1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:13,334 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. 2 00:00:14,134 --> 00:00:17,214 Speaker 2: Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,254 --> 00:00:19,134 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:23,094 --> 00:00:23,294 Speaker 1: Hi. 5 00:00:23,494 --> 00:00:26,774 Speaker 2: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily news podcast, 6 00:00:26,854 --> 00:00:30,974 Speaker 2: The Quickie. President elect Donald Trump has spent the past 7 00:00:31,094 --> 00:00:33,654 Speaker 2: week in a bit nominating all the people he wishes 8 00:00:33,694 --> 00:00:35,614 Speaker 2: to be a part of his new cabinet when he 9 00:00:35,734 --> 00:00:38,374 Speaker 2: arrives back in the White House in January. That is, 10 00:00:38,374 --> 00:00:44,814 Speaker 2: what is not attending UFC fights is the President. 11 00:00:45,614 --> 00:00:46,454 Speaker 3: Oh my God. 12 00:00:47,814 --> 00:00:51,814 Speaker 2: Today we'll explore why some of Trump's recent appointments are controversial, 13 00:00:52,054 --> 00:00:54,614 Speaker 2: potentially a conflict of interest, and while some of the 14 00:00:54,654 --> 00:00:57,334 Speaker 2: men He's picked to oversee some of the most important 15 00:00:57,334 --> 00:01:00,454 Speaker 2: departments in the US government may have been purely to 16 00:01:00,534 --> 00:01:03,214 Speaker 2: save them from getting into a whole lot of legal trouble. 17 00:01:03,574 --> 00:01:06,054 Speaker 2: But first, here's the letters from the Cookie newsroom Tuesday, 18 00:01:06,094 --> 00:01:10,374 Speaker 2: November nineteen, posting what looks like snapshots from a photo booth. 19 00:01:10,534 --> 00:01:12,974 Speaker 2: Black and white Pigs have announced that Sam Kerr and 20 00:01:13,094 --> 00:01:16,614 Speaker 2: wife Christy Mures are about to become mums. The soccer 21 00:01:16,654 --> 00:01:19,974 Speaker 2: superstar posted mus Kerr Baby coming in twenty twenty five 22 00:01:20,294 --> 00:01:22,614 Speaker 2: as the pair hold up an ultrasound photo in one 23 00:01:22,654 --> 00:01:25,694 Speaker 2: shot and Mew's swelling belly in another. The good news 24 00:01:25,694 --> 00:01:28,014 Speaker 2: couldn't be better time for Kerr, who spent the best 25 00:01:28,014 --> 00:01:30,694 Speaker 2: part of this year off the football pitch, suffering a 26 00:01:30,774 --> 00:01:33,254 Speaker 2: knee injury she copped while training for her club team 27 00:01:33,374 --> 00:01:36,254 Speaker 2: Chelsea back in January. Friends and fans of the pair 28 00:01:36,334 --> 00:01:40,094 Speaker 2: have congratulated the couple, one Ossie supporter claiming the baby 29 00:01:40,134 --> 00:01:42,934 Speaker 2: for our side when they're old enough to represent their country. 30 00:01:43,534 --> 00:01:46,214 Speaker 2: Two young Australian women are fighting for their lives in 31 00:01:46,254 --> 00:01:48,734 Speaker 2: a hospital in Laos after it was believed they drank 32 00:01:48,814 --> 00:01:52,014 Speaker 2: tainted cocktails. The two nineteen year olds from Melbourne were 33 00:01:52,054 --> 00:01:54,894 Speaker 2: staying at a backpacker's hostel in Van Vyeng when they 34 00:01:54,934 --> 00:01:57,694 Speaker 2: headed out to a nearby bar Tuesday night last week. 35 00:01:57,934 --> 00:02:00,534 Speaker 2: They returned in the early hours of Wednesday morning, after 36 00:02:00,574 --> 00:02:03,054 Speaker 2: which they started to feel dizzy, tight in the chest 37 00:02:03,094 --> 00:02:06,134 Speaker 2: and had trouble breathing. One woman later had a seizure 38 00:02:06,174 --> 00:02:08,934 Speaker 2: and went into a coma. Both have now been transferred 39 00:02:08,934 --> 00:02:12,134 Speaker 2: to larger hole hospitals in Thailand. Travelers to vang Vyang 40 00:02:12,174 --> 00:02:15,214 Speaker 2: have warned about possible methanol poisoning in the region. It's 41 00:02:15,254 --> 00:02:18,894 Speaker 2: believed two people have recently died after consuming tainted drinks, 42 00:02:19,134 --> 00:02:22,894 Speaker 2: with many others ending up in hospital. Broadcaster Alan Jones 43 00:02:22,894 --> 00:02:25,774 Speaker 2: has been released on bail following charges laid against him 44 00:02:25,814 --> 00:02:29,214 Speaker 2: for a decent assault. Jones, who names prime ministers amongst 45 00:02:29,254 --> 00:02:32,254 Speaker 2: his high profile and powerful friends, didn't speak to the 46 00:02:32,294 --> 00:02:34,694 Speaker 2: media as he left the Sydney police station where he 47 00:02:34,774 --> 00:02:37,974 Speaker 2: was handed the details of twenty four charges relating to 48 00:02:38,094 --> 00:02:41,214 Speaker 2: eight victims for alleged crimes that occurred between two thousand 49 00:02:41,214 --> 00:02:44,534 Speaker 2: and one and twenty nineteen. The youngest accuser is said 50 00:02:44,534 --> 00:02:47,214 Speaker 2: to be seventeen years old. The eighty three year old 51 00:02:47,254 --> 00:02:49,894 Speaker 2: was then whisked away to his apartment at Circular Key. 52 00:02:50,334 --> 00:02:53,174 Speaker 2: Investigators say their work is ongoing and that they're still 53 00:02:53,214 --> 00:02:56,614 Speaker 2: talking to people, suggesting there may be more charges to come. 54 00:02:56,934 --> 00:03:00,294 Speaker 2: Jones's lawyer says his client will be defending the allegations. 55 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:03,894 Speaker 2: Jen Z and millennials are more worried about being able 56 00:03:03,934 --> 00:03:07,054 Speaker 2: to afford Christmas presents this year than their older cohorts. 57 00:03:07,374 --> 00:03:10,494 Speaker 2: A survey from charity Good three sixty in Australia has 58 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:13,214 Speaker 2: found fifty eight percent of ossies aged twenty five to 59 00:03:13,294 --> 00:03:16,094 Speaker 2: thirty five are concerned about finding the money to buy 60 00:03:16,134 --> 00:03:19,454 Speaker 2: gifts this festive season, despite the price of essentials like 61 00:03:19,534 --> 00:03:23,094 Speaker 2: petrol and power bills coming down. Housing costs play a 62 00:03:23,134 --> 00:03:26,294 Speaker 2: major role in the generational divide, with younger people more 63 00:03:26,414 --> 00:03:29,214 Speaker 2: likely to be paying rents that have increased considerably in 64 00:03:29,214 --> 00:03:32,054 Speaker 2: the past twelve months to two years, or paying off 65 00:03:32,094 --> 00:03:35,374 Speaker 2: higher mortgages than older rossies with interest rates that have 66 00:03:35,414 --> 00:03:39,414 Speaker 2: also skyrocketed in recent times. A Combank report found those 67 00:03:39,494 --> 00:03:42,534 Speaker 2: aged eighteen to twenty nine have reduced their spending by 68 00:03:42,574 --> 00:03:45,574 Speaker 2: two percent in the past year. Those age thirty to 69 00:03:45,654 --> 00:03:48,694 Speaker 2: thirty nine still decreasing spending, but by a smaller margin 70 00:03:48,734 --> 00:03:51,814 Speaker 2: at one point one percent, while those aged sixty to 71 00:03:51,854 --> 00:03:56,014 Speaker 2: sixty nine increased spending by three point nine percent. That's 72 00:03:56,014 --> 00:03:58,734 Speaker 2: the latest news headlines. Next. Donald Trump has gone on 73 00:03:58,774 --> 00:04:01,574 Speaker 2: a nominating spree, and some of his choices for those 74 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:04,334 Speaker 2: in charge of running government come twenty twenty five have 75 00:04:04,494 --> 00:04:16,494 Speaker 2: raised a lot of eyebrows, including in his own party room. 76 00:04:16,534 --> 00:04:19,454 Speaker 2: There are many Americans who are choosing to make comedy 77 00:04:19,574 --> 00:04:22,294 Speaker 2: out of the choices President elect Donald Trump is making 78 00:04:22,534 --> 00:04:24,774 Speaker 2: for those who be in his cabinet once he returns 79 00:04:24,814 --> 00:04:25,854 Speaker 2: to the Oval office. 80 00:04:26,054 --> 00:04:29,494 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to CNN breaking news. Trump has named the 81 00:04:29,534 --> 00:04:33,774 Speaker 3: smoke monster from Ferngully as the head of the Environmental 82 00:04:33,774 --> 00:04:37,694 Speaker 3: Protection Agency. Russell Brand will be taking over the Department 83 00:04:37,734 --> 00:04:41,174 Speaker 3: of Health and Human Services after him and President Trump 84 00:04:41,494 --> 00:04:45,934 Speaker 3: had a long conversation about Chakras. The Department of Labor 85 00:04:46,054 --> 00:04:49,334 Speaker 3: is actually going to be a hologram of Jeff Bezos. 86 00:04:49,774 --> 00:04:53,294 Speaker 2: Some have even compared these selections as Aunt coming to life, 87 00:04:53,574 --> 00:04:56,094 Speaker 2: the aunt being the two thousand and six Luke Wilson 88 00:04:56,134 --> 00:04:57,414 Speaker 2: movie Idiocracy. 89 00:04:57,734 --> 00:05:00,934 Speaker 4: I'm the Secretary Energy, I want a contest, got to 90 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:01,854 Speaker 4: be a cabinet member. 91 00:05:02,094 --> 00:05:03,334 Speaker 3: I'm a Secretary of State. 92 00:05:04,094 --> 00:05:05,374 Speaker 5: Brought to boy CARLS Junior. 93 00:05:05,734 --> 00:05:06,814 Speaker 3: Why do you keep saying that? 94 00:05:06,854 --> 00:05:08,334 Speaker 5: Because they pay me every time I do. 95 00:05:09,014 --> 00:05:12,974 Speaker 2: In of dramatic appointments, President elect Donald Trump has unveiled 96 00:05:13,014 --> 00:05:18,174 Speaker 2: his new cabinet, this time prioritizing loyalty over experience and expertise. 97 00:05:19,334 --> 00:05:22,974 Speaker 2: Veteran Republican Operatives Susie Wiles is Trump's chief of staff. 98 00:05:23,334 --> 00:05:26,654 Speaker 2: She brings to the role decades of political experience, dating 99 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:30,534 Speaker 2: back to Ronald Reagan's nineteen eighty campaign. Remember during one 100 00:05:30,534 --> 00:05:34,534 Speaker 2: Australian election, they talked about the faceless men behind the politics. Well, 101 00:05:34,614 --> 00:05:38,494 Speaker 2: Susie Wiles is that faceless man. She is the mastermind 102 00:05:38,494 --> 00:05:41,374 Speaker 2: behind Trump's twenty twenty four victory and was called up 103 00:05:41,414 --> 00:05:44,294 Speaker 2: on stage during the night of celebration. Let me also 104 00:05:44,374 --> 00:05:49,574 Speaker 2: expressed by tremendous appreciation for Susie and Chris. 105 00:05:49,654 --> 00:05:52,174 Speaker 6: The job you did, Susan. 106 00:05:52,454 --> 00:05:57,374 Speaker 7: Come sers, come here, Come here, Susan, Chris, come here 107 00:05:57,374 --> 00:05:57,694 Speaker 7: at Chris. 108 00:05:58,574 --> 00:06:00,294 Speaker 3: Susie likes to stay sort. 109 00:06:00,134 --> 00:06:00,734 Speaker 1: Of in the back. 110 00:06:00,934 --> 00:06:02,814 Speaker 8: Let me tell you the Ace Stave. 111 00:06:03,014 --> 00:06:06,454 Speaker 2: We call her the Ace len Law. Wiles is the 112 00:06:06,494 --> 00:06:09,494 Speaker 2: woman who's managed to push Republican voters past the twenty 113 00:06:09,774 --> 00:06:13,294 Speaker 2: twenty loss, the twenty twenty one Capitol Building insurrection, the 114 00:06:13,334 --> 00:06:17,454 Speaker 2: party's midterm defeat in twenty twenty two, Trump's criminal indictments, 115 00:06:17,534 --> 00:06:20,974 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four trials. Some have called her the 116 00:06:21,094 --> 00:06:26,574 Speaker 2: most consequential person in American politics right now. Amelia Lester 117 00:06:26,774 --> 00:06:29,494 Speaker 2: is the deputy editor of Foreign Policy Magazine and Mumma 118 00:06:29,574 --> 00:06:33,454 Speaker 2: mes Us correspondent. Amelia Susie Wilds seems like a character 119 00:06:33,654 --> 00:06:36,294 Speaker 2: out of the TV show Scandal. Who actually is she? 120 00:06:37,094 --> 00:06:40,614 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's obsessed with her now. There's one profile of 121 00:06:40,654 --> 00:06:43,614 Speaker 1: her from Politico earlier this year, because she has so 122 00:06:43,814 --> 00:06:46,974 Speaker 1: successfully flown under the radar that there's just this one 123 00:06:47,054 --> 00:06:50,174 Speaker 1: article to draw on. She's been in politics a long time. 124 00:06:50,614 --> 00:06:53,134 Speaker 1: Like many people in the Trump camp, she comes from 125 00:06:53,134 --> 00:06:57,774 Speaker 1: Florida Republican circles. She was actually Ronald Reagan's scheduler back 126 00:06:57,814 --> 00:06:59,694 Speaker 1: in the day when he was in the White House. 127 00:06:59,734 --> 00:07:02,854 Speaker 1: So we're talking old school Republican here. Remember how in 128 00:07:02,894 --> 00:07:06,494 Speaker 1: the first Trump administration there were a lot of people saying, Oh, 129 00:07:06,654 --> 00:07:08,774 Speaker 1: there's going to be people around Trump to keep them 130 00:07:08,774 --> 00:07:10,854 Speaker 1: on the street and now, and then one by one 131 00:07:10,934 --> 00:07:13,974 Speaker 1: those people left the White House. Susie Wilds is the 132 00:07:14,054 --> 00:07:18,374 Speaker 1: hope for this administration. Apparently Trump never does stupid things 133 00:07:18,454 --> 00:07:20,494 Speaker 1: if she's in the room. Once she leaves the room 134 00:07:20,614 --> 00:07:22,534 Speaker 1: or bets her off. But if she's in the room, 135 00:07:22,614 --> 00:07:24,974 Speaker 1: she can keep him on the straight and narrow. She 136 00:07:25,094 --> 00:07:27,534 Speaker 1: really avoids the spotlight, which must be part of why 137 00:07:27,734 --> 00:07:30,694 Speaker 1: she has been able to stick around for the whole campaign, 138 00:07:30,814 --> 00:07:33,974 Speaker 1: which is very unusual in Trump's circles. She tweeted only 139 00:07:34,054 --> 00:07:37,614 Speaker 1: three times this election cycle, and she is credited with 140 00:07:37,734 --> 00:07:41,134 Speaker 1: running a more professional operation, even if Trump occasionally crashed 141 00:07:41,134 --> 00:07:43,654 Speaker 1: into the guardrails of it. It's notable that in his 142 00:07:43,734 --> 00:07:46,814 Speaker 1: first administration, Trump went through four chiefs of staff, but 143 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:50,054 Speaker 1: people are guessing that Susie might stick around for longer. 144 00:07:51,254 --> 00:07:55,734 Speaker 2: Perhaps Trump's most controversial appointment is Matt Gates as Attorney General. 145 00:07:56,054 --> 00:07:59,654 Speaker 2: The forty two year old Florida Congressman's nomination raises eyebrows 146 00:07:59,734 --> 00:08:03,974 Speaker 2: due to ongoing House Ethics Committee investigations and previous allegations 147 00:08:04,014 --> 00:08:07,214 Speaker 2: against him. Gates has been a loyal follower of Trump 148 00:08:07,294 --> 00:08:11,614 Speaker 2: through both his last presidency and this care MSNBC pointing 149 00:08:11,614 --> 00:08:13,654 Speaker 2: out that he asked for a pudon for his role 150 00:08:13,694 --> 00:08:15,614 Speaker 2: in the previous administration. 151 00:08:15,374 --> 00:08:18,054 Speaker 7: Since Gates was all in on Donald Trump's attempt to 152 00:08:18,134 --> 00:08:21,214 Speaker 7: overturn the twenty twenty election. In fact, he was so 153 00:08:21,454 --> 00:08:24,734 Speaker 7: concerned about his criminal exposure that he asked Donald Trump 154 00:08:24,734 --> 00:08:28,214 Speaker 7: for a pardon in the last days of Trump's first presidency. 155 00:08:28,654 --> 00:08:32,854 Speaker 7: Gates was also under investigation for sex trafficking as recently 156 00:08:32,854 --> 00:08:35,734 Speaker 7: as twenty twenty three. He will now lead the department 157 00:08:36,054 --> 00:08:38,694 Speaker 7: that once investigated him should he be confirmed. 158 00:08:39,094 --> 00:08:41,214 Speaker 2: There are some theories as to why Trump would appoint 159 00:08:41,294 --> 00:08:44,054 Speaker 2: Gates to this role, but one voice by Bastion Unfiltered 160 00:08:44,094 --> 00:08:47,094 Speaker 2: Online is that it allows Gates to avoid investigation. 161 00:08:47,534 --> 00:08:50,614 Speaker 9: Find out that in just two days, the House Ethics 162 00:08:50,614 --> 00:08:54,494 Speaker 9: Committee was going to vote on releasing a highly damaging 163 00:08:54,574 --> 00:08:59,854 Speaker 9: report about Matt Gates's sexual escapades and drug use. It 164 00:08:59,974 --> 00:09:03,014 Speaker 9: looks like Trump appointed him in order to get him 165 00:09:03,054 --> 00:09:04,454 Speaker 9: off of the charges. 166 00:09:04,934 --> 00:09:08,374 Speaker 2: Gates is not well liked amongst filler Republicans. 167 00:09:08,614 --> 00:09:10,694 Speaker 4: I'll give you the truth. I'm not speaker. It's because 168 00:09:10,734 --> 00:09:14,014 Speaker 4: one person, a member of Congress, wanted me to stop 169 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:16,534 Speaker 4: an ethics complaint because he slept with a seventeen year 170 00:09:16,574 --> 00:09:20,534 Speaker 4: old an ethics complaint that started before I ever became speaker, 171 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:22,334 Speaker 4: and that's illegal and I'm not going to get in 172 00:09:22,334 --> 00:09:22,574 Speaker 4: the mill. 173 00:09:22,774 --> 00:09:24,854 Speaker 6: This is a guy that didn't have that The media 174 00:09:24,854 --> 00:09:26,854 Speaker 6: didn't give a time of day to after he was 175 00:09:26,854 --> 00:09:29,894 Speaker 6: accused of sleeping with an underage girl. There's a reason 176 00:09:29,894 --> 00:09:33,014 Speaker 6: why I know one and the conference came and defended 177 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:35,414 Speaker 6: him because we had all seen the videos he was 178 00:09:35,454 --> 00:09:37,534 Speaker 6: showing on the House floor that all of us had 179 00:09:37,534 --> 00:09:39,734 Speaker 6: walked away of the girls that he had slept with. 180 00:09:39,814 --> 00:09:43,014 Speaker 6: He'd brag about how he would crush ed medicine and 181 00:09:43,934 --> 00:09:47,574 Speaker 6: chase it with with an energy drink so he could go. 182 00:09:47,494 --> 00:09:52,494 Speaker 2: All night Republican Senator Lisa Mkowski told reporters that Gates 183 00:09:52,654 --> 00:09:55,094 Speaker 2: is not a serious choice for attorney general. 184 00:09:55,134 --> 00:09:56,894 Speaker 5: If one was not on my carriage. 185 00:09:57,494 --> 00:10:00,854 Speaker 2: Gates has openly declared his intention to dismantle federal law 186 00:10:00,974 --> 00:10:04,494 Speaker 2: enforcement agencies, stating he's ready to target every one of 187 00:10:04,494 --> 00:10:08,414 Speaker 2: the three letter agencies, from FBI to ATF. He is 188 00:10:08,454 --> 00:10:11,814 Speaker 2: also anti abortion and has spoken in derogatory terms about 189 00:10:11,854 --> 00:10:15,094 Speaker 2: those who actively campaign against laws restricting a woman's right 190 00:10:15,134 --> 00:10:16,934 Speaker 2: to access pregnancy terminations. 191 00:10:17,254 --> 00:10:19,094 Speaker 7: Gave to say that, based off of your comments, you're 192 00:10:19,094 --> 00:10:22,814 Speaker 7: suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly 193 00:10:22,854 --> 00:10:25,414 Speaker 7: and overween Yes, what do you say. 194 00:10:25,254 --> 00:10:29,334 Speaker 1: To people who think that those comments are offensive? Be offended, Amelia. 195 00:10:29,414 --> 00:10:31,774 Speaker 2: There's a lot of discussion around Matt Gates's selection as 196 00:10:31,774 --> 00:10:33,574 Speaker 2: Attorney General. What's your take on it? 197 00:10:33,774 --> 00:10:36,854 Speaker 1: Yes, so he's going to be Trump's nominee for the 198 00:10:36,854 --> 00:10:40,294 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, which is arguably the most powerful agency 199 00:10:40,334 --> 00:10:43,734 Speaker 1: in the federal government. Fox called this appointment a five 200 00:10:43,814 --> 00:10:48,134 Speaker 1: alarm fire for American democracy, unpacking why people are so 201 00:10:48,294 --> 00:10:51,654 Speaker 1: mad about it. Basically, he's had a lot of allegations 202 00:10:51,654 --> 00:10:57,094 Speaker 1: swelling around him. The Justice Department itself investigated him over 203 00:10:57,214 --> 00:10:59,934 Speaker 1: claims of sex trafficking of a seventeen year old girl. 204 00:11:00,094 --> 00:11:03,014 Speaker 1: It ultimately decided not to bring charges. But there's also 205 00:11:03,094 --> 00:11:06,774 Speaker 1: this report floating around which has not been publicly released. 206 00:11:06,854 --> 00:11:09,854 Speaker 1: It's a House of Representatives' report, which is where Matt 207 00:11:09,894 --> 00:11:13,814 Speaker 1: Gates comes from about child sex allegations and drug use, 208 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,894 Speaker 1: and there's now a debate going on about whether or 209 00:11:16,974 --> 00:11:19,974 Speaker 1: not that House Ethics committee that produced that report is 210 00:11:20,014 --> 00:11:23,174 Speaker 1: going to release it publicly or not. He's going to 211 00:11:23,214 --> 00:11:29,614 Speaker 1: have unprecedented power to target people who have not been 212 00:11:29,654 --> 00:11:32,534 Speaker 1: loyal to Donald Trump, and some reporting in The Bulwark 213 00:11:32,614 --> 00:11:36,054 Speaker 1: and elsewhere has indicated that that was his hitch to Trump, 214 00:11:36,174 --> 00:11:38,614 Speaker 1: was that he was going to go after people who 215 00:11:38,774 --> 00:11:42,214 Speaker 1: had been Trump's antagonists in the campaign and before. So 216 00:11:42,614 --> 00:11:46,334 Speaker 1: it's got this really chilling effect on basically everyone, because 217 00:11:46,774 --> 00:11:49,134 Speaker 1: no one's going to be immune from this. If you're 218 00:11:49,174 --> 00:11:52,094 Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives and the Department of Justice 219 00:11:52,134 --> 00:11:53,814 Speaker 1: goes after you, that's not a good thing. 220 00:11:54,574 --> 00:11:57,334 Speaker 2: Another appointment that threw a few commentators off was Fox 221 00:11:57,374 --> 00:12:00,734 Speaker 2: News personality in National Guard veteran Pete Hexath as the 222 00:12:00,774 --> 00:12:05,454 Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense. The move reportedly shocked Pentagon leadership Hexath, 223 00:12:05,534 --> 00:12:08,894 Speaker 2: previously calling for the firing of top military brass including 224 00:12:08,894 --> 00:12:11,414 Speaker 2: the Chair of the Job chiefs of Staff, criticizing what 225 00:12:11,494 --> 00:12:14,774 Speaker 2: he terms their war agenda. He also has strong opinions 226 00:12:14,774 --> 00:12:16,294 Speaker 2: on the role of women in the military. 227 00:12:16,534 --> 00:12:17,014 Speaker 6: Freed Up. 228 00:12:17,094 --> 00:12:19,294 Speaker 10: Just saying we should not have women in combat roles 229 00:12:20,014 --> 00:12:22,534 Speaker 10: hasn't made us more effective, hasn't made us more lethal, 230 00:12:22,734 --> 00:12:25,334 Speaker 10: has made fighting more complicated. We've all served with women 231 00:12:25,374 --> 00:12:29,614 Speaker 10: and they're great. It just our institutions don't have to 232 00:12:29,654 --> 00:12:35,254 Speaker 10: incentivize that in places where traditionally not traditionally over human history, 233 00:12:35,774 --> 00:12:37,614 Speaker 10: men in those positions are more. 234 00:12:37,454 --> 00:12:40,854 Speaker 2: Capable, Amelia. With the relationship that Trump has with Fox 235 00:12:40,934 --> 00:12:43,614 Speaker 2: News and their support of him, does it actually come 236 00:12:43,654 --> 00:12:45,334 Speaker 2: as a surprise that he would nominate one of their 237 00:12:45,334 --> 00:12:46,814 Speaker 2: staff for his cabinet. 238 00:12:47,294 --> 00:12:50,174 Speaker 1: Well, it is a surprise, given that he has nominated 239 00:12:50,214 --> 00:12:52,854 Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth to be in charge of two point seven 240 00:12:52,934 --> 00:12:56,654 Speaker 1: million active beauty troops worldwide, which is what he has 241 00:12:56,694 --> 00:12:59,054 Speaker 1: nominated him to do. He wants to put him in 242 00:12:59,134 --> 00:13:01,734 Speaker 1: charge of the Pentagon and Defense. In addition to being 243 00:13:01,734 --> 00:13:04,374 Speaker 1: a Fox News host, heg Seth also served in Iraq 244 00:13:04,374 --> 00:13:06,494 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan, and the Army and he's still in the 245 00:13:06,574 --> 00:13:09,014 Speaker 1: National Guard, but it's safe to say he has a 246 00:13:09,014 --> 00:13:11,174 Speaker 1: lot of contra piversial views. Let me run through a 247 00:13:11,174 --> 00:13:13,414 Speaker 1: few of them. He is opposed to women in combat, 248 00:13:13,774 --> 00:13:16,574 Speaker 1: he wants soldiers who committed at war crimes to be pardoned, 249 00:13:16,974 --> 00:13:20,774 Speaker 1: and also brace yourself for this, he once said on Fox, 250 00:13:20,854 --> 00:13:23,934 Speaker 1: I don't really wash my hands ever, germs are not 251 00:13:23,974 --> 00:13:26,414 Speaker 1: a real thing. I can't see them, therefore they are 252 00:13:26,454 --> 00:13:30,694 Speaker 1: not real. And also just to mention finally, two other things. 253 00:13:30,734 --> 00:13:34,014 Speaker 1: He was investigated for sexual assaults in twenty seventeen, and 254 00:13:34,374 --> 00:13:37,014 Speaker 1: he also has a tattoo which is sometimes associated with 255 00:13:37,054 --> 00:13:38,254 Speaker 1: white supremacist groups. 256 00:13:38,894 --> 00:13:42,654 Speaker 2: A former Democratic representative who switched allegiances, the new Director 257 00:13:42,694 --> 00:13:46,774 Speaker 2: of Intelligence, Telsey Gabbard, has no direct intelligence experience, but 258 00:13:46,894 --> 00:13:49,254 Speaker 2: she does have a history in the military, serving in 259 00:13:49,294 --> 00:13:52,094 Speaker 2: the Hawaii National Guard for seventeen years and rising to 260 00:13:52,174 --> 00:13:55,534 Speaker 2: lieutenant colonel in the US Army Reserve. Now her nomination 261 00:13:55,614 --> 00:13:58,934 Speaker 2: is particularly controversial due to her opposition to US support 262 00:13:58,974 --> 00:14:03,174 Speaker 2: for Ukraine and her alleged sympathies toward Russian positions. She 263 00:14:03,294 --> 00:14:07,774 Speaker 2: has faced accusations of spreading Russian propaganda Russia, accusing the 264 00:14:07,854 --> 00:14:11,654 Speaker 2: US of bank rolling bioweabs's labs in Ukraine and Gabbard 265 00:14:11,734 --> 00:14:12,294 Speaker 2: saying this. 266 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:16,654 Speaker 5: Ukraine is in an active war zone with widespread bombing 267 00:14:16,734 --> 00:14:21,054 Speaker 5: or artillery and shelling, and these facilities, even in the 268 00:14:21,094 --> 00:14:25,614 Speaker 5: best of circumstances, could easily be compromised and release these 269 00:14:25,654 --> 00:14:26,734 Speaker 5: deadly pathogens. 270 00:14:27,494 --> 00:14:30,414 Speaker 2: Emilia, what does Telsea gabbard stance on Ukraine mean for 271 00:14:30,574 --> 00:14:32,254 Speaker 2: the future of US support in the region. 272 00:14:33,214 --> 00:14:36,294 Speaker 1: I don't think it means good things for Ukraine. So yeah, 273 00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:39,334 Speaker 1: she's been Chumps nominee for the Director of National Intelligence, 274 00:14:39,374 --> 00:14:42,654 Speaker 1: basically in charge of the country's secrets. She is known 275 00:14:42,694 --> 00:14:46,414 Speaker 1: for her sympathetic views towards Siria's Bashah al Asad as 276 00:14:46,414 --> 00:14:49,654 Speaker 1: well as Russias Vladimir Putin. There's a video that's disseminating 277 00:14:49,854 --> 00:14:52,134 Speaker 1: around the internet right now from the start of the 278 00:14:52,214 --> 00:14:54,574 Speaker 1: Ukraine War where she basically says that the war is 279 00:14:54,734 --> 00:14:58,374 Speaker 1: Ukraine's fault and that Ukraine should never have been given 280 00:14:58,374 --> 00:15:01,854 Speaker 1: the promise of joining NATO. Basically, Ukraine was not entitled 281 00:15:01,854 --> 00:15:04,774 Speaker 1: to join that defense alliance because it was too provocative 282 00:15:04,774 --> 00:15:08,174 Speaker 1: towards Russia. I wanted to mention specifically that she's probably 283 00:15:08,174 --> 00:15:11,334 Speaker 1: the most relevant appointment for Australia. There has been some 284 00:15:11,414 --> 00:15:15,774 Speaker 1: reporting that because she is in the pocket of these dictators, 285 00:15:16,214 --> 00:15:19,214 Speaker 1: allies might not want to share as many secrets with 286 00:15:19,254 --> 00:15:21,454 Speaker 1: the United States anymore because they won't know how they're 287 00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:23,934 Speaker 1: going to be used. And Australia is in an intelligence 288 00:15:23,934 --> 00:15:26,774 Speaker 1: sharing arrangement with the US called Five Eyes, which refers 289 00:15:26,774 --> 00:15:29,214 Speaker 1: to the five countries that are in the arrangement. I 290 00:15:29,254 --> 00:15:31,734 Speaker 1: think there's some thinking that five Eyes is going to 291 00:15:31,774 --> 00:15:35,814 Speaker 1: be really weakened because allies just can't trust the US 292 00:15:35,814 --> 00:15:38,494 Speaker 1: with their secrets anymore. Well, I think Biden's going to 293 00:15:38,494 --> 00:15:41,614 Speaker 1: do everything he can to push support to Ukraine before 294 00:15:41,614 --> 00:15:44,694 Speaker 1: he leaves office, knowing that that support will likely dry 295 00:15:44,774 --> 00:15:48,494 Speaker 1: up entirely once Trump comes in. There's about five billion 296 00:15:48,574 --> 00:15:53,654 Speaker 1: dollars worth of outstanding aid that's been reserved for Ukraine 297 00:15:53,694 --> 00:15:56,294 Speaker 1: by Congress, and I think the thinking is that he's 298 00:15:56,334 --> 00:15:59,014 Speaker 1: going to try and push through all five billion of 299 00:15:59,054 --> 00:16:01,414 Speaker 1: that in his remaining days in office. 300 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:05,614 Speaker 2: Trump has created a unique Manhattan Project for Government efficiency, 301 00:16:05,894 --> 00:16:09,414 Speaker 2: appointing Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami to oversee and be 302 00:16:09,894 --> 00:16:13,414 Speaker 2: federal budget cuts. Their target is to reduce government spending 303 00:16:13,454 --> 00:16:16,854 Speaker 2: by around two trillion dollars, representing one third of the 304 00:16:16,974 --> 00:16:20,014 Speaker 2: entire federal budget. But as ash Sekar pointed out on 305 00:16:20,054 --> 00:16:23,294 Speaker 2: the BBC's Politics Live program, there may be a serious 306 00:16:23,294 --> 00:16:26,174 Speaker 2: conflict of interest putting Musk in charge of government money. 307 00:16:26,414 --> 00:16:29,614 Speaker 8: Elon Musk two of his companies, Tesla and SpaceX, have 308 00:16:29,734 --> 00:16:32,534 Speaker 8: got brought up more than fifteen billion dollars worth of 309 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:35,694 Speaker 8: government contracts in the past decade. So putting him at 310 00:16:35,734 --> 00:16:37,814 Speaker 8: the center of government, is he going to be serving 311 00:16:37,854 --> 00:16:40,854 Speaker 8: the public's interests or his own? Even the name of 312 00:16:40,894 --> 00:16:44,534 Speaker 8: this department the Department of Governmental So you know why 313 00:16:44,534 --> 00:16:48,094 Speaker 8: it's called that, because it's named after a cryptocurrency, tho 314 00:16:48,214 --> 00:16:51,174 Speaker 8: coin that Elon Musk has himself promoted. Since the election 315 00:16:51,294 --> 00:16:55,014 Speaker 8: win for Donald Trump, Tesla shares have gone up by 316 00:16:55,054 --> 00:17:00,974 Speaker 8: thirty percent. This is putting really a poacher in charge 317 00:17:01,054 --> 00:17:04,494 Speaker 8: of gamekeeping Fox in charge of the hen House, and 318 00:17:04,574 --> 00:17:06,334 Speaker 8: all of us are talking about how great it is 319 00:17:06,374 --> 00:17:08,054 Speaker 8: for efficiency, Amelia. 320 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:11,014 Speaker 2: Will this position actually give must an unfair advantage with 321 00:17:11,094 --> 00:17:12,814 Speaker 2: government contracts in his own companies? 322 00:17:13,374 --> 00:17:16,174 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's safe to say there is. Tesla's 323 00:17:16,214 --> 00:17:18,774 Speaker 1: received about two point eight billion dollars in state and 324 00:17:18,814 --> 00:17:21,774 Speaker 1: federal government subsidies since it delivered its first current two 325 00:17:21,814 --> 00:17:24,454 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and it also has earned about nine 326 00:17:24,454 --> 00:17:27,734 Speaker 1: billion dollars from carbon credits sales since two thousand and nine. 327 00:17:27,774 --> 00:17:30,934 Speaker 1: That's basically the regulatory scheme set up by the federal government. 328 00:17:31,454 --> 00:17:34,774 Speaker 1: Mask is also looking to push through self driving cars 329 00:17:35,134 --> 00:17:37,094 Speaker 1: because that's a big part of where he sees the 330 00:17:37,094 --> 00:17:42,734 Speaker 1: future of Tesla going. And currently government agencies are investigating 331 00:17:42,734 --> 00:17:44,974 Speaker 1: the safety of those self driving cars, which so far 332 00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:48,374 Speaker 1: has not been an overwhelming safety record. But with him 333 00:17:48,454 --> 00:17:52,054 Speaker 1: in charge of government efficiency, you could see a scenario 334 00:17:52,134 --> 00:17:55,494 Speaker 1: where he pushes through those investigations under the guys that 335 00:17:55,534 --> 00:17:57,254 Speaker 1: he's improving government efficiency. 336 00:17:59,054 --> 00:18:03,094 Speaker 2: The National Security team includes Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, 337 00:18:03,214 --> 00:18:07,374 Speaker 2: the South Dakota governor. While lacking significant homeland security experience, 338 00:18:07,414 --> 00:18:10,734 Speaker 2: she's been a vocal supporter of Trump's immigration policies. You 339 00:18:10,814 --> 00:18:14,294 Speaker 2: might remember Christino em Betta for her candidacy for vice president. 340 00:18:14,614 --> 00:18:17,534 Speaker 2: It was derailed after revelations in her book about killing 341 00:18:17,574 --> 00:18:21,334 Speaker 2: an untrainable family dog. Marco Rubio is set to become 342 00:18:21,374 --> 00:18:25,014 Speaker 2: the first ever Latino Secretary of State. His appointment appears 343 00:18:25,054 --> 00:18:27,934 Speaker 2: to be a reward for his campaign loyalty despite saying 344 00:18:28,014 --> 00:18:30,094 Speaker 2: this just a few years ago about Donald Trump. 345 00:18:30,494 --> 00:18:32,294 Speaker 1: Do you all have friends that are thinking about voting 346 00:18:32,294 --> 00:18:33,014 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump? 347 00:18:33,094 --> 00:18:35,454 Speaker 8: Friends, do not let friends vote for conn artists. 348 00:18:36,934 --> 00:18:40,654 Speaker 2: His election brings experienced foreign policy expertise to the cabinet, 349 00:18:40,694 --> 00:18:44,854 Speaker 2: particularly regarding China, Emilia. Marco Rubio feels like he has 350 00:18:44,894 --> 00:18:47,334 Speaker 2: a bit of a JD Vance vibe. Now Vans called 351 00:18:47,334 --> 00:18:50,054 Speaker 2: Trump and Nazi. Now he's his VP. Rubio called him 352 00:18:50,054 --> 00:18:52,614 Speaker 2: a conn artist. Now he's nominated for secretary of State. 353 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,894 Speaker 2: How can Trump expect loyalty from men who speak about 354 00:18:55,974 --> 00:18:56,414 Speaker 2: him like this? 355 00:18:56,814 --> 00:18:59,614 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's part of Trump's genius, is that 356 00:18:59,854 --> 00:19:02,934 Speaker 1: he doesn't just expect loyalty. He ends up getting it. 357 00:19:03,014 --> 00:19:06,134 Speaker 1: And it's because he's basically just taken over this whole 358 00:19:06,174 --> 00:19:10,654 Speaker 1: party and seems to really inspire turn loyalty in this way. 359 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:13,734 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's worried about Rubio turning on him. 360 00:19:13,734 --> 00:19:17,054 Speaker 1: Having given Rubio this very powerful position of Secretary of State, 361 00:19:17,534 --> 00:19:20,414 Speaker 1: people have said this is probably Trump's most normal appointment. 362 00:19:20,654 --> 00:19:23,654 Speaker 1: It's even received some bipartisan acclaim. Of course, he ran 363 00:19:23,694 --> 00:19:27,374 Speaker 1: against Trump in twenty sixteen for the Republican presidential nomination. 364 00:19:27,934 --> 00:19:31,374 Speaker 1: His platform was very hawkish, which is odd because Trump's 365 00:19:31,414 --> 00:19:33,574 Speaker 1: whole thing this time around was that he wasn't going 366 00:19:33,614 --> 00:19:36,414 Speaker 1: to get the US into any more wars. Rubio is 367 00:19:36,414 --> 00:19:41,254 Speaker 1: on the record as having a pretty belligerent attitude towards China, Cuba, 368 00:19:41,334 --> 00:19:44,294 Speaker 1: Iran Venezuela. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to 369 00:19:44,294 --> 00:19:47,254 Speaker 1: push foreign intervention in some or all of those countries, 370 00:19:47,294 --> 00:19:49,294 Speaker 1: which is going to put him at loggerheads with what 371 00:19:49,334 --> 00:19:51,014 Speaker 1: Trump was saying during the campaign. 372 00:19:53,254 --> 00:19:55,814 Speaker 2: One of the other more controversial appointments is that of 373 00:19:55,894 --> 00:19:59,214 Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy Junior or RFK, who was nominated to 374 00:19:59,294 --> 00:20:02,094 Speaker 2: run for the Department of Health and Services. Even the 375 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:05,534 Speaker 2: New York Post, a Murdock owned publication that's been supportive 376 00:20:05,534 --> 00:20:08,814 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, has come out saying rfk's views on 377 00:20:09,014 --> 00:20:11,774 Speaker 2: health he is a head scratching spaghetti of what they 378 00:20:11,814 --> 00:20:15,934 Speaker 2: can only call warped conspiracy theories, and not just on vaccines. 379 00:20:16,374 --> 00:20:19,374 Speaker 2: The editorial board went on to say, convincing to the gullible, 380 00:20:19,414 --> 00:20:22,374 Speaker 2: conspiracy hungry crowd on Twitter that not to the rest 381 00:20:22,374 --> 00:20:24,894 Speaker 2: of us. They said, in fact, we came out thinking 382 00:20:24,934 --> 00:20:27,894 Speaker 2: he was nuts on a lot of fronts. Amelia, why 383 00:20:27,894 --> 00:20:31,014 Speaker 2: I put RFK, a known anti vaxer, in charge of health. 384 00:20:31,454 --> 00:20:33,534 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's run through what he said, and then I 385 00:20:33,614 --> 00:20:35,774 Speaker 1: want to float with you a theory as to why 386 00:20:35,854 --> 00:20:38,894 Speaker 1: I think this appointment is perhaps Trump's smartest of all. 387 00:20:39,414 --> 00:20:43,134 Speaker 1: RFK has claimed vaccines cause autism, He's linked depressants to 388 00:20:43,174 --> 00:20:46,614 Speaker 1: mass shootings. He's suggested HIV doesn't cause AIDS. None of 389 00:20:46,654 --> 00:20:49,334 Speaker 1: those things are true. And now, yes, in charge of 390 00:20:49,334 --> 00:20:52,334 Speaker 1: health and Human Services, he's going to oversee everything from 391 00:20:52,654 --> 00:20:56,374 Speaker 1: health insurance, to food safety, to the availability of vaccines. 392 00:20:56,574 --> 00:20:59,334 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are alarmed about this. But 393 00:20:59,574 --> 00:21:02,014 Speaker 1: here's why I think it's actually sort of a genius 394 00:21:02,054 --> 00:21:04,894 Speaker 1: move on Trump's part. There's a growing proportion of people 395 00:21:04,894 --> 00:21:07,694 Speaker 1: on both the left and the right who have skepticism 396 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:12,294 Speaker 1: about so called big farmer, big food manufacturers, a dubiousness 397 00:21:12,374 --> 00:21:15,454 Speaker 1: about the safety of food availability in the US and 398 00:21:15,494 --> 00:21:18,014 Speaker 1: the chemicals that are being put in foods. Just recently, 399 00:21:18,054 --> 00:21:22,054 Speaker 1: there was this big controversy because California banned red Skittles, 400 00:21:22,054 --> 00:21:24,694 Speaker 1: you know the lolly. They banned red Skittles because they 401 00:21:25,014 --> 00:21:27,494 Speaker 1: found that the chemical that was used in that food 402 00:21:27,534 --> 00:21:31,254 Speaker 1: dye was not safe in the government's view, And there 403 00:21:31,334 --> 00:21:33,454 Speaker 1: was a lot of consternation in the rest of the 404 00:21:33,574 --> 00:21:36,294 Speaker 1: US about why can't we also banned red skittles. So 405 00:21:36,934 --> 00:21:39,774 Speaker 1: I think he's tapping into a zeitgeismuth where people are 406 00:21:39,774 --> 00:21:43,094 Speaker 1: getting very skeptical about these big food conglomerates and these 407 00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:45,734 Speaker 1: big pharmaceutical companies that of course made so much money 408 00:21:45,814 --> 00:21:49,694 Speaker 1: during covid on vaccines. In some ways, I've just sort 409 00:21:49,694 --> 00:21:54,334 Speaker 1: of detected that people are less outraged about Robert F. 410 00:21:54,414 --> 00:21:56,854 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior than they might have been even just a 411 00:21:56,934 --> 00:21:57,534 Speaker 1: year ago. 412 00:21:58,574 --> 00:22:01,654 Speaker 2: This cabinet marks a stark departure from Trump's first term, 413 00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:05,454 Speaker 2: where appointees like Jeff Sessions, Jim Mattison, John Bolton often 414 00:22:05,494 --> 00:22:10,094 Speaker 2: acted as restraining influences. Bolton has called Gates' nominationarticular, the 415 00:22:10,134 --> 00:22:14,894 Speaker 2: worst cabinet appointment in American history. Trump's selections reflect his 416 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,614 Speaker 2: stated commitment to avoid what he told Joe Rogan on 417 00:22:17,654 --> 00:22:21,494 Speaker 2: his podcast was his biggest mistake, and that was appointing 418 00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:24,814 Speaker 2: disloyal people. Of the forty four members who served in 419 00:22:24,814 --> 00:22:27,854 Speaker 2: his first cabinet, only four of them endorsed his twenty 420 00:22:27,894 --> 00:22:32,254 Speaker 2: twenty four presidential bid. These appointments so are facing significant 421 00:22:32,294 --> 00:22:37,094 Speaker 2: hurdles in the Senate confirmation process, even with Republican control, Amelia, 422 00:22:37,214 --> 00:22:39,374 Speaker 2: what are the chances some of Trump's picks won't actually 423 00:22:39,414 --> 00:22:41,014 Speaker 2: make it through the confirmation process. 424 00:22:42,094 --> 00:22:44,574 Speaker 1: I think some of them face a real uphill battle. 425 00:22:44,694 --> 00:22:47,894 Speaker 1: In particular, I would cite Gates given the allegations that 426 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:51,214 Speaker 1: have swelled around him, and Pete Hegseth I think are 427 00:22:51,214 --> 00:22:54,614 Speaker 1: particularly controversial picks. Maybe also i'd throw a Tolsy Gabbett 428 00:22:54,614 --> 00:22:59,054 Speaker 1: in there. But I think that there's some thinking that 429 00:22:59,094 --> 00:23:02,974 Speaker 1: Trump may force these through without the Senate's approval. I 430 00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:05,214 Speaker 1: don't want to get two in the weeds, but basically, 431 00:23:05,694 --> 00:23:09,254 Speaker 1: a conservative legal activist named Ed Wheeland tweeted recently that 432 00:23:09,334 --> 00:23:12,974 Speaker 1: he been hearing that Trump was going to basically force 433 00:23:13,014 --> 00:23:15,054 Speaker 1: the Senate to take some time off, and when the 434 00:23:15,054 --> 00:23:17,974 Speaker 1: Senate took the time off, he would force through these appointments. 435 00:23:18,254 --> 00:23:21,534 Speaker 1: That would be pretty unprecedented. Obama tried to do something 436 00:23:21,614 --> 00:23:24,254 Speaker 1: a bit like this, and the Supreme Court struck him down. 437 00:23:24,334 --> 00:23:28,334 Speaker 1: But now that the Supreme Court is staffed with Trump loyalists, 438 00:23:28,454 --> 00:23:30,094 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you'd see the same result. 439 00:23:30,654 --> 00:23:33,334 Speaker 2: Is there anyone we've forgotten? Amelia? There seems to be 440 00:23:33,414 --> 00:23:36,134 Speaker 2: such a cast of characters. Is there anyone else that 441 00:23:36,174 --> 00:23:38,734 Speaker 2: we need to be aware of who will be essentially 442 00:23:38,734 --> 00:23:40,894 Speaker 2: helping run the US government come twenty twenty five. 443 00:23:41,254 --> 00:23:41,494 Speaker 4: Yeah. 444 00:23:41,494 --> 00:23:44,214 Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight two other appointments that are related 445 00:23:44,254 --> 00:23:47,774 Speaker 1: to the environment and climate. These appointments are actually pretty 446 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:51,254 Speaker 1: conventional insofar as they reflect the platform that Trump ran 447 00:23:51,294 --> 00:23:53,774 Speaker 1: on and they do have experience in government. The first 448 00:23:53,814 --> 00:23:56,374 Speaker 1: is Doug Bergham, Secretary of the Interior. The second is 449 00:23:56,454 --> 00:23:59,934 Speaker 1: Lee Zelden for the Environmental Protection Agency. Doug Bergham is 450 00:23:59,974 --> 00:24:03,014 Speaker 1: a billionaire who supports oil drilling on public lands, and 451 00:24:03,094 --> 00:24:04,974 Speaker 1: he's now going to be in charge of public lands. 452 00:24:05,374 --> 00:24:08,174 Speaker 1: Lee Zelden voted to cut the funding for the Environmental 453 00:24:08,254 --> 00:24:12,334 Speaker 1: Protection Agency, so voted to scrap its chemical risk assessment program, 454 00:24:12,334 --> 00:24:14,854 Speaker 1: which decides which chemicals are safe to put in water 455 00:24:14,934 --> 00:24:17,134 Speaker 1: and in the air, And he also wanted to block 456 00:24:17,174 --> 00:24:20,854 Speaker 1: the agency from taking action teristic carbon pollutions. So I 457 00:24:20,934 --> 00:24:22,894 Speaker 1: wanted to highlight those because I think we're going to 458 00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:26,254 Speaker 1: see a sea change in terms of how the US 459 00:24:26,494 --> 00:24:28,974 Speaker 1: approaches the fight against climate change. 460 00:24:30,534 --> 00:24:33,894 Speaker 2: The Senate confirmation process in early twenty twenty five will 461 00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:38,534 Speaker 2: ultimately determine which of these controversial appointments will actually take offers, 462 00:24:39,054 --> 00:24:41,134 Speaker 2: and just to finish if you weren't across just how 463 00:24:41,174 --> 00:24:44,254 Speaker 2: many things are happening in changing with the cabinet appointments 464 00:24:44,294 --> 00:24:46,574 Speaker 2: and all the things Donald Trump's promising to do now 465 00:24:46,574 --> 00:24:49,574 Speaker 2: that he's won this election. Remember the twins played by 466 00:24:49,694 --> 00:24:52,814 Speaker 2: Armie Hammer in the Social Network, Well, they benefit too. 467 00:24:53,174 --> 00:24:55,734 Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels like we're hearing from people from the 468 00:24:55,774 --> 00:24:58,254 Speaker 1: past that we thought we were done with with this administration. 469 00:24:58,334 --> 00:25:00,574 Speaker 1: One example is the winkle Vas twins. Remember them from 470 00:25:00,574 --> 00:25:03,534 Speaker 1: the Social Network. They were the Cameron and Tyler Winklevass. 471 00:25:03,614 --> 00:25:07,414 Speaker 1: They claimed that they had actually invented Facebook, not Mark Zuckerberg. 472 00:25:07,654 --> 00:25:10,334 Speaker 1: They have that big on cryptocurrency. They have a bitcoin 473 00:25:10,414 --> 00:25:12,654 Speaker 1: exchange named gemin. I don't ask me to explain what 474 00:25:12,734 --> 00:25:15,854 Speaker 1: a bitcoin exchange is, but they do. New York State 475 00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:19,574 Speaker 1: has been investigating them on claims that are defauded investors. 476 00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:22,494 Speaker 1: But now Trump has said he's going to block these 477 00:25:22,534 --> 00:25:25,894 Speaker 1: tough federal rules on cryptocurrencies that enabled New York State 478 00:25:25,974 --> 00:25:29,134 Speaker 1: to investigate the Winklevoss twins. So they are winning big 479 00:25:29,214 --> 00:25:29,654 Speaker 1: right now. 480 00:25:30,494 --> 00:25:32,174 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with 481 00:25:32,254 --> 00:25:35,134 Speaker 2: us today. The Quickie is produced by me Claire Murphy 482 00:25:35,174 --> 00:25:38,414 Speaker 2: and our executive producer Taylor Strano, with audio production by 483 00:25:38,494 --> 00:25:39,294 Speaker 2: Teak and sad Love.