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Teas and c 18 00:01:11,509 --> 00:01:24,549 Speaker 2: supply Hello and welcome to Cancel, the podcast that looks 19 00:01:24,549 --> 00:01:28,109 Speaker 2: at silly celebrity crimes and assigns charges and sentences to 20 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:30,429 Speaker 2: them so that we can all move on with our lives. 21 00:01:30,629 --> 00:01:34,389 Speaker 2: I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens and Claire. 22 00:01:34,429 --> 00:01:38,349 Speaker 2: Today we are not talking about a single celebrity. No, no, no, 23 00:01:38,549 --> 00:01:40,909 Speaker 2: which I mean we always say like this is like 24 00:01:40,989 --> 00:01:43,989 Speaker 2: we cancel celebrities. I mean, we recently did the Olympics, 25 00:01:44,269 --> 00:01:46,429 Speaker 2: so we're not very good with our own criteria. But 26 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:49,869 Speaker 2: can we have boundaries we just don't operate within. No, 27 00:01:50,309 --> 00:01:53,709 Speaker 2: we're looking at the greatest love story never told, even 28 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:56,949 Speaker 2: though I'd argue that it's been told more than any 29 00:01:56,989 --> 00:02:00,429 Speaker 2: other love story. Correct, We're talking about a relationship that 30 00:02:00,509 --> 00:02:04,709 Speaker 2: began with jigglely or gigly and ended maybe with this 31 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:08,749 Speaker 2: is me. Now, we are talking about a union that 32 00:02:08,909 --> 00:02:12,629 Speaker 2: was first established twenty two years ago, before Jojo Siwa 33 00:02:12,989 --> 00:02:16,629 Speaker 2: was even born. We're talking about benefit. 34 00:02:24,789 --> 00:02:26,909 Speaker 3: Who used to seeing me around the house kind of 35 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:31,709 Speaker 3: schleppy and kind of you know, and sweatpants and my strange. 36 00:02:31,349 --> 00:02:35,469 Speaker 2: Socks and thinking. I'm not saying I'm not pretty. 37 00:02:35,469 --> 00:02:37,589 Speaker 3: I'm saying you used to seeing me kind of like 38 00:02:37,669 --> 00:02:39,069 Speaker 3: the little old lady at home. 39 00:02:39,229 --> 00:02:41,549 Speaker 2: You're gorgeous, and we tell you something. 40 00:02:41,669 --> 00:02:44,269 Speaker 1: Every relationship there's a bull and a cow. 41 00:02:44,789 --> 00:02:46,869 Speaker 2: I'm the ball, you're the cow. 42 00:02:47,429 --> 00:02:47,749 Speaker 1: Got that? 43 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:52,949 Speaker 2: I got a oh gosh what. Honestly, it cuts through 44 00:02:52,989 --> 00:02:56,309 Speaker 2: so many generations. It does because they have always and 45 00:02:56,349 --> 00:02:59,469 Speaker 2: they have never oh you know, yeah, for so long 46 00:02:59,549 --> 00:03:02,749 Speaker 2: they weren't yes, but once they were, and then they 47 00:03:02,789 --> 00:03:06,229 Speaker 2: were again again, and then maybe they weren't. And they're 48 00:03:06,269 --> 00:03:08,789 Speaker 2: also just such an interesting example of like, will you 49 00:03:08,909 --> 00:03:14,269 Speaker 2: get back with the should you? Should you? Jen? Jen, 50 00:03:15,149 --> 00:03:17,909 Speaker 2: You've had three marriages in between. She has been married 51 00:03:17,909 --> 00:03:19,909 Speaker 2: four times. She made a movie about it, in a documentary. 52 00:03:20,189 --> 00:03:23,749 Speaker 2: So this is about Betafer if you don't know, that's 53 00:03:23,789 --> 00:03:27,349 Speaker 2: about one Jennifer Lopez aka Jenny from the Block AKA. 54 00:03:27,429 --> 00:03:29,549 Speaker 2: We have done an episode on her. You'll find that 55 00:03:29,629 --> 00:03:32,989 Speaker 2: in the back catalog or in the show notes. Jennifer Lopez. 56 00:03:33,349 --> 00:03:37,269 Speaker 2: If you go hide, you can get then We've got 57 00:03:37,309 --> 00:03:41,989 Speaker 2: Ben Affleck sad Ben Dragon tattoo, Ben ugly tattoo. 58 00:03:42,029 --> 00:03:42,269 Speaker 1: Ben. 59 00:03:42,749 --> 00:03:46,389 Speaker 2: Best part of my idea is for about ten seconds 60 00:03:46,389 --> 00:03:47,869 Speaker 2: from when I pull up to the curb when I 61 00:03:47,909 --> 00:03:50,189 Speaker 2: get to your door, because I think maybe i'll get 62 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:51,589 Speaker 2: up there and i'll knock on the door and you 63 00:03:51,629 --> 00:03:53,789 Speaker 2: won't be there. We have also done an episode on 64 00:03:53,869 --> 00:03:57,149 Speaker 2: Ben Affleck a lot of fun. But my structure for 65 00:03:57,269 --> 00:04:02,509 Speaker 2: today is as follows, Benefer, the first time, Benefer, the 66 00:04:02,589 --> 00:04:08,749 Speaker 2: second time, the wedding, this is Me now, divorce rumors. 67 00:04:09,069 --> 00:04:12,709 Speaker 2: If you're wondering about the pause, it's because of the ellipses, 68 00:04:13,069 --> 00:04:15,669 Speaker 2: which I think indicates because you know, her first album 69 00:04:15,749 --> 00:04:19,589 Speaker 2: was this is Me Then? No, I didn't know that. Yes, 70 00:04:19,589 --> 00:04:21,069 Speaker 2: it makes a lot more sense. That's why she now 71 00:04:21,149 --> 00:04:28,069 Speaker 2: has this is Me Now, Yes Me now? So benefit 72 00:04:28,789 --> 00:04:33,909 Speaker 2: the first time. Jen and Ben famously met on the 73 00:04:33,989 --> 00:04:38,269 Speaker 2: set of Giggly Giggly. I think it's jilly. I think 74 00:04:38,309 --> 00:04:41,949 Speaker 2: it's like I think it is too a romantic comedy 75 00:04:41,989 --> 00:04:44,549 Speaker 2: crime movie that a wise person once said was too 76 00:04:44,549 --> 00:04:47,309 Speaker 2: many genres. That was us, I said that. Do you 77 00:04:47,789 --> 00:04:51,309 Speaker 2: just for anybody who hasn't recently listened to the Jen 78 00:04:51,509 --> 00:04:53,749 Speaker 2: and or Ben episodes, you want to just give just 79 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:56,669 Speaker 2: a short summary of what the film is about. Yeah, 80 00:04:56,829 --> 00:05:01,709 Speaker 2: so Ricky is Jlo is lesbian but not really, that's trick. 81 00:05:01,989 --> 00:05:04,229 Speaker 2: And then they have to cut off a thumb, but 82 00:05:04,349 --> 00:05:06,429 Speaker 2: the wrong thumb, and then they get in trouble, so 83 00:05:06,429 --> 00:05:09,309 Speaker 2: they're gonna get killed, but then they don't because they 84 00:05:09,509 --> 00:05:11,309 Speaker 2: talk their way out of it, and then they fall 85 00:05:11,349 --> 00:05:14,029 Speaker 2: in love even though Ricky is a lesbian. But Ricky's 86 00:05:14,029 --> 00:05:17,949 Speaker 2: not a lesbian anymore because she met Giggly. Giggly is 87 00:05:17,949 --> 00:05:20,069 Speaker 2: that his name Affleck? I don't know. I haven't seen 88 00:05:20,069 --> 00:05:23,229 Speaker 2: the film. I simply watched the trailer and I've never 89 00:05:23,269 --> 00:05:29,549 Speaker 2: seen anything more confusing and shocking in my life. 90 00:05:30,109 --> 00:05:31,309 Speaker 3: It means you're not my type. 91 00:05:31,549 --> 00:05:35,229 Speaker 2: Good night, And it's just a reminder that I think 92 00:05:35,349 --> 00:05:38,229 Speaker 2: when it comes to sexuality, like she just hadn't found 93 00:05:38,229 --> 00:05:41,069 Speaker 2: the right dick yet. Right, Yeah, that's exactly it. It's 94 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:43,349 Speaker 2: the moral of the story fucked up? How could you 95 00:05:43,429 --> 00:05:46,669 Speaker 2: make that? Well? Speaking of how could you make that? 96 00:05:47,069 --> 00:05:50,469 Speaker 2: Martin Breast, It is widely considered to be one of 97 00:05:50,509 --> 00:05:53,709 Speaker 2: the worst movies of all time, and the director Breast, 98 00:05:54,229 --> 00:05:58,109 Speaker 2: that's his name, Come on now, at the time was 99 00:05:58,149 --> 00:06:01,589 Speaker 2: well known and well regarded. He never directed a film again. 100 00:06:01,989 --> 00:06:05,509 Speaker 2: He literally made a statement that once Giggly happened, he 101 00:06:05,589 --> 00:06:07,989 Speaker 2: knew he'd never be invited back to make more films. 102 00:06:08,349 --> 00:06:10,429 Speaker 2: He was like, I had a good run, but now 103 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:14,189 Speaker 2: it's time for me to disappear. Do you think famous 104 00:06:14,229 --> 00:06:17,629 Speaker 2: people like the Jen and Ben's feel bad? I think 105 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:22,549 Speaker 2: they leave in their wake a trail of broken director 106 00:06:22,629 --> 00:06:26,629 Speaker 2: creatations because, for reasons that they don't know, they agreed 107 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:29,669 Speaker 2: to be on a project that they shouldn't have. And 108 00:06:29,789 --> 00:06:34,269 Speaker 2: Jen recovers, Ben recovers Martin breast He's like, I'm never 109 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:38,109 Speaker 2: going to Remembin. Meanwhile, Jen and Ben are going jiggly. 110 00:06:38,229 --> 00:06:40,269 Speaker 2: Is the beginning of the greatest love story never told? 111 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:45,749 Speaker 2: And Martin's like, from my perspective, that was Korea ending. 112 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:49,989 Speaker 2: We told it. We told a love story on screen. 113 00:06:50,189 --> 00:06:53,989 Speaker 2: Was it a great one? Absolutely? It was homophobic. It 114 00:06:54,069 --> 00:06:57,189 Speaker 2: went to cinemas in the US, and then after three 115 00:06:57,229 --> 00:06:59,789 Speaker 2: weeks they just straight up stopped showing it because it 116 00:06:59,789 --> 00:07:02,509 Speaker 2: was upsetting people. I think they thought it was quite good. 117 00:07:02,549 --> 00:07:05,229 Speaker 2: To this day, I think they're like, what's the big problem. 118 00:07:05,269 --> 00:07:09,189 Speaker 2: It's like, go ask Martin. He's been redundant for twenty 119 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:12,669 Speaker 2: two years. Go watch it, watch it, Go watch it 120 00:07:12,709 --> 00:07:14,709 Speaker 2: with some friends who are going to be honest with you. 121 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:17,749 Speaker 2: After the filming wrapped in March two thousand and two, 122 00:07:18,069 --> 00:07:21,229 Speaker 2: Ben reportedly spent eighteen thousand dollars on a set of 123 00:07:21,269 --> 00:07:25,229 Speaker 2: advertisements to express how much he loved working with Jen. 124 00:07:25,469 --> 00:07:29,709 Speaker 2: Do you remember this yes. At the time she was 125 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:33,869 Speaker 2: married to her husband Chris Judd, no relation to Chris Judd, 126 00:07:33,869 --> 00:07:37,109 Speaker 2: Bet Judd's husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as far as we know. Yeah, 127 00:07:37,149 --> 00:07:39,909 Speaker 2: she's got a thing of marrying people who have names 128 00:07:39,989 --> 00:07:42,909 Speaker 2: that other people have. For example, Mark Antony. I think 129 00:07:42,909 --> 00:07:45,829 Speaker 2: his name's Mark Anthony. Well, I don't know. Is he 130 00:07:45,909 --> 00:07:49,509 Speaker 2: the historical figure? No, but we'll get to here. Okay. 131 00:07:50,389 --> 00:07:52,429 Speaker 2: The ad that he took out in the paper, it read, 132 00:07:52,429 --> 00:07:58,589 Speaker 2: in part, you have shown kindness, dedication, diligence, humility, graciousness 133 00:07:58,589 --> 00:08:01,829 Speaker 2: of spirit, beauty and courage, great empathy, astonishing talent, real poise, 134 00:08:01,869 --> 00:08:04,589 Speaker 2: and true grace. It has been nothing but an honor 135 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:06,549 Speaker 2: and a pleasure to work with you. I only wish 136 00:08:06,589 --> 00:08:08,189 Speaker 2: I were lucky enough to be in all your movies 137 00:08:08,229 --> 00:08:11,189 Speaker 2: with love and respecting gratitude, Ben Flick. And where did 138 00:08:11,229 --> 00:08:13,949 Speaker 2: you put that the paper? Okay? He could have just 139 00:08:13,989 --> 00:08:16,549 Speaker 2: told her that. You know how, sometimes you work with 140 00:08:16,589 --> 00:08:19,589 Speaker 2: someone and then you do a farewell card and you 141 00:08:19,629 --> 00:08:22,469 Speaker 2: just write a little message. Yeah, well that's what Yeah, yeah, 142 00:08:22,549 --> 00:08:25,029 Speaker 2: we just wanted to take out a paper in the 143 00:08:25,069 --> 00:08:28,629 Speaker 2: pap put it in the paper. This is the shit 144 00:08:28,989 --> 00:08:32,949 Speaker 2: I've been begging for on my birthday card from my 145 00:08:33,109 --> 00:08:36,389 Speaker 2: partner for seven or eight years. I would like to 146 00:08:36,429 --> 00:08:40,269 Speaker 2: be described as having beauty in courage. Claire, what does 147 00:08:40,309 --> 00:08:45,989 Speaker 2: beauty and courage mean? Okay, your courage is beautiful. Your 148 00:08:46,029 --> 00:08:50,149 Speaker 2: courage to be in Jigli, your courage to be Ricky 149 00:08:50,189 --> 00:08:54,829 Speaker 2: a turned lesbian. Okay, okay, no, no, you courageously make terrible decisions, 150 00:08:54,829 --> 00:08:57,789 Speaker 2: but you're still beautiful while doing it. Love that just 151 00:08:57,909 --> 00:09:01,509 Speaker 2: on Ben and his love letters, So I guess that's 152 00:09:01,509 --> 00:09:03,629 Speaker 2: when it started, but we'll touch on it later. That 153 00:09:03,669 --> 00:09:06,909 Speaker 2: he continued to write her love letters, and then on 154 00:09:06,989 --> 00:09:10,029 Speaker 2: the set of This Is Me Now, he got any 155 00:09:10,269 --> 00:09:15,709 Speaker 2: name and it was Penn Affleck. Honestly, they're just stand ups, 156 00:09:15,709 --> 00:09:21,629 Speaker 2: aren't made comedians. They both maintained that there was no 157 00:09:21,749 --> 00:09:24,829 Speaker 2: crossover with Jen's marriage, but it did end in mid 158 00:09:25,029 --> 00:09:27,589 Speaker 2: two thousand and two, and four seconds later, she was 159 00:09:27,589 --> 00:09:31,349 Speaker 2: pictured with Ben, who was taken by her graciousness of spirit. 160 00:09:32,309 --> 00:09:39,709 Speaker 2: Jen then released Jenny from the block. Ben appears in 161 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:42,909 Speaker 2: the film clip kissing her on the bottom. They're both 162 00:09:43,029 --> 00:09:46,869 Speaker 2: wearing sunglasses, pretending to hide from the paparazzi. But it's like, 163 00:09:47,549 --> 00:09:50,669 Speaker 2: this is your music video, Yes you may and you're 164 00:09:50,749 --> 00:09:53,589 Speaker 2: running and you're being like, don't follow us, don't follow us. 165 00:09:53,669 --> 00:09:56,789 Speaker 2: Here I am, I'm Jen, And it reminded me of 166 00:09:56,829 --> 00:09:58,469 Speaker 2: I was in the airport recently and I saw someone 167 00:09:58,469 --> 00:10:02,869 Speaker 2: who was in all black, sunglasses on, cap, all of 168 00:10:02,869 --> 00:10:05,109 Speaker 2: these things, and I want, well, you're clearly fucking famous. 169 00:10:05,629 --> 00:10:08,269 Speaker 2: You're sign posting to me the famous. So I stared 170 00:10:08,269 --> 00:10:11,309 Speaker 2: at her NonStop for forty five minutes. Did discover that 171 00:10:11,389 --> 00:10:13,909 Speaker 2: she was a little bit famous. But I thought I 172 00:10:13,909 --> 00:10:16,109 Speaker 2: wouldn't have looked twice if you didn't have your baseball 173 00:10:16,109 --> 00:10:19,189 Speaker 2: cap on. Yeah, if you there's sunglasses on, and like 174 00:10:19,709 --> 00:10:22,989 Speaker 2: the all black and ensemble, just dress like a homeless 175 00:10:23,029 --> 00:10:26,269 Speaker 2: person like everyone else. Nobody else is wearing crisp, clean 176 00:10:26,749 --> 00:10:30,229 Speaker 2: black attire. After three months of dating, Ben was so 177 00:10:30,469 --> 00:10:34,109 Speaker 2: taken by Jen's true grace that he proposed with a 178 00:10:34,149 --> 00:10:37,309 Speaker 2: one point two million dollar diamond drink. That's so good. 179 00:10:37,429 --> 00:10:41,349 Speaker 2: All I'll say is you'd want to be sure. Later 180 00:10:41,429 --> 00:10:45,749 Speaker 2: that month, they started filming another movie together called Jersey Girl, 181 00:10:46,109 --> 00:10:50,229 Speaker 2: and Jen released her album This Is Me then, and 182 00:10:50,309 --> 00:10:52,949 Speaker 2: she said that Ben is her life and soul inspiration 183 00:10:53,029 --> 00:10:56,509 Speaker 2: for every lyric. Wow, there's a song a really cryptic 184 00:10:56,549 --> 00:10:58,669 Speaker 2: one I had to go through with a fine tooth comb. 185 00:10:58,789 --> 00:11:03,709 Speaker 2: It's called Dear Ben. Oh, I just cance trau myself. 186 00:11:04,349 --> 00:11:05,669 Speaker 3: I can't be with no. 187 00:11:06,589 --> 00:11:08,389 Speaker 2: And I would like you to do a dramatic reading 188 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:10,109 Speaker 2: of some of the lyrics that I have printed out 189 00:11:10,229 --> 00:11:14,029 Speaker 2: right here from lyrics dot com. I would love nothing more. Okay, 190 00:11:14,149 --> 00:11:16,789 Speaker 2: this is from Gen Tibet. Does Gen write her own songs? 191 00:11:16,829 --> 00:11:18,549 Speaker 2: That's the thing I don't think so. I think that 192 00:11:18,589 --> 00:11:21,589 Speaker 2: what she does is talk about Ben. And then someone 193 00:11:21,629 --> 00:11:24,429 Speaker 2: writes the song about Ben okay, and they're like, maybe 194 00:11:24,429 --> 00:11:27,229 Speaker 2: we could call it like dear Lover, and she's like, no, 195 00:11:27,309 --> 00:11:31,949 Speaker 2: his name's Ben. I love you. You're perfect, a manifestation 196 00:11:32,189 --> 00:11:35,749 Speaker 2: of my dreams. You make my body feel about a 197 00:11:35,789 --> 00:11:39,149 Speaker 2: million different things. I think God made you for me, 198 00:11:39,669 --> 00:11:45,629 Speaker 2: a mix of passionate fidelities. Not right, we've all written 199 00:11:45,749 --> 00:11:48,429 Speaker 2: and like that. What does she have to rhyme when 200 00:11:48,469 --> 00:11:52,029 Speaker 2: she did fidelities to have to rhyme with something me me? So, 201 00:11:52,149 --> 00:11:55,189 Speaker 2: for example, I have a heart and you are the 202 00:11:55,269 --> 00:12:00,229 Speaker 2: key of You might have been better than fidelities. Yeah, baby, 203 00:12:00,389 --> 00:12:03,069 Speaker 2: you're so complete. I write this song to let you 204 00:12:03,109 --> 00:12:05,909 Speaker 2: know that you will always be to me, my last, 205 00:12:05,989 --> 00:12:10,909 Speaker 2: my love, my man, my child, a friend, child's interesting, 206 00:12:11,229 --> 00:12:15,149 Speaker 2: my king. Now I don't like when people call their 207 00:12:15,149 --> 00:12:20,109 Speaker 2: partner their king or their queen or their child. The 208 00:12:20,189 --> 00:12:22,149 Speaker 2: child thing was really interesting. It throws me. I think 209 00:12:22,229 --> 00:12:25,069 Speaker 2: she was missing. There was a beat and she had 210 00:12:25,069 --> 00:12:27,749 Speaker 2: no word and she went, ah child, Yeah, and the 211 00:12:27,749 --> 00:12:29,909 Speaker 2: person writing it went, that's odd, Jen, and she said 212 00:12:30,069 --> 00:12:35,269 Speaker 2: it's perfect for my song. Did Ben Claire, I don't 213 00:12:35,309 --> 00:12:37,469 Speaker 2: know what to tell you. She loves Ben. In July 214 00:12:37,549 --> 00:12:39,789 Speaker 2: two thousand and three, that's about a year since they 215 00:12:39,789 --> 00:12:44,629 Speaker 2: started dating, they did their first NBC primetime interview. It's 216 00:12:44,669 --> 00:12:47,509 Speaker 2: forty one minutes of them talking about their relationship. There's 217 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:50,589 Speaker 2: at least two minutes dedicated to Ben saying that he 218 00:12:50,709 --> 00:12:52,269 Speaker 2: does not like doing the dishes. 219 00:12:52,429 --> 00:12:53,909 Speaker 3: It's not my favorite thing in the world to do. 220 00:12:54,229 --> 00:12:58,029 Speaker 1: So now I'm happy I don't have to do them. 221 00:12:59,549 --> 00:13:02,869 Speaker 2: I do do them. Ch Ah lovely riveting stuff. J 222 00:13:02,989 --> 00:13:06,789 Speaker 2: Loo is making chicken, just frying it, okay in case 223 00:13:06,789 --> 00:13:08,709 Speaker 2: you wondering. And he comes in and says, is that 224 00:13:08,909 --> 00:13:11,629 Speaker 2: fish or is it chicken? And then she says it's chicken. 225 00:13:11,669 --> 00:13:14,029 Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, we're always frying stuff. Chicken 226 00:13:14,229 --> 00:13:18,069 Speaker 2: beef pork, and I'm like, a fuck me, why am 227 00:13:18,069 --> 00:13:21,829 Speaker 2: I watching this? It's not interesting. It's I think they 228 00:13:21,949 --> 00:13:25,469 Speaker 2: think that because they're them, anything they do is interesting. Yeah, 229 00:13:25,469 --> 00:13:28,709 Speaker 2: and because everyone follows them around. But it's like, I 230 00:13:28,989 --> 00:13:31,989 Speaker 2: don't need to be in on this joke where Ben's like, 231 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:33,869 Speaker 2: I don't mind doing the dishes, and she's like, you've 232 00:13:33,869 --> 00:13:35,749 Speaker 2: never done the dishes, and it's like, in fairness, you've 233 00:13:35,749 --> 00:13:38,869 Speaker 2: been together for two weeks. Also, I don't think either 234 00:13:38,869 --> 00:13:41,349 Speaker 2: of you do the dishes, which is fine. I was 235 00:13:41,389 --> 00:13:45,829 Speaker 2: surprised she was frying, you have stuff. I think that 236 00:13:45,909 --> 00:13:48,429 Speaker 2: Ben and Jen when they're alone, they just sit together 237 00:13:48,509 --> 00:13:50,989 Speaker 2: and intensely look into each other's eyes and tell each 238 00:13:50,989 --> 00:13:54,309 Speaker 2: other how hot they are, which is actually fair and 239 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:57,149 Speaker 2: valid and true. Yeah, yeah, is Ben is just like 240 00:13:57,349 --> 00:14:00,469 Speaker 2: your face and she's like, mmm, I think you're alone 241 00:14:00,589 --> 00:14:03,309 Speaker 2: intensely and kind of gyrate, and then she does this thing. 242 00:14:03,349 --> 00:14:04,989 Speaker 2: She has a dance move where she kind of caresses 243 00:14:05,029 --> 00:14:07,389 Speaker 2: her own neck. She does a lot of that. But 244 00:14:07,469 --> 00:14:10,109 Speaker 2: a few weeks later a story was published that claims 245 00:14:10,389 --> 00:14:13,189 Speaker 2: that on the night the Dateline interview aired, afflic had 246 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:16,109 Speaker 2: visited a strip club and had sex with not one 247 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:22,109 Speaker 2: but two women. Can you remember what his excuse was? Okay, 248 00:14:22,149 --> 00:14:24,349 Speaker 2: I'm making this up and I'm definitely wrong. He wanted 249 00:14:24,349 --> 00:14:27,949 Speaker 2: a glass. He wanted a glass of water, so he 250 00:14:28,029 --> 00:14:31,549 Speaker 2: ended up in a strip club. Yeah, and some conversation. 251 00:14:31,949 --> 00:14:34,709 Speaker 2: I hate when I'm thirsty and I'm driving and I 252 00:14:34,749 --> 00:14:36,229 Speaker 2: go I just want to drink of water. And then 253 00:14:36,269 --> 00:14:37,989 Speaker 2: I go to a strip club and I fall into 254 00:14:37,989 --> 00:14:41,269 Speaker 2: a vachina, two of them. A woman came out and 255 00:14:41,309 --> 00:14:43,349 Speaker 2: said she slept with Affleck that night, and then his 256 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:46,389 Speaker 2: rapes came out and said, no, no, no, there's been 257 00:14:46,429 --> 00:14:49,749 Speaker 2: some confusion because all afflic did at the strip club 258 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:53,509 Speaker 2: that night was have some H two O, which is 259 00:14:53,709 --> 00:14:57,869 Speaker 2: good for you. Yeah, and some lovely conversations. The man 260 00:14:58,109 --> 00:15:03,629 Speaker 2: was parked. Oh we honestly denying a man a glass 261 00:15:04,349 --> 00:15:09,789 Speaker 2: water in a strip club club, some lovely entertainment around, 262 00:15:10,469 --> 00:15:15,109 Speaker 2: but some music, some dancing. He likes dancing. He was thinking, 263 00:15:15,149 --> 00:15:18,509 Speaker 2: you know who'd like this, Jen, she loves some dancing. 264 00:15:18,789 --> 00:15:21,549 Speaker 2: He wanted someone to talk to. Who is he meant 265 00:15:21,589 --> 00:15:24,709 Speaker 2: to talk to j Lo? No, she wasn't there. Matt 266 00:15:24,789 --> 00:15:29,029 Speaker 2: Damien had lied. No, his mom. No, he needed to 267 00:15:29,109 --> 00:15:34,629 Speaker 2: talk to his friends. The stupers. Okay, they ended up 268 00:15:34,709 --> 00:15:38,469 Speaker 2: postponing their wedding because of media attention and eventually broke 269 00:15:38,549 --> 00:15:41,669 Speaker 2: up because of media attention or because he's love with 270 00:15:41,669 --> 00:15:44,229 Speaker 2: you other people You'll never know, We don't know. They 271 00:15:44,309 --> 00:15:47,429 Speaker 2: always spoke of each other very highly. Ben commended Jalo 272 00:15:47,549 --> 00:15:49,989 Speaker 2: on her great talent, and Jalo always said they broke 273 00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:52,189 Speaker 2: up because of all the media attention. That was their story. 274 00:15:52,229 --> 00:15:54,269 Speaker 2: They stuck to her. No one is a bigger fan 275 00:15:54,309 --> 00:15:57,589 Speaker 2: of Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. I think he's simply 276 00:15:57,629 --> 00:16:01,509 Speaker 2: a fan. I think he might just be a fan. Actually, 277 00:16:01,549 --> 00:16:06,229 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a boyfriend. I don't think he's 278 00:16:06,229 --> 00:16:18,749 Speaker 2: a husband. He's She's fine. We don't are fans, no benefit. 279 00:16:18,989 --> 00:16:22,349 Speaker 2: The second time, Affleck would go on to marry Jennifer Ganner, 280 00:16:22,589 --> 00:16:26,189 Speaker 2: who was the most different woman to Jennifer Lopez that 281 00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:28,829 Speaker 2: I personally know, but she has the same Firth name 282 00:16:29,149 --> 00:16:31,749 Speaker 2: and they have three kids, and Jlo would go on 283 00:16:31,789 --> 00:16:36,949 Speaker 2: to marry Mark Anthony and have twins. Interestingly, Jlo collaborated 284 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:39,949 Speaker 2: on music and performed with Mark, as well as co 285 00:16:40,149 --> 00:16:43,549 Speaker 2: starring in a movie with him called El Cantante, which 286 00:16:43,629 --> 00:16:46,869 Speaker 2: was a biopic in two thousand and six, Madison Square Garden. 287 00:16:46,989 --> 00:16:50,469 Speaker 2: He filled that police up like that like he had 288 00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:56,389 Speaker 2: it all. He had everything, and you have me. Can 289 00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:58,189 Speaker 2: you move your ass so that I can see her? 290 00:16:58,229 --> 00:16:58,429 Speaker 1: Ask? 291 00:16:58,469 --> 00:17:01,949 Speaker 2: Please this one? You could touch this one? You can? 292 00:17:02,549 --> 00:17:06,069 Speaker 2: How was that success wise him? Why do you can't 293 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:10,469 Speaker 2: bringing it up because it was ward winning or because 294 00:17:10,469 --> 00:17:13,109 Speaker 2: there's a bit of fun to be bad? The Evening 295 00:17:13,269 --> 00:17:16,589 Speaker 2: Standard wrote in a review the film and I quote, 296 00:17:16,989 --> 00:17:19,909 Speaker 2: did not go down well at the box office, and 297 00:17:19,949 --> 00:17:23,989 Speaker 2: neither Lopez nor Anthony knew anything about salsa, which is 298 00:17:23,989 --> 00:17:28,109 Speaker 2: what the film was about. It has a twenty five 299 00:17:28,149 --> 00:17:30,589 Speaker 2: percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes. You know who I think 300 00:17:30,629 --> 00:17:35,469 Speaker 2: went and saw it, Ben, I think first opportunity, Ben, 301 00:17:35,789 --> 00:17:39,389 Speaker 2: front seat, popcorn and a slurpy and he stood up 302 00:17:39,389 --> 00:17:43,029 Speaker 2: at the end. He did what a performance. So while 303 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:46,909 Speaker 2: that had twenty five percent, Jiggly Giggly really has six 304 00:17:46,949 --> 00:17:49,909 Speaker 2: percent on Rotten Tomatoes, So actually twenty five percent isn't 305 00:17:49,949 --> 00:17:53,869 Speaker 2: bad anyway. Anthony and Lopez officially divorced in twenty fourteen, 306 00:17:54,189 --> 00:17:58,069 Speaker 2: while Affleck and Ghana officially divorced in twenty eighteen. So 307 00:17:58,149 --> 00:17:59,709 Speaker 2: now what we've got is a single Ben and a 308 00:17:59,709 --> 00:18:05,069 Speaker 2: single gen not really because Jen was with the young guy. 309 00:18:05,389 --> 00:18:08,829 Speaker 2: The younger like a backup, backup down, and then Ben 310 00:18:08,909 --> 00:18:12,309 Speaker 2: was on Raia trying to like slide into dms and 311 00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:16,709 Speaker 2: people were sharing sad messages. You know, I leave the 312 00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:20,709 Speaker 2: man alone to be on his apps. 313 00:18:20,829 --> 00:18:21,989 Speaker 1: Why did you unmatch me? 314 00:18:22,629 --> 00:18:24,789 Speaker 2: It's me let him be on his apps. And he 315 00:18:24,909 --> 00:18:27,389 Speaker 2: was in a moment where we've all been in this moment, 316 00:18:27,429 --> 00:18:29,989 Speaker 2: but we've also all seen men in this moment where 317 00:18:30,029 --> 00:18:35,709 Speaker 2: they start texting everyone because he's life. Yes, I have 318 00:18:35,749 --> 00:18:39,629 Speaker 2: my friends the strippers, but I need my other friends, 319 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:43,949 Speaker 2: such as my exes. So he did start reaching out. 320 00:18:44,189 --> 00:18:46,829 Speaker 2: He probably reached out to Jennifer Ghannah and she said, 321 00:18:46,909 --> 00:18:51,989 Speaker 2: I'm the mother of his children where divorced j Lo. 322 00:18:52,709 --> 00:18:57,909 Speaker 2: Great performance in Elkompunbe. Actually just to be fan of 323 00:18:57,949 --> 00:19:01,909 Speaker 2: everything you've been doing lately. In May twenty twenty one, 324 00:19:02,149 --> 00:19:05,869 Speaker 2: nearly twenty years since they first got together, they were photographed. 325 00:19:06,189 --> 00:19:09,149 Speaker 2: They were then photographed at Lopez's rental home in Miami, 326 00:19:09,629 --> 00:19:12,469 Speaker 2: and Ben was wearing a watch that Jalo had given 327 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:15,109 Speaker 2: him back in two thousand and two. If I were 328 00:19:15,189 --> 00:19:18,229 Speaker 2: Jennifer Ghana, I'd be pissed. I'd be like, why didn't 329 00:19:18,269 --> 00:19:20,589 Speaker 2: we throw that out? Where have you been keep them 330 00:19:20,589 --> 00:19:23,669 Speaker 2: a watch mate? Mm hmm, it ain't right you kept 331 00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:26,429 Speaker 2: that in your box. And then a few things happened. 332 00:19:27,389 --> 00:19:29,469 Speaker 2: The first is that a bunch of pictures appeared of 333 00:19:29,509 --> 00:19:33,989 Speaker 2: them kissing and not not dry humping. All I'll say 334 00:19:34,229 --> 00:19:36,669 Speaker 2: is that they are at No Boo. I know nothing 335 00:19:36,669 --> 00:19:41,829 Speaker 2: about anything, but I know No Boo, fancy restaurant where 336 00:19:41,869 --> 00:19:44,629 Speaker 2: you go to get photo where you're going to get photographed, 337 00:19:45,069 --> 00:19:47,469 Speaker 2: And I'm sure a state costs like four hundred dollars. 338 00:19:47,549 --> 00:19:49,589 Speaker 2: And if I were trying to be discreet about my 339 00:19:49,709 --> 00:19:53,869 Speaker 2: new relationship, I wouldn't be humping at Noboo. But that's fine. 340 00:19:53,989 --> 00:19:57,069 Speaker 2: They were ready for people to know. They later confirmed 341 00:19:57,069 --> 00:20:00,589 Speaker 2: the relationship and started appearing on red carpets together. On 342 00:20:00,669 --> 00:20:05,389 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day, Affleck directed and gifted Lopez a remix of 343 00:20:05,389 --> 00:20:09,109 Speaker 2: her song on My Way. And if I were their therapist, 344 00:20:09,549 --> 00:20:13,389 Speaker 2: which I'm not, I would say less working together. I 345 00:20:13,429 --> 00:20:16,509 Speaker 2: would say to j Loo, Actually, you don't need to 346 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:18,709 Speaker 2: star in a film with your husband. It's a specific 347 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:21,909 Speaker 2: issue if most of us don't need to work. No, 348 00:20:22,509 --> 00:20:27,029 Speaker 2: but you can love someone and not make a film. Yeah, 349 00:20:27,389 --> 00:20:30,909 Speaker 2: or write a song, collaborate together on a project. You 350 00:20:30,949 --> 00:20:33,109 Speaker 2: can do those separately, Claire, I would like to show 351 00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:38,349 Speaker 2: you this, so just for context, Ben gives this to 352 00:20:40,109 --> 00:20:43,669 Speaker 2: Jen on Valentine's Day and then Jen shares it. No newsletter, 353 00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,669 Speaker 2: you know that newsletter below down or whatever? Yeah, I 354 00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:48,309 Speaker 2: think I subscribe, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like, did 355 00:20:48,349 --> 00:20:49,269 Speaker 2: Ben say you could share that? 356 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:57,669 Speaker 1: I always knew you, even when not did know? You 357 00:20:58,189 --> 00:21:03,229 Speaker 1: don't make sense, but it do. I was on my lady, 358 00:21:03,349 --> 00:21:12,189 Speaker 1: you felt heavy, like. 359 00:21:12,389 --> 00:21:20,429 Speaker 2: Hell, Heaven sent me through pause. I moved, give me, 360 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:23,429 Speaker 2: I moved. I think you can tell. He's an award 361 00:21:23,469 --> 00:21:27,589 Speaker 2: winning film man, Claire. It's terrible and it looks like 362 00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:30,949 Speaker 2: he made it in that terrible like video editor that 363 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:33,309 Speaker 2: we all used in like year ten. Yeah, we had 364 00:21:33,349 --> 00:21:35,709 Speaker 2: it on our laptops. Then in all the images of him, 365 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:39,029 Speaker 2: which don't make any sense, are completely out of context. 366 00:21:39,309 --> 00:21:42,109 Speaker 2: He's always smoking and looking sad, and he's made it 367 00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:45,349 Speaker 2: black and white and grainy. Yes, he's definitely used. And 368 00:21:45,389 --> 00:21:48,949 Speaker 2: then he just puts man date yet. But Matt's like, 369 00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:52,829 Speaker 2: don't drag me into this shit. Why do I feel things? Huh? 370 00:21:53,509 --> 00:21:57,629 Speaker 2: Because it's lovely, it's not lovely. Yeah, it's quite beautiful. 371 00:21:57,669 --> 00:22:01,549 Speaker 2: Jim Ghana and him were together for seven and we're 372 00:22:01,589 --> 00:22:06,229 Speaker 2: singing a song about being on our yellow brick road 373 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:10,109 Speaker 2: that was always leading, that was always leading back to you. 374 00:22:10,589 --> 00:22:14,189 Speaker 2: And you've done this weird as shit remix video where 375 00:22:14,189 --> 00:22:18,309 Speaker 2: you've like redone her video clip with also like clips 376 00:22:18,309 --> 00:22:20,949 Speaker 2: from Jenny from the Block ye, and there's some well 377 00:22:20,989 --> 00:22:24,829 Speaker 2: she's standing like on a city. It's very j low, 378 00:22:25,589 --> 00:22:29,149 Speaker 2: very very j Lo. In twenty twenty two, Lopez announced 379 00:22:29,149 --> 00:22:32,029 Speaker 2: that they're engaged again, twenty years after the first time. 380 00:22:32,589 --> 00:22:35,429 Speaker 2: In July, they filed their marriage license in Vegas and 381 00:22:35,469 --> 00:22:39,349 Speaker 2: everyone was like, how low key they have changed. They 382 00:22:39,349 --> 00:22:42,469 Speaker 2: have learned, they have evolved. Good for you, because it's 383 00:22:42,509 --> 00:22:46,149 Speaker 2: like Jennifer Lopez needs to learn there's an inverse relationship 384 00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:47,949 Speaker 2: between how much you spend on your wedding and the 385 00:22:47,989 --> 00:22:51,269 Speaker 2: fuss that you make and how long that marriage lasts. Yeah, 386 00:22:51,309 --> 00:22:54,189 Speaker 2: and last time, why did their relationship end because of 387 00:22:54,189 --> 00:22:56,669 Speaker 2: the media, media attention. So I've just got to be 388 00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:59,509 Speaker 2: a bit more lokay. Ben doesn't like it, he doesn't 389 00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:02,109 Speaker 2: like the fuss. Jess. I've just got something to add, 390 00:23:02,669 --> 00:23:05,829 Speaker 2: which is, do you remember the Grammys last year, Ben 391 00:23:05,869 --> 00:23:09,349 Speaker 2: and Jen sitting in the audience, and Ben just generally 392 00:23:09,349 --> 00:23:12,469 Speaker 2: does look happy to be so many having a shit 393 00:23:13,069 --> 00:23:14,909 Speaker 2: so many. I think this might have been off the 394 00:23:14,909 --> 00:23:17,229 Speaker 2: back of the honeymoon that he didn't really Yeah, he 395 00:23:17,349 --> 00:23:18,909 Speaker 2: just wasn't having a great time and he was I'd 396 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:22,509 Speaker 2: rather be at home under the Eiffel Tower and now 397 00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:23,829 Speaker 2: I'm at the Grammys. You don't want to have a 398 00:23:23,829 --> 00:23:26,949 Speaker 2: little tif for the Grammys. And there's this footage of 399 00:23:27,069 --> 00:23:30,229 Speaker 2: Trevor Noah sitting beside them, and Trevoroah is a friend 400 00:23:30,269 --> 00:23:32,349 Speaker 2: of the family. Yeah, we'll touch on Trevor a little 401 00:23:32,349 --> 00:23:35,469 Speaker 2: bit later, but he is sitting there, and just to 402 00:23:35,509 --> 00:23:37,749 Speaker 2: the right of him, you can see Ben and Jen 403 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:40,669 Speaker 2: arguing that she is having a stern word to him. 404 00:23:40,709 --> 00:23:42,949 Speaker 2: She's kind of like pointing her finger at his chest 405 00:23:43,229 --> 00:23:46,669 Speaker 2: and he is looking cranky, and lip readers have said 406 00:23:46,869 --> 00:23:50,509 Speaker 2: that she was saying, cheer up and look more motivated. 407 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:53,509 Speaker 2: Sad Ben is bringing down the fire, yeah, because that's 408 00:23:53,549 --> 00:23:56,309 Speaker 2: the thing that camera pans. Everyone's looking excited and clapping 409 00:23:56,829 --> 00:23:59,589 Speaker 2: and Ben, Ben doesn't want to be look like a 410 00:23:59,669 --> 00:24:03,349 Speaker 2: rain cloud, and Jen like this is one of the 411 00:24:03,389 --> 00:24:06,629 Speaker 2: greatest nights of the Year. I look stunning. Look at 412 00:24:06,629 --> 00:24:09,549 Speaker 2: my skin, look at my hair, look at my dress. 413 00:24:09,589 --> 00:24:11,909 Speaker 2: I've got old dressed up and you can't even do 414 00:24:11,989 --> 00:24:14,989 Speaker 2: a little smile for the camera. Totally get that. I 415 00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:18,349 Speaker 2: actually don't think that that is necessarily an indication that 416 00:24:18,389 --> 00:24:21,029 Speaker 2: they were in trouble at that point, because we've all 417 00:24:21,069 --> 00:24:24,149 Speaker 2: done it. We've all turned to our partner and said, Okay, 418 00:24:24,189 --> 00:24:26,949 Speaker 2: I need you to bring more. Yeah, I know we're 419 00:24:26,989 --> 00:24:28,989 Speaker 2: in a shit situation with my family right now and 420 00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:30,909 Speaker 2: there being insufferable, but I'm going to need you to 421 00:24:30,989 --> 00:24:33,509 Speaker 2: suck it up. Yep. Sometimes we turn to each other 422 00:24:33,549 --> 00:24:38,069 Speaker 2: and we say lift, I need you to lift energetically. Yeah, 423 00:24:38,109 --> 00:24:40,509 Speaker 2: and that's what That's what Jenn was saying, man sign 424 00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:43,309 Speaker 2: of a healthy relationship at the Grammys. Lyft. So they 425 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:46,029 Speaker 2: get married in Vegas and I remember being like, honestly 426 00:24:46,589 --> 00:24:49,029 Speaker 2: never thought she was like, this is just an old dress, 427 00:24:49,069 --> 00:24:51,109 Speaker 2: and like I was like, yeah, you're still sharing it, 428 00:24:51,109 --> 00:24:54,509 Speaker 2: but good on you. Benefit have not changed after all, 429 00:24:54,949 --> 00:24:59,109 Speaker 2: Claire the wedding. The wedding took place at Afflex eighty 430 00:24:59,189 --> 00:25:03,149 Speaker 2: seven acre compound in Georgia. There was a rehearsal. J 431 00:25:03,309 --> 00:25:05,509 Speaker 2: Loo wore a gold frock. There was a horse with 432 00:25:05,589 --> 00:25:09,429 Speaker 2: pink flowers in its mate. She wore three Ralph Lauren gowns. 433 00:25:09,469 --> 00:25:11,429 Speaker 2: There is a drama image of j Loo in a 434 00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:15,389 Speaker 2: gown on a swing surrounded by chandeliers. Most of the 435 00:25:15,389 --> 00:25:18,949 Speaker 2: photos I've seen do not feature or allude to Ben, 436 00:25:19,149 --> 00:25:21,629 Speaker 2: and I do not mind. She wore more than two 437 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:25,509 Speaker 2: million dollars worth of diamonds and pearls. Jay Shetty officiated 438 00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:28,429 Speaker 2: the ceremony. There were fireworks, there was a post wedding 439 00:25:28,469 --> 00:25:32,149 Speaker 2: Sunday brunch. I saw photos, and there were donuts. What 440 00:25:32,309 --> 00:25:35,229 Speaker 2: an event. It is believed that the wedding cost them 441 00:25:35,309 --> 00:25:39,109 Speaker 2: half a million Australian dollars. Then they went on their honeymoon, 442 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:45,309 Speaker 2: and that's when sad Ben emerged. Claire, please explain sad Ben. Okay. 443 00:25:45,389 --> 00:25:48,869 Speaker 2: The thing about Ben is that sometimes he's photographed and 444 00:25:49,469 --> 00:25:53,269 Speaker 2: the spirit has left his soul, and in his eyes 445 00:25:53,309 --> 00:25:57,909 Speaker 2: there is only emptiness and hollowness and an existential thread, 446 00:25:58,109 --> 00:26:01,909 Speaker 2: and it scenes that all the weight of living has 447 00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:04,709 Speaker 2: fallen upon his shoulders. The weight of the universe is 448 00:26:04,709 --> 00:26:08,389 Speaker 2: sitting on his slumped shoulders as he has a Starbucks 449 00:26:08,389 --> 00:26:12,549 Speaker 2: coffee and aigarette and he's just like and I just 450 00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:15,829 Speaker 2: I love Jennifer Lopez. I don't think she has that 451 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:18,749 Speaker 2: same emotional experience. I think she's quite a happy lady. 452 00:26:18,909 --> 00:26:23,509 Speaker 2: I think she's upbeat. I think she's like where in France? Ben? 453 00:26:24,069 --> 00:26:26,109 Speaker 2: And Ben's like, it doesn't matter where I am as 454 00:26:26,109 --> 00:26:29,469 Speaker 2: a Sylvia Placid, I'm stewing in my own sour air. 455 00:26:30,629 --> 00:26:33,669 Speaker 2: Is how Ben is? Yeah, he's just dark cloud, dark 456 00:26:33,709 --> 00:26:36,869 Speaker 2: cloud Ben. The images that went viral of Ben Aras 457 00:26:36,909 --> 00:26:40,629 Speaker 2: follows Ben asleep on a boat, Ben looking sad on 458 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:44,509 Speaker 2: river cruise, Ben crying in a restaurant. Did the Eiffel Tower? 459 00:26:44,589 --> 00:26:46,349 Speaker 2: I should go up? But it was just under the 460 00:26:46,349 --> 00:26:51,549 Speaker 2: Eifel Tower, Ben looking exasperated Claire, who was very sad. 461 00:26:51,589 --> 00:26:55,069 Speaker 2: Ben on his euro summer. Now, no one deserves to 462 00:26:55,109 --> 00:26:57,909 Speaker 2: be stalked by paparazzi. I truly believe that, and you 463 00:26:57,909 --> 00:27:01,469 Speaker 2: can see how distressed it makes them both. But I reckon. 464 00:27:01,589 --> 00:27:04,429 Speaker 2: At this point, Ben is regretting the film clip he 465 00:27:04,469 --> 00:27:07,669 Speaker 2: made j Lo where he basically did a slide show 466 00:27:07,749 --> 00:27:09,629 Speaker 2: and then she said it to all her followers. Yes, 467 00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:14,589 Speaker 2: and also the wedding and then also such a flashy 468 00:27:14,669 --> 00:27:17,789 Speaker 2: honeymoon being fla. I think there are a place that 469 00:27:17,869 --> 00:27:21,349 Speaker 2: you could have gone. Yeah less and then they recreated the. 470 00:27:21,309 --> 00:27:26,109 Speaker 4: Thing on her bottom and I'm like, guys, we've been 471 00:27:26,189 --> 00:27:34,509 Speaker 4: here before, twenty years ago. 472 00:27:37,069 --> 00:27:41,669 Speaker 2: This is me now. I don't know how to tell 473 00:27:41,709 --> 00:27:44,629 Speaker 2: you what this is about. I watched it this morning. 474 00:27:45,469 --> 00:27:47,869 Speaker 2: I had it on in the background. I had it on. 475 00:27:48,629 --> 00:27:50,789 Speaker 2: Luna was just crawling around. I was trying to watch it. 476 00:27:50,749 --> 00:27:53,389 Speaker 2: It's the first film she's ever been exposed to. And 477 00:27:53,429 --> 00:27:56,949 Speaker 2: she stopped and said, what is this? What the fuck 478 00:27:57,069 --> 00:27:59,509 Speaker 2: is this? Make it end? I was like, honey, I 479 00:27:59,549 --> 00:28:02,509 Speaker 2: don't know. It's a visual album, but it has like 480 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:05,589 Speaker 2: a script source a musical, and there's a wedding and 481 00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:07,949 Speaker 2: too many famous people are in it. And there is 482 00:28:07,989 --> 00:28:10,789 Speaker 2: a line that she wrote because she wrote this that 483 00:28:10,909 --> 00:28:14,269 Speaker 2: says she's smart, she's beautiful. Why does she always need 484 00:28:14,309 --> 00:28:21,549 Speaker 2: to be with someone? Which I respect Jen Jen. I 485 00:28:21,749 --> 00:28:25,589 Speaker 2: watched it, and in terms of the celebrity cameos, I 486 00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:28,989 Speaker 2: was like, this is so interesting because it's an insight 487 00:28:29,109 --> 00:28:33,149 Speaker 2: into who can't say no exactly because everyone was asked. 488 00:28:33,629 --> 00:28:36,309 Speaker 2: Everyone Rizzo said no, I can't do that. If I 489 00:28:36,349 --> 00:28:38,229 Speaker 2: was a Hollywood person, would I have been in it 490 00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:41,509 Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, you never know I was there the idea 491 00:28:41,509 --> 00:28:45,669 Speaker 2: of hurting Jen's feelings when she seems like a sweet person. Okay, 492 00:28:45,709 --> 00:28:48,709 Speaker 2: So there's This is Me Now, and there's also The 493 00:28:48,709 --> 00:28:51,349 Speaker 2: Greatest Love Story Never Told, which is a documentary about 494 00:28:51,349 --> 00:28:53,989 Speaker 2: This is Me Now. So in The Greatest s Story 495 00:28:54,069 --> 00:28:56,709 Speaker 2: Never Told, we learn that she did ask a lot 496 00:28:56,709 --> 00:28:59,509 Speaker 2: of celebrities and she got really upset when they said no, 497 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:01,509 Speaker 2: and then they were like, oh, so and so says 498 00:29:01,509 --> 00:29:03,989 Speaker 2: that they're at a wedding, and she's like call them, 499 00:29:04,029 --> 00:29:06,309 Speaker 2: like she's just forcing them to be in her movie. 500 00:29:06,349 --> 00:29:09,189 Speaker 2: And then she's like, it's because they don't like the script, 501 00:29:09,229 --> 00:29:12,549 Speaker 2: and then she gets very well. In one scene, the 502 00:29:12,589 --> 00:29:15,429 Speaker 2: casting director says to her, we sent out all the 503 00:29:15,469 --> 00:29:17,829 Speaker 2: offers last night to everybody. We're waiting to hear back 504 00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:21,389 Speaker 2: from a few people. And then a voice off camera says, 505 00:29:21,509 --> 00:29:24,789 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is a no. Jason Momoa is not available, 506 00:29:24,869 --> 00:29:29,069 Speaker 2: Jennifer Coolidge not available, Lizo not available. Then someone asks 507 00:29:29,149 --> 00:29:32,469 Speaker 2: Jlo if she wants Vanessa Hudgens by the way, and 508 00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:40,709 Speaker 2: she responds for what, same fabe for another person says 509 00:29:40,829 --> 00:29:44,989 Speaker 2: she's not available. At another point, Jennifer says it'd be 510 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:46,909 Speaker 2: good to get Bad Bunny to do a little cameo 511 00:29:46,989 --> 00:29:49,909 Speaker 2: as the bad kid, and she's then told Ariana Grande 512 00:29:49,949 --> 00:29:54,269 Speaker 2: is unavailable. She's in London until September, and when they're 513 00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:57,469 Speaker 2: talking about her famous friends being busy, she says, I 514 00:29:57,509 --> 00:29:59,869 Speaker 2: don't want to force anybody to do this. Who doesn't 515 00:29:59,909 --> 00:30:02,189 Speaker 2: go this is going to be fun. Nobody wants to 516 00:30:02,189 --> 00:30:04,949 Speaker 2: say no to me. I get that. But when an 517 00:30:04,949 --> 00:30:07,189 Speaker 2: actor doesn't like a script, or doesn't think it's good enough, 518 00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:10,269 Speaker 2: or is worried about it, that's what they'll say. I 519 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:13,189 Speaker 2: know that I've done it, so don't push them, don't 520 00:30:13,189 --> 00:30:15,989 Speaker 2: put it a mate. When they say no to your script, 521 00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:21,349 Speaker 2: don't want to be in your film. Well, the other 522 00:30:21,349 --> 00:30:24,709 Speaker 2: thing she says, because apparently Chloe Kardashian was supposed to 523 00:30:24,709 --> 00:30:26,829 Speaker 2: make a cameo and it didn't happen, And she says 524 00:30:27,629 --> 00:30:30,549 Speaker 2: people are scared to put themselves out there. I get it, 525 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:33,149 Speaker 2: took me a long time. I'm scared, and I don't 526 00:30:33,149 --> 00:30:36,749 Speaker 2: think that's it. Then I'm talking about Taylor Swift. She's 527 00:30:36,749 --> 00:30:39,429 Speaker 2: put herself out there plenty. Taylor Swift scared of the 528 00:30:39,469 --> 00:30:44,589 Speaker 2: power of the platform. Jaylo would offer her. Honestly, it 529 00:30:44,589 --> 00:30:46,789 Speaker 2: gives me a lot of respect, like knowing that somebody 530 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:50,429 Speaker 2: like Lizzo got a call and then said, ah, let 531 00:30:50,429 --> 00:30:53,629 Speaker 2: me know what I respect is that a call was 532 00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:56,469 Speaker 2: made to listen. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I respect because 533 00:30:56,509 --> 00:31:00,069 Speaker 2: just for some context, she writes this album this is 534 00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:02,749 Speaker 2: Me Now, and it was about because this is Me 535 00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:04,229 Speaker 2: Then was written when she was first with men, and 536 00:31:04,269 --> 00:31:06,349 Speaker 2: she only writes albums when she's with Ben. She didn't 537 00:31:06,349 --> 00:31:08,309 Speaker 2: write an album in like twenty years. Anyway, she writes 538 00:31:08,309 --> 00:31:10,629 Speaker 2: this is Me Now. She's like, Okay, yep, I want 539 00:31:10,629 --> 00:31:12,309 Speaker 2: to tell this story. I'm going to make it like 540 00:31:12,349 --> 00:31:16,069 Speaker 2: this movie visual album. And some distributor is like, yeah, yeah, cool, 541 00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:18,149 Speaker 2: we'll give you some money. And then they pull it 542 00:31:18,229 --> 00:31:21,429 Speaker 2: and they're like actually I think they saw the script, 543 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:23,989 Speaker 2: but they were like, this doesn't make us any money, 544 00:31:24,189 --> 00:31:26,669 Speaker 2: like Beyonce sing didn't make us money. This isn't a 545 00:31:26,709 --> 00:31:30,389 Speaker 2: good business. Move fast. And then she realizes that she's 546 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:34,189 Speaker 2: got to fund it. But that's not the answer. I 547 00:31:34,189 --> 00:31:36,869 Speaker 2: would just pull. I would just pull. Sometimes we're told 548 00:31:36,909 --> 00:31:40,309 Speaker 2: no because the answer is no. So it's a three 549 00:31:40,509 --> 00:31:45,869 Speaker 2: part multimedia project. What is that twenty million dollars of 550 00:31:45,869 --> 00:31:50,029 Speaker 2: her own money, and the description says it examines and 551 00:31:50,069 --> 00:31:53,989 Speaker 2: plays with her life as a serial romantic. And she 552 00:31:54,069 --> 00:31:56,189 Speaker 2: says it's a twenty year project. But we can't say 553 00:31:56,229 --> 00:31:57,949 Speaker 2: it's twenty year project just because we don't do anything 554 00:31:57,989 --> 00:32:02,669 Speaker 2: else for twenty years. Yeah, well we relatable. Neil de 555 00:32:02,749 --> 00:32:07,749 Speaker 2: grass Tyson is a literal astrophysicist. He writes books about 556 00:32:07,749 --> 00:32:11,069 Speaker 2: traveling to space. He has a species of named after him. 557 00:32:11,109 --> 00:32:13,749 Speaker 2: Why is he in Jalo's movie? Could have done so 558 00:32:13,949 --> 00:32:17,989 Speaker 2: much science. We are so diacal, council, but the stars 559 00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:20,549 Speaker 2: hold all the power. When she did the greatest love 560 00:32:20,629 --> 00:32:23,309 Speaker 2: story never told? Except all she does is tell her 561 00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:28,109 Speaker 2: she wanted to tell the story in all mediums immediately 562 00:32:28,189 --> 00:32:31,269 Speaker 2: available to her. Yes. Right. At one point she brings 563 00:32:31,829 --> 00:32:34,149 Speaker 2: this book in that Ben gifted her, which has all 564 00:32:34,189 --> 00:32:37,429 Speaker 2: their emails from two thousand and two, and they interview 565 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:40,629 Speaker 2: someone who's like, we were allowed to touch the letters. 566 00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:44,629 Speaker 2: I don't believe it, And it's like, is Jlo making 567 00:32:44,669 --> 00:32:47,189 Speaker 2: this film too? And did she make you say that? 568 00:32:47,989 --> 00:32:52,869 Speaker 2: And these people think they are touching a diary of 569 00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:57,229 Speaker 2: great hist roles signific Winston Churchhill and not a printed 570 00:32:57,269 --> 00:33:03,189 Speaker 2: out email from Ben, You've been showing all the musicians 571 00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:06,149 Speaker 2: all these letters that are and they were like, yeah, 572 00:33:06,349 --> 00:33:10,469 Speaker 2: we call you Penaflak. And she exclaims, I don't expect 573 00:33:10,469 --> 00:33:14,589 Speaker 2: anyone to get this, like why are you making it? 574 00:33:14,629 --> 00:33:17,109 Speaker 2: Because she wants people to believe in love. She says, 575 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:20,869 Speaker 2: don't you see my favorite scene? She has to leave 576 00:33:20,909 --> 00:33:24,669 Speaker 2: the set and everyone's chasing her, asking questions because she's 577 00:33:24,709 --> 00:33:26,669 Speaker 2: the boss, and she's just like, it's very Jenny from 578 00:33:26,709 --> 00:33:28,709 Speaker 2: the block, like oh, I'm so overwhelmed. And she's getting 579 00:33:28,709 --> 00:33:31,149 Speaker 2: in a car that's like actually a track it's and 580 00:33:31,149 --> 00:33:33,829 Speaker 2: it's very like, oh my gosh, this project is huge, 581 00:33:33,829 --> 00:33:36,989 Speaker 2: and it's like, you solely are responsible to this. You 582 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:39,269 Speaker 2: can pull the plug at any point, an you can go. 583 00:33:39,389 --> 00:33:41,309 Speaker 2: This is too much. She's like I have to go, 584 00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:45,029 Speaker 2: and I'm like, where Jen? This is your project, your 585 00:33:45,069 --> 00:33:49,229 Speaker 2: only project, except for the documentary you're making about this project. 586 00:33:49,389 --> 00:33:53,309 Speaker 2: But someone is filming that documentary now because I'm watching 587 00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:56,869 Speaker 2: the greatest love story Never told. Okay, then there's another 588 00:33:56,949 --> 00:34:00,709 Speaker 2: documentary I found called Ben and Jen Never Say Never Ah, 589 00:34:00,829 --> 00:34:04,709 Speaker 2: which is confusing because Justin Bieber's documentary is called Never 590 00:34:04,749 --> 00:34:08,829 Speaker 2: Say Never. The timeline reads like a soap opera, two 591 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:12,949 Speaker 2: decades filled with hot romance, heartbreak, multiple marriages, broken engagements, 592 00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:15,589 Speaker 2: and five children between them. The love story of pop 593 00:34:15,749 --> 00:34:18,429 Speaker 2: icon Jennifer Lopez and movie star Ben Affleck began with 594 00:34:18,509 --> 00:34:20,869 Speaker 2: a movie set meeting in two thousand and two, which 595 00:34:20,949 --> 00:34:23,869 Speaker 2: waived its way to the altar twenty years later, share 596 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:27,189 Speaker 2: the Secrets of Pink Diamonds, of Racy Yacht Video and 597 00:34:27,229 --> 00:34:31,189 Speaker 2: Bubble Bath Proposal. So this is the third Like, these 598 00:34:31,189 --> 00:34:35,309 Speaker 2: two people have been together for like a combined eleven 599 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:40,909 Speaker 2: months over two engagements, and I have to watch three 600 00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:45,869 Speaker 2: movies about the mon Amazon pri one album and one album, 601 00:34:45,989 --> 00:34:49,149 Speaker 2: two albums. It's hard because with the greatest love story, 602 00:34:49,149 --> 00:34:51,549 Speaker 2: I never told there aren't any steakes because it's just 603 00:34:51,629 --> 00:34:53,549 Speaker 2: Jen's money and she's making a documentary and I'm like, 604 00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:56,229 Speaker 2: whether you lose it all or you don't, you're still 605 00:34:56,269 --> 00:34:59,069 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez and you're with Ben Affleck. So I'm not 606 00:34:59,069 --> 00:35:01,509 Speaker 2: not rooting for you. I just don't think you've got 607 00:35:01,589 --> 00:35:04,429 Speaker 2: much to lose, Yeah, she says. At one point in 608 00:35:04,509 --> 00:35:07,709 Speaker 2: the documentary about the movie, she says, I have good intentions. 609 00:35:07,789 --> 00:35:09,629 Speaker 2: I just don't want it to suck and that's all 610 00:35:09,629 --> 00:35:14,789 Speaker 2: of us with pursuit so well, but it does. And 611 00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:17,549 Speaker 2: then Ben says, that's just inexperience. You haven't done this 612 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:21,229 Speaker 2: before because he has made films and he's like his 613 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:25,469 Speaker 2: disinesce and oh nah, he was like, no, it's great, babe, 614 00:35:25,549 --> 00:35:29,309 Speaker 2: it's really good. Divorce rumors. A few months after The 615 00:35:29,309 --> 00:35:31,629 Speaker 2: Greatest Love Story Never Told and This Is Me Now 616 00:35:31,949 --> 00:35:35,269 Speaker 2: was released, rumors emerged that Ben and Jen were separating, 617 00:35:35,629 --> 00:35:38,909 Speaker 2: which sucks in terms of timing. I'm going to give 618 00:35:38,909 --> 00:35:40,949 Speaker 2: you a bit of a timeline about what has happened 619 00:35:41,949 --> 00:35:44,909 Speaker 2: in the last honestly, like four or five months. It's 620 00:35:44,949 --> 00:35:48,909 Speaker 2: May sixth, twenty twenty four. Jalo is at the met Gala. 621 00:35:49,749 --> 00:35:52,829 Speaker 2: No Ben insight to that. I say Ben had hate 622 00:35:52,869 --> 00:35:55,549 Speaker 2: the Metgala? Is it that unusual that he is not there? 623 00:35:56,349 --> 00:35:59,669 Speaker 2: May twelve, her and Ben do not spend Mother's Day together. 624 00:36:00,429 --> 00:36:05,869 Speaker 2: May fourteen, j Loo is house hunting without Ben. May fifteen, 625 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:09,349 Speaker 2: there are reports that Ben has moved out. May sixteen, 626 00:36:09,749 --> 00:36:13,189 Speaker 2: Ben pictured leaving his new residence where he's living alone. 627 00:36:13,629 --> 00:36:17,509 Speaker 2: But he's wearing his wedding ring. Okay. J Lo then 628 00:36:17,749 --> 00:36:21,269 Speaker 2: likes a post on Instagram Claire, I would like you 629 00:36:21,909 --> 00:36:27,069 Speaker 2: to just give listeners a gist of the post that 630 00:36:27,189 --> 00:36:31,869 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez liked on May the sixteenth, from her account. Ah, 631 00:36:32,509 --> 00:36:36,549 Speaker 2: you cannot build a healthy relationship with someone who lacks 632 00:36:36,549 --> 00:36:40,469 Speaker 2: integrity and emotional safety, doesn't respect your time, doesn't think 633 00:36:40,509 --> 00:36:43,669 Speaker 2: it's important to call, slash text back in a respectable time. 634 00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:47,789 Speaker 2: Friend texting her lacks effective communication skills. He's talking to 635 00:36:47,869 --> 00:36:52,909 Speaker 2: his friends, doesn't strippers who they are or what they want. 636 00:36:53,709 --> 00:36:57,229 Speaker 2: Devil's advocate. Maybe she's talk about one of our other husbands. No, 637 00:36:57,789 --> 00:37:01,869 Speaker 2: she could be talking no current husband. Well, it's funny 638 00:37:01,949 --> 00:37:04,629 Speaker 2: you say that, though, because I think A few days later, 639 00:37:05,269 --> 00:37:08,189 Speaker 2: they're photographed together at a school play of one of 640 00:37:08,229 --> 00:37:12,349 Speaker 2: the children wearing their wedding rings. We go. Things get weirder. 641 00:37:12,709 --> 00:37:15,149 Speaker 2: Two days after that, they're spotted in a car together 642 00:37:15,869 --> 00:37:19,149 Speaker 2: and then Ben's phone starts ringing and his screen is 643 00:37:19,229 --> 00:37:21,869 Speaker 2: visible to the paps. Have you heard this? I've seen 644 00:37:21,909 --> 00:37:26,989 Speaker 2: the picture and it reads Jennifer affleck. But she's right 645 00:37:27,069 --> 00:37:32,389 Speaker 2: there to Gleitch in the matrix. I don't understand. Oh, 646 00:37:32,549 --> 00:37:35,109 Speaker 2: that is weird. That is weird. 647 00:37:35,189 --> 00:37:35,269 Speaker 3: No. 648 00:37:35,469 --> 00:37:37,309 Speaker 2: I saw memes about it, but I didn't see the 649 00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:41,589 Speaker 2: original it's Jennifer. Jenny's right there. The rumors ramp up, 650 00:37:41,629 --> 00:37:44,909 Speaker 2: with sources telling people Ben hates all attention and it 651 00:37:44,989 --> 00:37:48,469 Speaker 2: makes him very uncomfortable. Jennifer has always had a different approach. 652 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:51,909 Speaker 2: I don't appreciate the blaming Jennifer. No, not one beer. 653 00:37:51,949 --> 00:37:55,709 Speaker 2: He knew who she was. She has never changed. This 654 00:37:55,949 --> 00:38:00,069 Speaker 2: is me, then, this is me now, this have always 655 00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:05,349 Speaker 2: been later, she's clear a journalist. Then asks Jen outright, 656 00:38:05,709 --> 00:38:08,589 Speaker 2: if they're separated, love that journalist me too. Take him 657 00:38:08,589 --> 00:38:11,669 Speaker 2: on for the team doing Godswick says, you know better 658 00:38:11,709 --> 00:38:17,189 Speaker 2: than that. Then they're holding hands. She's hot broke. Then 659 00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:19,989 Speaker 2: Lopez announced that she would not be doing her summer 660 00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:24,629 Speaker 2: tour as planned. Pictures of visits me now toa she's 661 00:38:24,709 --> 00:38:27,869 Speaker 2: not doing it just that's like a huge part of 662 00:38:27,909 --> 00:38:32,709 Speaker 2: promoting her three part twenty millions of pundage project. Well, 663 00:38:32,749 --> 00:38:34,429 Speaker 2: she's not doing it because she has to spend time 664 00:38:34,469 --> 00:38:38,429 Speaker 2: with her family on and she's sorry by the time 665 00:38:38,509 --> 00:38:40,069 Speaker 2: she tours that it's not even going to be her 666 00:38:40,149 --> 00:38:43,909 Speaker 2: now anymore. It's going to be her band again. Then 667 00:38:43,949 --> 00:38:46,349 Speaker 2: they put their sixty million dollar house on the market. 668 00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:50,469 Speaker 2: In June, Ben is on Kevin Hart's podcast and basically 669 00:38:50,509 --> 00:38:51,829 Speaker 2: says he hates all the attention. 670 00:38:52,149 --> 00:38:53,589 Speaker 1: I'm also a little bit shy. 671 00:38:53,709 --> 00:38:56,349 Speaker 2: I also like a lot of attention. Is why people 672 00:38:56,389 --> 00:38:57,829 Speaker 2: see me and they're like, let's do it? Always mad 673 00:38:58,629 --> 00:39:00,709 Speaker 2: because somebody has their cameras thinking in my face and 674 00:39:00,749 --> 00:39:04,669 Speaker 2: you have reste you know, I have resting hard fist, 675 00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:07,909 Speaker 2: He says. Paparazzi can take pictures of him, he doesn't 676 00:39:07,909 --> 00:39:10,389 Speaker 2: give a fuck if they're taking pictures of Jen, not 677 00:39:10,509 --> 00:39:13,549 Speaker 2: his kids. Then he takes his wedding ring off and 678 00:39:13,549 --> 00:39:17,669 Speaker 2: then the next day is back. On July twenty, Lopez 679 00:39:17,709 --> 00:39:21,909 Speaker 2: has a Bridgitton themed birthday party. I having brackets fun 680 00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:26,389 Speaker 2: and Ben doesn't come. That would slap. The only thing 681 00:39:26,429 --> 00:39:28,869 Speaker 2: I will say about the Bridgeton themed birthday party was 682 00:39:28,909 --> 00:39:33,549 Speaker 2: it girls only? Ah? It feels like a gal's event. Well, 683 00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:36,069 Speaker 2: Ben wasn't there. I don't think you'd like dressing up. 684 00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:39,709 Speaker 2: But July twenty seven, Ben Affleck goes rogue and purchases 685 00:39:39,709 --> 00:39:42,389 Speaker 2: a five bedroom home in LA for cheeky twenty mil. 686 00:39:42,989 --> 00:39:44,669 Speaker 2: My question is, why do you need a home if 687 00:39:44,709 --> 00:39:48,709 Speaker 2: you already have a home with j Lo Claire. Any 688 00:39:48,789 --> 00:39:51,949 Speaker 2: minute now, we will have an announcement that Ben and 689 00:39:52,029 --> 00:39:57,829 Speaker 2: Jen are over gupych Finn Benito Non. It's too sad 690 00:39:57,909 --> 00:40:01,229 Speaker 2: because it's the greatest love story that has been told 691 00:40:01,309 --> 00:40:04,229 Speaker 2: over and over and over again. And the issue, you know, 692 00:40:04,269 --> 00:40:06,269 Speaker 2: how like when you break up, like there are so 693 00:40:06,389 --> 00:40:10,629 Speaker 2: many photos and momentos and stuff. It's like she created them. 694 00:40:10,869 --> 00:40:12,829 Speaker 2: It's like you'd go and watch that film, clear that 695 00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:16,589 Speaker 2: Ben made you. She created twenty million dollars worth relationship 696 00:40:16,709 --> 00:40:22,909 Speaker 2: content momentums, twenty million dollars was only this is me now. 697 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:25,709 Speaker 2: It wasn't the greatest love story I never told, and 698 00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:27,669 Speaker 2: I don't know if I had anything to do with 699 00:40:27,709 --> 00:40:30,469 Speaker 2: Ben and Jen. Never say never, Oh Claire, it is 700 00:40:30,549 --> 00:40:37,389 Speaker 2: time for charges and sentences. I'm gonna go first. My 701 00:40:37,629 --> 00:40:46,629 Speaker 2: charge charges are dop points because there are multiple intensity 702 00:40:46,749 --> 00:40:53,549 Speaker 2: counting eggs before they have hatched, tempting fate, making two 703 00:40:53,669 --> 00:40:58,029 Speaker 2: movies about your new husband, and making Jane fonderby in it. Okay, 704 00:40:58,269 --> 00:41:01,469 Speaker 2: what I will say about your framing of this and 705 00:41:01,509 --> 00:41:05,629 Speaker 2: potentially our framing of the waste. It's been very gen focused, 706 00:41:05,949 --> 00:41:09,869 Speaker 2: wasting Neil deGrasse Tyson's time. I think Jenny is so 707 00:41:10,229 --> 00:41:12,509 Speaker 2: titled to make her art. I think he's just so 708 00:41:12,669 --> 00:41:14,469 Speaker 2: entitled to make her art. But I just think that 709 00:41:14,589 --> 00:41:17,949 Speaker 2: Neil over here could be discovering another planet and instead 710 00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:22,669 Speaker 2: he's Gemini or Sagittarius or something. He must know astrology 711 00:41:22,749 --> 00:41:24,989 Speaker 2: is bullshit, he does. I'm pretty sure he says it 712 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:29,829 Speaker 2: in the documentary about the film making a movie visual 713 00:41:29,869 --> 00:41:32,709 Speaker 2: album about your life while also making a documentary about 714 00:41:32,709 --> 00:41:35,549 Speaker 2: the movie visual album about your life, And is this inception? 715 00:41:37,269 --> 00:41:41,909 Speaker 2: We didn't necessarily want to be emotionally invested in your relationship, 716 00:41:41,989 --> 00:41:46,309 Speaker 2: but then you made multiple I repeat multiple films about it, 717 00:41:46,469 --> 00:41:49,949 Speaker 2: and now we want to know if you guys are okay, yes, yes, 718 00:41:50,429 --> 00:41:53,109 Speaker 2: So what's your sentence? I don't want them to be over, 719 00:41:54,229 --> 00:41:57,389 Speaker 2: but I think they're over me too, And in that way, 720 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:59,669 Speaker 2: I think the worst thing that could have happened to 721 00:41:59,709 --> 00:42:03,309 Speaker 2: them both has happened. No, I do, so why would 722 00:42:03,309 --> 00:42:08,629 Speaker 2: I punish them? Ah? Well, Bennifer is no longer, oh Darling, Okay, Well, 723 00:42:08,669 --> 00:42:13,989 Speaker 2: my charge is similar to yours. It is content inception, 724 00:42:15,869 --> 00:42:19,389 Speaker 2: content about content about content. Yeah, greatest love story never told? 725 00:42:19,429 --> 00:42:22,709 Speaker 2: I would argue that it's been told. Yeah, my sentence, if 726 00:42:22,749 --> 00:42:25,269 Speaker 2: you're going to make the greatest love story never told 727 00:42:25,789 --> 00:42:28,669 Speaker 2: about your romance and then now it looks like that 728 00:42:28,789 --> 00:42:32,669 Speaker 2: romance has ended. I need to know. I need the 729 00:42:32,669 --> 00:42:36,669 Speaker 2: Greatest love Story Never Told? BTS. Oh my god, you 730 00:42:36,709 --> 00:42:39,989 Speaker 2: need more content and sectional content. You create the world 731 00:42:40,029 --> 00:42:43,589 Speaker 2: of the dream. We bring the subject into that dream 732 00:42:43,629 --> 00:42:47,789 Speaker 2: and they feel it. They're subconscious and Jen. What Jen's 733 00:42:47,789 --> 00:42:50,509 Speaker 2: doing is she's releasing a lot of polished content. We've 734 00:42:50,549 --> 00:42:54,109 Speaker 2: got a lot of like professional video clip. What I 735 00:42:54,149 --> 00:42:57,869 Speaker 2: need is the candid moments where she's like, it's not working. 736 00:42:58,589 --> 00:43:02,069 Speaker 2: I'm worried that the Great sub Story Never Told was contrived, 737 00:43:02,189 --> 00:43:04,309 Speaker 2: that it was a documentary about a film, but that 738 00:43:04,509 --> 00:43:08,589 Speaker 2: was also had a like editorial spin. And what I 739 00:43:08,629 --> 00:43:12,389 Speaker 2: want is like, as you say, like a behind the scenes, 740 00:43:12,909 --> 00:43:16,509 Speaker 2: dirty grimy iPhone camera where we get the can we 741 00:43:16,549 --> 00:43:20,549 Speaker 2: do another take? I'm being more interested. I want the 742 00:43:20,629 --> 00:43:24,269 Speaker 2: guy who made the poshen Becks documentary. I want him 743 00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:27,589 Speaker 2: to do a Jen and Ben Tocco and actually reveal 744 00:43:27,709 --> 00:43:31,069 Speaker 2: some really interesting stuff about their dynamic. Yeah, that's what 745 00:43:31,149 --> 00:43:33,829 Speaker 2: I need. I need more content. Do you think they're done? 746 00:43:34,029 --> 00:43:36,189 Speaker 2: I think that maybe they are done. And it's so 747 00:43:36,269 --> 00:43:38,749 Speaker 2: sad because it was such a long game. It was 748 00:43:38,789 --> 00:43:41,829 Speaker 2: a long game and even on the YouTube video like 749 00:43:41,949 --> 00:43:45,309 Speaker 2: where he made the film clip. Everyone was really supportive 750 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:47,629 Speaker 2: and encouraged, and they felt like it did mean that 751 00:43:47,669 --> 00:43:50,509 Speaker 2: they too could finally find love. It made everyone think 752 00:43:50,549 --> 00:43:52,629 Speaker 2: that they could get back with their ex and actually 753 00:43:52,669 --> 00:43:54,789 Speaker 2: live out a love story that they thought was dead. 754 00:43:55,149 --> 00:43:58,469 Speaker 2: But the lesson is, don't make too much content about 755 00:43:58,509 --> 00:44:01,909 Speaker 2: your relationship, especially when your husband has told you he 756 00:44:01,989 --> 00:44:06,069 Speaker 2: doesn't like when you make content about your relationship. I 757 00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:10,909 Speaker 2: do think it's done, but Jalo is fifty five. So 758 00:44:11,029 --> 00:44:15,149 Speaker 2: what I'll say is that there's time in another twenty 759 00:44:15,229 --> 00:44:18,269 Speaker 2: years to tell the greatest love story. Never We've got 760 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:20,909 Speaker 2: another round in us. We've got another round. As the 761 00:44:20,989 --> 00:44:24,389 Speaker 2: film says, never say never, Never say never. I think 762 00:44:24,429 --> 00:44:27,309 Speaker 2: you could do another round. Have twenty years, have some 763 00:44:27,309 --> 00:44:30,749 Speaker 2: more marriages, yeh, have some more experiences. Benefits three point zero, 764 00:44:30,749 --> 00:44:33,469 Speaker 2: and then she can be like his sad man still sad, Yes, 765 00:44:33,749 --> 00:44:36,429 Speaker 2: yeah he is, he is. He's still complicated. Benefits three 766 00:44:36,469 --> 00:44:39,549 Speaker 2: point zero. Claire, before we go, we are now doing 767 00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:43,029 Speaker 2: lazy girls story at the end. Yeah, don't ask. It's 768 00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:46,149 Speaker 2: just a creative decision, Jens, to make creative decisions. What 769 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:49,869 Speaker 2: can we make creative decisions? Today's lazy girl story, just 770 00:44:49,949 --> 00:44:51,589 Speaker 2: to put it on the record, Jen, it's not a 771 00:44:51,669 --> 00:44:55,709 Speaker 2: lazy girl. Oh absolutely not. Everyone said, don't make this movie. 772 00:44:55,789 --> 00:44:57,389 Speaker 2: Don't make this movie. You don't have to make this movie. 773 00:44:57,909 --> 00:45:00,869 Speaker 2: Lazy girls would have taken that said, oh thank god, 774 00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:04,669 Speaker 2: I'll lay in bed with my twenty meal. Okay, lazy 775 00:45:04,669 --> 00:45:08,109 Speaker 2: girl story in school. I actually made it to Zone 776 00:45:08,149 --> 00:45:12,069 Speaker 2: Athletics for one hundred meter sprint. I'm really impressed with that. 777 00:45:12,509 --> 00:45:17,829 Speaker 2: God I'm slow because that takes power strength. Sprinting's hard. Sprinting. 778 00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:21,829 Speaker 2: You don't fluke it. You should be a common data. 779 00:45:22,429 --> 00:45:24,509 Speaker 2: It was half a day to travel to and from 780 00:45:24,549 --> 00:45:27,869 Speaker 2: the stadium that held it at I got to the raceline, 781 00:45:29,189 --> 00:45:32,269 Speaker 2: looked around and figured I was way out of place. 782 00:45:32,749 --> 00:45:33,829 Speaker 2: So I made my way back. 783 00:45:34,109 --> 00:45:34,229 Speaker 4: Enough. 784 00:45:34,349 --> 00:45:39,429 Speaker 2: Save that energy for another day. She's a lazy girl. Now. 785 00:45:39,429 --> 00:45:41,629 Speaker 2: This is something really lovely about lazy girls, is that 786 00:45:41,669 --> 00:45:44,269 Speaker 2: we know when our energy is not going to be 787 00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:46,549 Speaker 2: well spent. So she went, Am I gonna win? No? 788 00:45:46,749 --> 00:45:48,789 Speaker 2: I don't know how I got into this. Have I 789 00:45:48,869 --> 00:45:52,069 Speaker 2: traveled all the way here? Absolutely, But I'm not going 790 00:45:52,149 --> 00:45:54,189 Speaker 2: to run just to lose. I'm gonna sit in the stand. 791 00:45:54,229 --> 00:45:56,069 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm not gonna run one hundred meters. I'm 792 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:58,029 Speaker 2: gonna walk the one hundred meters back to the stand 793 00:45:58,069 --> 00:46:01,349 Speaker 2: and disappoint everyone. And I'm gonna get some hot chips 794 00:46:01,469 --> 00:46:04,789 Speaker 2: with extra tomato sauce and something I love to do, 795 00:46:04,989 --> 00:46:08,949 Speaker 2: watch athletics. Watch the rest of this love some really 796 00:46:08,989 --> 00:46:11,909 Speaker 2: talented athletes. Yeah yeah, but who among us has not 797 00:46:11,949 --> 00:46:16,189 Speaker 2: gotten to the gym and thought not today, Not today. 798 00:46:16,269 --> 00:46:18,149 Speaker 2: I did. I put on the shoes. Everyone says putting 799 00:46:18,189 --> 00:46:20,109 Speaker 2: on the shoes as the hardest part. I put on 800 00:46:20,149 --> 00:46:21,749 Speaker 2: the shoes. I still don't want to be here. I'm 801 00:46:21,789 --> 00:46:25,549 Speaker 2: going home. I'm getting KFC. The lazy girl, man, right, 802 00:46:25,749 --> 00:46:28,629 Speaker 2: is it's self care. It is self care. That's what 803 00:46:28,709 --> 00:46:30,429 Speaker 2: she did, and she would have got the day off 804 00:46:30,429 --> 00:46:33,669 Speaker 2: school already. Yeah, so it's like, you go home now. 805 00:46:34,589 --> 00:46:37,709 Speaker 2: You can even tell people you won. Yeah I got injured, 806 00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:40,189 Speaker 2: Like you can tell people whatever you like. I really 807 00:46:40,229 --> 00:46:42,989 Speaker 2: like that lazy girl. Thank you so much for joining 808 00:46:43,029 --> 00:46:46,869 Speaker 2: us on this episode of Canceled. This episode was produced 809 00:46:46,909 --> 00:46:50,189 Speaker 2: by Telisabezazz and Kimberly Bradish And we will be back 810 00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:55,069 Speaker 2: next week. Bye bye.