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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on.

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Speaker 3: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty the Daily Podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran, and it is Yes.

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Speaker 1: What day is it?

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Speaker 2: It's always Monday or Friday in my head when we're together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but also just it is It's like, oh, it's Monday, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the Sunday scaries?

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Speaker 3: No? I Monday is probably one of my favorite days.

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Speaker 3: What I love Mondays?

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Speaker 2: Tell me what I don't like Anyway, that's a really

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Speaker 2: sad song and no one will know it because they're

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Speaker 2: not as old as me.

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Speaker 1: What do we do today?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so every Monday we answer your questions and we

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Speaker 3: come up with a row coost tac. Last week it

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Speaker 3: was about baking but not under the eyes. No, finally

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Speaker 3: enough mine was above the eyes but not baking.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Today we have two fantastic questions. As ever, later on

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Speaker 3: in the episode, we have got a question that just

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Speaker 3: made Lee go no, And then the first question. Actually

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Speaker 1: App No, We've got some good advice. I couldn't help,

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Speaker 1: but Wonder asked me anything You ask many.

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Speaker 2: Questions, Caitlin Emailda, She said, Hi, ladies, there seems to

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Speaker 2: be lots of info on skincare products that are not

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Speaker 2: safe or not recommended for use during pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: But what about makeup?

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Speaker 2: The ingredients don't seem so obvious or easy to interpret.

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Speaker 2: Are there any brands that are generally considered safe or

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Speaker 2: to be avoided when shopping at Mecca, Sophora, Priceline or

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Speaker 2: chemist ware House, particularly because lots of products now incorporate skincare.

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Speaker 2: Looking for a nice primer, skin tint or light foundation setting,

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Speaker 2: powder setting spray and tubular mascara that I won't be

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Speaker 2: second guessing but also make me feel a bit well

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Speaker 2: put together when leaving the house each day.

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Speaker 1: Set the scene.

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Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight year and twenty three weeks pregnant, with

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Speaker 2: no major changes to my fair skin. My skin is

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Speaker 2: generally clear, a bit of texture, combo dry now heading

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I hate that everyone has an opinion and thinks

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Speaker 3: that they know everything because.

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Speaker 1: You don't mean this about our lovely friend, No, I

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Speaker 1: mean this.

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Speaker 3: Why does she think this? Who on earth has told

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Speaker 3: her or made her think otherwise? Because there is not

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Speaker 3: one makeup product on the market that can't be used

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Speaker 3: when pregnant or breastfeeding correct, and any brand that's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: them completely because.

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Speaker 1: That is scam ungreen. It's just marketing exactly.

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Speaker 2: So what you'll find we're going to link in the

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Speaker 2: show notes to mother Safe, which is fantastic resource. They've

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Speaker 2: got PDFs on pretty much everything, and they've got a

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Speaker 3: You can can't use exactly, which is pretty much just

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Speaker 3: the only thing you cannot use beauty wise is prescription

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Speaker 3: retinoids and hydroqernone and then to be safe over the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, which is vitamin ace. So the reason

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Speaker 2: go wrong, So it's not that we know they're not safe,

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Speaker 2: we just haven't been able to test as a community.

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Speaker 2: I would avoid those in my skincare. If you're really worried,

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Speaker 2: I would use over the counter retinol. I wouldn't mind,

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Speaker 2: but it's up to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the mother Safe does say that that's fine. It's

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Speaker 2: And the Mother's Safe document is really good because it

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Speaker 2: I guess I've got just some great recommendations that are

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Speaker 2: full face. It's the Mega Cosmetica in a good light

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Speaker 2: face tint. It's SBF thirty. It's forty five dollars and

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Speaker 2: You want a setting powder, this is an organic one,

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Speaker 2: organic mineral setting powder is really great, Kelly, and I

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Speaker 2: call them like little trampolines. It's like a loose powder,

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Speaker 2: we went in. Yeah, I was feral. A beautiful setting

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Speaker 2: It's like an Underie pencil. They've got the watermelon fresh

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Speaker 1: You know I've tried that. It's the best. I didn't

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Speaker 1: other way. I shouldn't love it, Kelly.

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Speaker 2: I need to try to get okay, long story short,

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Speaker 2: everything is safe, but if you worry, to take them

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Speaker 2: Hannah sent us a DM on Instagram. Why should we

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Speaker 2: not decant sunscreen into other containers? I was hoping to

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Well, we know I love decanting, so if you know

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Speaker 2: that is true, but we also know that you will passionate, passionate.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like a little decanting queen.

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Speaker 2: rigorous testing, very expensive testing, Yes, through the TGA Therapeutic

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Speaker 2: And because sunscreen is quite active in that it's got

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Speaker 2: So it's gone through rigorous stability testing. If you then

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Speaker 3: It's so excited expensive. So unless you're like buying there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just take you know, you don't have

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Speaker 2: the Life Surf Saving Club. But if you are going

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Speaker 2: will need a full size sunscreen and for your face sunscreen.

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Speaker 2: I mean some do come in minis, but even then

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Speaker 2: need all of your sunscreen. There's no point decanting.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree? I completely agree.

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Speaker 3: the year, though, I think you can do it, but

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Speaker 3: not as your primary sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, if it's like your makeup on top

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Speaker 3: So what I did was because I knew that there

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Speaker 3: going to You did carry on.

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Speaker 1: I did carry on, but one of my.

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Speaker 3: Girlfriends was bringing over some extra SBF for me because

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Speaker 1: Own little knkok Oh god, not of sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: Well, I put sunscreen in it, but then it was

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Speaker 3: never going to be my primary sunscreen, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So it was a spray bottle and I put in

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Speaker 3: like a beautiful oil, some shimmer.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I put in it.

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Speaker 3: I did put a bit of SPF and it I

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Speaker 3: was like, why not a little bit of extra?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: And then can I just say I actually forgot about

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Speaker 3: was their highest selling shoot, like the Return of Investment.

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Speaker 1: To date, because her skin was so juicy they used this.

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Speaker 3: She was like, oh my god, I said, use this

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Speaker 1: But when not.

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Speaker 3: Endorsing that as our sun Oh no, that wasn't my sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I'm a really good scientist myself.

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Speaker 2: No, but you'll like go to the supermarket and you

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Speaker 2: ge see cancer Council for you know, two hundred meals,

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Speaker 2: three hundred meals, whatever those body ones are.

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Speaker 1: You will go through that absolutely exactly. Oh up next our.

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Speaker 2: Host hacks and we've got your slipped back hand lifts.

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Speaker 1: What a new makeup packs? All right, kel, tell me

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Speaker 1: about your nude lip. Smart nude lip.

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Speaker 2: I can't actually do a nude lip, or what I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean you can't do it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a friend who does a nude lip,

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Speaker 2: but she does a nude lip like it. It's not foundation,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. So some people it looks fine,

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Speaker 1: I've put my foundation on my lips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I look a bit dead. Okay, what's

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Speaker 3: So with a nude lip, this isn't really about finding

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Speaker 3: So when you're lining your lip, don't line the entire

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Speaker 1: Estate in quarters.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the bottom lip in quarter, sorry, the top

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Speaker 1: Okay, So like the half in the middle, the half.

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Speaker 3: In the middle you want to like smudge it along

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Speaker 1: Okay, so like the qufin's bow.

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Speaker 3: And a little bit outside, And why aren't we doing

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Speaker 1: Because it looks silly? Does it look overlined?

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Speaker 3: It looks overlined, It looks unnatural, and it looks clown

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're going for that these are my lips.

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Speaker 1: And what if you're doing a red though, please, Well

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Speaker 3: But even then I was thinking about it, I actually

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Speaker 3: still probably wouldn't completely line because sometimes line of feathers.

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Speaker 3: What I do is I get like an angled brush

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Speaker 1: From the bullet.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly, this is so interesting. I must go and

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Speaker 3: I just go blah, yeah, So I just with a

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's clowny. I need to just white mop stick off. Please.

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Speaker 1: So lazy with her nude lip that she got them tattooed.

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Speaker 1: It's true, mine are tattooed on.

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Speaker 2: Mine is the best best way to get a slip

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Speaker 2: out of the water vibes.

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Speaker 1: Oh like the wet hair. Look, yes, have you ever

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Speaker 1: done this? I don't know, doesn't say what you've done. Lube,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it is the best. Can I tell you?

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Speaker 2: I like this at Cosmo when I was on a

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Speaker 2: But recently, Mamamia, we got sent a humongous box of

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone was like, alright, Lee, we don't really need

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Speaker 1: It'll stay in place.

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Speaker 2: it's so good. We used to use it on shoots

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Speaker 2: That black tape received you can get, i know from

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you actually heard of the low hair stylist backstage

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Speaker 1: It's so good. So and then the cameras turn on

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Speaker 2: Of hair, yeah exactly, it's really good. And then you

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Speaker 2: On that note, thank you for listening, and don't forget.

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Speaker 1: You can also watch some.

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Speaker 2: Of our episodes on YouTube so you can see all

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Speaker 2: of the things they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Not today's episode though, because no, well no one needs

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Speaker 3: to see Lee with a loube.

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Speaker 1: I didn't bring my loub.

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Speaker 2: This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood,

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Speaker 2: with audio production by Teegan Sadler Bye