1 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,664 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,704 --> 00:00:29,984 Speaker 2: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney, 5 00:00:30,064 --> 00:00:32,024 Speaker 2: I'm Kelly McCarran, and I'm glad you hear for a 6 00:00:32,024 --> 00:00:35,144 Speaker 2: Friday show because these are our loosest, our chattiest, I'm saying, 7 00:00:35,144 --> 00:00:35,664 Speaker 2: most fun. 8 00:00:36,264 --> 00:00:38,064 Speaker 3: Well, it's also the most fun to listen to when 9 00:00:38,104 --> 00:00:39,424 Speaker 3: you want recommendations for things. 10 00:00:39,584 --> 00:00:40,344 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 11 00:00:40,424 --> 00:00:42,744 Speaker 2: So, Emily Vernon is nearly off her deathbed and she 12 00:00:42,784 --> 00:00:44,944 Speaker 2: will be back next week. But you know you couldn't 13 00:00:44,944 --> 00:00:45,704 Speaker 2: miss a Friday show. 14 00:00:45,784 --> 00:00:46,224 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 15 00:00:46,224 --> 00:00:49,664 Speaker 2: I couldn't, especially today because we are talking about the 16 00:00:49,824 --> 00:00:53,024 Speaker 2: ultimate comfort shows hooked off a very special event that 17 00:00:53,064 --> 00:00:56,264 Speaker 2: has recently happened. And don't worry, we are doing weekend Watch. 18 00:00:56,304 --> 00:00:58,064 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk to you about some new releases. 19 00:00:58,424 --> 00:01:01,664 Speaker 3: But first, so, the met Gala is still over six 20 00:01:01,904 --> 00:01:05,224 Speaker 3: months away. But it takes time, money, and a whole 21 00:01:05,264 --> 00:01:08,064 Speaker 3: lot of planning to make Hollywood's most ridiculous night of 22 00:01:08,144 --> 00:01:11,544 Speaker 3: nights run smoothly. Plus it probably takes six months for 23 00:01:11,624 --> 00:01:14,624 Speaker 3: some of the outfits to be constructed for everyone's favorite 24 00:01:14,664 --> 00:01:15,864 Speaker 3: real life Hunger Games. 25 00:01:16,464 --> 00:01:18,144 Speaker 1: So the theme of next year's. 26 00:01:17,984 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 3: Met Gala and the exhibition is super Fine Tailoring Black 27 00:01:22,144 --> 00:01:25,784 Speaker 3: Style that was announced yesterday. It is based on Professor 28 00:01:25,864 --> 00:01:29,624 Speaker 3: Monica L. Miller's two thousand and nine book Slaves to Fashion. 29 00:01:29,944 --> 00:01:33,264 Speaker 3: A dandy was a term used to describe someone historically 30 00:01:33,264 --> 00:01:37,264 Speaker 3: a man who takes great pride in their style, So 31 00:01:37,424 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 3: think suits, blazers, and timeless men's fashion, very dapper and dandy. 32 00:01:42,744 --> 00:01:46,984 Speaker 3: So in the eighteenth century, the emerging consumerist culture mixed 33 00:01:46,984 --> 00:01:50,624 Speaker 3: in with that dandy aesthetic saw dandyism being imposed on 34 00:01:50,664 --> 00:01:53,824 Speaker 3: black men in Europe caught up in the slave trade. 35 00:01:53,904 --> 00:01:56,424 Speaker 3: As a result, there was a trend of dandified servants 36 00:01:56,424 --> 00:02:00,384 Speaker 3: throughout the eighteenth century. So there's a lot of culture 37 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:05,184 Speaker 3: and history behind it. And bringing that black dandyism to 38 00:02:05,224 --> 00:02:07,704 Speaker 3: the forefront of the Met Gala highlights the gray area 39 00:02:07,784 --> 00:02:11,584 Speaker 3: between black excellence and being hyper visible on the red 40 00:02:11,584 --> 00:02:16,664 Speaker 3: carpet while simultaneously receiving a lack of acknowledgment in institutions. 41 00:02:16,384 --> 00:02:16,904 Speaker 1: Like the Met. 42 00:02:17,584 --> 00:02:21,144 Speaker 3: The Met Gala curator Andrew Bolton is particularly excited, saying 43 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:23,624 Speaker 3: that he thinks the twenty twenty five Metgala will go 44 00:02:23,664 --> 00:02:26,704 Speaker 3: down in history because I feel that the show itself 45 00:02:26,744 --> 00:02:30,384 Speaker 3: marks a really important step in our commitment to diversifying 46 00:02:30,424 --> 00:02:34,144 Speaker 3: our exhibitions and collections as well as redressing some of 47 00:02:34,184 --> 00:02:37,224 Speaker 3: the historical biases. I would really love your input to 48 00:02:37,224 --> 00:02:39,344 Speaker 3: help me unpack this because we live in the age 49 00:02:39,384 --> 00:02:42,584 Speaker 3: of the Internet like never before, so wealth and privilege 50 00:02:42,624 --> 00:02:46,464 Speaker 3: for this select few are in such stark contrast with 51 00:02:46,704 --> 00:02:48,824 Speaker 3: the war and world events that are playing out on 52 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:50,904 Speaker 3: our phone in real time. So we used to sort 53 00:02:50,944 --> 00:02:54,704 Speaker 3: of be able to enjoy that escapism of celebrity to 54 00:02:54,904 --> 00:02:57,144 Speaker 3: a bigger degree, like because it was so firmly as 55 00:02:57,224 --> 00:02:59,224 Speaker 3: you were saying the other day, it was like they're 56 00:02:59,264 --> 00:03:02,064 Speaker 3: just the celebrities over there doing their thing, and we 57 00:03:02,144 --> 00:03:04,744 Speaker 3: don't really know or see about the other stuff. Well 58 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:07,824 Speaker 3: we do, but we don't see playing out in real 59 00:03:07,864 --> 00:03:10,824 Speaker 3: time on our phone. And I think that the culture 60 00:03:10,864 --> 00:03:15,064 Speaker 3: shift really came this year. I'd never seen commentary like it. 61 00:03:15,464 --> 00:03:15,624 Speaker 4: Then. 62 00:03:15,664 --> 00:03:17,664 Speaker 3: It was Megala this year, like you know, Zen Day 63 00:03:17,824 --> 00:03:19,304 Speaker 3: having second outfit change. 64 00:03:19,344 --> 00:03:20,904 Speaker 1: How much are the tickets? Absolutely? 65 00:03:20,904 --> 00:03:22,144 Speaker 2: I think I have to buy a whole table and 66 00:03:22,184 --> 00:03:24,664 Speaker 2: it's one thousands and thousands and thousands, well over one 67 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:28,144 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars from memory, So that was going around 68 00:03:28,184 --> 00:03:29,424 Speaker 2: and it's like that's on your phone. 69 00:03:29,464 --> 00:03:32,384 Speaker 3: Then there's a bomb being blown up. Then I mean 70 00:03:32,464 --> 00:03:34,544 Speaker 3: at the moment you go on and there's like an 71 00:03:34,704 --> 00:03:38,624 Speaker 3: entire town being flooded. Then you're scrolling on and oh, 72 00:03:38,664 --> 00:03:41,864 Speaker 3: this person didn't get invited, and this person's making silly 73 00:03:41,904 --> 00:03:44,184 Speaker 3: posts about this, and then there's a beheaded baby, and 74 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:48,744 Speaker 3: it's like, never before has your phone been so full 75 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:51,344 Speaker 3: of everything that's happening in the world in real time, 76 00:03:51,424 --> 00:03:55,544 Speaker 3: and never before has there been such the stark contrast 77 00:03:56,144 --> 00:04:00,464 Speaker 3: between the celebrity and the wealth and then the reality 78 00:04:00,504 --> 00:04:04,104 Speaker 3: of the real world. And it's very hard to stomach. 79 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:07,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's interesting because it's not a new thing 80 00:04:07,344 --> 00:04:09,744 Speaker 2: at all. There's this huge divide in the world between 81 00:04:10,064 --> 00:04:13,744 Speaker 2: people of like extreme wealth and power and fame and 82 00:04:13,824 --> 00:04:17,024 Speaker 2: people who are living a real life and death existence 83 00:04:17,064 --> 00:04:19,584 Speaker 2: every day. That's always been the case, and it's like 84 00:04:19,704 --> 00:04:21,864 Speaker 2: just a horrible reality that we live with. But at 85 00:04:21,904 --> 00:04:23,504 Speaker 2: the same time, what you're saying now is true is 86 00:04:23,544 --> 00:04:27,264 Speaker 2: that now we have this constant feed, we watch all 87 00:04:27,304 --> 00:04:30,304 Speaker 2: these images and everything kind of pushed in together, which 88 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:31,904 Speaker 2: I almost think, like, yeah, we should kind of be 89 00:04:31,904 --> 00:04:33,384 Speaker 2: seeing because it's happening. 90 00:04:33,304 --> 00:04:35,824 Speaker 1: But otherwise we're just ignorant exactly. 91 00:04:35,944 --> 00:04:38,744 Speaker 2: But I think what the conversation was with the last 92 00:04:38,784 --> 00:04:41,664 Speaker 2: Met Gala is that we really were kind of seeing 93 00:04:41,664 --> 00:04:44,224 Speaker 2: people put those two images side by side, and like 94 00:04:44,224 --> 00:04:46,304 Speaker 2: likening it to what we're seen as a fictional world, 95 00:04:46,344 --> 00:04:50,664 Speaker 2: like the Hunger Game, like people in terms of yeah, exactly, 96 00:04:50,664 --> 00:04:52,664 Speaker 2: and then seeing these celebs I think also because like 97 00:04:53,104 --> 00:04:55,824 Speaker 2: the outfits are so opulent and over the top, but 98 00:04:55,904 --> 00:04:58,504 Speaker 2: it's such a display and extreme wealth. I think sometimes 99 00:04:58,504 --> 00:05:01,664 Speaker 2: with other award shows and events and that sort of thing, 100 00:05:01,664 --> 00:05:03,984 Speaker 2: because they are like the whole movie award aspects of 101 00:05:04,024 --> 00:05:06,944 Speaker 2: it that can dilute the story, whereas the Met Gala 102 00:05:07,024 --> 00:05:09,984 Speaker 2: has become just about what pops a wear, money and 103 00:05:10,064 --> 00:05:12,304 Speaker 2: power and all that sort of stuff. So it's even 104 00:05:12,344 --> 00:05:15,064 Speaker 2: a bigger symbol even though that's just the reality of 105 00:05:15,224 --> 00:05:16,024 Speaker 2: fame and power. 106 00:05:16,064 --> 00:05:19,144 Speaker 3: At all times, it's behind closed doors in a lot 107 00:05:19,144 --> 00:05:21,864 Speaker 3: of ways, generally though, like, of course we know that 108 00:05:21,904 --> 00:05:24,624 Speaker 3: there are rich celebrities in the world. Of course we 109 00:05:24,744 --> 00:05:26,584 Speaker 3: know that, and yes they do things like go to 110 00:05:26,584 --> 00:05:30,784 Speaker 3: the Oscars, but there's something about the MET Gala where 111 00:05:30,784 --> 00:05:35,344 Speaker 3: it is just so ostentatious and seemingly for no reason 112 00:05:35,384 --> 00:05:38,544 Speaker 3: as well. Yes it's for the museum, but like the 113 00:05:38,584 --> 00:05:40,744 Speaker 3: Oscars is about celebrating people's. 114 00:05:40,424 --> 00:05:43,464 Speaker 2: Work, yes exactly, but also people who have fame and 115 00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:47,024 Speaker 2: power through this industry that excludes people and makes money 116 00:05:47,064 --> 00:05:48,944 Speaker 2: off different ways. So it is a very fraught subject. 117 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:51,384 Speaker 2: As you're saying, I don't know. I mean, I mean, 118 00:05:51,384 --> 00:05:53,424 Speaker 2: I've seen the conversation. I know it really kicked off 119 00:05:53,424 --> 00:05:55,344 Speaker 2: with the last MET Gala, and it's reached over to 120 00:05:55,384 --> 00:05:57,184 Speaker 2: this MET Gala with the theme. 121 00:05:57,144 --> 00:05:59,104 Speaker 1: Already yeah, already months out. 122 00:05:59,184 --> 00:06:01,264 Speaker 2: Exactly because the build up to it is so intense, 123 00:06:01,704 --> 00:06:04,344 Speaker 2: and I hear people saying like, we shouldn't have this anymore, 124 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:06,944 Speaker 2: we should cancel it. And I am in a little 125 00:06:06,984 --> 00:06:09,184 Speaker 2: two minds about that game, and I don't know how 126 00:06:09,224 --> 00:06:11,744 Speaker 2: to feel well, because I think it'd be very hypocritical 127 00:06:11,744 --> 00:06:14,064 Speaker 2: of me in particular to say cancel it, don't have it. 128 00:06:14,144 --> 00:06:16,544 Speaker 1: Celebrities are the worse because. 129 00:06:16,224 --> 00:06:18,424 Speaker 2: Like, I make my money and my job, and like 130 00:06:18,464 --> 00:06:21,744 Speaker 2: the podcast I work for makes our money off talking 131 00:06:21,824 --> 00:06:23,824 Speaker 2: about this, and like, obviously you try and have these 132 00:06:23,864 --> 00:06:26,624 Speaker 2: good conversations and you try and talk about other things 133 00:06:26,624 --> 00:06:28,184 Speaker 2: to kind of balance it out. But at the end 134 00:06:28,184 --> 00:06:30,704 Speaker 2: of the day, like the met Gala gives us content 135 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:31,984 Speaker 2: and we make money off it. 136 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:35,104 Speaker 3: I also think anyone that says there shouldn't be any celebrities, well, 137 00:06:35,104 --> 00:06:36,904 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. There will always be celebrities. 138 00:06:36,984 --> 00:06:38,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's as easy to say, like 139 00:06:38,424 --> 00:06:40,184 Speaker 2: we should abolish this system when it will. 140 00:06:40,064 --> 00:06:43,104 Speaker 1: Be no content at all. Then if there's no celebrities. 141 00:06:42,624 --> 00:06:44,024 Speaker 2: I do think there has to be more of a balance, 142 00:06:44,064 --> 00:06:45,744 Speaker 2: And I think it's also okay to call out and 143 00:06:45,784 --> 00:06:48,624 Speaker 2: say like this does feel distasteful and even like obviously 144 00:06:48,664 --> 00:06:50,344 Speaker 2: with everything happening in the world as well, but even 145 00:06:50,384 --> 00:06:52,624 Speaker 2: the fact that there's so many people at the moment 146 00:06:52,664 --> 00:06:54,784 Speaker 2: in Astoria who don't have housing, who can't afford groceries, 147 00:06:54,824 --> 00:06:57,504 Speaker 2: you can't afford healthcare and stuff. So it is that 148 00:06:57,584 --> 00:07:01,064 Speaker 2: line of like celebrities giving us this escapism, but also 149 00:07:01,184 --> 00:07:03,664 Speaker 2: feeling because we have more access than we probably should 150 00:07:03,664 --> 00:07:06,384 Speaker 2: to all of this. Now it's almost like a slap 151 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:08,184 Speaker 2: in the face. But then you have the trickle down 152 00:07:08,184 --> 00:07:10,904 Speaker 2: effect of people like people in the media who mighties it. 153 00:07:10,944 --> 00:07:12,904 Speaker 2: So I think it's a much bigger problem than just 154 00:07:12,904 --> 00:07:14,704 Speaker 2: being one over the top red carpet. 155 00:07:15,224 --> 00:07:17,184 Speaker 3: I think that we can have both. But what I 156 00:07:17,224 --> 00:07:20,704 Speaker 3: think that we need more from celebrities is acknowledgement. Yes, 157 00:07:20,984 --> 00:07:23,504 Speaker 3: for them just to not just sit there so quietly. 158 00:07:24,024 --> 00:07:26,304 Speaker 3: I want a bit of a sense of humor and 159 00:07:26,624 --> 00:07:29,184 Speaker 3: a little bit of acknowledgment about how ridiculous it is. 160 00:07:29,264 --> 00:07:30,344 Speaker 1: Like on the Red Couple when. 161 00:07:30,224 --> 00:07:33,064 Speaker 3: People ask you something, say yeah, blah blah blah, and 162 00:07:33,464 --> 00:07:35,944 Speaker 3: maybe shine a light on something and also acknowledge this 163 00:07:35,984 --> 00:07:39,064 Speaker 3: is a little bit ridiculous, isn't it. Just bring yourself 164 00:07:39,104 --> 00:07:43,424 Speaker 3: back to earth a little bit, onto something a little 165 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:43,864 Speaker 3: bit lighter. 166 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:45,184 Speaker 1: LB. Yes. 167 00:07:45,264 --> 00:07:47,824 Speaker 2: So in the last week, something very important to me 168 00:07:47,944 --> 00:07:50,504 Speaker 2: at least happened because well a few different things came 169 00:07:50,584 --> 00:07:52,464 Speaker 2: at the same time, and that was the fact that 170 00:07:52,504 --> 00:07:55,624 Speaker 2: it was the twenty four year anniversary of one of 171 00:07:55,624 --> 00:07:57,264 Speaker 2: my favorite shows of all time. 172 00:07:57,544 --> 00:07:58,184 Speaker 1: I don't care that. 173 00:07:58,184 --> 00:08:00,064 Speaker 2: People think it's cringe now. I don't care that it's 174 00:08:00,064 --> 00:08:02,704 Speaker 2: gone out of fashion. I still watch it weekly. I'm 175 00:08:02,704 --> 00:08:04,224 Speaker 2: going to say, and that is Gilmore girls. 176 00:08:04,264 --> 00:08:06,584 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people that feel exactly the 177 00:08:06,624 --> 00:08:09,224 Speaker 3: same way. And I said of earlier this morning, that 178 00:08:09,264 --> 00:08:12,064 Speaker 3: you would be horrified that I've never watched an episode. 179 00:08:12,144 --> 00:08:15,784 Speaker 1: I do know the characters Laurelai and Rory. Yes, I 180 00:08:15,784 --> 00:08:16,584 Speaker 1: mean that's the me too. 181 00:08:16,584 --> 00:08:18,784 Speaker 2: There's many others, but the charm of Gilmore Girls is 182 00:08:18,784 --> 00:08:20,384 Speaker 2: the ensemble cast, not just those two. 183 00:08:20,464 --> 00:08:21,704 Speaker 1: But look, I think it's okay. 184 00:08:21,744 --> 00:08:23,424 Speaker 2: And I feel like there's so many people that I 185 00:08:23,424 --> 00:08:25,224 Speaker 2: go and say to them, like, you have to watch 186 00:08:25,224 --> 00:08:27,264 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, because I know they would love it. 187 00:08:27,304 --> 00:08:29,024 Speaker 1: But you're like, I don't know if you You're a bit. 188 00:08:28,904 --> 00:08:31,264 Speaker 2: Of a wildcard to me. I don't, maybe not know, 189 00:08:31,744 --> 00:08:33,824 Speaker 2: but it is a great show. And also at the 190 00:08:33,864 --> 00:08:36,904 Speaker 2: same time, Kelly Bishop, who played Emily Gilmore, the mother 191 00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:39,504 Speaker 2: of the two characters you just mentioned in the last week, 192 00:08:39,544 --> 00:08:40,384 Speaker 2: has released. 193 00:08:40,384 --> 00:08:42,944 Speaker 1: Laurelai was Rory's mother, No, Lareli. 194 00:08:42,744 --> 00:08:45,464 Speaker 2: Is Rory's mother, and Emily is her mother. Oh, Kelly 195 00:08:45,504 --> 00:08:48,424 Speaker 2: Biership pays and the dynamic, the real crux of the 196 00:08:48,424 --> 00:08:51,184 Speaker 2: show is the dynamic between these three women. And so 197 00:08:51,384 --> 00:08:54,144 Speaker 2: she released a memoir called The Third Gilmore Girl, which 198 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:55,984 Speaker 2: is about her life but also her time working on 199 00:08:56,024 --> 00:08:57,864 Speaker 2: the show. And she's been doing a lot of press 200 00:08:58,224 --> 00:09:00,424 Speaker 2: and talking about it and all this information, all these 201 00:09:00,424 --> 00:09:03,464 Speaker 2: beautiful memories she shed sat have come out, so fans 202 00:09:03,464 --> 00:09:05,544 Speaker 2: of the show have been having a whole week nostalgia. 203 00:09:05,664 --> 00:09:08,144 Speaker 1: Is it all nice? And then oh, yeah, yeah, mostly. 204 00:09:07,864 --> 00:09:10,544 Speaker 2: Obviously she talked about because Amy Sherman Palladino, who created 205 00:09:10,624 --> 00:09:13,664 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls with her husband Dan Palladino, left before the 206 00:09:13,704 --> 00:09:15,904 Speaker 2: last season, so she writes about what a mistake that was. 207 00:09:15,944 --> 00:09:17,544 Speaker 2: So she does like drop some dirt in there, but 208 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:19,784 Speaker 2: mostly it's all lovely, wholesome. And she was doing a 209 00:09:19,784 --> 00:09:22,184 Speaker 2: fan event the other day and everyone the audience, who 210 00:09:22,184 --> 00:09:24,104 Speaker 2: were all crazy Gilmore Girls fans, thought it was just 211 00:09:24,104 --> 00:09:25,384 Speaker 2: going to be her, and they kept saying like, oh, 212 00:09:25,544 --> 00:09:28,104 Speaker 2: Moderator's coming, She's coming, She's just on her way, and 213 00:09:28,104 --> 00:09:29,384 Speaker 2: they thought it was going to be someone from like 214 00:09:29,384 --> 00:09:32,104 Speaker 2: the Publisher. And then Lauren Graham works out who is 215 00:09:32,184 --> 00:09:35,424 Speaker 2: Laura Gilmore and the screaming. 216 00:09:34,704 --> 00:09:36,744 Speaker 1: From the audience, and I was like, well that I'm 217 00:09:36,784 --> 00:09:37,864 Speaker 1: man so cute. 218 00:09:38,264 --> 00:09:40,664 Speaker 2: But this has really got this conversation going about how 219 00:09:40,704 --> 00:09:43,984 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, for so many people, including myself, is the 220 00:09:44,064 --> 00:09:46,504 Speaker 2: ultimate comfort show, and comfort shows. I think it's like 221 00:09:46,584 --> 00:09:48,704 Speaker 2: one of the greatest things that entertainment has given us 222 00:09:48,744 --> 00:09:51,104 Speaker 2: is these shows that just like find their way into 223 00:09:51,104 --> 00:09:53,104 Speaker 2: your life. You can watch them over and over again. 224 00:09:53,504 --> 00:09:58,104 Speaker 2: They're there when you're sad, when you're happy. So crazy, Yeah, exactly. 225 00:09:58,464 --> 00:10:00,664 Speaker 2: And so today we wanted to talk about some of 226 00:10:00,704 --> 00:10:02,184 Speaker 2: our favorite comfort shows. 227 00:10:02,384 --> 00:10:03,104 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 228 00:10:03,184 --> 00:10:06,824 Speaker 3: So what Okay? I just realized that I didn't talk 229 00:10:06,864 --> 00:10:07,824 Speaker 3: about The Office. 230 00:10:07,944 --> 00:10:09,824 Speaker 2: That's a comfort show for many people, which one though 231 00:10:09,984 --> 00:10:12,304 Speaker 2: you were. Yes, people are very kind of like they 232 00:10:12,344 --> 00:10:13,024 Speaker 2: have their show. 233 00:10:13,544 --> 00:10:15,504 Speaker 3: And the reason why I just realized in my mind 234 00:10:15,584 --> 00:10:18,104 Speaker 3: that it's a comfort show is because I can watch 235 00:10:18,224 --> 00:10:21,584 Speaker 3: a random clip on TikTok and know exactly like what 236 00:10:21,704 --> 00:10:24,984 Speaker 3: episode that was from, and remember watching it. And I 237 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:28,824 Speaker 3: love watching like the Christmas episodes around Christmas, and it's. 238 00:10:28,624 --> 00:10:33,744 Speaker 1: So warm and wholesome and funny. I just love it. Okay, 239 00:10:33,744 --> 00:10:35,224 Speaker 1: what did you have on your list? Is the show 240 00:10:35,304 --> 00:10:35,944 Speaker 1: she wanted to pick? 241 00:10:36,184 --> 00:10:38,824 Speaker 3: So the actual two shows that I wanted to talk 242 00:10:38,824 --> 00:10:42,144 Speaker 3: about as ultimate comfort shows are Number one, Shit's Creek. 243 00:10:42,344 --> 00:10:45,544 Speaker 1: Well, that is not happening, and I am appalled that 244 00:10:45,624 --> 00:10:50,504 Speaker 1: my baby girl has turned into a selfish, duplicitous horror Oh. Hello, 245 00:10:50,864 --> 00:10:52,504 Speaker 1: you know what I hate about Shit's Creek. I'm not 246 00:10:52,544 --> 00:10:53,344 Speaker 1: I hate about the show. 247 00:10:53,344 --> 00:10:55,464 Speaker 2: I hate about people who watch it is that I 248 00:10:55,504 --> 00:10:57,064 Speaker 2: hear so many people say, like, you know what, it's 249 00:10:57,064 --> 00:10:59,944 Speaker 2: getting really really big, and so many people were saying like, 250 00:11:00,344 --> 00:11:02,264 Speaker 2: just get through the first season and then it gets 251 00:11:02,264 --> 00:11:04,224 Speaker 2: really good, like you just have to persevere. And I 252 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:05,984 Speaker 2: took offense to that because I think the first season 253 00:11:06,104 --> 00:11:08,264 Speaker 2: is great, Like, yes, it gets better as it goes along, 254 00:11:08,424 --> 00:11:09,744 Speaker 2: but I think the first season's good. 255 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:11,264 Speaker 1: I think I've probably said that to people. 256 00:11:11,344 --> 00:11:14,104 Speaker 3: I think that's people that aren't as into TV as 257 00:11:14,144 --> 00:11:17,424 Speaker 3: you are. So it was fine, it was good, but 258 00:11:17,504 --> 00:11:19,944 Speaker 3: it wasn't like, oh my god, this is the greatest 259 00:11:19,984 --> 00:11:20,584 Speaker 3: TV show. 260 00:11:20,624 --> 00:11:21,584 Speaker 1: This is such good writing. 261 00:11:21,624 --> 00:11:23,544 Speaker 3: There were so many good moments, but it wasn't like, 262 00:11:24,064 --> 00:11:25,904 Speaker 3: I don't know, it took me to the second season 263 00:11:25,944 --> 00:11:27,744 Speaker 3: to really fall in love with the characters. 264 00:11:28,024 --> 00:11:30,024 Speaker 2: I guess they start getting more likable and they start 265 00:11:30,024 --> 00:11:32,024 Speaker 2: getting involved more in the town. So, for anyone who 266 00:11:32,064 --> 00:11:33,984 Speaker 2: hasn't watched A watch, yes, what she's quick about. 267 00:11:34,144 --> 00:11:37,064 Speaker 3: So it follows the trials and tribulations of the very 268 00:11:37,144 --> 00:11:41,144 Speaker 3: formally wealthy Rose family. So after their business manager embezzles 269 00:11:41,184 --> 00:11:45,504 Speaker 3: the family business ross video, the family loses its fortune 270 00:11:45,584 --> 00:11:48,264 Speaker 3: and decides to relocate to Shit's Creek, which is a 271 00:11:48,264 --> 00:11:51,624 Speaker 3: fictional town that they once purchased as a joke, must 272 00:11:51,664 --> 00:11:54,224 Speaker 3: be nicest with that rich. So now they live in 273 00:11:54,264 --> 00:11:57,024 Speaker 3: the local motel. Johnny and Moira the mom and dad, 274 00:11:57,024 --> 00:12:00,744 Speaker 3: along with their adult children David and Alexis, must adjust 275 00:12:00,904 --> 00:12:04,584 Speaker 3: to life without wealth. And it's just it makes me smile. 276 00:12:04,624 --> 00:12:07,584 Speaker 3: There are so many iconic moments. There are just so 277 00:12:07,584 --> 00:12:10,344 Speaker 3: many beautiful storylines. It is so it's kind of like 278 00:12:10,424 --> 00:12:13,344 Speaker 3: off is just so warm and funny, yeah, and lovely, 279 00:12:13,384 --> 00:12:14,824 Speaker 3: and you can sort of just watch it at any 280 00:12:14,824 --> 00:12:21,104 Speaker 3: time and honestly simply the best one sequence song, dance whatever. 281 00:12:21,104 --> 00:12:23,384 Speaker 3: You would call it, one of the most iconic. 282 00:12:23,624 --> 00:12:25,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, very romantic. That's interesting. 283 00:12:25,664 --> 00:12:27,504 Speaker 2: I really like Schick's Creek and I appreciate it and 284 00:12:27,544 --> 00:12:29,464 Speaker 2: I enjoyed watching it. But for me, it's not really 285 00:12:29,544 --> 00:12:31,344 Speaker 2: a comfort watch, Like I mean, I haven't gone back 286 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:32,664 Speaker 2: and watched it over and over again. But maybe I 287 00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:36,304 Speaker 2: should add it to my repertoire. So because obviously everyone's like, Laurie, 288 00:12:36,304 --> 00:12:37,744 Speaker 2: we've heard you talk about Gilmore Girls before. 289 00:12:37,784 --> 00:12:38,184 Speaker 1: Shut up. 290 00:12:38,264 --> 00:12:40,264 Speaker 2: We know it's a comfort watch, so I'm not going 291 00:12:40,304 --> 00:12:42,944 Speaker 2: to bring that up. Also, obviously, Emilyine Paris is a 292 00:12:42,944 --> 00:12:45,864 Speaker 2: massive comfort watch for me. I can hear people screaming, yes, Laura, 293 00:12:45,944 --> 00:12:48,064 Speaker 2: We've heard it. So I stayed away from anything that 294 00:12:48,064 --> 00:12:49,184 Speaker 2: I've mentioned before. Face. 295 00:12:49,224 --> 00:12:51,944 Speaker 3: Also, can you really classify a Newish show as a 296 00:12:51,944 --> 00:12:52,544 Speaker 3: comfort watch? 297 00:12:52,544 --> 00:12:55,224 Speaker 1: Doesn't it need to be something for years? Yeah? But 298 00:12:55,264 --> 00:12:56,624 Speaker 1: I watch it every weekend. 299 00:12:56,824 --> 00:12:58,904 Speaker 3: I reckon a comfort show is like something that you 300 00:12:58,984 --> 00:13:01,464 Speaker 3: watched on a box set in your twenties. 301 00:13:01,664 --> 00:13:03,704 Speaker 2: Well, that's true, so obviously that's like your Sex and 302 00:13:03,744 --> 00:13:05,064 Speaker 2: the Cities, or that's Gilmore Girls. 303 00:13:05,104 --> 00:13:07,504 Speaker 1: Actually, Ship's Creek is kind of too new, then, say 304 00:13:08,024 --> 00:13:10,104 Speaker 1: the Office. That's why I had the Office exactly. 305 00:13:10,184 --> 00:13:12,024 Speaker 2: So I'm staying away from those ones, and I'm trying 306 00:13:12,024 --> 00:13:13,824 Speaker 2: to pick different ones, and so I've gone with the 307 00:13:14,304 --> 00:13:16,784 Speaker 2: What people want to know is the unofficial Gilmore Girls 308 00:13:16,784 --> 00:13:17,224 Speaker 2: spin off? 309 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:19,304 Speaker 1: Oh, for goodness sake, So you are talking about the 310 00:13:19,304 --> 00:13:20,024 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girl. 311 00:13:19,944 --> 00:13:22,184 Speaker 2: No, I'm sure, because I've mentioned this in an entertainment 312 00:13:22,184 --> 00:13:23,624 Speaker 2: meeting the other day with my team, because we talk 313 00:13:23,664 --> 00:13:26,104 Speaker 2: about Gilmore Girls and most of them had never heard 314 00:13:26,144 --> 00:13:28,104 Speaker 2: of it, even though they're Gilmore Girls fans, which made 315 00:13:28,104 --> 00:13:30,064 Speaker 2: me feel like I had not done my proper duty 316 00:13:30,064 --> 00:13:32,064 Speaker 2: of letting people know about this show. So I'm going 317 00:13:32,104 --> 00:13:34,944 Speaker 2: to rectify that now, and I'm talking about bun Heads. 318 00:13:35,264 --> 00:13:38,584 Speaker 2: What is Bunheads, you may ask. So after they finished 319 00:13:38,584 --> 00:13:42,584 Speaker 2: making Gilmore Girls, Amy Shoman Palladino made bun Heads, which 320 00:13:42,784 --> 00:13:45,304 Speaker 2: is a very cute little drama. Dy and Kelly Bishop, 321 00:13:45,424 --> 00:13:48,344 Speaker 2: who was Emily Gilmore, is in this series but as 322 00:13:48,344 --> 00:13:50,504 Speaker 2: a different character, and it starts Sutton Foster, who went 323 00:13:50,544 --> 00:13:52,784 Speaker 2: on to be the lead and Younger Watch Younger another 324 00:13:52,824 --> 00:13:54,704 Speaker 2: comfort show for me, watch out all the time. And 325 00:13:54,784 --> 00:13:58,224 Speaker 2: so Sutton Foster's character is this dancer in. 326 00:13:58,224 --> 00:14:00,184 Speaker 1: The Bold another comfort show. 327 00:14:00,304 --> 00:14:02,904 Speaker 2: Yes, all of those kind of shows of women working, friendship, 328 00:14:02,904 --> 00:14:03,624 Speaker 2: getting coffee love. 329 00:14:03,704 --> 00:14:04,584 Speaker 1: This is slightly different. 330 00:14:04,704 --> 00:14:07,344 Speaker 2: So Sutton Foster plays Michelle, and she's a Las Vegas 331 00:14:07,384 --> 00:14:10,544 Speaker 2: showgirl who's kind of dancing for a very long time 332 00:14:10,584 --> 00:14:12,024 Speaker 2: and having to sort of get to the end of 333 00:14:12,064 --> 00:14:15,584 Speaker 2: her career. This guy who's obsessed with her is coming 334 00:14:15,624 --> 00:14:18,024 Speaker 2: to see her all the time. He proposes they get married. 335 00:14:18,104 --> 00:14:21,264 Speaker 2: She says, what the hell? They get married and he 336 00:14:21,344 --> 00:14:23,904 Speaker 2: takes her to this tiny, little seaside town where he says, 337 00:14:23,944 --> 00:14:25,704 Speaker 2: I own a house. We can live here and be happy. 338 00:14:26,104 --> 00:14:29,624 Speaker 2: Unbeknownst to her, his mother who's Kelly Bishop from Gilmore 339 00:14:29,664 --> 00:14:32,344 Speaker 2: Girls who played Emily Gilmore. His mother lives in the 340 00:14:32,384 --> 00:14:34,784 Speaker 2: house and owns a dance school that's attached to it. 341 00:14:35,064 --> 00:14:37,744 Speaker 2: This guy dies suddenly. All happens in the first like 342 00:14:37,784 --> 00:14:40,064 Speaker 2: five minutes, so it's not a spoiler, and then sudden 343 00:14:40,304 --> 00:14:43,664 Speaker 2: Forss's character is like, what do I do? So she's 344 00:14:43,704 --> 00:14:46,104 Speaker 2: a dancer. She ends up teaching in the dancing school 345 00:14:46,184 --> 00:14:48,304 Speaker 2: with her mother in law, and it's just kind of 346 00:14:48,344 --> 00:14:52,664 Speaker 2: like small town characters them finding this friendship, like having 347 00:14:52,664 --> 00:14:54,424 Speaker 2: all these like young bally dancers, and it's just a 348 00:14:54,464 --> 00:14:56,344 Speaker 2: really beautiful, like if you love, kind of like a 349 00:14:56,384 --> 00:14:59,944 Speaker 2: small town comfort show and also having this like all 350 00:14:59,984 --> 00:15:02,984 Speaker 2: star cars different like Gilmore Girls. People pop in, but 351 00:15:03,024 --> 00:15:05,144 Speaker 2: you obviously don't have to watch Gilmore Girls to like it. 352 00:15:05,464 --> 00:15:09,744 Speaker 2: Bunheads because they're ballerinas. They have bun bunheads. Bunheads, yes, 353 00:15:09,904 --> 00:15:11,944 Speaker 2: And so about this little dance school in a tiny 354 00:15:11,984 --> 00:15:14,384 Speaker 2: town with a woman who's like a kind of fish 355 00:15:14,384 --> 00:15:16,624 Speaker 2: out of water because she's like a flushy laed Las 356 00:15:16,704 --> 00:15:19,984 Speaker 2: Vegas dancer. But then slowly she starts to kind of 357 00:15:20,264 --> 00:15:24,104 Speaker 2: find relationships with pure very Cut's on Disney plus Very 358 00:15:24,144 --> 00:15:26,264 Speaker 2: sadly there was only one season, but it's like a 359 00:15:26,304 --> 00:15:28,504 Speaker 2: long season, so it's like quite a good watch because 360 00:15:28,824 --> 00:15:31,064 Speaker 2: different things happen, like righter strikes and stuff. But it 361 00:15:31,104 --> 00:15:33,344 Speaker 2: worked out well because that show ended, Sutton Foster could 362 00:15:33,384 --> 00:15:35,224 Speaker 2: go on to being younger. But I just feel like 363 00:15:35,264 --> 00:15:36,984 Speaker 2: this is a really important show and it's got all 364 00:15:37,024 --> 00:15:38,904 Speaker 2: the same kind of If you love the dialogue of 365 00:15:38,944 --> 00:15:41,664 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls and that cozy small town feel, then you 366 00:15:41,704 --> 00:15:43,384 Speaker 2: have to watch bun Heads on Disney. 367 00:15:43,424 --> 00:15:50,064 Speaker 3: Plus, my second comfort watch is set in a fictional 368 00:15:50,064 --> 00:15:51,984 Speaker 3: small town, So I think Laura you will like it 369 00:15:52,064 --> 00:15:55,504 Speaker 3: and might have heard of it called Bluebell, Alabama. It 370 00:15:55,584 --> 00:15:57,144 Speaker 3: is called Heart of Dixie. 371 00:15:57,264 --> 00:15:58,784 Speaker 5: You know what cricket is right? This is silly? 372 00:15:59,184 --> 00:16:02,264 Speaker 1: This wait like Johnny Cash or not? I'm not positive. 373 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:02,944 Speaker 5: I think so. 374 00:16:03,224 --> 00:16:04,904 Speaker 1: Seems like you would, Zoey Hart. 375 00:16:05,024 --> 00:16:07,264 Speaker 3: This is your epic John Cusack with the boom box 376 00:16:07,304 --> 00:16:08,224 Speaker 3: over your head moment. 377 00:16:08,664 --> 00:16:12,904 Speaker 1: Everybody loves that moment. Yeah, okay, you're right, all right, ladies, 378 00:16:12,944 --> 00:16:13,584 Speaker 1: let's do this. 379 00:16:15,304 --> 00:16:15,944 Speaker 5: I keep a. 380 00:16:16,064 --> 00:16:18,664 Speaker 6: Close watch on this heart of mine. 381 00:16:19,824 --> 00:16:23,304 Speaker 1: I keep my eyes wide open all the time. 382 00:16:23,704 --> 00:16:27,384 Speaker 2: That is one of my favorite comfort shows of all time. 383 00:16:27,504 --> 00:16:29,984 Speaker 2: When I tell you I have watched this show up 384 00:16:30,024 --> 00:16:31,944 Speaker 2: with the fifteen times. It's been out for a long time, 385 00:16:31,984 --> 00:16:33,784 Speaker 2: and I rewatch it all the time because you. 386 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:35,824 Speaker 1: Don't need to like watch every episode as well. It's 387 00:16:35,904 --> 00:16:37,744 Speaker 1: just like I do like watching every episode because I 388 00:16:37,784 --> 00:16:39,384 Speaker 1: love it so cute. 389 00:16:39,904 --> 00:16:43,344 Speaker 3: It centers around doctor Zoe Hart played by Rachel Bilson, 390 00:16:43,984 --> 00:16:45,784 Speaker 3: and you do have to get past the cringe of 391 00:16:45,784 --> 00:16:47,784 Speaker 3: the first day, also the cringe. 392 00:16:47,544 --> 00:16:48,824 Speaker 1: Of the whole show. You have to live in the 393 00:16:48,864 --> 00:16:49,784 Speaker 1: world they created. 394 00:16:50,064 --> 00:16:52,584 Speaker 3: I think you get past it in the first episode, naturally, 395 00:16:52,664 --> 00:16:54,464 Speaker 3: No likely, you know, you've got to be a cringe 396 00:16:54,504 --> 00:16:56,544 Speaker 3: look on your face going, oh, they didn't just say, 397 00:16:56,544 --> 00:16:58,824 Speaker 3: they didn't just do that. But then you get through 398 00:16:58,944 --> 00:17:01,144 Speaker 3: and you just fall in love with the characters. 399 00:17:01,224 --> 00:17:01,544 Speaker 1: It is. 400 00:17:02,184 --> 00:17:04,904 Speaker 3: It is what you imagine a small town to be 401 00:17:05,104 --> 00:17:08,144 Speaker 3: when you write a fictional small town. Yeah, just so cute. 402 00:17:08,304 --> 00:17:13,984 Speaker 3: It is so cozy. The character's name are like Lemon, Annabeth, Shelby, Tansy, 403 00:17:14,704 --> 00:17:20,904 Speaker 3: They're just so Magnolia, Magnolo. Oh my god. It is 404 00:17:21,064 --> 00:17:25,624 Speaker 3: just so cute. So that is another one. It's adorable. 405 00:17:25,904 --> 00:17:27,144 Speaker 1: It's a really lovely watch. 406 00:17:27,184 --> 00:17:29,144 Speaker 2: So as you're saying this setup is a bit cringe 407 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:31,544 Speaker 2: at the start, where like she's a big town doctor. 408 00:17:31,704 --> 00:17:34,024 Speaker 3: Going to the small town and the case that she 409 00:17:34,104 --> 00:17:36,864 Speaker 3: gets on the first ever day is just so unrealistic. 410 00:17:37,424 --> 00:17:40,104 Speaker 1: There's very little little medical yes on her show. 411 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:42,064 Speaker 2: So she gets told to go to this small town 412 00:17:42,064 --> 00:17:43,944 Speaker 2: where she's been offered a job because she misses out 413 00:17:43,944 --> 00:17:46,024 Speaker 2: in her dream job in New York. And the head 414 00:17:46,064 --> 00:17:48,104 Speaker 2: surgeon at her hospital tells her to like go and 415 00:17:48,144 --> 00:17:50,584 Speaker 2: get some bedside manner, and he's what does he say? 416 00:17:50,624 --> 00:17:52,824 Speaker 2: Something like, your doctor Hart, you need to learn to 417 00:17:52,824 --> 00:17:53,304 Speaker 2: have a heart. 418 00:17:53,384 --> 00:17:55,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, oh that's her name is heart. Like it's 419 00:17:56,024 --> 00:17:57,024 Speaker 1: just so she moves. 420 00:17:57,064 --> 00:17:59,784 Speaker 2: I think Bluebell it's like a more unhinged version of 421 00:17:59,864 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 2: Stars Hollow on Gilmore Girls in terms of like quirky characters, 422 00:18:02,784 --> 00:18:05,744 Speaker 2: small town gazebel in the center, but even a bit wilder. 423 00:18:06,024 --> 00:18:07,864 Speaker 2: But I actually think some of the characters in this show, 424 00:18:08,424 --> 00:18:10,304 Speaker 2: I mean, well, Rachel Bilson, I feel it just knows 425 00:18:10,384 --> 00:18:12,224 Speaker 2: how to carry a show, Like she's great at that. 426 00:18:12,384 --> 00:18:14,944 Speaker 2: She's a phenomenal exactly like the right charisma. She's a 427 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:18,064 Speaker 2: really good TV stuff. But I think that Jamie King 428 00:18:18,144 --> 00:18:21,104 Speaker 2: as Lemon Brieland, to me, that is my most interesting 429 00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:23,984 Speaker 2: characters it's ever been on TV because she like changes right. 430 00:18:24,024 --> 00:18:25,984 Speaker 2: She starts off as kind of like ultimate ming girl, 431 00:18:26,304 --> 00:18:27,904 Speaker 2: and there's so many layers to her. By the end 432 00:18:27,944 --> 00:18:28,664 Speaker 2: of it, you're in love. 433 00:18:28,704 --> 00:18:29,104 Speaker 1: I also. 434 00:18:29,144 --> 00:18:32,504 Speaker 2: I love George, I love Wade, I love every Also Lavon, 435 00:18:32,864 --> 00:18:35,424 Speaker 2: Leavn Hayes, Lavarn. 436 00:18:35,104 --> 00:18:38,504 Speaker 1: Hayes, I love Brick, I love to God. Now we're 437 00:18:38,544 --> 00:18:40,544 Speaker 1: just fan girling up. But you know what I also love. 438 00:18:40,584 --> 00:18:43,624 Speaker 2: I respect most on a TV show is an unexpected 439 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:45,824 Speaker 2: love story, which I think this has. Like I don't 440 00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:47,864 Speaker 2: want to spoiler if anyone who's watching it, but you 441 00:18:47,944 --> 00:18:49,864 Speaker 2: start to think, like, oh, these two people have been 442 00:18:49,864 --> 00:18:51,744 Speaker 2: set up to be the romantic lead, so that is 443 00:18:51,744 --> 00:18:54,024 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. And as a show goes along, it 444 00:18:54,104 --> 00:18:57,224 Speaker 2: really flips that around and different people emerge as the 445 00:18:57,264 --> 00:18:59,624 Speaker 2: final couples yes yes, and. 446 00:18:59,984 --> 00:19:02,344 Speaker 3: Who you think will end up together don't. But it 447 00:19:02,384 --> 00:19:05,104 Speaker 3: all works out in everything, everything it's tied up and 448 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,104 Speaker 3: it's just nice. 449 00:19:06,744 --> 00:19:07,304 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 450 00:19:07,584 --> 00:19:10,824 Speaker 3: Also, if you do want more medical stuff though, comfort 451 00:19:10,824 --> 00:19:13,304 Speaker 3: show Private Practice, which has been off of Gray's Anatomy. 452 00:19:13,344 --> 00:19:14,824 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but I don't find that comforting because 453 00:19:14,824 --> 00:19:16,704 Speaker 2: I always start thinking I have whatever disease the people 454 00:19:16,744 --> 00:19:19,984 Speaker 2: on TEME. I do, but it's a different a different vibe. 455 00:19:20,104 --> 00:19:20,624 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 456 00:19:20,704 --> 00:19:23,304 Speaker 3: You did also say elide that you find watching The 457 00:19:23,304 --> 00:19:25,824 Speaker 3: Walking Dead comforting, so yeah, well yeah exactly. 458 00:19:25,904 --> 00:19:28,664 Speaker 1: We all like different things. What's your next one? My 459 00:19:29,024 --> 00:19:29,584 Speaker 1: is one I have. 460 00:19:29,544 --> 00:19:32,024 Speaker 2: Watched over and over again. It came out, oh god 461 00:19:32,064 --> 00:19:34,144 Speaker 2: by maybe twenty years ago now, but I have watched 462 00:19:34,144 --> 00:19:35,464 Speaker 2: it over and over and over again. 463 00:19:35,664 --> 00:19:36,584 Speaker 1: Brothers and sisters. 464 00:19:37,304 --> 00:19:40,504 Speaker 2: My mom loves your shows, a real mom show. 465 00:19:40,504 --> 00:19:42,024 Speaker 1: Stop stop. 466 00:19:42,344 --> 00:19:45,424 Speaker 6: I have had it with each and every one of you. 467 00:19:47,024 --> 00:19:48,784 Speaker 1: Kevin, who are you? 468 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 6: When did you become so cynical and hardhearted that you 469 00:19:52,464 --> 00:19:55,944 Speaker 6: would leave that boy in jail when any four would 470 00:19:56,024 --> 00:19:58,704 Speaker 6: know that he didn't break into the restaurant for the money. 471 00:19:58,984 --> 00:20:00,184 Speaker 6: He's all alone in the world. 472 00:20:00,264 --> 00:20:01,664 Speaker 1: He doesn't have anyone to take. 473 00:20:01,464 --> 00:20:02,104 Speaker 5: Care of him. 474 00:20:02,504 --> 00:20:05,624 Speaker 6: He broke into the restaurant hoping that you would find 475 00:20:05,704 --> 00:20:06,664 Speaker 6: him and help him. 476 00:20:07,144 --> 00:20:11,544 Speaker 1: My mom was obsessed with this show. I've never watched it. 477 00:20:11,904 --> 00:20:16,544 Speaker 2: Sally Sally Field, yes, Siel Griffis, Calista Flockhart just an 478 00:20:16,544 --> 00:20:18,824 Speaker 2: all star car So basically it's just one of those 479 00:20:18,824 --> 00:20:21,744 Speaker 2: shows that would never get made today because it's just 480 00:20:21,864 --> 00:20:24,864 Speaker 2: like kind of like a nice family drama that it 481 00:20:25,064 --> 00:20:27,584 Speaker 2: goes for five seasons and so much happens. So basically 482 00:20:27,624 --> 00:20:29,664 Speaker 2: it's like the Walker family. They are this kind of 483 00:20:29,704 --> 00:20:33,424 Speaker 2: like very wealthy family who lives in Ohi in California, 484 00:20:33,464 --> 00:20:35,544 Speaker 2: and Sally Field is like the mum, and they've got 485 00:20:35,544 --> 00:20:37,304 Speaker 2: the five kids and they're all kind of like different 486 00:20:37,344 --> 00:20:39,824 Speaker 2: ages and stuff. And then something happens in the first 487 00:20:39,864 --> 00:20:41,664 Speaker 2: it's not a spoiler because it came out twenty years ago. 488 00:20:41,744 --> 00:20:43,704 Speaker 2: Also it's in the first ten minutes of the episode, 489 00:20:43,784 --> 00:20:47,424 Speaker 2: but the patriarch of the family, William Walker, who's like 490 00:20:47,464 --> 00:20:50,064 Speaker 2: this big businessman and he and Sally Field's characters had 491 00:20:50,064 --> 00:20:51,824 Speaker 2: this big love story and he's like everyone's like he's 492 00:20:51,824 --> 00:20:54,344 Speaker 2: the perfect man, dies suddenly and then it comes out 493 00:20:54,384 --> 00:20:56,784 Speaker 2: that he had a mistress, he didn't bazzled money from 494 00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:57,784 Speaker 2: the company. 495 00:20:57,744 --> 00:20:58,704 Speaker 1: He had a love child. 496 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,144 Speaker 2: All this stuff happens, but it just follows this family 497 00:21:01,264 --> 00:21:04,184 Speaker 2: through five seasons, and yes, there are very like kind 498 00:21:04,184 --> 00:21:06,464 Speaker 2: of emotional moments, but so much about is them just 499 00:21:06,504 --> 00:21:08,824 Speaker 2: having family dinner and they have a really lovely sibling 500 00:21:08,904 --> 00:21:12,344 Speaker 2: dynamic and it's sometimes it is really cutesy and like 501 00:21:12,504 --> 00:21:14,424 Speaker 2: very mushy, but I just really like it. 502 00:21:14,544 --> 00:21:17,824 Speaker 1: I rewatch it. I like stuff like that, and it's different. 503 00:21:17,504 --> 00:21:18,864 Speaker 2: Like, you know, you have people kind of falling in 504 00:21:18,904 --> 00:21:21,024 Speaker 2: and out of love with these big relationships, and you 505 00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:23,864 Speaker 2: have losses, and there's like really weird comedy sequences, and 506 00:21:23,904 --> 00:21:25,184 Speaker 2: I just think, but it is, at the end of 507 00:21:25,224 --> 00:21:27,424 Speaker 2: the day, just a kind of very bread and butter 508 00:21:27,784 --> 00:21:31,824 Speaker 2: family drama. Y. It's not groundbreaking anyway, but it's just the. 509 00:21:32,104 --> 00:21:34,144 Speaker 3: You don't want groundbreaking when it's cozy. 510 00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:35,784 Speaker 2: No exactly, like I can just it's just one of 511 00:21:35,824 --> 00:21:37,104 Speaker 2: those things where I'm like, I'm gonna pop it on. 512 00:21:37,184 --> 00:21:37,984 Speaker 1: So it's on Disney. 513 00:21:37,984 --> 00:21:40,224 Speaker 2: Plus, it was really hard for me to pick between 514 00:21:40,584 --> 00:21:42,704 Speaker 2: two shows that came out around the same time, which 515 00:21:42,784 --> 00:21:45,344 Speaker 2: was Brothers and Sisters and Parenthood, which is my other 516 00:21:45,504 --> 00:21:46,664 Speaker 2: absolute comfort. 517 00:21:46,424 --> 00:21:49,744 Speaker 1: Way I have watched either of them, so both. 518 00:21:49,624 --> 00:21:51,664 Speaker 2: Parenthood's a bit more down to earth and a bit 519 00:21:51,704 --> 00:21:54,184 Speaker 2: more realistic, but that it is also I mean just 520 00:21:54,424 --> 00:21:56,064 Speaker 2: sense we're throwing in extras. 521 00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:57,944 Speaker 3: You I know, because both of us just keep going, 522 00:21:58,064 --> 00:21:58,904 Speaker 3: oh what about this one? 523 00:21:58,904 --> 00:22:00,944 Speaker 1: What about that one? I love this, I love me. 524 00:22:01,664 --> 00:22:02,984 Speaker 1: I just don't understand. 525 00:22:02,584 --> 00:22:04,384 Speaker 2: People who only watch a show once. Like it's like 526 00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:05,984 Speaker 2: people who only read a book once. Like I know, 527 00:22:06,024 --> 00:22:08,104 Speaker 2: there's some shows that are designed to be watched once. 528 00:22:08,224 --> 00:22:09,584 Speaker 1: Some people don't have anxiety. 529 00:22:10,664 --> 00:22:14,104 Speaker 3: What's been us Apparently it's like something about an anxious thing. 530 00:22:14,144 --> 00:22:16,624 Speaker 3: You rewatch things because you like to know what's going 531 00:22:16,664 --> 00:22:19,184 Speaker 3: to happen. I wonder, especially as you get older, you're 532 00:22:19,224 --> 00:22:21,984 Speaker 3: more likely to rewatch things because you don't want the 533 00:22:21,984 --> 00:22:23,784 Speaker 3: element of surprise. Don't quote me on that, but it's 534 00:22:23,784 --> 00:22:24,984 Speaker 3: something with anxiety. 535 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:26,704 Speaker 2: I have heard that, although I find that weird because 536 00:22:26,704 --> 00:22:29,504 Speaker 2: I don't have anxiety, and maybe you do. Maybe it's 537 00:22:29,544 --> 00:22:30,664 Speaker 2: manifested in this way. 538 00:22:30,904 --> 00:22:31,264 Speaker 1: I don't know. 539 00:22:31,304 --> 00:22:33,304 Speaker 2: I guess that comforting. Also, I just love it so much. 540 00:22:33,304 --> 00:22:35,144 Speaker 2: The fact that I would only get to experience it 541 00:22:35,184 --> 00:22:36,984 Speaker 2: once makes me a bit sad, Like I. 542 00:22:36,984 --> 00:22:39,104 Speaker 1: Wanted always things that you notice the second things. 543 00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:41,464 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say it, I make TV like 544 00:22:41,464 --> 00:22:44,024 Speaker 2: that anymore. They if Brothers and Sisters came out today, 545 00:22:44,104 --> 00:22:45,264 Speaker 2: I mean the first of all, they wouldn't make it, 546 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,424 Speaker 2: but it would be like a five part limited series. 547 00:22:47,664 --> 00:22:49,944 Speaker 2: There'd be a murder straight away. There'd be kind of 548 00:22:49,984 --> 00:22:52,144 Speaker 2: an all star cast, which I mean the kind of 549 00:22:52,184 --> 00:22:53,744 Speaker 2: is there'd be a bigger all star cast, and there 550 00:22:53,744 --> 00:22:56,464 Speaker 2: would be none of those what we kind of like stories. Yeah, 551 00:22:56,504 --> 00:22:59,144 Speaker 2: what we kind of lost was like filler episodes, which 552 00:22:59,184 --> 00:23:01,224 Speaker 2: all of our comfort shows have those in because they 553 00:23:01,264 --> 00:23:02,184 Speaker 2: were multing happens. 554 00:23:02,184 --> 00:23:03,784 Speaker 1: It's just dialogue exactly. 555 00:23:03,784 --> 00:23:06,264 Speaker 2: But you can have those meandering episodes where something like 556 00:23:06,304 --> 00:23:09,064 Speaker 2: the Town of Bluebell do like a charity race or 557 00:23:09,104 --> 00:23:10,264 Speaker 2: something like that, you know what I mean, you can. 558 00:23:10,504 --> 00:23:13,024 Speaker 3: Friends they're just like sitting in the coffee shop having 559 00:23:13,064 --> 00:23:14,104 Speaker 3: a conversation. 560 00:23:13,664 --> 00:23:17,104 Speaker 2: About Yeah, as we get with more prestige TV and 561 00:23:17,144 --> 00:23:19,784 Speaker 2: we have shows that are just like it's a short 562 00:23:19,864 --> 00:23:21,944 Speaker 2: drop of episodes, you wait three years from them, it's 563 00:23:21,984 --> 00:23:24,984 Speaker 2: six episodes. Every moment something has to be happening, you 564 00:23:25,064 --> 00:23:27,344 Speaker 2: lose the coziness. So that's why I think all the 565 00:23:27,384 --> 00:23:31,224 Speaker 2: shows we're recommending a lot oh quite old like us. Yeah, okay, 566 00:23:31,264 --> 00:23:32,904 Speaker 2: so we did go a little off the rails there 567 00:23:32,984 --> 00:23:34,904 Speaker 2: only because I could do a six hour episode and 568 00:23:36,264 --> 00:23:39,104 Speaker 2: we too, we could our favorite TV shows. But just 569 00:23:39,144 --> 00:23:42,784 Speaker 2: to recap official, I mean, honestly, I would do that, 570 00:23:42,904 --> 00:23:45,624 Speaker 2: just to recap officially. We our comfort shows are Heart 571 00:23:45,664 --> 00:23:49,584 Speaker 2: of Dixie on Stan, Shit's Creek on Netflix. Is that 572 00:23:49,624 --> 00:23:49,984 Speaker 2: all right? 573 00:23:50,104 --> 00:23:53,384 Speaker 1: I don't know. You lunatic. No, that's right, Yeah, it is. 574 00:23:53,464 --> 00:23:55,944 Speaker 1: You are incredible. I mean I'm saying you're a lunatic 575 00:23:55,984 --> 00:23:56,624 Speaker 1: as a compliment. 576 00:23:56,904 --> 00:23:58,584 Speaker 2: Well, I need to know where all my favorite TV 577 00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:01,264 Speaker 2: show shows are at all times. And then well, mine 578 00:24:01,264 --> 00:24:03,704 Speaker 2: are easy to remember bun Heads on Disney Plus and 579 00:24:03,784 --> 00:24:06,264 Speaker 2: Brothers and Sisters on Disney Plus. And please let us 580 00:24:06,304 --> 00:24:08,864 Speaker 2: know on our Instagram account. 581 00:24:09,544 --> 00:24:10,304 Speaker 1: No, DM me too. 582 00:24:10,384 --> 00:24:12,944 Speaker 2: Put it on the instat Kelly McCarran, Laura Broadening on Instagram. 583 00:24:13,104 --> 00:24:15,584 Speaker 2: Let us know all the Spill podcast what your comfort 584 00:24:15,584 --> 00:24:17,544 Speaker 2: shows are, because honestly, I am getting get to the 585 00:24:17,544 --> 00:24:20,544 Speaker 2: stage where I've rewatched these too many times. We need 586 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:21,904 Speaker 2: new entries to the list. 587 00:24:26,344 --> 00:24:28,584 Speaker 5: The weekend watch. 588 00:24:28,784 --> 00:24:30,864 Speaker 2: Okay, we can watch time now. I'm only saying this 589 00:24:30,864 --> 00:24:32,944 Speaker 2: because we might have some new listeners and we can watch. 590 00:24:32,984 --> 00:24:34,864 Speaker 2: Sounds like a fun time, But the rules are serious, 591 00:24:34,984 --> 00:24:37,984 Speaker 2: the stakes are high. It's new releases. You look freaked out. 592 00:24:38,304 --> 00:24:40,584 Speaker 1: No, I'm like, oh God, it's new. 593 00:24:40,464 --> 00:24:42,904 Speaker 2: Releases that have come out in the last week that 594 00:24:42,944 --> 00:24:44,224 Speaker 2: you can watch this weekend. 595 00:24:44,424 --> 00:24:47,504 Speaker 1: That is the rule. What is your we can watch recommendation? 596 00:24:47,944 --> 00:24:52,384 Speaker 3: Mine is Ali Wong's brand new Netflix special single Lady, 597 00:24:52,544 --> 00:24:53,184 Speaker 3: I Really. 598 00:24:52,984 --> 00:25:01,184 Speaker 7: Do believe that forty is the golden age to get divorced. 599 00:25:01,384 --> 00:25:03,024 Speaker 7: It is perfect. 600 00:25:04,864 --> 00:25:07,824 Speaker 1: The age range who I could date is huge. 601 00:25:08,024 --> 00:25:10,504 Speaker 7: I think all as low as twenty five, and. 602 00:25:10,464 --> 00:25:12,624 Speaker 3: Then I could go with high as fifty five. 603 00:25:13,384 --> 00:25:14,904 Speaker 1: Uh, if you're fifty five. 604 00:25:14,784 --> 00:25:17,384 Speaker 7: I got questions for you, like can you go on 605 00:25:17,424 --> 00:25:18,184 Speaker 7: a brisk walk? 606 00:25:19,624 --> 00:25:21,664 Speaker 2: I love Ali Wong, I just want her so funny. 607 00:25:21,864 --> 00:25:24,544 Speaker 1: I am in between. I'm not sure. Yeah. 608 00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:30,144 Speaker 3: It is a juicy, aspirational portrayal of celebrity singlehood, and 609 00:25:30,184 --> 00:25:33,344 Speaker 3: it's very optimistic. It's kind of unlike other things that 610 00:25:33,384 --> 00:25:35,904 Speaker 3: she's done. She always does have a level of optimism, 611 00:25:35,984 --> 00:25:41,104 Speaker 3: but it shines a very positive light on being single 612 00:25:41,344 --> 00:25:43,864 Speaker 3: a divorce ee in your forties, Like it makes anyone 613 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:45,504 Speaker 3: kind of want to be divorced in your forties, to 614 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:45,824 Speaker 3: be honest. 615 00:25:45,824 --> 00:25:47,504 Speaker 1: Because she also talks about being best friends. 616 00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:50,824 Speaker 2: With their ex and so he's got tour manager for 617 00:25:50,904 --> 00:25:53,944 Speaker 2: her tour, and he comes along on tour with her 618 00:25:54,024 --> 00:25:55,864 Speaker 2: and her two kids, and she. 619 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:57,904 Speaker 3: Talks about having so much sex with different people that 620 00:25:58,184 --> 00:25:59,184 Speaker 3: maybe me so uncomfortable. 621 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:00,824 Speaker 2: Well, she's like they're best friends, and because when she's 622 00:26:00,824 --> 00:26:02,824 Speaker 2: doing promo for it, they're like everyone's like, so you'd 623 00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:05,344 Speaker 2: bring Bill Hayter, who's her boyfriend I love there together 624 00:26:05,624 --> 00:26:07,504 Speaker 2: and she brings her ex husband and the kids on 625 00:26:07,544 --> 00:26:09,464 Speaker 2: tour and they're just like one family. But as she said, 626 00:26:09,464 --> 00:26:10,864 Speaker 2: she's like, look, it took a lot of to get here. 627 00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:11,904 Speaker 1: This didn't fall into my life. 628 00:26:11,944 --> 00:26:14,264 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a smart lady. Yeah, And she does talk 629 00:26:14,264 --> 00:26:17,104 Speaker 3: about the relationship with Bill Hayter. She doesn't say his name, 630 00:26:17,224 --> 00:26:19,784 Speaker 3: but she will talk about it. It goes fine under 631 00:26:19,784 --> 00:26:23,344 Speaker 3: an hour. It's a comedy special. You definitely will laugh. 632 00:26:23,424 --> 00:26:26,184 Speaker 3: There were some moments that I audibly laughed out loud, 633 00:26:26,744 --> 00:26:28,304 Speaker 3: like when she was talking about that she wants a 634 00:26:28,304 --> 00:26:30,624 Speaker 3: divorced man for a boyfriend. She's happy to have sex 635 00:26:30,664 --> 00:26:32,504 Speaker 3: with younger men and older man, but she was like, 636 00:26:32,784 --> 00:26:35,824 Speaker 3: I want someone that's been pre yelled at that. 637 00:26:36,864 --> 00:26:38,664 Speaker 1: I was crying with laughter. 638 00:26:38,664 --> 00:26:40,904 Speaker 3: And then when she's talking about like she wants a 639 00:26:40,904 --> 00:26:44,664 Speaker 3: divorced man, she you know, another woman's trash is my 640 00:26:44,824 --> 00:26:48,184 Speaker 3: trained trash. Like I just thought it was really honest 641 00:26:48,304 --> 00:26:49,824 Speaker 3: and also funny. 642 00:26:49,904 --> 00:26:52,344 Speaker 1: I loved that. I did get very uncomfortable with the 643 00:26:52,384 --> 00:26:55,784 Speaker 1: sex things. Laura, Oh you did, oh tell me about you? Well? 644 00:26:55,784 --> 00:26:57,464 Speaker 3: I used to be a bit of a bit of 645 00:26:57,504 --> 00:27:00,864 Speaker 3: an animal. But now I just get so uncomfortable when 646 00:27:00,904 --> 00:27:05,024 Speaker 3: people are talking explicitly, and I'm just like, oh, my goodness, 647 00:27:05,064 --> 00:27:08,304 Speaker 3: like she made some really I was. 648 00:27:08,424 --> 00:27:11,224 Speaker 1: Walled by this. I was so uncomfortable. 649 00:27:11,264 --> 00:27:14,784 Speaker 3: It was funny, but she just went into such graphic details. 650 00:27:14,784 --> 00:27:18,424 Speaker 1: She was like, fie fo fum eat my pussy. And 651 00:27:18,464 --> 00:27:22,904 Speaker 1: I was like, you like, jump behind your couch. I'm like, 652 00:27:24,224 --> 00:27:26,024 Speaker 1: is it okay? Is it okay to come out now? 653 00:27:26,384 --> 00:27:27,744 Speaker 1: Why don't think that changes happened? 654 00:27:27,744 --> 00:27:28,344 Speaker 2: You are? 655 00:27:28,344 --> 00:27:29,144 Speaker 1: You just too tired? 656 00:27:29,224 --> 00:27:32,064 Speaker 5: And I'm getting all blushy even just thinking about her 657 00:27:32,104 --> 00:27:37,544 Speaker 5: talking about her sexual escapade. So I was, oh, when 658 00:27:37,624 --> 00:27:40,784 Speaker 5: I had a baby, my vagina just it's like a 659 00:27:40,824 --> 00:27:43,064 Speaker 5: tumble shut down, the litter assist, the tumbloids. 660 00:27:43,064 --> 00:27:45,144 Speaker 3: It's just like in the wind. And I would rather 661 00:27:45,304 --> 00:27:47,704 Speaker 3: never be touched sexually in my life everything. So when 662 00:27:47,784 --> 00:27:50,544 Speaker 3: other people are like talking about leaning into this sexuality, 663 00:27:50,544 --> 00:27:54,264 Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, pearl clutching makes me very uncomfortable. 664 00:27:54,264 --> 00:27:56,184 Speaker 1: And she, I mean, good on it, but she is 665 00:27:56,264 --> 00:27:58,264 Speaker 1: getting dicked and she's happy about it. 666 00:27:58,504 --> 00:28:01,624 Speaker 3: She's got some great tales the young men she does 667 00:28:01,704 --> 00:28:03,544 Speaker 3: point out, And I think this is very accurate. 668 00:28:03,784 --> 00:28:05,464 Speaker 1: It helps that she's like rich. 669 00:28:05,824 --> 00:28:08,504 Speaker 3: Yes, Like it's actually the perfect age to be divorced 670 00:28:08,504 --> 00:28:10,344 Speaker 3: because you can go super old and you can also 671 00:28:10,464 --> 00:28:12,424 Speaker 3: goes too beer young. When you're in the fifties, you 672 00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,224 Speaker 3: can't have sex with twenty year old were you cook? 673 00:28:14,264 --> 00:28:17,064 Speaker 3: But it's very slightly but some reason like and twenty 674 00:28:17,104 --> 00:28:17,984 Speaker 3: year old dude'ess. 675 00:28:17,704 --> 00:28:19,744 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to get that cool garirl, 676 00:28:19,824 --> 00:28:22,624 Speaker 1: I'm going to get that milk. So I liked it. 677 00:28:22,704 --> 00:28:24,344 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I loved it, but maybe it was 678 00:28:24,424 --> 00:28:26,384 Speaker 3: just because I'm a bit of a prude these days 679 00:28:26,384 --> 00:28:27,184 Speaker 3: that I didn't love it. 680 00:28:27,384 --> 00:28:29,744 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that recommendation on Netflix. Yeah, yes, 681 00:28:29,904 --> 00:28:32,824 Speaker 2: on Netflix, Yes, I love that. Okay, going on a 682 00:28:32,824 --> 00:28:36,144 Speaker 2: slightly different tact, I am recommending a new dark comedy 683 00:28:36,224 --> 00:28:39,864 Speaker 2: with serial killer undertones or overtones because they're just sometimes 684 00:28:39,864 --> 00:28:41,864 Speaker 2: they're just some brutal murder in this show. Okay, it's 685 00:28:41,904 --> 00:28:43,624 Speaker 2: called Sweet Pea. It's just come out. 686 00:28:43,744 --> 00:28:45,584 Speaker 1: It does not sound like a murder show. Well, I'll 687 00:28:45,624 --> 00:28:46,424 Speaker 1: explain the name shore. 688 00:28:46,464 --> 00:28:48,264 Speaker 2: I know. It's really when I first, like months ago, 689 00:28:48,304 --> 00:28:49,784 Speaker 2: when you get listened to new shows that are coming out, 690 00:28:49,864 --> 00:28:51,824 Speaker 2: like Sweet Pea, cute, and then I saw it and 691 00:28:51,824 --> 00:28:53,664 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this is quite intense, but 692 00:28:53,704 --> 00:28:55,944 Speaker 2: I really liked it. So it stars Ella Pernell, who 693 00:28:56,024 --> 00:28:57,424 Speaker 2: a lot of people would know from. She's on that 694 00:28:57,504 --> 00:28:59,784 Speaker 2: show fall Out. She's also in Yellow Jackets, and I 695 00:28:59,784 --> 00:29:02,264 Speaker 2: also loved her in Sweet Bitter, which another comfort show 696 00:29:02,264 --> 00:29:03,744 Speaker 2: if you're looking for one, where she plays a girl 697 00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:06,184 Speaker 2: at a restaurant. So Ella Panel stars as a young 698 00:29:06,184 --> 00:29:09,064 Speaker 2: woman called Rihanna, and she's twenty six and she works 699 00:29:09,104 --> 00:29:12,784 Speaker 2: as an assistant this little newspaper, and basically she's just 700 00:29:12,824 --> 00:29:16,344 Speaker 2: the ultimate kind of warflower, overlooked girl. At the beginning, 701 00:29:16,344 --> 00:29:18,544 Speaker 2: you kind of see her constantly have this internal monologue 702 00:29:18,544 --> 00:29:20,224 Speaker 2: where she's got like a list of people she wants 703 00:29:20,224 --> 00:29:22,464 Speaker 2: to kill. And that's because, I thinks take a turn. 704 00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:25,744 Speaker 2: Because she was bullied terribly in high school to the 705 00:29:25,744 --> 00:29:28,224 Speaker 2: point she started pulling out her own hand. As an adult, 706 00:29:28,504 --> 00:29:31,184 Speaker 2: the bully comes back into her life. Everyone at work 707 00:29:31,224 --> 00:29:34,104 Speaker 2: treats her terribly. Her boss calls her sweet Pea and 708 00:29:34,184 --> 00:29:35,544 Speaker 2: kind of laughs at her when she kind of gets 709 00:29:35,584 --> 00:29:38,024 Speaker 2: at the courage shats for promotion, and her father's about 710 00:29:38,024 --> 00:29:40,504 Speaker 2: to pass away. Her sister's treating her terribly, so everyone 711 00:29:40,504 --> 00:29:42,584 Speaker 2: in her life just kind of treats her awfully, and 712 00:29:42,584 --> 00:29:44,824 Speaker 2: because she's had that for so long, she regresses into 713 00:29:44,824 --> 00:29:49,424 Speaker 2: this really timid wallflower. And then something happens where she 714 00:29:49,504 --> 00:29:53,824 Speaker 2: just snaps and she discovers that maybe murder and murdering 715 00:29:53,864 --> 00:29:56,144 Speaker 2: people who have wronged her is a way for her 716 00:29:56,184 --> 00:29:59,104 Speaker 2: to find herself. And so it is a dark comedy 717 00:29:59,144 --> 00:30:00,384 Speaker 2: with quite a bit of murder in it. 718 00:30:01,184 --> 00:30:02,424 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rihanna and Lewis. 719 00:30:03,344 --> 00:30:05,744 Speaker 4: Sometimes I make a list of people who make me 720 00:30:05,784 --> 00:30:10,264 Speaker 4: feel invisible. Yeah, Donna in the mini market, who is 721 00:30:10,344 --> 00:30:14,784 Speaker 4: I'm never happy to help you. Norman from work for 722 00:30:14,904 --> 00:30:19,624 Speaker 4: failing to acknowledge my potential, Julia blanking the bully who 723 00:30:19,664 --> 00:30:23,064 Speaker 4: ruined my life. I've got scoop for you. 724 00:30:23,264 --> 00:30:23,704 Speaker 1: So Murder. 725 00:30:25,744 --> 00:30:27,064 Speaker 4: Wasn't expecting that. 726 00:30:29,344 --> 00:30:32,464 Speaker 1: You made me feel invisible. You didn't exist to me 727 00:30:32,584 --> 00:30:36,304 Speaker 1: then and you don't now. You ruined my life. 728 00:30:36,904 --> 00:30:38,824 Speaker 2: It's a really good watch. And Ella Panel is such 729 00:30:38,864 --> 00:30:39,864 Speaker 2: a good actress. 730 00:30:39,544 --> 00:30:41,584 Speaker 1: Like she's so watch this. 731 00:30:41,824 --> 00:30:43,664 Speaker 2: I think you would really like this because it starts 732 00:30:43,664 --> 00:30:47,024 Speaker 2: all so funny and it's. 733 00:30:45,744 --> 00:30:46,584 Speaker 1: Bought straight away. 734 00:30:46,624 --> 00:30:48,304 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's such a good watch. Like I said, 735 00:30:48,344 --> 00:30:50,344 Speaker 2: it is a dark comedy. The writing's really sharp, but 736 00:30:50,464 --> 00:30:52,384 Speaker 2: it is, like you know, quite intense and bloody and 737 00:30:52,464 --> 00:30:55,304 Speaker 2: violent in some parts. They dropped the whole season, so 738 00:30:55,464 --> 00:30:58,264 Speaker 2: six episodes on beings are ready to watch, Sweetpea, I 739 00:30:58,264 --> 00:30:59,784 Speaker 2: actually think you should watch this. I would love to 740 00:30:59,824 --> 00:31:00,224 Speaker 2: know your foot. 741 00:31:00,264 --> 00:31:01,464 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna watch and let you know. 742 00:31:01,744 --> 00:31:04,104 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for listening to the spill today. 743 00:31:04,424 --> 00:31:07,504 Speaker 2: And if you want more, I guess very heightened conversations 744 00:31:07,504 --> 00:31:10,304 Speaker 2: about TV, you need to listen to our brillily honest 745 00:31:10,464 --> 00:31:12,584 Speaker 2: review of Nobody Wants This if you scroll back in 746 00:31:12,584 --> 00:31:12,944 Speaker 2: your feed. 747 00:31:12,984 --> 00:31:14,344 Speaker 1: We dropped that last Friday. 748 00:31:15,024 --> 00:31:17,264 Speaker 2: Just a very intense conversation about the biggest show that 749 00:31:17,304 --> 00:31:20,104 Speaker 2: everyone is talking about. And thank you so much to 750 00:31:20,184 --> 00:31:21,904 Speaker 2: Kelly for being here with us all week. 751 00:31:22,024 --> 00:31:23,864 Speaker 3: Yes, and you can hear me on the rig over 752 00:31:23,944 --> 00:31:26,904 Speaker 3: on You Beauty and Mama Me's Daily Beauty podcast. 753 00:31:26,784 --> 00:31:28,784 Speaker 2: And we'll see you back here in our podcast feed 754 00:31:28,864 --> 00:31:29,984 Speaker 2: at three pm Monday. 755 00:31:30,144 --> 00:31:36,624 Speaker 1: Bye bye