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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea.

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Speaker 2: Podcast from MoMA Mia. Welcome to the Bill, your daily

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Speaker 2: pop culture fixed. I'm Lower Britney and I'm and coming

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Speaker 2: up on the show today. Look, I must make her attraction.

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Speaker 2: I don't normally do this, but last week I said

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Speaker 2: Timothy Chalame's career after the Oscars blowout and the whole

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Speaker 2: opera Ballei thing. I said it was going to be okay, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be okay. His biggest fan has

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Speaker 2: deserted him. We're going to get into that. A cultural

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Speaker 2: moment is taking place right now as we speak, with

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Speaker 2: this unfollowing of Timothy Challamey plus Megan Markle say no more,

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Speaker 2: Say no more again. We have no beef with that woman,

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Speaker 2: but some very powerful men at Netflix do. And there's

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Speaker 2: also the whole Yeah, I haven't even told you about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Plus you have some information about

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Speaker 2: her Australian retreat. We're going to get into. Hell. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hope you're going.

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Speaker 1: To that sponsor mate for listing. It's way too much money.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say we should get Mamma to buys

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Speaker 2: a ticket, but I don't know if that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: on my.

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Speaker 1: What if we go as one person and then we

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Speaker 1: just keep swapping.

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Speaker 2: Out, say what, you stand on my shoulders and we

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Speaker 2: wear a long beige trench. We could do that.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking more like a parent trap situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we look exactly the same. No one

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Speaker 2: go to YouTube and check that.

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Speaker 1: It will work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you often pretend to be meat events all

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Speaker 2: the time, but we've never swopped out the same event.

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Speaker 1: We should try that.

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Speaker 2: We'll workshop and we'll go back to you guys on

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Speaker 2: that how we're going to break into Megan Markle's austray

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Speaker 2: and retreat. But first, I have some news that I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't normally bring up on the podcast. This is just

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Speaker 2: for you. Still as you talk amongst yourselves the next

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Speaker 2: few minutes, why just tell Emily this Netflix.

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Speaker 1: It's already starting good.

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Speaker 2: Netflix has officially announced the lead cast for its new

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Speaker 2: Scooby Doo live action series.

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Speaker 1: Shut the hell up. I was gonna say a bad word,

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Speaker 1: but I also said a different bad word. Hell. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited, very nervous, because, as you know, the first

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Speaker 1: Scooby Doo live action movie is a cinematic masterpiece that

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Speaker 1: I believe deserved many OSCAR nominations and many Oscar wins.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I don't quite feel the same

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Speaker 2: way as you do about the Scooby Doo movie. But

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Speaker 2: I must say that cast of the original live action

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Speaker 2: Scooby Doo movie ten out of ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Michelle Geller, I was previously established greatest actress of

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Speaker 2: our time. Freddie Prince Junior also a very nice man,

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Speaker 2: cute to look at, seems very nice. Matthew Lillard one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite actors. And Linda Cardelini, who had come

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Speaker 2: from Freaks and Geeks into that movie and was incredible

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Speaker 1: Neil Fanning, Okay, the voice of Scooby Doo. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: He's I don't know if he's in this new series.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this makes me so stressed, because how can you

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Speaker 1: beat a masterpiece?

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Speaker 2: Oh, to be honest, I'm not trying to start any beef.

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Speaker 2: He's potentially, isn't it. I didn't think to look up

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Speaker 2: who was voicing Scooby Doo, and it's not in the

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Speaker 1: I reckon it's AI.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they're going to cast someone to play Scooby Doo.

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Speaker 2: It's live action.

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Speaker 1: You think they're gonna cast a person to place give me.

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Speaker 2: The I don't know dog. Maybe. So Netflix is taking

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Speaker 2: this really seriously in their official pressure release, which I

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Speaker 2: find this information myself. This is old school journalism. They

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Speaker 2: were like, for more than fifty years, Scooby Doo has

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Speaker 1: I should have written this. I would have done great

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Speaker 2: So they're actually taking it really seriously because they're li

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Speaker 2: were also likning it to Stranger Things interesting in terms

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Speaker 1: Quite scary though, so I hope they don't go too scary. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just always meant to be a man in a mask.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, in the press release, just before they announce

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Speaker 2: how do you want to do that? So I printed

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Speaker 1: Actual kids, because I'm not going to know any of

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Speaker 2: printed it out. But this is what's been released, So okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll just show you. You can tell me who

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Speaker 2: I will okay who they are? Okay. The cast of

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Speaker 2: the new live action Scooby Doo aka you're upcoming your

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Speaker 1: Oh, McKenna Gray.

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Speaker 2: But Kenna Grace. And before anyone says, can that girl

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Speaker 1: Leave her alone, she's the best.

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Speaker 2: She's just literally in every I.

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Speaker 1: make a really good Daphanie. I actually like that.

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Speaker 2: So she is cast as Daphne. Yes, she was recently

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Speaker 2: That was one of her breakout roles. Yeah, she's getting

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Speaker 2: you know what, don't you girls have the way edited?

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Speaker 2: Have we not learned from most? Sorry? The girl's just

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Speaker 2: Daphne Blake. Did you know all the last names of

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Speaker 2: the Scooby Doo cast?

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Speaker 1: Yes, obviously, and also Scooby Doo's full name is Scubert.

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Speaker 2: So what yeah, no, scoob Bert yep.

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Speaker 1: Scuobert Scooby Doo. Scooby Doos is nickname? Like you call

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Speaker 1: me em for my full names Emily.

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Speaker 2: Scooby, nickname Scoober Scoober.

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Speaker 1: I promise you produce someone as to look this up.

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Speaker 2: Scooby is a nickname? Why do I feel betrayed by that?

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Speaker 1: Like as in like, well Scoob it's like Scubert Scoob

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Speaker 2: Oh, I feel really betrayed it. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I thought his full name was Scooby Doo Scuba. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone know who's had home.

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Speaker 1: Is he's a formal guy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know Scooby comes from a rich family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I didn't know any of this law. I

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Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, I tried to find

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Speaker 1: like the earliest earliest cartoons of Scooby Doo and because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just watched them more. Okay, Well, I

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Speaker 2: can't believe Netflix doesn't have you on as a consultant

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Speaker 1: Meroger riders for this show. This is insane, Okay. So

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Speaker 1: then we have Tanner Hagen. He's playing Shaggy Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Shaggy Rogers again from the pit. And then Abby

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Speaker 2: Ryder Fultson is playing Velma Dinkley. I didn't know Velma's

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Speaker 2: last name. She's from Are You there? Got? It's Me Margaret,

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Speaker 2: It's okay, you would really like it, but I think

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Speaker 2: Jenkins as Fred Jones. He's from Lost in Space.

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Speaker 2: It's an iconic TV show based on also a movie.

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Speaker 2: It's about a family to gets lost in space.

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Speaker 1: So they've all, oh, che's your worst my man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's got some experience and they're like getting

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Speaker 2: at their faces. Thoughts feelings were casting as well done.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I mean Tanna just looks very like a

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Speaker 2: Oh and you think he's too hot to play Shaggy.

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Speaker 1: Well, Shaggy is also hot, but like in his own

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe Matthew Lillard. Yeah, I think you've animated the Shaggy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, he's like he's like goofy and like.

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Speaker 2: He's like I think the casting action just from the

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Speaker 2: visual point of it, I think the casting looks pretty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just like, I.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to be like one of those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ruin a good thing?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Can I say they're actually trying to make it a

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Speaker 2: little bit different than previous iteration scene? Why? Okay? So

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Speaker 2: how the original series should have always showed them together.

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Speaker 2: The movie showed them kind of like broken off and

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Speaker 2: coming back together as like proper adults.

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Speaker 1: No, because that's because they had to come together with

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to say Okay, you can spoil Scooby.

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Speaker 1: But like there's a plot twist at the end, and

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Speaker 1: Up to three hundred women are going. Starting cost for

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Speaker 1: Well, he was sitting with Megan Markle over a glass

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Speaker 2: the streets of Sydney dangerous. And now Megan Markle's going

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Speaker 2: and she can't. She's been through so much she can't

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Speaker 1: And like, if you're going to cookie, you want to

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Speaker 1: this like stuff was washing up. When could she be

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Speaker 2: Oh the balls there were sewage.

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Speaker 1: There was sewage and like hair and like chemicals. So

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Speaker 1: she can't. She already knows she can't go swimming in

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Speaker 2: And if you don't go on the ocean, you got

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Speaker 2: I think Megan Michkele would care about this. You can

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00:18:28,114 --> 00:18:31,234
Speaker 2: go into the baths, yeah, the ladies' bar, but they're

437
00:18:31,234 --> 00:18:34,354
Speaker 2: full of the sea urchins. Oh imagine if it's Megamarkele,

438
00:18:34,354 --> 00:18:35,714
Speaker 2: because last time I was there, I was flowing. I

439
00:18:35,794 --> 00:18:37,794
Speaker 2: was like literally floating, and I looked down there was

440
00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:38,793
Speaker 2: about fifty sea.

441
00:18:38,754 --> 00:18:39,994
Speaker 1: Urchins stepped on one before.

442
00:18:40,074 --> 00:18:41,793
Speaker 2: No, but I've heard and also you know how I

443
00:18:41,834 --> 00:18:43,474
Speaker 2: know to be scared of them because it's Taylor Swift's

444
00:18:43,474 --> 00:18:46,634
Speaker 2: biggest fear and when she has the greatest fear, Yeah, no,

445
00:18:47,034 --> 00:18:49,234
Speaker 2: it is her biggest fear. Oh wow, and I know

446
00:18:49,314 --> 00:18:53,234
Speaker 2: it's excruciating pain. Yeah, so that kind of happened to Megamarkle.

447
00:18:53,314 --> 00:18:54,314
Speaker 1: I've seen my friends.

448
00:18:54,314 --> 00:18:57,994
Speaker 2: Strangerson is going to like shut us down. My friends

449
00:18:57,994 --> 00:18:59,074
Speaker 2: stepped on my sea.

450
00:18:59,034 --> 00:19:02,914
Speaker 1: Urchin once and like, did she die no, no, but

451
00:19:02,954 --> 00:19:04,714
Speaker 1: like the needle was stuck in her foot for like

452
00:19:04,754 --> 00:19:05,114
Speaker 1: a week.

453
00:19:05,194 --> 00:19:07,714
Speaker 2: That's what Taylor Swift said could happen, and like you're foot.

454
00:19:07,434 --> 00:19:10,553
Speaker 1: Like starts peeling and like bleeding until you get the

455
00:19:10,594 --> 00:19:12,314
Speaker 1: needle out, but it's so hard to get that.

456
00:19:12,354 --> 00:19:14,634
Speaker 2: Can't happen to Megan Market anyway. I don't think she's

457
00:19:14,674 --> 00:19:16,154
Speaker 2: going in those beaches.

458
00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:19,514
Speaker 1: But surely she'd like a little spar sash at the intercontinent.

459
00:19:19,514 --> 00:19:21,234
Speaker 2: I know, I mean. And the thing is she had

460
00:19:21,234 --> 00:19:22,794
Speaker 2: I know she to say, we've been through a lot,

461
00:19:22,834 --> 00:19:24,994
Speaker 2: but even recently she's been in the headlines for many things.

462
00:19:25,194 --> 00:19:26,954
Speaker 2: One quick thing is like, it's interesting that she's coming

463
00:19:26,994 --> 00:19:29,954
Speaker 2: back to Australia because remember her first big Austrayantur was

464
00:19:30,154 --> 00:19:32,194
Speaker 2: not that long after she and Harry got married and

465
00:19:32,234 --> 00:19:35,274
Speaker 2: she was pregnant with Archie. Yeah twenty eighteen and yeah

466
00:19:35,394 --> 00:19:36,434
Speaker 2: important hear for all of us.

467
00:19:36,514 --> 00:19:38,553
Speaker 1: And it's when I started, mom, Maya. I think I

468
00:19:38,554 --> 00:19:40,034
Speaker 1: started like a week after she got here.

469
00:19:40,274 --> 00:19:41,513
Speaker 2: Oh, and you were just like this is all we do,

470
00:19:41,594 --> 00:19:42,514
Speaker 2: is right about mom? Yeah?

471
00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:45,033
Speaker 1: Megan Marke I literally missed the whole like Megan Markle thing.

472
00:19:45,074 --> 00:19:46,674
Speaker 1: And everyone was talking about how great it was, and

473
00:19:46,714 --> 00:19:47,954
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I feel left out.

474
00:19:47,994 --> 00:19:49,874
Speaker 2: Oh you missed her, Oh you missed her wedding.

475
00:19:50,514 --> 00:19:51,034
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.

476
00:19:51,114 --> 00:19:53,553
Speaker 2: Oh No, that's lucky because I was working here then

477
00:19:53,634 --> 00:19:55,714
Speaker 2: that was a very intense time a couples of the

478
00:19:55,754 --> 00:19:56,994
Speaker 2: time I worked here and I didn't know you. Wasn't

479
00:19:57,034 --> 00:20:00,234
Speaker 2: that crazy? It's wrong because that does seem wrong. No,

480
00:20:00,274 --> 00:20:02,754
Speaker 2: but Megan Michael then later on said that she kind

481
00:20:02,754 --> 00:20:05,033
Speaker 2: of like not regretted, but she looked back on her

482
00:20:05,274 --> 00:20:08,033
Speaker 2: tour of Australia in a d diferent way because she

483
00:20:08,114 --> 00:20:09,954
Speaker 2: was hurting so much and like that's when all the

484
00:20:09,994 --> 00:20:12,553
Speaker 2: Royal family stress was starting to happen, and that she

485
00:20:12,714 --> 00:20:15,834
Speaker 2: kind of basically had a terrible time. I'm paraphrasing, but

486
00:20:15,834 --> 00:20:17,513
Speaker 2: basically she came out and gave all these interviews that

487
00:20:17,554 --> 00:20:19,874
Speaker 2: she had a terrible time while in Australia, and then

488
00:20:19,874 --> 00:20:21,034
Speaker 2: a lot of the check.

489
00:20:20,914 --> 00:20:22,914
Speaker 1: It wasn't it alledge that she said when she was

490
00:20:22,994 --> 00:20:25,314
Speaker 1: leaving Australia, I can't believe I didn't get paid for this.

491
00:20:25,594 --> 00:20:29,034
Speaker 2: Yeah, alleged, We don't know. There's so many sneer camp.

492
00:20:29,114 --> 00:20:30,674
Speaker 1: A lot of people know about this allegation.

493
00:20:31,194 --> 00:20:33,513
Speaker 2: I know, well, exactly. Think about all the allegations, you know,

494
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:35,793
Speaker 2: because people have put them out there trying to like

495
00:20:35,914 --> 00:20:36,354
Speaker 2: bring her.

496
00:20:36,474 --> 00:20:39,074
Speaker 1: You know, it was the best podcast before they got here.

497
00:20:39,914 --> 00:20:44,154
Speaker 2: Kidding, we still want a ticket, Please invite us. I'll

498
00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:45,594
Speaker 2: help with the construction.

499
00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:48,874
Speaker 1: A hard hat. Yeah, I'll do whatever it takes to

500
00:20:50,154 --> 00:20:52,154
Speaker 1: I love to see Megan Markle me.

501
00:20:52,074 --> 00:20:54,354
Speaker 2: Too, but I yeah. So what I'm it's industry is

502
00:20:54,394 --> 00:20:56,114
Speaker 2: come back to Australia. I'm deserately trying to make this

503
00:20:56,114 --> 00:20:59,914
Speaker 2: a real segment, you know, is that she talked about

504
00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:02,194
Speaker 2: like having a bad time in Australia because everything was

505
00:21:02,234 --> 00:21:03,714
Speaker 2: going on, and a lot of people who went to

506
00:21:03,754 --> 00:21:05,914
Speaker 2: see her felt a bit betrayed because they're like, oh, well,

507
00:21:05,914 --> 00:21:08,394
Speaker 2: I waited in line for hours and she shook my

508
00:21:08,474 --> 00:21:10,674
Speaker 2: hand and I thought that she was happy to be here,

509
00:21:10,674 --> 00:21:12,394
Speaker 2: and then she wasn't. And then I think people also

510
00:21:12,434 --> 00:21:14,394
Speaker 2: then when they the full extent of what had happened

511
00:21:14,394 --> 00:21:16,154
Speaker 2: to her behind the scenes, and her mental health and

512
00:21:16,194 --> 00:21:18,714
Speaker 2: the bullying and everything she was going through, then people

513
00:21:18,754 --> 00:21:20,394
Speaker 2: came back around again and we're like, oh my god,

514
00:21:20,394 --> 00:21:22,394
Speaker 2: what that poor woman having to go through all of

515
00:21:22,434 --> 00:21:24,874
Speaker 2: this while being pregnant. So what I'm saying is like

516
00:21:25,074 --> 00:21:26,714
Speaker 2: there's a lot of kind of history with her in

517
00:21:26,754 --> 00:21:29,714
Speaker 2: Australia in that way, so maybe this time she'll just

518
00:21:29,714 --> 00:21:31,514
Speaker 2: come back and if we can keep her away from

519
00:21:31,554 --> 00:21:34,874
Speaker 2: the unfinished pools and the sea urchins and any possible asbestos,

520
00:21:34,914 --> 00:21:36,874
Speaker 2: we can keep her away from that, she can have

521
00:21:36,914 --> 00:21:38,553
Speaker 2: a good Australian troth. How do you think the.

522
00:21:38,554 --> 00:21:41,394
Speaker 1: Perception of her being in Australia is for Australias because

523
00:21:41,394 --> 00:21:43,074
Speaker 1: I feel like we're quite excited to have her.

524
00:21:43,274 --> 00:21:45,594
Speaker 2: I think we're quite excited too. I think I already

525
00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:48,394
Speaker 2: know kind of what the press around it's going to be,

526
00:21:48,754 --> 00:21:50,834
Speaker 2: and it's going to be very much like she did

527
00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:53,394
Speaker 2: this wrong. You just know that someone has already pre

528
00:21:53,474 --> 00:21:56,834
Speaker 2: written an article about how her presence at this event

529
00:21:56,914 --> 00:21:58,474
Speaker 2: was a let down and people were upset and they

530
00:21:58,474 --> 00:22:00,553
Speaker 2: didn't like their goodie bags and stuff. And it's like

531
00:22:00,634 --> 00:22:03,314
Speaker 2: that stuff is already predetermined before she's done anything.

532
00:22:03,394 --> 00:22:06,314
Speaker 1: And it's also not her retreat, like she's going as

533
00:22:06,314 --> 00:22:06,754
Speaker 1: a guest.

534
00:22:06,994 --> 00:22:08,674
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be things about like I just think

535
00:22:08,674 --> 00:22:11,994
Speaker 2: the public perception has turned so much, and like I

536
00:22:11,994 --> 00:22:15,034
Speaker 2: think people really like her, but people who like her

537
00:22:15,114 --> 00:22:18,674
Speaker 2: don't click on nice stories about her, the way that

538
00:22:18,714 --> 00:22:21,234
Speaker 2: people who don't like her click on bad stories about her.

539
00:22:21,394 --> 00:22:23,114
Speaker 2: That's so true and so and even this week, if

540
00:22:23,114 --> 00:22:25,074
Speaker 2: you just open your phone on any day, there's a

541
00:22:25,074 --> 00:22:27,114
Speaker 2: bad story about Megan Markul This week, it's one of

542
00:22:27,154 --> 00:22:29,994
Speaker 2: the higher ups at Netflix ten surround us unfollowing her

543
00:22:30,074 --> 00:22:33,994
Speaker 2: and her company on Instagram along with other Netflix big executives.

544
00:22:34,154 --> 00:22:36,474
Speaker 2: Right because apparently well again he hasn't said, but he

545
00:22:36,674 --> 00:22:38,234
Speaker 2: like they have some things in the past that like

546
00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:40,714
Speaker 2: their partnership with them was bad and like it didn't

547
00:22:40,754 --> 00:22:42,994
Speaker 2: work out, and like they're grifters and all these sorts

548
00:22:42,994 --> 00:22:43,793
Speaker 2: of things her.

549
00:22:43,834 --> 00:22:44,354
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

550
00:22:44,514 --> 00:22:47,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a grown man. Come on, Ted, you can't

551
00:22:47,714 --> 00:22:49,674
Speaker 2: be doing that. Yeah, but I al my company.

552
00:22:49,714 --> 00:22:52,114
Speaker 1: I wanted to say with gem o' neil, like talking

553
00:22:52,194 --> 00:22:54,994
Speaker 1: about Megan Markle, she even said that she herself was

554
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:57,194
Speaker 1: nervous and she said that she nearly turned it down,

555
00:22:57,914 --> 00:22:59,594
Speaker 1: but like this is like a huge reason. But I

556
00:22:59,594 --> 00:23:02,754
Speaker 1: think more of the reason, like having someone that's so established,

557
00:23:02,794 --> 00:23:05,834
Speaker 1: that's so well known that she admires so much to

558
00:23:05,874 --> 00:23:08,594
Speaker 1: come do this event just like a huge, huge deal

559
00:23:08,754 --> 00:23:11,634
Speaker 1: for like a podcast in Australia. Absolutely, and I just

560
00:23:11,714 --> 00:23:13,793
Speaker 1: think there's going to be like so like three hundred

561
00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:16,793
Speaker 1: women at least that are like so excited to just

562
00:23:16,914 --> 00:23:19,994
Speaker 1: hear her talk. She rarely does these kind of appearances.

563
00:23:20,194 --> 00:23:22,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially not here. Oh man, I would love to

564
00:23:22,474 --> 00:23:24,074
Speaker 2: just have it. I didn't even have to record it,

565
00:23:24,234 --> 00:23:25,674
Speaker 2: film or anything. I just want to have a glass

566
00:23:25,674 --> 00:23:27,754
Speaker 2: of why A Michael. I just think that'd be so fun.

567
00:23:27,834 --> 00:23:30,874
Speaker 1: Some bitch diesel maybe Yeah, Oh my god, I can

568
00:23:30,914 --> 00:23:32,033
Speaker 1: see you guys getting along.

569
00:23:32,154 --> 00:23:34,634
Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously we're both so basic and the best way possible,

570
00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:36,714
Speaker 2: because I would just have no. I would tell her

571
00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:38,954
Speaker 2: I can't do I can't write presents. Yeah, and I

572
00:23:38,954 --> 00:23:40,594
Speaker 2: feel like she wouldn't judge me, but she'd show me

573
00:23:40,634 --> 00:23:41,394
Speaker 2: how to do it. Yeah.

574
00:23:41,394 --> 00:23:42,593
Speaker 1: And she'll teach you how to write.

575
00:23:42,834 --> 00:23:46,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, as in like my hand running.

576
00:23:46,994 --> 00:23:49,114
Speaker 1: You can't write. You're a writer. You can't do I.

577
00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:50,794
Speaker 2: Can type, I can't write. That was a fairst.

578
00:23:50,874 --> 00:23:51,914
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys can swap.

579
00:23:52,154 --> 00:23:53,833
Speaker 2: I was about to say, what kind of thing can

580
00:23:53,874 --> 00:23:55,394
Speaker 2: you do? You think I can often make a markle

581
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,033
Speaker 2: and you can write, teacher, I think I can do. No.

582
00:23:58,314 --> 00:23:59,834
Speaker 1: You know what, you can teach her how to have

583
00:23:59,914 --> 00:24:02,474
Speaker 1: a hard hitting opinion, because when you're in that line

584
00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:04,274
Speaker 1: of work. You're not allowed to have big opinions. Yeah,

585
00:24:04,314 --> 00:24:05,553
Speaker 1: and you can be like, this is how you have

586
00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:06,073
Speaker 1: an opinion?

587
00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:08,593
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that's what. It's a cligoriphy lesson. All right,

588
00:24:08,634 --> 00:24:11,354
Speaker 2: we'll keep you, keep you posted on the Megan mikel

589
00:24:11,394 --> 00:24:14,074
Speaker 2: coming to Australia. We'll keep you post on the Intercontinental.

590
00:24:14,434 --> 00:24:16,994
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get a ticket now? Absolutely not?

591
00:24:16,994 --> 00:24:18,314
Speaker 2: Not after that that's done.

592
00:24:18,394 --> 00:24:20,354
Speaker 1: What if we get a job by the Intercontinental?

593
00:24:20,594 --> 00:24:25,874
Speaker 2: All right, let's go for it. An application? Okay, another

594
00:24:25,874 --> 00:24:29,394
Speaker 2: piece of breaking, hard hitting news for today. So every

595
00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:30,634
Speaker 2: segment today has just been like.

596
00:24:31,074 --> 00:24:34,194
Speaker 1: Important, but also I mean it is quite important. If

597
00:24:34,194 --> 00:24:36,834
Speaker 1: Meganmark was talking to three hundred people and there's no pool.

598
00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:40,874
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not let's not dwell on. That's got another

599
00:24:40,954 --> 00:24:43,513
Speaker 2: drama to deal with. Okay. Now my first question to

600
00:24:43,554 --> 00:24:45,994
Speaker 2: you is do you know who Club Charlamagne is? Yes?

601
00:24:46,074 --> 00:24:46,273
Speaker 3: I do?

602
00:24:46,594 --> 00:24:49,034
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. I love her so much?

603
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:53,394
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah doing Chroma Simone Chromer a fifty nine

604
00:24:53,434 --> 00:24:56,554
Speaker 2: year old healthcare industry worker based in Los Angeles who

605
00:24:57,034 --> 00:24:59,154
Speaker 2: that wouldn't make her famous. What makes her famous is

606
00:24:59,154 --> 00:25:02,034
Speaker 2: that for many, many years she has been the founder

607
00:25:02,154 --> 00:25:04,834
Speaker 2: and the person who runs one of the biggest fans

608
00:25:04,834 --> 00:25:06,634
Speaker 2: if not the biggest fan account in the world.

609
00:25:06,594 --> 00:25:09,794
Speaker 1: And while your healthcare worker is crazy.

610
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,674
Speaker 2: Well, especially because she's sleep well, I don't think she

611
00:25:11,754 --> 00:25:14,674
Speaker 2: does considering what's been going on one of the yes,

612
00:25:14,794 --> 00:25:17,434
Speaker 2: biggest fan accounts in the world. Club Shallowby. Even calling

613
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:21,154
Speaker 2: it a fan account is not quite It's more but

614
00:25:21,234 --> 00:25:23,634
Speaker 2: a brand. It's a brand, it's a way of life.

615
00:25:23,674 --> 00:25:26,553
Speaker 2: It's an online piece of law and history that a

616
00:25:26,554 --> 00:25:29,394
Speaker 2: lot of people have gravitated towards over the years, and

617
00:25:29,514 --> 00:25:31,394
Speaker 2: it kind of stopped being just a fan account and

618
00:25:31,434 --> 00:25:34,474
Speaker 2: being like, yes, very much something that like makes its

619
00:25:34,514 --> 00:25:37,833
Speaker 2: own news headlines. I mean, this woman was profiled by

620
00:25:37,834 --> 00:25:40,074
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal, And can I tell you where

621
00:25:40,074 --> 00:25:43,954
Speaker 2: I got this information from the New York Times Around

622
00:25:43,954 --> 00:25:47,714
Speaker 2: this next thing about Cub Shallowy stepping away from covering

623
00:25:47,794 --> 00:25:52,314
Speaker 2: Timothy Shallowy if you can believe so this has all

624
00:25:52,354 --> 00:25:52,954
Speaker 2: come after.

625
00:25:52,794 --> 00:25:53,234
Speaker 1: And the realm.

626
00:25:53,674 --> 00:25:57,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, Can I just say, I don't think Timothy is

627
00:25:57,714 --> 00:25:59,434
Speaker 2: going to be overly upset by this. I think he

628
00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:01,834
Speaker 2: might be upset sometimes in terms of like the way

629
00:26:01,914 --> 00:26:05,994
Speaker 2: his fandom is reacting to his Oscar loss, and especially

630
00:26:06,034 --> 00:26:08,754
Speaker 2: as we've said a previous epist, so he's so famous.

631
00:26:08,834 --> 00:26:10,593
Speaker 2: He and Kilily gener is so rich. He has so

632
00:26:10,634 --> 00:26:13,594
Speaker 2: many massive movies in the pipeline. He'll be fine. But

633
00:26:13,834 --> 00:26:16,994
Speaker 2: if some of the anonymous accounts of Oscar voters, like

634
00:26:17,074 --> 00:26:19,474
Speaker 2: the older men who vote in his category and the Oscars,

635
00:26:19,754 --> 00:26:23,634
Speaker 2: some of them gave anonymous interviews to different like trade publications,

636
00:26:24,074 --> 00:26:26,834
Speaker 2: talking about how not the ballet and opera comments because

637
00:26:26,834 --> 00:26:30,394
Speaker 2: that happened after voting close but around how like apparently

638
00:26:30,474 --> 00:26:32,714
Speaker 2: he wasn't going to some of the events they hold

639
00:26:32,794 --> 00:26:34,594
Speaker 2: four people who are nominated for the Oscars, and you're

640
00:26:34,594 --> 00:26:36,634
Speaker 2: supposed to go and shmooze the events, or he was

641
00:26:36,674 --> 00:26:38,593
Speaker 2: turning up late, or just like the way he was

642
00:26:38,634 --> 00:26:41,594
Speaker 2: talking about like himself and his acting, that he robbed

643
00:26:41,594 --> 00:26:43,554
Speaker 2: a few voters the wrong way and that's what ultimately

644
00:26:43,554 --> 00:26:45,313
Speaker 2: lost him the Oscar. To Michael B.

645
00:26:45,474 --> 00:26:48,354
Speaker 1: Jordan, well he is egotistical but like but also he

646
00:26:48,394 --> 00:26:51,754
Speaker 1: would I was like, sorry, pot kettle, Yeah, the Oscar

647
00:26:51,794 --> 00:26:54,154
Speaker 1: voters in the best actor category, but they get very

648
00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:56,074
Speaker 1: good like this guy. He was exactly like me.

649
00:26:56,154 --> 00:26:58,154
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get very protective their legacy. So I think

650
00:26:58,154 --> 00:27:00,834
Speaker 2: maybe he's hearing all of that, and so maybe Charlot

651
00:27:00,914 --> 00:27:04,354
Speaker 2: may stopping covering him like that in itself wouldn't be upsetting,

652
00:27:04,354 --> 00:27:07,834
Speaker 2: but as a cumulative thing. So what's how is that

653
00:27:07,954 --> 00:27:12,994
Speaker 2: she's stopped posting recently after supporting him since twenty eighteen. Yeah,

654
00:27:13,034 --> 00:27:16,234
Speaker 2: that's how long it's been. She said that she has

655
00:27:16,274 --> 00:27:20,074
Speaker 2: found a lack of fulfillment from the chalamay Oscar quest.

656
00:27:20,354 --> 00:27:24,033
Speaker 2: Same girl, same lack of fulfillment. She never thought he

657
00:27:24,074 --> 00:27:26,594
Speaker 2: was going to win, she said, any of the potential

658
00:27:26,714 --> 00:27:29,834
Speaker 2: nine awards that Marty's Supreme was up for, and then.

659
00:27:29,754 --> 00:27:32,514
Speaker 1: Well she wrote a massive substack post about it. Yeah,

660
00:27:32,554 --> 00:27:34,314
Speaker 1: so she's been putting in the work.

661
00:27:34,594 --> 00:27:36,794
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and even two weeks for the Oscars, she said,

662
00:27:36,834 --> 00:27:38,914
Speaker 2: I've never wanted an Oscar season to end as much

663
00:27:38,954 --> 00:27:39,474
Speaker 2: as this one.

664
00:27:40,794 --> 00:27:44,234
Speaker 1: I can imagine if I had like Club Michael B.

665
00:27:44,354 --> 00:27:46,794
Speaker 2: Jordan, Yeah, which not the worst idea, not the.

666
00:27:46,754 --> 00:27:50,074
Speaker 1: Worst idea, but like the fact that the two of us,

667
00:27:50,194 --> 00:27:53,874
Speaker 1: who have like zero stakes in the Oscars were like

668
00:27:54,434 --> 00:27:57,914
Speaker 1: hyperventilating and so stressed out over like who was going

669
00:27:57,954 --> 00:27:59,874
Speaker 1: to win Best Actor. I can't even imagine what it

670
00:27:59,914 --> 00:28:00,914
Speaker 1: would have been like for her.

671
00:28:01,354 --> 00:28:03,434
Speaker 2: Exactly. And I think also because she's been such a

672
00:28:03,514 --> 00:28:06,553
Speaker 2: champion of him and like that he's this perfect person,

673
00:28:06,594 --> 00:28:08,514
Speaker 2: all these kind of things that maybe like the backlash

674
00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:11,793
Speaker 2: against him and him losing might have like contributed to it.

675
00:28:12,154 --> 00:28:14,754
Speaker 2: So on her private account, she's also gotten a bit sassy,

676
00:28:14,754 --> 00:28:18,274
Speaker 2: club shallowy. Someone else wrote a comment that said, defending

677
00:28:18,314 --> 00:28:21,114
Speaker 2: a person and then experiencing why nobody likes them is

678
00:28:21,194 --> 00:28:24,994
Speaker 2: very humbling and underneath club Challamey wrote, I feel so seen,

679
00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:28,474
Speaker 2: and she also said that she was thrilled for Michael B. Jordan.

680
00:28:28,834 --> 00:28:32,474
Speaker 1: Oh thank god, because I love Michael B. Jordan. There's

681
00:28:32,594 --> 00:28:34,314
Speaker 1: but she is pivoting.

682
00:28:34,634 --> 00:28:36,634
Speaker 2: She is pivoting. Yes, I was gonna get into like

683
00:28:36,634 --> 00:28:38,274
Speaker 2: a bit more about her about why actually this might

684
00:28:38,354 --> 00:28:40,434
Speaker 2: be good for Timmy's safety. But yes, she is pivoting.

685
00:28:40,754 --> 00:28:43,434
Speaker 2: She has a new young man that she's going to

686
00:28:43,514 --> 00:28:45,674
Speaker 2: be championing, and do you know who it is?

687
00:28:45,954 --> 00:28:47,954
Speaker 1: I do know who it is. Yeah, it's kind of

688
00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:50,034
Speaker 1: story from Peter Rivalry.

689
00:28:50,274 --> 00:28:54,274
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ilia Apparently she tried to start a Instagram page

690
00:28:54,474 --> 00:28:56,834
Speaker 2: called story Times and it was mass reported and got

691
00:28:56,834 --> 00:29:00,314
Speaker 2: taken down by Instagram allegedly, and now she instead she

692
00:29:00,354 --> 00:29:03,954
Speaker 2: has got a Tumbler devoted to him called story Glory.

693
00:29:04,514 --> 00:29:06,434
Speaker 1: Oh god, he should be scared.

694
00:29:06,914 --> 00:29:09,754
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's the thing about Club Shallow. Here's the thing.

695
00:29:09,954 --> 00:29:11,954
Speaker 2: Since we found when no one knew who she was,

696
00:29:11,954 --> 00:29:14,234
Speaker 2: everyone just assumed, like for better or for worse, that

697
00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:16,514
Speaker 2: it was like probably a young girl, just because of

698
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:20,394
Speaker 2: like just because fandom is often like very much attributed

699
00:29:20,394 --> 00:29:21,834
Speaker 2: to like young girls, they're crazy.

700
00:29:21,914 --> 00:29:24,154
Speaker 1: They And also when he first started his career, he

701
00:29:24,234 --> 00:29:26,274
Speaker 1: was like seen as one of the Internet boyfriends.

702
00:29:26,354 --> 00:29:29,994
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you would assume like young Tumbler, Yeah, lovely. Well,

703
00:29:30,074 --> 00:29:32,034
Speaker 2: yeah exactly. But it's when he was in his early

704
00:29:32,074 --> 00:29:35,154
Speaker 2: twenties that this started where Club Challoway was like obsessed

705
00:29:35,154 --> 00:29:36,834
Speaker 2: with him, and then when it came out when it

706
00:29:36,834 --> 00:29:41,074
Speaker 2: was a woman in her late fifties, people got quite upset. Yeah.

707
00:29:41,234 --> 00:29:44,154
Speaker 1: I think people got like one a bit creeped out.

708
00:29:44,914 --> 00:29:46,834
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's interesting. I've always had like kind of

709
00:29:46,834 --> 00:29:49,514
Speaker 2: conflicting thoughts because one part of me is like fandom

710
00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:51,714
Speaker 2: doesn't stop at any age, Like you can be just

711
00:29:51,714 --> 00:29:54,314
Speaker 2: because you're in your sixties nearly doesn't mean that you

712
00:29:54,354 --> 00:29:57,754
Speaker 2: can't be obsessed with like a franchise or a character

713
00:29:57,874 --> 00:30:00,714
Speaker 2: or a movie or something like your personality doesn't change.

714
00:30:00,834 --> 00:30:03,394
Speaker 2: But the weird thing about Club Challow that I've always

715
00:30:03,394 --> 00:30:06,474
Speaker 2: personally found is that she just had this like intense

716
00:30:06,594 --> 00:30:09,954
Speaker 2: like for Timothy SHALLOWI but almost like a very possessive thing.

717
00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:12,834
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the same time, it wasn't like I

718
00:30:12,874 --> 00:30:15,074
Speaker 1: feel like when I found out that she was in

719
00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:18,114
Speaker 1: her late fifties. It's like the thing of when you

720
00:30:18,154 --> 00:30:20,154
Speaker 1: find something out, you go back and read it through

721
00:30:20,274 --> 00:30:23,274
Speaker 1: different lens. And then what I originally was reading with

722
00:30:23,314 --> 00:30:25,594
Speaker 1: the Club Chala may post and I only really like

723
00:30:26,154 --> 00:30:28,194
Speaker 1: I read a few of their posts before I found

724
00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:31,314
Speaker 1: out about her, like who she was, but like the

725
00:30:31,354 --> 00:30:33,194
Speaker 1: post in my head because I was reading it through

726
00:30:33,234 --> 00:30:36,194
Speaker 1: like a young girl's head. I was like first posts

727
00:30:36,274 --> 00:30:39,234
Speaker 1: and like really like Fangirly, And when I found out

728
00:30:39,274 --> 00:30:42,034
Speaker 1: it was Simone, and then I read back on some

729
00:30:42,074 --> 00:30:44,474
Speaker 1: of the posts, I'm like, oh, it's actually not thirst

730
00:30:44,554 --> 00:30:46,914
Speaker 1: post and it's not like Fangirly. It's more just like

731
00:30:47,394 --> 00:30:51,834
Speaker 1: someone who's just like really really admires this young guy

732
00:30:52,394 --> 00:30:54,674
Speaker 1: and like his work and is like obsessed with his

733
00:30:54,834 --> 00:30:57,434
Speaker 1: life and like his decisions. But then it got like

734
00:30:57,474 --> 00:31:00,594
Speaker 1: a bit weird for me because then like when he

735
00:31:00,594 --> 00:31:01,834
Speaker 1: started dating Kylie Jenner.

736
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:03,794
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner thing, I mean, I did think it's a

737
00:31:03,794 --> 00:31:05,994
Speaker 2: bit creepy before that, but then Club Chalameye, I'm just

738
00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:09,474
Speaker 2: gonna use her. I feel weird in her government, it's

739
00:31:09,514 --> 00:31:12,354
Speaker 2: too it just feels too much person to personal. I'm

740
00:31:12,354 --> 00:31:14,514
Speaker 2: just gonna use Club chelm. It felt weird when Club

741
00:31:14,634 --> 00:31:17,674
Speaker 2: Charlamee was doing that, but when he started publicly dating

742
00:31:17,754 --> 00:31:21,034
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner and Club Charamee would like refuse to post

743
00:31:21,034 --> 00:31:23,754
Speaker 2: about them, and when they went red carpet official, she

744
00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:26,594
Speaker 2: put out a statement being like, it's okay if like

745
00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:28,874
Speaker 2: you need to step off the internet after this news

746
00:31:29,114 --> 00:31:31,994
Speaker 2: and protect yourself, like look after yourself, get you like it.

747
00:31:32,514 --> 00:31:34,674
Speaker 2: The language was bananas.

748
00:31:34,234 --> 00:31:37,594
Speaker 1: Yeah, as of like we're all like really struggling with yeah.

749
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,434
Speaker 2: And also interesting when you think that this is not

750
00:31:39,474 --> 00:31:41,434
Speaker 2: her first big fan account, it's the first one that's

751
00:31:41,434 --> 00:31:44,994
Speaker 2: gone mega viral. But previously to having Club chalomage, she

752
00:31:45,154 --> 00:31:48,274
Speaker 2: had a similar thing dedicated to Michael Fassbender. Do you

753
00:31:48,274 --> 00:31:51,354
Speaker 2: remember this? No? And then as soon as he started

754
00:31:51,434 --> 00:31:54,434
Speaker 2: dating and they got married to Alicia Vakanda, she like

755
00:31:54,634 --> 00:31:57,714
Speaker 2: dropped it. So that's the other thing, I know, right,

756
00:31:57,714 --> 00:31:58,594
Speaker 2: that's the other thing is.

757
00:31:58,594 --> 00:32:01,754
Speaker 1: Better than if Connor's story goes public with a partner.

758
00:32:01,514 --> 00:32:06,554
Speaker 2: Well, then story glory is going to be over. So

759
00:32:06,594 --> 00:32:09,634
Speaker 2: there's there's two different story throads here. I know Michael

760
00:32:09,674 --> 00:32:15,594
Speaker 2: fast like, thanks God, Like three completely different people, Like

761
00:32:15,754 --> 00:32:19,034
Speaker 2: how is Michael Fassbender to Timothy Challamey to condors story?

762
00:32:19,114 --> 00:32:20,794
Speaker 1: How was she like fixating on them?

763
00:32:20,994 --> 00:32:22,874
Speaker 2: They're all kind of weedy white men. But apart from that,

764
00:32:22,874 --> 00:32:26,074
Speaker 2: they're very different, very different career about catalogs and everything.

765
00:32:26,154 --> 00:32:28,914
Speaker 2: So funny to me, I know, So she dropped Michael Fassbender,

766
00:32:28,994 --> 00:32:30,954
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he and Alicia Vikanda were thrilled because

767
00:32:30,994 --> 00:32:33,594
Speaker 2: they're so private. They don't talk about their baby, they

768
00:32:33,554 --> 00:32:35,634
Speaker 2: don't talk about their marriage. They barely acknowledge they know

769
00:32:35,674 --> 00:32:37,874
Speaker 2: each other like they would have so they would have

770
00:32:37,914 --> 00:32:41,674
Speaker 2: hated that. Timothy has met club Challaby a few times

771
00:32:41,714 --> 00:32:43,794
Speaker 2: and he's always been really lovely to her. I think, well,

772
00:32:43,834 --> 00:32:45,354
Speaker 2: from what I've seen, I'm not sort of like on

773
00:32:45,394 --> 00:32:45,914
Speaker 2: red carpet.

774
00:32:46,154 --> 00:32:46,394
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:32:46,474 --> 00:32:48,914
Speaker 2: Like, because that's the other thing is that she spends

776
00:32:48,954 --> 00:32:51,834
Speaker 2: all her money traveling to where he is. So she's

777
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:53,994
Speaker 2: based in a but she'll go to events where he's at,

778
00:32:53,994 --> 00:32:56,034
Speaker 2: But I do understand that she has also traveled to

779
00:32:56,194 --> 00:32:58,354
Speaker 2: like fan events where he's at, and.

780
00:32:58,234 --> 00:33:01,194
Speaker 1: I actually wish I liked something as much as that.

781
00:33:01,194 --> 00:33:03,234
Speaker 2: That's what I always think. We go to we go

782
00:33:03,274 --> 00:33:05,114
Speaker 2: to premiers, and we see people still have been there

783
00:33:05,154 --> 00:33:08,874
Speaker 2: for them. Sometimes they say there for thirty hours just

784
00:33:08,914 --> 00:33:12,394
Speaker 2: to get a glimpse of this person walking past them. No, Emily,

785
00:33:12,394 --> 00:33:14,034
Speaker 2: you don't want to be like that, not to the fans.

786
00:33:14,074 --> 00:33:14,954
Speaker 2: I mean Club Shelby.

787
00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:17,514
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's too much. But like I wish I

788
00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:19,594
Speaker 1: had like that passion or thing.

789
00:33:19,754 --> 00:33:21,834
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I cared about literally any Yeah, but

790
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:26,274
Speaker 2: that seems a bit too all consuming. But I mean

791
00:33:25,994 --> 00:33:28,354
Speaker 2: I feel like Club Chaldmy is going through something, So

792
00:33:28,394 --> 00:33:29,834
Speaker 2: I don't want to paint her in a bad picture.

793
00:33:30,154 --> 00:33:32,114
Speaker 2: But there is one video I've seen of her that's

794
00:33:32,154 --> 00:33:35,714
Speaker 2: absolutely chilling. Have you seen when she went up to

795
00:33:35,794 --> 00:33:37,954
Speaker 2: him and she got into the award show? It was

796
00:33:37,954 --> 00:33:38,994
Speaker 2: this really tiny.

797
00:33:38,754 --> 00:33:39,674
Speaker 1: A wea scared?

798
00:33:39,954 --> 00:33:42,114
Speaker 2: No no, wait after this, we'll show you the clip

799
00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:44,354
Speaker 2: and it kind of reminds me of one horror movie

800
00:33:44,354 --> 00:33:47,194
Speaker 2: that's really scared me. It follows where this entity just

801
00:33:47,234 --> 00:33:50,994
Speaker 2: walks really slowly behind Yeah, Keith on your mind, will

802
00:33:50,994 --> 00:33:52,954
Speaker 2: I tell you this story? So I think it was

803
00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:55,034
Speaker 2: it was a tiny award show. Maybe it was the

804
00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:57,474
Speaker 2: Indie Spirit Awards, like a tiny one. Timothy was there

805
00:33:57,874 --> 00:34:00,154
Speaker 2: and she was like outside but like fans and things

806
00:34:00,154 --> 00:34:02,074
Speaker 2: were outside, so that was fine, and she somehow got

807
00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:04,314
Speaker 2: into the room. I'm not across the back story and

808
00:34:04,354 --> 00:34:06,794
Speaker 2: officers ever shared, but there's a video that went online

809
00:34:06,874 --> 00:34:08,794
Speaker 2: and you can see him get up from the table

810
00:34:08,834 --> 00:34:11,674
Speaker 2: and you see her just coming really slowly from behind

811
00:34:12,114 --> 00:34:13,594
Speaker 2: and gets up to him and they have like a

812
00:34:13,594 --> 00:34:15,794
Speaker 2: little moment where they say hello and stuff, and he

813
00:34:15,874 --> 00:34:17,993
Speaker 2: kind of gets rushed away. But it's like, how did

814
00:34:17,994 --> 00:34:21,234
Speaker 2: she get in the room? How did she get that close?

815
00:34:22,754 --> 00:34:24,994
Speaker 2: I just got scared watching it. I was like, I know,

816
00:34:25,034 --> 00:34:26,594
Speaker 2: I'm at the first time I watched it, I wanted

817
00:34:26,634 --> 00:34:28,594
Speaker 2: to be like, dimmy, behind you, she's there.

818
00:34:28,554 --> 00:34:30,994
Speaker 1: She's in the room, mama girl behind you.

819
00:34:31,394 --> 00:34:34,873
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so scary. Scary. So that's kind of where

820
00:34:34,874 --> 00:34:38,834
Speaker 2: we're at. So or is that just drive or is

821
00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:39,873
Speaker 2: that just being a go get off?

822
00:34:40,034 --> 00:34:40,234
Speaker 3: Yeah?

823
00:34:40,474 --> 00:34:41,994
Speaker 2: Is that just bringing back the girl boss?

824
00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:42,834
Speaker 1: Yeah?

825
00:34:43,034 --> 00:34:45,234
Speaker 2: No, Emily, not in this chess.

826
00:34:45,914 --> 00:34:48,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's driving for what she wants.

827
00:34:48,634 --> 00:34:50,393
Speaker 2: And she's gone and got it. She wanted to get

828
00:34:50,394 --> 00:34:52,194
Speaker 2: inside that room, Timothy, tell me, and she did it.

829
00:34:52,274 --> 00:34:53,954
Speaker 1: And now she's like, well, now you lost your Oscar,

830
00:34:54,034 --> 00:34:54,794
Speaker 1: so now moving on.

831
00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:57,033
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was hit pretty hard by the Kylie

832
00:34:57,074 --> 00:34:59,114
Speaker 2: Jenner stuff, but she managed to kind of soldier through.

833
00:34:59,114 --> 00:35:00,994
Speaker 2: But then the way that he has sort of come

834
00:35:01,034 --> 00:35:03,194
Speaker 2: across publicly in this Oscar season.

835
00:35:02,914 --> 00:35:05,234
Speaker 1: So this because she even admitted, like she said it

836
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:07,794
Speaker 1: was like a bad choice of words, like she didn't

837
00:35:07,794 --> 00:35:08,593
Speaker 1: agree with what he.

838
00:35:08,514 --> 00:35:11,114
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, which normally she would not say anything like that.

839
00:35:11,154 --> 00:35:12,913
Speaker 2: So I just kind of think it's like, is this

840
00:35:13,114 --> 00:35:15,714
Speaker 2: the thing that matters the most is losing when you're

841
00:35:15,754 --> 00:35:18,914
Speaker 2: at a star of like Timothy Chlamine, having this huge

842
00:35:18,994 --> 00:35:21,994
Speaker 2: kind of universe that orbits around you is your biggest

843
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:24,074
Speaker 2: supporter and fan and someone who's made a brand and

844
00:35:24,114 --> 00:35:27,674
Speaker 2: who monetizes like her substack and stuff about you publicly

845
00:35:27,674 --> 00:35:30,994
Speaker 2: stepping away from you because you unfulfill her and you

846
00:35:31,114 --> 00:35:32,794
Speaker 2: left her empty in you and she doesn't feel like

847
00:35:32,874 --> 00:35:34,914
Speaker 2: anything left. Is that the worst thing that can happened

848
00:35:34,914 --> 00:35:35,433
Speaker 2: to this port?

849
00:35:36,074 --> 00:35:38,634
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think it's exactly what you said,

850
00:35:38,634 --> 00:35:42,114
Speaker 1: Like it's circumstantial and like the timing of when it happens, Like,

851
00:35:42,154 --> 00:35:45,314
Speaker 1: I feel like if he won the Oscar and then

852
00:35:45,354 --> 00:35:47,154
Speaker 1: she was like, Okay, my job he has done, then

853
00:35:47,194 --> 00:35:48,514
Speaker 1: that he would be like that's fine.

854
00:35:48,674 --> 00:35:50,473
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different. It's like it's different, like.

855
00:35:50,514 --> 00:35:53,394
Speaker 1: He lost the Oscar. The world hates me, the ballet

856
00:35:53,394 --> 00:35:55,154
Speaker 1: people hate me, and people hate me.

857
00:35:55,274 --> 00:35:56,634
Speaker 2: Well, that's izing on the cake.

858
00:35:56,674 --> 00:35:58,794
Speaker 1: He is like, and there goes my number one fan

859
00:35:59,074 --> 00:35:59,754
Speaker 1: slash stalker.

860
00:35:59,794 --> 00:36:01,433
Speaker 2: I imagine you. I'm not saying she has storker, but

861
00:36:01,514 --> 00:36:04,434
Speaker 2: she gives storker vibes. That's been documented. Imagine your stalker

862
00:36:04,514 --> 00:36:08,474
Speaker 2: being like, hey, I just I'm just not into you anymore.

863
00:36:09,074 --> 00:36:11,834
Speaker 2: I'm just not that into you anymore. It's not you,

864
00:36:11,954 --> 00:36:16,154
Speaker 2: it's in me. I can't stalk you anymore. Is that

865
00:36:16,274 --> 00:36:17,914
Speaker 2: the worst thing that can happen to anyone?

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Speaker 1: Ah? Yeah, I feel Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Again, I think Timothy overall, he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: When did it happen? When did what happened when.

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Speaker 1: She left him?

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Speaker 2: Timmothy, Well, she hasn't posted for a while, and then

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Speaker 2: she's it's in the last few weeks that she's been

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Speaker 2: commenting these things and saying that she needs to step

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Speaker 2: away and like has like let some of her pages die,

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Speaker 2: has started the Conner story page. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: she's that I've seen that she's released a big statement

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Speaker 2: or anything like that. It's just like a web of

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Speaker 2: things that have happened and I don't know all the way.

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Speaker 1: She also refused to comment so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, the New York Times wrote this piece,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm not commenting to you. Even the

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Speaker 2: New York Times is like, let us know what's happening

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Speaker 2: with you. Like that's what a bigger kind of cultural

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Speaker 2: moment this is. It's interesting because I know last week

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Speaker 2: I did say that Timothy will be fine, he didn't

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Speaker 2: care about the backlash, and I still believe a lot

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Speaker 2: of that is true. But I think there's definitely an

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Speaker 2: angry frustration, not even angry, but just like a frustration

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Speaker 2: because apparently too. I've read some accounts from inside the

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Speaker 2: oscars room, and you know how like at the top

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Speaker 2: of the show, Conan O'Brien's joking about him and his

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Speaker 2: like ballet and opera, you know, war that he's at,

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Speaker 2: and in the video he's like laughing heaps and smiling

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Speaker 2: and stuff. That's how we laugh like that, And then

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Speaker 2: allegedly as soon as that moment finished, the oscars and

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Speaker 2: the camera's cut, he and Kylie Jenner got up and

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Speaker 2: left and went out and sat outside for over an hour,

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Speaker 2: and then they didn't come back in until the best

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Speaker 2: oscar race was about to be announced. So were they upset?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's an emotional guy.

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Speaker 2: He's an emotional guy. I think this is it's just

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Speaker 2: an interesting cultural turning point when you have someone who's

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Speaker 2: still one of the biggest actors in the world, who

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Speaker 2: will continue to be famous, but has taken such a

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Speaker 2: public hit and it's because of a fandom. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: also maybe this is a sa maybe it's a safe

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Speaker 2: for him, and I would just I would love someone

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Speaker 2: to have eyes on Conner story and just make sure

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Speaker 2: he's okay. Yeah, please, and just like security on events, Oh,

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Speaker 2: just to be safe. I'm not saying she's going to

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Speaker 2: do anything. I'm just saying if she can get past.

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Speaker 1: All the security at award show and if a kind

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Speaker 1: of story gets nominated for and ask your he has

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Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 2: He has to win, just to save the rest of her.

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