1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by BONDEI Sands Everyday Skincare. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: We're all destined to be unique, because if we're all uniform, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: there's nothing interesting about it. And if there's something about 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: you that makes you stand out from the rest of 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: the crowd, accept it, Embrace it. And if you want 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: to know what you're passionate about, just search your heart 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: and see what you love to do and what you love. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: Life is not a race. Life is a journey. Life 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: is like a book. Chapters are like years, pages are 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: like months, and paragraphs are like days. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: one way. So this is the platform to hear and 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: They adore, the good, bad and ugly. 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: The best and worst days will bear all the facets 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: of seizing your yay. I'm Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah, 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: to co found matcha maiden and matcha milk Bar. Cca 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: is a series of conversations on finding a life you 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: along the way. Lovely Yighborhood. What a whirlwind few weeks 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: it's been. I can't believe it's already April, and I 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys, but I'm counting down until 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the Easter break to catch up with myself again. It's 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: been so delightful to work with real life people in 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: the flesh and travel around again. Of course, I've gotten 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: over excited as usual, and episodes have been dropping all 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: over the shop between Survivor Yea's of Our Lives and 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the regular schedule, but I hope it's been keeping things 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: fresh for you and keeping you on your toes. I 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited to be back to our regular 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: programming this week with a guest with whom many of 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: us have fallen in love from Afar. I didn't intend 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: it this way, but it's funny how things work out. 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: We recorded this day after his birthday and a few 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: days before mine, plus we're releasing it now during World 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Autism Awareness Month, kicking off with United Nations sanctioned World 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Autism Awareness Dage just days ago on April second. YEP, 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I am so thrilled to have Love on the Spectrum 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: star Michael Theo joining us this week. You might remember 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Ange and I recommended this brilliant show in the Years 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: of Our Lives episode. It is such a wholesome and 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: uplifting docu series following seven young neurodiverse adults on the 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Autism Spectrum as they explore the wild. 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: World of dating. 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Michael in particular, captured hearts all over the world with 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: his passion for finding his person and constant singers, making 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: his way even onto The Ellen Show and drawing guests 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: on his own podcast, Mister A Plus like stars from 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: his favorite TV show and Mine Brooklyn nine nine. Having 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: only been told about his autism diagnosis at thirteen years old, 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Michael sees his neurodiversity as a gift, not a burden, 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: and in listening today, I hope you see why. Michael Theo, 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: or should I say, Mister A Plus, Welcome to CEZA. 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah, thanks for having me on. 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: It is such an honor and a privilege. I'm really 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: trying hard not to fan girl you right now, but 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: most importantly before we begin, Happy birthday for yesterday. 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: It's my birthday on Thursday. I think all great people 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: are born in late March. And Ellen got you a 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Paul Smith suit. I can't do. 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: That for you today, she did. 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Yes How did you celebrate celebrate what your birthday? 68 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: We didn't really celebrate yet yet. 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Do you have anything planned? 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Not really, But to be honest, my idea of celebrating 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: my birthday is just having a quiet, low key dinner 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: with a woman one on one. 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: I love this. 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I actually have got I'm married, but if I were 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: ever to be single again, I have gained a lot 76 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: of dating tips and knowledge from listening to your podcast. 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: You've had some incredibly useful advice that you were sharing 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: on the show. So so before we get into your story, 79 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: which I call your way ta or your path Ya, 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: I ask a little icebreaker at the start of every show. 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: And you've become such a beloved TV star with your 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: own amazing show called Mister a Plus with guests like 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: Stephanie Beatrice from Brooklyn nine nine. So, as I mentioned, 84 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm fangirling you right now. You've become a global celebrity. 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: But you said in one of your interviews about wanting 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: to know how people are or who they are off 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: screen as well as who they are on screen. 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 3: Yes, so I thought i'd ask, what. 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: Is the most down to earth thing about you, the 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: most normal thing that we wouldn't necessarily assume because you're 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: such a celebrity. But what's something that is just really 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: relatable about you? 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you some things about me. I absolutely 94 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: hate loud noises. Really yep. 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: What do you love other than Brooklyn nine nine obviously, Well. 96 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: There's several other shows I love. There's news Radio, Thomas 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: the Tank Engine. 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Of course, I heard about Thomas the Tank Engine. Also 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: loved Thomas the Tank. 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: Also Modern Family and The Good Place, and The Big Bang. 101 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: Theory Big Bang. 102 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: I also heard you have an idetic memory, so you're 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: basically Sheldon. 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say. 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: That that's incredible. 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm actually I have a photographic memory 107 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: with things that I'm passionate about, not about everything. 108 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Your recall of episodes of Brooklyn nine nine and the 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: script is absolutely incredible. I've heard you do several impressions 110 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: of several characters. Who's your favorite character? 111 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: Probably Captain Holt and Kevin. 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: Right and Cheddar. 113 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody loves that dog. He's a great dog. 114 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: He's a great dog. 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Oh. And also there's a few things about Amy. 116 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Ooh, is Amy your ideal girl? Do you think that 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: you date Amy? 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Not exactly. She reminds me too much of a high 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: school student. 120 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Yes, very highly strung and lots of facial expressions. I 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: think you and Stephanie were talking about her facial expressions. 122 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 2: Yep. And my mother has a very expressive face as well. 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: You said, actually you said in that episode that she 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: reminds you of your mother. 125 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: And they also both have olive skin and Latin jeans 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: because Melissa Fameiro has a Cuban background while my mother 127 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: is half Italian. 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: Ah. 129 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: I love your mum. She was so great on the show. 130 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Does she have lots of fans as well? 131 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Yes, because literally everyboy loves my mother. 132 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Ah, she's become I should get her on the podcast. 133 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: She sounds like the famous one, I suppose, but she 134 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: has obviously raised a beautiful human in you, mister A plus. 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that happens often 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: when we meet someone through a TV show or through 137 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a podcast is we often meet them at a chapter 138 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: in their lives where it seems like people woke up 139 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: knowing what they wanted to do or knowing what they're 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: passionate about. But everyone has gone through lots of different 141 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: chapters and diversions, often to. 142 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: Get to where they are. 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: So I like to go back to the very beginning, 144 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: as you said, to get to know who you are, 145 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: not what you do, but who you are and what 146 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: you love and what's given you that feeling of yeah, 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: your whole life. So can you take us back to 148 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: very young you what you were like as a child. 149 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I have heard that you were diagnosed as autistic at five, 150 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: but you didn't find out until you were thirteen. 151 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: So can you tell us a bit about what your 152 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: childhood was like. 153 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: Well, in my primary school years, I was constantly off 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: in my own world, and I often sat alone at 155 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: school by choice because of slights being alone, and plus 156 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: I didn't have any social skills at the time, and 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: I was barely invited to things as well, compared to 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: the likes of my siblings as well, but also when 159 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: I got into my high school years, I became more worrisome. 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: As I got into high school and because there was 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: more work to do, and the maps was harder, and 162 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: the assignments and the exams, and because of the poor 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: levels of maturity of the other students, which I found annoying, 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: I just hated high school in general. 165 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I think quite a lot of people find that if 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: they don't find that their particular type of intelligence or 167 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: creativity is appreciated or recognize that, it's not a very 168 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: nice time of their lives. 169 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: And my mother didn't tell me that I had a 170 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: SPURGS until I was thirteen, because when I was in 171 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: primary school, I most likely would not have understood what 172 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: it was at the time because I was only a 173 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: kid back then, and again, I was always in my 174 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: own world. And I can't look back on that with 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: a degree of embarrassment. 176 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: What did it feel like for you when you did 177 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: understand what aspergers was? And also for those of our 178 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: listeners who don't know what aspergers is, can you explain 179 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: a bit about how that might manifest. 180 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: Aspurgs is basically a moldiform of autism. It's a developmental 181 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: disorder affecting ability to effectively socialize and communicate. Some people 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: with Aspergers have these unique gifts of being able to 183 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: do puzzles extremely well, in less probably maybe in less 184 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: time than some people. And they have repetitive and restricted 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: interests by choice, as I did too. The only thing 186 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: is they just have social issues, but they just can't 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: help that. 188 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: Did you find once you found out that you had 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: asperges that it helped explain things to you? Was it 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: hard for you to process or was it a good 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: thing to find out? 192 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: Well, it didn't bother me much really, because my mother 193 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,359 Speaker 2: explained it thoroughly enough, and I never really saw it 194 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: as a hindrance or a burden for that matter, just 195 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: something that I instantly came to terms with. 196 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 4: Right. 197 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: I've heard you say a couple of times that, even 198 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: though autism and any of the conditions on the spectrum 199 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: can be quite misunderstood in broader society, I love that 200 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: you have always really seen it as a gift more 201 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: than a burden. Why do you see it as a gift? 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Can explain what you mean by that? 203 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's just my personal perception of it. Because 204 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: I have a photographic memory, I'm able to remember scenes 205 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: from films or shows and lines almost instantly, and I'm 206 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: very knowledgeable about certain things aren't passionate about, like railways, animals, 207 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: and acting. 208 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: And France and Germany. I hear no England in Germany. 209 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: I hear that you're very knowledgeable about Well, I'm. 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: Not exactly knowledgeable about it. I'm just passionate about the cultures, right. 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: It's because the thing is I've just never been interested 212 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: in history. 213 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. But you find like the current culture 214 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: and the languages. Is that what you find interesting? 215 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't really find the past cultures. Well, 216 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: let's just say that there have been times where they 217 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: haven't been the best. 218 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: One thing I think you have become a really wonderful 219 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: role model for many people around the world now, is 220 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: teaching us to embrace our differences and what makes us 221 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: unique rather than trying to suppress those things. And I 222 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: think for a lot of our life we try and 223 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: fit in, so we try and be the same as 224 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: everyone else. What do you say to people who, whether 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: it's because of being on the spectrum or any other 226 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: reason why they might be different, that they're trying to 227 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: fit in during school or university, what advice would you 228 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: give to people about getting comfortable with who you are. 229 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Let me just say I'm going to put this very bluntly. 230 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: God loves uniqueness. We're all destined to be unique, because 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: if we're all uniform, there's nothing interesting about it. And 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: if there's something about you that makes you stand out 233 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: from the rest of the crowd, accept it, embrace it. 234 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: And if those people can't accept you for who you 235 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: are or what you are, and they're obviously the wrong crowd. 236 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: Only the right crowd will accept you for who you 237 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: are and what you are, regardless of whatever differences you 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: guys have, because only true friends really accept you for 239 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: who you really are. 240 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: That's incredible advice. I feel like all of us need 241 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: to write that down and reflect on it every day. 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: And those people that can't even bring themselves to accept 243 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: you for who you are, that's their problem. They can just, 244 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, take it with someone else. 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 246 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: So when did you first decide that you were passionate 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: about acting? I know that that's something that you aspire 248 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: to become and to work in. I find it really 249 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: interesting how we form our interests. When did you know 250 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: you wanted to get into entertainment or the media. 251 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: When I was a very little kid. I don't remember 252 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: what age, but I was extremely young back then. 253 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Did you have a role model? Was there someone who 254 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: was an actor that you wanted to become. 255 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: Or be like. Nope, a lot of actors in general, 256 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: because they're all great. That's why with a lot of 257 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: my favorite shows, I don't exactly have the biggest highlight 258 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: of any cast because they're all great. 259 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: And so now that you've become a TV star, I 260 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: mean you're pretty much already there. How did the opportunity 261 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: for love on the Spectrum arise? 262 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: What made you say? Yes? 263 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: Well, let me put it this way. I'm with an 264 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: employment agency called at Work Australia. Norman Pictures contacted them 265 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: for your potential candidates. They recommended me, but also I 266 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: repeatedly called Norman Pictures because I was so eager to 267 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: get on the show. Well because I saw it as 268 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: a goal and opportunity to help me find a partner. Yes, 269 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: I didn't do this for fame and I only did 270 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: it as a chance to find a woman. 271 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: I heard that your biggest dream. I think it was 272 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: in the first episode when someone asked what's your dream? 273 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: What do you want to be when you grow up? 274 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: And you said a husband. 275 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Yep, that's still one of my goals. But I've also 276 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: got two more. 277 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: What are your other girls becoming? 278 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: An actor and also have in my own place. 279 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: Right. 280 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: Oh amazing. So back to the first goal, becoming a husband. 281 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned that one of the challenges with having Asperger's 282 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: is to be able to express yourself in social context 283 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: the way that you might like to and that that 284 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: had been hard when you were trying to find a 285 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: partner before the show. How did being on the show 286 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: change that? Did you learn a lot of things? You 287 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: got to chat to some amazing people. 288 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: It just basically gave me opportunities to meet you people, 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: and it made me led to me making friends outside 290 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: the show and also maybe decide the kind of things 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: I would like a woman. 292 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: What are those things? 293 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, she basically has to be a beautiful, loving woman 294 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: with a pure heart to come from a good family, 295 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: and she also has to handle being an actor's wife. 296 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: If she can't, that's kind of a deal breaker. 297 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: It is a deal breaker, right, And how do you? 298 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the world has fallen in 299 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: love with you because you were very smooth on some of. 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: Your dates that you went on the show. 301 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: What were some of your favorite memories from being on 302 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: the show. 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: Being Dawn Wells was the biggest highlight? 304 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I loved that episode. She signed your book, didn't she. 305 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: She did, yes, but that was actually a cookbook that 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: she published back in nineteen ninety three. Wow, I bought 307 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: it secondhand on eBay. 308 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: Really well, now you could sell it with her signature. 309 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Ah, that's not going to happen. 310 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: So some really cool things have happened to you since 311 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: being on the show, not only being out of practice dating, 312 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: but also you've been interviewed by Ellen, and only the 313 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: most famous people in the world get to go on Allen. 314 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: What was that like? 315 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: That was quite an honor. Even my mother was outside 316 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: my quarters this room, getting all excited like a fifteen 317 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: year old woman. Unsurprisingly, I was composed the whole time, 318 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: so composed. That's because I also want to make celebrities 319 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: be aware that there are some people in the world 320 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: that are already aware that that celebrities aren't gods. They're 321 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: just normal people like the rest of us. But if 322 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: I ever did encounter celebrity in the streets, instead of 323 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: asking for an autograph or a selfie, what I'd rather 324 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: do is preferably have a meal with them and get 325 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: to know them what they're like offscreen, absolutely, and not 326 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: ask them for any favors. 327 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: Yes. 328 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that's why you have such a great podcast, 329 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Because you have I've been able to get a lot 330 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: of celebrities on the show, big famous celebrities, but you're 331 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: so interested in who they are. You don't go straight 332 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: to the normal questions that they get. You have really 333 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: meaningful conversations and they relax. They sound like they relax 334 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: with you very quickly. 335 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: And what kind of questions normal questions? Did you mean? 336 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I just think that it's beautiful that you know, you 337 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: made them really relaxed. Do you ask them about what 338 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: it was like behind the scenes. You didn't ask them 339 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: really gushy questions like what's it like being famous? Or 340 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, you seem very cool. Do you ever get nervous? 341 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: Nope? Really I just feel excited and on it. 342 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: What about before the TV show? Did you watch the show? 343 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Did you watch yourself back? 344 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Yes? I did, but it kind of felt weird because 345 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of weird watching yourself on screen. 346 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: What did it feel like? 347 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: It was kind of cringing a lot because it was new. Yeah. 348 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: Did you feel better in season two? Were you more 349 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: familiar with watching yourself? 350 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: For? 351 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Not really more familiar, but I sometimes tend to what 352 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 2: others think, because I'm sensitive to the feelings of others. 353 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: Yes, it stands out that you're very empathetic. 354 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when I'm around women, because they're extremely sentimental. 355 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: Why do you think you would make a great husband? 356 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: Because I don't drink, I don't gamble, I don't smoke, 357 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: I don't take drugs. I save my money, I use 358 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: it wisely, and because my father raised me to be 359 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: a gentleman, both my parents did, and because I have chivalry. 360 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Apparently, yes, you do. What do you mean apparently? Have 361 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: people told you that? 362 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just rather be humble about it rather than 363 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: making it sound like it like it's boastful. 364 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're very humble. Given that you have 365 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: fans from all over the world. The most recent episode 366 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: on your podcast, I heard there was a fan from 367 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Germany who wrote you a letter. 368 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't say wrote a letter. They just send 369 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: me an email. 370 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: Oh that's similar, Yeah it is, but the more modern way. 371 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: Right. What would you say is your ideal date. 373 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: Basically having a beautiful dinner somewhere fancy and go borom 374 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: dancing afterwards bom dancing, and then spend some alone time 375 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: together after that amazing. 376 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, I've also heard, because you are so humble and 377 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: you are very chivalrous, that you tend to play down 378 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of your achievements as well. But I want 379 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: to hear what are some of the things you've been 380 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: able to achieve since the show? 381 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: Well has ellen, of course huge, and I've had fans 382 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: on Instagram messaging me saying they've wanted to send me gifts, 383 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, crystals shirts. I know, it's. 384 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: So cool. 385 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: I kiss it. 386 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: And you're still in Wollongong. 387 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: Yep, still living in Wollongong. 388 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful part of the world. I love Wollongong. 389 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: I suppose it is, but I've also somewhat outgrown it 390 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: a bit. 391 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: Yes, well you are mister a plus. 392 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: Now whereabouts are you based in Melbourne? Oh? Melbourne, But I. 393 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: Come to Sydney. My best friend lives in Sydney and 394 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: every now and then we'll go for a little road trip, 395 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, into New South Wales. And I've spent some 396 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: time in Wollongong because it's such a beautiful part of 397 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the world. 398 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: I didn't see you there, though, I was very disappointed. 399 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: When was this it was alone before the show, it 400 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: was a long time since I've. 401 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: Been I was a nobody back then. 402 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't think you were a nobody. How has it 403 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: changed you? 404 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of exposed me a lot more in Australia 405 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: but also around the world, and now I've finally become 406 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: somebody that women want to take notice of. 407 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 3: They do. Do you like that? 408 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: Yes? But before the show, they most likely would not 409 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: have had any interest whatsoever. 410 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't watch the show, I've recommended it 411 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: actually on this show as a source of ya for particularly, 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: we've had a bit of a hard few years and 413 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: you bring so much positivity and warmth and your show 414 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: brings a lot of joy and yay to people. But 415 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, why do you 416 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: think it's a really special show? Why do you think 417 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: it went so well around the world? 418 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: Mostly because it's very different to The Bachelor and Mardi First, 419 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: Silent Love, Islent all those shows. This show wasn't done 420 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: for drama. This was done authentically. 421 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I think personally I didn't necessarily understand the variety 422 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: and the diversity of how autism can manifest and how 423 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: differently it impacts people. But also I think humanized and 424 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: normalized people who aren't neurotypical and made the mainstream, you know, 425 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: the mainstream media kind of help us all understand. Are 426 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: there any ways that you think people misunderstood aspergers before 427 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: that they now understand better. 428 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. Actually, not really an expert on that. 429 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you an expert on? Then let's talk 430 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: about things that make you? 431 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: YEA, maybe Gilligan's Island. 432 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: I've heard that. 433 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: And you dressed up as someone from Gilligan's Island for 434 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Comic Con? 435 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Is that right? That's called Super and Over? And I 436 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: was dressed as the skipper right as a tribute to 437 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: the to the actor who played in Rip, and also 438 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: because dorn Wells and that actor Alan Hale Jr. They 439 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: were very close in reality. And he reminded both me 440 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: and her of our dads. 441 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: What do your parents think about you being famous? 442 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: They're actually all cool with it? Are they? 443 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: Do they get stopped in the street? Like, oh, you're 444 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: Michael's parents. 445 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: Actually, my mother gets stopped on occasion, but I get 446 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: stopped more than they do. Right, my dad is more 447 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: of a private person. Okay, he's kind of camera shy 448 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: as well, is he? Yeah? 449 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: Do they share your love for Brooklyn ninety nine, and 450 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: do you guys watch this set? 451 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 5: Really? 452 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: So you do watch it by yourself? 453 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 454 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: Oh no. 455 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: And also I'm one of the few people in this 456 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: world that doesn't use streaming services. I'm one of the 457 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: few people that still uses a DVD player. 458 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: I heard that, Oh my gosh, and you're waiting what 459 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: was I listening to? You were waiting for something new 460 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: to come out on DVD. You hadn't watched the latest season, 461 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: and I think, Chelsea PERETTI couldn't believe that you still 462 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: have a DVD player. 463 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: Actually that was the eighth season I was waiting on. 464 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: But I finally but I've finally seen it. 465 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk Brooklyn nine nine because this is it's 466 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: my favorite show. Okay, what is your favorite episode? 467 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: I don't really have a favorite episode. A lot of 468 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: them are great. 469 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what do you think is the scene 470 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: you're the best at replicating? I want to see your 471 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: acting skills come out in this episode? 472 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: Please? 473 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: Okay. There was one called Return of the King, which 474 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: was directed by Melissa Fumero. If I do an impression 475 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: of Terry Jeffers, I'm not going to sound exactly like him, 476 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: because that could be taken the wrong way. Gina became 477 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: an internet celebrity and she hadn't spoken to anyone from 478 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: the Nine to nine in months, But Jake got a 479 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: call from her out of the blue, and Terry became 480 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: suspicious of her motives. 481 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: Ah, I remember this one when she. 482 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Asked them they want to hang out a bar and 483 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: have drinks together. That night, Terry and Jake had a 484 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: conversation like this. Sorry, I gotta say I'm surprised Gina 485 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: invited us to drinks tonight. She obviously only invited us 486 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: over to a place because she needed a favor. Why 487 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: are you still so down on her? I've been through 488 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: this before. In college, I had a football buddy, Bryan Ungerbirt. 489 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Let me guess you guys were best friends. Then he 490 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: got drafted into the NFL and now you never talk. 491 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: No. 492 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: He got drafted into the Canadian Football League, became a 493 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: long snapper for Ottawa and even that level success ruined 494 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: our friendship. He's still playing. How is that possible you're 495 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: thirty five to sixty years old. It's Canada. They don't 496 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: tackles hard and anyway, his career became the only thing 497 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: that mattered. He was offering photo shoots, commercials, speaking at 498 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: long snapping conventions? Is that a thing in Canada? Is 499 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: like the Oskers? Look, the point is he stopped making 500 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: time for his friends. Right, fine, but that's not what's 501 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: happening here. Nothing has changed of Genus. She's not an Ungerbert. 502 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: Did you do that whole thing without a script in 503 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: front of you? 504 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: Yep? 505 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: How do you remember that? 506 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I just watched that scene a few times and it 507 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: just sinks in. 508 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: That is amazing. 509 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: But if you really want to see my acting skills, 510 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: I got to show what else I can do. I 511 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: er that film The Grinch with Jim Carrey. I sure 512 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: do mind if I do something like that, please do 513 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: it all right. I'm also gotta do one from a 514 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: Bug's Life as well, if I. 515 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: May, absolutely. Okay, Okay, I'm ready, Of course they are. 516 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. 517 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: Is that's what it's always been about. Gifts, gifts, give 518 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: us the stuff diffs. You want to know what happens 519 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 5: to your gifts? They all come to me in your garbage. 520 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying? 521 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: In your garbage? I gona hang much over all the 522 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 6: bad Christmas Necktars. I found the dump and the Averdice, 523 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: the Averice Neverlands. 524 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: I want diamonds. I want to golf clmbs. I want 525 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: a diamonds. I want to ponies. I can run it twice, 526 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: get bored, sell it to make glue, look out and 527 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: make waves. 528 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 6: But it's whole Christmas seasons, stupid stoop patch. 529 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: There is, however, one deany tiny Christmas tradition I find 530 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: quite meaningful. Misshoot Now poker up and cut. Oh my gosh, 531 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: that was so good. Now I can do another one 532 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: of him if. 533 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: I'm not absolutely this is the best. Is bringing me 534 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: so much yay? 535 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: No for those who's in finding me down there, I'm 536 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: short nourish. Even if I wanted to go, my schedule 537 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: would allow it. Four o'clock Wallow and self pity. Four 538 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: point thirty stand in to the Abyss. Five o'clock Solve 539 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: World Hunger, Tell No. One five point thirty Jesi size 540 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: six point thirty dealer with me. I can't cancel that again. 541 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: Seven o'clock wrestle myself loading a boot of above the 542 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: loading toon nine of the land Badgtore. The Sheilinger slips 543 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: slowly into madness. 544 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: How do you remember all of those lines? 545 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Like I said, watch it a few times and then 546 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: it sinks in. 547 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: You're going to make the most amazing actor because they 548 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: will won't even have to give you a script. They'll 549 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: just give it to you once, or they'll play it 550 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: to you once and then you'll just remember it. 551 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: I'm also able to improvise as well. 552 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: Really do you do improv classes or do you just 553 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: improvise by yourself? 554 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Not really by myself? And I just you remember when 555 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned the bugs life? Yeah? Mind, If I do 556 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: an impression of Hopper, please do because I want to 557 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: show the audience what I can really also do as well. Absolutely, 558 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: they've always seen me as formal and professional, but I 559 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: want to show them what I can also do. But 560 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that this monologue 561 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: will will sound very angry and probably pretty harsh. 562 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Okay, mind, if I do it, I'd love to see it. 563 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: You let one an stand up to then they all 564 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: might stand up. Those puny little ants out number us 565 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: one hundred to one, and if they ever figure that out, 566 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: there goes our way of life. It's not about food, 567 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: It's about keeping those ants in line. That's why we're 568 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: going back? Does anybody else want to stay? How was 569 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: that so good? 570 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: It's like you go into character and then your facial expressions, 571 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: the voice, the tone, everything changes. Yeah, just like that though, 572 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: and then you just come back out of it. 573 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: It's it's nothing. 574 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Did you do classes like it? 575 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: To have you? 576 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: Always? 577 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: What? 578 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: No? But do this? Ever? Since I was a kid 579 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: really private at home, I know. 580 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: You just practiced. Is that how you? Because you're doing 581 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: different characters straight after each other. 582 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: Now I want to do another impression, and I want 583 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: you to tell me how harsh this one really is? Okay, 584 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: I want you to tell me. Okay, sure, leaves over, 585 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: get your sorry carcasses on board. Now how harsh was that? 586 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: Oh? My god? 587 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: You should see the audio blowing out. That's how angry 588 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: it is. It's like, rah, it is, but in a 589 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: good way. Oh my gosh. So how did you start 590 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: doing these impressions? Did you just pick shows that you 591 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: liked and characters that you like and then. 592 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: Practice their voice? 593 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? Of course. 594 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: How did it begin? Was it with Thomas the Tank? 595 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: Was that your first one? 596 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Well? That was like one of the first shows I 597 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: started watching it when I was a kid. I was 598 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: three years old at the time, so three yeah, so 599 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: that's now twenty five years. 600 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: There was a new one though, wasn't There was there 601 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: a new Thomas Thomas and Friends that came out. 602 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: Actually that's the original show. Now there's a reboot, which 603 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: in my book is terrible. 604 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Okay, you're a purist. Do you like the original versions? 605 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: Yes? Just like with Disney films, the remaining to say, 606 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: to capture the authenticity and the purity and the wholesomeness 607 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: of the originals. 608 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: Can I agree? I agree? 609 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: I am like original The Lion King, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, 610 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: all of those. I don't want the remake. I'm sure 611 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: they're great, but the original in two D with a 612 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, all the characters look like one pixel. I 613 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: don't care love. 614 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: It, although with the Disney films, are not really too 615 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: interested in The Little Mermaid. 616 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: What are your favorite Disney films? 617 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: Alison won Land one hundred and one Dalmatians. Oh, I 618 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: love that one. Who doesn't It's so good? Even The Beast, Aladdin, 619 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: The Lion King, Tangled, both Frozen films because I'm actually 620 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: quite a closet fan of them. 621 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: Frozen, I feel like is new generation, though it's recent, 622 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: isn't it. 623 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're in the closet about it. You don't 624 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: tell people. 625 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well sort of because it's not exactly something a 626 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: man would watch. 627 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what, though, I feel like you've taught 628 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: me a lot about masculinity through watching the show. 629 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 630 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people around the world have 631 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: seen a real gentleman in you in a way that 632 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: they don't see on other dating shows, and it's very refreshing. 633 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Thanks. And I also learned something as well. If a 634 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: man says to a woman, we'll talk about it later, 635 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: do you know what he actually means? 636 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: What does he mean? 637 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: That's more of a man's way of saying I don't 638 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: want to talk about it at all. Ever. 639 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: Again, I'm slowly learning that. 640 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 2: But also the other thing is a lot of some 641 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: men just can't be bothered putting in at least five 642 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: or ten minutes to listen to their permit to what 643 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: she has to say is probably important. 644 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Anyway, I think you would be a very good listener 645 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: as a partner, a very good listener. But she would 646 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: have to like Disney films, though. 647 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: Obviously not necessarily. 648 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Really, that's not a deal breaker, no is acting. She'd 649 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: have to be able to listen to your impressions. 650 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Though, Well, if she doesn't like or appreciate my acting work, 651 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: that's kind of a turnoff. 652 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. If you could date a Disney princess, 653 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: who would you date? 654 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: Uh that's a bit of a tough one. 655 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: It's hard. They're all amazing, But. 656 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: Most likely I would probably choose Anna. 657 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: Really, yep, there you go. 658 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: I would have thought like Jasmine or Belle Belle so sweet? 659 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 660 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: Do you sing the songs or do you just do? 661 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: Do you do any Disney impressions? 662 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: Depends I well, depends on the characters. But I am 663 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: surprisingly able to do guests on. 664 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: I think, please do show. 665 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: But I don't share his views though. 666 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good distinction. He's a bit of he's 667 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily very fuorous. 668 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: You're right, Okay, said this to Belle. Picture this a 669 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: rusty canning lodge, my latest kill roasting on the fire, 670 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 2: my little wife massaging my feet. Well, the little ones 671 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: play on the floor with the dogs. We will have 672 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: six or seven. I remember that saying she thought he 673 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: meant dogs, but he was like, no bell strapping boys 674 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: like me. 675 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: That light was so good, it was Yes, I remember 676 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: that part of the movie so distinctly, and her face 677 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: is going when he goes and you can massage my feet, 678 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: and her face goes. 679 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: Oh, six or seven sons, Oh, i'ld hate that? 680 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: Would you like kids? 681 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: I've never really dreamed of being a father, but I 682 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: am kind of open to it. 683 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: But not six or seven. That's too many. 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My favorites are the 698 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: Golden Hour Brightening Vitamin C Serum, Bondai Babe purifying clay mask, 699 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: especially with all the travel and makeup at work at 700 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: the moment, and most importantly, there's Sunny Days hydrating SPF 701 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: fifty plus moisturizer. Suncare is so incredibly important for our 702 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: skin as we all know. I'll pop the link in 703 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the show notes for you to check it out. So 704 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: for anyone else out there who is looking for love 705 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: and who maybe watched Love on the Spectrum and loved 706 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: watching you date and figure out what you love in 707 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: a partner and what you don't like in a partner, 708 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: do you have any advice on dating and finding love. 709 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, don't give up. And if you have an opportunity 710 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: to meet somebody or go on a day with someone, 711 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: take it. See what they're like, test the waters, see 712 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: what they like as people. But don't be hasty enough 713 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: to rush into things. Just give people a chance and 714 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: just enjoy yourselves as well. 715 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: And what about people who have big goals like starting 716 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: a podcast or being an actor and maybe face some 717 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: obstacles of people either underestimating you because of ours spurgers 718 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: or I think a lot of us face barriers in 719 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: different way to our confidence. But you've obviously gone on 720 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: and even though one of the challenges for you has 721 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: been social skills, you've had some amazing conversations on your show. 722 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: Well with this, with the podcasting and acting thing. I 723 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: don't really have much advice because I didn't work for 724 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: ane of those things. They just came. 725 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: Well, you're very good at them. 726 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: Thanks. 727 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: Was it a goal to have a podcast? 728 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 2: No, it was really well, my agent asked me. Well, 729 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: she simply said to me that a lot of other 730 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: people wanted to get me on their podcast because of 731 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: Love and the Spectrum, and then she asked me, why 732 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: don't you have your own that I thought about it 733 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: for quite a few weeks, and so maybe I should. 734 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: I think you're very good at it, particularly since it 735 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: wasn't on the cards, like you didn't train for it 736 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: or prepare for it. 737 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, the best thing about being a podcaster is just 738 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: interview your guests as casually but also with some formality 739 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: as well, and also make it a safe space where 740 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: they can feel comfort and that words are welcome. 741 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 3: That's excellent advice, but. 742 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: Also just be mindful of what you say on podcasts. 743 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it comes with some responsibility and also knowing that 744 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: the episodes will be online forever. Maybe you know you 745 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: do have to create a safe space for people. 746 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 2: And if you have producers that work with you on 747 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: the podcast, show them that you appreciate the hard work. Absolutely, 748 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: And because I'm not a one man crew. 749 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 3: There's a whole mister, A plus team, isn't there. 750 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it wasn't for them, the podcast would never 751 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: have been possible. 752 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: You said to Stephanie Beatrice, I think that you would 753 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: love to have the whole cast of Brooklyn nine nine 754 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: and Sophia Vegara on the show. Who's your dream guest list? 755 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 2: Well, I want to interview all the cast members of 756 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: my favorite shows, but also my dream male guest is 757 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: Mark Evan Jackson. 758 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: Who's that I heard of him? 759 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh? For God's sake, why do some people not know 760 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: who he is? 761 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: Maybe if he went on your podcast, we would all 762 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: know who he is. 763 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. You've seen Brooklyn, you've 764 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: seen Brooklyn nine nine. You know who Kevin Costner is, 765 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: then you should know who Mark Evan Jackson is. 766 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: Who is Mark Evin Jackson. 767 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: He plays Kevin Cosser for God's. 768 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: Sake, oh in nine nine. Yes, Oh, my gosh, of 769 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: course I know him. So he's he's your ultimate male 770 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: guest you'd love on the show. 771 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, he's one of my biggest inspirations for comedy. Wow, 772 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: because his voice is so dry, dead pan and flat. 773 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: Un Like my dad, he is very dead pan. 774 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: He's so funny when he speaks to Holt, Captain Holt, Raymond, 775 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: can you please do your impression? 776 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: I think you did it for me before. 777 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: Sure, Look Raymond a yellow christ support. Look. 778 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: Oh they're so funny. They're such a good couple. 779 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: Yes they are. 780 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: You also spoke to Stephanie a lot. She really opened 781 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: up to you about coming at as bisexual, and obviously 782 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: Raymond Holt and Kevin Costner. 783 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: Are a gay couple. 784 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I think that's also a point of difference that people 785 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: are learning to celebrate rather than suppress. How do you 786 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: create a safe space for people on your show? 787 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: Well, I might have said this before, but I actually 788 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: support the LGBT community because they deserve rights, they deserve 789 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: to be treated equally, and it's not going to be 790 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: ashamed about. In fact, I'm actually friends with some people 791 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: that are part of that community. 792 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 3: Like Stephanie is a friend of yours. Now I think. 793 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: I would say so. In fact, I'm actually also feel 794 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: a fan of Encanto. 795 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 3: Yes, she did the voice, didn't she for one of 796 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: the main character. 797 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: Yep, she did. 798 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 4: That's so cool. 799 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: In fact, not only does she have a Colombian background, 800 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: but also Sophia Viagara does. Of course, her character on 801 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: Modern Family always reminds me of my mother. 802 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, oh my gosh. 803 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: You should imagine if you could get her on the podcast, 804 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: what would you ask her? 805 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: Pretty much Rea sent all the questions to what I 806 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: asked my guests, but also take that opportunity to introduce 807 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: her to my mother. 808 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 3: Right, do you think they get along? 809 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Yep? Then I would say to my mother, now I 810 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 2: can finally put my case to sleep. 811 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 812 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: Well, as you know the name of this podcast is 813 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: the which is a play on Caesar Day. So sort 814 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: of swapping, yeah, swapping the normal metrics that a lot 815 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: of people measure their lives on, like success or money 816 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: or milestones and goals, which are important. But I think 817 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: joy and fulfillment and whether you're happy and healthy and 818 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: have loved ones around you is much more important in life. 819 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, but money is also important because money 820 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: is a tool. Money is what we need to pay bills, 821 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: put food on the table, and afford things that we 822 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: need and also want for personal pleasure. Money doesn't buy everything. 823 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: It just buys the things that we need need to afford. 824 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 2: Money is just a tool. That's it. 825 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: That's so true. It's not your value. 826 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: It's not a reflection of your worth or and it's 827 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: also not It doesn't equal happiness. I think some people 828 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: think it will bring them joy on its own. 829 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: For rich men, money means power, But for someone like myself, 830 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: money means security and thus securing my chances of settling 831 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: down with a woman. 832 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and finding your person. 833 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: Exactly, because if I don't have money, how am I 834 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 2: supposed to provide for my wife, let alone kids. 835 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 3: And especially if there's six or seven. 836 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be a terrible provider, not to mention a 837 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: crap husband and also a crap father. 838 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: You will be a wonderful husband and a wonderful father. Well, 839 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: I think you would. 840 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: Because if I'm ever going to be a father, I 841 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: want the best for my kids like my father did. Yeah. 842 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: So I think one thing that because money is a 843 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: bit of a distraction. I think it distracts people in 844 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: society quite a bit. 845 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: It does. 846 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 3: What advice do you have? 847 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: You're very clear on what you're passionate about and what 848 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: brings you yay. A lot of people don't know what 849 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: makes them happy. They're so distracted that they don't even 850 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: know what they like and they can't find their passion 851 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: and they're unhappy in their job. And you know, this 852 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: podcast for me is having conversations with people who know 853 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: what makes them yay and how they got there to 854 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: inspire others. What advice do you have? How do you 855 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: find what makes you passionate? How do you make time 856 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: for your hobbies and what makes you passionate? 857 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: Let me put it this way, you can't prioritize your 858 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: work life. You need to have a work life balance. 859 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: Another important thing is you still need to make time 860 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: for your family and friends even when you are busy, 861 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 2: because family and friendships are both important, but also rent 862 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: these days is ridiculously expensive. And look at me. I'm 863 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: twenty eight now and I still live in my parents 864 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: even though it makes me feel like I'm still behind 865 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: in life, but people around me have told me that 866 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 2: it's nothing to be embarrassed about. 867 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 868 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: And if you want to know what you're passionate about, 869 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: just search your heart and see what you love to 870 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: do and what you love. 871 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 3: That's amazing advice. 872 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 2: For example, if you're to give a speech at a wedding, 873 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: don't write a rehearse speech. Just search your heart and 874 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: say what you're feeling. 875 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you touched on feeling behind, and I 876 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: think that also distracts people a lot from joy because 877 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: they feel like they've got to hustle all the time 878 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: and never rest and never make time for happiness. 879 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: But that's a ridiculous way to live, isn't it. Life 880 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: is not a race. Life is a journey. Life is 881 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: like a book. Chapters are like years, pages are like months, 882 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: and paragraphs are like days in a week. 883 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 3: That's such a beautiful analogy. I've never heard anyone say that. 884 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: And a sentence in a paragraph is like maybe an 885 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 2: hour of a day. 886 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 3: Oh, that was beautiful, Michael. 887 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: People should start looking at life is like a book. 888 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I'm so grateful for your time. That was 889 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: the most beautiful quote to end on. I usually ask 890 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: people for their favorite quote, but I feel like that 891 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: was a beautiful quote. Your own quote was more beautiful 892 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: than any quote than you could pick. 893 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 894 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: Is there anything you would like to leave the audience 895 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: with about seizing your yea or finding your joy? 896 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: All I can say is don't always put work first 897 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: time for your family and friends even when you are busy, 898 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: because that's what I do. And make time for yourself 899 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: as well. You can't spend your whole life being a 900 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: people pleaser because it's just not possible. And in the 901 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: world of dating, when you get yourself the best catch, 902 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: do not throw him or her back. Cherish your partner, 903 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: show them every day how much you love and care 904 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: for them. Don't tell them, show them, whether it's making 905 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 2: them a meal, or taking them out somewhere, or giving 906 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: them a gift of some sort anything. And in life, 907 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: always stay safe, take care of yourself and always stay 908 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: true to yourself as well. Don't try to be something 909 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: or not, but also chase your dreams if you have them. 910 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: Don't let anyone stand between you and your destiny. And 911 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: also very importantly, live life to the fullest the best 912 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 2: you can. Amazing, but working in hustling all the time 913 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: is not going to cut it. 914 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: You're right well that was just a beautiful way to end. 915 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: I think everyone should watch Love on the Spectrum if 916 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: they haven't or listened to mister A Plus. I'll make 917 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: sure to put the links to your podcast in the 918 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: show notes. Is there anything else coming up that we 919 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: should look out for from you? Or just follow the 920 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: podcast and see what. 921 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: You're up to. 922 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 2: Well, just keep following the podcast because there'll be episodes 923 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 2: released every week, no question, no doubt. And I'm still 924 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 2: pursuing acting as a career. That's one of my biggest 925 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: goals for this year. And there is something going on 926 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: in the pipeline, but I can't really reveal too much 927 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 2: at the moment. 928 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 3: Well, that's exciting. 929 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 2: But in the very near future, I do intend to 930 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: visit England. 931 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 3: England that you're obsessed with. 932 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh, how exciting have you been before? 933 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: Uh? 934 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 4: No, oh, it's amazing. 935 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: My mum is the same as you, obsessed with England, 936 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: Obsessed everything English. She goes once a year. She saves 937 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: all her money to be in England once a year, 938 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: and she just it's like in another life she lived 939 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: there or something. She just feels at home there. She 940 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: loves the culture, the history, the Royals. She loves the 941 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: Royal family. We have English tea, we have everything is English. 942 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 3: She's obsessed. So I hope you have the most amazing time. 943 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah, and hopefully i'll meet a woman there. 944 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: Imagine a British wife for you. 945 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 2: Yep, an English rose An English. 946 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 3: It's all right. 947 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: Well, we've all got our fingers and toast cross for you. 948 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining. This was absolutely wonderful. 949 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure, Sarah. Thank you for inviting me. I 950 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. 951 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: Michael truly is a special soul and what a wonderful 952 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: person to help shift societal misconceptions about mirror diversity. It 953 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: was a real privilege he said yes to jumping on 954 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: the show. So if you enjoyed listening, please do take 955 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: a screenshot right now, Do it now and share particularly 956 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: this month and tag at mister A plus Michael all 957 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: with hyphens in between each word, to thank him for 958 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: his time and wisdom, and to keep growing the neighborhood 959 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,720 Speaker 1: as far and wide as possible. I always forget to ask, 960 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: or even when I remember, it is so awkward. But 961 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: if you haven't yet and feel like drawing me a 962 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: belated birthday present. Reviews are really what helps us keep 963 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: getting guests like Michael, so please do take a second, 964 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, to leave one on the Apple 965 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: podcast app if it feels right. We've got so much 966 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: lined up in the coming week, so I cannot wait 967 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: to share with you guys, And in the meantime, I 968 00:49:41,600 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: hope you're seizing your yay e