1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:20,464 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,024 --> 00:00:23,264 Speaker 2: I'm so excited, but I'm so scared. 5 00:00:27,464 --> 00:00:30,264 Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 6 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:32,664 Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 7 00:00:32,264 --> 00:00:33,224 Speaker 2: And I'm m Vernon. 8 00:00:33,504 --> 00:00:36,624 Speaker 1: And on today's show, Brad Pitt's kids have finally been 9 00:00:36,664 --> 00:00:39,024 Speaker 1: able to, I guess, speak their truth about him and 10 00:00:39,064 --> 00:00:41,744 Speaker 1: some of the horrific things that they say. He's done. 11 00:00:41,864 --> 00:00:44,904 Speaker 1: He's back in the headlines for something his daughter has said, 12 00:00:44,944 --> 00:00:47,544 Speaker 1: and obviously it's all come back onto Angelina Jolly. So 13 00:00:47,584 --> 00:00:49,704 Speaker 1: we're going to get into all the things that Hollywood 14 00:00:49,704 --> 00:00:51,544 Speaker 1: doesn't want you to know about Brad Pitt. 15 00:00:51,744 --> 00:00:55,304 Speaker 2: But first, but first, just when you thought Bridgeton Chat 16 00:00:55,344 --> 00:00:56,584 Speaker 2: was over, we're back again. 17 00:00:56,704 --> 00:00:58,304 Speaker 1: What do you mean over? We've got the whole second 18 00:00:58,344 --> 00:00:58,984 Speaker 1: half of the season. 19 00:00:59,464 --> 00:01:00,824 Speaker 2: We were taking a bit of a break, you know, 20 00:01:01,224 --> 00:01:03,264 Speaker 2: like similar to Award Show season when there's a bit 21 00:01:03,304 --> 00:01:03,704 Speaker 2: of a lull. 22 00:01:03,824 --> 00:01:04,744 Speaker 1: Yes, and now we're back. 23 00:01:04,824 --> 00:01:08,064 Speaker 2: We're back because part two, Season three is going to 24 00:01:08,104 --> 00:01:12,544 Speaker 2: be out on June thirteenth, which is week next next Thursday, 25 00:01:12,744 --> 00:01:17,464 Speaker 2: and Netflix have just dropped a second trailer for part two. 26 00:01:19,344 --> 00:01:26,104 Speaker 1: Dearest gentle Reader, last night an announcement Cake with great 27 00:01:26,104 --> 00:01:30,624 Speaker 1: speed quot him bridgiton a trop to Canelopee feathering. 28 00:01:30,744 --> 00:01:34,344 Speaker 2: Ta needs fresh air when there is fresh gossip. 29 00:01:35,784 --> 00:01:38,824 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sure face watching that. I'd watched it. 30 00:01:38,984 --> 00:01:41,304 Speaker 1: Spiller's listening. Emily hadn't she just watched it for the 31 00:01:41,344 --> 00:01:44,144 Speaker 1: first time. You look so distressed during that. It's meant 32 00:01:44,184 --> 00:01:45,304 Speaker 1: to be a fun, sexy thing. 33 00:01:45,424 --> 00:01:47,784 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I want to watch part one again. 34 00:01:47,944 --> 00:01:50,984 Speaker 2: That was too much. This is too much. The quote 35 00:01:51,264 --> 00:01:54,304 Speaker 2: ladies don't have dreams, they have husbands. 36 00:01:54,144 --> 00:01:56,744 Speaker 1: Which I know everyone's going to make Poorsha Featherington a 37 00:01:56,824 --> 00:01:58,784 Speaker 1: villain for that, But she's just a lady living in 38 00:01:58,784 --> 00:02:00,784 Speaker 1: a time and she knows what she has to do survive. 39 00:02:00,944 --> 00:02:03,144 Speaker 1: Actually quiet, I'm on her side with that. So if 40 00:02:03,144 --> 00:02:05,024 Speaker 1: anyone who hasn't seen the trailer will post it on 41 00:02:05,064 --> 00:02:07,424 Speaker 1: our Instagram account and can't speak at the moment, so 42 00:02:07,544 --> 00:02:10,224 Speaker 1: I'll just jump in. This is picking up right after 43 00:02:10,424 --> 00:02:13,784 Speaker 1: part one of season three ended, where it's all sexy 44 00:02:13,784 --> 00:02:16,504 Speaker 1: and lovely and Colin and Penelope are engaged, but now 45 00:02:16,544 --> 00:02:18,824 Speaker 1: they have to deal with the massive fallout of the 46 00:02:18,864 --> 00:02:21,424 Speaker 1: fact they're about to get married and he hates Lady 47 00:02:21,464 --> 00:02:24,704 Speaker 1: Whistledown and she is Lady Whistledown and he doesn't know that. 48 00:02:24,784 --> 00:02:27,624 Speaker 1: And Eloise, her former best friend, and his sister is 49 00:02:27,664 --> 00:02:29,504 Speaker 1: now threatening to reveal. It's all going to come. 50 00:02:29,464 --> 00:02:32,984 Speaker 2: Out and the clock hits midnight like Cinderella. Yeah, wearing 51 00:02:33,024 --> 00:02:35,704 Speaker 2: the red lip like Anne Berlin. So many hidden layers 52 00:02:35,704 --> 00:02:39,384 Speaker 2: in there, so so good. So Part two of season 53 00:02:39,424 --> 00:02:41,864 Speaker 2: three of Bridgington is coming out June thirteenth. There's been 54 00:02:41,944 --> 00:02:44,664 Speaker 2: so much speculation of why did Netflix cut it in two? 55 00:02:45,304 --> 00:02:47,344 Speaker 2: This is why because they would have just had this 56 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:49,544 Speaker 2: one big hit when the season came out of like 57 00:02:49,584 --> 00:02:52,264 Speaker 2: you know, press coverage and chatting, and now they had 58 00:02:52,264 --> 00:02:55,064 Speaker 2: that big wave of press with the first part, and 59 00:02:55,104 --> 00:02:57,944 Speaker 2: now they've been able to drop another trailer build the anticipation, 60 00:02:58,184 --> 00:03:00,464 Speaker 2: so it's kind of like two massive publicity hits for 61 00:03:00,504 --> 00:03:01,064 Speaker 2: one season. 62 00:03:01,144 --> 00:03:04,264 Speaker 1: So clever. I'm so excited, but I'm so scared we'll 63 00:03:04,264 --> 00:03:06,024 Speaker 1: have to do a full debrief of the whole season. 64 00:03:06,064 --> 00:03:10,824 Speaker 2: I have so much to Saya, Nana, Angelina, Jolie and 65 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:15,504 Speaker 2: Brad Pitt's daughter Shiloh is petitioning to legally change her name. 66 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:19,344 Speaker 2: So her name up until now was Shiloh Jolly Pitt 67 00:03:19,464 --> 00:03:22,664 Speaker 2: hyphenated and she wants to drop the pit and just 68 00:03:22,744 --> 00:03:26,704 Speaker 2: go by Shiloh Jolly. So a source told People magazine 69 00:03:26,704 --> 00:03:29,224 Speaker 2: that Shiloh has actually hired her own lawyer, which she 70 00:03:29,224 --> 00:03:32,304 Speaker 2: he's paying for herself to get this done. This comes 71 00:03:32,424 --> 00:03:36,264 Speaker 2: as the latest update in the entire Brad and Angelina divorce. 72 00:03:36,344 --> 00:03:39,824 Speaker 2: Revelations have been going on for so long, outlets have 73 00:03:39,904 --> 00:03:43,704 Speaker 2: kind of linked these moves to Joli's abuse claims against Pitt. 74 00:03:44,104 --> 00:03:47,384 Speaker 2: These have been alleged in various court documents during their 75 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:51,184 Speaker 2: divorce proceedings, and they've been dragging on for eighty years since. 76 00:03:51,744 --> 00:03:54,144 Speaker 2: One of the biggest incidents that the public are aware 77 00:03:54,144 --> 00:03:57,744 Speaker 2: of is what happened in twenty sixteen where Angeline Jolly 78 00:03:57,864 --> 00:04:01,264 Speaker 2: claimed that Brad Pitt was drunk and abusive towards her 79 00:04:01,344 --> 00:04:04,984 Speaker 2: and her children on a private plane. And I feel 80 00:04:04,984 --> 00:04:07,344 Speaker 2: like this isn't going to be the last or hearing 81 00:04:07,384 --> 00:04:09,704 Speaker 2: about everything that's unraveling in this divorce. 82 00:04:10,344 --> 00:04:12,144 Speaker 1: So much of the news coverage around this is the 83 00:04:12,144 --> 00:04:14,744 Speaker 1: fact that Shiloh was putting this out there, and there's 84 00:04:14,784 --> 00:04:16,904 Speaker 1: been a lot of blame on Angelina, But if you 85 00:04:16,944 --> 00:04:19,504 Speaker 1: look back at the history of this family, so Brad 86 00:04:19,544 --> 00:04:22,624 Speaker 1: and Angelina shared six kids together and they were married 87 00:04:22,704 --> 00:04:26,024 Speaker 1: for six years after divorcing in twenty sixteen, after that 88 00:04:26,144 --> 00:04:29,064 Speaker 1: awful report came out from the plane that did go 89 00:04:29,064 --> 00:04:32,184 Speaker 1: to the FBI and was investigated, and no further charges 90 00:04:32,184 --> 00:04:34,184 Speaker 1: were laid, which is very different. I think people get 91 00:04:34,184 --> 00:04:36,424 Speaker 1: confused about that. It's very different to be not found 92 00:04:36,424 --> 00:04:39,464 Speaker 1: guilty and no charges were laid, because it just means 93 00:04:39,464 --> 00:04:42,464 Speaker 1: there was enough evidence to pursue like a criminal case, 94 00:04:42,624 --> 00:04:44,664 Speaker 1: like both parties didn't go that way. It doesn't mean 95 00:04:44,704 --> 00:04:47,904 Speaker 1: he was found not guilty of the allegations. I think 96 00:04:47,904 --> 00:04:49,184 Speaker 1: that's really important to remember. 97 00:04:49,384 --> 00:04:51,424 Speaker 2: And I think it also I remember when all of 98 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:54,384 Speaker 2: that happened, and I think no charges were laid made 99 00:04:54,464 --> 00:04:57,064 Speaker 2: people think it wasn't a big deal, because I do 100 00:04:57,184 --> 00:05:00,224 Speaker 2: remember the commentary around that of people saying stuff like, 101 00:05:00,584 --> 00:05:03,064 Speaker 2: oh my god, he's crazy, but he's still beautiful, still love. 102 00:05:03,144 --> 00:05:06,064 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the thing. People have always gravitated towards him, 103 00:05:06,104 --> 00:05:08,784 Speaker 1: I guess because he's seen as this Hollywood heart throb. 104 00:05:08,984 --> 00:05:11,864 Speaker 1: He's one of the most untouchable stars in Hollywood. During 105 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:14,584 Speaker 1: the whole kind of breakup from Jennifer Aniston and getting 106 00:05:14,624 --> 00:05:16,984 Speaker 1: with Angelina Jolly, she was painted as the villain and 107 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:19,344 Speaker 1: it was always poor jen but Brad was the golden boy. 108 00:05:19,744 --> 00:05:21,864 Speaker 1: And the allegations to the plane are quite intense, that 109 00:05:21,944 --> 00:05:24,784 Speaker 1: he was being a physically abusive to the children, that 110 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:27,144 Speaker 1: he was choking Angelina was one of the allegations. He 111 00:05:27,224 --> 00:05:30,264 Speaker 1: was pouring alcohol over her head. And ever since that 112 00:05:30,344 --> 00:05:32,584 Speaker 1: report came out, things for this family have never been 113 00:05:32,624 --> 00:05:35,104 Speaker 1: the same. So just ocasion, not across the family. So 114 00:05:35,144 --> 00:05:39,184 Speaker 1: Maddox is the oldest, and then Packs and then Zahara, 115 00:05:39,384 --> 00:05:42,464 Speaker 1: and then there's Shiloh, and then there's twins Knox and 116 00:05:42,584 --> 00:05:44,944 Speaker 1: Vivian their age order, but that's all the kids in 117 00:05:44,984 --> 00:05:47,784 Speaker 1: one and so Maddox the oldest, hasn't really said much 118 00:05:47,784 --> 00:05:50,624 Speaker 1: about his father. When he first started going to college, 119 00:05:50,864 --> 00:05:53,784 Speaker 1: that poor kid, like paparazzi were camped outside because people 120 00:05:53,864 --> 00:05:56,704 Speaker 1: knew that Angelina Jolly was walking him in. People would 121 00:05:56,704 --> 00:05:58,824 Speaker 1: shout out like, when's Brad gonna come, and he was like, 122 00:05:58,864 --> 00:06:01,224 Speaker 1: there's no plans for him to come. That was the 123 00:06:01,264 --> 00:06:03,904 Speaker 1: first moment. And then when Zahara was in college. She 124 00:06:04,024 --> 00:06:05,944 Speaker 1: joined a sorority and a part of that she had 125 00:06:05,984 --> 00:06:08,144 Speaker 1: to like do some sort of a dance performance where 126 00:06:08,184 --> 00:06:10,624 Speaker 1: she screamed out her name and she kept saying is 127 00:06:10,664 --> 00:06:14,464 Speaker 1: Ahara Mali Jolie, So no pitch. She dropped it. And 128 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:18,344 Speaker 1: now with Shiloh taking her name off. Also, Vivian, the 129 00:06:18,384 --> 00:06:20,704 Speaker 1: other daughter, has been in a school play and she's 130 00:06:20,744 --> 00:06:22,864 Speaker 1: just listed as Vivian Jolly's I think all the kids 131 00:06:22,904 --> 00:06:26,104 Speaker 1: have dropped Brad Pitt's name. And in the court documents 132 00:06:26,224 --> 00:06:28,624 Speaker 1: during the very long custody battle that went on for 133 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:31,824 Speaker 1: so long, Angelina's legal team was saying that the kids 134 00:06:31,824 --> 00:06:34,584 Speaker 1: wanted to testify against Brad, but the court wouldn't let them, 135 00:06:34,624 --> 00:06:36,744 Speaker 1: but they wanted to stand up and speak against him, 136 00:06:36,984 --> 00:06:38,304 Speaker 1: which is a pretty big deal. 137 00:06:38,384 --> 00:06:41,264 Speaker 2: Huge deal. So it's kind of like we're all seeing 138 00:06:41,264 --> 00:06:44,064 Speaker 2: their kids dropping the pit. But Chilah was the first 139 00:06:44,064 --> 00:06:46,024 Speaker 2: one that we've seen, like legally child to. 140 00:06:46,024 --> 00:06:48,984 Speaker 1: Drop each deal and it is getting your name legally 141 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:52,464 Speaker 1: changed just to have no connection to your father and 142 00:06:52,504 --> 00:06:55,064 Speaker 1: his family and his legacy. But the other big moment 143 00:06:55,224 --> 00:06:59,624 Speaker 1: was when Pax in twenty twenty three posted this big 144 00:07:00,224 --> 00:07:03,864 Speaker 1: statement against Brad Pitt against his father, and it was 145 00:07:03,904 --> 00:07:06,424 Speaker 1: taken down from his Instagram account, but obviously not before 146 00:07:06,464 --> 00:07:09,704 Speaker 1: so many news outlets got screenshots of it and plastered everywhere. 147 00:07:10,064 --> 00:07:13,784 Speaker 1: And so it was a photo with Brad Pitt and 148 00:07:13,904 --> 00:07:16,264 Speaker 1: the text over it said, Happy Father's Day to this 149 00:07:16,344 --> 00:07:20,384 Speaker 1: world class asshole. You time and time again prove yourself 150 00:07:20,384 --> 00:07:23,584 Speaker 1: to be a terrible father and a despicable person. You 151 00:07:23,624 --> 00:07:27,024 Speaker 1: have no consideration or empathy towards your youngest children, who 152 00:07:27,184 --> 00:07:30,864 Speaker 1: tremble in fear in your presence. And it was when 153 00:07:30,904 --> 00:07:33,744 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt was accepting his Oscar for Best Supporting Actor 154 00:07:33,824 --> 00:07:36,824 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty. That's the photo. And then he said, 155 00:07:36,904 --> 00:07:38,824 Speaker 1: you have made the lives of those closest to me 156 00:07:38,904 --> 00:07:41,304 Speaker 1: at constant hell. You tell the self and the world 157 00:07:41,384 --> 00:07:44,784 Speaker 1: whatever you want, but the truth will come to light someday. 158 00:07:44,904 --> 00:07:48,864 Speaker 1: So Happy Father's Day, you fucking awful human being. I mean, 159 00:07:49,184 --> 00:07:52,344 Speaker 1: this is so powerful. He was a teenager like at 160 00:07:52,384 --> 00:07:55,144 Speaker 1: that time, but still that's a pretty intense thing to say. 161 00:07:55,144 --> 00:07:56,464 Speaker 1: Like some people are trying to write this off as 162 00:07:56,504 --> 00:07:58,664 Speaker 1: like everyone gets angry at their parents, and I was like, 163 00:07:58,664 --> 00:08:00,584 Speaker 1: this doesn't feel like a teenager just getting angry at 164 00:08:00,584 --> 00:08:02,664 Speaker 1: their parents because they weren't allowed to do something. It 165 00:08:02,744 --> 00:08:06,464 Speaker 1: feels like a traumatized teenager speaking out against a man 166 00:08:06,544 --> 00:08:10,064 Speaker 1: that he's so viciously angry because something terrible has happened. 167 00:08:10,384 --> 00:08:13,584 Speaker 2: And just the contrast of that caption versus the photo 168 00:08:13,704 --> 00:08:17,624 Speaker 2: he used, Yeah, Brad accepting the Oscar, Like, it's so 169 00:08:17,864 --> 00:08:21,344 Speaker 2: crazy that I can see their kids watching him accept 170 00:08:21,344 --> 00:08:25,024 Speaker 2: this award and seeing the world love someone who has 171 00:08:25,064 --> 00:08:27,504 Speaker 2: been so scary for like the majority of their lives 172 00:08:27,544 --> 00:08:30,544 Speaker 2: towards them. I feel really bad because I actually didn't 173 00:08:30,584 --> 00:08:33,344 Speaker 2: know this post happened. Oh right, with all of the 174 00:08:33,384 --> 00:08:36,824 Speaker 2: commentary around like their divorce and Brad Pitt, I think 175 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:39,704 Speaker 2: I was still on that side of like, oh, surely 176 00:08:39,784 --> 00:08:42,104 Speaker 2: what he did hasn't been that bad, and he kind 177 00:08:42,104 --> 00:08:45,024 Speaker 2: of just glance over it when the I guess, the 178 00:08:45,064 --> 00:08:49,304 Speaker 2: divorce proceedings and all the court jargon around it didn't 179 00:08:49,344 --> 00:08:50,864 Speaker 2: make it as big as it really is. 180 00:08:51,264 --> 00:08:54,104 Speaker 1: That's because Brad Pitt's kids keep telling us who he is, 181 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:56,344 Speaker 1: but Hollywood keeps covering it up, which is what we're 182 00:08:56,344 --> 00:09:00,544 Speaker 1: going to get into next. So the most interesting thing 183 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:03,984 Speaker 1: here is that for so many years, Brad Pitt's kids 184 00:09:03,984 --> 00:09:06,624 Speaker 1: have been trying to tell us what a terrible person 185 00:09:06,704 --> 00:09:09,424 Speaker 1: he is, but at the same time, Hollywood just keeps 186 00:09:09,464 --> 00:09:11,784 Speaker 1: covering it up, which is why he's maintained this stance 187 00:09:11,824 --> 00:09:13,104 Speaker 1: as the ultimate golden boy. 188 00:09:13,464 --> 00:09:16,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hate to say this, but I feel 189 00:09:16,424 --> 00:09:17,504 Speaker 2: like I'm part of the problem. 190 00:09:17,664 --> 00:09:18,224 Speaker 1: No, that's okay. 191 00:09:18,344 --> 00:09:21,984 Speaker 2: As a consumer of movies and a lover of movies 192 00:09:21,984 --> 00:09:24,944 Speaker 2: and TV. I literally recently, I think it would have 193 00:09:24,944 --> 00:09:28,104 Speaker 2: been this month or last month, I saw a trailer 194 00:09:28,304 --> 00:09:30,584 Speaker 2: of a new movie coming out with Brad Pitt and 195 00:09:30,624 --> 00:09:35,344 Speaker 2: George Clooney. Yes, And immediately, even knowing all of the 196 00:09:35,344 --> 00:09:37,744 Speaker 2: stuff that brad Pitt's done, reading all of the articles 197 00:09:37,784 --> 00:09:40,904 Speaker 2: prepping for this episode, I was like, I can't wait 198 00:09:40,944 --> 00:09:41,384 Speaker 2: to watch that. 199 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:44,384 Speaker 1: Well, exactly because everyone knows that they're best friends in 200 00:09:44,424 --> 00:09:46,664 Speaker 1: real life and they're so funny and oppressed to it together, 201 00:09:46,704 --> 00:09:46,984 Speaker 1: and I. 202 00:09:46,944 --> 00:09:48,984 Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, Ocean Z eleven Reunion, get. 203 00:09:48,864 --> 00:09:50,984 Speaker 1: Me in there, and they play zany pranks on each 204 00:09:51,064 --> 00:09:53,544 Speaker 1: other and that sort of thing. So like that whole 205 00:09:53,584 --> 00:09:56,184 Speaker 1: kind of web of Hollywood really pulls you in and 206 00:09:56,224 --> 00:09:58,624 Speaker 1: it's so interesting. As Brad Pitt, He's had actually more 207 00:09:58,704 --> 00:10:01,224 Speaker 1: worse things said about him publicly than a lot of 208 00:10:01,264 --> 00:10:03,504 Speaker 1: other A list stars over the years. If you look 209 00:10:03,504 --> 00:10:06,744 Speaker 1: at what's come out from him and Angelina Jolly fighting 210 00:10:06,784 --> 00:10:09,264 Speaker 1: over the vineyard that they owned together and apparently he 211 00:10:09,344 --> 00:10:11,704 Speaker 1: was playing really dirt and trying to get her like, 212 00:10:11,744 --> 00:10:13,784 Speaker 1: you know, screw her out of money, and then his 213 00:10:13,944 --> 00:10:17,584 Speaker 1: kids coming forward with all these abusive allegations and the investigations, 214 00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:19,784 Speaker 1: But none of that has touched him because the things 215 00:10:19,784 --> 00:10:22,584 Speaker 1: that have made the news is him having those like 216 00:10:22,704 --> 00:10:25,144 Speaker 1: reunited moments with Jennifer Aniston. Remember when they're at the 217 00:10:25,144 --> 00:10:28,664 Speaker 1: Screen Actors Guild and they walked past each other and 218 00:10:28,744 --> 00:10:30,664 Speaker 1: he kind of like grabbed her hand for a second. 219 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 1: Whole world, including us to be there, lost its mind 220 00:10:34,424 --> 00:10:37,584 Speaker 1: over that, and that dominated news coverage. At the same time, 221 00:10:37,744 --> 00:10:40,744 Speaker 1: these allegations were coming out and caught like documents and things, 222 00:10:40,904 --> 00:10:42,704 Speaker 1: but we didn't want to see it because that reunion 223 00:10:42,744 --> 00:10:45,384 Speaker 1: of them was so sexy and sweet on the red carpet. 224 00:10:45,504 --> 00:10:48,184 Speaker 1: And then when he won his Oscar, his whole campaign 225 00:10:48,224 --> 00:10:51,064 Speaker 1: around that was this humble, golden boy who was just 226 00:10:51,064 --> 00:10:53,184 Speaker 1: just happy to be in the room. Remember the biggest 227 00:10:53,184 --> 00:10:55,144 Speaker 1: story leading up to the Oscars when they had like 228 00:10:55,184 --> 00:10:57,784 Speaker 1: the pre luncheon, and he walked in and wrote and 229 00:10:57,784 --> 00:10:59,744 Speaker 1: like they were name tags if you wanted to wear one, 230 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:01,264 Speaker 1: and he wrote Brad Pitt and put it on and 231 00:11:01,264 --> 00:11:04,304 Speaker 1: walked around. Everyone's like he's so humble, he's assuming, no 232 00:11:04,344 --> 00:11:07,224 Speaker 1: one knows who he is. And then with his acceptance speech, 233 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:09,424 Speaker 1: it was again this kind of like Hollywood Golden Boy 234 00:11:09,504 --> 00:11:12,384 Speaker 1: makes good, and it's been drowning out any other noise. 235 00:11:12,824 --> 00:11:15,584 Speaker 1: Whereas every time these allegations come out from the kids, 236 00:11:16,064 --> 00:11:19,664 Speaker 1: the sentiment from not just like media, but also from 237 00:11:19,784 --> 00:11:22,224 Speaker 1: people who love him, like the comment sections and tiktoks 238 00:11:22,224 --> 00:11:23,744 Speaker 1: and all those kind of ways where we can see 239 00:11:23,744 --> 00:11:26,864 Speaker 1: what people are saying, are very much geared towards Angelina. 240 00:11:26,944 --> 00:11:30,384 Speaker 1: I like she's turned the kids against him. She's evil. 241 00:11:30,584 --> 00:11:33,224 Speaker 1: Look at her. She always talks about having no female friends. 242 00:11:33,304 --> 00:11:36,304 Speaker 1: It's true, she doesn't have those big public Hollywood friendships. 243 00:11:36,744 --> 00:11:40,104 Speaker 1: You often just see her only with her kids, Whereas 244 00:11:40,144 --> 00:11:41,904 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, you always see all of his co stars 245 00:11:41,984 --> 00:11:45,064 Speaker 1: hugging him on red carpets and fawning over him at 246 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:48,104 Speaker 1: award shows, and he's everyone's best friend and you can't 247 00:11:48,104 --> 00:11:48,744 Speaker 1: compete with that. 248 00:11:48,984 --> 00:11:50,944 Speaker 2: And I feel like we kind of see all of 249 00:11:50,984 --> 00:11:52,784 Speaker 2: this and use it as an excuse on why we 250 00:11:52,824 --> 00:11:55,944 Speaker 2: should be enjoying this type of contest. I think society, 251 00:11:56,264 --> 00:12:01,344 Speaker 2: like we are so easily ready to not separate the 252 00:12:01,464 --> 00:12:04,184 Speaker 2: art from the artists when it comes to musicians, but 253 00:12:04,464 --> 00:12:06,624 Speaker 2: we struggle when it comes to TV and movies because 254 00:12:06,624 --> 00:12:08,984 Speaker 2: there's so many other players. It's not just one person 255 00:12:09,184 --> 00:12:11,824 Speaker 2: likely it's George Clooney to Jennifer Aiston. It's like all 256 00:12:11,864 --> 00:12:14,784 Speaker 2: these people who worked on this film, all these TV sets, 257 00:12:15,064 --> 00:12:17,304 Speaker 2: And I think that's where it becomes really cloudy for 258 00:12:17,344 --> 00:12:20,704 Speaker 2: society to be like, oh, I shouldn't probably indulge in 259 00:12:20,704 --> 00:12:22,784 Speaker 2: this piece of content because he's actually a terrible. 260 00:12:22,464 --> 00:12:25,704 Speaker 1: Person, exactly. And I was wondering as time passed if 261 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:29,904 Speaker 1: Hollywood would sort of maybe close ranks less around Brad Pete. 262 00:12:29,904 --> 00:12:32,064 Speaker 1: I mean probably not just the opening doors for him 263 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:34,264 Speaker 1: well exactly, but there was a time there where he 264 00:12:34,424 --> 00:12:37,384 Speaker 1: was the front runner for all of these huge studio 265 00:12:37,504 --> 00:12:40,384 Speaker 1: movies like Babylon Once upon a time in Hollywood, all 266 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:43,424 Speaker 1: these different movies that so many people's money is tied 267 00:12:43,504 --> 00:12:46,264 Speaker 1: up in and so many people's career success, especially with 268 00:12:46,304 --> 00:12:47,984 Speaker 1: something like Babylon, where you're going to roll out this 269 00:12:48,184 --> 00:12:51,864 Speaker 1: huge international press touring junket and make him the face 270 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:53,944 Speaker 1: of that. That movie ended up doing very badly, But 271 00:12:53,984 --> 00:12:58,104 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be, you know, this big masterpiece. Yeah, exactly. 272 00:12:58,144 --> 00:12:59,984 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be this big Oscobate movie. It 273 00:13:00,024 --> 00:13:02,424 Speaker 1: was supposed to make so much money. And you can't 274 00:13:02,464 --> 00:13:06,464 Speaker 1: have the leading man wrapped up in an abuse trial 275 00:13:06,504 --> 00:13:09,664 Speaker 1: and allegations. And so it wasn't just the other people 276 00:13:09,704 --> 00:13:12,824 Speaker 1: in the movie, the studios, it's the executive, it's the producers, 277 00:13:13,184 --> 00:13:15,024 Speaker 1: it's the people who are working on the press tour, 278 00:13:15,144 --> 00:13:16,904 Speaker 1: like all their money is wrapped up and Brad hit 279 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:18,824 Speaker 1: so they have to make sure that he maintains this 280 00:13:18,904 --> 00:13:22,984 Speaker 1: golden image, which is why all of this content just 281 00:13:23,144 --> 00:13:27,224 Speaker 1: doesn't really surface. Even now with Shiloh Jolly changing her name, 282 00:13:27,904 --> 00:13:29,624 Speaker 1: that has kind of bubbled up, but it'll go away 283 00:13:29,664 --> 00:13:31,584 Speaker 1: really quickly. And like you're saying, at the same time, 284 00:13:31,664 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 1: his new trailer with a movie with George Clooney was released, 285 00:13:35,144 --> 00:13:36,824 Speaker 1: and that's what people are going to talk about because 286 00:13:36,824 --> 00:13:37,784 Speaker 1: that's the fun story. 287 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 2: And do we think that he knows that's what's going 288 00:13:40,224 --> 00:13:41,904 Speaker 2: to happen, which is why he's so confident. 289 00:13:42,424 --> 00:13:44,104 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure, behind the scenes things are a 290 00:13:44,104 --> 00:13:46,304 Speaker 1: lot worse than what we can see. And I'm sure 291 00:13:46,384 --> 00:13:50,104 Speaker 1: like it wasn't exactly timed for this information from the 292 00:13:50,144 --> 00:13:52,624 Speaker 1: court about her getting a lawyer to change her name 293 00:13:52,824 --> 00:13:54,864 Speaker 1: to come at the same time as the movie trailer. 294 00:13:55,224 --> 00:13:58,624 Speaker 1: It's more so there's always this understanding that Angelina Jolly 295 00:13:58,744 --> 00:14:01,624 Speaker 1: has been a punching bag for so long, because she 296 00:14:01,704 --> 00:14:04,184 Speaker 1: does give a few interviews here and there, but she'll 297 00:14:04,264 --> 00:14:07,744 Speaker 1: never go into the specifics of it because of the kids. 298 00:14:07,824 --> 00:14:09,824 Speaker 1: And I think even if she did do a massive, 299 00:14:09,824 --> 00:14:13,744 Speaker 1: big tell, people wouldn't really listen. Like the last big 300 00:14:13,744 --> 00:14:17,784 Speaker 1: interview she did, she talked about feeling really trapped around 301 00:14:17,864 --> 00:14:21,304 Speaker 1: her marriage from Brad Pitt afterwards and feeling that abuse, 302 00:14:21,464 --> 00:14:24,184 Speaker 1: and it kind of was maybe like a very mild 303 00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:26,144 Speaker 1: part of the press cycle for that day, but then 304 00:14:26,304 --> 00:14:27,824 Speaker 1: it's like everything else, it just went away. 305 00:14:28,064 --> 00:14:30,424 Speaker 2: Do you remember when there were rumor circulating that she 306 00:14:30,584 --> 00:14:35,344 Speaker 2: was dating the weekend? Yeah, and everyone hated her for it. Yeah, exactly, 307 00:14:35,464 --> 00:14:38,344 Speaker 2: your mom, you shouldn't be dating and he's so much 308 00:14:38,384 --> 00:14:40,984 Speaker 2: younger than you, what are you doing? And I'm like, 309 00:14:41,064 --> 00:14:43,584 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's actually insane. But then at the 310 00:14:43,624 --> 00:14:45,224 Speaker 2: same time, I'm like, can't wait for Brad Pitts a 311 00:14:45,264 --> 00:14:45,904 Speaker 2: new movie. 312 00:14:46,064 --> 00:14:47,584 Speaker 1: I know, well, I think this is a thing. It's 313 00:14:47,664 --> 00:14:49,664 Speaker 1: very hard, Like we can kind of see the mechanics, 314 00:14:49,664 --> 00:14:51,384 Speaker 1: but I guess it's very hard when you're being hit 315 00:14:51,464 --> 00:14:54,704 Speaker 1: with this press cycle around him to really latch onto that. 316 00:14:55,064 --> 00:14:57,144 Speaker 1: So as the kids get older, I'm sure we're going 317 00:14:57,184 --> 00:14:59,264 Speaker 1: to see more of this either, you know, once to 318 00:14:59,304 --> 00:15:02,464 Speaker 1: become adults speaking out against him more. Maybe once the 319 00:15:02,544 --> 00:15:04,664 Speaker 1: legal battle for that. I think it's like the winery 320 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:07,184 Speaker 1: is the last thing they're fighting over is settled. Maybe 321 00:15:07,184 --> 00:15:09,024 Speaker 1: something will come out of that. But I do believe 322 00:15:09,024 --> 00:15:11,584 Speaker 1: that no matter what these kids say about their dad, 323 00:15:11,784 --> 00:15:14,344 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is like the most untouchable man in Hollywood. 324 00:15:14,704 --> 00:15:17,024 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 325 00:15:17,104 --> 00:15:19,944 Speaker 2: If you love listening to the Spill, we actually want 326 00:15:20,024 --> 00:15:22,304 Speaker 2: to hear from you. You hear us now, we want 327 00:15:22,304 --> 00:15:24,424 Speaker 2: to hear you. 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