1 00:00:08,193 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to another Mia podcast. 2 00:00:16,634 --> 00:00:20,473 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to a special drop of Mamma Mia 3 00:00:20,553 --> 00:00:21,114 Speaker 2: out Loud. 4 00:00:21,794 --> 00:00:24,274 Speaker 3: I'm Hollywayne Right, I'm Amelia Lester. 5 00:00:24,434 --> 00:00:25,593 Speaker 4: I'm Jesse Stevens, and. 6 00:00:27,354 --> 00:00:29,994 Speaker 2: Four of us here. There are four of us gathered 7 00:00:30,034 --> 00:00:33,394 Speaker 2: here today for a very special reason. We are doing 8 00:00:33,513 --> 00:00:37,314 Speaker 2: two episodes that round up all our best recommendations. 9 00:00:36,674 --> 00:00:39,473 Speaker 4: To be There are a lot of fresh ones as well. 10 00:00:39,634 --> 00:00:42,633 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Amelia isn't normally on Friday, so she never 11 00:00:42,674 --> 00:00:44,514 Speaker 2: gets to do recommendation. 12 00:00:43,954 --> 00:00:46,594 Speaker 1: Which is a shame because I love losting people around. Hey, 13 00:00:46,634 --> 00:00:49,394 Speaker 1: can I just say having four of us in one spot? 14 00:00:49,473 --> 00:00:51,793 Speaker 1: You know how the royal family has these rules that 15 00:00:51,913 --> 00:00:54,634 Speaker 1: the people at the top of the succession ladder can't 16 00:00:54,674 --> 00:00:55,834 Speaker 1: travel together in. 17 00:00:55,754 --> 00:00:58,754 Speaker 3: Case there's a playing crash. This worries missus. I'm just 18 00:00:58,834 --> 00:00:59,714 Speaker 3: going to say it. 19 00:01:00,514 --> 00:01:03,234 Speaker 5: I hope no one has an illness. 20 00:01:03,314 --> 00:01:05,954 Speaker 2: So you know, if anything goes really tits. 21 00:01:05,754 --> 00:01:09,313 Speaker 3: Up, she could one by herself. 22 00:01:09,394 --> 00:01:12,114 Speaker 5: That's the most terrifying detail is that Mayo would have 23 00:01:12,154 --> 00:01:12,634 Speaker 5: to step in. 24 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:17,074 Speaker 2: So we've gathered up recommendations ones either our favorites from 25 00:01:17,114 --> 00:01:19,794 Speaker 2: ones we gave you this year or fresh E's for 26 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:23,074 Speaker 2: Cross two episodes, and we're going to take turns and 27 00:01:23,114 --> 00:01:27,634 Speaker 2: we're going to start with movies. Jesse Stevens, would you 28 00:01:28,034 --> 00:01:28,834 Speaker 2: like to kick off? 29 00:01:29,314 --> 00:01:29,834 Speaker 4: Okay? 30 00:01:30,114 --> 00:01:34,114 Speaker 5: Mine is a Netflix documentary that was the best Netflix 31 00:01:34,154 --> 00:01:36,514 Speaker 5: documentary I watched all year. If you haven't got round 32 00:01:36,554 --> 00:01:36,953 Speaker 5: to each. 33 00:01:36,834 --> 00:01:39,834 Speaker 2: Jesse, you watch how many Netflix documentaries do you think 34 00:01:39,874 --> 00:01:40,953 Speaker 2: you watched this year? 35 00:01:41,314 --> 00:01:42,474 Speaker 4: I reckon I watched two a week. 36 00:01:42,714 --> 00:01:45,874 Speaker 2: Oh wow, easy, more. 37 00:01:45,754 --> 00:01:48,394 Speaker 5: Than more than yeah, and most of them are fine, 38 00:01:48,994 --> 00:01:50,074 Speaker 5: but this one, can. 39 00:01:50,074 --> 00:01:50,754 Speaker 6: I guess what it is? 40 00:01:50,834 --> 00:01:51,074 Speaker 1: Yeah? 41 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:51,834 Speaker 6: Poop Cruise. 42 00:01:52,314 --> 00:01:53,794 Speaker 4: Oh that was great. 43 00:01:54,274 --> 00:01:57,554 Speaker 5: It's not that, but I love Poop Cruise. I will 44 00:01:57,674 --> 00:02:02,794 Speaker 5: second that recommendation. It was Tighten the Ocean Gate Submersible 45 00:02:02,874 --> 00:02:04,234 Speaker 5: disaster documentary. 46 00:02:04,314 --> 00:02:07,114 Speaker 2: So just a second, we are kicking off our recommendations 47 00:02:07,154 --> 00:02:11,953 Speaker 2: special for the festive season with the documentary Submarine Exploded. 48 00:02:12,474 --> 00:02:16,714 Speaker 2: Several people was very sad, Jesse stee. But it was 49 00:02:16,874 --> 00:02:20,514 Speaker 2: also like, I was so obsessed with that story. 50 00:02:20,794 --> 00:02:22,754 Speaker 7: There was no way of knowing were Titled was going 51 00:02:22,754 --> 00:02:26,234 Speaker 7: to fail, but it was a mathematical certainty that it 52 00:02:26,274 --> 00:02:34,314 Speaker 7: would fail. Stockton saw an opportunity to restart tourist visits 53 00:02:34,314 --> 00:02:34,994 Speaker 7: to Titanic. 54 00:02:36,474 --> 00:02:38,834 Speaker 2: Stockton fully believed in what he was doing and that 55 00:02:38,874 --> 00:02:39,434 Speaker 2: it would work. 56 00:02:39,674 --> 00:02:43,794 Speaker 3: He wanted to fame to fuel these ego theme. 57 00:02:44,714 --> 00:02:46,513 Speaker 7: I have no desire to die. 58 00:02:48,634 --> 00:02:50,994 Speaker 2: I understand this kind. 59 00:02:50,794 --> 00:02:53,874 Speaker 3: Of risk, and I thought Stockton was a borderline psychopath. 60 00:02:54,194 --> 00:02:55,913 Speaker 3: How do you manage a person like that who. 61 00:02:55,794 --> 00:02:56,434 Speaker 2: Owns the company? 62 00:02:57,674 --> 00:02:59,474 Speaker 5: The way that the headlines were coming out and there 63 00:02:59,474 --> 00:03:01,634 Speaker 5: were rumors that you could hear tapping, and there was 64 00:03:01,674 --> 00:03:04,554 Speaker 5: the timer of just like these people are stuck. I 65 00:03:04,634 --> 00:03:09,674 Speaker 5: find something about submersibles so innately terrifying that the idea 66 00:03:09,714 --> 00:03:12,474 Speaker 5: that these people went down and something went horrifically wrong. 67 00:03:12,674 --> 00:03:15,034 Speaker 5: There is so much more to that story in terms 68 00:03:15,074 --> 00:03:20,034 Speaker 5: of it. There is fault and there is hubris involved, 69 00:03:20,194 --> 00:03:22,674 Speaker 5: and like the narrative in the way it's put together 70 00:03:23,154 --> 00:03:25,354 Speaker 5: and the people who tried to blow the whistle, it 71 00:03:25,474 --> 00:03:27,474 Speaker 5: is just fascinating. 72 00:03:27,514 --> 00:03:28,634 Speaker 4: Have you all seen it yet? 73 00:03:28,994 --> 00:03:29,794 Speaker 3: I have seen it. 74 00:03:29,874 --> 00:03:31,794 Speaker 1: I don't think it's as good as poop cruise. 75 00:03:33,074 --> 00:03:34,434 Speaker 3: It just I mean. 76 00:03:34,474 --> 00:03:36,914 Speaker 1: But what I did love about it was that there 77 00:03:36,954 --> 00:03:39,114 Speaker 1: were a lot of people who, like you say, were 78 00:03:39,154 --> 00:03:43,874 Speaker 1: trying to solve this disaster waiting to happen, and they did, 79 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:47,154 Speaker 1: including an Australian. If nobody saves me correctly, but they 80 00:03:47,234 --> 00:03:48,194 Speaker 1: just won't listen. 81 00:03:47,994 --> 00:03:49,194 Speaker 4: To exactly right. 82 00:03:49,314 --> 00:03:52,634 Speaker 5: It was so so good. So that documentary is my 83 00:03:52,754 --> 00:03:54,874 Speaker 5: number one Netflix stocker. 84 00:03:55,154 --> 00:03:57,594 Speaker 2: And I think we share one of our number one 85 00:03:57,954 --> 00:04:00,994 Speaker 2: I came through in a special extra so our joint 86 00:04:01,314 --> 00:04:03,474 Speaker 2: favorite movie. And I have to caveat this that I 87 00:04:03,594 --> 00:04:05,874 Speaker 2: realized this year I went to the movies, probably less 88 00:04:05,874 --> 00:04:08,114 Speaker 2: than I've ever been to the movie. Movie tickets are 89 00:04:08,154 --> 00:04:10,514 Speaker 2: quiet expensive, and also it just I don't live someone 90 00:04:10,594 --> 00:04:13,194 Speaker 2: near movies anymore. But I think I'm also representative of 91 00:04:13,194 --> 00:04:16,274 Speaker 2: a lot of people. Unfortunately. I've just it takes a lot. 92 00:04:16,313 --> 00:04:20,234 Speaker 2: But this movie was so good and it was sinners. 93 00:04:20,354 --> 00:04:26,234 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I've. 94 00:04:26,113 --> 00:04:32,793 Speaker 8: Been all over this world. I've seen me and die ways. 95 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:40,153 Speaker 8: I ain't even know as possible. Lave you, brother, be careful. 96 00:04:41,433 --> 00:04:54,153 Speaker 8: I will with all the things that I've seen. I 97 00:04:54,154 --> 00:05:00,153 Speaker 8: ain't ever seen no demons, no ghosts. 98 00:05:03,193 --> 00:05:03,794 Speaker 1: No man. 99 00:05:07,594 --> 00:05:11,674 Speaker 9: Feel Now, I think this movie made it in my letterbox. 100 00:05:11,794 --> 00:05:13,754 Speaker 6: Top four? Are we all on letterbox here? 101 00:05:13,834 --> 00:05:15,193 Speaker 2: No? What? 102 00:05:15,513 --> 00:05:15,753 Speaker 3: Okay? 103 00:05:15,873 --> 00:05:18,273 Speaker 9: Letterbox is also people are using it as a dating 104 00:05:18,274 --> 00:05:22,354 Speaker 9: app now, but it's kind of like good Reads for movies. 105 00:05:23,113 --> 00:05:25,193 Speaker 9: So it's an app that you have on your phone 106 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:27,633 Speaker 9: every time you watch a movie, you rate and review it, 107 00:05:27,674 --> 00:05:29,834 Speaker 9: and then you can follow other people and like their 108 00:05:29,953 --> 00:05:32,634 Speaker 9: ratings and reviews, and on your profile you choose your 109 00:05:32,633 --> 00:05:35,553 Speaker 9: favorite four movies of all time and sin it's made. 110 00:05:35,393 --> 00:05:38,393 Speaker 1: It in Okay, can Somehow? I have literally never heard 111 00:05:38,433 --> 00:05:40,233 Speaker 1: of this. Can You tell Me Everything Spill? 112 00:05:40,474 --> 00:05:43,873 Speaker 9: So it's directed by Ryan Coolidge and it stars Michael B. 113 00:05:44,034 --> 00:05:44,394 Speaker 6: Jordan. 114 00:05:44,513 --> 00:05:47,073 Speaker 9: He plays twins. And I think it's sat in the 115 00:05:47,274 --> 00:05:48,313 Speaker 9: nineteen seventies. 116 00:05:48,553 --> 00:05:52,393 Speaker 2: No, it's not, Yes, it's not. It's like in the twenties, 117 00:05:52,393 --> 00:05:55,873 Speaker 2: he said, like way when Oh dear. 118 00:05:57,834 --> 00:06:00,513 Speaker 4: Seventies way back, because. 119 00:06:01,953 --> 00:06:03,553 Speaker 2: It's super old. 120 00:06:03,594 --> 00:06:05,753 Speaker 9: And yeah, it's a very vampire it's like horror, but 121 00:06:05,873 --> 00:06:08,993 Speaker 9: camp it is so good. And there was a lot 122 00:06:09,034 --> 00:06:11,633 Speaker 9: of contention around it because I feel like we're in 123 00:06:11,714 --> 00:06:14,514 Speaker 9: this age where the movies that make money right now 124 00:06:14,594 --> 00:06:18,393 Speaker 9: are movies that are either a franchise or they're like 125 00:06:18,474 --> 00:06:20,953 Speaker 9: a remake of an IP, and this was an original 126 00:06:20,953 --> 00:06:24,113 Speaker 9: IP and it made billions. It did so so well. 127 00:06:24,274 --> 00:06:25,753 Speaker 9: You can now stream its on HBO. 128 00:06:26,154 --> 00:06:29,354 Speaker 3: Is it a horror? It's about vampires, so it sounds scary. 129 00:06:29,594 --> 00:06:32,594 Speaker 2: It is scary, but it's kind of note. The broad 130 00:06:32,753 --> 00:06:35,113 Speaker 2: story is yes, Michael B. Jordan places these twins. But 131 00:06:35,113 --> 00:06:36,714 Speaker 2: it's kind of a racial story, it said, in the 132 00:06:36,753 --> 00:06:39,914 Speaker 2: Deep South. It's hard to explain, but basically it's about 133 00:06:39,993 --> 00:06:44,313 Speaker 2: jazz music and music and vampires. And it is so 134 00:06:44,513 --> 00:06:48,193 Speaker 2: original and funny. It's so funny and sexy and good 135 00:06:48,274 --> 00:06:51,553 Speaker 2: and just like Edge of Your Seat, it was great music. Yeah, 136 00:06:51,674 --> 00:06:55,473 Speaker 2: the soundtrack is extraordinary. It's one of those really original 137 00:06:55,633 --> 00:06:58,593 Speaker 2: movies in a familiar genre like vampires. Oh, but it's 138 00:06:58,633 --> 00:06:59,553 Speaker 2: just a very Can. 139 00:06:59,553 --> 00:07:01,433 Speaker 5: I ask a question about it because I watched it 140 00:07:01,594 --> 00:07:04,073 Speaker 5: on a plane. I really enjoyed it, but I desperately 141 00:07:04,113 --> 00:07:07,433 Speaker 5: wanted to then read analysis. Is it like an agree 142 00:07:07,513 --> 00:07:10,834 Speaker 5: for something? Well, I think yes, yeah, but I feel 143 00:07:10,834 --> 00:07:12,833 Speaker 5: as though it had this deeper meaning that I maybe 144 00:07:12,834 --> 00:07:13,674 Speaker 5: didn't quite get. 145 00:07:14,114 --> 00:07:16,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't tell you what that was, I said. 146 00:07:18,354 --> 00:07:20,754 Speaker 2: I mean, it's obviously about racial politics and stuff in 147 00:07:20,794 --> 00:07:22,714 Speaker 2: the in the Deep South in that time, and it's 148 00:07:22,714 --> 00:07:24,754 Speaker 2: about a whole lot of things. But it's also just 149 00:07:25,514 --> 00:07:29,154 Speaker 2: the kind of monster movie that made it through. As 150 00:07:29,194 --> 00:07:32,354 Speaker 2: em said, like everything else is this very bland, cookie 151 00:07:32,434 --> 00:07:34,514 Speaker 2: cutter world, and this just broke through and it did 152 00:07:34,674 --> 00:07:36,914 Speaker 2: massive box office. It was one of the biggest movies 153 00:07:36,914 --> 00:07:40,153 Speaker 2: of the Year, which surprised everybody, but it shouldn't surprise 154 00:07:40,154 --> 00:07:41,434 Speaker 2: anyone because it was a really good time. 155 00:07:41,514 --> 00:07:42,554 Speaker 6: It was so good. 156 00:07:42,594 --> 00:07:45,074 Speaker 9: I've also got another movie suggestion because I knew we 157 00:07:45,074 --> 00:07:47,874 Speaker 9: were going to tag team this one Superman, like the 158 00:07:47,953 --> 00:07:51,154 Speaker 9: New Come on now, really the New Superman film. 159 00:07:51,194 --> 00:07:52,234 Speaker 6: I feel like, if. 160 00:07:52,074 --> 00:07:55,594 Speaker 1: It's just like woke Superman, right, this is what I've heard, 161 00:07:55,834 --> 00:07:57,834 Speaker 1: it's like a good Superman. 162 00:07:58,034 --> 00:08:01,273 Speaker 3: The most powerful being on planet Earth. 163 00:08:05,754 --> 00:08:06,754 Speaker 7: We finally meet. 164 00:08:08,434 --> 00:08:18,953 Speaker 2: Now as planned, I'll destroy you. And of course that 165 00:08:19,074 --> 00:08:21,154 Speaker 2: reporter you always do interviews with. 166 00:08:22,794 --> 00:08:26,634 Speaker 3: Who raised you as a child, I'll kill them too. 167 00:08:28,434 --> 00:08:31,874 Speaker 9: So I feel like, if you're a big superhero nerd 168 00:08:32,114 --> 00:08:34,834 Speaker 9: like me, DC haven't been doing that well. 169 00:08:36,594 --> 00:08:39,794 Speaker 6: She is, Yeah, I think like Marvel's. 170 00:08:39,314 --> 00:08:42,874 Speaker 9: Really overtaken everything. DC hasn't been doing too well. But 171 00:08:42,954 --> 00:08:45,953 Speaker 9: then James Gunn directed the Newest Superman movie. And this 172 00:08:45,994 --> 00:08:48,474 Speaker 9: movie has been done so many times, and this one 173 00:08:48,554 --> 00:08:52,114 Speaker 9: just completely cut through because they just stuck to what 174 00:08:52,154 --> 00:08:53,914 Speaker 9: they know and it's just we just want a hot 175 00:08:53,954 --> 00:08:57,514 Speaker 9: man who muscles, who is so the movie stars David 176 00:08:57,554 --> 00:09:01,754 Speaker 9: corn Sweat. Oh, it's also on HBO, but I watched 177 00:09:01,754 --> 00:09:02,074 Speaker 9: it at. 178 00:09:01,994 --> 00:09:06,594 Speaker 6: The Imax and insane. It's just like a superhero movie. 179 00:09:06,594 --> 00:09:07,554 Speaker 6: You know what you get. 180 00:09:08,354 --> 00:09:09,834 Speaker 2: Take the kids, Take the kids. 181 00:09:09,834 --> 00:09:10,954 Speaker 6: It's a good time. 182 00:09:11,234 --> 00:09:11,754 Speaker 2: Amelia. 183 00:09:12,074 --> 00:09:13,834 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you asked. I have two. 184 00:09:13,994 --> 00:09:15,874 Speaker 1: It's a little bit cheating, but they're both in the 185 00:09:15,874 --> 00:09:20,114 Speaker 1: same genre, and that genre is music biopics. I love 186 00:09:20,234 --> 00:09:22,713 Speaker 1: my music biopics. So in twenty twenty, I feel like 187 00:09:22,754 --> 00:09:25,394 Speaker 1: I got really into sport, Like I was watching sport 188 00:09:25,474 --> 00:09:27,874 Speaker 1: documentaries when we're all at home and I turn to 189 00:09:27,914 --> 00:09:29,154 Speaker 1: my partner and say things. 190 00:09:28,994 --> 00:09:31,594 Speaker 3: Like sports really interesting, and I. 191 00:09:32,074 --> 00:09:34,754 Speaker 1: Straight men love it when you say that. But music 192 00:09:34,874 --> 00:09:38,554 Speaker 1: is really interesting too. And I have two movies to recommend. 193 00:09:38,594 --> 00:09:41,154 Speaker 1: The first is Bob Dylan's biopic, which is called A 194 00:09:41,194 --> 00:09:42,474 Speaker 1: Complete Unknown. 195 00:09:42,274 --> 00:09:43,914 Speaker 2: Starring my friend Tim. 196 00:09:44,034 --> 00:09:45,594 Speaker 3: Your friend Timmy loved that. 197 00:09:48,994 --> 00:09:52,074 Speaker 2: You trapped all the way from Minnesota. 198 00:09:52,754 --> 00:09:53,274 Speaker 3: Why is that? 199 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:55,394 Speaker 1: Oh the catch you. 200 00:09:55,394 --> 00:10:00,914 Speaker 7: Spoke if you're traveling in the North country? 201 00:10:00,994 --> 00:10:03,314 Speaker 4: Fair, I see, no one wants to hear when you 202 00:10:03,354 --> 00:10:03,754 Speaker 4: can't rule? 203 00:10:03,874 --> 00:10:04,394 Speaker 2: Last month? 204 00:10:04,914 --> 00:10:06,674 Speaker 3: Well, I like your songs. 205 00:10:07,394 --> 00:10:10,833 Speaker 6: 's hit heavy the boardline? 206 00:10:11,394 --> 00:10:12,234 Speaker 2: Who wrote this? 207 00:10:13,274 --> 00:10:15,154 Speaker 8: He did? Remember me? 208 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:15,954 Speaker 6: How about that? 209 00:10:16,034 --> 00:10:16,634 Speaker 1: John Bayers? 210 00:10:18,514 --> 00:10:23,034 Speaker 2: Because she's pretty sings pretty ones, maybe a little two, 211 00:10:23,034 --> 00:10:26,794 Speaker 2: pretty truly love your signs are like an oil painting 212 00:10:26,834 --> 00:10:30,914 Speaker 2: and the dentist's office, the oscars over. That wasn't Amelia. 213 00:10:31,074 --> 00:10:34,434 Speaker 2: He was brilliant, fabulous. I didn't like it. Oh, I've 214 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:35,594 Speaker 2: watched it like three times. 215 00:10:35,594 --> 00:10:37,434 Speaker 1: Please hold let me get through it, and then I 216 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:41,194 Speaker 1: want to hear White. Bruce Springsteen's biopic Delivered Me from Nowhere, 217 00:10:41,634 --> 00:10:46,554 Speaker 1: starring my favorite actor, Jeremy Allen White, and if you 218 00:10:46,634 --> 00:10:49,674 Speaker 1: have anything to say about Jeremy Allen White, please leave. 219 00:10:50,874 --> 00:10:53,474 Speaker 1: I liked it. It's not a great movie. But here's 220 00:10:53,514 --> 00:10:57,634 Speaker 1: what I like about music biopics. The steaks are extremely low. 221 00:10:57,834 --> 00:11:01,234 Speaker 1: The climactic scene of the Bob Dylan movie No Spoiler 222 00:11:01,354 --> 00:11:04,954 Speaker 1: alert required, is whether or not Ed Norton is going 223 00:11:04,994 --> 00:11:08,474 Speaker 1: to succeed in plugging in his guitar into the speaker. 224 00:11:08,954 --> 00:11:12,154 Speaker 3: That is like this scene where you like abiding your nails. 225 00:11:12,194 --> 00:11:14,514 Speaker 3: You're so scared. Is he going to play his electric 226 00:11:14,594 --> 00:11:15,394 Speaker 3: guitar or not? 227 00:11:15,714 --> 00:11:18,754 Speaker 5: I love Genius documentary and it fell into that too. 228 00:11:19,154 --> 00:11:21,194 Speaker 5: I just like watching a genius exist. 229 00:11:21,234 --> 00:11:23,554 Speaker 1: The thing about the Bruce Springstea movie is that it 230 00:11:23,634 --> 00:11:26,754 Speaker 1: proves the point that men would rather release an acoustic 231 00:11:26,794 --> 00:11:29,953 Speaker 1: album than go to therapy, and that's an important realization 232 00:11:30,114 --> 00:11:32,554 Speaker 1: to have, and so I just recommend them both for 233 00:11:32,754 --> 00:11:34,914 Speaker 1: edifying reasons and also because they're very low stakes. 234 00:11:34,954 --> 00:11:36,714 Speaker 3: Now, why didn't you like the Bob Dylan movie? 235 00:11:37,754 --> 00:11:39,314 Speaker 6: He just was a bit of a dick, was me? 236 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:40,274 Speaker 5: You know. 237 00:11:42,074 --> 00:11:44,274 Speaker 3: You're allowed just me. 238 00:11:44,914 --> 00:11:46,354 Speaker 6: We need to stop calling men who are me. 239 00:11:49,434 --> 00:11:56,514 Speaker 2: This could take like I didn't even know any of genius. Anyway, 240 00:11:56,594 --> 00:11:58,434 Speaker 2: we shall move along. O. The one I wanted to 241 00:11:58,434 --> 00:12:00,634 Speaker 2: throw in, apart from Sinners, that I really enjoyed this 242 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:06,233 Speaker 2: year was a real pain. Oh yes, directed by Jesse Adenberg, 243 00:12:06,514 --> 00:12:08,194 Speaker 2: one Care and Kulkin and Oscar. 244 00:12:08,474 --> 00:12:11,514 Speaker 3: Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. 245 00:12:11,754 --> 00:12:13,434 Speaker 1: Bonner is not available. 246 00:12:13,634 --> 00:12:15,994 Speaker 3: Hey, Benji, I just got to the airport. I really 247 00:12:16,074 --> 00:12:19,074 Speaker 3: hope you left the ready air God you made. It's 248 00:12:19,234 --> 00:12:21,514 Speaker 3: because I got some good ship from when we land. Wait, 249 00:12:21,554 --> 00:12:23,554 Speaker 3: you're not like taking weed into Poland, are you yet? 250 00:12:23,634 --> 00:12:23,914 Speaker 2: Benji? 251 00:12:23,954 --> 00:12:25,274 Speaker 3: They don't give a shit about that stuff, and I 252 00:12:25,274 --> 00:12:25,914 Speaker 3: think they very much. 253 00:12:25,954 --> 00:12:26,434 Speaker 2: Do you give a shit? 254 00:12:26,434 --> 00:12:29,514 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 255 00:12:30,034 --> 00:12:31,874 Speaker 2: Davers and I are cousins. 256 00:12:32,514 --> 00:12:34,554 Speaker 6: We used to be joined at the hip our grandma 257 00:12:34,554 --> 00:12:35,354 Speaker 6: who is from here. 258 00:12:35,474 --> 00:12:36,634 Speaker 3: So data range for us. 259 00:12:36,594 --> 00:12:38,834 Speaker 6: To join this geriatric Polish tour. 260 00:12:38,874 --> 00:12:39,714 Speaker 3: With you fine people. 261 00:12:39,954 --> 00:12:41,154 Speaker 8: That's where we go. 262 00:12:41,554 --> 00:12:44,354 Speaker 2: It's about family. That again sounds as cheerful as your 263 00:12:44,394 --> 00:12:48,994 Speaker 2: documentary going on a Holocaust tour of Poland. It sounds 264 00:12:48,994 --> 00:12:50,514 Speaker 2: so crazy, but it's so funny. 265 00:12:50,834 --> 00:12:52,593 Speaker 4: The dynamic is fantastic. 266 00:12:52,754 --> 00:12:55,314 Speaker 2: And Jesse wrote it and directed it. Not our Jesse, 267 00:12:55,394 --> 00:12:59,114 Speaker 2: Jesse Eisenberg, and I love that so much. Okay, we 268 00:12:59,234 --> 00:13:01,474 Speaker 2: are moving on, Jesse, what are we doing there? 269 00:13:01,874 --> 00:13:05,194 Speaker 5: Coming up from beauty products to books? We are about 270 00:13:05,194 --> 00:13:09,914 Speaker 5: to drop all of our favorite recommendation okay, Holly, next 271 00:13:10,034 --> 00:13:11,834 Speaker 5: we are on two beauty products. 272 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,634 Speaker 4: What was your number one beauty production? 273 00:13:14,034 --> 00:13:16,754 Speaker 2: Really hard to pick one. I know we're doing more 274 00:13:16,794 --> 00:13:19,554 Speaker 2: in our second one, but like, and so I thought, well, 275 00:13:19,594 --> 00:13:22,874 Speaker 2: what did I learn this year in a beauty space sense? 276 00:13:23,794 --> 00:13:28,354 Speaker 2: And two things are when you are older, everything is 277 00:13:28,394 --> 00:13:31,234 Speaker 2: about base everything right. I mean, I know it, maybe 278 00:13:31,274 --> 00:13:32,794 Speaker 2: it always is, but when I was young, I didn't 279 00:13:32,834 --> 00:13:35,234 Speaker 2: really care so much. And my number one thing that 280 00:13:35,274 --> 00:13:38,833 Speaker 2: I've loved this year is my foundation, which is expensive. 281 00:13:38,914 --> 00:13:41,394 Speaker 2: It is why I have not recommended it on the 282 00:13:41,434 --> 00:13:44,434 Speaker 2: show before, but people have often said, like, oh, your 283 00:13:44,514 --> 00:13:47,194 Speaker 2: skin looks nice, that's nice foundation. This is why it 284 00:13:47,274 --> 00:13:50,234 Speaker 2: is one hundred and thirty dollars worth of fancy Mecca 285 00:13:50,274 --> 00:13:53,994 Speaker 2: based foundation. I discovered this year the Ellis Face. 286 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:55,554 Speaker 4: How do you spell that? 287 00:13:55,874 --> 00:14:03,114 Speaker 2: So it's e L Lis faas Ellis face, and it's 288 00:14:03,154 --> 00:14:07,874 Speaker 2: called skin veil, right. It's medium coverage and it's really 289 00:14:08,194 --> 00:14:11,593 Speaker 2: glowy and it's like one of those sort of serumie 290 00:14:11,594 --> 00:14:14,314 Speaker 2: ones and you can build it up. It's blurry. That's 291 00:14:14,314 --> 00:14:17,114 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to do, is blur. And you know 292 00:14:17,194 --> 00:14:19,314 Speaker 2: how you find a product, You try it and you 293 00:14:19,434 --> 00:14:21,594 Speaker 2: just go oh yes, and then so much so that 294 00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:23,714 Speaker 2: right to the bottom of the bottle and I had 295 00:14:23,754 --> 00:14:27,194 Speaker 2: to immediately replace it because I can't wear anything else now. 296 00:14:27,234 --> 00:14:28,394 Speaker 4: Doesn't last you a long time? 297 00:14:28,914 --> 00:14:31,354 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, because I wear it on work 298 00:14:31,434 --> 00:14:34,074 Speaker 2: days mostly and I will tend to reapply in the day, 299 00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:36,354 Speaker 2: but that's just because we're filming and things. It's not 300 00:14:36,474 --> 00:14:38,074 Speaker 2: like a matt stick to your face. 301 00:14:38,154 --> 00:14:38,314 Speaker 3: One. 302 00:14:38,474 --> 00:14:41,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lighter than that, although you can build it, 303 00:14:41,234 --> 00:14:43,074 Speaker 2: but for me, I just love it. 304 00:14:43,154 --> 00:14:45,594 Speaker 1: What I think listeners need to know is that Holly 305 00:14:45,674 --> 00:14:47,834 Speaker 1: is the glowiest person in this office. I think we 306 00:14:47,834 --> 00:14:51,554 Speaker 1: can on that, so I'd suggest following it recommendation. 307 00:14:51,674 --> 00:14:54,194 Speaker 2: I do love it. But just throwing in a cheeky 308 00:14:54,234 --> 00:14:56,634 Speaker 2: because it is expensive and I'm sorry about that. But 309 00:14:56,714 --> 00:14:59,114 Speaker 2: I'm throwing in the other thing I learned this year, 310 00:14:59,114 --> 00:15:01,874 Speaker 2: which is blush. So I never used to wear blush, 311 00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:05,794 Speaker 2: right really, and now I'm all about the cheek so 312 00:15:05,794 --> 00:15:08,154 Speaker 2: am I Amelia and I've discussed it on the show. 313 00:15:08,194 --> 00:15:10,074 Speaker 2: Off the show. You got to put it high, blah 314 00:15:10,114 --> 00:15:12,114 Speaker 2: blah blah, you got to basically put it on your forehead. Yeah. 315 00:15:12,114 --> 00:15:14,314 Speaker 2: I've been putting shitloads of blusher on this year. I've 316 00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:17,514 Speaker 2: leaned in and I love them all. My favorite one 317 00:15:17,634 --> 00:15:22,114 Speaker 2: is one from Tart called Marrack. Why do they all 318 00:15:22,194 --> 00:15:28,354 Speaker 2: have such silly Namescouver Marracooja juicy multi stick, which is Tart, 319 00:15:28,434 --> 00:15:30,194 Speaker 2: but there is a dupe of that by m CO 320 00:15:30,394 --> 00:15:32,394 Speaker 2: called the Summer Stick Lip and Cheek Cream, which is 321 00:15:32,474 --> 00:15:35,194 Speaker 2: like ten dollars, so such a cream based I haven't 322 00:15:35,194 --> 00:15:36,994 Speaker 2: put a powder on my face for ten years. That 323 00:15:37,194 --> 00:15:41,634 Speaker 2: powders do not go near this. Ever, It's cream blush 324 00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:43,034 Speaker 2: and I love. 325 00:15:42,874 --> 00:15:45,434 Speaker 4: It all right, I'm going to go next. 326 00:15:46,074 --> 00:15:49,594 Speaker 5: Mine is actually something I haven't recommended on this show yet, 327 00:15:49,594 --> 00:15:51,834 Speaker 5: and Lucra and I have been going to a lot 328 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:52,394 Speaker 5: of open house. 329 00:15:52,434 --> 00:15:54,434 Speaker 4: It's looking for a place, been a disaster. That's not 330 00:15:54,474 --> 00:15:54,794 Speaker 4: the story. 331 00:15:54,834 --> 00:15:56,034 Speaker 2: You've been stealing things from them. 332 00:15:56,474 --> 00:15:59,714 Speaker 5: The story is that I've been going to open houses 333 00:15:59,754 --> 00:16:02,314 Speaker 5: and I walk in and sometimes I smell this smell 334 00:16:02,554 --> 00:16:04,514 Speaker 5: and I go, I want to buy this house. I'm 335 00:16:04,514 --> 00:16:07,314 Speaker 5: not even mocked, but there is this smell. It is 336 00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:10,994 Speaker 5: the best smell in the world. It smells clean, it 337 00:16:11,074 --> 00:16:14,194 Speaker 5: smells expensive. It's just this freshness. And I ended up 338 00:16:14,194 --> 00:16:16,674 Speaker 5: saying to this real estate agent, you gotta tell me 339 00:16:16,874 --> 00:16:21,034 Speaker 5: what that is, and they said, it is the bays 340 00:16:21,394 --> 00:16:22,194 Speaker 5: room spray. 341 00:16:22,434 --> 00:16:23,154 Speaker 4: The dip teak. 342 00:16:23,234 --> 00:16:26,594 Speaker 2: One dip teek is the fanciest smell in the world. 343 00:16:26,634 --> 00:16:28,354 Speaker 4: It is the fanciest smell in the world. 344 00:16:28,394 --> 00:16:29,274 Speaker 6: I need to smell met. 345 00:16:29,394 --> 00:16:32,114 Speaker 5: But what you need to know about this room spray 346 00:16:32,354 --> 00:16:34,554 Speaker 5: is you spray it in a room. And this is 347 00:16:34,554 --> 00:16:37,074 Speaker 5: what the real estate agent told me. That room becomes 348 00:16:37,194 --> 00:16:41,394 Speaker 5: double the price exactly. You will exponentially increase the value 349 00:16:41,434 --> 00:16:44,514 Speaker 5: of your home. But that scent will stick in that 350 00:16:44,634 --> 00:16:48,314 Speaker 5: room for weeks. Wow, like even more effective than the candle. 351 00:16:48,354 --> 00:16:50,594 Speaker 5: I think the room spray. And she said that she 352 00:16:50,754 --> 00:16:54,394 Speaker 5: was laughing, that that's what they spray when the owner 353 00:16:54,474 --> 00:16:57,954 Speaker 5: has a dog and they're trying to neutralize any doggie 354 00:16:57,954 --> 00:17:00,314 Speaker 5: smell that the person can't have anymore, so they just 355 00:17:00,394 --> 00:17:03,434 Speaker 5: spray it and I can't. It is just if you 356 00:17:03,474 --> 00:17:06,153 Speaker 5: want your house to smell incredible, it is the bays 357 00:17:06,394 --> 00:17:10,034 Speaker 5: be A i e. S Room spray diptick. Yes, it's expensive, 358 00:17:10,074 --> 00:17:13,714 Speaker 5: is one hundred and sixteen dollars, but what a great gift. 359 00:17:13,714 --> 00:17:18,874 Speaker 2: Dip teak candles which are very expensive and posh. They 360 00:17:19,074 --> 00:17:21,834 Speaker 2: just smell like I often get once with my birthday, 361 00:17:21,834 --> 00:17:25,754 Speaker 2: once a year from my friend Tory, and I die amazing. 362 00:17:25,834 --> 00:17:27,194 Speaker 2: The fig one is amazing. 363 00:17:27,554 --> 00:17:30,954 Speaker 1: Carrie Bradshaw's candle, as depicted in the original Sex in 364 00:17:30,954 --> 00:17:32,474 Speaker 1: the City was the Bayze candle? 365 00:17:32,634 --> 00:17:32,954 Speaker 2: Yeah? 366 00:17:33,314 --> 00:17:34,434 Speaker 3: Was it dippy? 367 00:17:34,714 --> 00:17:37,154 Speaker 5: And I also wanted to throw in my bedroom hair. 368 00:17:37,314 --> 00:17:40,874 Speaker 5: Kevin Murphy recommendation forty nine to ninety five or basically 369 00:17:41,034 --> 00:17:44,114 Speaker 5: the beauty hack I learned was that when you do waves, 370 00:17:44,114 --> 00:17:46,354 Speaker 5: you do any texture in your hair, you want a 371 00:17:46,394 --> 00:17:50,194 Speaker 5: texturizing spray rather than like a hair spray that makes 372 00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:52,994 Speaker 5: it hard. So your texturizing spray or your bedroom hair, 373 00:17:53,074 --> 00:17:55,474 Speaker 5: you wake up the next day and it's still fresh. 374 00:17:55,754 --> 00:18:00,033 Speaker 9: Smart, Okay, I am recommending something I recommended before, and 375 00:18:00,074 --> 00:18:03,234 Speaker 9: it's probably the one product I always get complimented on. 376 00:18:03,514 --> 00:18:06,554 Speaker 6: I'm wearing it right now. It is my lipstick. 377 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:10,114 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, I'm so glad you people. 378 00:18:10,554 --> 00:18:13,994 Speaker 9: It is the Sephora Collection new cream lipstain in the 379 00:18:14,034 --> 00:18:15,794 Speaker 9: shade Naughty Burgundy. 380 00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:18,114 Speaker 6: It's twenty six signature shade. 381 00:18:18,274 --> 00:18:21,554 Speaker 9: Signature shade shade like this year, Like I think, I 382 00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:22,834 Speaker 9: don't want to do you find. 383 00:18:22,594 --> 00:18:25,154 Speaker 5: What your signature shade is because I feel like I 384 00:18:25,194 --> 00:18:26,634 Speaker 5: don't know what looks good on me. 385 00:18:26,874 --> 00:18:29,714 Speaker 9: Honestly, I found this by accident. I was just looking 386 00:18:29,874 --> 00:18:32,954 Speaker 9: for a lipstick because I have a really big bottom lip. 387 00:18:33,314 --> 00:18:35,714 Speaker 9: Everything I eat and drink it always touches my chin 388 00:18:35,754 --> 00:18:38,234 Speaker 9: and I get a huge mark on my che I 389 00:18:38,274 --> 00:18:41,313 Speaker 9: was just looking for a lipstick that would stop doing that. 390 00:18:41,394 --> 00:18:42,914 Speaker 6: And this one doesn't budge talk. 391 00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:43,954 Speaker 2: To me about the stainness. 392 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:47,954 Speaker 9: It stays forever, but like to the point where it 393 00:18:48,074 --> 00:18:49,954 Speaker 9: is really hard when you take your makeup off, Like 394 00:18:49,994 --> 00:18:51,634 Speaker 9: I always have a bit of residue. 395 00:18:51,274 --> 00:18:51,914 Speaker 6: The next morning. 396 00:18:52,114 --> 00:18:55,314 Speaker 9: Is it in a bullet or it's a doe foot 397 00:18:55,674 --> 00:18:59,594 Speaker 9: So it's like a little cream lipstick. It goes on Matt, 398 00:18:59,714 --> 00:19:01,634 Speaker 9: but then it has like a bit of a satiny finish. 399 00:19:01,714 --> 00:19:03,114 Speaker 6: Sometimes I put a gloss on top. 400 00:19:02,994 --> 00:19:05,754 Speaker 9: Of it, but it never looks dry, whereas I feel 401 00:19:05,754 --> 00:19:08,354 Speaker 9: like it doesn't feel dry. Yeah, Like it's not like 402 00:19:08,394 --> 00:19:11,074 Speaker 9: those I feel like the Kylie Jenna lip kit, like 403 00:19:11,074 --> 00:19:12,794 Speaker 9: where we just dry your lips and you would see 404 00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:13,714 Speaker 9: the flakiness of it. 405 00:19:13,914 --> 00:19:15,074 Speaker 6: It doesn't do that, and. 406 00:19:15,034 --> 00:19:17,154 Speaker 4: It doesn't transfer on to teeth or anything because it's 407 00:19:17,194 --> 00:19:17,874 Speaker 4: so stays. 408 00:19:18,474 --> 00:19:20,554 Speaker 9: It is the best. And they have so many shades. 409 00:19:20,554 --> 00:19:22,154 Speaker 9: I think they have around like twenty six shades. 410 00:19:22,474 --> 00:19:23,794 Speaker 3: So good, so glamorous. 411 00:19:23,834 --> 00:19:25,674 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it, Okay, Amelia want you Okay. 412 00:19:25,714 --> 00:19:29,593 Speaker 1: Mine is for elder millennials listening, because, as you know, 413 00:19:29,714 --> 00:19:32,714 Speaker 1: that's how I identify and look. I need to give 414 00:19:32,794 --> 00:19:36,474 Speaker 1: us all a pep talk elder millennials listening. I think 415 00:19:36,514 --> 00:19:39,194 Speaker 1: we're stuck in to make up rut, and I think 416 00:19:39,234 --> 00:19:40,793 Speaker 1: we need to break out of it because we're not 417 00:19:40,834 --> 00:19:43,594 Speaker 1: dead yet. In fact, we're quite young by some metrics, 418 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:46,994 Speaker 1: probably not by MS, but we are quite young and 419 00:19:47,034 --> 00:19:50,354 Speaker 1: we need to step it up and refresh our makeup routines. 420 00:19:50,874 --> 00:19:54,874 Speaker 1: Consider this your reminders. So Erica Taylor's YouTube videos and 421 00:19:54,954 --> 00:19:58,114 Speaker 1: Instagram videos and TikTok videos are very good and instructional, 422 00:19:58,674 --> 00:20:01,994 Speaker 1: and she talks about how as you age, your face 423 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:05,234 Speaker 1: appears longer. Whether or not it is longer or not, 424 00:20:05,274 --> 00:20:07,834 Speaker 1: I'm not clear on that, but the poor is babies 425 00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:10,994 Speaker 1: have really wide faces, and then as you get longer, 426 00:20:11,034 --> 00:20:14,273 Speaker 1: your face appears longer and less wide. So what you 427 00:20:14,394 --> 00:20:16,593 Speaker 1: have to do is compensate for the fact that your 428 00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:22,034 Speaker 1: face is less wide by elongating the length of your face. Okay, 429 00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:27,514 Speaker 1: horizon the horizontal width of your face. And one key 430 00:20:27,514 --> 00:20:30,714 Speaker 1: way to do that is through eyeliner. And she says 431 00:20:30,754 --> 00:20:33,514 Speaker 1: you got to go heavy on the eyeliner and extend 432 00:20:33,554 --> 00:20:36,914 Speaker 1: it out beyond the eye to horizontally elongate the face. 433 00:20:36,794 --> 00:20:38,434 Speaker 4: Which is a dangerous game. Amelia. 434 00:20:38,554 --> 00:20:41,674 Speaker 1: It takes technique, it takes I know you're an eyeliner 435 00:20:41,754 --> 00:20:44,354 Speaker 1: queen yourself, so I appreciate that warning. 436 00:20:44,394 --> 00:20:45,914 Speaker 3: But Erica can talk you through it. 437 00:20:46,394 --> 00:20:48,714 Speaker 1: And one key tip is that the dip of your 438 00:20:48,754 --> 00:20:51,434 Speaker 1: eye on the bottom follow that up with the wing. 439 00:20:51,994 --> 00:20:54,554 Speaker 1: Does that make sense, So it's as if your eye 440 00:20:54,674 --> 00:20:58,834 Speaker 1: became longer, you follow the dip. And the one that 441 00:20:59,034 --> 00:21:03,354 Speaker 1: I think is absolutely fool proof is Selena Gomez's The 442 00:21:03,474 --> 00:21:06,634 Speaker 1: Rare beauty eye liner. So is it like a liquid, Yeah, 443 00:21:06,634 --> 00:21:08,714 Speaker 1: it's liquid and you got to shake it up to 444 00:21:08,714 --> 00:21:12,834 Speaker 1: get the pigment. Her reb beauty line is designed to 445 00:21:12,954 --> 00:21:16,114 Speaker 1: be very sort of ergonomic, like easy to use for 446 00:21:16,154 --> 00:21:19,634 Speaker 1: people who might have restricted or limited mobility in their hands. 447 00:21:20,234 --> 00:21:22,513 Speaker 1: I don't happen to have that, but I am not 448 00:21:22,834 --> 00:21:25,674 Speaker 1: very skilled at makeup. And the eyeliner is a bit 449 00:21:25,754 --> 00:21:28,434 Speaker 1: fatter than your normal eyeliner, so it's easier to hold, 450 00:21:28,594 --> 00:21:29,474 Speaker 1: easier to control. 451 00:21:29,514 --> 00:21:31,274 Speaker 2: And then is it a little brush. 452 00:21:31,394 --> 00:21:33,474 Speaker 3: It's a little ink brush. Yeah, it's kind of like 453 00:21:33,514 --> 00:21:33,714 Speaker 3: you're a. 454 00:21:33,754 --> 00:21:37,234 Speaker 1: Calligrapher or something she's scamming. And what I love about 455 00:21:37,274 --> 00:21:40,074 Speaker 1: it is the glide. Erica says, you've got a stamp, 456 00:21:40,234 --> 00:21:43,074 Speaker 1: not draw, But it does have a very nice glide 457 00:21:43,114 --> 00:21:45,114 Speaker 1: to It doesn't feel like it's tugging on your eye. 458 00:21:45,154 --> 00:21:46,273 Speaker 6: What does damn not draw me? 459 00:21:46,874 --> 00:21:49,314 Speaker 1: You know how most people do eyeliner by holding their 460 00:21:49,354 --> 00:21:51,874 Speaker 1: eye with their finger, holding the skin near the eye. 461 00:21:51,914 --> 00:21:54,314 Speaker 1: She says, that distorts the shape of your eye. You 462 00:21:54,394 --> 00:21:56,154 Speaker 1: just look at your eye in the mirror and you 463 00:21:56,234 --> 00:21:57,674 Speaker 1: stamp onto the lash line. 464 00:21:57,954 --> 00:22:03,234 Speaker 2: That's what makeup artistone yep, Okay, this is contentious because God, 465 00:22:03,314 --> 00:22:06,034 Speaker 2: I found this very hard to pick. We're going into books, 466 00:22:06,394 --> 00:22:08,833 Speaker 2: Let's start with you and me. Okay. 467 00:22:09,234 --> 00:22:12,634 Speaker 9: I recommended this on the podcast I think earlier this year. 468 00:22:12,834 --> 00:22:15,154 Speaker 9: It's a book by Yulan Kwan and it's called How 469 00:22:15,194 --> 00:22:18,794 Speaker 9: to End a Love Story. It is one of my 470 00:22:18,994 --> 00:22:22,794 Speaker 9: favorite romance novels. I think I've read it about three 471 00:22:22,834 --> 00:22:25,834 Speaker 9: times this year so far. It's about this woman named 472 00:22:25,874 --> 00:22:28,634 Speaker 9: Helen who's an author and her book is about to 473 00:22:28,634 --> 00:22:31,754 Speaker 9: get made into a TV production, and working on the 474 00:22:31,754 --> 00:22:35,634 Speaker 9: TV production is this guy named Grant. And Grant and 475 00:22:35,714 --> 00:22:38,674 Speaker 9: Helen have some history because when Helen was younger, her 476 00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:41,793 Speaker 9: sister died in a tragic car accident and Grant was 477 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,553 Speaker 9: at the wheel. And the story follows her having to 478 00:22:44,634 --> 00:22:47,714 Speaker 9: work with this man who pretty much ruined her life, 479 00:22:47,754 --> 00:22:51,514 Speaker 9: and it just goes into this really intricate love story 480 00:22:51,754 --> 00:22:55,354 Speaker 9: and how that time in your thirties where she's like 481 00:22:55,394 --> 00:22:57,234 Speaker 9: an Asian woman and she's getting all this pressure from 482 00:22:57,274 --> 00:23:00,834 Speaker 9: her family to settle down, and how she can bring 483 00:23:00,834 --> 00:23:03,594 Speaker 9: in someone who was so hurtful to her family back 484 00:23:03,634 --> 00:23:04,514 Speaker 9: into their lives. 485 00:23:04,594 --> 00:23:07,394 Speaker 4: Do I recognize the name of that author? Have they 486 00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:08,354 Speaker 4: written anything else? 487 00:23:08,794 --> 00:23:10,554 Speaker 5: I'm going to look up what else I've written, because 488 00:23:10,594 --> 00:23:12,194 Speaker 5: that's yeah, that's the name I recognize. 489 00:23:12,194 --> 00:23:14,074 Speaker 9: It's just one of those books that I read it 490 00:23:14,114 --> 00:23:16,034 Speaker 9: in a single day because it's just so light and 491 00:23:16,074 --> 00:23:17,314 Speaker 9: easy and it's a bit funny. 492 00:23:17,674 --> 00:23:19,874 Speaker 6: But it's just I just find different. 493 00:23:19,514 --> 00:23:23,674 Speaker 9: Types of love stories, and especially love stories around people 494 00:23:23,754 --> 00:23:25,154 Speaker 9: my age just so interesting. 495 00:23:25,234 --> 00:23:29,033 Speaker 2: Now you're such a romantic, my lin, it's ruining your life. 496 00:23:29,354 --> 00:23:32,834 Speaker 2: One day, we'll have an interiment that's every Friday. 497 00:23:33,314 --> 00:23:36,874 Speaker 9: Every Friday, we'll always find a topic about my love life, Amelia. 498 00:23:37,554 --> 00:23:38,273 Speaker 3: This is a good. 499 00:23:38,114 --> 00:23:40,314 Speaker 1: Book if you're in a bit of a reading rut, 500 00:23:40,354 --> 00:23:43,033 Speaker 1: like you can't seem to find anything. It's because it's 501 00:23:43,074 --> 00:23:45,394 Speaker 1: a short story collection, so you don't need a really 502 00:23:45,434 --> 00:23:48,554 Speaker 1: long concentration span. It's by a favorite author of mine, 503 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:52,234 Speaker 1: Cootis Sittenfeld. Her most famous book is probably her debut, 504 00:23:52,274 --> 00:23:54,273 Speaker 1: which was called Prep, which is about life in the 505 00:23:54,314 --> 00:23:56,114 Speaker 1: New England boarding school in a seat of coming of 506 00:23:56,154 --> 00:23:59,674 Speaker 1: age story. But I love her writing style. It's very unadorned, 507 00:23:59,754 --> 00:24:02,793 Speaker 1: it's very low key, it's very sardonic. I like books 508 00:24:02,794 --> 00:24:04,994 Speaker 1: with plot, like I don't like being caught up in 509 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:08,234 Speaker 1: writing over plot, and she's very much plot driven. Her 510 00:24:08,234 --> 00:24:10,714 Speaker 1: short story collection. It's her second short story collection. It's 511 00:24:10,714 --> 00:24:13,594 Speaker 1: called Show Don't Tell. It's stories about middle aged women 512 00:24:13,594 --> 00:24:15,634 Speaker 1: who think a lot but aren't necessarily given a lot 513 00:24:15,634 --> 00:24:18,114 Speaker 1: of attention by the outside world. They have a lot 514 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:20,754 Speaker 1: of really interesting inner monologues, and she explores us in 515 00:24:20,754 --> 00:24:25,874 Speaker 1: a monologues. I both cried sad tears and tears of 516 00:24:26,114 --> 00:24:29,354 Speaker 1: literal joy while reading these stories. They take you on 517 00:24:29,394 --> 00:24:32,234 Speaker 1: an emotional rollercoaster about you end the book feeling calm 518 00:24:32,314 --> 00:24:33,034 Speaker 1: and uplifted. 519 00:24:33,394 --> 00:24:34,634 Speaker 2: I just adore her. 520 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:37,314 Speaker 6: She read romantic comedy. 521 00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:39,114 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that book. 522 00:24:41,114 --> 00:24:45,754 Speaker 2: Oh, she's really good at lots of different things. Yeah, 523 00:24:45,794 --> 00:24:48,474 Speaker 2: I'm going to jump in. I found this really hard 524 00:24:48,834 --> 00:24:51,514 Speaker 2: because I don't know how to pick the best of this. 525 00:24:51,754 --> 00:24:54,474 Speaker 2: Because the tactic I went is I was like, WA's 526 00:24:54,554 --> 00:24:56,314 Speaker 2: the book I think about the most that I read 527 00:24:56,314 --> 00:24:59,114 Speaker 2: this year, And it's actually the first book I read 528 00:24:59,114 --> 00:25:01,354 Speaker 2: this year. But it's not new, it's really old. But 529 00:25:01,354 --> 00:25:03,194 Speaker 2: I thought I would throw that one in anyway, right, 530 00:25:03,474 --> 00:25:05,874 Speaker 2: because sometimes you want to read an old book. I 531 00:25:05,914 --> 00:25:08,074 Speaker 2: got recommended by somebody I don't know who, a very 532 00:25:08,114 --> 00:25:12,114 Speaker 2: slight book called Family Happiness by this writer called Laurie Colwyn, 533 00:25:12,154 --> 00:25:15,034 Speaker 2: and she is so good. Oh I got to die. 534 00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:18,434 Speaker 2: Like I didn't really know her. But she's an American writer. 535 00:25:18,594 --> 00:25:20,833 Speaker 2: This book was written in nineteen eighty two. That's how 536 00:25:20,874 --> 00:25:23,874 Speaker 2: old it was. You people weren't born. But like, she 537 00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:26,154 Speaker 2: writes about food and things. But this is a very 538 00:25:26,194 --> 00:25:30,114 Speaker 2: slight novel about a woman in a family in New 539 00:25:30,194 --> 00:25:35,034 Speaker 2: York who appears to have everything very picture perfectly in order. 540 00:25:35,114 --> 00:25:38,194 Speaker 2: She's very enmeshed in her family. She's got the perfect 541 00:25:38,274 --> 00:25:40,194 Speaker 2: husband and the perfect kids, and the parents who live 542 00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:43,754 Speaker 2: around the corner, and yet she's having an affair. And 543 00:25:43,874 --> 00:25:47,513 Speaker 2: it is so good. It is the book that I 544 00:25:47,554 --> 00:25:49,474 Speaker 2: have thought about the most this year, even though it 545 00:25:49,554 --> 00:25:53,794 Speaker 2: was written however many years ago, that is forty odd years. 546 00:25:54,194 --> 00:25:56,154 Speaker 2: So that is the book that I think about the most. 547 00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:57,714 Speaker 2: And then I thought, what is the book that I 548 00:25:57,714 --> 00:26:02,513 Speaker 2: would give someone as a present, particularly a woman, maybe 549 00:26:02,714 --> 00:26:05,634 Speaker 2: someone older, that is new from this year, And that 550 00:26:05,714 --> 00:26:08,313 Speaker 2: for me is Deborah Oswald's One Hundred Years of Betty. 551 00:26:08,674 --> 00:26:11,834 Speaker 2: I recommended this on the show. It is an amazingly 552 00:26:11,874 --> 00:26:14,513 Speaker 2: well thought out book that basically tells the story of 553 00:26:14,554 --> 00:26:17,474 Speaker 2: an Australian woman's life called Betty, of course, who is 554 00:26:17,514 --> 00:26:19,513 Speaker 2: about to turn a hundred, and she looks back on 555 00:26:19,554 --> 00:26:21,914 Speaker 2: her whole life from when she was born in London 556 00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:24,553 Speaker 2: and grew up during the Blitz and then emigrated and 557 00:26:24,594 --> 00:26:28,594 Speaker 2: then all her different friendships and loves and political awakenings 558 00:26:28,594 --> 00:26:30,674 Speaker 2: and sexual awakenings and all this, and it follows her 559 00:26:30,674 --> 00:26:34,474 Speaker 2: through her life and it's just so good and deserves 560 00:26:34,554 --> 00:26:38,594 Speaker 2: so much applause because it's like, what a work. Anyway, 561 00:26:38,874 --> 00:26:43,634 Speaker 2: Holy did you just sneak in two recommendations? You did? 562 00:26:43,714 --> 00:26:46,154 Speaker 2: I'm sorry so anyway, have stopped talking now, But yes, 563 00:26:46,314 --> 00:26:48,354 Speaker 2: it's a great present book, one hundred years of Betty. 564 00:26:48,354 --> 00:26:50,994 Speaker 2: It's funny, it's cute, it's smart. Debra Oswald. 565 00:26:51,794 --> 00:26:55,314 Speaker 5: My book that I have thought about and thought about 566 00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:59,434 Speaker 5: and I just thought was a masterpiece was Elements by 567 00:26:59,514 --> 00:27:02,314 Speaker 5: John Boyne, which I recommended on the show. 568 00:27:02,514 --> 00:27:04,274 Speaker 2: Is that one book, Jesse? Or is that food? 569 00:27:04,394 --> 00:27:07,914 Speaker 4: This is a genius that man understands capitalism? Jesse. 570 00:27:08,074 --> 00:27:10,754 Speaker 5: Some people went and bought Elements, which is a single book. 571 00:27:10,874 --> 00:27:13,634 Speaker 5: Jesse bought the four novellas individually and ended up spending 572 00:27:13,634 --> 00:27:15,273 Speaker 5: sixty dollars on what is one book? 573 00:27:15,354 --> 00:27:16,714 Speaker 6: Were they all released together? 574 00:27:17,274 --> 00:27:19,394 Speaker 5: I think that they were. But you can also buy 575 00:27:19,434 --> 00:27:20,914 Speaker 5: them separately, which I was. 576 00:27:20,834 --> 00:27:23,354 Speaker 3: Like, published, can you tell me what this is? 577 00:27:23,594 --> 00:27:29,394 Speaker 5: Yeah? So there are four novellas which are like Air, Water, Fire, Earth, 578 00:27:30,194 --> 00:27:31,954 Speaker 5: And when I heard that, I went I was all 579 00:27:31,994 --> 00:27:32,874 Speaker 5: a bit thinky isn't it. 580 00:27:32,874 --> 00:27:34,354 Speaker 6: I would have been like Avatar, Yeah. 581 00:27:34,274 --> 00:27:36,834 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. I was like, is this a 582 00:27:36,874 --> 00:27:37,794 Speaker 5: meditation on air? 583 00:27:37,874 --> 00:27:37,954 Speaker 7: Like? 584 00:27:37,994 --> 00:27:38,553 Speaker 4: I don't need that. 585 00:27:39,274 --> 00:27:42,833 Speaker 5: Really, it's about crime when I think about it. The 586 00:27:42,874 --> 00:27:47,554 Speaker 5: first one is about a woman whose husband perpetrated sex 587 00:27:47,594 --> 00:27:50,754 Speaker 5: crimes on he's a swim coach on his students, and 588 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:51,674 Speaker 5: it doesn't go into that. 589 00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:52,594 Speaker 4: It's not super. 590 00:27:52,434 --> 00:27:56,594 Speaker 5: Graphic or detailed. It's actually about his wife and her culpability. 591 00:27:57,074 --> 00:28:00,434 Speaker 5: All the novellas are connected. The next one is about 592 00:28:00,914 --> 00:28:03,273 Speaker 5: like it'll connect someone who was on that island with 593 00:28:03,314 --> 00:28:08,834 Speaker 5: that woman, and he filmed a teammate in his football 594 00:28:08,834 --> 00:28:11,714 Speaker 5: team committing what we think is an active sexual assault, 595 00:28:11,754 --> 00:28:14,074 Speaker 5: and it follows that. And then the other one is 596 00:28:14,114 --> 00:28:18,033 Speaker 5: about a woman who is a perpetrator of sexual assault, 597 00:28:18,034 --> 00:28:20,634 Speaker 5: which I've never read a book from her perspective, like 598 00:28:20,674 --> 00:28:23,273 Speaker 5: it actually follows her. And then the last one is 599 00:28:23,314 --> 00:28:26,514 Speaker 5: one of her victims, and it all comes round and 600 00:28:26,554 --> 00:28:32,474 Speaker 5: like it's all interconnected. But he is the most beautiful, 601 00:28:32,634 --> 00:28:36,434 Speaker 5: insightful writer. I've never read a writer who can write 602 00:28:36,954 --> 00:28:40,194 Speaker 5: women as well as he writes men young old, like. 603 00:28:40,394 --> 00:28:43,154 Speaker 5: His versatility is insane. He wrote boy in the Stripe Pajamas, 604 00:28:43,194 --> 00:28:45,754 Speaker 5: so he is like a very well known writer, but 605 00:28:46,354 --> 00:28:47,394 Speaker 5: he is brilliant. 606 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:48,514 Speaker 4: Elements by John Boyne. 607 00:28:48,754 --> 00:28:52,794 Speaker 2: Okay, we are coming back with our favorite free activity 608 00:28:52,954 --> 00:28:56,514 Speaker 2: or best hack, best activity, something that isn't necessarily something 609 00:28:56,514 --> 00:28:56,954 Speaker 2: to buy. 610 00:28:58,634 --> 00:29:02,474 Speaker 9: So I'm going to go first, and this hack I've 611 00:29:02,514 --> 00:29:05,074 Speaker 9: talked about it on the podcast before. It kind of 612 00:29:05,114 --> 00:29:09,514 Speaker 9: crosses over with skincare, but it is my cleansing hack 613 00:29:09,634 --> 00:29:12,634 Speaker 9: where I literally sit in front of the TV. I 614 00:29:12,674 --> 00:29:15,234 Speaker 9: put on an episode of my favorite TV show, whether 615 00:29:15,274 --> 00:29:17,954 Speaker 9: it's like Friends or You Girl, something that's around fifteen 616 00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:19,994 Speaker 9: to twenty minutes long, and I just sit in front 617 00:29:19,994 --> 00:29:22,474 Speaker 9: of the TV and I use an oil cleanser and 618 00:29:22,514 --> 00:29:25,714 Speaker 9: I just cleanse my face and the amount of stuff 619 00:29:25,754 --> 00:29:28,994 Speaker 9: that comes out of my skin is crazy. But it's 620 00:29:29,034 --> 00:29:32,954 Speaker 9: like the only skincare technique I use that immediately leaves 621 00:29:33,074 --> 00:29:38,594 Speaker 9: my skin super soft and hydrated and just really really juicy. 622 00:29:38,754 --> 00:29:43,034 Speaker 1: How about you, Amelia, Mine is getting the newspaper delivered? 623 00:29:43,194 --> 00:29:45,074 Speaker 2: Yes, you've been doing this this year. 624 00:29:45,154 --> 00:29:50,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly, what do you mean, it's what's the newspapers? 625 00:29:50,714 --> 00:29:51,034 Speaker 2: Is emna? 626 00:29:52,354 --> 00:29:55,594 Speaker 3: First, you shit on the Bob Dylan when. 627 00:29:57,794 --> 00:29:59,594 Speaker 1: This has been the thing I've done this year that 628 00:29:59,634 --> 00:30:03,634 Speaker 1: I think has done the most to help my general 629 00:30:03,674 --> 00:30:07,754 Speaker 1: disposition and temperament and mood in these very stress times. 630 00:30:08,434 --> 00:30:12,434 Speaker 1: I subscribed to my city's newspaper. It happens to be 631 00:30:12,474 --> 00:30:15,354 Speaker 1: the Sitney Morning Herald, but I'm sure you could pick 632 00:30:15,394 --> 00:30:17,794 Speaker 1: whichever newspaper. It could be delivered in your part of 633 00:30:17,834 --> 00:30:21,834 Speaker 1: Australia and it gets delivered to my front door in 634 00:30:21,874 --> 00:30:24,434 Speaker 1: plastic wraps or if it's raining, that's fine, it doesn't 635 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:24,994 Speaker 1: get wet. 636 00:30:25,234 --> 00:30:28,034 Speaker 4: What time does a paper get It gets delivered early. 637 00:30:28,354 --> 00:30:30,274 Speaker 3: I would say before six. 638 00:30:32,594 --> 00:30:35,754 Speaker 2: This used to be a job that young people had. 639 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:39,234 Speaker 3: Question it might be a robot. 640 00:30:38,834 --> 00:30:40,594 Speaker 4: I don't twelve year old. 641 00:30:40,954 --> 00:30:44,794 Speaker 3: But you're not seeing twelve year olds running around time. No, 642 00:30:44,834 --> 00:30:45,914 Speaker 3: it's a really good question. 643 00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:49,314 Speaker 1: And then you bring it inside it and you turn 644 00:30:49,394 --> 00:30:50,314 Speaker 1: the pages and. 645 00:30:50,234 --> 00:30:54,314 Speaker 3: You read it. Here's why it's good. Once you get 646 00:30:54,354 --> 00:30:56,754 Speaker 3: to the end of the newspaper, quite long, isn't it. 647 00:30:56,994 --> 00:30:58,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's got the news of the day 648 00:30:58,994 --> 00:31:01,154 Speaker 1: in it like there's a lot going on right now, 649 00:31:01,194 --> 00:31:03,794 Speaker 1: But you get to the end of the newspaper and 650 00:31:03,794 --> 00:31:06,394 Speaker 1: then you were done with the news for that day. 651 00:31:06,594 --> 00:31:08,674 Speaker 1: You know everything you need to know. In fact, you're 652 00:31:08,714 --> 00:31:11,274 Speaker 1: better informed than most people. But you don't need to 653 00:31:11,314 --> 00:31:13,994 Speaker 1: keep scrolling. You've actually hit the end of the news 654 00:31:14,034 --> 00:31:15,994 Speaker 1: for the day and a group of people have already 655 00:31:15,994 --> 00:31:19,154 Speaker 1: decided what you need to know. They've arranged it for you, 656 00:31:19,234 --> 00:31:21,074 Speaker 1: so you get a sense of what you really need 657 00:31:21,114 --> 00:31:23,714 Speaker 1: to know and what is nice to know, and you 658 00:31:23,754 --> 00:31:26,754 Speaker 1: don't infinitely scroll all day because you've already read the news. 659 00:31:26,994 --> 00:31:31,394 Speaker 2: So m the most important news is on the front page. 660 00:31:31,274 --> 00:31:32,074 Speaker 2: I got it. 661 00:31:32,394 --> 00:31:35,274 Speaker 9: And then where that page is and where do they 662 00:31:35,274 --> 00:31:35,994 Speaker 9: do the comics? 663 00:31:36,754 --> 00:31:37,874 Speaker 3: I don't think they do comics. 664 00:31:38,834 --> 00:31:41,074 Speaker 1: But the other thing I will say about why it's 665 00:31:41,114 --> 00:31:43,354 Speaker 1: so great is that it's very social. So when you're 666 00:31:43,354 --> 00:31:45,594 Speaker 1: looking at your phone and you're scrolling your phone, you 667 00:31:45,674 --> 00:31:48,554 Speaker 1: basically have a sign above your head that says go away, right, Like, 668 00:31:48,634 --> 00:31:50,714 Speaker 1: no one wants to interrupt someone on their phone. When 669 00:31:50,754 --> 00:31:54,314 Speaker 1: you're like flipping through the newspaper, people feel free to 670 00:31:54,354 --> 00:31:56,354 Speaker 1: come up to you and start a conversation. People in 671 00:31:56,394 --> 00:31:58,314 Speaker 1: your house. I obviously don't want to speak to strangers 672 00:31:58,314 --> 00:32:00,514 Speaker 1: and cafes about this, but like my children, wik up 673 00:32:00,554 --> 00:32:02,754 Speaker 1: and say, oh, what's that story, or it will spark 674 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:05,314 Speaker 1: a conversation around the dining table. 675 00:32:05,914 --> 00:32:06,834 Speaker 3: I recommerica. 676 00:32:07,234 --> 00:32:08,074 Speaker 4: I like that a lot. 677 00:32:08,634 --> 00:32:08,994 Speaker 1: All right. 678 00:32:09,154 --> 00:32:11,914 Speaker 5: My hack has been, as I've talked about a lot 679 00:32:11,914 --> 00:32:14,114 Speaker 5: this year, I have been trying not to buy anything new. 680 00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:16,994 Speaker 5: I have not totally achieved that. There have been moments 681 00:32:17,034 --> 00:32:19,434 Speaker 5: I think pregnancy really threw me through a curveball. 682 00:32:19,554 --> 00:32:21,274 Speaker 2: Do you reckon that you've bought a lot less? 683 00:32:22,394 --> 00:32:26,354 Speaker 5: You're not made that ninety percentI yeah, amazing, right, And 684 00:32:26,434 --> 00:32:29,074 Speaker 5: so I've spoken a lot about deepop, spoken a lot 685 00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:32,354 Speaker 5: about Facebook Marketplace. Now that I've done this for a year, 686 00:32:32,554 --> 00:32:35,794 Speaker 5: I can never go back, like I can't. There are 687 00:32:35,874 --> 00:32:38,554 Speaker 5: certain websites I won't name them that I cannot use 688 00:32:38,594 --> 00:32:39,354 Speaker 5: because I have like. 689 00:32:39,314 --> 00:32:40,754 Speaker 4: A sick feeling when I go on them. 690 00:32:40,794 --> 00:32:44,194 Speaker 5: Right, So now from everything, for I was speaking the 691 00:32:44,234 --> 00:32:47,074 Speaker 5: other week, I needed a belly band for pregnancy, right, 692 00:32:47,554 --> 00:32:50,154 Speaker 5: and that's one hundred and something dollars, and I went, 693 00:32:50,874 --> 00:32:53,554 Speaker 5: I can't buy a new one. I just can't because 694 00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:57,314 Speaker 5: I know that belly bands are sitting in thousands of 695 00:32:57,354 --> 00:32:58,754 Speaker 5: women's homes. 696 00:32:58,314 --> 00:33:01,034 Speaker 4: All around like that. They use it for a certain period. 697 00:33:01,074 --> 00:33:02,954 Speaker 2: Literally only use it for a few months, yes. 698 00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:07,074 Speaker 5: Like talk about landfill is a belly band during pregnant. 699 00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:09,434 Speaker 4: It kind of helps you. It lifts up the pressure 700 00:33:09,474 --> 00:33:09,754 Speaker 4: a bit. 701 00:33:09,994 --> 00:33:11,194 Speaker 2: So really you. 702 00:33:11,194 --> 00:33:14,154 Speaker 5: Only use it for four months maybe, and then it 703 00:33:14,234 --> 00:33:17,914 Speaker 5: just sits there. And so I actually went on Facebook 704 00:33:17,914 --> 00:33:20,914 Speaker 5: marketplace found someone who was a couple of kilometers away 705 00:33:21,074 --> 00:33:23,554 Speaker 5: who had never opened hers and it was sitting in 706 00:33:23,594 --> 00:33:25,234 Speaker 5: her house. I got a brand new one for a 707 00:33:25,274 --> 00:33:27,954 Speaker 5: third of the price, picked it up. The other thing 708 00:33:27,994 --> 00:33:31,314 Speaker 5: has been like Lunar needs a new hat, and I go, 709 00:33:31,474 --> 00:33:32,234 Speaker 5: I just can't. 710 00:33:32,034 --> 00:33:34,274 Speaker 3: Go into West into our old hat she grew out. 711 00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:36,474 Speaker 2: And you should know how often children lose. 712 00:33:36,354 --> 00:33:38,954 Speaker 4: Hats, right, And I go, She's gonna wear this hat 713 00:33:38,994 --> 00:33:40,754 Speaker 4: for one summer. I just can't go and buy a 714 00:33:40,794 --> 00:33:42,274 Speaker 4: new one anymore. It irks me. 715 00:33:42,674 --> 00:33:44,794 Speaker 5: So I go onto my marketplace. I go on to 716 00:33:45,034 --> 00:33:47,394 Speaker 5: deep Hop whatever I find it there is. If you 717 00:33:47,474 --> 00:33:51,634 Speaker 5: go into marketplace, they are selling an entire child's wardrobe 718 00:33:51,834 --> 00:33:54,954 Speaker 5: in size three that you can all bluey coated. 719 00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:57,274 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm not on Facebook, as I may have 720 00:33:57,434 --> 00:34:00,314 Speaker 1: asked you, is Deepop okay? Can I use that? 721 00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:01,194 Speaker 3: Is that fine? 722 00:34:01,274 --> 00:34:04,554 Speaker 5: Deepop's great for everything, like literally, So for example, I 723 00:34:04,594 --> 00:34:06,714 Speaker 5: talked about bags, wanting a bag, someone sent me a 724 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:11,153 Speaker 5: unicorn to this Uniclo bag and I went, it's there 725 00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:13,553 Speaker 5: at the moment for however much, and I went, oh, 726 00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:15,594 Speaker 5: look on deep Hop. I just found exactly the same 727 00:34:15,634 --> 00:34:17,594 Speaker 5: bag on deep Hoop heavily discounted. 728 00:34:17,714 --> 00:34:20,873 Speaker 4: This person had never used it. Like, just whatever you do. 729 00:34:21,314 --> 00:34:23,074 Speaker 5: I'm not saying you need to buy everything second hand, 730 00:34:23,314 --> 00:34:25,234 Speaker 5: but just put it into deeper. 731 00:34:25,194 --> 00:34:27,674 Speaker 1: And have a look ever seen, Like have you ever 732 00:34:27,714 --> 00:34:29,914 Speaker 1: gotten something it didn't meet the description? 733 00:34:30,394 --> 00:34:30,634 Speaker 2: Never? 734 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:31,474 Speaker 4: Never? 735 00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:34,154 Speaker 5: Like people are really really honest about Sometimes I. 736 00:34:34,794 --> 00:34:36,873 Speaker 2: Get it from deep hop like because the thing that 737 00:34:37,194 --> 00:34:40,954 Speaker 2: I get stuck with with the marketplace is the admin involved, 738 00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:43,354 Speaker 2: like they're having a drive around. And also where I live, 739 00:34:43,394 --> 00:34:45,674 Speaker 2: it's harder not in cities, et cetera. But in deep 740 00:34:45,714 --> 00:34:47,314 Speaker 2: Hop is the seller going to mail it to me? 741 00:34:47,674 --> 00:34:49,314 Speaker 4: Yes, And that's the easier bit. 742 00:34:49,394 --> 00:34:51,754 Speaker 5: So Deeper I probably got it at the same time 743 00:34:51,754 --> 00:34:53,554 Speaker 5: I'd get it if I've got it from uniclo like 744 00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:55,674 Speaker 5: and the person just sends it directly to me. Sometimes 745 00:34:55,674 --> 00:34:58,354 Speaker 5: a person will say Hey, I think you're around the corner. 746 00:34:58,394 --> 00:35:00,473 Speaker 4: Can I just drop it? And I go, yeah, that's fine, Like. 747 00:35:00,434 --> 00:35:03,074 Speaker 5: It's so much better for the environment, and you feel 748 00:35:03,074 --> 00:35:04,434 Speaker 5: good and it's cheaper. 749 00:35:04,554 --> 00:35:08,234 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. My last one is it's about 750 00:35:08,514 --> 00:35:12,714 Speaker 2: recipes that I made this year. The most discussed that 751 00:35:12,834 --> 00:35:15,634 Speaker 2: I get asked for the most is the easiest, which 752 00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:17,554 Speaker 2: is Virginia Treoli's green beans. 753 00:35:17,674 --> 00:35:20,514 Speaker 3: Even, I, yes, what does that entail? 754 00:35:20,714 --> 00:35:23,354 Speaker 2: So earlier this year? I think it was earlier this year. 755 00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:27,354 Speaker 2: I interviewed Virginia Treoli, the esteem journalist, about a memoir 756 00:35:27,394 --> 00:35:29,794 Speaker 2: she's written. It's all about side dishes called bit on 757 00:35:29,834 --> 00:35:31,913 Speaker 2: the Side. It's got some great recipes in it. From 758 00:35:31,954 --> 00:35:35,074 Speaker 2: that book. Brent and I our favorite. You would love this, Amelia. 759 00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:37,554 Speaker 2: Brent and I have adopted her Friday night fog, which 760 00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:40,034 Speaker 2: is a cocktail which has the best name because it 761 00:35:40,074 --> 00:35:41,873 Speaker 2: does just give you a Friday night fog, just a 762 00:35:41,954 --> 00:35:45,834 Speaker 2: nice night, which is like it's a pink grapefruit vodka 763 00:35:45,994 --> 00:35:50,034 Speaker 2: ice cold. Yeah, so good. So there's that, But you know, 764 00:35:50,194 --> 00:35:54,554 Speaker 2: drink responsibly, et cetera. But her green beans, her Grandma's 765 00:35:54,554 --> 00:35:56,994 Speaker 2: green beans, is the easiest recipe you'll ever make, and 766 00:35:56,994 --> 00:35:59,194 Speaker 2: they've been bringing me joy all year. And all you 767 00:35:59,234 --> 00:36:01,234 Speaker 2: do is you get so say it's Saturday, and on 768 00:36:01,274 --> 00:36:02,993 Speaker 2: Saturday night, you know you're going to have some meat 769 00:36:03,074 --> 00:36:04,634 Speaker 2: or some fish or whatever with your partner, and you're 770 00:36:04,634 --> 00:36:07,674 Speaker 2: going to have a nice little dinner beans or not 771 00:36:07,794 --> 00:36:09,474 Speaker 2: with your partner, well with anyone. 772 00:36:09,914 --> 00:36:17,434 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry. 773 00:36:16,994 --> 00:36:19,634 Speaker 2: All you do is you planed to green beans, so 774 00:36:19,634 --> 00:36:21,954 Speaker 2: you boil them really quickly. Actually, she doesn't approve of 775 00:36:21,994 --> 00:36:24,754 Speaker 2: the crunch. She thinks that's a trendy affectation. And then 776 00:36:24,794 --> 00:36:27,354 Speaker 2: your beans should be well cooked. But anyway, green beans cooked, 777 00:36:27,914 --> 00:36:29,514 Speaker 2: and then you put them in a bowl on the 778 00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:32,634 Speaker 2: side in your kitchen with some crush, garlic, some olive oil, 779 00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:34,674 Speaker 2: a splash of wine, vinegar, salt, and pepper, and then 780 00:36:34,714 --> 00:36:37,913 Speaker 2: you just leave them to sit there all afternoon and 781 00:36:37,994 --> 00:36:45,474 Speaker 2: they become the most delicious, soury sweetie. It's not really 782 00:36:45,474 --> 00:36:47,354 Speaker 2: picky because you don't put it so much that it's 783 00:36:47,354 --> 00:36:49,954 Speaker 2: like underwater. You just like dress it like a salad 784 00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:51,754 Speaker 2: kind of and then you just leave it to the side, 785 00:36:51,794 --> 00:36:53,393 Speaker 2: and then when you're going to have your dinner that night, 786 00:36:53,674 --> 00:36:55,754 Speaker 2: you pull them out and these will be the best 787 00:36:55,794 --> 00:36:56,913 Speaker 2: green beans. 788 00:36:56,634 --> 00:36:57,754 Speaker 4: Of your life. 789 00:36:58,034 --> 00:37:00,794 Speaker 2: That is my favorite hack. We've got into cooking a 790 00:37:00,794 --> 00:37:02,914 Speaker 2: bit more this year. Matilda and I made mango pancakes 791 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,074 Speaker 2: and recipe to eats it last weekend and that was 792 00:37:05,514 --> 00:37:09,634 Speaker 2: the most fun anyway. That's that for me. Are we 793 00:37:09,674 --> 00:37:11,514 Speaker 2: at the end of the first episode of Recognized? 794 00:37:11,914 --> 00:37:12,954 Speaker 3: We got to talk all. 795 00:37:12,874 --> 00:37:14,594 Speaker 4: Day about recommendations. 796 00:37:14,714 --> 00:37:17,554 Speaker 2: I love it, which is lucky because out louders, we 797 00:37:17,634 --> 00:37:20,953 Speaker 2: have got another episode coming to you after Christmas on 798 00:37:21,034 --> 00:37:23,874 Speaker 2: the twenty ninth with more recommendations. 799 00:37:24,194 --> 00:37:26,594 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for listening to this special episode 800 00:37:26,634 --> 00:37:29,554 Speaker 5: of Mum Maya out Loud. Also, if you've been madly 801 00:37:29,594 --> 00:37:32,114 Speaker 5: reading this time of year, and if you want to 802 00:37:32,194 --> 00:37:35,314 Speaker 5: join us for our summer book club is coming up 803 00:37:35,354 --> 00:37:38,714 Speaker 5: this weekend on Sunday, the twenty eighth of December. The 804 00:37:38,794 --> 00:37:42,074 Speaker 5: book we have been reading is Emily Henry's Great, Big, 805 00:37:42,154 --> 00:37:45,474 Speaker 5: Beautiful Life, and we've got a whole episode coming where 806 00:37:45,674 --> 00:37:49,154 Speaker 5: we debrief and if you are looking for more to 807 00:37:49,714 --> 00:37:53,714 Speaker 5: listen to, every MoMA Maya podcast is curating your summer 808 00:37:53,754 --> 00:37:57,274 Speaker 5: listening right across our network, from pop culture to beauty 809 00:37:57,554 --> 00:38:01,074 Speaker 5: to powerful interviews. There is something for everyone. There's a 810 00:38:01,114 --> 00:38:03,594 Speaker 5: link in our show notes and we will be back 811 00:38:03,754 --> 00:38:07,434 Speaker 5: to regular programming on Monday, the twelfth of January. 812 00:38:07,434 --> 00:38:11,394 Speaker 6: Bye Bye Bye 813 00:38:13,354 --> 00:38:16,593 Speaker 9: Mammy acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which 814 00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:17,994 Speaker 9: we have recorded this podcast.