WEBVTT - Our Best Reccos Of 2025 — Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to another Mia podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to a special drop of Mamma Mia

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<v Speaker 2>out Loud.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Hollywayne Right, I'm Amelia Lester.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Jesse Stevens, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Four of us here. There are four of us gathered

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<v Speaker 2>here today for a very special reason. We are doing

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<v Speaker 2>two episodes that round up all our best recommendations.

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<v Speaker 4>To be There are a lot of fresh ones as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Amelia isn't normally on Friday, so she never

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<v Speaker 2>gets to do recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a shame because I love losting people around. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can I just say having four of us in one spot?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how the royal family has these rules that

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<v Speaker 1>the people at the top of the succession ladder can't

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<v Speaker 1>travel together in.

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<v Speaker 3>Case there's a playing crash. This worries missus. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>going to say it.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope no one has an illness.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if anything goes really tits.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, she could one by herself.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the most terrifying detail is that Mayo would have

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<v Speaker 5>to step in.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've gathered up recommendations ones either our favorites from

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<v Speaker 2>ones we gave you this year or fresh E's for

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<v Speaker 2>Cross two episodes, and we're going to take turns and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start with movies. Jesse Stevens, would you

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<v Speaker 2>like to kick off?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Mine is a Netflix documentary that was the best Netflix

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<v Speaker 5>documentary I watched all year. If you haven't got round

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<v Speaker 5>to each.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse, you watch how many Netflix documentaries do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you watched this year?

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon I watched two a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, easy, more.

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<v Speaker 5>Than more than yeah, and most of them are fine,

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<v Speaker 5>but this one, can.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Poop Cruise.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that was great.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not that, but I love Poop Cruise. I will

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<v Speaker 5>second that recommendation. It was Tighten the Ocean Gate Submersible

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<v Speaker 5>disaster documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a second, we are kicking off our recommendations

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<v Speaker 2>special for the festive season with the documentary Submarine Exploded.

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<v Speaker 2>Several people was very sad, Jesse stee. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>also like, I was so obsessed with that story.

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<v Speaker 7>There was no way of knowing were Titled was going

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<v Speaker 7>to fail, but it was a mathematical certainty that it

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<v Speaker 7>would fail. Stockton saw an opportunity to restart tourist visits

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<v Speaker 7>to Titanic.

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<v Speaker 2>Stockton fully believed in what he was doing and that

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<v Speaker 2>it would work.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to fame to fuel these ego theme.

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<v Speaker 7>I have no desire to die.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand this kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of risk, and I thought Stockton was a borderline psychopath.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you manage a person like that who.

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<v Speaker 2>Owns the company?

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<v Speaker 5>The way that the headlines were coming out and there

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<v Speaker 5>were rumors that you could hear tapping, and there was

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<v Speaker 5>the timer of just like these people are stuck. I

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<v Speaker 5>find something about submersibles so innately terrifying that the idea

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<v Speaker 5>that these people went down and something went horrifically wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>There is so much more to that story in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of it. There is fault and there is hubris involved,

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<v Speaker 5>and like the narrative in the way it's put together

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<v Speaker 5>and the people who tried to blow the whistle, it

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<v Speaker 5>is just fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you all seen it yet?

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<v Speaker 3>I have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's as good as poop cruise.

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<v Speaker 3>It just I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I did love about it was that there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of people who, like you say, were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to solve this disaster waiting to happen, and they did,

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<v Speaker 1>including an Australian. If nobody saves me correctly, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just won't listen.

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<v Speaker 4>To exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so so good. So that documentary is my

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<v Speaker 5>number one Netflix stocker.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we share one of our number one

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<v Speaker 2>I came through in a special extra so our joint

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<v Speaker 2>favorite movie. And I have to caveat this that I

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<v Speaker 2>realized this year I went to the movies, probably less

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<v Speaker 2>than I've ever been to the movie. Movie tickets are

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<v Speaker 2>quiet expensive, and also it just I don't live someone

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<v Speaker 2>near movies anymore. But I think I'm also representative of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. Unfortunately. I've just it takes a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But this movie was so good and it was sinners.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I've.

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<v Speaker 8>Been all over this world. I've seen me and die ways.

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<v Speaker 8>I ain't even know as possible. Lave you, brother, be careful.

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<v Speaker 8>I will with all the things that I've seen. I

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<v Speaker 8>ain't ever seen no demons, no ghosts.

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<v Speaker 1>No man.

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<v Speaker 9>Feel Now, I think this movie made it in my letterbox.

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<v Speaker 6>Top four? Are we all on letterbox here?

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<v Speaker 2>No? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>Letterbox is also people are using it as a dating

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<v Speaker 9>app now, but it's kind of like good Reads for movies.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's an app that you have on your phone

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<v Speaker 9>every time you watch a movie, you rate and review it,

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<v Speaker 9>and then you can follow other people and like their

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<v Speaker 9>ratings and reviews, and on your profile you choose your

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<v Speaker 9>favorite four movies of all time and sin it's made.

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<v Speaker 1>It in Okay, can Somehow? I have literally never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Can You tell Me Everything Spill?

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<v Speaker 9>So it's directed by Ryan Coolidge and it stars Michael B.

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan.

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<v Speaker 9>He plays twins. And I think it's sat in the

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<v Speaker 9>nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not, Yes, it's not. It's like in the twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, like way when Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 4>Seventies way back, because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's super old.

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<v Speaker 9>And yeah, it's a very vampire it's like horror, but

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<v Speaker 9>camp it is so good. And there was a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of contention around it because I feel like we're in

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<v Speaker 9>this age where the movies that make money right now

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<v Speaker 9>are movies that are either a franchise or they're like

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<v Speaker 9>a remake of an IP, and this was an original

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<v Speaker 9>IP and it made billions. It did so so well.

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<v Speaker 9>You can now stream its on HBO.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a horror? It's about vampires, so it sounds scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scary, but it's kind of note. The broad

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<v Speaker 2>story is yes, Michael B. Jordan places these twins. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a racial story, it said, in the

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<v Speaker 2>Deep South. It's hard to explain, but basically it's about

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<v Speaker 2>jazz music and music and vampires. And it is so

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<v Speaker 2>original and funny. It's so funny and sexy and good

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<v Speaker 2>and just like Edge of Your Seat, it was great music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the soundtrack is extraordinary. It's one of those really original

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<v Speaker 2>movies in a familiar genre like vampires. Oh, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a very Can.

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<v Speaker 5>I ask a question about it because I watched it

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<v Speaker 5>on a plane. I really enjoyed it, but I desperately

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to then read analysis. Is it like an agree

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<v Speaker 5>for something? Well, I think yes, yeah, but I feel

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<v Speaker 5>as though it had this deeper meaning that I maybe

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<v Speaker 5>didn't quite get.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't tell you what that was, I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's obviously about racial politics and stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the Deep South in that time, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>about a whole lot of things. But it's also just

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of monster movie that made it through. As

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<v Speaker 2>em said, like everything else is this very bland, cookie

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<v Speaker 2>cutter world, and this just broke through and it did

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<v Speaker 2>massive box office. It was one of the biggest movies

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year, which surprised everybody, but it shouldn't surprise

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<v Speaker 2>anyone because it was a really good time.

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<v Speaker 6>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 9>I've also got another movie suggestion because I knew we

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<v Speaker 9>were going to tag team this one Superman, like the

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<v Speaker 9>New Come on now, really the New Superman film.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like woke Superman, right, this is what I've heard,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a good Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>The most powerful being on planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 7>We finally meet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as planned, I'll destroy you. And of course that

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<v Speaker 2>reporter you always do interviews with.

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<v Speaker 3>Who raised you as a child, I'll kill them too.

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<v Speaker 9>So I feel like, if you're a big superhero nerd

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<v Speaker 9>like me, DC haven't been doing that well.

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<v Speaker 6>She is, Yeah, I think like Marvel's.

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<v Speaker 9>Really overtaken everything. DC hasn't been doing too well. But

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<v Speaker 9>then James Gunn directed the Newest Superman movie. And this

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<v Speaker 9>movie has been done so many times, and this one

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<v Speaker 9>just completely cut through because they just stuck to what

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<v Speaker 9>they know and it's just we just want a hot

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<v Speaker 9>man who muscles, who is so the movie stars David

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<v Speaker 9>corn Sweat. Oh, it's also on HBO, but I watched

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<v Speaker 9>it at.

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<v Speaker 6>The Imax and insane. It's just like a superhero movie.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the kids, Take the kids.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Amelia.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you asked. I have two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit cheating, but they're both in the

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<v Speaker 1>same genre, and that genre is music biopics. I love

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<v Speaker 1>my music biopics. So in twenty twenty, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I got really into sport, Like I was watching sport

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries when we're all at home and I turn to

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<v Speaker 1>my partner and say things.

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<v Speaker 3>Like sports really interesting, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight men love it when you say that. But music

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<v Speaker 1>is really interesting too. And I have two movies to recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is Bob Dylan's biopic, which is called A

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<v Speaker 1>Complete Unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Starring my friend Tim.

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<v Speaker 3>Your friend Timmy loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>You trapped all the way from Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the catch you.

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<v Speaker 7>Spoke if you're traveling in the North country?

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<v Speaker 4>Fair, I see, no one wants to hear when you

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<v Speaker 4>can't rule?

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<v Speaker 2>Last month?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like your songs.

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<v Speaker 6>'s hit heavy the boardline?

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<v Speaker 2>Who wrote this?

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<v Speaker 8>He did? Remember me?

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<v Speaker 6>How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>John Bayers?

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<v Speaker 2>Because she's pretty sings pretty ones, maybe a little two,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty truly love your signs are like an oil painting

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<v Speaker 2>and the dentist's office, the oscars over. That wasn't Amelia.

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<v Speaker 2>He was brilliant, fabulous. I didn't like it. Oh, I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched it like three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Please hold let me get through it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear White. Bruce Springsteen's biopic Delivered Me from Nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>starring my favorite actor, Jeremy Allen White, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to say about Jeremy Allen White, please leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. It's not a great movie. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I like about music biopics. The steaks are extremely low.

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<v Speaker 1>The climactic scene of the Bob Dylan movie No Spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>alert required, is whether or not Ed Norton is going

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed in plugging in his guitar into the speaker.

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<v Speaker 3>That is like this scene where you like abiding your nails.

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<v Speaker 3>You're so scared. Is he going to play his electric

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<v Speaker 3>guitar or not?

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<v Speaker 5>I love Genius documentary and it fell into that too.

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<v Speaker 5>I just like watching a genius exist.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about the Bruce Springstea movie is that it

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<v Speaker 1>proves the point that men would rather release an acoustic

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<v Speaker 1>album than go to therapy, and that's an important realization

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<v Speaker 1>to have, and so I just recommend them both for

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<v Speaker 1>edifying reasons and also because they're very low stakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, why didn't you like the Bob Dylan movie?

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<v Speaker 6>He just was a bit of a dick, was me?

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're allowed just me.

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<v Speaker 6>We need to stop calling men who are me.

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<v Speaker 2>This could take like I didn't even know any of genius. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we shall move along. O. The one I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>throw in, apart from Sinners, that I really enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 2>year was a real pain. Oh yes, directed by Jesse Adenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>one Care and Kulkin and Oscar.

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<v Speaker 3>Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonner is not available.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Benji, I just got to the airport. I really

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<v Speaker 3>hope you left the ready air God you made. It's

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<v Speaker 3>because I got some good ship from when we land. Wait,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not like taking weed into Poland, are you yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Benji?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't give a shit about that stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think they very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you give a shit?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Davers and I are cousins.

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<v Speaker 6>We used to be joined at the hip our grandma

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<v Speaker 6>who is from here.

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<v Speaker 3>So data range for us.

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<v Speaker 6>To join this geriatric Polish tour.

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<v Speaker 3>With you fine people.

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<v Speaker 8>That's where we go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about family. That again sounds as cheerful as your

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<v Speaker 2>documentary going on a Holocaust tour of Poland. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy, but it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>The dynamic is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jesse wrote it and directed it. Not our Jesse,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Eisenberg, and I love that so much. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>are moving on, Jesse, what are we doing there?

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<v Speaker 5>Coming up from beauty products to books? We are about

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<v Speaker 5>to drop all of our favorite recommendation okay, Holly, next

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<v Speaker 5>we are on two beauty products.

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<v Speaker 4>What was your number one beauty production?

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<v Speaker 2>Really hard to pick one. I know we're doing more

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<v Speaker 2>in our second one, but like, and so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what did I learn this year in a beauty space sense?

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<v Speaker 2>And two things are when you are older, everything is

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<v Speaker 2>about base everything right. I mean, I know it, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it always is, but when I was young, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really care so much. And my number one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I've loved this year is my foundation, which is expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>It is why I have not recommended it on the

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<v Speaker 2>show before, but people have often said, like, oh, your

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<v Speaker 2>skin looks nice, that's nice foundation. This is why it

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<v Speaker 2>is one hundred and thirty dollars worth of fancy Mecca

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<v Speaker 2>based foundation. I discovered this year the Ellis Face.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you spell that?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's e L Lis faas Ellis face, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>called skin veil, right. It's medium coverage and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>glowy and it's like one of those sort of serumie

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<v Speaker 2>ones and you can build it up. It's blurry. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what it's supposed to do, is blur. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>how you find a product, You try it and you

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<v Speaker 2>just go oh yes, and then so much so that

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<v Speaker 2>right to the bottom of the bottle and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to immediately replace it because I can't wear anything else now.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't last you a long time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, because I wear it on work

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<v Speaker 2>days mostly and I will tend to reapply in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just because we're filming and things. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like a matt stick to your face.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's lighter than that, although you can build it,

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<v Speaker 2>but for me, I just love it.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think listeners need to know is that Holly

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<v Speaker 1>is the glowiest person in this office. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can on that, so I'd suggest following it recommendation.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love it. But just throwing in a cheeky

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<v Speaker 2>because it is expensive and I'm sorry about that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm throwing in the other thing I learned this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is blush. So I never used to wear blush,

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<v Speaker 2>right really, and now I'm all about the cheek so

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<v Speaker 2>am I Amelia and I've discussed it on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the show. You got to put it high, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, you got to basically put it on your forehead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been putting shitloads of blusher on this year. I've

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<v Speaker 2>leaned in and I love them all. My favorite one

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<v Speaker 2>is one from Tart called Marrack. Why do they all

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<v Speaker 2>have such silly Namescouver Marracooja juicy multi stick, which is Tart,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is a dupe of that by m CO

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<v Speaker 2>called the Summer Stick Lip and Cheek Cream, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like ten dollars, so such a cream based I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>put a powder on my face for ten years. That

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<v Speaker 2>powders do not go near this. Ever, It's cream blush

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<v Speaker 2>and I love.

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<v Speaker 4>It all right, I'm going to go next.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine is actually something I haven't recommended on this show yet,

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<v Speaker 5>and Lucra and I have been going to a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of open house.

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<v Speaker 4>It's looking for a place, been a disaster. That's not

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<v Speaker 4>the story.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been stealing things from them.

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<v Speaker 5>The story is that I've been going to open houses

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<v Speaker 5>and I walk in and sometimes I smell this smell

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<v Speaker 5>and I go, I want to buy this house. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not even mocked, but there is this smell. It is

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<v Speaker 5>the best smell in the world. It smells clean, it

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<v Speaker 5>smells expensive. It's just this freshness. And I ended up

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<v Speaker 5>saying to this real estate agent, you gotta tell me

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<v Speaker 5>what that is, and they said, it is the bays

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<v Speaker 5>room spray.

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<v Speaker 4>The dip teak.

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<v Speaker 2>One dip teek is the fanciest smell in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the fanciest smell in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>I need to smell met.

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<v Speaker 5>But what you need to know about this room spray

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<v Speaker 5>is you spray it in a room. And this is

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<v Speaker 5>what the real estate agent told me. That room becomes

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<v Speaker 5>double the price exactly. You will exponentially increase the value

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<v Speaker 5>of your home. But that scent will stick in that

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<v Speaker 5>room for weeks. Wow, like even more effective than the candle.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the room spray. And she said that she

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<v Speaker 5>was laughing, that that's what they spray when the owner

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<v Speaker 5>has a dog and they're trying to neutralize any doggie

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<v Speaker 5>smell that the person can't have anymore, so they just

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<v Speaker 5>spray it and I can't. It is just if you

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<v Speaker 5>want your house to smell incredible, it is the bays

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<v Speaker 5>be A i e. S Room spray diptick. Yes, it's expensive,

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<v Speaker 5>is one hundred and sixteen dollars, but what a great gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Dip teak candles which are very expensive and posh. They

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<v Speaker 2>just smell like I often get once with my birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>once a year from my friend Tory, and I die amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>The fig one is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Bradshaw's candle, as depicted in the original Sex in

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<v Speaker 1>the City was the Bayze candle?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it dippy?

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<v Speaker 5>And I also wanted to throw in my bedroom hair.

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<v Speaker 5>Kevin Murphy recommendation forty nine to ninety five or basically

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<v Speaker 5>the beauty hack I learned was that when you do waves,

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<v Speaker 5>you do any texture in your hair, you want a

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<v Speaker 5>texturizing spray rather than like a hair spray that makes

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<v Speaker 5>it hard. So your texturizing spray or your bedroom hair,

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<v Speaker 5>you wake up the next day and it's still fresh.

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<v Speaker 9>Smart, Okay, I am recommending something I recommended before, and

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<v Speaker 9>it's probably the one product I always get complimented on.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm wearing it right now. It is my lipstick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh my god, I'm so glad you people.

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<v Speaker 9>It is the Sephora Collection new cream lipstain in the

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<v Speaker 9>shade Naughty Burgundy.

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<v Speaker 6>It's twenty six signature shade.

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<v Speaker 9>Signature shade shade like this year, Like I think, I

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<v Speaker 9>don't want to do you find.

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<v Speaker 5>What your signature shade is because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what looks good on me.

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<v Speaker 9>Honestly, I found this by accident. I was just looking

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<v Speaker 9>for a lipstick because I have a really big bottom lip.

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<v Speaker 9>Everything I eat and drink it always touches my chin

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<v Speaker 9>and I get a huge mark on my che I

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<v Speaker 9>was just looking for a lipstick that would stop doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>And this one doesn't budge talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To me about the stainness.

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<v Speaker 9>It stays forever, but like to the point where it

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<v Speaker 9>is really hard when you take your makeup off, Like

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<v Speaker 9>I always have a bit of residue.

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<v Speaker 6>The next morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Is it in a bullet or it's a doe foot

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<v Speaker 9>So it's like a little cream lipstick. It goes on Matt,

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<v Speaker 9>but then it has like a bit of a satiny finish.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes I put a gloss on top.

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<v Speaker 9>Of it, but it never looks dry, whereas I feel

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<v Speaker 9>like it doesn't feel dry. Yeah, Like it's not like

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<v Speaker 9>those I feel like the Kylie Jenna lip kit, like

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<v Speaker 9>where we just dry your lips and you would see

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<v Speaker 9>the flakiness of it.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't do that, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't transfer on to teeth or anything because it's

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<v Speaker 4>so stays.

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<v Speaker 9>It is the best. And they have so many shades.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they have around like twenty six shades.

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<v Speaker 3>So good, so glamorous.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna do it, Okay, Amelia want you Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is for elder millennials listening, because, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I identify and look. I need to give

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<v Speaker 1>us all a pep talk elder millennials listening. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're stuck in to make up rut, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to break out of it because we're not

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<v Speaker 1>dead yet. In fact, we're quite young by some metrics,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not by MS, but we are quite young and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to step it up and refresh our makeup routines.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider this your reminders. So Erica Taylor's YouTube videos and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram videos and TikTok videos are very good and instructional,

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<v Speaker 1>and she talks about how as you age, your face

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<v Speaker 1>appears longer. Whether or not it is longer or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not clear on that, but the poor is babies

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<v Speaker 1>have really wide faces, and then as you get longer,

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<v Speaker 1>your face appears longer and less wide. So what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do is compensate for the fact that your

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<v Speaker 1>face is less wide by elongating the length of your face. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>horizon the horizontal width of your face. And one key

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<v Speaker 1>way to do that is through eyeliner. And she says

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go heavy on the eyeliner and extend

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<v Speaker 1>it out beyond the eye to horizontally elongate the face.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is a dangerous game. Amelia.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes technique, it takes I know you're an eyeliner

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<v Speaker 1>queen yourself, so I appreciate that warning.

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<v Speaker 3>But Erica can talk you through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And one key tip is that the dip of your

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<v Speaker 1>eye on the bottom follow that up with the wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense, So it's as if your eye

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<v Speaker 1>became longer, you follow the dip. And the one that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is absolutely fool proof is Selena Gomez's The

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<v Speaker 1>Rare beauty eye liner. So is it like a liquid, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's liquid and you got to shake it up to

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<v Speaker 1>get the pigment. Her reb beauty line is designed to

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<v Speaker 1>be very sort of ergonomic, like easy to use for

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<v Speaker 1>people who might have restricted or limited mobility in their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't happen to have that, but I am not

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<v Speaker 1>very skilled at makeup. And the eyeliner is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>fatter than your normal eyeliner, so it's easier to hold,

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<v Speaker 1>easier to control.

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<v Speaker 2>And then is it a little brush.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little ink brush. Yeah, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>you're a.

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<v Speaker 1>Calligrapher or something she's scamming. And what I love about

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<v Speaker 1>it is the glide. Erica says, you've got a stamp,

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<v Speaker 1>not draw, But it does have a very nice glide

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<v Speaker 1>to It doesn't feel like it's tugging on your eye.

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<v Speaker 6>What does damn not draw me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how most people do eyeliner by holding their

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<v Speaker 1>eye with their finger, holding the skin near the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, that distorts the shape of your eye. You

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<v Speaker 1>just look at your eye in the mirror and you

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<v Speaker 1>stamp onto the lash line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what makeup artistone yep, Okay, this is contentious because God,

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<v Speaker 2>I found this very hard to pick. We're going into books,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with you and me. Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>I recommended this on the podcast I think earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a book by Yulan Kwan and it's called How

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<v Speaker 9>to End a Love Story. It is one of my

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<v Speaker 9>favorite romance novels. I think I've read it about three

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<v Speaker 9>times this year so far. It's about this woman named

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<v Speaker 9>Helen who's an author and her book is about to

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<v Speaker 9>get made into a TV production, and working on the

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<v Speaker 9>TV production is this guy named Grant. And Grant and

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<v Speaker 9>Helen have some history because when Helen was younger, her

0:22:38.714 --> 0:22:41.793
<v Speaker 9>sister died in a tragic car accident and Grant was

0:22:41.794 --> 0:22:44.553
<v Speaker 9>at the wheel. And the story follows her having to

0:22:44.634 --> 0:22:47.714
<v Speaker 9>work with this man who pretty much ruined her life,

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<v Speaker 9>and it just goes into this really intricate love story

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<v Speaker 9>and how that time in your thirties where she's like

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<v Speaker 9>an Asian woman and she's getting all this pressure from

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<v Speaker 9>her family to settle down, and how she can bring

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<v Speaker 9>in someone who was so hurtful to her family back

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<v Speaker 9>into their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I recognize the name of that author? Have they

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<v Speaker 4>written anything else?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to look up what else I've written, because

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<v Speaker 5>that's yeah, that's the name I recognize.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just one of those books that I read it

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<v Speaker 9>in a single day because it's just so light and

0:23:16.074 --> 0:23:17.314
<v Speaker 9>easy and it's a bit funny.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's just I just find different.

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<v Speaker 9>Types of love stories, and especially love stories around people

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<v Speaker 9>my age just so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're such a romantic, my lin, it's ruining your life.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, we'll have an interiment that's every Friday.

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<v Speaker 9>Every Friday, we'll always find a topic about my love life, Amelia.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Book if you're in a bit of a reading rut,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't seem to find anything. It's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a short story collection, so you don't need a really

0:23:45.434 --> 0:23:48.554
<v Speaker 1>long concentration span. It's by a favorite author of mine,

0:23:48.594 --> 0:23:52.234
<v Speaker 1>Cootis Sittenfeld. Her most famous book is probably her debut,

0:23:52.274 --> 0:23:54.273
<v Speaker 1>which was called Prep, which is about life in the

0:23:54.314 --> 0:23:56.114
<v Speaker 1>New England boarding school in a seat of coming of

0:23:56.154 --> 0:23:59.674
<v Speaker 1>age story. But I love her writing style. It's very unadorned,

0:23:59.754 --> 0:24:02.793
<v Speaker 1>it's very low key, it's very sardonic. I like books

0:24:02.794 --> 0:24:04.994
<v Speaker 1>with plot, like I don't like being caught up in

0:24:05.194 --> 0:24:08.234
<v Speaker 1>writing over plot, and she's very much plot driven. Her

0:24:08.234 --> 0:24:10.714
<v Speaker 1>short story collection. It's her second short story collection. It's

0:24:10.714 --> 0:24:13.594
<v Speaker 1>called Show Don't Tell. It's stories about middle aged women

0:24:13.594 --> 0:24:15.634
<v Speaker 1>who think a lot but aren't necessarily given a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of attention by the outside world. They have a lot

0:24:18.114 --> 0:24:20.754
<v Speaker 1>of really interesting inner monologues, and she explores us in

0:24:20.754 --> 0:24:25.874
<v Speaker 1>a monologues. I both cried sad tears and tears of

0:24:26.114 --> 0:24:29.354
<v Speaker 1>literal joy while reading these stories. They take you on

0:24:29.394 --> 0:24:32.234
<v Speaker 1>an emotional rollercoaster about you end the book feeling calm

0:24:32.314 --> 0:24:33.034
<v Speaker 1>and uplifted.

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<v Speaker 2>I just adore her.

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<v Speaker 6>She read romantic comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that book.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's really good at lots of different things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to jump in. I found this really hard

0:24:48.834 --> 0:24:51.514
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know how to pick the best of this.

0:24:51.754 --> 0:24:54.474
<v Speaker 2>Because the tactic I went is I was like, WA's

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<v Speaker 2>the book I think about the most that I read

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<v Speaker 2>this year, And it's actually the first book I read

0:24:59.114 --> 0:25:01.354
<v Speaker 2>this year. But it's not new, it's really old. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I would throw that one in anyway, right,

0:25:03.474 --> 0:25:05.874
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes you want to read an old book. I

0:25:05.914 --> 0:25:08.074
<v Speaker 2>got recommended by somebody I don't know who, a very

0:25:08.114 --> 0:25:12.114
<v Speaker 2>slight book called Family Happiness by this writer called Laurie Colwyn,

0:25:12.154 --> 0:25:15.034
<v Speaker 2>and she is so good. Oh I got to die.

0:25:15.114 --> 0:25:18.434
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't really know her. But she's an American writer.

0:25:18.594 --> 0:25:20.833
<v Speaker 2>This book was written in nineteen eighty two. That's how

0:25:20.874 --> 0:25:23.874
<v Speaker 2>old it was. You people weren't born. But like, she

0:25:24.154 --> 0:25:26.154
<v Speaker 2>writes about food and things. But this is a very

0:25:26.194 --> 0:25:30.114
<v Speaker 2>slight novel about a woman in a family in New

0:25:30.194 --> 0:25:35.034
<v Speaker 2>York who appears to have everything very picture perfectly in order.

0:25:35.114 --> 0:25:38.194
<v Speaker 2>She's very enmeshed in her family. She's got the perfect

0:25:38.274 --> 0:25:40.194
<v Speaker 2>husband and the perfect kids, and the parents who live

0:25:40.234 --> 0:25:43.754
<v Speaker 2>around the corner, and yet she's having an affair. And

0:25:43.874 --> 0:25:47.513
<v Speaker 2>it is so good. It is the book that I

0:25:47.554 --> 0:25:49.474
<v Speaker 2>have thought about the most this year, even though it

0:25:49.554 --> 0:25:53.794
<v Speaker 2>was written however many years ago, that is forty odd years.

0:25:54.194 --> 0:25:56.154
<v Speaker 2>So that is the book that I think about the most.

0:25:56.154 --> 0:25:57.714
<v Speaker 2>And then I thought, what is the book that I

0:25:57.714 --> 0:26:02.513
<v Speaker 2>would give someone as a present, particularly a woman, maybe

0:26:02.714 --> 0:26:05.634
<v Speaker 2>someone older, that is new from this year, And that

0:26:05.714 --> 0:26:08.313
<v Speaker 2>for me is Deborah Oswald's One Hundred Years of Betty.

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<v Speaker 2>I recommended this on the show. It is an amazingly

0:26:11.874 --> 0:26:14.513
<v Speaker 2>well thought out book that basically tells the story of

0:26:14.554 --> 0:26:17.474
<v Speaker 2>an Australian woman's life called Betty, of course, who is

0:26:17.514 --> 0:26:19.513
<v Speaker 2>about to turn a hundred, and she looks back on

0:26:19.554 --> 0:26:21.914
<v Speaker 2>her whole life from when she was born in London

0:26:22.314 --> 0:26:24.553
<v Speaker 2>and grew up during the Blitz and then emigrated and

0:26:24.594 --> 0:26:28.594
<v Speaker 2>then all her different friendships and loves and political awakenings

0:26:28.594 --> 0:26:30.674
<v Speaker 2>and sexual awakenings and all this, and it follows her

0:26:30.674 --> 0:26:34.474
<v Speaker 2>through her life and it's just so good and deserves

0:26:34.554 --> 0:26:38.594
<v Speaker 2>so much applause because it's like, what a work. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Holy did you just sneak in two recommendations? You did?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry so anyway, have stopped talking now, But yes,

0:26:46.314 --> 0:26:48.354
<v Speaker 2>it's a great present book, one hundred years of Betty.

0:26:48.354 --> 0:26:50.994
<v Speaker 2>It's funny, it's cute, it's smart. Debra Oswald.

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<v Speaker 5>My book that I have thought about and thought about

0:26:55.314 --> 0:26:59.434
<v Speaker 5>and I just thought was a masterpiece was Elements by

0:26:59.514 --> 0:27:02.314
<v Speaker 5>John Boyne, which I recommended on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that one book, Jesse? Or is that food?

0:27:04.394 --> 0:27:07.914
<v Speaker 4>This is a genius that man understands capitalism? Jesse.

0:27:08.074 --> 0:27:10.754
<v Speaker 5>Some people went and bought Elements, which is a single book.

0:27:10.874 --> 0:27:13.634
<v Speaker 5>Jesse bought the four novellas individually and ended up spending

0:27:13.634 --> 0:27:15.273
<v Speaker 5>sixty dollars on what is one book?

0:27:15.354 --> 0:27:16.714
<v Speaker 6>Were they all released together?

0:27:17.274 --> 0:27:19.394
<v Speaker 5>I think that they were. But you can also buy

0:27:19.434 --> 0:27:20.914
<v Speaker 5>them separately, which I was.

0:27:20.834 --> 0:27:23.354
<v Speaker 3>Like, published, can you tell me what this is?

0:27:23.594 --> 0:27:29.394
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? So there are four novellas which are like Air, Water, Fire, Earth,

0:27:30.194 --> 0:27:31.954
<v Speaker 5>And when I heard that, I went I was all

0:27:31.994 --> 0:27:32.874
<v Speaker 5>a bit thinky isn't it.

0:27:32.874 --> 0:27:34.354
<v Speaker 6>I would have been like Avatar, Yeah.

0:27:34.274 --> 0:27:36.834
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. I was like, is this a

0:27:36.874 --> 0:27:37.794
<v Speaker 5>meditation on air?

0:27:37.874 --> 0:27:37.954
<v Speaker 7>Like?

0:27:37.994 --> 0:27:38.553
<v Speaker 4>I don't need that.

0:27:39.274 --> 0:27:42.833
<v Speaker 5>Really, it's about crime when I think about it. The

0:27:42.874 --> 0:27:47.554
<v Speaker 5>first one is about a woman whose husband perpetrated sex

0:27:47.594 --> 0:27:50.754
<v Speaker 5>crimes on he's a swim coach on his students, and

0:27:50.794 --> 0:27:51.674
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't go into that.

0:27:51.754 --> 0:27:52.594
<v Speaker 4>It's not super.

0:27:52.434 --> 0:27:56.594
<v Speaker 5>Graphic or detailed. It's actually about his wife and her culpability.

0:27:57.074 --> 0:28:00.434
<v Speaker 5>All the novellas are connected. The next one is about

0:28:00.914 --> 0:28:03.273
<v Speaker 5>like it'll connect someone who was on that island with

0:28:03.314 --> 0:28:08.834
<v Speaker 5>that woman, and he filmed a teammate in his football

0:28:08.834 --> 0:28:11.714
<v Speaker 5>team committing what we think is an active sexual assault,

0:28:11.754 --> 0:28:14.074
<v Speaker 5>and it follows that. And then the other one is

0:28:14.114 --> 0:28:18.033
<v Speaker 5>about a woman who is a perpetrator of sexual assault,

0:28:18.034 --> 0:28:20.634
<v Speaker 5>which I've never read a book from her perspective, like

0:28:20.674 --> 0:28:23.273
<v Speaker 5>it actually follows her. And then the last one is

0:28:23.314 --> 0:28:26.514
<v Speaker 5>one of her victims, and it all comes round and

0:28:26.554 --> 0:28:32.474
<v Speaker 5>like it's all interconnected. But he is the most beautiful,

0:28:32.634 --> 0:28:36.434
<v Speaker 5>insightful writer. I've never read a writer who can write

0:28:36.954 --> 0:28:40.194
<v Speaker 5>women as well as he writes men young old, like.

0:28:40.394 --> 0:28:43.154
<v Speaker 5>His versatility is insane. He wrote boy in the Stripe Pajamas,

0:28:43.194 --> 0:28:45.754
<v Speaker 5>so he is like a very well known writer, but

0:28:46.354 --> 0:28:47.394
<v Speaker 5>he is brilliant.

0:28:47.434 --> 0:28:48.514
<v Speaker 4>Elements by John Boyne.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we are coming back with our favorite free activity

0:28:52.954 --> 0:28:56.514
<v Speaker 2>or best hack, best activity, something that isn't necessarily something

0:28:56.514 --> 0:28:56.954
<v Speaker 2>to buy.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm going to go first, and this hack I've

0:29:02.514 --> 0:29:05.074
<v Speaker 9>talked about it on the podcast before. It kind of

0:29:05.114 --> 0:29:09.514
<v Speaker 9>crosses over with skincare, but it is my cleansing hack

0:29:09.634 --> 0:29:12.634
<v Speaker 9>where I literally sit in front of the TV. I

0:29:12.674 --> 0:29:15.234
<v Speaker 9>put on an episode of my favorite TV show, whether

0:29:15.274 --> 0:29:17.954
<v Speaker 9>it's like Friends or You Girl, something that's around fifteen

0:29:17.994 --> 0:29:19.994
<v Speaker 9>to twenty minutes long, and I just sit in front

0:29:19.994 --> 0:29:22.474
<v Speaker 9>of the TV and I use an oil cleanser and

0:29:22.514 --> 0:29:25.714
<v Speaker 9>I just cleanse my face and the amount of stuff

0:29:25.754 --> 0:29:28.994
<v Speaker 9>that comes out of my skin is crazy. But it's

0:29:29.034 --> 0:29:32.954
<v Speaker 9>like the only skincare technique I use that immediately leaves

0:29:33.074 --> 0:29:38.594
<v Speaker 9>my skin super soft and hydrated and just really really juicy.

0:29:38.754 --> 0:29:43.034
<v Speaker 1>How about you, Amelia, Mine is getting the newspaper delivered?

0:29:43.194 --> 0:29:45.074
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you've been doing this this year.

0:29:45.154 --> 0:29:50.594
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's honestly, what do you mean, it's what's the newspapers?

0:29:50.714 --> 0:29:51.034
<v Speaker 2>Is emna?

0:29:52.354 --> 0:29:55.594
<v Speaker 3>First, you shit on the Bob Dylan when.

0:29:57.794 --> 0:29:59.594
<v Speaker 1>This has been the thing I've done this year that

0:29:59.634 --> 0:30:03.634
<v Speaker 1>I think has done the most to help my general

0:30:03.674 --> 0:30:07.754
<v Speaker 1>disposition and temperament and mood in these very stress times.

0:30:08.434 --> 0:30:12.434
<v Speaker 1>I subscribed to my city's newspaper. It happens to be

0:30:12.474 --> 0:30:15.354
<v Speaker 1>the Sitney Morning Herald, but I'm sure you could pick

0:30:15.394 --> 0:30:17.794
<v Speaker 1>whichever newspaper. It could be delivered in your part of

0:30:17.834 --> 0:30:21.834
<v Speaker 1>Australia and it gets delivered to my front door in

0:30:21.874 --> 0:30:24.434
<v Speaker 1>plastic wraps or if it's raining, that's fine, it doesn't

0:30:24.474 --> 0:30:24.994
<v Speaker 1>get wet.

0:30:25.234 --> 0:30:28.034
<v Speaker 4>What time does a paper get It gets delivered early.

0:30:28.354 --> 0:30:30.274
<v Speaker 3>I would say before six.

0:30:32.594 --> 0:30:35.754
<v Speaker 2>This used to be a job that young people had.

0:30:35.834 --> 0:30:39.234
<v Speaker 3>Question it might be a robot.

0:30:38.834 --> 0:30:40.594
<v Speaker 4>I don't twelve year old.

0:30:40.954 --> 0:30:44.794
<v Speaker 3>But you're not seeing twelve year olds running around time. No,

0:30:44.834 --> 0:30:45.914
<v Speaker 3>it's a really good question.

0:30:46.554 --> 0:30:49.314
<v Speaker 1>And then you bring it inside it and you turn

0:30:49.394 --> 0:30:50.314
<v Speaker 1>the pages and.

0:30:50.234 --> 0:30:54.314
<v Speaker 3>You read it. Here's why it's good. Once you get

0:30:54.354 --> 0:30:56.754
<v Speaker 3>to the end of the newspaper, quite long, isn't it.

0:30:56.994 --> 0:30:58.954
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's got the news of the day

0:30:58.994 --> 0:31:01.154
<v Speaker 1>in it like there's a lot going on right now,

0:31:01.194 --> 0:31:03.794
<v Speaker 1>But you get to the end of the newspaper and

0:31:03.794 --> 0:31:06.394
<v Speaker 1>then you were done with the news for that day.

0:31:06.594 --> 0:31:08.674
<v Speaker 1>You know everything you need to know. In fact, you're

0:31:08.714 --> 0:31:11.274
<v Speaker 1>better informed than most people. But you don't need to

0:31:11.314 --> 0:31:13.994
<v Speaker 1>keep scrolling. You've actually hit the end of the news

0:31:14.034 --> 0:31:15.994
<v Speaker 1>for the day and a group of people have already

0:31:15.994 --> 0:31:19.154
<v Speaker 1>decided what you need to know. They've arranged it for you,

0:31:19.234 --> 0:31:21.074
<v Speaker 1>so you get a sense of what you really need

0:31:21.114 --> 0:31:23.714
<v Speaker 1>to know and what is nice to know, and you

0:31:23.754 --> 0:31:26.754
<v Speaker 1>don't infinitely scroll all day because you've already read the news.

0:31:26.994 --> 0:31:31.394
<v Speaker 2>So m the most important news is on the front page.

0:31:31.274 --> 0:31:32.074
<v Speaker 2>I got it.

0:31:32.394 --> 0:31:35.274
<v Speaker 9>And then where that page is and where do they

0:31:35.274 --> 0:31:35.994
<v Speaker 9>do the comics?

0:31:36.754 --> 0:31:37.874
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they do comics.

0:31:38.834 --> 0:31:41.074
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing I will say about why it's

0:31:41.114 --> 0:31:43.354
<v Speaker 1>so great is that it's very social. So when you're

0:31:43.354 --> 0:31:45.594
<v Speaker 1>looking at your phone and you're scrolling your phone, you

0:31:45.674 --> 0:31:48.554
<v Speaker 1>basically have a sign above your head that says go away, right, Like,

0:31:48.634 --> 0:31:50.714
<v Speaker 1>no one wants to interrupt someone on their phone. When

0:31:50.754 --> 0:31:54.314
<v Speaker 1>you're like flipping through the newspaper, people feel free to

0:31:54.354 --> 0:31:56.354
<v Speaker 1>come up to you and start a conversation. People in

0:31:56.394 --> 0:31:58.314
<v Speaker 1>your house. I obviously don't want to speak to strangers

0:31:58.314 --> 0:32:00.514
<v Speaker 1>and cafes about this, but like my children, wik up

0:32:00.554 --> 0:32:02.754
<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, what's that story, or it will spark

0:32:02.754 --> 0:32:05.314
<v Speaker 1>a conversation around the dining table.

0:32:05.914 --> 0:32:06.834
<v Speaker 3>I recommerica.

0:32:07.234 --> 0:32:08.074
<v Speaker 4>I like that a lot.

0:32:08.634 --> 0:32:08.994
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:32:09.154 --> 0:32:11.914
<v Speaker 5>My hack has been, as I've talked about a lot

0:32:11.914 --> 0:32:14.114
<v Speaker 5>this year, I have been trying not to buy anything new.

0:32:14.474 --> 0:32:16.994
<v Speaker 5>I have not totally achieved that. There have been moments

0:32:17.034 --> 0:32:19.434
<v Speaker 5>I think pregnancy really threw me through a curveball.

0:32:19.554 --> 0:32:21.274
<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon that you've bought a lot less?

0:32:22.394 --> 0:32:26.354
<v Speaker 5>You're not made that ninety percentI yeah, amazing, right, And

0:32:26.434 --> 0:32:29.074
<v Speaker 5>so I've spoken a lot about deepop, spoken a lot

0:32:29.074 --> 0:32:32.354
<v Speaker 5>about Facebook Marketplace. Now that I've done this for a year,

0:32:32.554 --> 0:32:35.794
<v Speaker 5>I can never go back, like I can't. There are

0:32:35.874 --> 0:32:38.554
<v Speaker 5>certain websites I won't name them that I cannot use

0:32:38.594 --> 0:32:39.354
<v Speaker 5>because I have like.

0:32:39.314 --> 0:32:40.754
<v Speaker 4>A sick feeling when I go on them.

0:32:40.794 --> 0:32:44.194
<v Speaker 5>Right, So now from everything, for I was speaking the

0:32:44.234 --> 0:32:47.074
<v Speaker 5>other week, I needed a belly band for pregnancy, right,

0:32:47.554 --> 0:32:50.154
<v Speaker 5>and that's one hundred and something dollars, and I went,

0:32:50.874 --> 0:32:53.554
<v Speaker 5>I can't buy a new one. I just can't because

0:32:53.834 --> 0:32:57.314
<v Speaker 5>I know that belly bands are sitting in thousands of

0:32:57.354 --> 0:32:58.754
<v Speaker 5>women's homes.

0:32:58.314 --> 0:33:01.034
<v Speaker 4>All around like that. They use it for a certain period.

0:33:01.074 --> 0:33:02.954
<v Speaker 2>Literally only use it for a few months, yes.

0:33:02.874 --> 0:33:07.074
<v Speaker 5>Like talk about landfill is a belly band during pregnant.

0:33:07.194 --> 0:33:09.434
<v Speaker 4>It kind of helps you. It lifts up the pressure

0:33:09.474 --> 0:33:09.754
<v Speaker 4>a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So really you.

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<v Speaker 5>Only use it for four months maybe, and then it

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<v Speaker 5>just sits there. And so I actually went on Facebook

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<v Speaker 5>marketplace found someone who was a couple of kilometers away

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<v Speaker 5>who had never opened hers and it was sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>her house. I got a brand new one for a

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<v Speaker 5>third of the price, picked it up. The other thing

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<v Speaker 5>has been like Lunar needs a new hat, and I go,

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Go into West into our old hat she grew out.

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<v Speaker 2>And you should know how often children lose.

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<v Speaker 4>Hats, right, And I go, She's gonna wear this hat

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<v Speaker 4>for one summer. I just can't go and buy a

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<v Speaker 4>new one anymore. It irks me.

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<v Speaker 5>So I go onto my marketplace. I go on to

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<v Speaker 5>deep Hop whatever I find it there is. If you

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<v Speaker 5>go into marketplace, they are selling an entire child's wardrobe

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<v Speaker 5>in size three that you can all bluey coated.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I'm not on Facebook, as I may have

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<v Speaker 1>asked you, is Deepop okay? Can I use that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that fine?

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<v Speaker 5>Deepop's great for everything, like literally, So for example, I

0:34:04.594 --> 0:34:06.714
<v Speaker 5>talked about bags, wanting a bag, someone sent me a

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<v Speaker 5>unicorn to this Uniclo bag and I went, it's there

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<v Speaker 5>at the moment for however much, and I went, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>look on deep Hop. I just found exactly the same

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<v Speaker 5>bag on deep Hoop heavily discounted.

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<v Speaker 4>This person had never used it. Like, just whatever you do.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying you need to buy everything second hand,

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<v Speaker 5>but just put it into deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>And have a look ever seen, Like have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>gotten something it didn't meet the description?

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<v Speaker 2>Never?

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<v Speaker 4>Never?

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<v Speaker 5>Like people are really really honest about Sometimes I.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it from deep hop like because the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I get stuck with with the marketplace is the admin involved,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're having a drive around. And also where I live,

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<v Speaker 2>it's harder not in cities, et cetera. But in deep

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<v Speaker 2>Hop is the seller going to mail it to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And that's the easier bit.

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<v Speaker 5>So Deeper I probably got it at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>I'd get it if I've got it from uniclo like

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<v Speaker 5>and the person just sends it directly to me. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>a person will say Hey, I think you're around the corner.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just drop it? And I go, yeah, that's fine, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so much better for the environment, and you feel

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<v Speaker 5>good and it's cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that. My last one is it's about

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<v Speaker 2>recipes that I made this year. The most discussed that

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<v Speaker 2>I get asked for the most is the easiest, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Virginia Treoli's green beans.

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<v Speaker 3>Even, I, yes, what does that entail?

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<v Speaker 2>So earlier this year? I think it was earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed Virginia Treoli, the esteem journalist, about a memoir

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<v Speaker 2>she's written. It's all about side dishes called bit on

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<v Speaker 2>the Side. It's got some great recipes in it. From

0:35:31.954 --> 0:35:35.074
<v Speaker 2>that book. Brent and I our favorite. You would love this, Amelia.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent and I have adopted her Friday night fog, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a cocktail which has the best name because it

0:35:40.074 --> 0:35:41.873
<v Speaker 2>does just give you a Friday night fog, just a

0:35:41.954 --> 0:35:45.834
<v Speaker 2>nice night, which is like it's a pink grapefruit vodka

0:35:45.994 --> 0:35:50.034
<v Speaker 2>ice cold. Yeah, so good. So there's that, But you know,

0:35:50.194 --> 0:35:54.554
<v Speaker 2>drink responsibly, et cetera. But her green beans, her Grandma's

0:35:54.554 --> 0:35:56.994
<v Speaker 2>green beans, is the easiest recipe you'll ever make, and

0:35:56.994 --> 0:35:59.194
<v Speaker 2>they've been bringing me joy all year. And all you

0:35:59.234 --> 0:36:01.234
<v Speaker 2>do is you get so say it's Saturday, and on

0:36:01.274 --> 0:36:02.993
<v Speaker 2>Saturday night, you know you're going to have some meat

0:36:03.074 --> 0:36:04.634
<v Speaker 2>or some fish or whatever with your partner, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a nice little dinner beans or not

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<v Speaker 2>with your partner, well with anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>All you do is you planed to green beans, so

0:36:19.634 --> 0:36:21.954
<v Speaker 2>you boil them really quickly. Actually, she doesn't approve of

0:36:21.994 --> 0:36:24.754
<v Speaker 2>the crunch. She thinks that's a trendy affectation. And then

0:36:24.794 --> 0:36:27.354
<v Speaker 2>your beans should be well cooked. But anyway, green beans cooked,

0:36:27.914 --> 0:36:29.514
<v Speaker 2>and then you put them in a bowl on the

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<v Speaker 2>side in your kitchen with some crush, garlic, some olive oil,

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<v Speaker 2>a splash of wine, vinegar, salt, and pepper, and then

0:36:34.714 --> 0:36:37.913
<v Speaker 2>you just leave them to sit there all afternoon and

0:36:37.994 --> 0:36:45.474
<v Speaker 2>they become the most delicious, soury sweetie. It's not really

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<v Speaker 2>picky because you don't put it so much that it's

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<v Speaker 2>like underwater. You just like dress it like a salad

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<v Speaker 2>kind of and then you just leave it to the side,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you're going to have your dinner that night,

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<v Speaker 2>you pull them out and these will be the best

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<v Speaker 2>green beans.

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<v Speaker 4>Of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my favorite hack. We've got into cooking a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more this year. Matilda and I made mango pancakes

0:37:02.954 --> 0:37:05.074
<v Speaker 2>and recipe to eats it last weekend and that was

0:37:05.514 --> 0:37:09.634
<v Speaker 2>the most fun anyway. That's that for me. Are we

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the first episode of Recognized?

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<v Speaker 3>We got to talk all.

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<v Speaker 4>Day about recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, which is lucky because out louders, we

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<v Speaker 2>have got another episode coming to you after Christmas on

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty ninth with more recommendations.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for listening to this special episode

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<v Speaker 5>of Mum Maya out Loud. Also, if you've been madly

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<v Speaker 5>reading this time of year, and if you want to

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<v Speaker 5>join us for our summer book club is coming up

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend on Sunday, the twenty eighth of December. The

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<v Speaker 5>book we have been reading is Emily Henry's Great, Big,

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<v Speaker 5>Beautiful Life, and we've got a whole episode coming where

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<v Speaker 5>we debrief and if you are looking for more to

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<v Speaker 5>listen to, every MoMA Maya podcast is curating your summer

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<v Speaker 5>listening right across our network, from pop culture to beauty

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<v Speaker 5>to powerful interviews. There is something for everyone. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>link in our show notes and we will be back

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<v Speaker 5>to regular programming on Monday, the twelfth of January.

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<v Speaker 6>Bye Bye Bye

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<v Speaker 9>Mammy acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which

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<v Speaker 9>we have recorded this podcast.