385 --> 00:03:21,785 Speaker 2: so you'd have to stick your finger in it, which 67 00:03:22,145 --> 00:03:22,945 Speaker 2: is fine, but. 68 00:03:23,145 --> 00:03:25,385 Speaker 1: Could go like you could kiss it. That's real bad 69 00:03:25,425 --> 00:03:26,025 Speaker 1: for the bacter of it. 70 00:03:26,105 --> 00:03:27,825 Speaker 2: You could go. Also, they're so little, you'd have to 71 00:03:27,865 --> 00:03:29,945 Speaker 2: be a magic get libs in there. 72 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:31,345 Speaker 1: You just get the center, wouldn't you. 73 00:03:31,785 --> 00:03:34,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, so weird. Okay, So what I bought is also 74 00:03:34,545 --> 00:03:42,385 Speaker 2: by FWII, and it is the FUII. It is the FUII. 75 00:03:42,785 --> 00:03:44,545 Speaker 1: You sound like my three run me too. 76 00:03:44,785 --> 00:03:48,545 Speaker 2: I mean that's what I thought, the Fui fingerlike lip brush. 77 00:03:48,625 --> 00:03:50,465 Speaker 2: Now I didn't bring it, because of course I didn't, 78 00:03:51,025 --> 00:03:53,065 Speaker 2: but we'll put it up on the screen for those 79 00:03:53,065 --> 00:03:55,225 Speaker 2: watching on YouTube because there's different versions. 80 00:03:55,265 --> 00:03:57,665 Speaker 1: But it's like a little oh you have brought this 81 00:03:57,825 --> 00:03:58,305 Speaker 1: in before? 82 00:03:58,585 --> 00:03:59,905 Speaker 2: Well that was I lost that one. So I've got 83 00:03:59,945 --> 00:04:00,425 Speaker 2: this new one. 84 00:04:00,465 --> 00:04:00,745 Speaker 1: Okay. 85 00:04:00,825 --> 00:04:04,825 Speaker 2: It's like a little tiny dome made of like silicon 86 00:04:04,905 --> 00:04:07,545 Speaker 2: or something. It was really bouncy. So what I've been 87 00:04:07,585 --> 00:04:09,865 Speaker 2: doing is using my regular old Charlotte to a your 88 00:04:10,305 --> 00:04:13,545 Speaker 2: Revolution lip liner. But then I use this fake finger, 89 00:04:14,425 --> 00:04:17,025 Speaker 2: a fake finger, and then you just kind of. 90 00:04:17,505 --> 00:04:20,105 Speaker 1: Lee loves to shop so much that instead of just 91 00:04:20,265 --> 00:04:23,345 Speaker 1: using her finger, she buys a fake finger. 92 00:04:23,425 --> 00:04:26,225 Speaker 2: Okay, firstly, if you are maintaining this lookout. You're in 93 00:04:26,265 --> 00:04:27,745 Speaker 2: the back of a taxi. You're, you know, wearing a 94 00:04:27,745 --> 00:04:29,305 Speaker 2: beautiful ball gown. I don't know why, and you're in 95 00:04:29,305 --> 00:04:31,305 Speaker 2: the bathroom and you want to redo your lip, but 96 00:04:31,385 --> 00:04:33,305 Speaker 2: then blur it out. Then you don't have color and 97 00:04:33,345 --> 00:04:35,265 Speaker 2: your finger that could transfer to your beautiful. 98 00:04:34,945 --> 00:04:36,425 Speaker 1: Light wash my hands. 99 00:04:36,665 --> 00:04:39,865 Speaker 2: You're in the back of a taxi. Wipes, so I 100 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:42,385 Speaker 2: don't have wipe something on my way to my wedding. Okay, sorry, 101 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:45,825 Speaker 2: Also it just the texture is beautiful and so also 102 00:04:45,865 --> 00:04:47,065 Speaker 2: you can put like a bit of lipstick in the 103 00:04:47,105 --> 00:04:50,585 Speaker 2: middle of your lip and then she would it out. Okay, 104 00:04:50,865 --> 00:04:51,265 Speaker 2: take over. 105 00:04:51,745 --> 00:04:53,345 Speaker 1: No, they were all really good to just I. 106 00:04:53,385 --> 00:04:55,985 Speaker 2: Mean it ten dollars. Everyone needs a free finger. 107 00:04:56,265 --> 00:05:01,385 Speaker 1: Free finger. All of like everything that's marketed as blurring 108 00:05:01,905 --> 00:05:04,825 Speaker 1: and this sort of lip product, it's just a lip product. 109 00:05:04,905 --> 00:05:07,305 Speaker 1: So just whatever you like, like, go shop if you 110 00:05:07,385 --> 00:05:09,185 Speaker 1: love shopping and you want a new lip product. But 111 00:05:09,865 --> 00:05:11,585 Speaker 1: they'll just do the same thing. It's about how you 112 00:05:11,665 --> 00:05:12,305 Speaker 1: apply it for. 113 00:05:12,745 --> 00:05:15,345 Speaker 2: A blurred like I don't think you could use the 114 00:05:15,785 --> 00:05:18,665 Speaker 2: like those products I mentioned earlier to get a really 115 00:05:18,705 --> 00:05:21,505 Speaker 2: precise punchy lip. No, you could use your punchy lip 116 00:05:21,585 --> 00:05:24,065 Speaker 2: to get a blurred exactly backwards, which is why I. 117 00:05:24,065 --> 00:05:26,025 Speaker 1: Would if you could only buy one product, I would 118 00:05:26,265 --> 00:05:29,065 Speaker 1: rather just buy an average lip product. 119 00:05:28,825 --> 00:05:29,545 Speaker 2: Not a free finger. 120 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:33,105 Speaker 1: Not a free finger, so I would just stop sharpening 121 00:05:33,145 --> 00:05:35,425 Speaker 1: my pencils, Like if you've got a lip liner that 122 00:05:35,625 --> 00:05:40,705 Speaker 1: isn't yeah, so you could just not sharpen it, and 123 00:05:40,745 --> 00:05:43,265 Speaker 1: then you're always going to just have that sort of 124 00:05:43,345 --> 00:05:46,385 Speaker 1: diffused look that you would get with a FUII finger 125 00:05:46,865 --> 00:05:49,225 Speaker 1: because it's not precise and you're sort of just like 126 00:05:49,505 --> 00:05:51,705 Speaker 1: lining it like it's a crayon, and then you can 127 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:53,945 Speaker 1: just fill in your entire lip, or just what you 128 00:05:54,025 --> 00:05:57,345 Speaker 1: could use is your actual finger with just any old 129 00:05:57,465 --> 00:06:01,785 Speaker 1: matte lips product or velvet velvety, just to sort of 130 00:06:01,905 --> 00:06:06,185 Speaker 1: like blend it into your lips. Just too precise and 131 00:06:06,345 --> 00:06:10,865 Speaker 1: not too rich and don't texture product exactly, and it's 132 00:06:10,985 --> 00:06:14,265 Speaker 1: just going to give you that sort of blurred stained look. 133 00:06:14,425 --> 00:06:17,145 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. I'm into it. I think it's flattering. 134 00:06:17,225 --> 00:06:22,665 Speaker 2: I think it's not too high maintenance like you, Kelly. Okay, 135 00:06:22,825 --> 00:06:25,265 Speaker 2: So coming up after the break, a question from a 136 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:28,865 Speaker 2: UBI who wants to know how on earth she's supposed 137 00:06:28,905 --> 00:06:29,705 Speaker 2: to know how. 138 00:06:29,705 --> 00:06:32,545 Speaker 1: Thin her products are I love this question so much. 139 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:41,345 Speaker 1: It's diet culture for products basically. Okay, I'm going to 140 00:06:41,425 --> 00:06:42,945 Speaker 1: read this question up first, and then I'm going to 141 00:06:42,985 --> 00:06:44,145 Speaker 1: tell you why I love it so much. 142 00:06:44,265 --> 00:06:45,745 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why I don't. Well, I 143 00:06:45,785 --> 00:06:48,345 Speaker 2: think it's a silly theory. No the question though, I 144 00:06:48,385 --> 00:06:49,945 Speaker 2: think it's no question. I do, but I think the 145 00:06:50,025 --> 00:06:50,545 Speaker 2: theory is silly. 146 00:06:51,065 --> 00:06:53,505 Speaker 1: Hi, I have a question for Lee and Kelly about 147 00:06:53,585 --> 00:06:56,505 Speaker 1: layering serums. This is from Lauren. I know the rule 148 00:06:56,625 --> 00:06:58,905 Speaker 1: is layering from thinnest to thickest, but sometimes I can't 149 00:06:58,905 --> 00:07:01,625 Speaker 1: tell which is thicker? Am I crazy? For example, how 150 00:07:01,625 --> 00:07:04,865 Speaker 1: would I layer the Notarium advanced multi peptide serum and 151 00:07:04,905 --> 00:07:08,145 Speaker 1: the Laroche pise B five hyaluronic serum. When I try 152 00:07:08,185 --> 00:07:10,145 Speaker 1: to figure out which is thinner, I just can't. I've 153 00:07:10,185 --> 00:07:12,585 Speaker 1: been listening to a podcast for years. Thank you for 154 00:07:12,705 --> 00:07:14,585 Speaker 1: all of your great content. 155 00:07:14,745 --> 00:07:16,065 Speaker 2: Would you like me to go first? Or would you 156 00:07:16,185 --> 00:07:16,745 Speaker 2: like to go first? No? 157 00:07:16,865 --> 00:07:18,905 Speaker 1: You tell me so you don't like the theory about 158 00:07:18,945 --> 00:07:19,625 Speaker 1: thinness to figure it? 159 00:07:19,745 --> 00:07:23,865 Speaker 2: I stink there's just such a huge caveat because someone 160 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:27,585 Speaker 2: could go and get seven serums and then try and 161 00:07:27,665 --> 00:07:30,225 Speaker 2: work it out. She doesn't really need both of these. 162 00:07:31,225 --> 00:07:33,385 Speaker 1: If you're going to layer that, it might be skin flooding. 163 00:07:33,665 --> 00:07:35,385 Speaker 2: I understand that. But if you're going to layer the 164 00:07:35,505 --> 00:07:39,185 Speaker 2: neturium advance multipeptide serum and then the Lrooshia, say B 165 00:07:39,345 --> 00:07:43,425 Speaker 2: five holonic, I would do neturium advance multipeptide. Then I 166 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:48,105 Speaker 2: would do the holonic generally, because you know the jury's out, 167 00:07:48,185 --> 00:07:51,745 Speaker 2: but hylonic layer over something moist helps suck in them. 168 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:52,785 Speaker 1: Suck in that peronic. 169 00:07:53,185 --> 00:07:55,945 Speaker 2: However, it won't be a massive disaster if you do 170 00:07:55,985 --> 00:07:58,705 Speaker 2: it the other way around. But this doesn't always apply 171 00:07:58,825 --> 00:08:01,785 Speaker 2: because it depends on what's in the ingredients of these products. 172 00:08:01,865 --> 00:08:04,865 Speaker 2: Because you do not want to be layering a vitamin 173 00:08:05,025 --> 00:08:07,065 Speaker 2: A and a vitamin C, or maybe you do, but 174 00:08:07,225 --> 00:08:12,065 Speaker 2: it depends on when and also your in resilience. There's 175 00:08:12,145 --> 00:08:15,945 Speaker 2: some ingredients that really don't play well together. So even 176 00:08:15,985 --> 00:08:17,545 Speaker 2: if you've got a thin and then a thicker and 177 00:08:17,585 --> 00:08:20,305 Speaker 2: you work it out, they should probably not be layered 178 00:08:20,505 --> 00:08:23,345 Speaker 2: in the same day, well morning or night. So I 179 00:08:23,385 --> 00:08:27,145 Speaker 2: think it's less about the consistency and more about the 180 00:08:27,305 --> 00:08:29,585 Speaker 2: routine as a whole, and what boxes are you ticking 181 00:08:29,625 --> 00:08:33,185 Speaker 2: Antioxidants or vitamin A or chemical exfoliance. 182 00:08:33,465 --> 00:08:35,705 Speaker 1: But let's just say that she knows not to use 183 00:08:35,745 --> 00:08:38,065 Speaker 1: like a retino with a vitamin C. Yeah, but because 184 00:08:38,065 --> 00:08:40,825 Speaker 1: she's been listening, but which you can, but then there's caveats. Yeah, 185 00:08:40,905 --> 00:08:44,065 Speaker 1: so well I wouldn't use both of those, would you. Yeah? 186 00:08:44,385 --> 00:08:46,665 Speaker 1: If I was like my skin it is winter in 187 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:49,985 Speaker 1: Australia and sinding it so cold, My skin is so dry, 188 00:08:50,145 --> 00:08:53,745 Speaker 1: so like my steps, okay, when I'm doing my skin 189 00:08:53,825 --> 00:08:55,625 Speaker 1: care properly a hectic it. 190 00:08:55,705 --> 00:08:58,705 Speaker 2: Also, I think depends on, like you say, you're looking 191 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,585 Speaker 2: at your individual products. So I've got some products that 192 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,545 Speaker 2: say they're in essence. One feels like water and another 193 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:03,985 Speaker 2: one almost feels like a moisturizer. 194 00:09:04,105 --> 00:09:07,385 Speaker 1: Yeah, so use common sense then. But if there's two 195 00:09:07,425 --> 00:09:10,985 Speaker 1: products that you really asked struggling to tell apart, like 196 00:09:11,105 --> 00:09:14,065 Speaker 1: what is the thinnest, I just wouldn't overthink it too much. 197 00:09:14,585 --> 00:09:17,265 Speaker 2: True, like they're both lovely products. You can do it 198 00:09:17,545 --> 00:09:20,065 Speaker 2: more probably better practice as a peptide on first before 199 00:09:20,425 --> 00:09:21,945 Speaker 2: purely hydrate, and it's not going to make that much 200 00:09:21,945 --> 00:09:23,745 Speaker 2: of a difference, So just don't overthink it. 201 00:09:23,825 --> 00:09:27,665 Speaker 1: It's when something's like obviously thicker that then that's what 202 00:09:27,865 --> 00:09:29,825 Speaker 1: you just use a common sense and say, okay. 203 00:09:29,665 --> 00:09:32,545 Speaker 2: Well yes, and I guess the oil content because oil 204 00:09:32,625 --> 00:09:35,025 Speaker 2: is more of a barrier. So yeah, remember you're my 205 00:09:35,145 --> 00:09:38,785 Speaker 2: little analogy with the water, and it didn't quite worked 206 00:09:38,825 --> 00:09:42,265 Speaker 2: at home when I was practicing alas. Also, I just think, 207 00:09:42,425 --> 00:09:44,705 Speaker 2: listen to your skin, like Kelly was saying, she's really dry. 208 00:09:44,865 --> 00:09:46,665 Speaker 2: I've got some products that are questable which way you 209 00:09:46,665 --> 00:09:48,585 Speaker 2: could lay them in that there's no right or wrong, 210 00:09:48,705 --> 00:09:50,625 Speaker 2: so you're not doing it wrong. You can do whichever 211 00:09:50,625 --> 00:09:50,905 Speaker 2: you want. 212 00:09:50,945 --> 00:09:53,865 Speaker 1: But sometimes so it's skincare guys, Like at the end 213 00:09:53,865 --> 00:09:54,865 Speaker 1: of the day, if you want to put it on 214 00:09:54,865 --> 00:09:56,985 Speaker 1: a moistus first go for gold. You just might be 215 00:09:57,065 --> 00:09:59,945 Speaker 1: wasting your money in terms of something not penetrating into 216 00:09:59,945 --> 00:10:02,745 Speaker 1: your and always sunscreen very very last be for makeup, 217 00:10:02,785 --> 00:10:05,705 Speaker 1: but I kind of work. I'll try both and see 218 00:10:05,705 --> 00:10:07,825 Speaker 1: which finish are like better. Particular form wearing makeup on 219 00:10:07,945 --> 00:10:10,345 Speaker 1: top because one might be a bit tacky, so then 220 00:10:10,385 --> 00:10:12,225 Speaker 1: the thing up on top, we'll kind of take that 221 00:10:12,265 --> 00:10:14,425 Speaker 1: tackiness the way, maybe a white tackiness because it can 222 00:10:14,505 --> 00:10:17,105 Speaker 1: kind of act like a prim glimmer. Yeah, so just 223 00:10:17,145 --> 00:10:20,265 Speaker 1: have a play, but just definitely line up your whatever 224 00:10:20,505 --> 00:10:23,625 Speaker 1: morning or night as a routine, and check out the ingredients. 225 00:10:23,665 --> 00:10:26,105 Speaker 1: You don't want lots of actives, too many exolence, But 226 00:10:26,225 --> 00:10:26,745 Speaker 1: if it's. 227 00:10:26,705 --> 00:10:30,505 Speaker 2: Just hydration peptides, go for gold flood that skin cysts. 228 00:10:30,585 --> 00:10:32,025 Speaker 2: There are a couple of things you do need to 229 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:34,105 Speaker 2: be careful of, and of course there's caveats with that 230 00:10:34,265 --> 00:10:38,025 Speaker 2: because it depends on the percentage in the ingredients. 231 00:10:37,665 --> 00:10:40,025 Speaker 1: Because sometimes you know it'll be don't use this in this, 232 00:10:40,305 --> 00:10:43,705 Speaker 1: and then a brand will be like sake, we've formulated 233 00:10:43,745 --> 00:10:45,665 Speaker 1: it with both, which and it actually is fine. 234 00:10:45,705 --> 00:10:48,145 Speaker 2: Everyone said you can't combine a nice cinemame with vitamin C. 235 00:10:48,385 --> 00:10:49,985 Speaker 2: Then brands came out with them combined. 236 00:10:50,065 --> 00:10:52,345 Speaker 1: You can't use retinol in the morning. Then Elizabeth Arden 237 00:10:52,425 --> 00:10:54,585 Speaker 1: were like, yes, here's the HPR crime. 238 00:10:54,865 --> 00:10:58,265 Speaker 2: Yes, and it depends on you know, the stability the percentage. 239 00:10:59,105 --> 00:11:01,105 Speaker 2: But I think it's like, think of it like you're 240 00:11:01,305 --> 00:11:05,585 Speaker 2: cooking a massive cake morning or night whatever. You don't 241 00:11:05,625 --> 00:11:07,305 Speaker 2: want to have egg in that one, then a little 242 00:11:07,305 --> 00:11:08,785 Speaker 2: bit of egg in that one, and then some egg 243 00:11:08,825 --> 00:11:10,945 Speaker 2: in that. You need to look at your routine as 244 00:11:10,985 --> 00:11:14,465 Speaker 2: a whole, regardless of consistency, because you don't want to have, 245 00:11:14,945 --> 00:11:18,745 Speaker 2: you know, vitamin C in every step or exfoliance in 246 00:11:18,785 --> 00:11:21,785 Speaker 2: every step. So it's less about consistency, be product and 247 00:11:21,905 --> 00:11:23,905 Speaker 2: what ingredients are in there in a hole what they're 248 00:11:23,945 --> 00:11:24,865 Speaker 2: asking your skin to do. 249 00:11:25,225 --> 00:11:29,185 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, good one. Okay, Now after the break, I'm 250 00:11:29,265 --> 00:11:31,985 Speaker 1: quite upset about what Lee is going to suggest putting 251 00:11:32,185 --> 00:11:35,865 Speaker 1: under foundation my host tax Hunters for you, Kelly, I know, 252 00:11:36,465 --> 00:11:38,545 Speaker 1: but I'm your audience at the moment. 253 00:11:45,025 --> 00:11:45,785 Speaker 2: What a pack? 254 00:11:47,025 --> 00:11:48,385 Speaker 1: You makeup packs? 255 00:11:49,465 --> 00:11:52,065 Speaker 2: All right? Will you go first? Muty pants? What's your fabulous? 256 00:11:52,225 --> 00:11:57,345 Speaker 2: Factually finance really not that exciting. So if you like 257 00:11:57,465 --> 00:12:00,345 Speaker 2: to tan in the winter or excuse me, we don't 258 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:03,465 Speaker 2: ten any time? Fake Okay when I say ten, I 259 00:12:03,585 --> 00:12:07,745 Speaker 2: obviously mean a fake ten. But say, like, I personally 260 00:12:08,425 --> 00:12:10,305 Speaker 2: would never wear a. 261 00:12:10,585 --> 00:12:14,665 Speaker 1: Short skirt without stockings or some sort of fake tan 262 00:12:14,745 --> 00:12:17,145 Speaker 1: on my legs because I've got like there's just a 263 00:12:17,225 --> 00:12:20,305 Speaker 1: lot of discoloration of veins and it just makes you 264 00:12:20,385 --> 00:12:22,305 Speaker 1: feel good. It's just not pretty down there. 265 00:12:22,345 --> 00:12:24,505 Speaker 2: And so the t for anyone else, it's for you, No, no, no, 266 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:25,505 Speaker 2: it's literally just for me. 267 00:12:25,865 --> 00:12:29,105 Speaker 1: The tan just kind of like evens out my skin tone, right, 268 00:12:29,385 --> 00:12:32,025 Speaker 1: like whether that be your arms or whatever part of 269 00:12:32,065 --> 00:12:34,745 Speaker 1: your body that you prefer to have a little bit 270 00:12:34,785 --> 00:12:36,865 Speaker 1: of a glow, even in the middle of winter. I 271 00:12:36,905 --> 00:12:41,065 Speaker 1: didn't even my arms, But who can be bothered fake 272 00:12:41,105 --> 00:12:43,945 Speaker 1: tanning in winter? I don't even like it's so cold. 273 00:12:44,465 --> 00:12:47,145 Speaker 2: The other day I wore a long skirt, but I knew, 274 00:12:47,265 --> 00:12:48,465 Speaker 2: like when I walked to you might be have a 275 00:12:48,505 --> 00:12:51,305 Speaker 2: seat ankle, so I just gradual tan to that exactly. 276 00:12:51,385 --> 00:12:53,745 Speaker 1: Tip exactly. Oh yeah, so it's not really a tip. 277 00:12:53,785 --> 00:12:55,505 Speaker 1: It's just to remind it you do not have to 278 00:12:55,625 --> 00:12:59,025 Speaker 1: tan your entire body. Think about your outfit. All you 279 00:12:59,145 --> 00:13:01,945 Speaker 1: need to do is not even ten just a little 280 00:13:01,945 --> 00:13:04,585 Speaker 1: bit bit of instant. You don't even have to actually 281 00:13:04,665 --> 00:13:06,825 Speaker 1: put a ten on. If you've got a shade of 282 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:09,505 Speaker 1: foundation that's a little bit darker from summer, a pump 283 00:13:09,825 --> 00:13:13,065 Speaker 1: that in with some Sally hands and or just anything 284 00:13:13,105 --> 00:13:15,225 Speaker 1: you've got home, and then a little bit of moisturizer. Yeah, 285 00:13:15,425 --> 00:13:17,705 Speaker 1: shmear it on the body part that's exposed, even if 286 00:13:17,745 --> 00:13:19,545 Speaker 1: it is just one ankle. Yeah, you know, I said, 287 00:13:19,585 --> 00:13:20,945 Speaker 1: things have a split sea of one legs. 288 00:13:21,225 --> 00:13:22,305 Speaker 2: God my life is that? 289 00:13:22,705 --> 00:13:24,625 Speaker 1: Or like if you're wearing long boots, so I might 290 00:13:24,705 --> 00:13:28,065 Speaker 1: then just do like that much of my thigh me too, 291 00:13:28,425 --> 00:13:30,625 Speaker 1: so oh, I'll never do it. And then it was 292 00:13:30,745 --> 00:13:32,625 Speaker 1: just straight off. When you have a shower, you sometimes 293 00:13:32,745 --> 00:13:34,105 Speaker 1: need to give it a bit, like use a washer 294 00:13:34,265 --> 00:13:34,705 Speaker 1: or something. 295 00:13:34,865 --> 00:13:36,585 Speaker 2: Depends on what you're using. And for me fight because 296 00:13:36,585 --> 00:13:38,105 Speaker 2: I like a lot of creams and white so and 297 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:39,905 Speaker 2: I'll do it. I mean I haven't done today. Look 298 00:13:39,945 --> 00:13:42,105 Speaker 2: at that sun damage. But I'll often just do this 299 00:13:42,185 --> 00:13:43,785 Speaker 2: area with a bit of coverage, and then I just 300 00:13:43,945 --> 00:13:46,065 Speaker 2: use a setting like a translucent powder to set it 301 00:13:46,105 --> 00:13:48,425 Speaker 2: before I put my cream or white top on. Exactly 302 00:13:49,345 --> 00:13:50,785 Speaker 2: all right, go on, what do you want me to 303 00:13:50,825 --> 00:13:53,905 Speaker 2: do with powder? Kelly doesn't like my host ac Let 304 00:13:53,985 --> 00:13:54,785 Speaker 2: me explain something. 305 00:13:54,785 --> 00:13:57,305 Speaker 1: I have seen it on TikTok before, and some people 306 00:13:57,425 --> 00:13:58,425 Speaker 1: that oily swear by it. 307 00:13:58,785 --> 00:14:00,585 Speaker 2: Okay, I discovered it by accient. It's got nothing to 308 00:14:00,625 --> 00:14:03,545 Speaker 2: do with TikTok. The other day I put on a 309 00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:08,745 Speaker 2: foundation and then I put on setting powder like translucent whatever. 310 00:14:09,145 --> 00:14:12,225 Speaker 2: I can't Oh, I was trying a new sunscreen that 311 00:14:12,345 --> 00:14:14,065 Speaker 2: was way too jewy for me. So even though my 312 00:14:14,625 --> 00:14:18,465 Speaker 2: foundation is normally wonderful, my setting, like everything normally would 313 00:14:18,465 --> 00:14:20,705 Speaker 2: work in that equation, but the sunscreen was new and 314 00:14:20,745 --> 00:14:23,105 Speaker 2: made everything too dewey. Went about my day for a 315 00:14:23,145 --> 00:14:25,225 Speaker 2: few hours and it had to go touch up, and 316 00:14:25,345 --> 00:14:27,265 Speaker 2: I'd had to like I was doing some filming, and 317 00:14:27,305 --> 00:14:32,145 Speaker 2: I'd had to like occasionally translucent throughout the day just 318 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:34,665 Speaker 2: because it was like shine city, I could have like 319 00:14:35,185 --> 00:14:38,025 Speaker 2: pried chips on my face. So then anyway, I was like, 320 00:14:38,025 --> 00:14:39,265 Speaker 2: oh God, I've got to go somewhere do something. What 321 00:14:39,305 --> 00:14:40,585 Speaker 2: am I going to do all this face? And then 322 00:14:40,585 --> 00:14:42,585 Speaker 2: I put a bit more foundation in the areas that 323 00:14:42,665 --> 00:14:44,505 Speaker 2: needed it. But because I'd had a couple of layers 324 00:14:44,505 --> 00:14:47,345 Speaker 2: of setting powder, it then turned like it just turned 325 00:14:47,385 --> 00:14:50,225 Speaker 2: into this filtered, fabulous tes So is that the theory 326 00:14:50,265 --> 00:14:51,385 Speaker 2: because I did I haven't seen this. 327 00:14:51,545 --> 00:14:52,945 Speaker 1: Yeah, some makeup artists do it. 328 00:14:53,145 --> 00:14:56,105 Speaker 2: So would put a setting power like a translucent powder, 329 00:14:56,305 --> 00:15:00,265 Speaker 2: then foundation yea, and it makes a dewey foundation, velvety. 330 00:15:00,305 --> 00:15:02,945 Speaker 1: Yes, and it just makes your skin look really blurred, 331 00:15:03,425 --> 00:15:04,785 Speaker 1: lawless and almost like filter it. 332 00:15:05,265 --> 00:15:09,225 Speaker 2: I thought I invented this by accident, but it is only. 333 00:15:09,745 --> 00:15:14,745 Speaker 1: For people like if I did that, my face would 334 00:15:14,825 --> 00:15:17,785 Speaker 1: simply just crossed and stuff flaking off hair. 335 00:15:17,825 --> 00:15:20,305 Speaker 2: You probably never have this problem, but combo girls will 336 00:15:20,385 --> 00:15:23,345 Speaker 2: find because you know you're combining serums with moisturizes, with 337 00:15:23,505 --> 00:15:27,745 Speaker 2: sunscreens and then your coverage or whatever. That oftentimes one 338 00:15:27,785 --> 00:15:29,705 Speaker 2: step too far and you go from dewey and glowey 339 00:15:29,825 --> 00:15:32,105 Speaker 2: to greasy. So this is a great way to go back, 340 00:15:32,785 --> 00:15:35,305 Speaker 2: but then without having to be really matt and powdery. Yes, 341 00:15:35,585 --> 00:15:38,185 Speaker 2: it was so good my face. I went, oh, I 342 00:15:38,345 --> 00:15:41,305 Speaker 2: was not feeling great after a night out anyway, and 343 00:15:41,385 --> 00:15:43,705 Speaker 2: went to kids party and literally three people said, oh 344 00:15:43,825 --> 00:15:45,385 Speaker 2: my god, what are you using on your skin? And 345 00:15:45,425 --> 00:15:46,905 Speaker 2: I was like, I accidentally use the wrong thing, and 346 00:15:46,905 --> 00:15:50,905 Speaker 2: I U use and they also, your skin looks phenomenal. Yep, 347 00:15:51,265 --> 00:15:52,225 Speaker 2: so that's my trick. 348 00:15:52,345 --> 00:15:54,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was dissing it, but it's really good for 349 00:15:54,985 --> 00:15:55,465 Speaker 1: the oily. 350 00:15:56,625 --> 00:15:59,505 Speaker 2: If you've just gone to dewey, do it. 351 00:15:59,985 --> 00:16:01,625 Speaker 1: I think it goes to show. It's such a good 352 00:16:01,665 --> 00:16:06,385 Speaker 1: example of actually no rules. You can literally do whatever 353 00:16:06,505 --> 00:16:08,065 Speaker 1: you want makeup. 354 00:16:08,065 --> 00:16:09,625 Speaker 2: I would never be bothered to put on my make 355 00:16:09,825 --> 00:16:11,705 Speaker 2: then do powder, then do more makeup. But it kind 356 00:16:11,745 --> 00:16:14,785 Speaker 2: of brought my face back better than ever by a mistake. 357 00:16:14,905 --> 00:16:17,305 Speaker 1: But some on they're actually doing it first. 358 00:16:17,985 --> 00:16:21,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in care my sunscreened, then my powder, then 359 00:16:21,385 --> 00:16:21,825 Speaker 2: my foundation. 360 00:16:21,905 --> 00:16:22,225 Speaker 1: Exactly. 361 00:16:22,345 --> 00:16:24,705 Speaker 2: I shall try that and report back. Please do thank 362 00:16:24,785 --> 00:16:27,225 Speaker 2: you for listening to You Beauty. We love having you here. 363 00:16:27,265 --> 00:16:30,625 Speaker 2: We hope that you enjoyed today's madness. Now our Instagram 364 00:16:30,665 --> 00:16:32,745 Speaker 2: account is at New Bauty podcast. You can send us 365 00:16:32,745 --> 00:16:35,265 Speaker 2: a DM. 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