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Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Hey, I'm Taylor Strano.

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Speaker 2: This is Muma MEA's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie.

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Speaker 2: Australia's relationship with Israel is tumbling to new loads visa standoffs,

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Speaker 2: prime ministerial public insults and Australian Jewish leaders waiting to

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Speaker 2: call out political overreach. If you've missed the details this week,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, We've compiled it all here for you. Plus,

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Speaker 2: after a huge national productivity roundtable, AI was on the agenda,

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Speaker 2: but will it boost our economy or steal our jobs?

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Speaker 2: Today we look at the roles most likely to go first,

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Speaker 2: and witch industries are already cutting workers in favor of

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Speaker 2: automation before we get there. Here's Tarlie Blackman with the

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Speaker 2: latest from The Quickie newsroom for Friday, August twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Taylor. Tensions between Australia and Israel deepened with Israeli

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Benjamin Netna, who criticizing Anthony Albanesi's leadership in

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Speaker 3: a sharp interview on Sky News. The clash follows Australia's

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Speaker 3: plan to support recognizing a Palestinian state at the United

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Speaker 3: Nations in September, alongside UK, France and Canada. Netnah who

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Speaker 3: called the move a reward for terror, accusing Albanesie of

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Speaker 3: weakness in the face of hermas. Meanwhile, Israel continues heavy

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Speaker 3: military operations in Gaza, with Nettanna who suggesting the conflict

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Speaker 3: may end soon. Bruce Lohman's appeal over his failed defamation

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Speaker 3: case has ended earlier than expected after Federal Court judges

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Speaker 3: expressed frustration with how his lawyer, Zali Burrows presented her arguments.

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Speaker 3: Lomann was appealing Justice Michael Lee's ruling that, on the

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Speaker 3: balance of probabilities, he raped Brittany Higgins at Parliament House

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, a finding made during his case against

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Speaker 3: Network ten and Lisa Wilkinson. On day two, Burrows accused

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Speaker 3: Justice of creating his own version of events, calling the

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Speaker 3: trial a quasi rape. Trial judges Craig Colvin and Michael

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Speaker 3: Wigney challenged her claims, with Whigney saying he was struggling

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Speaker 3: to understand her argument. Two requests for adjournment were denied.

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Speaker 3: The hearing ended early and the judges have reserved their

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Speaker 3: decision for.

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Speaker 4: A later date.

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Speaker 3: Australia's education ministers will meet today to consider a major

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Speaker 3: overhaul of child safety in early learning centers following disturbing

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Speaker 3: abuse allegations. The federal government is putting forward a one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty nine million dollar package, the largest in

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Speaker 3: the sector's history, to fund key reforms over four years.

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Speaker 3: Key proposals include a national register of childcare workers, mandatory

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Speaker 3: child safety training, increased spot checks, a mobile phone ban,

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Speaker 3: Education Minister Jason Clare said parents deserve to know their

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Speaker 3: of ability in the sector. The reforms followed charges against

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Speaker 3: Melbourne worker Joshua Dale Brown, who allegedly abused eight children

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Speaker 3: and worked at twenty four centers. Early Childhood Minister Jess

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Speaker 3: Walsh sair governments would act shoulder to shoulder to improve safety.

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Speaker 3: Millie Bobby Brown has revealed she and husband Jake Bonjovi

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Speaker 3: have welcomed their first child together through adoption. The twenty

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Speaker 3: one year old Stranger Things star shared the news on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: writing this summer we welcomed our sweet baby girl through adoption.

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Speaker 3: We are beyond excited to embark on this beautiful next

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Speaker 3: chapter of parenthood in both peace and privacy. Brown and

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Speaker 3: bon Jovi secretly tied the knot in May twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and later celebrated with family and friends in Italy. The

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Speaker 3: confirmed they were dating shortly after. In past interviews, Brown

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Speaker 3: it's been a dream of her since childhood. She also

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Speaker 3: shared plans to shave her head again when becoming, calling

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Speaker 3: it a liberating experience. The couple hasn't shared further details,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Darli. Next, Israel and Australia trade diplomatic jabs. If

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Speaker 2: you feel like Australia and Israel have been at odds

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Speaker 2: more than usual, you're not imagining things. Relations between the

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Speaker 2: following the Albanese government's August eleven decision to recognize Palestinian statehood,

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Speaker 2: a move that's triggered tit for tat diplomatic spats.

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Speaker 4: The international community's vision for a just and lasting peace

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Speaker 2: First, Israeli officials canceled several visas belonging to Australian diplomats.

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Speaker 2: Things escalated this week when Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin ntna

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Speaker 2: Diplomats and community leaders alike are calling for kalm but

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Speaker 2: as each side doubles down on its position, the rift

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Speaker 2: in our twice daily news headlines. This week, policymakers and

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Speaker 2: Part of the agenda was artificial intelligence, with AI now

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Speaker 2: powering everything from chatbots to medical diagnoses. The big question

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Speaker 2: for politicians and regular workers alike is well more jobs

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Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum says we should brace for change.

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Speaker 2: Up to sixty percent of roles could be radically altered

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Speaker 2: by AI by twenty fifty, and it isn't just a

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Speaker 2: far of prediction. Companies are acting now. Atlasian's Mike cannon

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Speaker 2: of new AI technology, a stark example of how rapidly

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Speaker 2: all in the name of staying competitive. Microsoft recently analyzed

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Speaker 2: with jobs are most at risk using something called an

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Speaker 2: AI applicability score, measuring how easily the generative AI can take.

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Speaker 2: Experts warn the economic robot takeover isn't about replacing every

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Speaker 2: work overnight, but about removing layers of process. But what

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Speaker 2: does this all mean for your job, your salary and

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Speaker 2: the future of work in Australia. To get some clarity,

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Speaker 2: Katie Powers, Katie give it to me straight? Is AI

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Speaker 2: going to replace me?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Basically, Microsoft did this big study to understand the effects

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Speaker 1: from that they came up with something called an AI

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Speaker 1: applicability score. This is basically a measure of how AI

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Speaker 1: The higher the score, the more exposed your job is

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Speaker 1: The jobs that are most exposed to automation are ones

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Speaker 2: But that's you, Yes, is AI coming for your job?

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Speaker 2: Though surely there's like a level of particular data entry

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Speaker 1: So what Microsoft also found is that the jobs with

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Speaker 2: So then I guess I don't need to worry that

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not.

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Speaker 2: What other kind of jobs are safe from complete automation

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Speaker 1: Well, the number one job that is safe, according to

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Speaker 1: Nurses are also probably less likely to be automated.

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Speaker 2: So like that makes sense to me, right, because nurses

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Speaker 2: we'll ever get to a stage where these kind of roles,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so AI is gonna touch every role. The most

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Speaker 1: important thing is gaining digital literacy and learning how to

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Speaker 2: So if you're in one of those jobs that is,

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Speaker 2: we all be rushing out to upskill then and change

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Speaker 1: Definitely don't need to change careers, but yes, upskilling would

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Speaker 1: be important, focusing on the skills that AI can't easily replicate,

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Speaker 1: like creativity, judgment, and human connection. What's interesting is that

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Speaker 1: a lot of entry level jobs are going to change

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Speaker 1: because In the past, interns and entry level employees would

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Speaker 1: doing research, and data entry. But AI is really good

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Speaker 2: Well that's interesting. So when you're applying, like say, if

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Speaker 2: mind then? I mean, you've written an article for the

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Speaker 2: Mummere website about these about how we future prove our careers.

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Speaker 2: What's the advice out there?

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Speaker 1: So I think the key is learning to work with

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Speaker 1: AI rather than seeing it as a threat. You don't

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Speaker 1: how to work with it. So it's important to stay

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Speaker 1: curious about it and to practice using it in your

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