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But I 28 00:01:51,549 --> 00:01:53,309 Speaker 2: need you to have that suck in your head, okay, 29 00:01:53,349 --> 00:01:55,029 Speaker 2: because I've had that song suck in my head for 30 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:58,029 Speaker 2: a week. It's why you've been gonna weird later. And 31 00:01:58,069 --> 00:02:02,789 Speaker 2: it's tangentially related to Beyonce. Okay, cool cool? Who's that song? 32 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:07,989 Speaker 2: By jackol Okay? Okay cool cool? Hello, and welcome to Canceled. 33 00:02:08,029 --> 00:02:11,229 Speaker 2: It is a lazy girl's guide to bizarre so pretty cancelations. 34 00:02:11,349 --> 00:02:14,989 Speaker 2: I am Jesse Stevens. I'm joined by Claire Stephens. Claire, 35 00:02:15,029 --> 00:02:17,669 Speaker 2: I asked you for this episode to not watch any 36 00:02:17,669 --> 00:02:21,389 Speaker 2: Beyonce tiktoks and that wasn't so hard because for context, 37 00:02:21,589 --> 00:02:25,029 Speaker 2: I am on a book deadline, so I have been 38 00:02:25,789 --> 00:02:28,389 Speaker 2: I've done that thing where I've deleted TikTok from my 39 00:02:28,469 --> 00:02:30,349 Speaker 2: like home screen, but it's still there. If I just 40 00:02:30,349 --> 00:02:32,749 Speaker 2: swipe an extra screen so you try not to go 41 00:02:32,789 --> 00:02:34,709 Speaker 2: on TikTok. So I'm like, oh my god, no social media, 42 00:02:34,829 --> 00:02:36,789 Speaker 2: no social media. And then next minute I'm in the 43 00:02:36,869 --> 00:02:39,469 Speaker 2: shower watching tiktoks. Yeah. Shit, that's when you know things 44 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:41,669 Speaker 2: have gotten dire. But I'm not on Beyonce. Ta okay, 45 00:02:41,709 --> 00:02:48,509 Speaker 2: good good. Today's episode is all about Beyonce, Giselle Noles Carter. 46 00:02:51,789 --> 00:03:05,669 Speaker 4: Crazy holds are cut down, down, down now. 47 00:03:06,109 --> 00:03:08,069 Speaker 2: So I don't really get to gangster. 48 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:10,989 Speaker 4: But I am a businesswoman and I quiet gangster. 49 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:19,109 Speaker 2: I should say, I'm so glad we haven't done her before, 50 00:03:19,989 --> 00:03:23,429 Speaker 2: just because we can now do her with a conspiracy theory. 51 00:03:23,429 --> 00:03:27,149 Speaker 2: And that's fine. Exactly our previous canceled producer, Telissa. She's 52 00:03:27,269 --> 00:03:30,509 Speaker 2: gone off to have a baby. Yeah, while she's in 53 00:03:30,549 --> 00:03:33,749 Speaker 2: the Bee Hive, she would never have led us do 54 00:03:33,829 --> 00:03:37,229 Speaker 2: such a thing. She can't stop it. As a push present, 55 00:03:37,789 --> 00:03:41,349 Speaker 2: we're doing Beyonce to upset her, to cause her distress 56 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:44,349 Speaker 2: at one of her more vulnerable time Dedicated to Telissa. 57 00:03:44,749 --> 00:03:49,029 Speaker 2: Beyonce is an American singer, songwriter, and businesswoman. She rose 58 00:03:49,069 --> 00:03:51,229 Speaker 2: to fame in the late nineteen nineties as part of 59 00:03:51,309 --> 00:03:54,869 Speaker 2: Destiny's Child, and yeah, we know we were there. We 60 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:58,949 Speaker 2: were I remember the film clip the Nun Survivor. I'm 61 00:03:58,989 --> 00:04:07,269 Speaker 2: not going yeah anyway, they're wearing army gear. You're very Michelle, very, 62 00:04:07,309 --> 00:04:10,429 Speaker 2: You're very Michelle. No, I'm not. Who's the other one? Oh? Note, 63 00:04:10,429 --> 00:04:13,549 Speaker 2: that's Michelle. Who's the other Kelly Kelly? Okay, you're not 64 00:04:13,629 --> 00:04:15,629 Speaker 2: Kelly Michelle in order of importance that goes beyond like 65 00:04:15,709 --> 00:04:18,349 Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly. Everyone knows that. Claire. Would you like to 66 00:04:18,389 --> 00:04:21,949 Speaker 2: hear about when her singing voice was discovered? Hmmm? Was 67 00:04:21,989 --> 00:04:24,469 Speaker 2: she like too? She was in a dance class as 68 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:26,629 Speaker 2: a young girl when a dance instructor was just humming 69 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:29,029 Speaker 2: a song and Beyonce finished it off and she hit 70 00:04:29,109 --> 00:04:33,309 Speaker 2: the high note effortlessly. She won a school talent show 71 00:04:33,429 --> 00:04:37,629 Speaker 2: at seven where she sung Imagine by John Lennon. I 72 00:04:37,669 --> 00:04:40,149 Speaker 2: would have brought everyone to tears, which I too have 73 00:04:40,309 --> 00:04:44,629 Speaker 2: performed to try out for a choir when just at Skull, 74 00:04:44,949 --> 00:04:47,949 Speaker 2: not recently, not adult years, but at school, I sung 75 00:04:48,629 --> 00:04:52,309 Speaker 2: if you can't sing, don't sing that. It's not it's 76 00:04:52,389 --> 00:04:59,469 Speaker 2: not it's not good because imagine, there's no it's a 77 00:04:59,949 --> 00:05:03,589 Speaker 2: very one note. Didn't get in with that one, but 78 00:05:03,669 --> 00:05:07,189 Speaker 2: she did. Rolling Stone has named her the world's greatest 79 00:05:07,189 --> 00:05:10,069 Speaker 2: living entertainer and one of the greatest vocalists of all time. 80 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:16,149 Speaker 2: And she's simultaneously considered wildly overrated and wildly underrated, which 81 00:05:16,189 --> 00:05:18,709 Speaker 2: is what happens when you are a woman doing your job. Yeah. 82 00:05:18,829 --> 00:05:19,149 Speaker 5: Yeah. 83 00:05:19,229 --> 00:05:22,029 Speaker 2: She's married to jay Z and has Blue Ivy, who 84 00:05:22,109 --> 00:05:25,269 Speaker 2: is twelve, and twins Roomy and Sir, who are seven. 85 00:05:25,349 --> 00:05:29,829 Speaker 2: It makes me sad that I remember pregnant and I 86 00:05:29,869 --> 00:05:32,149 Speaker 2: remember her being pregnant with Blue Ivy. Oh my goodness. Yeah, 87 00:05:32,189 --> 00:05:33,949 Speaker 2: because you know how pregnancy post with Rumy and so 88 00:05:34,189 --> 00:05:36,709 Speaker 2: was the most liked image ever on Instagram up until 89 00:05:36,709 --> 00:05:38,309 Speaker 2: that moment. And that was the one where she was 90 00:05:38,349 --> 00:05:40,229 Speaker 2: sitting there and it was like the whole thing. But 91 00:05:40,229 --> 00:05:42,429 Speaker 2: the Blue Ivy one, she was on stage, she was 92 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:44,509 Speaker 2: performing and then she just got out of bump. It 93 00:05:44,549 --> 00:05:49,909 Speaker 2: was so classy. My favorite Beyonce songs personally, ah if 94 00:05:49,949 --> 00:05:54,509 Speaker 2: I were a boy, oh stn in Halo yep, irreplaceable, 95 00:05:54,909 --> 00:05:57,149 Speaker 2: in box the Left. I've been known to sing a 96 00:05:57,149 --> 00:06:00,709 Speaker 2: halo on carry karaoke. And of course I'm a big 97 00:06:00,749 --> 00:06:04,309 Speaker 2: fan of Texas Hold him Baal like the country album. 98 00:06:04,389 --> 00:06:06,789 Speaker 2: I thought it was a bit of fun. I think 99 00:06:06,829 --> 00:06:11,189 Speaker 2: that was a misstep. Okay, I don't like I've said everyone, No, 100 00:06:11,229 --> 00:06:14,989 Speaker 2: I don't like Joline. Well, Joline comes up. My structure 101 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:19,069 Speaker 2: for today is as follows. Questionable lyrics, Becky with the 102 00:06:19,109 --> 00:06:22,829 Speaker 2: good hair and Solange in a lift that's actually one subheading, 103 00:06:23,469 --> 00:06:28,749 Speaker 2: jay Z being an Awards guy, huh, and the Beyonce conspiracy. 104 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:32,989 Speaker 2: I just think that the Beyonce conspiracy is so fun. Alright, 105 00:06:33,069 --> 00:06:37,349 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward. Okay, that questionable lyrics. In twenty thirteen, 106 00:06:37,429 --> 00:06:41,029 Speaker 2: Beyonce was canceled by astronauts. Did you know this? No, 107 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:43,949 Speaker 2: I hate when you get canceled by astronauts. I didn't 108 00:06:43,949 --> 00:06:45,949 Speaker 2: think they had Wi FI a lot of the time. Oh, 109 00:06:46,069 --> 00:06:48,509 Speaker 2: like literal astronauts who were currently in space. I don't 110 00:06:48,509 --> 00:06:51,429 Speaker 2: know if they are currently in space, but they're very important. 111 00:06:51,469 --> 00:06:53,869 Speaker 2: Like for them to take issue with Beyonce would hurt. 112 00:06:54,429 --> 00:06:57,709 Speaker 2: She released this song It's called XO and I'm going 113 00:06:57,749 --> 00:07:00,829 Speaker 2: to play you the beginning my controllers. You're looking very 114 00:07:00,829 --> 00:07:01,949 Speaker 2: carefully at the situation. 115 00:07:03,789 --> 00:07:05,189 Speaker 1: Obviously a major malfunction. 116 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:08,189 Speaker 2: Did you hear those words at the beginning? A malfunction? 117 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:11,749 Speaker 2: There's been a malfunction, Claire. That is a sample from 118 00:07:11,789 --> 00:07:15,469 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty six Space Shuttle Challenger explosion, which killed 119 00:07:15,549 --> 00:07:20,029 Speaker 2: all seven crew members on board. Some media didn't understand 120 00:07:20,069 --> 00:07:24,629 Speaker 2: its relevance because XO is a love song, and astronauts 121 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:26,669 Speaker 2: as well as the loved ones of some crew members, 122 00:07:26,829 --> 00:07:30,429 Speaker 2: voiced their discomfort with the sampling. So what that beginning 123 00:07:30,549 --> 00:07:34,109 Speaker 2: says is basically what the voiceover was saying when they 124 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:36,989 Speaker 2: realized that the Challenger was going to explode. Yeah. Wow, 125 00:07:37,069 --> 00:07:40,269 Speaker 2: it's almost like it's not like this, but you know 126 00:07:40,349 --> 00:07:42,629 Speaker 2: when you go to the nine to eleven Museum in 127 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:44,829 Speaker 2: New York and you hear the phone calls, Yeah, the 128 00:07:44,869 --> 00:07:46,949 Speaker 2: people may Yeah, it's a little bit that. It's a 129 00:07:46,949 --> 00:07:49,629 Speaker 2: little I wouldn't sample them in pop music. No, And 130 00:07:49,749 --> 00:07:52,669 Speaker 2: one astronaut said to me it seemed to be totally 131 00:07:52,709 --> 00:07:56,429 Speaker 2: irrelevant and the use of it insensitive. I have to 132 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:58,869 Speaker 2: agree with the irrelevance point. I don't see how it's 133 00:07:58,909 --> 00:08:01,989 Speaker 2: relevant to a love song beyond them exactly to XO. 134 00:08:02,109 --> 00:08:04,989 Speaker 2: And Look, I've actually interviewed a few astronauts whenever I'm 135 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:06,829 Speaker 2: doing a project and they say we've got an astronaut 136 00:08:06,909 --> 00:08:10,029 Speaker 2: on oh hi, I stopped my feet. I get so excited, 137 00:08:10,549 --> 00:08:13,429 Speaker 2: I go. I have so many questions about stuff and 138 00:08:13,509 --> 00:08:16,069 Speaker 2: the universe. Imagine being like astronaut. We're looking for an 139 00:08:16,069 --> 00:08:20,709 Speaker 2: astronaut for your opinion on Beyonce. What a surprise, Like, Oh, 140 00:08:20,749 --> 00:08:24,309 Speaker 2: I've literally seen the world from above. Yeah, I know 141 00:08:24,509 --> 00:08:27,589 Speaker 2: more about space than you can possibly imagine. Yeah, yeah, 142 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:30,429 Speaker 2: but what do you think of this sampling in this song? 143 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:34,469 Speaker 2: The widow of Dick Scobie, who died in the disaster, said, 144 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:39,229 Speaker 2: the moment included in this song is an emotionally difficult one, right, 145 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:42,829 Speaker 2: So pretty universally people were like, this is jarring. Do 146 00:08:42,869 --> 00:08:45,509 Speaker 2: you think Beyonce knew what it was? What it was? Yes? 147 00:08:45,789 --> 00:08:48,189 Speaker 2: So Beyonce then comes out and she's like, hang on, 148 00:08:48,229 --> 00:08:50,989 Speaker 2: there's a reason I use this audio. She said. The 149 00:08:51,029 --> 00:08:54,349 Speaker 2: song XO was recorded with the sincerest intention to help 150 00:08:54,429 --> 00:08:56,949 Speaker 2: heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind 151 00:08:57,029 --> 00:08:59,789 Speaker 2: us that unexpected things happen. So love and appreciate every 152 00:08:59,829 --> 00:09:01,749 Speaker 2: minute that you have with those who mean the most 153 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:04,909 Speaker 2: to you. And a bunch of critics in like really 154 00:09:05,029 --> 00:09:07,629 Speaker 2: well respected magazines and papers were then like, hang on, 155 00:09:07,709 --> 00:09:10,349 Speaker 2: this song is actually about mortality and how things can 156 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:13,949 Speaker 2: suddenly go horribly wrong, and by then I think the 157 00:09:13,989 --> 00:09:17,309 Speaker 2: astronauts were in space or something like. This story is done. 158 00:09:17,709 --> 00:09:22,469 Speaker 2: We do have other removed priorities. But there was friction 159 00:09:22,589 --> 00:09:26,989 Speaker 2: between Beyonce and NASA. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean when 160 00:09:26,989 --> 00:09:29,869 Speaker 2: you're Beyonce, you get a little bit put down by 161 00:09:29,909 --> 00:09:33,469 Speaker 2: people thinking that your art is lowbrow. And perhaps what 162 00:09:33,589 --> 00:09:36,429 Speaker 2: she was trying to do there with some highbrow art. Yes, 163 00:09:36,549 --> 00:09:38,429 Speaker 2: exactly right. She was trying to make a point, she 164 00:09:38,509 --> 00:09:41,909 Speaker 2: was trying to double in history. I understand her defense. 165 00:09:42,189 --> 00:09:42,509 Speaker 4: Yeah. 166 00:09:42,589 --> 00:09:47,829 Speaker 2: Another lyric controversy Monica Lewinsky. In the same year, Beyonce 167 00:09:48,029 --> 00:09:51,429 Speaker 2: releases the song Partition, and this is one of the lyrics. 168 00:09:51,869 --> 00:09:54,589 Speaker 2: He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse. 169 00:09:54,869 --> 00:09:59,189 Speaker 2: He Monica lewinskied all on my gown, Claire, Can you 170 00:09:59,269 --> 00:10:02,149 Speaker 2: see anything wrong with this? A lyric in terms of 171 00:10:02,189 --> 00:10:05,549 Speaker 2: the choice of verb, Monica Lewinsky isn't a verb, but 172 00:10:05,669 --> 00:10:09,629 Speaker 2: it is being used as a verb. Yeah, to think 173 00:10:09,629 --> 00:10:12,109 Speaker 2: about it. Think about it? No, I know, grammatically, do 174 00:10:12,149 --> 00:10:17,309 Speaker 2: you think it works? No, because Monica Lewinsky didn't Monica Lewinsky, Yeah, exactly. 175 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:22,749 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton on Monica Lewins. Lewinsky took grammatical 176 00:10:22,869 --> 00:10:26,269 Speaker 2: issue with the lyrics because technically he clinton all over 177 00:10:26,309 --> 00:10:31,229 Speaker 2: my gown. Yeah. In twenty twenty two, Beyonce released her 178 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:35,789 Speaker 2: album Renaissance, and on the song Heated, she included a 179 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:38,749 Speaker 2: word that is considered by some to be an able slur. 180 00:10:39,029 --> 00:10:42,949 Speaker 2: I say considered by some because in other certain contexts 181 00:10:42,989 --> 00:10:47,269 Speaker 2: it actually refers to partying a bit hard right. Nevertheless, 182 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:50,389 Speaker 2: when the backlash emerged, Beyonce was like, look, I'm actually 183 00:10:50,469 --> 00:10:52,749 Speaker 2: I'm Beyonce. I might just change it. It's not what 184 00:10:52,829 --> 00:10:54,989 Speaker 2: I intended. I'm just going to change the lyric. And 185 00:10:55,029 --> 00:10:58,069 Speaker 2: I was like, go you, Beyonce. And then Lewinsky tweeted 186 00:10:58,149 --> 00:11:01,829 Speaker 2: and was like, while you're there, yeah, while you're making edits. 187 00:11:02,269 --> 00:11:04,389 Speaker 2: Why are you making edits because there's just a piece 188 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:06,029 Speaker 2: of paper just here. I'd like you to make a 189 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:10,029 Speaker 2: quick edit on. And Beyonce said, not you, not you, Monica. 190 00:11:10,149 --> 00:11:13,229 Speaker 2: I actually really like my line about Monica. Lewinsky doesn't 191 00:11:13,229 --> 00:11:16,829 Speaker 2: have the same thing, and it's a bit clunky. It's clunky. 192 00:11:17,229 --> 00:11:19,069 Speaker 2: We all knew what she meant. It doesn't have to 193 00:11:19,109 --> 00:11:21,149 Speaker 2: make sense. It's like everyone says about the song Ironic 194 00:11:21,189 --> 00:11:24,469 Speaker 2: by Alarnast Morrison. Oh none of irony. Well, it doesn't matter. 195 00:11:24,989 --> 00:11:27,469 Speaker 2: It just's vibe and it's like, well, that is what 196 00:11:27,549 --> 00:11:30,749 Speaker 2: irony is now, Yeah, you know it doesn't make sense, 197 00:11:30,989 --> 00:11:33,109 Speaker 2: like I can't define irony, but I know the lyrics 198 00:11:33,149 --> 00:11:36,549 Speaker 2: to that song. So Becky with the good hair and 199 00:11:36,589 --> 00:11:40,549 Speaker 2: Solange in a lift? Who is Becky and why it's 200 00:11:40,549 --> 00:11:42,709 Speaker 2: her hair? So I love me. I've thought a lot 201 00:11:42,709 --> 00:11:46,389 Speaker 2: about Becky with the good hair, right, and it's like, 202 00:11:46,869 --> 00:11:50,069 Speaker 2: I can picture the hair. What do you see? It's 203 00:11:50,549 --> 00:11:53,829 Speaker 2: sorry to the blondes out there, it's brown yep, could 204 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:56,949 Speaker 2: be auburn, okay, but I see it as brown. I 205 00:11:56,989 --> 00:12:01,309 Speaker 2: see it as shiny and thick. What would you say 206 00:12:01,349 --> 00:12:03,629 Speaker 2: if I said in my notes right now, I do 207 00:12:03,709 --> 00:12:05,389 Speaker 2: possess an image of who I believe to be Becky 208 00:12:05,389 --> 00:12:08,429 Speaker 2: with the good hair, as in celebrity wise, the real 209 00:12:08,469 --> 00:12:10,669 Speaker 2: Becky with the good hair. Who is it? Well, I'm 210 00:12:10,709 --> 00:12:12,989 Speaker 2: going to show you if you do, but it features 211 00:12:13,029 --> 00:12:15,269 Speaker 2: the hair, So I'm just interested in what you're saying. Okay, well, 212 00:12:15,349 --> 00:12:17,389 Speaker 2: I've got a very clear image of the hairk Okay. 213 00:12:17,669 --> 00:12:20,669 Speaker 2: It all begins in twenty fourteen at a met Gala 214 00:12:20,709 --> 00:12:24,789 Speaker 2: after party, when CCTV footage is published from inside the 215 00:12:24,829 --> 00:12:27,909 Speaker 2: elevator at a fancy hotel in New York. In it, 216 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:32,389 Speaker 2: we see Solange Knowles, Beyonce's younger sister, attacking a jay 217 00:12:32,469 --> 00:12:35,229 Speaker 2: Z in an elevator. Do you remember not attacking a 218 00:12:35,309 --> 00:12:37,949 Speaker 2: jay Z? Yes? Yes, no, I do. Yes. It was 219 00:12:37,989 --> 00:12:41,309 Speaker 2: described as clawing and kicking. Okay, it's weird that we've 220 00:12:41,389 --> 00:12:43,869 Speaker 2: kind of forgotten this culturally, have we though? 221 00:12:44,149 --> 00:12:44,549 Speaker 4: Well? 222 00:12:44,989 --> 00:12:48,309 Speaker 2: Did you recall that Beyonce was also in the lift 223 00:12:48,829 --> 00:12:51,989 Speaker 2: and Beyonce didn't do a single thing. Mm, she just watched. 224 00:12:52,109 --> 00:12:54,069 Speaker 2: I feel like he was almost so chaotic that we're like, 225 00:12:54,429 --> 00:12:57,429 Speaker 2: do not process, move on. Yeah. I didn't really lean 226 00:12:57,469 --> 00:13:00,349 Speaker 2: into this story that much. I was kind of like, 227 00:13:00,429 --> 00:13:02,669 Speaker 2: let them have their issues, Let them have their issues, 228 00:13:02,669 --> 00:13:05,229 Speaker 2: and we all know what it's about. So they ended 229 00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:08,829 Speaker 2: up releasing a statement being like Lolsorroy worked it out. 230 00:13:08,869 --> 00:13:11,509 Speaker 2: Nothing to see here, and the internet was like na 231 00:13:11,589 --> 00:13:15,229 Speaker 2: na na na na. Jay Z cheated on Beyonce, yes, 232 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:19,509 Speaker 2: and I was we simply must know more details because 233 00:13:19,549 --> 00:13:22,349 Speaker 2: we are invested now. Ever since we saw them fighting 234 00:13:22,429 --> 00:13:26,229 Speaker 2: inside the elevator that we caught together, we're all in 235 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:30,469 Speaker 2: elevated together. Were you caused a ruckus. We're gonna need 236 00:13:30,509 --> 00:13:34,309 Speaker 2: to know underlying cause of the ruckus. It's also, in hindsight, 237 00:13:35,189 --> 00:13:40,189 Speaker 2: quite relatable in that if your husband cheated on you, 238 00:13:40,189 --> 00:13:44,389 Speaker 2: you might be broken. I'm ready to hit you, are ready, 239 00:13:44,429 --> 00:13:47,309 Speaker 2: I'm ready to attack and or claw. I can do 240 00:13:47,349 --> 00:13:49,909 Speaker 2: that for you situations. I've thought about cloring your husband. 241 00:13:50,469 --> 00:13:54,869 Speaker 2: He hasn't even cheated, He's just annoyed me. And elevators 242 00:13:54,869 --> 00:13:58,349 Speaker 2: are You're trapped? You trapped? A security guard pulled her off. 243 00:13:59,309 --> 00:14:02,109 Speaker 2: There were lots of divorce rumors, but nothing was confirmed. 244 00:14:02,189 --> 00:14:06,189 Speaker 2: Then in twenty sixteen, Beyonce releases the album Laminade. It 245 00:14:06,269 --> 00:14:09,829 Speaker 2: tells the emotional journey that she experienced after the infidelity 246 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:12,269 Speaker 2: of her husband with Becky with the Good Jay z 247 00:14:12,589 --> 00:14:17,349 Speaker 2: aka Sean Cory Carter. On the track Sorry, she says 248 00:14:17,869 --> 00:14:22,709 Speaker 2: death to side chicks, and she sings, he only want. 249 00:14:22,589 --> 00:14:23,389 Speaker 4: Me when I'm not. 250 00:14:24,869 --> 00:14:32,229 Speaker 5: You better call beg you with the cool hair. You 251 00:14:32,429 --> 00:14:34,989 Speaker 5: better call beck you with the good hair. 252 00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:39,589 Speaker 2: As a result of my thorough investigating, I have deduced 253 00:14:40,029 --> 00:14:42,389 Speaker 2: that Becky with the Good Hair was a side chick 254 00:14:42,469 --> 00:14:45,669 Speaker 2: and Beyonce, they did not like it. Okay, people think 255 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:48,789 Speaker 2: Becky in this context is a white woman, and good 256 00:14:48,829 --> 00:14:51,989 Speaker 2: hair can refer to long, straight hair and black communities. 257 00:14:52,269 --> 00:14:55,269 Speaker 2: There were rumors that Becky was reader Aura, but she 258 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:59,789 Speaker 2: promptly shut those rumors down. But then fans stumbled upon 259 00:14:59,949 --> 00:15:03,029 Speaker 2: designer Rachel Roy, who has had a lot of business 260 00:15:03,029 --> 00:15:06,549 Speaker 2: dealings with jay Z. The name Rachel is giving Becky. 261 00:15:06,989 --> 00:15:10,029 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Rachel and Becky name 262 00:15:10,349 --> 00:15:12,709 Speaker 2: which exist in the same universe, to me, absolutely have 263 00:15:12,789 --> 00:15:16,589 Speaker 2: exactly the same energy. Yep yep. Around the time of 264 00:15:16,589 --> 00:15:20,469 Speaker 2: the Lemonade release date, this, Rachel Roy posted something on Instagram. 265 00:15:20,749 --> 00:15:24,069 Speaker 2: She posted good hair, don't care, but we will take 266 00:15:24,149 --> 00:15:27,789 Speaker 2: good lighting for selfies or self truths. Always live in 267 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:33,149 Speaker 2: the light hashtag no drama queens. So like, did you 268 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:35,829 Speaker 2: have sex with jay Z once? Or like three times? Yeah? 269 00:15:35,989 --> 00:15:39,029 Speaker 2: The post has since been deleted because the Beehive aka 270 00:15:39,149 --> 00:15:45,229 Speaker 2: our former producer Toelyssa swarmed and predictably got a little intense. Also, 271 00:15:45,669 --> 00:15:48,709 Speaker 2: right before the lift incident, apparently at the met gala, 272 00:15:49,029 --> 00:15:52,789 Speaker 2: Solange yelled at Rachel Oh was Rachel there? She was 273 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:56,509 Speaker 2: there because she's a designer. Okay, Claire, I present to you, 274 00:15:56,829 --> 00:16:00,109 Speaker 2: Rachel Roy. Tell me what you notice about her. She 275 00:16:00,149 --> 00:16:03,429 Speaker 2: has good hair. Okay, so what I noticed? Yeah, that's 276 00:16:03,469 --> 00:16:08,629 Speaker 2: the hair I pictured. It is thick, yeah, shine, beautiful color, 277 00:16:08,749 --> 00:16:11,829 Speaker 2: a dark hair, beautifully. Yeah. You look at her and 278 00:16:11,869 --> 00:16:14,869 Speaker 2: say she has great hair, you would, you would. She's gorgeous. 279 00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:17,989 Speaker 2: She has lovely hair. Beyonce also has lovely hair while 280 00:16:17,989 --> 00:16:20,629 Speaker 2: we're here, it's lunge lovely hair. But I think this 281 00:16:20,709 --> 00:16:21,869 Speaker 2: is Becky with the good hair. Yeah. 282 00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:22,229 Speaker 5: Yeah. 283 00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:25,749 Speaker 2: In the years since, jay Z has admitted to cheating 284 00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:28,989 Speaker 2: on Beyonce in his music but also in interviews. Then 285 00:16:29,069 --> 00:16:32,949 Speaker 2: this year, Beyonce releases Cowboy Carter and she's like, you 286 00:16:33,029 --> 00:16:36,629 Speaker 2: know what, I still fucking hate Becky. Yeah. I like 287 00:16:36,709 --> 00:16:40,029 Speaker 2: that They've created so much content out of an affair. Yeah, 288 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:41,789 Speaker 2: that's what people need to do. If if you get 289 00:16:41,869 --> 00:16:45,789 Speaker 2: cheated on, you cry, your sister does an attack, and 290 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:50,749 Speaker 2: then you create content that you can monetize. So she 291 00:16:50,869 --> 00:16:54,109 Speaker 2: does a remake of Joline where Dolly Puton opens the 292 00:16:54,189 --> 00:16:55,909 Speaker 2: song with hey. 293 00:16:55,789 --> 00:16:57,469 Speaker 4: Miss Honeybee, it's darly. 294 00:16:57,549 --> 00:17:00,629 Speaker 2: B you know about Horsey with the good hair you 295 00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:03,829 Speaker 2: sing about reminded me of someone on you back Win, 296 00:17:04,229 --> 00:17:06,949 Speaker 2: except she has flame and LOKs of auburn hair. 297 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:10,949 Speaker 1: Bless your heart, just a hair of a different colors, 298 00:17:11,149 --> 00:17:11,669 Speaker 1: just the scene. 299 00:17:13,069 --> 00:17:16,549 Speaker 2: Beyonce tweeked the lyrics to basically be like, bitch, stand back, 300 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,749 Speaker 2: leave jay Z alone, or I will talk about your 301 00:17:18,749 --> 00:17:24,109 Speaker 2: hair again. Firstly, imagine being this widely known for having 302 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:27,549 Speaker 2: great hair. If I were her, I would identify myself. 303 00:17:27,549 --> 00:17:30,349 Speaker 2: I would make a hair CareLine. It's actually called with 304 00:17:30,429 --> 00:17:34,149 Speaker 2: good hair. It's quite passive aggressive, or it's like quite 305 00:17:34,229 --> 00:17:38,149 Speaker 2: like a compliment in disguise. The Beyonce's like, I hate 306 00:17:38,189 --> 00:17:40,909 Speaker 2: you beyond hair, but I'm not gonna say you don't 307 00:17:40,909 --> 00:17:43,149 Speaker 2: have good hair because you do. It would sound mean 308 00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:45,389 Speaker 2: if she called o Becky with the bad hair, yeah, yeah, heady, 309 00:17:46,349 --> 00:17:49,269 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be queen behavior. But to call o'becky with 310 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:52,269 Speaker 2: the good hair, it's like, you have good hair, You're 311 00:17:52,309 --> 00:17:59,869 Speaker 2: still ah that. Secondly, the reason Beyonce has copped it 312 00:17:59,909 --> 00:18:03,389 Speaker 2: is because meanwhile her and jay Z are making albums together, 313 00:18:03,389 --> 00:18:06,749 Speaker 2: they're raising their kids, They've repaired their relationship. But when 314 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:09,029 Speaker 2: she brought it back for Joline and was still like 315 00:18:09,109 --> 00:18:12,589 Speaker 2: fuck Becky, the criticism was like, Becky, isn't your husband? 316 00:18:12,949 --> 00:18:15,509 Speaker 2: Why we're still talking about Becky? Why are we still 317 00:18:15,589 --> 00:18:18,029 Speaker 2: dragging her. Why are we fighting over a man? Do 318 00:18:18,109 --> 00:18:20,629 Speaker 2: you have any comments about jay Z's hair? Because I 319 00:18:20,629 --> 00:18:23,029 Speaker 2: cannot picture j Z's hair. I don't know if he 320 00:18:23,069 --> 00:18:27,789 Speaker 2: has hair. Yeah, yeah, with not as a culture dissected 321 00:18:27,829 --> 00:18:30,349 Speaker 2: his hair enough. No, I mean the man's profited off 322 00:18:30,349 --> 00:18:33,069 Speaker 2: his own affair. I read that he'd written all these 323 00:18:33,069 --> 00:18:34,509 Speaker 2: songs about it. I was like, I don't want to 324 00:18:34,509 --> 00:18:36,509 Speaker 2: know what jay Z has to say about Becky as 325 00:18:36,509 --> 00:18:40,229 Speaker 2: a family, they've done well off of this affair. I 326 00:18:40,269 --> 00:18:45,829 Speaker 2: would say, tick, hello, lazy girls, we have some exciting news, 327 00:18:45,869 --> 00:18:48,669 Speaker 2: and don't switch off, because for some lazy girls, this 328 00:18:48,749 --> 00:18:51,869 Speaker 2: is a confronting message. Next month, we are kicking off 329 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:54,629 Speaker 2: the month of Move, and a lot of lazy girls 330 00:18:54,629 --> 00:18:56,269 Speaker 2: are going way you're telling me about this? Why are 331 00:18:56,269 --> 00:19:00,069 Speaker 2: you telling me to move? That's not lazy. But starting 332 00:19:00,149 --> 00:19:04,429 Speaker 2: November first, the Move team will drop daily workout recommendations 333 00:19:04,509 --> 00:19:08,069 Speaker 2: to keep you company all month long. The Month of 334 00:19:08,229 --> 00:19:11,269 Speaker 2: Move is designed to take the mental load out of 335 00:19:11,309 --> 00:19:13,989 Speaker 2: movement because all lazy girls know that it is one 336 00:19:13,989 --> 00:19:15,709 Speaker 2: thing to move, it's another thing to choose what you're 337 00:19:15,709 --> 00:19:17,189 Speaker 2: going to do. I'll go onto my app well and 338 00:19:17,269 --> 00:19:19,589 Speaker 2: I'm meant to be doing pilates. Am I meant to 339 00:19:19,629 --> 00:19:20,709 Speaker 2: be doing yoga? 340 00:19:20,909 --> 00:19:21,109 Speaker 5: Hit? 341 00:19:21,549 --> 00:19:23,869 Speaker 2: What am I doing over here with a retro dance? Well, 342 00:19:23,949 --> 00:19:26,309 Speaker 2: don't worry. The Move app is going to tell you, 343 00:19:26,349 --> 00:19:29,069 Speaker 2: and they are not a lot of them, not very long, quick, 344 00:19:29,069 --> 00:19:31,869 Speaker 2: little snack sized workouts that you can do everywhere with 345 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:34,589 Speaker 2: absolutely no equipment. Want to join the Month of Move? 346 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:37,829 Speaker 2: Get thirty dollars off a yearly Mummi a subscription which 347 00:19:37,869 --> 00:19:41,109 Speaker 2: gets you unlimited access to Move with the code Month 348 00:19:41,549 --> 00:19:45,869 Speaker 2: of Canceled. The offer is valid till the end of November. 349 00:19:46,149 --> 00:19:48,629 Speaker 2: You can find all the details in the show notes. 350 00:19:48,869 --> 00:20:00,429 Speaker 3: Enjoy. 351 00:20:03,549 --> 00:20:05,309 Speaker 2: Jay Z is an awards guy and I get it 352 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:08,549 Speaker 2: because I'm also an awards guy. You're an awards guy. 353 00:20:09,069 --> 00:20:13,749 Speaker 2: Sometimes we need external validation. Arrest us. We're nominated in 354 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:16,029 Speaker 2: the Australian Podcast Awards. We are We're not going to 355 00:20:16,109 --> 00:20:18,589 Speaker 2: win in the comedy category. We will not win. But 356 00:20:18,869 --> 00:20:21,309 Speaker 2: if we win, where awards going? And if we don't 357 00:20:21,589 --> 00:20:26,149 Speaker 2: we storm? Yeah? No, we should storm, Yeah, we should storm. 358 00:20:26,189 --> 00:20:28,349 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, I'm gonna let you finish. But 359 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:32,909 Speaker 2: Canceled was the best podcast of all time? Yes, yes, yes. 360 00:20:32,669 --> 00:20:33,149 Speaker 1: Yes, yes yes. 361 00:20:34,709 --> 00:20:37,989 Speaker 2: In being an awards guy, though he has really dragged 362 00:20:37,989 --> 00:20:41,949 Speaker 2: Beyonce into it. At the twenty twenty four Grammys in February, 363 00:20:42,269 --> 00:20:44,629 Speaker 2: Beyonce was nominated for Album of the Year and she 364 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:48,869 Speaker 2: lost to Taylor Swift for Midnights. While jay Z was 365 00:20:48,909 --> 00:20:51,829 Speaker 2: accepting the Doctor Dre Global Impact Award, he called out 366 00:20:51,829 --> 00:20:54,549 Speaker 2: the ceremony. He started by talking about the history of 367 00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:56,989 Speaker 2: black artists at the Grammys, and then he said. 368 00:20:56,829 --> 00:20:58,469 Speaker 1: We want you to get it right, at least get 369 00:20:58,469 --> 00:21:01,749 Speaker 1: it close to right. And obviously it's subjective. You don't 370 00:21:01,749 --> 00:21:06,869 Speaker 1: got to clap at everything. Obviously obviously is subjective because 371 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:09,749 Speaker 1: you know, as music and his opinion bass. 372 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,749 Speaker 2: He looks at Beyonce, Oh no, and he says. 373 00:21:12,629 --> 00:21:14,389 Speaker 1: I don't want to embarrass this young lady, but she 374 00:21:14,429 --> 00:21:16,669 Speaker 1: has more Grammys than everyone and never one album of 375 00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:20,509 Speaker 1: a year. So even by your own metrics, that doesn't work. 376 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:24,469 Speaker 1: Think about that, the most Grammys, never one album of 377 00:21:24,509 --> 00:21:25,669 Speaker 1: the year. That doesn't work. 378 00:21:26,029 --> 00:21:28,549 Speaker 2: I can't overstate how pissed off jay Z is that 379 00:21:28,589 --> 00:21:30,949 Speaker 2: Beyonce has never one album and it keeps them out 380 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:34,589 Speaker 2: up at night. Okay, so this is the thing, this 381 00:21:34,629 --> 00:21:36,749 Speaker 2: is the hole in the argument. You've won more Grammys 382 00:21:36,749 --> 00:21:43,229 Speaker 2: than anybody else, and yet you haven't won enough, so 383 00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:46,309 Speaker 2: you go more Grammy, Grammy, and it's not fair. But 384 00:21:46,349 --> 00:21:48,669 Speaker 2: it's not fair that you haven't won more. Yeah, you've 385 00:21:48,709 --> 00:21:51,189 Speaker 2: won more Grammys than anyone else. We haven't won that Grammy. Therefore, 386 00:21:51,229 --> 00:21:53,709 Speaker 2: the Grammy discriminates against Beyonce, who's one of the most 387 00:21:53,709 --> 00:21:57,389 Speaker 2: Grammys out of everyone you know, who has been nominated 388 00:21:57,389 --> 00:22:01,949 Speaker 2: for the most Grammys. Who jay Z, the man fucking 389 00:22:01,989 --> 00:22:05,189 Speaker 2: loves the Grammy. He really really care. You just know, 390 00:22:05,709 --> 00:22:08,829 Speaker 2: they get really excited. They get really excited. I reckon 391 00:22:08,829 --> 00:22:10,749 Speaker 2: they drink too much in the first time minutes because 392 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:13,149 Speaker 2: they just they were looking forward to it. Hey, they do. 393 00:22:13,629 --> 00:22:15,589 Speaker 2: They really look forward to it. They do a lot 394 00:22:15,589 --> 00:22:18,629 Speaker 2: of strategy, a lot of planning, a lot of imagine 395 00:22:19,069 --> 00:22:21,989 Speaker 2: to be a fly on the wall. You are jay 396 00:22:22,069 --> 00:22:24,669 Speaker 2: Z and Beyonce, and Beyonce has lost album over the year. 397 00:22:24,709 --> 00:22:27,909 Speaker 2: Again you go home, bottle of red. What is said 398 00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:33,189 Speaker 2: over that table? I would that storning and invite Solange? 399 00:22:33,349 --> 00:22:35,509 Speaker 2: She had something, Yeah, that is these you want me 400 00:22:35,549 --> 00:22:40,309 Speaker 2: to hit Solange, not hitting. We're just bitching. We're just bitching. 401 00:22:40,629 --> 00:22:43,549 Speaker 2: Let's bitch about every artist in that because you know, 402 00:22:44,429 --> 00:22:48,069 Speaker 2: we're bitching about Taylor, We're bitching about Harry's house, We're 403 00:22:48,109 --> 00:22:51,189 Speaker 2: bitching about that Adele. Yeah, but most of all we're 404 00:22:51,229 --> 00:22:54,269 Speaker 2: bitching about Beck. Let me tell you about Beck. Okay. 405 00:22:54,669 --> 00:22:56,989 Speaker 2: In an interview in twenty twenty three, jay Z was like, 406 00:22:57,069 --> 00:23:00,229 Speaker 2: it wasn't just about her losing for the album Lemonade. 407 00:23:00,269 --> 00:23:03,149 Speaker 2: She lost to Adele, but he said, but also when 408 00:23:03,429 --> 00:23:07,309 Speaker 2: beck won over her, I was like, oh, you'll missed it. 409 00:23:07,589 --> 00:23:09,549 Speaker 2: I think it was also Kanye who got really pissed 410 00:23:09,549 --> 00:23:13,389 Speaker 2: off that Beck. That would have been a lot. I 411 00:23:13,389 --> 00:23:15,709 Speaker 2: think that was like twenty sixteen, yeah, something like that, 412 00:23:15,749 --> 00:23:18,709 Speaker 2: maybe twenty fourteen. Yeah, there's a bit I have to say, 413 00:23:18,709 --> 00:23:21,829 Speaker 2: what did becken for? I remember him having this song 414 00:23:21,869 --> 00:23:25,269 Speaker 2: that was good. Yeah, but is an album of the year. Yeah, 415 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:27,789 Speaker 2: it's hard, it's not objective. Jay Z said to himself, 416 00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:30,509 Speaker 2: there's a bit of tension over Beyonce and Grammys because, 417 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:32,389 Speaker 2: as you were saying, she's won more Grammys than anyone 418 00:23:32,389 --> 00:23:35,349 Speaker 2: else in history, So is she being snupped? But the 419 00:23:35,429 --> 00:23:37,709 Speaker 2: last time a black woman one Album of the Year 420 00:23:37,789 --> 00:23:40,389 Speaker 2: was twenty five years ago, so that plays into a 421 00:23:40,429 --> 00:23:44,029 Speaker 2: lot of this frustration. But it's unclear if this bothers 422 00:23:44,069 --> 00:23:47,269 Speaker 2: Beyonce as much as it bothers Jay z Or Is 423 00:23:47,349 --> 00:23:50,989 Speaker 2: Beyonce in his ear? Is she the squeaky will? Okay? 424 00:23:51,469 --> 00:23:55,469 Speaker 2: Is she that person who just looks very gracious and 425 00:23:55,509 --> 00:23:59,549 Speaker 2: came from has a great losing face. She's so humble, 426 00:24:00,029 --> 00:24:02,909 Speaker 2: she has it's incredible humility. When she's on stage winning something, 427 00:24:02,949 --> 00:24:06,029 Speaker 2: She's lovely, but then low key she's like, this is bullshit. 428 00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:09,909 Speaker 2: Because maybecause I'm this bullshit. Yeah, because she's bitching so much. 429 00:24:10,189 --> 00:24:14,149 Speaker 2: That's why Kanne got up. She's winding every well behind 430 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:17,709 Speaker 2: the scenes, correct and she's going, it's a conspiracy. They're 431 00:24:17,709 --> 00:24:20,509 Speaker 2: not giving me another Grammy. The men around her are 432 00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:24,549 Speaker 2: getting wound as we saw. You'll remember in the two 433 00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:27,269 Speaker 2: thousand and nine VMAs when Taylor Swift won in the 434 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:32,989 Speaker 2: Best Female Video category over Beyonce's single Ladies. I Love 435 00:24:33,069 --> 00:24:36,509 Speaker 2: How now history sees it as there were only two nominees, yeh, 436 00:24:36,629 --> 00:24:39,789 Speaker 2: Beyonce and Taylor. I looked up who else was in 437 00:24:39,829 --> 00:24:42,869 Speaker 2: the running, and I bet you that Kelly Clarkson was 438 00:24:42,909 --> 00:24:45,589 Speaker 2: sitting there being like, my life would suck without you. 439 00:24:45,749 --> 00:24:48,029 Speaker 2: Was also a great video, and perhaps the greatest of 440 00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:52,349 Speaker 2: all time. Would anyone like to defend anyone. When Kanye 441 00:24:52,349 --> 00:24:54,389 Speaker 2: went up, she was like, there he goes, there he 442 00:24:54,429 --> 00:24:57,229 Speaker 2: goes defending me again. My life would suck without you 443 00:24:57,789 --> 00:25:01,189 Speaker 2: made history. Can't remember that video for the life of me, 444 00:25:01,229 --> 00:25:03,509 Speaker 2: but great song. Pink was also there. I think Lady 445 00:25:03,509 --> 00:25:06,269 Speaker 2: Gaga was also there. Anyway, Taylor one, Kanye gets on 446 00:25:06,269 --> 00:25:08,269 Speaker 2: stage and says, Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you. 447 00:25:08,269 --> 00:25:10,349 Speaker 2: I'm let you finish one. 448 00:25:10,269 --> 00:25:11,869 Speaker 4: Of her best videos of all time. 449 00:25:13,229 --> 00:25:15,429 Speaker 2: The Council one of the best podcasts of all time, 450 00:25:15,629 --> 00:25:18,749 Speaker 2: one of the best podcasts of all time, repeated Did 451 00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:21,589 Speaker 2: you know after that that Pink got in Kanye's face 452 00:25:21,709 --> 00:25:24,949 Speaker 2: and apparently they exchanged some heated words. Oh, the cameras 453 00:25:24,949 --> 00:25:28,829 Speaker 2: were turned on. Oh then I missed this. As if 454 00:25:28,869 --> 00:25:32,029 Speaker 2: I didn't already have enough respect for Beyonce, She called 455 00:25:32,069 --> 00:25:35,909 Speaker 2: Taylor back on stage after Beyonce won an award that night. 456 00:25:35,949 --> 00:25:36,509 Speaker 2: So what happened? 457 00:25:36,589 --> 00:25:36,709 Speaker 4: Oh? 458 00:25:36,749 --> 00:25:38,829 Speaker 2: I did know this, I did this. Insider said that 459 00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:41,949 Speaker 2: he's backstage, Taylor is crying and her mother is crying 460 00:25:41,989 --> 00:25:44,389 Speaker 2: because they're so upset by what has happened, and Taylor 461 00:25:44,949 --> 00:25:47,069 Speaker 2: needs to go and perform. She still had her performance 462 00:25:47,069 --> 00:25:49,669 Speaker 2: ahead of her Beyonce was backstage with her dad and 463 00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:52,429 Speaker 2: Beyonce's in tears and he's like, what are we going 464 00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:55,269 Speaker 2: to do? And he's never done this before. This insider 465 00:25:55,389 --> 00:26:00,949 Speaker 2: loved Kanye. Kanye fucked it. Sorry, sorry, I do not 466 00:26:01,069 --> 00:26:05,429 Speaker 2: love Kanye, but Kanye in that moment is very a 467 00:26:05,549 --> 00:26:08,269 Speaker 2: six year old boy hitting everyone with six and then 468 00:26:08,269 --> 00:26:11,149 Speaker 2: disappearing and everybody's hurt. Yeah, and he doesn't know why 469 00:26:11,149 --> 00:26:14,309 Speaker 2: he has no friends, and it's like, you've upset everyone 470 00:26:14,629 --> 00:26:17,389 Speaker 2: because you keep hitting people. You've sown the seeds of chaos. 471 00:26:18,029 --> 00:26:19,829 Speaker 2: And now what they have to do is do something 472 00:26:19,829 --> 00:26:23,029 Speaker 2: totally unprecedented, which is at the insider said to Beyonce, 473 00:26:23,189 --> 00:26:25,789 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real. You're gonna win an award tonight. 474 00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:28,789 Speaker 2: You're gonna be up on stage later. Yeah, you're gonna 475 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:31,749 Speaker 2: be up on stage later. Here's my idea. You say 476 00:26:31,749 --> 00:26:36,709 Speaker 2: to Taylor, have your moment. So beyoncey came out and 477 00:26:36,749 --> 00:26:38,549 Speaker 2: she was like, I remember when I was seventeen, I 478 00:26:38,589 --> 00:26:40,709 Speaker 2: won my first Grammy. It was so special to me, 479 00:26:40,989 --> 00:26:43,149 Speaker 2: So I'd like for Taylor to come out and have 480 00:26:43,429 --> 00:26:46,669 Speaker 2: her moment. And Taylor came out and she accepted the 481 00:26:46,669 --> 00:26:49,709 Speaker 2: awarder I was beautiful, and I bet seing that Clay 482 00:26:51,629 --> 00:26:54,349 Speaker 2: you created. This is lovely. This is lovely, honey. This 483 00:26:54,429 --> 00:26:58,509 Speaker 2: only is happening because of you, and everyone's mad except 484 00:26:58,509 --> 00:27:01,989 Speaker 2: for Kelly because she also thinks that award was rigged. 485 00:27:05,549 --> 00:27:09,189 Speaker 2: This brings us to the world's most hectic conspiracy theory. 486 00:27:09,869 --> 00:27:15,149 Speaker 2: She knows, she knows, She knows. I'm gonna have that 487 00:27:15,189 --> 00:27:18,109 Speaker 2: stuck in my head? Are you listening? Can you hear 488 00:27:18,869 --> 00:27:22,789 Speaker 2: what I am saying? She knows, she knows. Just say 489 00:27:22,829 --> 00:27:27,949 Speaker 2: it again. She knows about It's more than that. It's 490 00:27:28,029 --> 00:27:35,789 Speaker 2: more than that. It's more than that. She no, Why okay? 491 00:27:36,029 --> 00:27:39,789 Speaker 2: I can't You're okay. So there's another theory as to 492 00:27:39,829 --> 00:27:43,229 Speaker 2: why Kanye interrupted Taylor at the VMA's and that said 493 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:47,389 Speaker 2: he wanted to protect her, which, knowing Kanye, doubt it 494 00:27:47,469 --> 00:27:50,229 Speaker 2: checks out. Did you want to protect Kelly? No, I 495 00:27:50,229 --> 00:27:53,709 Speaker 2: shouldn't win because Taylor didn't know yet that you had 496 00:27:53,749 --> 00:27:56,589 Speaker 2: to thank Beyonce? Why do you have to thank Beyonce? 497 00:27:57,029 --> 00:28:01,109 Speaker 2: Allow me to explain. She knows, she knows. I'm just 498 00:28:01,109 --> 00:28:03,269 Speaker 2: gonna throw that in. Can you hear it? Not yet? 499 00:28:03,429 --> 00:28:03,549 Speaker 1: Yes. 500 00:28:04,269 --> 00:28:07,789 Speaker 2: P Diddy has been charged with sex trafficking racketeering and 501 00:28:07,829 --> 00:28:13,989 Speaker 2: transportation to engage in prostitution. You're following, so far, bad bad, bad, 502 00:28:14,029 --> 00:28:16,229 Speaker 2: bad bad man. You might have heard about his Freak 503 00:28:16,229 --> 00:28:20,389 Speaker 2: Cough parties, which appear to have involved minors and criminal activities. 504 00:28:20,869 --> 00:28:23,669 Speaker 2: At those parties, along with literally the rest of Hollywood, 505 00:28:23,949 --> 00:28:27,429 Speaker 2: was Beyonce and jay Z, And there are allegations I 506 00:28:27,469 --> 00:28:30,149 Speaker 2: don't know where they're from, that some of these parties 507 00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:34,109 Speaker 2: were sacrificial. I don't think the Internet knows what sacrificial means. 508 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:38,389 Speaker 2: They just keep going their sacrificial Beyonce is sacrificial. Yeah, 509 00:28:38,429 --> 00:28:42,069 Speaker 2: that's lacking context in detail. We simply do not have 510 00:28:42,109 --> 00:28:44,069 Speaker 2: time for that. But just what we do on TikTok 511 00:28:44,189 --> 00:28:46,989 Speaker 2: is we grab onto words. Okay, so I hold them all. 512 00:28:47,349 --> 00:28:51,509 Speaker 2: She knows, we've got sacrificial. We've got she knows, and 513 00:28:51,549 --> 00:28:58,789 Speaker 2: we've got Kanye ally to protect Taylor from sacrificial Beyonce. Okay, 514 00:28:58,869 --> 00:29:03,909 Speaker 2: we're following. Yeah, you just wait because jay Z's birthday 515 00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:09,109 Speaker 2: is December four? Did his birthday is November four? And 516 00:29:09,229 --> 00:29:13,149 Speaker 2: Beyonce's birth day is September four? And jay Z has 517 00:29:13,189 --> 00:29:17,189 Speaker 2: an album called four four four? So what does that 518 00:29:17,229 --> 00:29:17,629 Speaker 2: tell you? 519 00:29:18,229 --> 00:29:18,669 Speaker 4: I don't know. 520 00:29:19,469 --> 00:29:23,349 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know. Something I love 521 00:29:23,389 --> 00:29:26,549 Speaker 2: about Internet conspiracy theories is that it's just a bunch 522 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:28,629 Speaker 2: of hand pick numbers. For example, the years that they 523 00:29:28,629 --> 00:29:30,829 Speaker 2: were born doesn't matter, no, just that it was all 524 00:29:30,869 --> 00:29:33,589 Speaker 2: four and that jay Z had the album for football, 525 00:29:33,789 --> 00:29:38,189 Speaker 2: And like you could create conspiracies out of anything, out 526 00:29:38,189 --> 00:29:41,229 Speaker 2: of like hand movements numbers. You've got to confidently list 527 00:29:41,309 --> 00:29:44,389 Speaker 2: things and then you have to yell yeah see and 528 00:29:44,429 --> 00:29:47,709 Speaker 2: circle things in pictures yep. And it's like bay see 529 00:29:47,709 --> 00:29:52,229 Speaker 2: what okay? Four? Four four could mean so many different things. Also, 530 00:29:52,269 --> 00:29:54,269 Speaker 2: it's like here's a thing, here's a thing. Maybe it's 531 00:29:54,269 --> 00:29:56,029 Speaker 2: like Beyonce jay z it. Maybe one of their children 532 00:29:56,069 --> 00:29:57,909 Speaker 2: are born on the fourth, you know what I mean? 533 00:29:58,029 --> 00:30:01,949 Speaker 2: And maybe that and then I'm seeing Beyonce slashing the 534 00:30:01,989 --> 00:30:04,949 Speaker 2: throat of a lamb, is what I'm saying. Okay, all right, 535 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:08,189 Speaker 2: that's not all Because Claire, I present to you this 536 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:11,549 Speaker 2: J Cole classic. Okay, I need I need to I 537 00:30:11,709 --> 00:30:14,269 Speaker 2: just this is where it's the payoff is going to 538 00:30:14,309 --> 00:30:18,109 Speaker 2: be really exciting for you. She knows, okay, she knows, 539 00:30:18,109 --> 00:30:20,269 Speaker 2: but I'm just playing like a little bit before she knows. 540 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:24,469 Speaker 5: She knows, she knows, and that. 541 00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:31,589 Speaker 4: And that she knows, she knows. 542 00:30:32,269 --> 00:30:38,589 Speaker 1: Resahs left Michael jess Chess. 543 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:43,349 Speaker 2: Did you hear rest in peace A leah? What? No? 544 00:30:43,429 --> 00:30:46,509 Speaker 2: I didn't rest in peace? Left eye? No? And then 545 00:30:46,829 --> 00:30:49,829 Speaker 2: something about Michael Jackson. No, I didn't hear that. Okay, 546 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:52,789 Speaker 2: I heard some beats and I heard she knows. All right, 547 00:30:53,349 --> 00:30:58,069 Speaker 2: So it referred to those three deaths. Aliyah died on 548 00:30:58,109 --> 00:31:03,949 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth left eye. I don't know. I'm sure 549 00:31:04,669 --> 00:31:09,949 Speaker 2: why after only one of their eyes. It's really tragic 550 00:31:09,949 --> 00:31:11,709 Speaker 2: that they died. I just don't know who they are. 551 00:31:12,509 --> 00:31:15,109 Speaker 2: They also died on the twenty fifth. I haven't verified that. 552 00:31:15,149 --> 00:31:19,189 Speaker 2: I'm just going off TikTok and Michael Jackson. You guessed it. 553 00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:21,469 Speaker 2: You have to say that on TikTok. What date did 554 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:24,629 Speaker 2: he die? Twenty fifth? Yeah, so I can't that. Here's 555 00:31:24,629 --> 00:31:27,309 Speaker 2: the thing, this is the phenomenon that people talk about, 556 00:31:27,709 --> 00:31:31,469 Speaker 2: which is the probability wise Okay, so it's like twenty fourth, 557 00:31:31,629 --> 00:31:34,629 Speaker 2: twenty first, twenty fourth, all that stuff. It's like, Okay, 558 00:31:34,629 --> 00:31:38,669 Speaker 2: there are only thirty to thirty one days, so there 559 00:31:38,749 --> 00:31:41,309 Speaker 2: is a one in thirty chance that if you died, 560 00:31:41,349 --> 00:31:43,669 Speaker 2: you're gonna die on that date, and it's like the 561 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:46,589 Speaker 2: phenomenon everyone talks about where if you were in a 562 00:31:46,709 --> 00:31:48,789 Speaker 2: hall with a munch people and it's like find someone 563 00:31:48,829 --> 00:31:51,069 Speaker 2: who shares your birthday, there'd be quite a few people 564 00:31:51,149 --> 00:31:54,469 Speaker 2: like you would find someone consenses. Okay, you can try 565 00:31:54,509 --> 00:31:57,629 Speaker 2: and explain, they're just wait because you know how she 566 00:31:57,709 --> 00:32:05,109 Speaker 2: knows how you know she knows? Okay, she knows. She 567 00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:10,509 Speaker 2: sounds like Sean whish is the name of jay Z? 568 00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:13,589 Speaker 2: And did he jay Z? Is Sean? I have to 569 00:32:13,629 --> 00:32:16,029 Speaker 2: say I didn't know jay Z's first name was Sean 570 00:32:16,109 --> 00:32:18,789 Speaker 2: until you said it? Okay? And P Diddy is Sean? 571 00:32:18,989 --> 00:32:22,309 Speaker 2: Is Sean? Comes? Yes and like spelt different? But Sean? 572 00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:29,029 Speaker 2: And Beyonce's last name is Knowles mm hmmm, because no, 573 00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:35,629 Speaker 2: she is it? She knows? Or is it Sean? What 574 00:32:37,229 --> 00:32:41,749 Speaker 2: doesn't it make sense? Doesn't even. 575 00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:43,709 Speaker 5: Is it. 576 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:50,149 Speaker 2: Sure? Even if it was, what would that mean? Okay, 577 00:32:50,229 --> 00:32:59,309 Speaker 2: it would mean both? Okay, both Sean are following you 578 00:32:59,389 --> 00:33:05,109 Speaker 2: plus Knolls, You're all four because jay Z had the 579 00:33:05,189 --> 00:33:09,949 Speaker 2: album full for four. Not only does she know but Sean. 580 00:33:12,309 --> 00:33:17,989 Speaker 2: It still doesn't make crying because I'm so moved by it. 581 00:33:17,989 --> 00:33:22,349 Speaker 2: It doesn't make it any Why did at Bece half 582 00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:25,989 Speaker 2: a Grammy? Then why did she give her half a Grammy? 583 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:35,349 Speaker 2: You have to thank keeps running around Jesus because everybody's 584 00:33:35,429 --> 00:33:41,629 Speaker 2: bitching and then everyone's or you have to thank Beyonce 585 00:33:41,789 --> 00:33:48,269 Speaker 2: in your speeches because otherwise otherwise Okay, no, No, the 586 00:33:48,309 --> 00:33:54,189 Speaker 2: aforementioned sacrifice, they don't go it. They don't go into it. Recently, 587 00:33:54,269 --> 00:33:58,269 Speaker 2: some country artists thank Beyonce fair contribution, and they're all 588 00:33:58,269 --> 00:34:01,189 Speaker 2: doing it because they're scared because you know who didn't 589 00:34:01,189 --> 00:34:07,989 Speaker 2: thank Beyonce. Amy, Why I've got this from TikTok. I'm 590 00:34:08,029 --> 00:34:10,869 Speaker 2: not I'm not bringing this up. I just spent five 591 00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:14,509 Speaker 2: minutes in a tik tok and I think Beyonce killed 592 00:34:14,549 --> 00:34:21,549 Speaker 2: baby one else. Okay, okay, I need real, I need 593 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:26,229 Speaker 2: to be real. Do you actually no, But for the 594 00:34:26,309 --> 00:34:30,309 Speaker 2: purposes of this, I'm honestly only just getting started. You see, 595 00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:33,269 Speaker 2: every time Beyonce starts one of her world tours, a 596 00:34:33,309 --> 00:34:36,869 Speaker 2: massive music icon dies. So she starts one world tour boom. 597 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:40,189 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson dead. Is that because isn't that just because 598 00:34:40,549 --> 00:34:43,789 Speaker 2: every year someone dies? No, it's because Beyonce starts her tours. 599 00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:47,509 Speaker 2: Whitney Houston, some guy named Bobby died, hold On Prince died. 600 00:34:47,629 --> 00:34:50,509 Speaker 2: What about people who died of natural cause they were 601 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:56,229 Speaker 2: all sacrificed. That's who she's sacrificing. Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner died. 602 00:34:56,589 --> 00:34:59,949 Speaker 2: And now, according to TikTok, people are begging Beyonce to 603 00:34:59,949 --> 00:35:04,229 Speaker 2: stop touring because he was killing people. She keeps killing 604 00:35:04,229 --> 00:35:06,469 Speaker 2: people every time she announces it tour, someone died. Okay, 605 00:35:06,669 --> 00:35:09,309 Speaker 2: nobody wants to sit down and just be like, but 606 00:35:09,509 --> 00:35:13,349 Speaker 2: why why would she? What is so? The reason why 607 00:35:13,389 --> 00:35:16,189 Speaker 2: is because she's actually killing them all before her tour start, 608 00:35:16,269 --> 00:35:20,589 Speaker 2: so that she can do a tribute. What Yeah? And apparently, 609 00:35:22,109 --> 00:35:25,469 Speaker 2: oh my god, because she was competitive before a flight. 610 00:35:25,669 --> 00:35:28,189 Speaker 2: There are more questions and answered, wait didn't she die 611 00:35:28,509 --> 00:35:30,869 Speaker 2: in a yeah? Yeah, but she was drugged before the 612 00:35:30,909 --> 00:35:33,149 Speaker 2: plane crash. Why would you need to drug her if 613 00:35:33,149 --> 00:35:36,549 Speaker 2: she was if the plane was going to crash? Well, 614 00:35:36,589 --> 00:35:38,789 Speaker 2: what Beyonce did. It's like being like someone died in 615 00:35:38,829 --> 00:35:40,949 Speaker 2: a car accident, but I drugged them before, and it's like, 616 00:35:40,949 --> 00:35:48,549 Speaker 2: well the drugging was kind of No, Beyonce drug people. Clear, 617 00:35:48,669 --> 00:35:50,949 Speaker 2: she kills people twice. You should have drunk the pilot. 618 00:35:51,669 --> 00:35:55,589 Speaker 2: What Beyonce did is she overloaded the plane. Aaliyah saw 619 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:57,989 Speaker 2: that it was overloaded, and she was like, I'm not 620 00:35:58,029 --> 00:36:00,029 Speaker 2: going on that plane. It's dangerous. So she went back 621 00:36:00,029 --> 00:36:02,109 Speaker 2: to her car, at which stage someone gave her a 622 00:36:02,189 --> 00:36:03,829 Speaker 2: sedative and then put it back on the plane. So 623 00:36:03,869 --> 00:36:08,069 Speaker 2: she was murdered by Beyonce speaking of everyone on TikTok, 624 00:36:08,229 --> 00:36:12,149 Speaker 2: is like, now j colesong had mysteriously disappeared, and I 625 00:36:12,189 --> 00:36:14,389 Speaker 2: was like, that's dodgy, And then I went on Spotify 626 00:36:14,429 --> 00:36:18,509 Speaker 2: and it's there is the most TikTok thing when people 627 00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:21,789 Speaker 2: like have you noticed blah, and then you're like, that's 628 00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:24,989 Speaker 2: not true. That's not a true thing. I would another clue. 629 00:36:25,549 --> 00:36:29,949 Speaker 2: You know the song she Knows, Yeah, No, there's a 630 00:36:30,029 --> 00:36:33,469 Speaker 2: reference to apple Pie, which is a Destiny's Child song. 631 00:36:34,309 --> 00:36:39,229 Speaker 2: It's also a dessert, also a dessert. It's also reference 632 00:36:39,269 --> 00:36:43,509 Speaker 2: to the American pie. Yeah. Then there's the Sea a tweet. 633 00:36:43,909 --> 00:36:47,189 Speaker 2: Have you heard about the Sea? A tweet? No, God, Claire, 634 00:36:47,229 --> 00:36:52,509 Speaker 2: please read this tweet by Sea. Okay, baby, everything you own? 635 00:36:53,509 --> 00:36:57,669 Speaker 2: Nice cat eats, yeah, kangaroo is dead nowhere and purple 636 00:36:57,669 --> 00:37:03,589 Speaker 2: penguins every day my egg, Greg Sea. It just looks 637 00:37:03,629 --> 00:37:05,949 Speaker 2: like another innocuous sea A tweet. No, it looks like 638 00:37:05,989 --> 00:37:09,189 Speaker 2: a sea a tweet where somebody might actually be like, hey, sweet, 639 00:37:09,309 --> 00:37:11,789 Speaker 2: how you going making much sense on your Twitter? You 640 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:14,589 Speaker 2: think that, but luckily TikTok is here to decode it 641 00:37:14,629 --> 00:37:17,109 Speaker 2: for you. Turn it over and read what it says 642 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:23,349 Speaker 2: when it's deck coded? Ah my? Or does it say Claire? 643 00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:24,789 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 644 00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:29,269 Speaker 2: Okay, so the first letter of every word spells out 645 00:37:30,029 --> 00:37:34,389 Speaker 2: Beyonce kidnapped me? God? Do you need any more evidence? 646 00:37:34,749 --> 00:37:37,749 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I didn't think so you won't believe it. 647 00:37:37,789 --> 00:37:40,869 Speaker 2: But allegedly this tweet is not real. Okay, I was 648 00:37:40,909 --> 00:37:45,789 Speaker 2: gonna say. She is not known for like unhinged tweets 649 00:37:45,789 --> 00:37:50,109 Speaker 2: her Twitter presence necessarily, and I don't know. I had 650 00:37:50,109 --> 00:37:53,149 Speaker 2: never heard that, just when you think things can't get 651 00:37:53,189 --> 00:37:54,949 Speaker 2: any worse. But I like that they put kangaroo in 652 00:37:55,029 --> 00:37:56,349 Speaker 2: there to make it seem like it was her because 653 00:37:56,349 --> 00:38:01,029 Speaker 2: she's Australian. Yeah yeah, and the reference to penguins. Have 654 00:38:01,109 --> 00:38:04,829 Speaker 2: you seen the Jojo Siwa thing? Mm hmmmm hmm. Okay, 655 00:38:04,869 --> 00:38:06,949 Speaker 2: because she'd like to be a part of this. No, okay, 656 00:38:07,149 --> 00:38:10,509 Speaker 2: I am not on Beyonce, she talk, I'm not on spiracy. 657 00:38:10,509 --> 00:38:14,989 Speaker 2: Tip you on Jojo? Yeah, and what Jojo did was 658 00:38:14,989 --> 00:38:18,789 Speaker 2: that Jojo made a funny joke referencing like, oh I 659 00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:23,109 Speaker 2: gotta thank Beyonce blah blah blah, and then she hasn't 660 00:38:23,149 --> 00:38:27,509 Speaker 2: been seen. I'm pretty sure that TikTok would have made 661 00:38:27,509 --> 00:38:30,789 Speaker 2: like two hours after I'll play you. What she said, 662 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:31,989 Speaker 2: I have to say. 663 00:38:31,789 --> 00:38:36,229 Speaker 5: Thank you would give the gest community scene. 664 00:38:37,269 --> 00:38:39,749 Speaker 4: Play music. We all love to it. 665 00:38:39,789 --> 00:38:46,549 Speaker 2: We all love you anyways so much. I've said it once, 666 00:38:46,629 --> 00:38:48,669 Speaker 2: not say it again, Jojo, you need to get off TikTok. 667 00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:52,309 Speaker 2: But I love that she was on TikTok so much 668 00:38:52,389 --> 00:38:55,429 Speaker 2: that she made like a meta TikTok joke at the awards. 669 00:38:55,429 --> 00:38:58,069 Speaker 2: But I don't think she was joking. I think Jojo 670 00:38:58,749 --> 00:39:01,909 Speaker 2: is totally invested in the Beyonce conspiracy theory. Really, I 671 00:39:01,989 --> 00:39:05,789 Speaker 2: thought she did it as a funny, genuinely quite annoying. 672 00:39:05,949 --> 00:39:09,389 Speaker 2: It's genuinely quite funny. That was a funny Jojo. No 673 00:39:09,469 --> 00:39:14,549 Speaker 2: when goodwie Jojo, because I'm on TikTok too. What she's 674 00:39:14,589 --> 00:39:17,709 Speaker 2: done is she has thrust this Beyonce conspiracy theory into 675 00:39:17,709 --> 00:39:21,149 Speaker 2: the mainstream and being like, oh, it's this underground TikTok thing. Yeah, 676 00:39:21,189 --> 00:39:22,869 Speaker 2: and now I'm just going to go. No, guys, you 677 00:39:22,949 --> 00:39:25,189 Speaker 2: have to thank Beyonce. She's going to kill you. Jojo. 678 00:39:25,469 --> 00:39:29,949 Speaker 2: Not helpful. Okay, Well, question has she been seen since? 679 00:39:30,429 --> 00:39:33,709 Speaker 2: I haven't seen her since because I'm not on Jojo TikTok. 680 00:39:34,349 --> 00:39:37,709 Speaker 2: I think she's fine. I think she's fine too. People 681 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:41,229 Speaker 2: are literally accusing Beyonce being a serial killer, a mass 682 00:39:41,229 --> 00:39:46,949 Speaker 2: serial killer, Sean Knowles, Sean Noles, and JoJo's over here 683 00:39:46,989 --> 00:39:50,829 Speaker 2: making light of it. Jojo, this is no laughing matter either. 684 00:39:50,869 --> 00:40:03,189 Speaker 2: The woman goes to court, we let her be Okay, Yeah, 685 00:40:04,029 --> 00:40:10,509 Speaker 2: it is time for charges and sentences. My charge, she's 686 00:40:10,549 --> 00:40:14,389 Speaker 2: had a relatively controversy free run. I will say that's 687 00:40:14,429 --> 00:40:16,509 Speaker 2: why this episode taking us a long long time to do. 688 00:40:17,389 --> 00:40:19,989 Speaker 2: How to wait until there was a conspiracy about her 689 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:25,189 Speaker 2: being sacrificial exactly, sacrificed in order to have enough content exactly. 690 00:40:25,749 --> 00:40:29,109 Speaker 2: My charge though, are the brain cells it took me 691 00:40:29,789 --> 00:40:32,509 Speaker 2: to get across that conspiracy theory because you know, when 692 00:40:32,549 --> 00:40:35,469 Speaker 2: you're learning something like in history, yeah, and you're trying 693 00:40:35,469 --> 00:40:38,189 Speaker 2: to get across something complicated, but you're like, essentially this 694 00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:40,709 Speaker 2: makes sense because it's a thing that happened. Yes, so 695 00:40:40,949 --> 00:40:42,509 Speaker 2: just you get in the helicopter and you go, so 696 00:40:42,629 --> 00:40:45,069 Speaker 2: A happened, B happens, C happened, and a cause B COSC. 697 00:40:45,229 --> 00:40:48,389 Speaker 2: But the other thing about acquiring knowledge in that way, 698 00:40:48,549 --> 00:40:50,269 Speaker 2: and this is something I find often when I'm doing 699 00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:54,589 Speaker 2: canceled research, is you need a framework in which to 700 00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:57,829 Speaker 2: hang bits of notices. Yeah, okay, So say I'm doing 701 00:40:57,829 --> 00:41:00,669 Speaker 2: some research on Chloe Kardashian. I'm like, easy, I could 702 00:41:00,749 --> 00:41:04,509 Speaker 2: draw a Kardashian family tree. We got Caitlyn Jenner, We've 703 00:41:04,549 --> 00:41:07,629 Speaker 2: got so much right. The hard thing is when you 704 00:41:07,709 --> 00:41:10,989 Speaker 2: are trying to hang bits of information on a frame 705 00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:14,549 Speaker 2: that doesn't exist, that doesn't exist, and you've got questions, 706 00:41:14,589 --> 00:41:16,429 Speaker 2: you don't know who to ask them to know, because 707 00:41:16,469 --> 00:41:22,029 Speaker 2: you can very unserious because the conspiracy theorist, what's Ja 708 00:41:22,109 --> 00:41:23,789 Speaker 2: Cole got to stup with anything? That's what I was 709 00:41:23,789 --> 00:41:29,109 Speaker 2: gonna ask. Why does Ja Cole know that Sean Knowles M? Yeah, yeah, 710 00:41:29,429 --> 00:41:33,069 Speaker 2: I have another question. How's Beyonce killing them? Who she killed? 711 00:41:33,669 --> 00:41:36,589 Speaker 2: Where does it say that she has to thank them? 712 00:41:36,629 --> 00:41:41,069 Speaker 2: What's that got to do with? This? Feels like a 713 00:41:41,189 --> 00:41:44,309 Speaker 2: save britished you. A couple of things popped up that 714 00:41:44,349 --> 00:41:47,909 Speaker 2: it just clearly photoshopped images of like Beyonce just at 715 00:41:47,909 --> 00:41:50,189 Speaker 2: a party. Yeah, I saw a photoshopped one that was 716 00:41:50,229 --> 00:41:52,669 Speaker 2: her getting up to accept a Grammy shouldn't win. And 717 00:41:52,749 --> 00:41:55,189 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's incredibly embarrassing. Yeah, like I 718 00:41:55,229 --> 00:41:58,149 Speaker 2: need to find it just wasn't real. No, that's true. 719 00:41:58,709 --> 00:42:00,469 Speaker 2: It's really hard to actually research on half of the 720 00:42:00,749 --> 00:42:04,589 Speaker 2: dc aren't real, and when there's a lot of context 721 00:42:05,069 --> 00:42:09,469 Speaker 2: that doesn't exist because it's all made in a mess 722 00:42:09,869 --> 00:42:14,429 Speaker 2: of mud. That yes, But what I've got is a 723 00:42:14,509 --> 00:42:19,709 Speaker 2: sense that Beyonce sacrificial my sentences. It's a common one 724 00:42:19,709 --> 00:42:24,829 Speaker 2: in the council courtroom. Double jeopardy okay, okay, the internet 725 00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:28,709 Speaker 2: Jojo thinks he did it? Did what uncle? Yeah killed 726 00:42:28,709 --> 00:42:31,429 Speaker 2: any one? House killed a late a liar? Were you 727 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,709 Speaker 2: the pilot? A Liah goes to the car being like, 728 00:42:34,709 --> 00:42:36,029 Speaker 2: I don't want to get on the plane. It's just 729 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:39,069 Speaker 2: so many, so many things would have had to do. Yeah, 730 00:42:39,069 --> 00:42:42,469 Speaker 2: it's like she's overloaded the plane, she's manipulated the pilot. 731 00:42:42,989 --> 00:42:47,669 Speaker 2: She actually knows aeronautical and a plane crash. And then 732 00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:49,509 Speaker 2: Alia is like, I don't want to get on the plane, 733 00:42:49,949 --> 00:42:54,949 Speaker 2: and Beyonce is sitting in the car. Yes, luckily, Yeah, 734 00:42:55,069 --> 00:42:57,869 Speaker 2: thank god, I've got a sedative. Yeah. And the question 735 00:42:58,069 --> 00:43:06,389 Speaker 2: is why, why to listen to me? And why? Well, 736 00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:11,629 Speaker 2: if you're already sacrificial and you you are already you're 737 00:43:11,629 --> 00:43:15,149 Speaker 2: a serial killer in Hollywood, I just do it. What 738 00:43:15,189 --> 00:43:17,789 Speaker 2: do you mean everyone believes it? That's my sentence. Oh 739 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:20,789 Speaker 2: my god, you think she's I'm talking. I'm talking double jeopardy, Claire. 740 00:43:20,789 --> 00:43:22,509 Speaker 2: I'm talking double jeopardy. You cannot be tried for the 741 00:43:22,549 --> 00:43:25,189 Speaker 2: same crime twice. You can't can't be done. I've looked 742 00:43:25,229 --> 00:43:28,229 Speaker 2: it up. Oh wow, So she's already been. In the 743 00:43:28,269 --> 00:43:30,749 Speaker 2: eyes of Claire. These have been viewed by tens of 744 00:43:30,749 --> 00:43:32,349 Speaker 2: millions of people, and I can't tell you how much 745 00:43:32,389 --> 00:43:36,429 Speaker 2: they believe their own shit. Okay, yeah, they believe it. Okay, 746 00:43:36,589 --> 00:43:39,309 Speaker 2: So I reckon go around in the court of public opinion. 747 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:42,429 Speaker 2: She's already been, she's already done it. Mm hm, next minute. Oh, 748 00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:46,269 Speaker 2: where Taylor Swift go? Where did Adele go? Wow? Beyonce 749 00:43:46,429 --> 00:43:49,589 Speaker 2: is just full leaning into the conspiracy theory. Yeah, and 750 00:43:49,709 --> 00:43:52,389 Speaker 2: run's in a prison in a basement. So bizire. I 751 00:43:52,429 --> 00:43:54,589 Speaker 2: think like Taylor Swift didn't thank her, she was going 752 00:43:54,629 --> 00:43:56,789 Speaker 2: to kill it. Yeah. Yeah, and that was the thing 753 00:43:56,869 --> 00:43:59,549 Speaker 2: is that Kanye got up and was like, I'll just 754 00:43:59,549 --> 00:44:03,389 Speaker 2: thank Beyonce, and it's like, yeah, because Kanye has got 755 00:44:03,429 --> 00:44:07,949 Speaker 2: a great reputation for making good decisions and defending women, 756 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:10,269 Speaker 2: that's a joke. He doesn't have a reputation for of 757 00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:14,149 Speaker 2: those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claire, what is your charge? 758 00:44:14,509 --> 00:44:22,429 Speaker 2: My charge is simple? Sean knowles Sean what Sean? Okay? 759 00:44:22,549 --> 00:44:29,909 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Exactly? What's the sentence? Then? Sure? 760 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:32,469 Speaker 2: I think if we say it enough, that's the thing. 761 00:44:32,469 --> 00:44:35,389 Speaker 2: If you say anything enough, it makes sense. Imbune meaning yeah, 762 00:44:35,629 --> 00:44:38,309 Speaker 2: if you look at somebody and kind of raise your eyebrows, 763 00:44:39,869 --> 00:44:43,629 Speaker 2: then see, she knows is a thing that makes sense. 764 00:44:43,949 --> 00:44:46,069 Speaker 2: There are two words in the English language. Actually, sure, 765 00:44:46,149 --> 00:44:47,229 Speaker 2: Noles isn't a person. 766 00:44:47,669 --> 00:44:48,109 Speaker 4: I think. 767 00:44:48,429 --> 00:44:50,069 Speaker 2: Actually, if you were listening to that song I'm trying 768 00:44:50,109 --> 00:44:53,389 Speaker 2: to build a case stick to she Knows, you don't 769 00:44:53,389 --> 00:44:56,109 Speaker 2: have to go down. There are all these things on 770 00:44:56,109 --> 00:44:59,309 Speaker 2: TikTok that are like, it's like the Aliah there, Michael 771 00:44:59,349 --> 00:45:01,389 Speaker 2: Jackson bitt that's like she knows and it's just Beyonce, 772 00:45:01,509 --> 00:45:03,869 Speaker 2: Like imagine Beyonce like her renaissance thing, just like a 773 00:45:03,869 --> 00:45:06,829 Speaker 2: silhouette of Beyonce being like she knows, and she does 774 00:45:06,869 --> 00:45:11,789 Speaker 2: look us because she's mid concert. Yeah, hasn't somebody been 775 00:45:11,909 --> 00:45:15,429 Speaker 2: charged Michael Jackson's death? Yeah, six degrees of separation always 776 00:45:15,509 --> 00:45:17,989 Speaker 2: leads right back to Beyonce her yeah, because she knows. 777 00:45:18,189 --> 00:45:18,269 Speaker 5: No. 778 00:45:18,389 --> 00:45:22,349 Speaker 2: Okay, So seriously, my sentency is not absolutely nothing is 779 00:45:22,389 --> 00:45:26,349 Speaker 2: poor man? Poor woman. She's walking around Hollywood and all 780 00:45:26,389 --> 00:45:28,869 Speaker 2: these young little TikTokers are looking at her, being like, 781 00:45:31,029 --> 00:45:34,229 Speaker 2: stop sacrificing people. Oh I wonder if the live he 782 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:36,589 Speaker 2: is on TikTok. That must be sad to learn that 783 00:45:36,629 --> 00:45:39,669 Speaker 2: your mum is sacrificing people by the internet. Yeah, it 784 00:45:39,709 --> 00:45:41,509 Speaker 2: would be. And then you know, when you're scared to 785 00:45:41,509 --> 00:45:45,349 Speaker 2: ask your mom a question? Yeah, mom, do you sacrifice 786 00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:47,349 Speaker 2: people with her? And thank you to Ward if you've 787 00:45:47,389 --> 00:45:51,229 Speaker 2: been on TikTok again. Yes, Claire, I have a laser 788 00:45:51,229 --> 00:45:55,989 Speaker 2: girl story. Oh yeah, we now soap send us a 789 00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:59,509 Speaker 2: voice message to our Instagram, right, yeah, like a voice note, yep, 790 00:45:59,869 --> 00:46:02,829 Speaker 2: and laser girls take a minute. Yeah, I think this 791 00:46:02,869 --> 00:46:05,989 Speaker 2: could have been months ago. But to listen to a 792 00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:09,269 Speaker 2: voice note, Yeah, I got a breastplay. Yeah right, but 793 00:46:09,309 --> 00:46:12,509 Speaker 2: I gotta be some we can listen and yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, 794 00:46:12,509 --> 00:46:13,989 Speaker 2: a press the play. I mean tell you what she 795 00:46:14,029 --> 00:46:16,149 Speaker 2: told me. Okay, good, she said with her friend. Her 796 00:46:16,189 --> 00:46:17,829 Speaker 2: and her friend went to our canceled last year at 797 00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:20,749 Speaker 2: the Powerhouse Museum. They're really enjoyed. Yeah, they're laser girls. 798 00:46:20,789 --> 00:46:23,989 Speaker 2: They're like sooth has a sprain ankle. Oh no, she 799 00:46:24,109 --> 00:46:27,229 Speaker 2: showed herself because lady girls are constantly injured. And her friend, 800 00:46:27,229 --> 00:46:29,509 Speaker 2: who was sitting on the couch giggling as she was 801 00:46:29,549 --> 00:46:32,029 Speaker 2: sending this voice note, she has a sore hip okay, 802 00:46:32,189 --> 00:46:35,469 Speaker 2: and wrist. I'm god, I've got a saw risk. I 803 00:46:35,509 --> 00:46:37,949 Speaker 2: think I have a ganglion. Okay. I think her friend 804 00:46:37,949 --> 00:46:40,989 Speaker 2: does too, because she's gone to the chemist to buy 805 00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:46,149 Speaker 2: like a strap for her wrist, which I reckon is 806 00:46:46,149 --> 00:46:48,629 Speaker 2: actually a whole lazy girl story in it. Yeah self, yeah, 807 00:46:48,989 --> 00:46:51,909 Speaker 2: because nothing gets you out of something like a strap 808 00:46:52,229 --> 00:46:54,389 Speaker 2: yep on your wrist. And she's not being to the 809 00:46:54,429 --> 00:46:56,149 Speaker 2: doctor anything. She doesn't plan to. She doesn't think it's 810 00:46:56,189 --> 00:46:57,109 Speaker 2: actually sprain or anything. 811 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:57,749 Speaker 4: It's just saw. 812 00:46:57,949 --> 00:47:00,429 Speaker 2: We just need medical accessors. Yeah, yeah, and her hip's 813 00:47:00,469 --> 00:47:04,229 Speaker 2: not great anyway. They're sending this voice message and they're 814 00:47:04,269 --> 00:47:07,669 Speaker 2: about like thirty centimeters away from each other, and they 815 00:47:07,709 --> 00:47:09,389 Speaker 2: were both in paint because the wrist and the hip 816 00:47:09,389 --> 00:47:11,749 Speaker 2: and the ankle, and and they were looking at one 817 00:47:11,749 --> 00:47:15,589 Speaker 2: of their phones, but so kept looking at her friend's phone, 818 00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:18,029 Speaker 2: and she didn't have the energy to go and scroll 819 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:20,989 Speaker 2: on her phone, so she kept just gesturing, ah, yes, 820 00:47:21,269 --> 00:47:24,549 Speaker 2: to be like scroll, keep scrolling, keep scroll, keep scroll, 821 00:47:24,629 --> 00:47:27,309 Speaker 2: keep scroll. And they were sitting there giggling at themselves 822 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:29,709 Speaker 2: and how lazy they were. And the third voice note 823 00:47:29,749 --> 00:47:32,029 Speaker 2: that they sent was just them laughing, going no, no, no, 824 00:47:32,149 --> 00:47:34,429 Speaker 2: they'll find it funny. They'll find it funny. They're lady girls. 825 00:47:34,509 --> 00:47:36,309 Speaker 2: And then they just did the impression of lazy girls 826 00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:40,429 Speaker 2: over and over again. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. Guys, 827 00:47:40,429 --> 00:47:42,709 Speaker 2: that's really fun because lazy girls always injured because they're 828 00:47:42,709 --> 00:47:46,149 Speaker 2: not doing things correctly, like lifting. We have weak joints. 829 00:47:46,229 --> 00:47:49,589 Speaker 2: We have weak joints. Honestly, the risk thing is from scrolling. 830 00:47:49,629 --> 00:47:52,429 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Look that's a bloody ganglion. Yeah, I've 831 00:47:52,429 --> 00:47:55,109 Speaker 2: got a ganglion. Two h Thank you so much for 832 00:47:55,189 --> 00:47:58,749 Speaker 2: joining us on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced 833 00:47:58,789 --> 00:48:03,149 Speaker 2: by Kimberly Bradish with audio production by Leah Porges. For 834 00:48:03,269 --> 00:48:06,349 Speaker 2: more from us, follow us on Instagram. At the Twins 835 00:48:06,429 --> 00:48:08,949 Speaker 2: Undersquare thoughts. Oh, you can find us on TikTok At 836 00:48:09,149 --> 00:48:12,429 Speaker 2: canceled the podcast. We will be back next week. Bye 837 00:48:12,469 --> 00:48:18,109 Speaker 2: bye h