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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: From MoMA Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Dinner Promus.

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Speaker 2: So it's Thursday, and we are diving into all of

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Speaker 2: the drama of this week of Married at First Site

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Speaker 2: because a lot has happened. But first we need to

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Speaker 2: talk about some very real life important news that came

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Speaker 2: out this week, and that is the very sad news

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Speaker 2: that Mel Shilling, who has been on Married at First

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Speaker 2: Side as a beloved expert for twelve years, very sadly

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Speaker 2: passed away this week. Her husband Gareth posted to Instagram

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Speaker 2: and announced that she had sadly passed away at just

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Speaker 2: fifty four years old, which is so so young. This

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Speaker 2: news comes just two weeks after she revealed herself that

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Speaker 2: her colon cancer had spread to her brain and she

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Speaker 2: was feeling very unwell and a lot of people and

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Speaker 2: fans have been like really supportive in following her journey.

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Speaker 2: So her husband wanted to share some news about what

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Speaker 2: their family has been through in her final moments, and

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Speaker 2: there was just this out pouring from not just the

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Speaker 2: Married at First Sight film and TV family, but from

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Speaker 2: viewers on the show, from people and other reality TV shows,

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Speaker 2: from people across the world that had watched her marrit

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Speaker 2: at first sight, that was just outpouring of love for her,

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Speaker 2: and I thought it was really lovely. Some of the

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Speaker 2: words that her husband Gareth used to describe her, talking

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Speaker 2: about the fact that she was his soulmate and how

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Speaker 2: much she meant to their daughter Mattie, who was only

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Speaker 2: eleven years old. So we're thinking of her. There's no

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Speaker 2: age that's good to lose your parents, but eleven years

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Speaker 2: old so young. And so he wrote an instagram of Mel,

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of these beautiful things about her in

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Speaker 2: her final days. But he also said, this is a

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Speaker 2: woman who became a new mum and a TV star

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Speaker 2: at forty two, and she nailed both. This is a

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Speaker 2: woman who, through two years of chemotherapy when she could

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Speaker 2: barely lift her head from her pillow, never complained and

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Speaker 2: never stopped showing courage, grace, compassionate empathy, and also never

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Speaker 2: really lovely as well. He said, to most of you,

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Speaker 2: she was Mel Shilling, matriarch of maths and queen of

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Speaker 2: reality TV. To Mattie and me. She was our wee Melsie,

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Speaker 2: incredible mum, role model and soulmate.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, emotional words hearing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to your point, the outpour of love

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was reading a beautiful statement from Elizabeth Day,

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Speaker 2: who is a British podcast host and author and really

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Speaker 2: and they have a podcast together, and she was talking

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Speaker 2: about mel finding out that her cancer had come back

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Speaker 2: the day before their launch party, but still showing up

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Speaker 2: in this gold sequin dress and cutting the cake and

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Speaker 2: being on the dance floor and being like, but I'm

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Speaker 2: here to celebrate. And I was reading through all the

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Speaker 2: comments under her husband's statement, but also just across all

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Speaker 2: the different news outlets and merit at first Sight, and

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Speaker 2: what really struck you was how many past contestants, Because

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Speaker 2: as we know, a lot of past contestants have a

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Speaker 2: really difficult time on this show one because they're put

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Speaker 2: into this intense situation. Sometimes they're paired with someone who

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Speaker 2: they don't get along with. Often they fight with other

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Speaker 2: to me, I thought that's very telling of the kind

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: I think again, like it just shows how she was

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got Michael Brenelli and Martha.

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Speaker 3: He left a really sweet comment on there, thanking her

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Speaker 3: for everything that she did for them. They've got a

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Speaker 2: I thought it was really nice how Michael said, because

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Speaker 1: They are married.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, Yeah, exactly, And he was like, when we

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Speaker 2: which is really nice. So so many thoughts go out

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Speaker 2: Toimel's family and friends, everyone who knew her. It's just very,

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Speaker 2: very devastating. Okay, married at first sight, homestays, home weeks something.

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Speaker 1: Home stay week, Yes, getting down to the points.

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Speaker 2: On The Bachelor they call it hometowns, right, and this

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Speaker 2: primed for drama. The way they do it, they will

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Speaker 2: still don't know what they're in for. But here we go.

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Speaker 2: Shall we start with a little pleasant surprise before we

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Speaker 2: get into some of the drama, which is Rachel and

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Speaker 2: Stephen did not see these guys making it to the

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Speaker 2: finish line. And I'm still not convinced that there are

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Speaker 3: I just think they're two nice people, and I think

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Speaker 2: Bar is very Yeah, I think they're having a nice

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Speaker 2: because I'm the one who said that they weren't going

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Speaker 3: She seems way more into it, like throughout theramount.

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Speaker 2: But they seem to have quite a nice time. They

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Speaker 2: won the boat. The only bit of drama was when

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Speaker 2: have jumped off that boat and swam for sure. Office

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Speaker 2: in a boat though, Yeah with alcohol?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put me in a boat with alcohol and hang

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Speaker 2: Honestly, if you have a boat, you invite tire and

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Speaker 2: I will be there anyone, no questions are. You'd be

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Speaker 2: misogynistic as you want if there's a boat involved. Now

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Jar and Scott had They at first felt like they

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Speaker 2: she arrived at his home and was instantly said it

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Speaker 1: She was instantly disgusted.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she was more upset by the actual dirt.

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Speaker 2: And can I say, why don't think?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you've been in the same boat

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you walk into his home and you just like

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Speaker 2: this is not only do I not want to date you,

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Speaker 2: but I want to call like a who do you

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Speaker 2: call if someone's living in like mum? What do you call?

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Speaker 2: If someone's living in a level of filth that could

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Speaker 1: I have been in a man's house and he had

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Speaker 2: And if he brought it to him, he would not

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 2: Oh just or I once want your guy's house who

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And there were so many other things. This is what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So Scott pillowcases. Scott had haven't you seen

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Speaker 1: That's coming to different places.

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Speaker 2: Keep keep dating into your thirty you're going to hit

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Speaker 2: it's going to look forward to what's left. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: when I saw that Scott had pillowcases, he had framed photos,

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Speaker 1: Here's a waterfront view and a walk in wardrobe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well. I think she was having a bit of a

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Speaker 1: Her meriton sweet yes exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's also very in her to have

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Speaker 3: back to her having reality set in and this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Here's an investigative question for you before we

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Speaker 2: move on to another drama fill couple. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that travel pillow, the pink travel pillow that caused all

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Speaker 2: the issues, do you think that belonged to an next girlfriend?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that was his Okay, I think in

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent belonged to an ex.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why he's dying on the hill, But I don't think

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Speaker 3: Gia should crucify Scott for having.

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Speaker 1: A pink neck pillow because we all have a past.

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Speaker 1: You have a daughter, you have a daughter, he's got

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Speaker 1: a neck pillow.

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Speaker 2: Did you just compare her daughter to a next y

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Speaker 2: E comes to something? Here's my thought, Well, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: she's clearly not in the house right now. She's killing

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Speaker 2: on around. I doubt he's keeping it for sentimental reason,

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Speaker 2: and so I don't Again, I think it was a

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Speaker 2: bigger issue. My second thought was, who keeps a travel pillow?

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Speaker 3: Like they don't keep a travel it won't be a

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Speaker 1: I have a consistent travel pillow.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think it's disgusting? After being on a long

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they were in her mother.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I do not like I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 2: It was such a mum thing to say. Though.

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Speaker 2: It was too good to be see good to be true.

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Speaker 3: I thought, because they were late commers that they were

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Speaker 2: There exactly, and they went through that whole big thing

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Speaker 2: up with him when you get back to the Meridian

441
00:17:52,314 --> 00:17:57,994
Speaker 2: Sweets whatever they're called little those little kind of square

442
00:17:58,234 --> 00:18:01,994
Speaker 2: holeless little boxes that they make everyone's office. Yeah.

443
00:18:02,274 --> 00:18:04,313
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think these are just two people who are

444
00:18:04,314 --> 00:18:06,234
Speaker 3: not meant to be together, and they obviously have two

445
00:18:06,474 --> 00:18:10,273
Speaker 3: very different ways to deal with conflict. You've got Sam

446
00:18:10,354 --> 00:18:12,834
Speaker 3: who really wants to talk things through and like hash

447
00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:15,513
Speaker 3: it all out, yeah, which probably he's hashed it out

448
00:18:15,554 --> 00:18:16,074
Speaker 3: too many.

449
00:18:15,874 --> 00:18:17,954
Speaker 2: Times when he put that list and he's like, number one,

450
00:18:18,074 --> 00:18:20,634
Speaker 2: do you take full responsibility for your behavior to night?

451
00:18:20,674 --> 00:18:22,674
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, dude.

452
00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:24,514
Speaker 1: It's a been condescending. I love Sam. I'm like dying

453
00:18:24,554 --> 00:18:28,794
Speaker 1: on the hill that way, right Sam. Yeah, I love Sam.

454
00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:30,674
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I'm not gonna happen.

455
00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:32,834
Speaker 2: If he's a brother.

456
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:37,114
Speaker 3: True, we should research this, but yeah, I think I

457
00:18:37,154 --> 00:18:39,234
Speaker 3: was like dying on that hill to defend him. But

458
00:18:39,274 --> 00:18:42,234
Speaker 3: then when you do look at it from his perspective,

459
00:18:42,314 --> 00:18:45,353
Speaker 3: like how many more apologies can you give? And how

460
00:18:45,474 --> 00:18:48,394
Speaker 3: much more can you be like reprimanded by something? And

461
00:18:48,434 --> 00:18:51,313
Speaker 3: he obviously just wants to have fun and enjoy the

462
00:18:51,354 --> 00:18:52,314
Speaker 3: farm and bringing.

463
00:18:52,194 --> 00:18:52,754
Speaker 1: Into this world.

464
00:18:52,834 --> 00:18:55,594
Speaker 3: I think it's just that situation of context versus reality.

465
00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,954
Speaker 3: I think Sam thought he was heading into like a

466
00:18:58,034 --> 00:19:00,514
Speaker 3: really romantic weekend.

467
00:19:00,114 --> 00:19:02,874
Speaker 1: Away and he was really excited when he got there.

468
00:19:02,794 --> 00:19:05,154
Speaker 3: Because there was a little card that was there for him,

469
00:19:05,194 --> 00:19:06,354
Speaker 3: and he thought it was going to have like a

470
00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:11,794
Speaker 3: really heartfelt but it actually just said welcome to the farm.

471
00:19:11,874 --> 00:19:14,994
Speaker 3: And it's written really in big letters like a child's

472
00:19:15,114 --> 00:19:16,793
Speaker 3: I mean, look I'm still.

473
00:19:16,554 --> 00:19:18,553
Speaker 2: Cute card now and we don't do it. It's a

474
00:19:18,554 --> 00:19:18,994
Speaker 2: lost skill.

475
00:19:19,114 --> 00:19:20,314
Speaker 1: I think it's quite cute.

476
00:19:20,474 --> 00:19:24,634
Speaker 2: Yeah expensive these days, Yeah, okay, but I was so low.

477
00:19:25,034 --> 00:19:26,234
Speaker 2: Do you know what I thought when I saw that

478
00:19:26,274 --> 00:19:29,034
Speaker 2: scene of them driving there together in the farm, just

479
00:19:29,154 --> 00:19:32,234
Speaker 2: the two of them in absolute silence. That is the

480
00:19:32,234 --> 00:19:34,274
Speaker 2: most I burst out laughing because I obviously felt bad

481
00:19:34,274 --> 00:19:35,954
Speaker 2: for this two hot men, but also I was like,

482
00:19:35,954 --> 00:19:37,794
Speaker 2: that is the most awkward thing. It made me think

483
00:19:37,834 --> 00:19:40,954
Speaker 2: of that scene from Ladybird where Social's carriage just opens

484
00:19:40,994 --> 00:19:43,314
Speaker 2: the door and like throws herself out of the car.

485
00:19:43,874 --> 00:19:45,194
Speaker 2: I was like, oh God, that would have been me.

486
00:19:45,434 --> 00:19:45,714
Speaker 1: Hello.

487
00:19:45,754 --> 00:19:48,194
Speaker 2: So then they both decide to go to the dinner

488
00:19:48,234 --> 00:19:51,634
Speaker 2: party separately, and I love I love the sassy drama

489
00:19:51,674 --> 00:19:54,394
Speaker 2: in this because they're both like, I'm telling my side

490
00:19:54,434 --> 00:19:56,394
Speaker 2: of the story. He is not going to turn everyone

491
00:19:56,394 --> 00:19:59,314
Speaker 2: against me, and so which brings us to the dinner party.

492
00:19:59,594 --> 00:20:01,234
Speaker 1: I wonder if they had to fight to who goes

493
00:20:01,274 --> 00:20:01,793
Speaker 1: in first.

494
00:20:02,194 --> 00:20:04,513
Speaker 2: Potentially, I mean, as we know that the producers had

495
00:20:04,514 --> 00:20:06,394
Speaker 2: them all lined up in their cars outside, it would

496
00:20:06,434 --> 00:20:08,314
Speaker 2: have been very so hegic of when they go in,

497
00:20:08,514 --> 00:20:10,434
Speaker 2: and of course the producers would have been so thrilled

498
00:20:10,474 --> 00:20:12,154
Speaker 2: they were both going to have a throw down.

499
00:20:12,314 --> 00:20:13,594
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they both went.

500
00:20:13,794 --> 00:20:16,154
Speaker 3: I was started to say goodbye to Sam because he

501
00:20:16,234 --> 00:20:18,434
Speaker 3: was like trailing off into the distance with his suitcase.

502
00:20:18,474 --> 00:20:19,794
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, and then they're just they

503
00:20:19,874 --> 00:20:21,234
Speaker 1: just meet back up at the dinner party.

504
00:20:21,314 --> 00:20:24,194
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he walk back to Sydney.

505
00:20:24,394 --> 00:20:26,434
Speaker 1: Yeah, with his suitcase, his suit and he gets the

506
00:20:26,434 --> 00:20:28,513
Speaker 1: dinner house, wasn't driving him. You saw how awkward that.

507
00:20:28,674 --> 00:20:30,354
Speaker 2: You know, they couldn't get back in that car together

508
00:20:31,314 --> 00:20:33,354
Speaker 2: so much to unpack. So then they had it out

509
00:20:33,394 --> 00:20:35,794
Speaker 2: at the dinner table, and I feel like a lot

510
00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:38,114
Speaker 2: of people on Chris's side. Yeah, I thought it.

511
00:20:38,074 --> 00:20:38,834
Speaker 1: Was really interesting.

512
00:20:38,874 --> 00:20:41,474
Speaker 3: I wonder what the relationships are that they share with

513
00:20:41,594 --> 00:20:43,954
Speaker 3: the other maps contested, Like if Chris has a much

514
00:20:44,354 --> 00:20:46,434
Speaker 3: stronger bond with them, because I think from what we've

515
00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:49,033
Speaker 3: seen and conversations I've had with people and what I've

516
00:20:49,074 --> 00:20:52,313
Speaker 3: seen online and what we've chatted about here, everybody is

517
00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:55,434
Speaker 3: like on Sam's side. But then at the dinner party,

518
00:20:55,514 --> 00:20:58,114
Speaker 3: a lot of people are rushing to Chris's defense and

519
00:20:58,154 --> 00:21:00,634
Speaker 3: you know, saying that like Sam hasn't given him enough

520
00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:04,314
Speaker 3: of a chance, and apologized and just like I feel

521
00:21:04,354 --> 00:21:06,794
Speaker 3: like a lot of people feel as though Sam's holding

522
00:21:06,834 --> 00:21:09,074
Speaker 3: Chris to a really high stand at that he was

523
00:21:09,314 --> 00:21:09,994
Speaker 3: never going to reach.

524
00:21:10,434 --> 00:21:13,074
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Kind of. It's so hard because like again,

525
00:21:13,154 --> 00:21:14,914
Speaker 2: as listen so many times, they have all these like

526
00:21:14,954 --> 00:21:17,354
Speaker 2: group chats and interactions and stuff that we're not privy to.

527
00:21:17,594 --> 00:21:20,554
Speaker 2: So who is the fan favorite? Which is I think

528
00:21:20,594 --> 00:21:22,714
Speaker 2: you're right is Sam is so different to who is

529
00:21:22,754 --> 00:21:25,793
Speaker 2: like the contestant favorite, which kind of came across as Chris.

530
00:21:26,194 --> 00:21:27,474
Speaker 2: I don't know. But I also think they're all just

531
00:21:27,514 --> 00:21:29,954
Speaker 2: also dealing with their own drama because anytime any one

532
00:21:29,954 --> 00:21:32,594
Speaker 2: of the contestants jumped in, they brought it back to themselves.

533
00:21:32,634 --> 00:21:35,914
Speaker 2: And we saw that with Beck and Danny. Yeah exactly,

534
00:21:36,074 --> 00:21:38,073
Speaker 2: they're just all ready to go. I thought like it

535
00:21:38,074 --> 00:21:40,313
Speaker 2: was Beck and Danny because then they were talking at

536
00:21:40,314 --> 00:21:42,154
Speaker 2: their homestay and they kept saying, like, what did she

537
00:21:42,194 --> 00:21:45,634
Speaker 2: call it? Was a little blip, a little something strange,

538
00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:48,634
Speaker 2: like that's like bebo yeah, a little bop do be yeah?

539
00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:52,914
Speaker 2: Anything to avoid saying fight, argument, reckoning, throw down.

540
00:21:53,594 --> 00:21:56,474
Speaker 1: It was never heard anyone use the term used.

541
00:21:56,394 --> 00:21:58,354
Speaker 2: Like she's like a bing bong or something like that

542
00:21:58,874 --> 00:22:01,994
Speaker 2: it wasn't that, but it was similar anyway, something for

543
00:22:02,034 --> 00:22:03,594
Speaker 2: you all to go and research in your own time.

544
00:22:03,714 --> 00:22:05,674
Speaker 2: But they didn't want to call it a fight. But

545
00:22:05,674 --> 00:22:07,954
Speaker 2: then it kind of escalated all fight with the whole

546
00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:10,714
Speaker 2: table because Danny was talking about the fact that he

547
00:22:10,834 --> 00:22:13,154
Speaker 2: was so keen to move in with her, And then

548
00:22:13,194 --> 00:22:16,034
Speaker 2: when they had the whatever they called it wasn't a

549
00:22:16,074 --> 00:22:17,674
Speaker 2: fight if it was, but they were calling it some

550
00:22:17,754 --> 00:22:20,434
Speaker 2: nonsensical word to make it seem less dramatic. He's like,

551
00:22:20,474 --> 00:22:22,114
Speaker 2: once we had that, then I started to have second

552
00:22:22,154 --> 00:22:24,674
Speaker 2: thoughts because I would be uncomfortable Beck's home and this

553
00:22:24,714 --> 00:22:27,793
Speaker 2: is my Rachel was actually my MVP the whole this

554
00:22:27,834 --> 00:22:29,994
Speaker 2: whole week because she's just having a lovely time.

555
00:22:31,114 --> 00:22:33,514
Speaker 1: Just like cuddling, like well, no, because she was having

556
00:22:33,514 --> 00:22:34,314
Speaker 1: something like she.

557
00:22:34,354 --> 00:22:36,914
Speaker 2: Was hasing some good calls and saying what I was thinking.

558
00:22:37,194 --> 00:22:39,514
Speaker 2: When Chris and Sam walked in solo, she goes, oh shit,

559
00:22:42,314 --> 00:22:44,994
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, girl, that's correct. And then when

560
00:22:45,074 --> 00:22:47,314
Speaker 2: Beck and Danny were having their like back and forth,

561
00:22:47,354 --> 00:22:49,234
Speaker 2: and He's like, I wouldn't feel comfortable, and Rachel was like,

562
00:22:49,394 --> 00:22:51,314
Speaker 2: what he's trying to say is that he wouldn't feel

563
00:22:51,314 --> 00:22:53,354
Speaker 2: comfortable because you know, it's not his space and he

564
00:22:53,394 --> 00:22:55,674
Speaker 2: wants to feel at home, and Danny goes, yeah, and

565
00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:57,514
Speaker 2: I'd feel real like a real bitch of a sade

566
00:22:57,514 --> 00:23:00,354
Speaker 2: a woman's house. And then Rachel's like, oh no, that's

567
00:23:00,394 --> 00:23:02,914
Speaker 2: not That's not what I was saying. No, no, no, no no.

568
00:23:03,634 --> 00:23:06,513
Speaker 2: She's like, you're on your own with that situation. Yeah,

569
00:23:06,674 --> 00:23:08,874
Speaker 2: Danny's showing me his true colors. What do we think

570
00:23:08,874 --> 00:23:10,714
Speaker 2: of that? I would feel like a bitch moving into

571
00:23:10,754 --> 00:23:11,434
Speaker 2: a woman's home.

572
00:23:11,514 --> 00:23:12,954
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate that.

573
00:23:13,074 --> 00:23:15,354
Speaker 3: And then it kind of led into this big discussion

574
00:23:15,354 --> 00:23:16,914
Speaker 3: of you know, he just wants to be in his

575
00:23:17,114 --> 00:23:20,474
Speaker 3: masculine energy. I feel like it's such a buzzword at

576
00:23:20,474 --> 00:23:22,874
Speaker 3: the moment, like your feminine energy are musculine.

577
00:23:22,514 --> 00:23:24,794
Speaker 2: Energy, And I honestly just don't think any of them

578
00:23:24,834 --> 00:23:27,954
Speaker 2: know what that means. And they throwed around the wrong content.

579
00:23:28,034 --> 00:23:30,594
Speaker 3: What are we talking about? Like, it doesn't feel like

580
00:23:30,594 --> 00:23:32,274
Speaker 3: it's the right context. You's talk about gender roles?

581
00:23:32,274 --> 00:23:33,314
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?

582
00:23:33,434 --> 00:23:36,434
Speaker 3: Like? It just feels like making excuses for something. And

583
00:23:36,914 --> 00:23:39,074
Speaker 3: I don't like where Danny has gone with this. I

584
00:23:39,074 --> 00:23:41,994
Speaker 3: think I always suspected that of him, But why should

585
00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:45,154
Speaker 3: you be emasculated? That like Beck has this like beautiful

586
00:23:45,154 --> 00:23:47,634
Speaker 3: home that she's tried so hard to welcome you into.

587
00:23:48,154 --> 00:23:50,234
Speaker 2: Well a little bit like Rachel. I was a bit

588
00:23:50,314 --> 00:23:52,594
Speaker 2: on his side when he first brought it up, because

589
00:23:52,634 --> 00:23:54,434
Speaker 2: I think what he was trying to say is it

590
00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:57,154
Speaker 2: can't be our home when we're happy, and then your

591
00:23:57,234 --> 00:24:00,394
Speaker 2: home where I feel very uncomfortable, because if you're at

592
00:24:00,434 --> 00:24:03,034
Speaker 2: someone's house and then you have something like an altercation argument,

593
00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:04,314
Speaker 2: it's so uncomfortable.

594
00:24:03,874 --> 00:24:06,034
Speaker 1: And it's the first time they've at each other's house.

595
00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:08,434
Speaker 2: It's not your space, it's not your home, like he

596
00:24:08,474 --> 00:24:10,553
Speaker 2: doesn't have his people around him. If he had said, like,

597
00:24:10,874 --> 00:24:12,914
Speaker 2: it can't be our home when we're happy, in your

598
00:24:12,954 --> 00:24:15,834
Speaker 2: home when something goes wrong, I would totally understand that.

599
00:24:16,034 --> 00:24:17,434
Speaker 2: But when he was like, oh, it's kind of like

600
00:24:17,474 --> 00:24:19,274
Speaker 2: a bitch, like it makes me look weak to move

601
00:24:19,274 --> 00:24:21,594
Speaker 2: into a woman's home, I was like, there's the man

602
00:24:21,634 --> 00:24:24,074
Speaker 2: that he never lets out on TV because he's so

603
00:24:24,194 --> 00:24:25,314
Speaker 2: aware he's being filmed.

604
00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:28,513
Speaker 3: I wonder if he says that to kind of mask

605
00:24:29,154 --> 00:24:32,754
Speaker 3: what we initially suspected. You know, obviously he feels a

606
00:24:32,794 --> 00:24:35,834
Speaker 3: bit vulnerable because he doesn't have a support system in place,

607
00:24:36,114 --> 00:24:39,674
Speaker 3: But does he feel more comfortable to say he doesn't

608
00:24:39,674 --> 00:24:41,354
Speaker 3: want to feel like a bitch living in her house,

609
00:24:41,434 --> 00:24:45,754
Speaker 3: maybe masking the real feeling or maybe not even understanding

610
00:24:45,914 --> 00:24:47,074
Speaker 3: why he feels that way.

611
00:24:47,154 --> 00:24:49,274
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he did feel that that was the more

612
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:52,674
Speaker 2: like masculine and acceptable thing to say, to be like,

613
00:24:52,914 --> 00:24:54,754
Speaker 2: I want to be paying my own way to kind

614
00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,634
Speaker 2: of I guess give him the benefit of doubt, and

615
00:24:56,714 --> 00:24:57,793
Speaker 2: not that he was saying that, but I think he

616
00:24:57,834 --> 00:24:59,354
Speaker 2: was saying, like, I want to be like, you know, look,

617
00:24:59,394 --> 00:25:01,474
Speaker 2: the one who looks after the woman, not the one

618
00:25:01,514 --> 00:25:03,394
Speaker 2: who moves into his home. And he thought that that

619
00:25:03,434 --> 00:25:06,634
Speaker 2: was more masculine quote unquote than saying like I feel

620
00:25:06,674 --> 00:25:09,154
Speaker 2: out of death because I'm in your world not the

621
00:25:09,194 --> 00:25:10,834
Speaker 2: other way around. And then I love how Beck just

622
00:25:10,874 --> 00:25:12,874
Speaker 2: goes into like real estate mode. She's like, well, why

623
00:25:12,874 --> 00:25:14,594
Speaker 2: would you want to live there? Five minutes from the city,

624
00:25:14,994 --> 00:25:17,434
Speaker 2: Seventy six thousand dollars mortgage left on a three million

625
00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:20,554
Speaker 2: dollar home a backyard. I was like, okay, okay.

626
00:25:21,154 --> 00:25:22,194
Speaker 1: Selling him this house.

627
00:25:22,314 --> 00:25:25,034
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so knock me over with a feather if

628
00:25:25,034 --> 00:25:26,954
Speaker 2: we cut to now, because obviously this was filmed a

629
00:25:26,994 --> 00:25:28,914
Speaker 2: long time ago, Like, not me done with a feather?

630
00:25:28,954 --> 00:25:30,634
Speaker 2: If it comes out of these two are still living

631
00:25:30,674 --> 00:25:34,154
Speaker 2: together happily. If they are, it's under jurists, let me

632
00:25:34,194 --> 00:25:34,434
Speaker 2: tell you.

633
00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,834
Speaker 1: Yeah, no that someone check on that mat.

634
00:25:36,874 --> 00:25:39,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, and her as well. Like, I mean, I don't

635
00:25:39,274 --> 00:25:40,994
Speaker 2: particularly like either of them, but I just feel like

636
00:25:40,994 --> 00:25:42,314
Speaker 2: there are this no win situation.

637
00:25:42,634 --> 00:25:45,034
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think knowing how invested she is week

638
00:25:45,114 --> 00:25:48,594
Speaker 3: after week, like just seeing how much her light kind

639
00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:52,234
Speaker 3: of gets dimmed by it because you can tell that

640
00:25:52,314 --> 00:25:53,514
Speaker 3: she does love him.

641
00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:55,954
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but you know what, I think she just

642
00:25:55,994 --> 00:25:58,754
Speaker 2: really loves the idea of you. And again, I know

643
00:25:58,794 --> 00:26:00,754
Speaker 2: we're only seeing a very small part, so I could

644
00:26:00,754 --> 00:26:02,754
Speaker 2: be wrong, But like, when do we see these guys

645
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:05,714
Speaker 2: like share jokes because they have different sens of humor,

646
00:26:05,874 --> 00:26:09,234
Speaker 2: share like stories share. They're only from the same page

647
00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:10,954
Speaker 2: where they're talking about the fact that we need to

648
00:26:10,994 --> 00:26:13,714
Speaker 2: be on the same page. They don't seem to enjoy

649
00:26:13,754 --> 00:26:14,553
Speaker 2: each other's company.

650
00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:15,594
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't see much.

651
00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:17,354
Speaker 2: But that's what Merrett first like does to you. I

652
00:26:17,354 --> 00:26:19,114
Speaker 2: think it puts you in this crazy bubble and you

653
00:26:19,154 --> 00:26:21,313
Speaker 2: either sink or swim, and then you talk yourself into it,

654
00:26:21,354 --> 00:26:23,914
Speaker 2: and then when you get out, you see things differently.

655
00:26:24,154 --> 00:26:26,074
Speaker 2: When you get some Instagram followers and you get invited

656
00:26:26,114 --> 00:26:26,554
Speaker 2: to an event.

657
00:26:26,794 --> 00:26:28,513
Speaker 1: I think that would have very different worlds as well.

658
00:26:28,954 --> 00:26:31,634
Speaker 1: We saw his friends at the star at the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot about that. Yeah, the guy

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Speaker 2: who looked like Channing Tater stripper. Yeah, the stripper.

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Speaker 1: The stripper.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that was breaking out with them. That was great

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Speaker 2: TV moment when Beck was like, you slept with my

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Speaker 2: friend the other I didn't call her. Gosh. Well, as

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Speaker 2: a society, we skated over that too fast. So that's

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Speaker 2: where kind of where we landed. Christ and Sam have

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Speaker 2: broken up. But good news for you know, everyone else

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Speaker 2: out in the dating scene of those two sexy men

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Speaker 2: are out of that again. If anyone wants to go

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Speaker 2: stay on a farm. And Sam's samily is not a sharehouse,

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Speaker 2: as he pointed out, so that's fine too.

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Speaker 1: Shades to the sharehouse.

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Speaker 2: No, he's with my friends, And I was like, I

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Speaker 2: can't believe this is where we're at that he has

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Speaker 2: to defend living with a friend.

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Speaker 1: My god.

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Speaker 2: And so now we move into the No one will

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Speaker 2: tell us exactly when the last episode is, but we're

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Speaker 2: in the final final day and I just think there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a lot more drama to come, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these. God speed to these we need

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Speaker 2: to get to. We need to get speed to know.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen. I'm getting more invested.

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Speaker 2: I was already a bit like lukewarm about you know, dating,

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Speaker 2: and now I'm just really good for me. I'm not

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Speaker 2: good out there. Thank you Send me to a farm,

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Speaker 2: be so happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hit up Chris. Thanks so much for listening

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