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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy
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Speaker 1: of seizing your yay. I'm Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah,
Speaker 1: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels
Speaker 1: to co found matcha maiden and matcha milk Bar. Cca
Speaker 1: is a series of conversations on finding a life you
Speaker 1: love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment
Speaker 1: along the way. Lovely Yighborhood. What a whirlwind few weeks
Speaker 1: it's been. I can't believe it's already April, and I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys, but I'm counting down until
Speaker 1: the Easter break to catch up with myself again. It's
Speaker 1: been so delightful to work with real life people in
Speaker 1: the flesh and travel around again. Of course, I've gotten
Speaker 1: over excited as usual, and episodes have been dropping all
Speaker 1: over the shop between Survivor Yea's of Our Lives and
Speaker 1: the regular schedule, but I hope it's been keeping things
Speaker 1: fresh for you and keeping you on your toes. I
Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited to be back to our regular
Speaker 1: programming this week with a guest with whom many of
Speaker 1: us have fallen in love from Afar. I didn't intend
Speaker 1: it this way, but it's funny how things work out.
Speaker 1: We recorded this day after his birthday and a few
Speaker 1: days before mine, plus we're releasing it now during World
Speaker 1: Autism Awareness Month, kicking off with United Nations sanctioned World
Speaker 1: Autism Awareness Dage just days ago on April second. YEP,
Speaker 1: I am so thrilled to have Love on the Spectrum
Speaker 1: star Michael Theo joining us this week. You might remember
Speaker 1: Ange and I recommended this brilliant show in the Years
Speaker 1: of Our Lives episode. It is such a wholesome and
Speaker 1: uplifting docu series following seven young neurodiverse adults on the
Speaker 1: Autism Spectrum as they explore the wild.
Speaker 3: World of dating.
Speaker 1: Michael in particular, captured hearts all over the world with
Speaker 1: his passion for finding his person and constant singers, making
Speaker 1: his way even onto The Ellen Show and drawing guests
Speaker 1: on his own podcast, Mister A Plus like stars from
Speaker 1: his favorite TV show and Mine Brooklyn nine nine. Having
Speaker 1: only been told about his autism diagnosis at thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: Michael sees his neurodiversity as a gift, not a burden,
Speaker 1: and in listening today, I hope you see why. Michael Theo,
Speaker 1: or should I say, Mister A Plus, Welcome to CEZA.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: It is such an honor and a privilege. I'm really
Speaker 1: trying hard not to fan girl you right now, but
Speaker 1: most importantly before we begin, Happy birthday for yesterday.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's my birthday on Thursday. I think all great people
Speaker 1: are born in late March. And Ellen got you a
Speaker 1: Paul Smith suit. I can't do.
Speaker 3: That for you today, she did.
Speaker 1: Yes How did you celebrate celebrate what your birthday?
Speaker 2: We didn't really celebrate yet yet.
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Do you have anything planned?
Speaker 2: Not really, But to be honest, my idea of celebrating
Speaker 2: my birthday is just having a quiet, low key dinner
Speaker 2: with a woman one on one.
Speaker 4: I love this.
Speaker 1: I actually have got I'm married, but if I were
Speaker 1: ever to be single again, I have gained a lot
Speaker 1: of dating tips and knowledge from listening to your podcast.
Speaker 1: You've had some incredibly useful advice that you were sharing
Speaker 1: on the show. So so before we get into your story,
Speaker 1: which I call your way ta or your path Ya,
Speaker 1: I ask a little icebreaker at the start of every show.
Speaker 1: And you've become such a beloved TV star with your
Speaker 1: own amazing show called Mister a Plus with guests like
Speaker 1: Stephanie Beatrice from Brooklyn nine nine. So, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: I'm fangirling you right now. You've become a global celebrity.
Speaker 1: But you said in one of your interviews about wanting
Speaker 1: to know how people are or who they are off
Speaker 1: screen as well as who they are on screen.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I thought i'd ask, what.
Speaker 1: Is the most down to earth thing about you, the
Speaker 1: most normal thing that we wouldn't necessarily assume because you're
Speaker 1: such a celebrity. But what's something that is just really
Speaker 1: relatable about you?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you some things about me. I absolutely
Speaker 2: hate loud noises. Really yep.
Speaker 1: What do you love other than Brooklyn nine nine obviously, Well.
Speaker 2: There's several other shows I love. There's news Radio, Thomas
Speaker 2: the Tank Engine.
Speaker 1: Of course, I heard about Thomas the Tank Engine. Also
Speaker 1: loved Thomas the Tank.
Speaker 2: Also Modern Family and The Good Place, and The Big Bang.
Speaker 3: Theory Big Bang.
Speaker 1: I also heard you have an idetic memory, so you're
Speaker 1: basically Sheldon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 3: That that's incredible.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm actually I have a photographic memory
Speaker 2: with things that I'm passionate about, not about everything.
Speaker 1: Your recall of episodes of Brooklyn nine nine and the
Speaker 1: script is absolutely incredible. I've heard you do several impressions
Speaker 1: of several characters. Who's your favorite character?
Speaker 2: Probably Captain Holt and Kevin.
Speaker 3: Right and Cheddar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody loves that dog. He's a great dog.
Speaker 3: He's a great dog.
Speaker 2: Oh. And also there's a few things about Amy.
Speaker 3: Ooh, is Amy your ideal girl? Do you think that
Speaker 3: you date Amy?
Speaker 2: Not exactly. She reminds me too much of a high
Speaker 2: school student.
Speaker 1: Yes, very highly strung and lots of facial expressions. I
Speaker 1: think you and Stephanie were talking about her facial expressions.
Speaker 2: Yep. And my mother has a very expressive face as well.
Speaker 1: You said, actually you said in that episode that she
Speaker 1: reminds you of your mother.
Speaker 2: And they also both have olive skin and Latin jeans
Speaker 2: because Melissa Fameiro has a Cuban background while my mother
Speaker 2: is half Italian.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 1: I love your mum. She was so great on the show.
Speaker 1: Does she have lots of fans as well?
Speaker 2: Yes, because literally everyboy loves my mother.
Speaker 1: Ah, she's become I should get her on the podcast.
Speaker 1: She sounds like the famous one, I suppose, but she
Speaker 1: has obviously raised a beautiful human in you, mister A plus.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that happens often
Speaker 1: when we meet someone through a TV show or through
Speaker 1: a podcast is we often meet them at a chapter
Speaker 1: in their lives where it seems like people woke up
Speaker 1: knowing what they wanted to do or knowing what they're
Speaker 1: passionate about. But everyone has gone through lots of different
Speaker 1: chapters and diversions, often to.
Speaker 3: Get to where they are.
Speaker 1: So I like to go back to the very beginning,
Speaker 1: as you said, to get to know who you are,
Speaker 1: not what you do, but who you are and what
Speaker 1: you love and what's given you that feeling of yeah,
Speaker 1: your whole life. So can you take us back to
Speaker 1: very young you what you were like as a child.
Speaker 1: I have heard that you were diagnosed as autistic at five,
Speaker 1: but you didn't find out until you were thirteen.
Speaker 3: So can you tell us a bit about what your
Speaker 3: childhood was like.
Speaker 2: Well, in my primary school years, I was constantly off
Speaker 2: in my own world, and I often sat alone at
Speaker 2: school by choice because of slights being alone, and plus
Speaker 2: I didn't have any social skills at the time, and
Speaker 2: I was barely invited to things as well, compared to
Speaker 2: the likes of my siblings as well, but also when
Speaker 2: I got into my high school years, I became more worrisome.
Speaker 2: As I got into high school and because there was
Speaker 2: more work to do, and the maps was harder, and
Speaker 2: the assignments and the exams, and because of the poor
Speaker 2: levels of maturity of the other students, which I found annoying,
Speaker 2: I just hated high school in general.
Speaker 1: I think quite a lot of people find that if
Speaker 1: they don't find that their particular type of intelligence or
Speaker 1: creativity is appreciated or recognize that, it's not a very
Speaker 1: nice time of their lives.
Speaker 2: And my mother didn't tell me that I had a
Speaker 2: SPURGS until I was thirteen, because when I was in
Speaker 2: primary school, I most likely would not have understood what
Speaker 2: it was at the time because I was only a
Speaker 2: kid back then, and again, I was always in my
Speaker 2: own world. And I can't look back on that with
Speaker 2: a degree of embarrassment.
Speaker 1: What did it feel like for you when you did
Speaker 1: understand what aspergers was? And also for those of our
Speaker 1: listeners who don't know what aspergers is, can you explain
Speaker 1: a bit about how that might manifest.
Speaker 2: Aspurgs is basically a moldiform of autism. It's a developmental
Speaker 2: disorder affecting ability to effectively socialize and communicate. Some people
Speaker 2: with Aspergers have these unique gifts of being able to
Speaker 2: do puzzles extremely well, in less probably maybe in less
Speaker 2: time than some people. And they have repetitive and restricted
Speaker 2: interests by choice, as I did too. The only thing
Speaker 2: is they just have social issues, but they just can't
Speaker 2: help that.
Speaker 1: Did you find once you found out that you had
Speaker 1: asperges that it helped explain things to you? Was it
Speaker 1: hard for you to process or was it a good
Speaker 1: thing to find out?
Speaker 2: Well, it didn't bother me much really, because my mother
Speaker 2: explained it thoroughly enough, and I never really saw it
Speaker 2: as a hindrance or a burden for that matter, just
Speaker 2: something that I instantly came to terms with.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I've heard you say a couple of times that, even
Speaker 1: though autism and any of the conditions on the spectrum
Speaker 1: can be quite misunderstood in broader society, I love that
Speaker 1: you have always really seen it as a gift more
Speaker 1: than a burden. Why do you see it as a gift?
Speaker 1: Can explain what you mean by that?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's just my personal perception of it. Because
Speaker 2: I have a photographic memory, I'm able to remember scenes
Speaker 2: from films or shows and lines almost instantly, and I'm
Speaker 2: very knowledgeable about certain things aren't passionate about, like railways, animals,
Speaker 2: and acting.
Speaker 1: And France and Germany. I hear no England in Germany.
Speaker 1: I hear that you're very knowledgeable about Well, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not exactly knowledgeable about it. I'm just passionate about the cultures, right.
Speaker 2: It's because the thing is I've just never been interested
Speaker 2: in history.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. But you find like the current culture
Speaker 1: and the languages. Is that what you find interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't really find the past cultures. Well,
Speaker 2: let's just say that there have been times where they
Speaker 2: haven't been the best.
Speaker 1: One thing I think you have become a really wonderful
Speaker 1: role model for many people around the world now, is
Speaker 1: teaching us to embrace our differences and what makes us
Speaker 1: unique rather than trying to suppress those things. And I
Speaker 1: think for a lot of our life we try and
Speaker 1: fit in, so we try and be the same as
Speaker 1: everyone else. What do you say to people who, whether
Speaker 1: it's because of being on the spectrum or any other
Speaker 1: reason why they might be different, that they're trying to
Speaker 1: fit in during school or university, what advice would you
Speaker 1: give to people about getting comfortable with who you are.
Speaker 2: Let me just say I'm going to put this very bluntly.
Speaker 2: God loves uniqueness. We're all destined to be unique, because
Speaker 2: if we're all uniform, there's nothing interesting about it. And
Speaker 2: if there's something about you that makes you stand out
Speaker 2: from the rest of the crowd, accept it, embrace it.
Speaker 2: And if those people can't accept you for who you
Speaker 2: are or what you are, and they're obviously the wrong crowd.
Speaker 2: Only the right crowd will accept you for who you
Speaker 2: are and what you are, regardless of whatever differences you
Speaker 2: guys have, because only true friends really accept you for
Speaker 2: who you really are.
Speaker 1: That's incredible advice. I feel like all of us need
Speaker 1: to write that down and reflect on it every day.
Speaker 2: And those people that can't even bring themselves to accept
Speaker 2: you for who you are, that's their problem. They can just,
Speaker 2: you know, take it with someone else.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So when did you first decide that you were passionate
Speaker 1: about acting? I know that that's something that you aspire
Speaker 1: to become and to work in. I find it really
Speaker 1: interesting how we form our interests. When did you know
Speaker 1: you wanted to get into entertainment or the media.
Speaker 2: When I was a very little kid. I don't remember
Speaker 2: what age, but I was extremely young back then.
Speaker 1: Did you have a role model? Was there someone who
Speaker 1: was an actor that you wanted to become.
Speaker 2: Or be like. Nope, a lot of actors in general,
Speaker 2: because they're all great. That's why with a lot of
Speaker 2: my favorite shows, I don't exactly have the biggest highlight
Speaker 2: of any cast because they're all great.
Speaker 1: And so now that you've become a TV star, I
Speaker 1: mean you're pretty much already there. How did the opportunity
Speaker 1: for love on the Spectrum arise?
Speaker 3: What made you say? Yes?
Speaker 2: Well, let me put it this way. I'm with an
Speaker 2: employment agency called at Work Australia. Norman Pictures contacted them
Speaker 2: for your potential candidates. They recommended me, but also I
Speaker 2: repeatedly called Norman Pictures because I was so eager to
Speaker 2: get on the show. Well because I saw it as
Speaker 2: a goal and opportunity to help me find a partner. Yes,
Speaker 2: I didn't do this for fame and I only did
Speaker 2: it as a chance to find a woman.
Speaker 1: I heard that your biggest dream. I think it was
Speaker 1: in the first episode when someone asked what's your dream?
Speaker 1: What do you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker 1: And you said a husband.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's still one of my goals. But I've also
Speaker 2: got two more.
Speaker 3: What are your other girls becoming?
Speaker 2: An actor and also have in my own place.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh amazing. So back to the first goal, becoming a husband.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that one of the challenges with having Asperger's
Speaker 1: is to be able to express yourself in social context
Speaker 1: the way that you might like to and that that
Speaker 1: had been hard when you were trying to find a
Speaker 1: partner before the show. How did being on the show
Speaker 1: change that? Did you learn a lot of things? You
Speaker 1: got to chat to some amazing people.
Speaker 2: It just basically gave me opportunities to meet you people,
Speaker 2: and it made me led to me making friends outside
Speaker 2: the show and also maybe decide the kind of things
Speaker 2: I would like a woman.
Speaker 3: What are those things?
Speaker 2: Well, she basically has to be a beautiful, loving woman
Speaker 2: with a pure heart to come from a good family,
Speaker 2: and she also has to handle being an actor's wife.
Speaker 2: If she can't, that's kind of a deal breaker.
Speaker 1: It is a deal breaker, right, And how do you?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the world has fallen in
Speaker 1: love with you because you were very smooth on some of.
Speaker 3: Your dates that you went on the show.
Speaker 1: What were some of your favorite memories from being on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Being Dawn Wells was the biggest highlight?
Speaker 1: Oh, I loved that episode. She signed your book, didn't she.
Speaker 2: She did, yes, but that was actually a cookbook that
Speaker 2: she published back in nineteen ninety three. Wow, I bought
Speaker 2: it secondhand on eBay.
Speaker 3: Really well, now you could sell it with her signature.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: So some really cool things have happened to you since
Speaker 1: being on the show, not only being out of practice dating,
Speaker 1: but also you've been interviewed by Ellen, and only the
Speaker 1: most famous people in the world get to go on Allen.
Speaker 3: What was that like?
Speaker 2: That was quite an honor. Even my mother was outside
Speaker 2: my quarters this room, getting all excited like a fifteen
Speaker 2: year old woman. Unsurprisingly, I was composed the whole time,
Speaker 2: so composed. That's because I also want to make celebrities
Speaker 2: be aware that there are some people in the world
Speaker 2: that are already aware that that celebrities aren't gods. They're
Speaker 2: just normal people like the rest of us. But if
Speaker 2: I ever did encounter celebrity in the streets, instead of
Speaker 2: asking for an autograph or a selfie, what I'd rather
Speaker 2: do is preferably have a meal with them and get
Speaker 2: to know them what they're like offscreen, absolutely, and not
Speaker 2: ask them for any favors.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: I think that's why you have such a great podcast,
Speaker 1: Because you have I've been able to get a lot
Speaker 1: of celebrities on the show, big famous celebrities, but you're
Speaker 1: so interested in who they are. You don't go straight
Speaker 1: to the normal questions that they get. You have really
Speaker 1: meaningful conversations and they relax. They sound like they relax
Speaker 1: with you very quickly.
Speaker 2: And what kind of questions normal questions? Did you mean?
Speaker 1: I just think that it's beautiful that you know, you
Speaker 1: made them really relaxed. Do you ask them about what
Speaker 1: it was like behind the scenes. You didn't ask them
Speaker 1: really gushy questions like what's it like being famous? Or
Speaker 1: you know, you seem very cool. Do you ever get nervous?
Speaker 2: Nope? Really I just feel excited and on it.
Speaker 1: What about before the TV show? Did you watch the show?
Speaker 1: Did you watch yourself back?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did, but it kind of felt weird because
Speaker 2: it's kind of weird watching yourself on screen.
Speaker 3: What did it feel like?
Speaker 2: It was kind of cringing a lot because it was new. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you feel better in season two? Were you more
Speaker 1: familiar with watching yourself?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 2: Not really more familiar, but I sometimes tend to what
Speaker 2: others think, because I'm sensitive to the feelings of others.
Speaker 3: Yes, it stands out that you're very empathetic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when I'm around women, because they're extremely sentimental.
Speaker 3: Why do you think you would make a great husband?
Speaker 2: Because I don't drink, I don't gamble, I don't smoke,
Speaker 2: I don't take drugs. I save my money, I use
Speaker 2: it wisely, and because my father raised me to be
Speaker 2: a gentleman, both my parents did, and because I have chivalry.
Speaker 1: Apparently, yes, you do. What do you mean apparently? Have
Speaker 1: people told you that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just rather be humble about it rather than
Speaker 2: making it sound like it like it's boastful.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're very humble. Given that you have
Speaker 1: fans from all over the world. The most recent episode
Speaker 1: on your podcast, I heard there was a fan from
Speaker 1: Germany who wrote you a letter.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't say wrote a letter. They just send
Speaker 2: me an email.
Speaker 3: Oh that's similar, Yeah it is, but the more modern way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right. What would you say is your ideal date.
Speaker 2: Basically having a beautiful dinner somewhere fancy and go borom
Speaker 2: dancing afterwards bom dancing, and then spend some alone time
Speaker 2: together after that amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, I've also heard, because you are so humble and
Speaker 1: you are very chivalrous, that you tend to play down
Speaker 1: a lot of your achievements as well. But I want
Speaker 1: to hear what are some of the things you've been
Speaker 1: able to achieve since the show?
Speaker 2: Well has ellen, of course huge, and I've had fans
Speaker 2: on Instagram messaging me saying they've wanted to send me gifts,
Speaker 2: you know, crystals shirts. I know, it's.
Speaker 3: So cool.
Speaker 2: I kiss it.
Speaker 3: And you're still in Wollongong.
Speaker 2: Yep, still living in Wollongong.
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful part of the world. I love Wollongong.
Speaker 2: I suppose it is, but I've also somewhat outgrown it
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 3: Yes, well you are mister a plus.
Speaker 2: Now whereabouts are you based in Melbourne? Oh? Melbourne, But I.
Speaker 1: Come to Sydney. My best friend lives in Sydney and
Speaker 1: every now and then we'll go for a little road trip,
Speaker 1: you know, into New South Wales. And I've spent some
Speaker 1: time in Wollongong because it's such a beautiful part of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: I didn't see you there, though, I was very disappointed.
Speaker 1: When was this it was alone before the show, it
Speaker 1: was a long time since I've.
Speaker 2: Been I was a nobody back then.
Speaker 3: I don't think you were a nobody. How has it
Speaker 3: changed you?
Speaker 2: It's kind of exposed me a lot more in Australia
Speaker 2: but also around the world, and now I've finally become
Speaker 2: somebody that women want to take notice of.
Speaker 3: They do. Do you like that?
Speaker 2: Yes? But before the show, they most likely would not
Speaker 2: have had any interest whatsoever.
Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't watch the show, I've recommended it
Speaker 1: actually on this show as a source of ya for particularly,
Speaker 1: we've had a bit of a hard few years and
Speaker 1: you bring so much positivity and warmth and your show
Speaker 1: brings a lot of joy and yay to people. But
Speaker 1: for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, why do you
Speaker 1: think it's a really special show? Why do you think
Speaker 1: it went so well around the world?
Speaker 2: Mostly because it's very different to The Bachelor and Mardi First,
Speaker 2: Silent Love, Islent all those shows. This show wasn't done
Speaker 2: for drama. This was done authentically.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think personally I didn't necessarily understand the variety
Speaker 1: and the diversity of how autism can manifest and how
Speaker 1: differently it impacts people. But also I think humanized and
Speaker 1: normalized people who aren't neurotypical and made the mainstream, you know,
Speaker 1: the mainstream media kind of help us all understand. Are
Speaker 1: there any ways that you think people misunderstood aspergers before
Speaker 1: that they now understand better.
Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. Actually, not really an expert on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you an expert on? Then let's talk
Speaker 1: about things that make you?
Speaker 2: YEA, maybe Gilligan's Island.
Speaker 3: I've heard that.
Speaker 1: And you dressed up as someone from Gilligan's Island for
Speaker 1: Comic Con?
Speaker 2: Is that right? That's called Super and Over? And I
Speaker 2: was dressed as the skipper right as a tribute to
Speaker 2: the to the actor who played in Rip, and also
Speaker 2: because dorn Wells and that actor Alan Hale Jr. They
Speaker 2: were very close in reality. And he reminded both me
Speaker 2: and her of our dads.
Speaker 3: What do your parents think about you being famous?
Speaker 2: They're actually all cool with it? Are they?
Speaker 3: Do they get stopped in the street? Like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: Michael's parents.
Speaker 2: Actually, my mother gets stopped on occasion, but I get
Speaker 2: stopped more than they do. Right, my dad is more
Speaker 2: of a private person. Okay, he's kind of camera shy
Speaker 2: as well, is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do they share your love for Brooklyn ninety nine, and
Speaker 1: do you guys watch this set?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 3: So you do watch it by yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 2: And also I'm one of the few people in this
Speaker 2: world that doesn't use streaming services. I'm one of the
Speaker 2: few people that still uses a DVD player.
Speaker 1: I heard that, Oh my gosh, and you're waiting what
Speaker 1: was I listening to? You were waiting for something new
Speaker 1: to come out on DVD. You hadn't watched the latest season,
Speaker 1: and I think, Chelsea PERETTI couldn't believe that you still
Speaker 1: have a DVD player.
Speaker 2: Actually that was the eighth season I was waiting on.
Speaker 2: But I finally but I've finally seen it.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk Brooklyn nine nine because this is it's
Speaker 1: my favorite show. Okay, what is your favorite episode?
Speaker 2: I don't really have a favorite episode. A lot of
Speaker 2: them are great.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what do you think is the scene
Speaker 1: you're the best at replicating? I want to see your
Speaker 1: acting skills come out in this episode?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: Okay. There was one called Return of the King, which
Speaker 2: was directed by Melissa Fumero. If I do an impression
Speaker 2: of Terry Jeffers, I'm not going to sound exactly like him,
Speaker 2: because that could be taken the wrong way. Gina became
Speaker 2: an internet celebrity and she hadn't spoken to anyone from
Speaker 2: the Nine to nine in months, But Jake got a
Speaker 2: call from her out of the blue, and Terry became
Speaker 2: suspicious of her motives.
Speaker 4: Ah, I remember this one when she.
Speaker 2: Asked them they want to hang out a bar and
Speaker 2: have drinks together. That night, Terry and Jake had a
Speaker 2: conversation like this. Sorry, I gotta say I'm surprised Gina
Speaker 2: invited us to drinks tonight. She obviously only invited us
Speaker 2: over to a place because she needed a favor. Why
Speaker 2: are you still so down on her? I've been through
Speaker 2: this before. In college, I had a football buddy, Bryan Ungerbirt.
Speaker 2: Let me guess you guys were best friends. Then he
Speaker 2: got drafted into the NFL and now you never talk.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: He got drafted into the Canadian Football League, became a
Speaker 2: long snapper for Ottawa and even that level success ruined
Speaker 2: our friendship. He's still playing. How is that possible you're
Speaker 2: thirty five to sixty years old. It's Canada. They don't
Speaker 2: tackles hard and anyway, his career became the only thing
Speaker 2: that mattered. He was offering photo shoots, commercials, speaking at
Speaker 2: long snapping conventions? Is that a thing in Canada? Is
Speaker 2: like the Oskers? Look, the point is he stopped making
Speaker 2: time for his friends. Right, fine, but that's not what's
Speaker 2: happening here. Nothing has changed of Genus. She's not an Ungerbert.
Speaker 1: Did you do that whole thing without a script in
Speaker 1: front of you?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: How do you remember that?
Speaker 2: I just watched that scene a few times and it
Speaker 2: just sinks in.
Speaker 3: That is amazing.
Speaker 2: But if you really want to see my acting skills,
Speaker 2: I got to show what else I can do. I
Speaker 2: er that film The Grinch with Jim Carrey. I sure
Speaker 2: do mind if I do something like that, please do
Speaker 2: it all right. I'm also gotta do one from a
Speaker 2: Bug's Life as well, if I.
Speaker 3: May, absolutely. Okay, Okay, I'm ready, Of course they are.
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5: Is that's what it's always been about. Gifts, gifts, give
Speaker 5: us the stuff diffs. You want to know what happens
Speaker 5: to your gifts? They all come to me in your garbage.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: In your garbage? I gona hang much over all the
Speaker 6: bad Christmas Necktars. I found the dump and the Averdice,
Speaker 6: the Averice Neverlands.
Speaker 2: I want diamonds. I want to golf clmbs. I want
Speaker 2: a diamonds. I want to ponies. I can run it twice,
Speaker 2: get bored, sell it to make glue, look out and
Speaker 2: make waves.
Speaker 6: But it's whole Christmas seasons, stupid stoop patch.
Speaker 2: There is, however, one deany tiny Christmas tradition I find
Speaker 2: quite meaningful. Misshoot Now poker up and cut. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: that was so good. Now I can do another one
Speaker 2: of him if.
Speaker 1: I'm not absolutely this is the best. Is bringing me
Speaker 1: so much yay?
Speaker 2: No for those who's in finding me down there, I'm
Speaker 2: short nourish. Even if I wanted to go, my schedule
Speaker 2: would allow it. Four o'clock Wallow and self pity. Four
Speaker 2: point thirty stand in to the Abyss. Five o'clock Solve
Speaker 2: World Hunger, Tell No. One five point thirty Jesi size
Speaker 2: six point thirty dealer with me. I can't cancel that again.
Speaker 2: Seven o'clock wrestle myself loading a boot of above the
Speaker 2: loading toon nine of the land Badgtore. The Sheilinger slips
Speaker 2: slowly into madness.
Speaker 3: How do you remember all of those lines?
Speaker 2: Like I said, watch it a few times and then
Speaker 2: it sinks in.
Speaker 1: You're going to make the most amazing actor because they
Speaker 1: will won't even have to give you a script. They'll
Speaker 1: just give it to you once, or they'll play it
Speaker 1: to you once and then you'll just remember it.
Speaker 2: I'm also able to improvise as well.
Speaker 1: Really do you do improv classes or do you just
Speaker 1: improvise by yourself?
Speaker 2: Not really by myself? And I just you remember when
Speaker 2: I mentioned the bugs life? Yeah? Mind, If I do
Speaker 2: an impression of Hopper, please do because I want to
Speaker 2: show the audience what I can really also do as well. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: they've always seen me as formal and professional, but I
Speaker 2: want to show them what I can also do. But
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that this monologue
Speaker 2: will will sound very angry and probably pretty harsh.
Speaker 3: Okay, mind, if I do it, I'd love to see it.
Speaker 2: You let one an stand up to then they all
Speaker 2: might stand up. Those puny little ants out number us
Speaker 2: one hundred to one, and if they ever figure that out,
Speaker 2: there goes our way of life. It's not about food,
Speaker 2: It's about keeping those ants in line. That's why we're
Speaker 2: going back? Does anybody else want to stay? How was
Speaker 2: that so good?
Speaker 1: It's like you go into character and then your facial expressions,
Speaker 1: the voice, the tone, everything changes. Yeah, just like that though,
Speaker 1: and then you just come back out of it.
Speaker 2: It's it's nothing.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Did you do classes like it?
Speaker 4: To have you?
Speaker 3: Always?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: No? But do this? Ever? Since I was a kid
Speaker 2: really private at home, I know.
Speaker 3: You just practiced. Is that how you? Because you're doing
Speaker 3: different characters straight after each other.
Speaker 2: Now I want to do another impression, and I want
Speaker 2: you to tell me how harsh this one really is? Okay,
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me. Okay, sure, leaves over,
Speaker 2: get your sorry carcasses on board. Now how harsh was that?
Speaker 3: Oh? My god?
Speaker 1: You should see the audio blowing out. That's how angry
Speaker 1: it is. It's like, rah, it is, but in a
Speaker 1: good way. Oh my gosh. So how did you start
Speaker 1: doing these impressions? Did you just pick shows that you
Speaker 1: liked and characters that you like and then.
Speaker 3: Practice their voice?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course.
Speaker 1: How did it begin? Was it with Thomas the Tank?
Speaker 1: Was that your first one?
Speaker 2: Well? That was like one of the first shows I
Speaker 2: started watching it when I was a kid. I was
Speaker 2: three years old at the time, so three yeah, so
Speaker 2: that's now twenty five years.
Speaker 1: There was a new one though, wasn't There was there
Speaker 1: a new Thomas Thomas and Friends that came out.
Speaker 2: Actually that's the original show. Now there's a reboot, which
Speaker 2: in my book is terrible.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're a purist. Do you like the original versions?
Speaker 2: Yes? Just like with Disney films, the remaining to say,
Speaker 2: to capture the authenticity and the purity and the wholesomeness
Speaker 2: of the originals.
Speaker 3: Can I agree? I agree?
Speaker 1: I am like original The Lion King, Aladdin, Little Mermaid,
Speaker 1: all of those. I don't want the remake. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're great, but the original in two D with a
Speaker 1: you know, all the characters look like one pixel. I
Speaker 1: don't care love.
Speaker 2: It, although with the Disney films, are not really too
Speaker 2: interested in The Little Mermaid.
Speaker 3: What are your favorite Disney films?
Speaker 2: Alison won Land one hundred and one Dalmatians. Oh, I
Speaker 2: love that one. Who doesn't It's so good? Even The Beast, Aladdin,
Speaker 2: The Lion King, Tangled, both Frozen films because I'm actually
Speaker 2: quite a closet fan of them.
Speaker 1: Frozen, I feel like is new generation, though it's recent,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're in the closet about it. You don't
Speaker 3: tell people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well sort of because it's not exactly something a
Speaker 2: man would watch.
Speaker 1: Do you know what, though, I feel like you've taught
Speaker 1: me a lot about masculinity through watching the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people around the world have
Speaker 1: seen a real gentleman in you in a way that
Speaker 1: they don't see on other dating shows, and it's very refreshing.
Speaker 2: Thanks. And I also learned something as well. If a
Speaker 2: man says to a woman, we'll talk about it later,
Speaker 2: do you know what he actually means?
Speaker 3: What does he mean?
Speaker 2: That's more of a man's way of saying I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about it at all. Ever.
Speaker 3: Again, I'm slowly learning that.
Speaker 2: But also the other thing is a lot of some
Speaker 2: men just can't be bothered putting in at least five
Speaker 2: or ten minutes to listen to their permit to what
Speaker 2: she has to say is probably important.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think you would be a very good listener
Speaker 1: as a partner, a very good listener. But she would
Speaker 1: have to like Disney films, though.
Speaker 2: Obviously not necessarily.
Speaker 1: Really, that's not a deal breaker, no is acting. She'd
Speaker 1: have to be able to listen to your impressions.
Speaker 2: Though, Well, if she doesn't like or appreciate my acting work,
Speaker 2: that's kind of a turnoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. If you could date a Disney princess,
Speaker 1: who would you date?
Speaker 2: Uh that's a bit of a tough one.
Speaker 3: It's hard. They're all amazing, But.
Speaker 2: Most likely I would probably choose Anna.
Speaker 3: Really, yep, there you go.
Speaker 1: I would have thought like Jasmine or Belle Belle so sweet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you sing the songs or do you just do?
Speaker 3: Do you do any Disney impressions?
Speaker 2: Depends I well, depends on the characters. But I am
Speaker 2: surprisingly able to do guests on.
Speaker 3: I think, please do show.
Speaker 2: But I don't share his views though.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good distinction. He's a bit of he's
Speaker 1: not necessarily very fuorous.
Speaker 2: You're right, Okay, said this to Belle. Picture this a
Speaker 2: rusty canning lodge, my latest kill roasting on the fire,
Speaker 2: my little wife massaging my feet. Well, the little ones
Speaker 2: play on the floor with the dogs. We will have
Speaker 2: six or seven. I remember that saying she thought he
Speaker 2: meant dogs, but he was like, no bell strapping boys
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 1: That light was so good, it was Yes, I remember
Speaker 1: that part of the movie so distinctly, and her face
Speaker 1: is going when he goes and you can massage my feet,
Speaker 1: and her face goes.
Speaker 2: Oh, six or seven sons, Oh, i'ld hate that?
Speaker 3: Would you like kids?
Speaker 2: I've never really dreamed of being a father, but I
Speaker 2: am kind of open to it.
Speaker 3: But not six or seven. That's too many. Two is enough,
Speaker 3: lovely neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: for anyone else out there who is looking for love
Speaker 1: and who maybe watched Love on the Spectrum and loved
Speaker 1: watching you date and figure out what you love in
Speaker 1: a partner and what you don't like in a partner,
Speaker 1: do you have any advice on dating and finding love.
Speaker 2: Well, don't give up. And if you have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to meet somebody or go on a day with someone,
Speaker 2: take it. See what they're like, test the waters, see
Speaker 2: what they like as people. But don't be hasty enough
Speaker 2: to rush into things. Just give people a chance and
Speaker 2: just enjoy yourselves as well.
Speaker 1: And what about people who have big goals like starting
Speaker 1: a podcast or being an actor and maybe face some
Speaker 1: obstacles of people either underestimating you because of ours spurgers
Speaker 1: or I think a lot of us face barriers in
Speaker 1: different way to our confidence. But you've obviously gone on
Speaker 1: and even though one of the challenges for you has
Speaker 1: been social skills, you've had some amazing conversations on your show.
Speaker 2: Well with this, with the podcasting and acting thing. I
Speaker 2: don't really have much advice because I didn't work for
Speaker 2: ane of those things. They just came.
Speaker 3: Well, you're very good at them.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Was it a goal to have a podcast?
Speaker 2: No, it was really well, my agent asked me. Well,
Speaker 2: she simply said to me that a lot of other
Speaker 2: people wanted to get me on their podcast because of
Speaker 2: Love and the Spectrum, and then she asked me, why
Speaker 2: don't you have your own that I thought about it
Speaker 2: for quite a few weeks, and so maybe I should.
Speaker 1: I think you're very good at it, particularly since it
Speaker 1: wasn't on the cards, like you didn't train for it
Speaker 1: or prepare for it.
Speaker 2: Well, the best thing about being a podcaster is just
Speaker 2: interview your guests as casually but also with some formality
Speaker 2: as well, and also make it a safe space where
Speaker 2: they can feel comfort and that words are welcome.
Speaker 3: That's excellent advice, but.
Speaker 2: Also just be mindful of what you say on podcasts.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it comes with some responsibility and also knowing that
Speaker 1: the episodes will be online forever. Maybe you know you
Speaker 1: do have to create a safe space for people.
Speaker 2: And if you have producers that work with you on
Speaker 2: the podcast, show them that you appreciate the hard work. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: And because I'm not a one man crew.
Speaker 3: There's a whole mister, A plus team, isn't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it wasn't for them, the podcast would never
Speaker 2: have been possible.
Speaker 1: You said to Stephanie Beatrice, I think that you would
Speaker 1: love to have the whole cast of Brooklyn nine nine
Speaker 1: and Sophia Vegara on the show. Who's your dream guest list?
Speaker 2: Well, I want to interview all the cast members of
Speaker 2: my favorite shows, but also my dream male guest is
Speaker 2: Mark Evan Jackson.
Speaker 3: Who's that I heard of him?
Speaker 2: Oh? For God's sake, why do some people not know
Speaker 2: who he is?
Speaker 3: Maybe if he went on your podcast, we would all
Speaker 3: know who he is.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. You've seen Brooklyn, you've
Speaker 2: seen Brooklyn nine nine. You know who Kevin Costner is,
Speaker 2: then you should know who Mark Evan Jackson is.
Speaker 3: Who is Mark Evin Jackson.
Speaker 2: He plays Kevin Cosser for God's.
Speaker 1: Sake, oh in nine nine. Yes, Oh, my gosh, of
Speaker 1: course I know him. So he's he's your ultimate male
Speaker 1: guest you'd love on the show.
Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, he's one of my biggest inspirations for comedy. Wow,
Speaker 2: because his voice is so dry, dead pan and flat.
Speaker 3: Un Like my dad, he is very dead pan.
Speaker 1: He's so funny when he speaks to Holt, Captain Holt, Raymond,
Speaker 1: can you please do your impression?
Speaker 3: I think you did it for me before.
Speaker 2: Sure, Look Raymond a yellow christ support. Look.
Speaker 3: Oh they're so funny. They're such a good couple.
Speaker 2: Yes they are.
Speaker 1: You also spoke to Stephanie a lot. She really opened
Speaker 1: up to you about coming at as bisexual, and obviously
Speaker 1: Raymond Holt and Kevin Costner.
Speaker 3: Are a gay couple.
Speaker 1: I think that's also a point of difference that people
Speaker 1: are learning to celebrate rather than suppress. How do you
Speaker 1: create a safe space for people on your show?
Speaker 2: Well, I might have said this before, but I actually
Speaker 2: support the LGBT community because they deserve rights, they deserve
Speaker 2: to be treated equally, and it's not going to be
Speaker 2: ashamed about. In fact, I'm actually friends with some people
Speaker 2: that are part of that community.
Speaker 3: Like Stephanie is a friend of yours. Now I think.
Speaker 2: I would say so. In fact, I'm actually also feel
Speaker 2: a fan of Encanto.
Speaker 3: Yes, she did the voice, didn't she for one of
Speaker 3: the main character.
Speaker 2: Yep, she did.
Speaker 4: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: In fact, not only does she have a Colombian background,
Speaker 2: but also Sophia Viagara does. Of course, her character on
Speaker 2: Modern Family always reminds me of my mother.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You should imagine if you could get her on the podcast,
Speaker 1: what would you ask her?
Speaker 2: Pretty much Rea sent all the questions to what I
Speaker 2: asked my guests, but also take that opportunity to introduce
Speaker 2: her to my mother.
Speaker 3: Right, do you think they get along?
Speaker 2: Yep? Then I would say to my mother, now I
Speaker 2: can finally put my case to sleep.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, as you know the name of this podcast is
Speaker 1: the which is a play on Caesar Day. So sort
Speaker 1: of swapping, yeah, swapping the normal metrics that a lot
Speaker 1: of people measure their lives on, like success or money
Speaker 1: or milestones and goals, which are important. But I think
Speaker 1: joy and fulfillment and whether you're happy and healthy and
Speaker 1: have loved ones around you is much more important in life.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, but money is also important because money
Speaker 2: is a tool. Money is what we need to pay bills,
Speaker 2: put food on the table, and afford things that we
Speaker 2: need and also want for personal pleasure. Money doesn't buy everything.
Speaker 2: It just buys the things that we need need to afford.
Speaker 2: Money is just a tool. That's it.
Speaker 3: That's so true. It's not your value.
Speaker 1: It's not a reflection of your worth or and it's
Speaker 1: also not It doesn't equal happiness. I think some people
Speaker 1: think it will bring them joy on its own.
Speaker 2: For rich men, money means power, But for someone like myself,
Speaker 2: money means security and thus securing my chances of settling
Speaker 2: down with a woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and finding your person.
Speaker 2: Exactly, because if I don't have money, how am I
Speaker 2: supposed to provide for my wife, let alone kids.
Speaker 3: And especially if there's six or seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be a terrible provider, not to mention a
Speaker 2: crap husband and also a crap father.
Speaker 1: You will be a wonderful husband and a wonderful father. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you would.
Speaker 2: Because if I'm ever going to be a father, I
Speaker 2: want the best for my kids like my father did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think one thing that because money is a
Speaker 1: bit of a distraction. I think it distracts people in
Speaker 1: society quite a bit.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: What advice do you have?
Speaker 1: You're very clear on what you're passionate about and what
Speaker 1: brings you yay. A lot of people don't know what
Speaker 1: makes them happy. They're so distracted that they don't even
Speaker 1: know what they like and they can't find their passion
Speaker 1: and they're unhappy in their job. And you know, this
Speaker 1: podcast for me is having conversations with people who know
Speaker 1: what makes them yay and how they got there to
Speaker 1: inspire others. What advice do you have? How do you
Speaker 1: find what makes you passionate? How do you make time
Speaker 1: for your hobbies and what makes you passionate?
Speaker 2: Let me put it this way, you can't prioritize your
Speaker 2: work life. You need to have a work life balance.
Speaker 2: Another important thing is you still need to make time
Speaker 2: for your family and friends even when you are busy,
Speaker 2: because family and friendships are both important, but also rent
Speaker 2: these days is ridiculously expensive. And look at me. I'm
Speaker 2: twenty eight now and I still live in my parents
Speaker 2: even though it makes me feel like I'm still behind
Speaker 2: in life, but people around me have told me that
Speaker 2: it's nothing to be embarrassed about.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: And if you want to know what you're passionate about,
Speaker 2: just search your heart and see what you love to
Speaker 2: do and what you love.
Speaker 3: That's amazing advice.
Speaker 2: For example, if you're to give a speech at a wedding,
Speaker 2: don't write a rehearse speech. Just search your heart and
Speaker 2: say what you're feeling.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you touched on feeling behind, and I
Speaker 1: think that also distracts people a lot from joy because
Speaker 1: they feel like they've got to hustle all the time
Speaker 1: and never rest and never make time for happiness.
Speaker 2: But that's a ridiculous way to live, isn't it. Life
Speaker 2: is not a race. Life is a journey. Life is
Speaker 2: like a book. Chapters are like years, pages are like months,
Speaker 2: and paragraphs are like days in a week.
Speaker 3: That's such a beautiful analogy. I've never heard anyone say that.
Speaker 2: And a sentence in a paragraph is like maybe an
Speaker 2: hour of a day.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was beautiful, Michael.
Speaker 2: People should start looking at life is like a book.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I'm so grateful for your time. That was
Speaker 1: the most beautiful quote to end on. I usually ask
Speaker 1: people for their favorite quote, but I feel like that
Speaker 1: was a beautiful quote. Your own quote was more beautiful
Speaker 1: than any quote than you could pick.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you would like to leave the audience
Speaker 1: with about seizing your yea or finding your joy?
Speaker 2: All I can say is don't always put work first
Speaker 2: time for your family and friends even when you are busy,
Speaker 2: because that's what I do. And make time for yourself
Speaker 2: as well. You can't spend your whole life being a
Speaker 2: people pleaser because it's just not possible. And in the
Speaker 2: world of dating, when you get yourself the best catch,
Speaker 2: do not throw him or her back. Cherish your partner,
Speaker 2: show them every day how much you love and care
Speaker 2: for them. Don't tell them, show them, whether it's making
Speaker 2: them a meal, or taking them out somewhere, or giving
Speaker 2: them a gift of some sort anything. And in life,
Speaker 2: always stay safe, take care of yourself and always stay
Speaker 2: true to yourself as well. Don't try to be something
Speaker 2: or not, but also chase your dreams if you have them.
Speaker 2: Don't let anyone stand between you and your destiny. And
Speaker 2: also very importantly, live life to the fullest the best
Speaker 2: you can. Amazing, but working in hustling all the time
Speaker 2: is not going to cut it.
Speaker 1: You're right well that was just a beautiful way to end.
Speaker 1: I think everyone should watch Love on the Spectrum if
Speaker 1: they haven't or listened to mister A Plus. I'll make
Speaker 1: sure to put the links to your podcast in the
Speaker 1: show notes. Is there anything else coming up that we
Speaker 1: should look out for from you? Or just follow the
Speaker 1: podcast and see what.
Speaker 3: You're up to.
Speaker 2: Well, just keep following the podcast because there'll be episodes
Speaker 2: released every week, no question, no doubt. And I'm still
Speaker 2: pursuing acting as a career. That's one of my biggest
Speaker 2: goals for this year. And there is something going on
Speaker 2: in the pipeline, but I can't really reveal too much
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exciting.
Speaker 2: But in the very near future, I do intend to
Speaker 2: visit England.
Speaker 3: England that you're obsessed with.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh, how exciting have you been before?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: My mum is the same as you, obsessed with England,
Speaker 1: Obsessed everything English. She goes once a year. She saves
Speaker 1: all her money to be in England once a year,
Speaker 1: and she just it's like in another life she lived
Speaker 1: there or something. She just feels at home there. She
Speaker 1: loves the culture, the history, the Royals. She loves the
Speaker 1: Royal family. We have English tea, we have everything is English.
Speaker 3: She's obsessed. So I hope you have the most amazing time.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah, and hopefully i'll meet a woman there.
Speaker 4: Imagine a British wife for you.
Speaker 2: Yep, an English rose An English.
Speaker 3: It's all right.
Speaker 1: Well, we've all got our fingers and toast cross for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. This was absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: It's my pleasure, Sarah. Thank you for inviting me. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Michael truly is a special soul and what a wonderful
Speaker 1: person to help shift societal misconceptions about mirror diversity. It
Speaker 1: was a real privilege he said yes to jumping on
Speaker 1: the show. So if you enjoyed listening, please do take
Speaker 1: a screenshot right now, Do it now and share particularly
Speaker 1: this month and tag at mister A plus Michael all
Speaker 1: with hyphens in between each word, to thank him for
Speaker 1: his time and wisdom, and to keep growing the neighborhood
Speaker 1: as far and wide as possible. I always forget to ask,
Speaker 1: or even when I remember, it is so awkward. But
Speaker 1: if you haven't yet and feel like drawing me a
Speaker 1: belated birthday present. Reviews are really what helps us keep
Speaker 1: getting guests like Michael, so please do take a second,
Speaker 1: if you haven't already, to leave one on the Apple
Speaker 1: podcast app if it feels right. We've got so much
Speaker 1: lined up in the coming week, so I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to share with you guys, And in the meantime, I
Speaker 1: hope you're seizing your yay e