1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:18,984 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of Land and Waders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:22,504 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Hello is Spellers. It's Laura Brodneck here. 4 00:00:23,024 --> 00:00:25,464 Speaker 1: So with the very important news that Joe Jonas and 5 00:00:25,544 --> 00:00:28,104 Speaker 1: his brothers, the other Jonas brothers, have announced that they 6 00:00:28,144 --> 00:00:30,664 Speaker 1: have a Christmas movie coming out the end of the year, 7 00:00:31,184 --> 00:00:33,664 Speaker 1: we wanted to share something very special with you that 8 00:00:33,944 --> 00:00:36,464 Speaker 1: deep dives into the life of the middle Jonas brother. 9 00:00:37,024 --> 00:00:39,944 Speaker 1: So here is an episode from Mamma MIA's comedy podcast 10 00:00:40,064 --> 00:00:43,384 Speaker 1: Canceled that takes us through the journey of Joe Jonas 11 00:00:43,704 --> 00:00:47,224 Speaker 1: from purity Rings to public breakups, including everything that went 12 00:00:47,264 --> 00:00:50,704 Speaker 1: down with Sophie Turner. Plus there are some very important 13 00:00:50,744 --> 00:00:53,624 Speaker 1: camp rock memories in there. So enjoy this episode and 14 00:00:53,664 --> 00:00:56,064 Speaker 1: will be back in your feed tomorrow. 15 00:01:04,864 --> 00:01:07,504 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Canceled, the podcast that looks at 16 00:01:07,544 --> 00:01:10,184 Speaker 2: silly celebrity crimes and as science charges and sentences to 17 00:01:10,744 --> 00:01:13,064 Speaker 2: so we can all move on with our lives. I'm 18 00:01:13,104 --> 00:01:16,584 Speaker 2: Claire Stephens and I'm Jesse Stephens. And Jesse, do you 19 00:01:16,624 --> 00:01:19,384 Speaker 2: have a Lazy Girls story for us? I do. It 20 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:23,144 Speaker 2: is from Renee. She says, I'm a laser girl love 21 00:01:23,184 --> 00:01:25,624 Speaker 2: and I have a story to tell self identifying. Yep, 22 00:01:26,184 --> 00:01:28,984 Speaker 2: I'm pretty messy. I don't wash my dishes every day anyway. 23 00:01:29,064 --> 00:01:31,264 Speaker 2: Years ago, I was living in Coffs Harbor, which has 24 00:01:31,304 --> 00:01:34,904 Speaker 2: a subtropical climate. This story happened during the warmer months. 25 00:01:35,424 --> 00:01:38,424 Speaker 2: This does become relevant, can confirm. So I had someone 26 00:01:38,464 --> 00:01:40,264 Speaker 2: coming over that I didn't know very well, and I 27 00:01:40,304 --> 00:01:42,784 Speaker 2: had to tidy my apartment up. I love how if 28 00:01:42,784 --> 00:01:45,544 Speaker 2: it was someone she didn't know well, Yeah, I procrastinated 29 00:01:45,584 --> 00:01:47,584 Speaker 2: and then didn't have enough time to properly tidy. Run 30 00:01:47,624 --> 00:01:50,624 Speaker 2: The door opened into the kitchen and dining area, and 31 00:01:50,664 --> 00:01:52,384 Speaker 2: I didn't have time to wash up all the dishes, 32 00:01:52,424 --> 00:01:55,664 Speaker 2: so I just hid them in the linen cupboard. Obviously, 33 00:01:55,864 --> 00:01:57,464 Speaker 2: I had the guests over and no one knew I 34 00:01:57,504 --> 00:02:01,304 Speaker 2: was messy, fabulous lazy girl hack and everyone left. I 35 00:02:01,344 --> 00:02:03,464 Speaker 2: should have gotten the dirty dishes out of the lidden cupboard, 36 00:02:03,464 --> 00:02:07,144 Speaker 2: but I procrastinated and then I forgot. It wasn't a 37 00:02:07,224 --> 00:02:09,384 Speaker 2: lot of dishes, but one of them was a large 38 00:02:09,424 --> 00:02:12,184 Speaker 2: soup pot that i'd made rice in. Three weeks later, 39 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:15,424 Speaker 2: I opened that cupboard a bit of rice and that 40 00:02:15,464 --> 00:02:19,384 Speaker 2: pot had fermented washing Those dishes really sucked. And I've 41 00:02:19,504 --> 00:02:22,984 Speaker 2: never hidden dirty dishes again. She's a lazy girl, because 42 00:02:22,984 --> 00:02:24,344 Speaker 2: that's the thing. It took her weeks to get to 43 00:02:24,384 --> 00:02:26,824 Speaker 2: the linen cupboard, because the linen cupboard means that you're 44 00:02:26,904 --> 00:02:29,464 Speaker 2: changing linen, which is also a task related to me, 45 00:02:29,504 --> 00:02:31,104 Speaker 2: and I don't reckon that she was changing linen. I 46 00:02:31,184 --> 00:02:34,664 Speaker 2: think maybe there are towels in it. Her current tail 47 00:02:34,744 --> 00:02:37,144 Speaker 2: was wet, Yeah, so she needed a dry one fresh toil, 48 00:02:37,184 --> 00:02:42,224 Speaker 2: fresh towel. Great way to tidy clean without cleaning, I 49 00:02:42,344 --> 00:02:47,064 Speaker 2: found is dishwasher. Put things in the dishwasher. Don't turn 50 00:02:47,064 --> 00:02:49,544 Speaker 2: it on because then you got to unstack it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 51 00:02:49,584 --> 00:02:52,304 Speaker 2: but have you found that? Then you'll have people over 52 00:02:52,344 --> 00:02:54,184 Speaker 2: and someone will hopefully try and put something in the 53 00:02:54,184 --> 00:02:56,744 Speaker 2: dishwasher and you're like and they open it and you're like, 54 00:02:57,064 --> 00:03:00,944 Speaker 2: fucking stinks. That has been in there for four days 55 00:03:00,944 --> 00:03:02,464 Speaker 2: because I don't want to turn it on because then 56 00:03:02,504 --> 00:03:06,184 Speaker 2: I have to unstack it. Yes, the other thing, washing machine, 57 00:03:06,704 --> 00:03:09,904 Speaker 2: fill it with dirty stuff, don't turn it on because 58 00:03:09,944 --> 00:03:12,264 Speaker 2: again then you got to Yeah, but then have you 59 00:03:12,304 --> 00:03:13,984 Speaker 2: ever forgotten you didn't put it on and then put 60 00:03:14,024 --> 00:03:16,624 Speaker 2: it in the dryer because I have yes, yes, so 61 00:03:16,624 --> 00:03:18,984 Speaker 2: I'll hung it out. Yeah, and I never washed it 62 00:03:19,144 --> 00:03:21,224 Speaker 2: or just we've got to washer dryer, so sometimes I 63 00:03:21,304 --> 00:03:26,464 Speaker 2: might take it out. This ain't clean, This is still stanky, okay. 64 00:03:27,184 --> 00:03:29,824 Speaker 2: And my partner is like, why would you feel a 65 00:03:29,944 --> 00:03:33,064 Speaker 2: machine and not even turn it on? Hey, don't mess 66 00:03:33,104 --> 00:03:35,664 Speaker 2: with my logic. I'm a perfect girl. I claim the 67 00:03:35,744 --> 00:03:41,664 Speaker 2: house well, superfusially, Jesse. Today we're talking about Joe Jonas. 68 00:03:41,864 --> 00:03:45,384 Speaker 3: He's an actor, a multi platinum selling recording artist, without doubt, 69 00:03:45,424 --> 00:03:48,944 Speaker 3: one are the top four Jonas brothers you'll ever move, 70 00:03:50,184 --> 00:03:52,104 Speaker 3: the Mighty, the delicious Jo. 71 00:03:52,744 --> 00:03:55,224 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about me or my brothers, 72 00:03:55,224 --> 00:03:57,904 Speaker 2: but we attract ghosts. Right, He's ready, I'm Joe. 73 00:03:57,864 --> 00:04:00,344 Speaker 3: Jonas and this is the Jojo Show, Roll the Time. 74 00:04:03,784 --> 00:04:08,744 Speaker 2: Joseph Adam Jonas is an American singer, songwriter, and actor, 75 00:04:09,224 --> 00:04:11,984 Speaker 2: best known for being one of the Jonas Brothers with 76 00:04:12,064 --> 00:04:15,384 Speaker 2: his brothers Kevin and Nick. I never got into the 77 00:04:15,464 --> 00:04:17,784 Speaker 2: Jonas brothers. Were they just a few years before? We're 78 00:04:17,784 --> 00:04:22,624 Speaker 2: too old because they're Disney, So Disney the fame of 79 00:04:22,744 --> 00:04:28,784 Speaker 2: we're talking my lead, we're talking Demi, and we're talking Selena. Yeah, 80 00:04:28,824 --> 00:04:30,784 Speaker 2: and they were just all little young for me. Yeah, 81 00:04:30,784 --> 00:04:34,744 Speaker 2: even Hannah Montana. I remember we were only a couple 82 00:04:34,784 --> 00:04:38,344 Speaker 2: of years too old. But then I remember we were 83 00:04:38,424 --> 00:04:42,264 Speaker 2: very Nickelodeon. Yeah, we were the Amanda show. We were 84 00:04:42,824 --> 00:04:46,464 Speaker 2: what was that show about? Kevin and kel Keenan and 85 00:04:46,504 --> 00:04:49,424 Speaker 2: Keenan and kel Keenan and Kell and they had their 86 00:04:49,424 --> 00:04:52,504 Speaker 2: Orange Solder. That was. That was more our Drake and Josh. 87 00:04:52,744 --> 00:04:55,984 Speaker 2: Drake and Josh, Yes, either Drake or Josh. See, we 88 00:04:55,984 --> 00:04:58,824 Speaker 2: were the Nickelodeon generation. We weren't Disney. But then I 89 00:04:58,864 --> 00:05:03,664 Speaker 2: remember we randomly got into Hannah Montana, but quite arbitrarily, 90 00:05:03,704 --> 00:05:05,824 Speaker 2: and we just started watching like the Hannah Montana movies 91 00:05:05,944 --> 00:05:08,544 Speaker 2: Jack with our brothers. Oh did we Yeah, Hannah Montana 92 00:05:08,584 --> 00:05:10,424 Speaker 2: movies were excellent. That's how we then got on to 93 00:05:10,904 --> 00:05:13,744 Speaker 2: the Banger the last song, Oh that was brilliant. Yeah, 94 00:05:13,784 --> 00:05:16,264 Speaker 2: but I was also more an Olsen twin. I remember 95 00:05:16,544 --> 00:05:19,824 Speaker 2: they had a great show. They couldn't their hair, but 96 00:05:19,864 --> 00:05:22,824 Speaker 2: I was more the Olsen twins. Yeah, Joe Jonas like 97 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:24,744 Speaker 2: I would need to be reminded of what a Jonah's 98 00:05:24,744 --> 00:05:28,304 Speaker 2: brother's song sounds like. Yes, yes, you know I discovered 99 00:05:28,944 --> 00:05:34,544 Speaker 2: the sucker. Did you know that's it? I didn't know that. 100 00:05:34,824 --> 00:05:39,144 Speaker 2: I did know, I didn't know. Yeah. So my kind 101 00:05:39,184 --> 00:05:43,984 Speaker 2: of connection to Joe Jonas is more about his marriage 102 00:05:44,024 --> 00:05:46,624 Speaker 2: Sophie Turner. Oh yeah, and him being a bit of 103 00:05:46,664 --> 00:05:50,304 Speaker 2: a dirty dog. Yeah, that's kind of Game of Thrones fame. 104 00:05:50,464 --> 00:05:53,064 Speaker 2: We like Sophie Turner. We don't know why she married 105 00:05:53,104 --> 00:05:55,424 Speaker 2: Joe Jonas. I was a bit like, here's Joe Jonas, 106 00:05:55,424 --> 00:05:56,984 Speaker 2: and I was like, he's sung that sucker song and 107 00:05:57,024 --> 00:06:01,144 Speaker 2: now they're divorced. Now some people are very Jonahs brothers people. 108 00:06:01,744 --> 00:06:03,784 Speaker 2: To those people, I'm sorry if we have some of 109 00:06:03,784 --> 00:06:06,744 Speaker 2: the vibes wrong. Apparently they did overlap at one stage 110 00:06:06,784 --> 00:06:09,184 Speaker 2: with Jesse McCarney. I was very into Jesse McCartney. Yeah. 111 00:06:09,304 --> 00:06:11,984 Speaker 2: Jonah's brother started when they were really young, Like the 112 00:06:12,024 --> 00:06:15,584 Speaker 2: youngest one was eleven. Yeah, literally almost twenty years ago. 113 00:06:15,784 --> 00:06:20,744 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So my vibe on them is very top line. 114 00:06:20,784 --> 00:06:24,184 Speaker 2: And my vibe was that Joe Jonas was the most famous. 115 00:06:24,464 --> 00:06:27,704 Speaker 2: But no, incorrect, it's Nick. Does Nick have a song? 116 00:06:27,744 --> 00:06:29,464 Speaker 2: I'd know you don't have to do a tax. 117 00:06:29,784 --> 00:06:40,224 Speaker 4: Beautiful is that he is married to Pranka Chopra and 118 00:06:40,304 --> 00:06:43,544 Speaker 4: he has thirty five million followers on Instagram, as opposed 119 00:06:43,544 --> 00:06:46,944 Speaker 4: to Joe who only has twelve and Kevin only us five. 120 00:06:48,744 --> 00:06:48,944 Speaker 1: Yeah. 121 00:06:49,024 --> 00:06:51,144 Speaker 2: I feel sad for Kevin. Yeah. I think he went 122 00:06:51,184 --> 00:06:53,624 Speaker 2: into a degree at some point which was and has 123 00:06:53,664 --> 00:06:56,504 Speaker 2: like a stable family and stuff. Yeah. Now it's important 124 00:06:56,504 --> 00:06:58,024 Speaker 2: and him and Prianca are still together. 125 00:06:58,064 --> 00:06:58,424 Speaker 4: I don't know. 126 00:06:58,424 --> 00:07:01,024 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of context for Priyanka either. Really, 127 00:07:01,544 --> 00:07:04,624 Speaker 2: Pranka is one of the biggest Bollywood actor of all time. 128 00:07:04,824 --> 00:07:07,784 Speaker 2: The wedding was amazing. I just know she's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, 129 00:07:07,904 --> 00:07:11,944 Speaker 2: Now it's important at this point that we knowledge there 130 00:07:12,024 --> 00:07:17,184 Speaker 2: is a fourth Jonahs brother. His name is Frankie. He's 131 00:07:17,224 --> 00:07:21,224 Speaker 2: twenty three. He's a Rob Kardashhan. You just know he's like, guys, 132 00:07:21,304 --> 00:07:23,464 Speaker 2: can I be in the Jonahs Brothers? And his brothers 133 00:07:23,464 --> 00:07:26,744 Speaker 2: are like, hmm no, how do you explain that just 134 00:07:26,784 --> 00:07:30,504 Speaker 2: because you're a Jonas brother Jonahs's brothers do we know 135 00:07:30,544 --> 00:07:33,984 Speaker 2: if he's talented? I mean, I don't think Kevin's challenged. Well, 136 00:07:34,984 --> 00:07:37,264 Speaker 2: he's definitely like, I'm a Jonahs brother and they're like 137 00:07:37,384 --> 00:07:40,184 Speaker 2: not really. The Jonahs Brothers started in two thousand and five. 138 00:07:40,704 --> 00:07:43,944 Speaker 2: Frankie would have been approximately five years old. Which indeed 139 00:07:43,984 --> 00:07:46,624 Speaker 2: feels too young to be a professional performer. I reckon 140 00:07:46,624 --> 00:07:48,584 Speaker 2: they consider it. I reckon they considered it, and I 141 00:07:48,624 --> 00:07:51,744 Speaker 2: think there was like a critical period where Frankie said 142 00:07:51,824 --> 00:07:54,384 Speaker 2: I can join now, and they yeah, no, frank too late. 143 00:07:54,984 --> 00:07:57,184 Speaker 2: No what does he do with himself? I think he 144 00:07:57,264 --> 00:07:59,744 Speaker 2: does some music, he does some performing, but he's not 145 00:07:59,784 --> 00:08:04,384 Speaker 2: a Jonah's brother, absolutely a Robert. Yeah, he hosts a 146 00:08:04,424 --> 00:08:08,544 Speaker 2: reality show with Kevin and you both have time. Yeah, 147 00:08:08,664 --> 00:08:12,544 Speaker 2: they both have time. You know that. Frankie was like, Kevin, 148 00:08:12,584 --> 00:08:15,024 Speaker 2: you're more famous than me, but less famous than the others. 149 00:08:15,824 --> 00:08:18,504 Speaker 2: Let's do a show. And it's actually a great concept. 150 00:08:19,424 --> 00:08:22,904 Speaker 2: It's a reality show with people who are loosely related 151 00:08:23,344 --> 00:08:27,584 Speaker 2: to a celebrity of fun. It's actually really I'm very 152 00:08:27,584 --> 00:08:31,104 Speaker 2: interested in that we've said we are loosely related through 153 00:08:31,264 --> 00:08:35,504 Speaker 2: various cousins blood or not to Bo Ryan, who once 154 00:08:35,584 --> 00:08:40,104 Speaker 2: played Rugby Lake for the Karannala Shucks and hosts The 155 00:08:40,144 --> 00:08:43,504 Speaker 2: Amazing Race. Yeah. Yeah, it's changed our lives be related 156 00:08:43,504 --> 00:08:46,184 Speaker 2: to him. So I think we would actually be able 157 00:08:46,224 --> 00:08:49,024 Speaker 2: to go and claim to fac The Jonahs brothers also 158 00:08:49,104 --> 00:08:51,944 Speaker 2: became well known on the Disney Channel during their teen 159 00:08:52,024 --> 00:08:56,024 Speaker 2: years appearing in such bangers as Camp Rock, Camp Rock 160 00:08:56,104 --> 00:09:00,104 Speaker 2: two and two series about the Jonahs brothers specifically called 161 00:09:00,344 --> 00:09:05,264 Speaker 2: Jonas Brothers Living the Dream and Jonas Jonas was like 162 00:09:05,464 --> 00:09:07,904 Speaker 2: one of those teen TV shows with terrible plots and 163 00:09:07,984 --> 00:09:10,864 Speaker 2: terrible dialogue set in a high school. Oh, I love 164 00:09:10,944 --> 00:09:14,504 Speaker 2: anything set in high school. It's like slapstick comedy, oh 165 00:09:14,544 --> 00:09:18,224 Speaker 2: with canned laughter. Yes, yeah, yes, because otherwise you don't 166 00:09:18,264 --> 00:09:20,464 Speaker 2: know what's meant to be because it's not funny. Joe 167 00:09:20,544 --> 00:09:23,984 Speaker 2: Jonas is the second oldest, the middle child if you 168 00:09:24,104 --> 00:09:27,864 Speaker 2: leave out Frankie, So make of that what you will. 169 00:09:28,664 --> 00:09:31,944 Speaker 2: My interest in Joe Jonas, as previously stated, is solely 170 00:09:31,984 --> 00:09:35,264 Speaker 2: related to his messy breakup with Sophie Turner. I'm also 171 00:09:35,304 --> 00:09:37,944 Speaker 2: familiar with him as a coach on The Voice Australia. 172 00:09:38,104 --> 00:09:39,824 Speaker 2: Was her coach on The Voice Australia. Yeah sure? 173 00:09:39,864 --> 00:09:42,584 Speaker 1: Are you a fan of the Jonas Brothers or I 174 00:09:42,624 --> 00:09:45,144 Speaker 1: played pin the lips on the Jonahs Brothers at my 175 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:46,424 Speaker 1: thirteenth birthday party? 176 00:09:46,504 --> 00:09:50,304 Speaker 2: Like I love you guys? I remember that party? Yeah? Now, 177 00:09:50,304 --> 00:09:53,664 Speaker 2: who did Minley date? Was that a Joe nick? I 178 00:09:53,664 --> 00:09:57,624 Speaker 2: feel like every undated nick? No no, because Joe dated 179 00:09:57,624 --> 00:10:02,584 Speaker 2: Demi Lovado. Really they dated different people, but together the 180 00:10:02,664 --> 00:10:05,424 Speaker 2: Jonah's brothers dated a lot of people. All right, Jesse, 181 00:10:05,984 --> 00:10:08,824 Speaker 2: I have a Joe Jonahs story. I have a baby, 182 00:10:09,184 --> 00:10:12,184 Speaker 2: and my usband and I have sort of decided I 183 00:10:12,264 --> 00:10:15,984 Speaker 2: do the baby, you do the dog. I can't also 184 00:10:16,024 --> 00:10:17,904 Speaker 2: do the dog. Deal with him. The other day we 185 00:10:17,944 --> 00:10:20,304 Speaker 2: had an argument about what mental load is higher? Baby, 186 00:10:20,344 --> 00:10:23,504 Speaker 2: your dog, he insisted dog. I said, die of disagree. 187 00:10:23,544 --> 00:10:26,864 Speaker 2: You're fucked anyway. He's taking our dog for a walk. 188 00:10:27,104 --> 00:10:31,304 Speaker 2: Something to know about our dog is he is so old. 189 00:10:31,944 --> 00:10:34,384 Speaker 2: He looks like a zombie. He looks like he died. 190 00:10:34,424 --> 00:10:36,584 Speaker 2: He looks like Prince Philip did for the tax before 191 00:10:36,624 --> 00:10:39,584 Speaker 2: he died, like his eyes are no longer eyes. And 192 00:10:39,664 --> 00:10:41,944 Speaker 2: it's important to know he's not in pain. No, he's 193 00:10:41,944 --> 00:10:45,944 Speaker 2: not his best self. No, he has a cancerous growth 194 00:10:45,984 --> 00:10:48,664 Speaker 2: on his stomach that we have been told would be 195 00:10:48,784 --> 00:10:51,584 Speaker 2: riskier to operate on than to leave. And it looks 196 00:10:51,624 --> 00:10:55,384 Speaker 2: like a teat, it runs along the floor. It's so big. 197 00:10:55,464 --> 00:10:58,504 Speaker 2: It's like a bad breast on a boy. Yeah. And 198 00:10:58,944 --> 00:11:00,984 Speaker 2: he's not the kind of dog where people stop and say, 199 00:11:01,024 --> 00:11:02,984 Speaker 2: what a beautiful boy. He's the kind of dog where 200 00:11:02,984 --> 00:11:06,584 Speaker 2: people go, oh, yeah, because his eyes up a lot 201 00:11:06,624 --> 00:11:10,984 Speaker 2: of footpath anyway, So he's walking around with my partner 202 00:11:11,344 --> 00:11:15,984 Speaker 2: very very slowly, his joints hurt, and somebody says, hello, 203 00:11:16,064 --> 00:11:18,824 Speaker 2: old boy. Oh wow, what a cute old man. That 204 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:21,664 Speaker 2: kind of comment. My partner looks up to smile and 205 00:11:21,704 --> 00:11:23,904 Speaker 2: acknowledge this person. He looks up and he goes, that 206 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:27,224 Speaker 2: would be Joe Jonas. I'm a super Why is Jojonas 207 00:11:27,264 --> 00:11:33,024 Speaker 2: in Bunda because he was performing. Yeah, it was Joe 208 00:11:33,104 --> 00:11:36,784 Speaker 2: Jonas in the company of Anyone. Yes, he's a new girlfriend. Wow, 209 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:40,424 Speaker 2: Bree stormy who he'll get to? Okay, Now Rory looked 210 00:11:40,504 --> 00:11:43,984 Speaker 2: up and went, holy goodness, that's Joe Jonas. And Caesar 211 00:11:44,144 --> 00:11:49,464 Speaker 2: actually said hello Jo Jonas. Hi, Jo Jonahs, And he 212 00:11:49,664 --> 00:11:52,464 Speaker 2: really took it in his stride. Really did he come 213 00:11:52,504 --> 00:11:55,584 Speaker 2: back with a real kind of springing step. Yeah. And 214 00:11:55,664 --> 00:11:57,544 Speaker 2: I was asleep and Rory woke me up and was 215 00:11:57,584 --> 00:11:59,904 Speaker 2: like started telling me a story and I'm like, shut up. 216 00:12:00,144 --> 00:12:01,384 Speaker 2: And then he gets to the end and I was like, 217 00:12:01,384 --> 00:12:04,264 Speaker 2: that's a banger story. That is a great story. That slaps. 218 00:12:04,464 --> 00:12:07,744 Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is I'm like, yeah, Rory, you saw 219 00:12:07,824 --> 00:12:10,904 Speaker 2: Joe Jonas. Sure yeap. Do you even know what Joe 220 00:12:10,944 --> 00:12:13,664 Speaker 2: Jonas is? Yeah? Then we're walking on the street the 221 00:12:13,704 --> 00:12:17,184 Speaker 2: next day, we get an ice cream, we both walk 222 00:12:17,224 --> 00:12:19,504 Speaker 2: past somebody. We look at each other. That's Joe Jonas. 223 00:12:19,824 --> 00:12:23,704 Speaker 2: We saw him again. Does he look like a famous person? No, 224 00:12:24,184 --> 00:12:26,424 Speaker 2: and none of them do that. We saw them sitting 225 00:12:26,464 --> 00:12:29,064 Speaker 2: in a group having drinks. And there were the three 226 00:12:29,104 --> 00:12:32,344 Speaker 2: boys and wait, all the Jonases. Yes, we saw all 227 00:12:32,424 --> 00:12:36,104 Speaker 2: all the Gases. Yes, but I noticed Joe, even Kevin, yes, 228 00:12:36,504 --> 00:12:39,464 Speaker 2: but not Frankie. No. Well, Freankie could have been there. 229 00:12:39,464 --> 00:12:42,424 Speaker 2: I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know they were all sitting there. 230 00:12:42,984 --> 00:12:45,744 Speaker 2: And then was there a fuss being man? No? And 231 00:12:45,784 --> 00:12:49,264 Speaker 2: then I have seen on Instagram a million other people. 232 00:12:49,464 --> 00:12:52,344 Speaker 2: Oh friends, we're here from overseas. Did the bond e 233 00:12:52,424 --> 00:12:55,824 Speaker 2: to Bronte saw Joe Jonas. Since when you get Joe Jonas, 234 00:12:55,904 --> 00:12:58,304 Speaker 2: just be Joe Jonas out in the wild, exclusively in 235 00:12:58,384 --> 00:13:01,264 Speaker 2: BONDI it's the weirdest thing. No one was making a fuss. 236 00:13:01,784 --> 00:13:03,664 Speaker 2: Oh my, I think because it takes you a second. 237 00:13:03,664 --> 00:13:06,144 Speaker 2: You're like, there's a guy. I think that guy's Joe Jonas. 238 00:13:06,344 --> 00:13:11,944 Speaker 2: Does he dress famous? No? Wow? Very casual? Really important 239 00:13:11,984 --> 00:13:14,104 Speaker 2: to enter into the courtroom. Yeah. The thing I'd like 240 00:13:14,144 --> 00:13:17,344 Speaker 2: to enter is he's a fan of my dog and 241 00:13:17,384 --> 00:13:20,624 Speaker 2: because of that goes up in my books. He's a 242 00:13:20,624 --> 00:13:24,184 Speaker 2: fan of old boys. Now important to note he was 243 00:13:24,224 --> 00:13:27,424 Speaker 2: with his girlfriend. Yep, the kids were not in sight, 244 00:13:28,344 --> 00:13:32,184 Speaker 2: all right, so you're judging interesting because when he saw 245 00:13:32,264 --> 00:13:37,144 Speaker 2: Rory with Caesar, Rory's kid wasn't any site. O. That's different. 246 00:13:38,024 --> 00:13:41,304 Speaker 2: But also I then when Rory said he'd seen Joe Jonas, 247 00:13:41,704 --> 00:13:45,144 Speaker 2: I then gave Rory just a quick summary of what's 248 00:13:45,144 --> 00:13:47,664 Speaker 2: happened in Joe Jonas's life over the last six months, 249 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:50,744 Speaker 2: and Rory said he has children. That was not a 250 00:13:50,744 --> 00:13:53,264 Speaker 2: man with children. I don't know what he meant by that. 251 00:13:53,904 --> 00:13:57,904 Speaker 2: That he looked refreshed, didn't look exhausted. Rory was probably 252 00:13:57,904 --> 00:14:00,704 Speaker 2: walking around with his pants on backwards and he's saying, 253 00:14:01,024 --> 00:14:03,984 Speaker 2: hold on, yeah, he looked good. How do we look 254 00:14:03,984 --> 00:14:06,784 Speaker 2: good when we have children? Anyway, So that's a plus 255 00:14:06,784 --> 00:14:09,344 Speaker 2: for Joe Jonas. The fact that he was nice to 256 00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:13,024 Speaker 2: Caesar Rockshire for today is as follows Purity Rings and 257 00:14:13,064 --> 00:14:15,824 Speaker 2: the Holy Image, Ye making fun of Camp Rock and 258 00:14:15,864 --> 00:14:19,104 Speaker 2: the Disney Channel broadly being a dick to Sophie Turner 259 00:14:19,344 --> 00:14:25,624 Speaker 2: and finally repeatedly blaming women for his behavior. Jesse purity rings. 260 00:14:26,344 --> 00:14:30,304 Speaker 2: The Jonas brother's father was an ordained minister at the 261 00:14:30,344 --> 00:14:35,064 Speaker 2: Assemblies of God church, And it's giving seventh peven. Yes, 262 00:14:35,304 --> 00:14:38,984 Speaker 2: it's giving seventh, Friend of the Council Courtroom. At the generalization, 263 00:14:39,104 --> 00:14:41,464 Speaker 2: you can be religious, it's fine, and there's not always 264 00:14:41,464 --> 00:14:43,784 Speaker 2: seventh heaven. But they do have four kids, continued, yeah 265 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:47,464 Speaker 2: for boy. In the early days of their career, the 266 00:14:47,544 --> 00:14:50,264 Speaker 2: Jonas brothers wore purity rings as a sign of their 267 00:14:50,304 --> 00:14:53,984 Speaker 2: desire to abstain from sex until marriage. In one of 268 00:14:53,984 --> 00:14:57,864 Speaker 2: their songs called Lovebug, there are lyrics about modesty being 269 00:14:57,944 --> 00:15:03,224 Speaker 2: hard to find, is just so hot, right, and it's 270 00:15:03,224 --> 00:15:05,984 Speaker 2: like your all teenage boys, stop calling women hose. Yeah, 271 00:15:06,024 --> 00:15:07,984 Speaker 2: it's too early to call them hose. It's like I 272 00:15:08,024 --> 00:15:10,824 Speaker 2: can't even, you know, walk down the ste straight without 273 00:15:10,824 --> 00:15:12,984 Speaker 2: being just covered in slots, like the slots they be 274 00:15:13,064 --> 00:15:15,584 Speaker 2: throwing themselves at me. And I'm just at my Assembly 275 00:15:15,624 --> 00:15:19,504 Speaker 2: of God and is no offense. But you're twelve, yeap, 276 00:15:19,704 --> 00:15:23,264 Speaker 2: so chill speaking to Friend of the Councel court Room. 277 00:15:23,344 --> 00:15:27,144 Speaker 2: James caught in on carpool karaoke, Joe said, purity rings, 278 00:15:27,744 --> 00:15:28,384 Speaker 2: it's top of that. 279 00:15:29,224 --> 00:15:32,904 Speaker 3: Just explain so anyone who doesn't know what the purity 280 00:15:32,984 --> 00:15:35,064 Speaker 3: rings were for what they stood for. 281 00:15:35,224 --> 00:15:39,664 Speaker 2: Sure, puitter rings were to wait for the right person 282 00:15:40,304 --> 00:15:42,424 Speaker 2: when the time was right. But he joked that he's 283 00:15:42,504 --> 00:15:45,584 Speaker 2: understanding of purity change as he got older. When you're 284 00:15:45,584 --> 00:15:49,904 Speaker 2: about fifteen sixteen, you start dating and you go, wait 285 00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:52,784 Speaker 2: a minute, what did what. 286 00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:55,864 Speaker 3: Did that sound I was going to do? And you 287 00:15:55,904 --> 00:15:56,904 Speaker 3: say it very publicly. 288 00:15:57,144 --> 00:15:59,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true, because why are we talking about 289 00:15:59,224 --> 00:16:00,224 Speaker 2: purity when we're twelve? 290 00:16:00,544 --> 00:16:00,704 Speaker 3: Yeah? 291 00:16:00,744 --> 00:16:03,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we have no hormones, we have no sex drive. Yeah, 292 00:16:03,744 --> 00:16:06,984 Speaker 2: we're a child. Yeah. Apparently they never intended to talk 293 00:16:07,024 --> 00:16:09,544 Speaker 2: about the purity rings. And so we were in an 294 00:16:09,544 --> 00:16:11,264 Speaker 2: interview one day the guy asked about him. 295 00:16:11,264 --> 00:16:12,464 Speaker 4: We were we don't want talk about He's like, well, 296 00:16:12,464 --> 00:16:14,024 Speaker 4: I'm just going to say you're in a cult, and we're. 297 00:16:13,824 --> 00:16:22,704 Speaker 2: Like yeah, say yeah, and we're scared of death. It 298 00:16:22,784 --> 00:16:24,064 Speaker 2: was like one of our first interviews. 299 00:16:24,104 --> 00:16:25,584 Speaker 3: So we're like, fine, we'll talk about him. 300 00:16:26,824 --> 00:16:31,304 Speaker 2: Love that. I'm like, yeah, that's funny. Respect starts some dramas. 301 00:16:31,584 --> 00:16:33,704 Speaker 2: They chose to take them off as they got older. 302 00:16:34,224 --> 00:16:36,624 Speaker 2: Joe said, we decided at one point this is not 303 00:16:36,664 --> 00:16:39,384 Speaker 2: who we are. We don't need to be wearing this anymore. Okay, 304 00:16:39,424 --> 00:16:43,664 Speaker 2: you decided to stick your deal in someone and you 305 00:16:43,744 --> 00:16:48,064 Speaker 2: felt like e lovesh, which is fine, he said. People 306 00:16:48,104 --> 00:16:50,704 Speaker 2: are making fun of it anyway. We can make fun 307 00:16:50,704 --> 00:16:55,824 Speaker 2: of it ourselves. Only we may only we may. We 308 00:16:55,904 --> 00:16:58,584 Speaker 2: know now that they were hooking up with Disney stars 309 00:16:59,224 --> 00:17:03,944 Speaker 2: and definitely did not abstain from sex before marriage. In fact, 310 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:07,504 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, Joe Jonas was doing and ask Me 311 00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:10,024 Speaker 2: anything on Reddit. This comes up a couple of times 312 00:17:10,144 --> 00:17:12,944 Speaker 2: this particularly ask Me Anything. So what happens is they 313 00:17:13,144 --> 00:17:15,464 Speaker 2: were really fun ask me anything. They go on to Reddit. 314 00:17:15,544 --> 00:17:17,704 Speaker 2: It's like verified that it is Joe Jonas. People ask 315 00:17:17,824 --> 00:17:20,904 Speaker 2: questions and he answers. Sometimes these go horribly wrong. I 316 00:17:20,904 --> 00:17:23,104 Speaker 2: believe it did in the case of James Corden and 317 00:17:23,144 --> 00:17:25,304 Speaker 2: everybody was like, why are you so shit? Yeah? Yeah, 318 00:17:25,424 --> 00:17:28,384 Speaker 2: often people do ask that. Yeah. So he was asked 319 00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:31,344 Speaker 2: about losing his virginity and he wrote, I lost my 320 00:17:31,424 --> 00:17:34,424 Speaker 2: virginity to this girl named Ashley. You can probably just 321 00:17:34,464 --> 00:17:36,904 Speaker 2: google it. It's pretty easy to figure out I dated 322 00:17:36,904 --> 00:17:39,144 Speaker 2: a girl named Ashley. So just google it to figure 323 00:17:39,144 --> 00:17:44,504 Speaker 2: out which my generation would go, Oh my god, Ashley Simpson. No, 324 00:17:44,584 --> 00:17:47,704 Speaker 2: it wasn't Ashley Simon. Who was it. He dated actress 325 00:17:47,904 --> 00:17:51,184 Speaker 2: Ashley Green in twenty eleven. She's in Twilight. You'd know 326 00:17:51,264 --> 00:17:55,944 Speaker 2: her face. Hi, Bamma, I'm Alice, you do. Yeah? I 327 00:17:55,944 --> 00:18:00,264 Speaker 2: thought it was Ashley Tisdale. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. And 328 00:18:00,304 --> 00:18:02,824 Speaker 2: it's like, sir, maybe she doesn't want the story of 329 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:06,624 Speaker 2: her virginity on the internet. Did you think about that? 330 00:18:06,744 --> 00:18:11,224 Speaker 2: Because you went rapidly from being quite private and pure. Yeah. Two, 331 00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:15,064 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about my virginity on Reddit. He 332 00:18:15,144 --> 00:18:17,624 Speaker 2: then told some lame story about not being able to 333 00:18:17,624 --> 00:18:20,224 Speaker 2: find a condom and then finding one in his friend's room, 334 00:18:20,704 --> 00:18:23,024 Speaker 2: and it's like this didn't need to be shared publicly. 335 00:18:23,264 --> 00:18:26,184 Speaker 2: You know, it screams, I'm a sixteen year old obsessed 336 00:18:26,184 --> 00:18:29,024 Speaker 2: with sex. Yeah. You know people if like sixteen year 337 00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:31,424 Speaker 2: olds and you're having conversation about nothing, and it's like 338 00:18:32,104 --> 00:18:35,704 Speaker 2: you ever like like had a three way and it's 339 00:18:35,744 --> 00:18:39,664 Speaker 2: like no, like no one's been kissed, and you definitely 340 00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:45,544 Speaker 2: haven't because you were way too enthusiastic about this conversation. Yeah, 341 00:18:45,584 --> 00:18:48,264 Speaker 2: and it's very I couldn't find a condom and it's like, no, 342 00:18:48,464 --> 00:18:51,424 Speaker 2: you've got three in you are Yeah, you are prepared. 343 00:18:51,544 --> 00:18:54,984 Speaker 2: You are prepared. You have like seventeen like tubes of 344 00:18:55,024 --> 00:18:59,144 Speaker 2: lube too much. No one needs that loub too much. 345 00:18:59,904 --> 00:19:04,664 Speaker 2: Ashley Green responded with an Instagram post that said class 346 00:19:04,704 --> 00:19:10,144 Speaker 2: is timeless, and she was clearly like, may stop her crazy, 347 00:19:10,544 --> 00:19:14,104 Speaker 2: stop it and where's your purity ring now? So the 348 00:19:14,104 --> 00:19:21,664 Speaker 2: purity rings hypocritical? Holy image painted and it dated. Jesse 349 00:19:22,024 --> 00:19:24,824 Speaker 2: making fun of Camp Rock and the Disney Channel broadly, 350 00:19:25,384 --> 00:19:30,944 Speaker 2: I've not heard good things. My only impression of Camp Rock, 351 00:19:31,024 --> 00:19:34,384 Speaker 2: which I fully intend to watch these films, yeah, okay, 352 00:19:35,024 --> 00:19:39,664 Speaker 2: but my only impression is short TikTok clips terrible, Joe 353 00:19:39,744 --> 00:19:48,504 Speaker 2: Jonah's dance really that weird, like clapping like Campra, Demi 354 00:19:48,584 --> 00:19:52,704 Speaker 2: Levado terrible acting all the Jonahs brothers. Was Levado speaking 355 00:19:52,704 --> 00:19:56,784 Speaker 2: to extraterrestrials? Yet no I would say she was still 356 00:19:56,784 --> 00:20:00,544 Speaker 2: a child. What song did she sing to the extraterrest reels? 357 00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:03,664 Speaker 2: I have trauma too? Do you like to sing? 358 00:20:03,784 --> 00:20:12,904 Speaker 3: Coleman one and tried to tear me. 359 00:20:14,904 --> 00:20:21,144 Speaker 2: I will be rising from like a scarscraper. That was 360 00:20:21,264 --> 00:20:23,864 Speaker 2: so lovely. I mean, for those who haven't listened to 361 00:20:23,904 --> 00:20:28,704 Speaker 2: our canceled episode. That is the wildest shit we have 362 00:20:28,824 --> 00:20:34,904 Speaker 2: ever uncovered. She would be an absolute laugh, She would 363 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,224 Speaker 2: be a laugh to hang out. She did so, she 364 00:20:37,264 --> 00:20:40,744 Speaker 2: went into a haunted house and sung to yes once 365 00:20:40,784 --> 00:20:44,104 Speaker 2: she sung to ghost. But she's also sung to extraterrestrials. Yeah, 366 00:20:45,104 --> 00:20:48,704 Speaker 2: she says, you shouldn't call them alien. It's defensive. Okay. 367 00:20:48,704 --> 00:20:51,664 Speaker 2: This isn't about Damie Lobido. This is about Joe. Okay. 368 00:20:52,464 --> 00:20:55,744 Speaker 2: So the camp Rock films and the Disney Channel played 369 00:20:55,864 --> 00:20:58,544 Speaker 2: a big role in the Jonas brothers rise to fame, 370 00:20:59,184 --> 00:21:02,104 Speaker 2: So why does Joe keep shitting on them? Both? Was 371 00:21:02,144 --> 00:21:06,464 Speaker 2: camp Rock cringe? Absolutely? All of it. Our business, all 372 00:21:06,544 --> 00:21:12,624 Speaker 2: our business and everything anyone did when they were twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 373 00:21:13,264 --> 00:21:16,864 Speaker 2: potentially twenty Five's green. It's green, all right, but it's 374 00:21:16,904 --> 00:21:18,704 Speaker 2: fun for us to laugh at it. And we've said 375 00:21:18,704 --> 00:21:21,064 Speaker 2: this before. When you start laughing at it and it's 376 00:21:21,144 --> 00:21:26,864 Speaker 2: not as fun, you defend it. Yeah. Joe and Emmi 377 00:21:26,944 --> 00:21:30,304 Speaker 2: Levado also a friend of the Council Courtroom dated around 378 00:21:30,344 --> 00:21:34,304 Speaker 2: the time of camp Rock too, and I think at 379 00:21:34,304 --> 00:21:35,784 Speaker 2: that time they looked at each other and they went, 380 00:21:35,864 --> 00:21:38,944 Speaker 2: we're proud. We're proud of our work together. Camp Rock one, 381 00:21:39,264 --> 00:21:42,704 Speaker 2: You're the Miss and be Sunny the song is said 382 00:21:42,904 --> 00:21:50,624 Speaker 2: of me me t to We're camp Rock two you knew, 383 00:21:55,104 --> 00:21:58,104 Speaker 2: and we're just two artists making go of elvish in 384 00:21:58,144 --> 00:22:00,304 Speaker 2: this world. I love you in camp Rock, you love 385 00:22:00,384 --> 00:22:03,024 Speaker 2: me and camp Rock. But Jesse, it'd only lasted a 386 00:22:03,064 --> 00:22:05,424 Speaker 2: few months because then they realized Camp Rock was shit 387 00:22:06,424 --> 00:22:09,064 Speaker 2: when they read a review. They I think that they 388 00:22:09,104 --> 00:22:11,864 Speaker 2: watched it and then went, your face reminds me of 389 00:22:11,904 --> 00:22:15,824 Speaker 2: the Shames. Okay, I am triggered because of your face 390 00:22:15,944 --> 00:22:20,184 Speaker 2: makes me think of camp Rock. Yeah, AnyWho, That to 391 00:22:20,344 --> 00:22:22,824 Speaker 2: me makes it even worse that Joe makes fun of 392 00:22:22,864 --> 00:22:25,784 Speaker 2: camp Rock because you're making fun of Demi. Okay, well 393 00:22:25,904 --> 00:22:28,864 Speaker 2: just DEMI make fun of Campro. No, not so much. Okay, 394 00:22:29,104 --> 00:22:32,304 Speaker 2: she didn't have a lot to say, yeah, because she 395 00:22:32,344 --> 00:22:35,424 Speaker 2: did go into a rehab straight after, but she has 396 00:22:35,464 --> 00:22:37,224 Speaker 2: not chat on it. I think she's proud of her work. 397 00:22:37,504 --> 00:22:41,624 Speaker 2: In that same Reddit Ask Me Anything, Joe said one 398 00:22:41,664 --> 00:22:44,984 Speaker 2: to ten rating of how embarrassing Camp Rock is to me. Now, 399 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,424 Speaker 2: ten being the most and one being the least. I'm 400 00:22:47,424 --> 00:22:49,784 Speaker 2: going to give it a solid eight. When I see 401 00:22:49,904 --> 00:22:53,024 Speaker 2: old merch from Camp Rock Days or somebody is like, 402 00:22:53,064 --> 00:22:55,424 Speaker 2: oh my god, camp Rock is my jam, I really 403 00:22:55,464 --> 00:22:59,184 Speaker 2: have a hard time believing them. You made the art. 404 00:22:59,624 --> 00:23:02,864 Speaker 2: Let people respond how they seeve it, and don't take 405 00:23:02,904 --> 00:23:05,184 Speaker 2: the art away from those who love. No the art. 406 00:23:05,624 --> 00:23:08,264 Speaker 2: None of your business stands alone. He also said he 407 00:23:08,304 --> 00:23:12,144 Speaker 2: was deeply embarrassed by the Disney show Jonas, saying the 408 00:23:12,184 --> 00:23:15,384 Speaker 2: writing was particularly bad. He said it had weird slapstick 409 00:23:15,464 --> 00:23:18,064 Speaker 2: humor that only a ten year old would laugh at. Yeah, 410 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:20,704 Speaker 2: welcome to Disney. Yeah, maybe that was the audience, mate. 411 00:23:20,824 --> 00:23:23,144 Speaker 2: That's literally it's for tendy the audiences ten year olds. 412 00:23:23,144 --> 00:23:26,584 Speaker 2: Ten year olds need television ten year olds for that hilarious. 413 00:23:26,944 --> 00:23:32,904 Speaker 2: I went and watched an episode of Jonas home watching TV. 414 00:23:34,224 --> 00:23:37,704 Speaker 2: It was so fun, okay, hear me out shows set 415 00:23:37,744 --> 00:23:43,104 Speaker 2: in high school. Yeah, so loved to lockers, backpacks, musty, 416 00:23:43,504 --> 00:23:47,464 Speaker 2: sexual attentim So the vibe was that Nick was like 417 00:23:47,544 --> 00:23:52,824 Speaker 2: girl crazy and he always went too hard with girls. 418 00:23:53,384 --> 00:23:57,664 Speaker 2: But it was a bit girls cannot be trusted, just 419 00:23:57,744 --> 00:24:00,904 Speaker 2: what the Bible told him. Girls can't be okay, Because 420 00:24:01,024 --> 00:24:05,384 Speaker 2: I have heard a quote from the Jonas's mother, who 421 00:24:05,424 --> 00:24:08,064 Speaker 2: is very girls cannot be trusted. It's very my boys 422 00:24:08,144 --> 00:24:10,664 Speaker 2: have sluts throwing themselves at them. It's very Robin thick mother, 423 00:24:11,024 --> 00:24:12,824 Speaker 2: which is like, my boys are just trying to live 424 00:24:12,824 --> 00:24:16,744 Speaker 2: their lives. Yes, and there are twerking asses coming at 425 00:24:16,784 --> 00:24:19,584 Speaker 2: them left, right and center on their faces, on their 426 00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:22,264 Speaker 2: faces in what are they to do? Yeah. So in 427 00:24:22,304 --> 00:24:25,904 Speaker 2: the show, the vibe like Joe and Kevin were kind 428 00:24:25,944 --> 00:24:29,984 Speaker 2: of like chummy, like poor Nick, and I've heard like 429 00:24:30,024 --> 00:24:32,224 Speaker 2: it was very a ten year old American girl to 430 00:24:32,264 --> 00:24:35,784 Speaker 2: be like, there are goofy yeah, goofy, yeah, very goofy. 431 00:24:35,824 --> 00:24:38,984 Speaker 2: So the episode I watched, there was a girl that 432 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,784 Speaker 2: Nick was throwing himself at. He writes her a song 433 00:24:43,384 --> 00:24:46,304 Speaker 2: and then she thinks he wrote her the song to perform, 434 00:24:46,584 --> 00:24:49,584 Speaker 2: not because he liked her. And then they go to 435 00:24:49,624 --> 00:24:54,424 Speaker 2: watch her perform. Joe and Kevin are in disguise, and 436 00:24:54,464 --> 00:24:57,704 Speaker 2: she dedicates the song to her boyfriend who isn't Nick, 437 00:24:58,784 --> 00:25:04,064 Speaker 2: and Nick is betrayed. What's her complication? But honestly, great plot, 438 00:25:04,184 --> 00:25:07,544 Speaker 2: highly watchable. Ten year old love a disguise. They do 439 00:25:08,024 --> 00:25:13,864 Speaker 2: like literally mustage and classes. Now. Nick Jonas said on 440 00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:16,184 Speaker 2: Behalf of the Brothers, it was a big regret that 441 00:25:16,304 --> 00:25:19,024 Speaker 2: Disney show. We shouldn't have done that. It really stunted 442 00:25:19,024 --> 00:25:21,184 Speaker 2: our growth. I give back your money. Then, I feel 443 00:25:21,184 --> 00:25:23,144 Speaker 2: like it was just a bad move. It was just 444 00:25:23,184 --> 00:25:25,704 Speaker 2: not the time. Literally, we couldn't evolve because of it. 445 00:25:26,064 --> 00:25:29,424 Speaker 2: I'd say the one to blame most would be Kevin 446 00:25:29,864 --> 00:25:33,344 Speaker 2: because he was the oldest. Really he was pushing late 447 00:25:33,384 --> 00:25:37,144 Speaker 2: teenage should and he should have said, guys, this is lame, 448 00:25:37,304 --> 00:25:40,504 Speaker 2: this isn't funny, this is really lame. Discussing the show, 449 00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:43,904 Speaker 2: Kevin said it was not on brand for us as 450 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:45,984 Speaker 2: the band that we were becoming and the songs that 451 00:25:46,024 --> 00:25:50,264 Speaker 2: we were writing. Kevin said in the Jonahs Brothers documentary, 452 00:25:50,584 --> 00:25:53,504 Speaker 2: it was almost like two very different identities. I think 453 00:25:53,504 --> 00:25:55,904 Speaker 2: that affected the perception of the band that we were 454 00:25:55,944 --> 00:25:59,104 Speaker 2: a joke. Okay, so how do I put this? You 455 00:25:59,184 --> 00:26:03,944 Speaker 2: are not ACDC or the Beatles. You are the Jonas Brothers. 456 00:26:03,984 --> 00:26:06,584 Speaker 2: If it weren't for that, you still wouldn't be the Beatles. 457 00:26:07,544 --> 00:26:11,024 Speaker 2: The Jonas Brothers are the Jonas Brothers, and they are 458 00:26:11,064 --> 00:26:13,544 Speaker 2: the Jonas Brothers because they made Jonas and Camp Rock 459 00:26:13,584 --> 00:26:16,984 Speaker 2: one and Camp Rock two. You don't get to just 460 00:26:17,024 --> 00:26:20,344 Speaker 2: wake up and be the Beatles and weirdly, they actually 461 00:26:20,384 --> 00:26:24,024 Speaker 2: did release an album initially through like a record label, 462 00:26:24,184 --> 00:26:26,944 Speaker 2: did nothing. It wasn't until like second or third album 463 00:26:27,384 --> 00:26:30,704 Speaker 2: that they got traction. It was because of Disney. No offense, 464 00:26:30,744 --> 00:26:33,744 Speaker 2: But you're not known for your musical merits. Well you weren't. 465 00:26:34,664 --> 00:26:37,424 Speaker 2: You weren't just lean into Disney. It's all a bit 466 00:26:37,424 --> 00:26:40,304 Speaker 2: of fun, it is. But then after making fun of 467 00:26:40,384 --> 00:26:44,544 Speaker 2: camp Rock and Jonas and the Disney Channel, when Joe 468 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:47,144 Speaker 2: was asked in twenty seventeen about the idea of a 469 00:26:47,264 --> 00:26:51,144 Speaker 2: camp Rock three, he said, if it made sense, sure 470 00:26:51,504 --> 00:26:54,304 Speaker 2: for all of us, Demi Nick, it would be funny 471 00:26:54,304 --> 00:26:59,904 Speaker 2: to do a spin on it. Firstly, what about Kevin? Secondly, 472 00:27:00,224 --> 00:27:03,744 Speaker 2: what you mean is if the price was wrong? Yes, 473 00:27:04,384 --> 00:27:07,144 Speaker 2: so you think it's creepy. You know what it reminds 474 00:27:07,184 --> 00:27:10,304 Speaker 2: me of. It's like if the Wiggles turned around and well, 475 00:27:10,424 --> 00:27:13,424 Speaker 2: like potato was cringe potato hot, and it's like you 476 00:27:13,464 --> 00:27:17,504 Speaker 2: are hot potato potato as you Yeah, don't turn your back. Well, 477 00:27:17,544 --> 00:27:22,424 Speaker 2: it's also like potato slaps absolutely and yummy ummy fruit salad. Yeah, 478 00:27:22,464 --> 00:27:25,344 Speaker 2: don't go back and ruin my childhood because you're having 479 00:27:25,384 --> 00:27:30,424 Speaker 2: an identity crisis exactly for a lot of people Jonah's brothers. 480 00:27:30,464 --> 00:27:35,384 Speaker 2: Camp Rock was a magical time. What a school Holidays movie? 481 00:27:35,824 --> 00:27:38,104 Speaker 2: Why are you going back on it? Because you want 482 00:27:38,104 --> 00:27:51,904 Speaker 2: to be something you're not and will never be? Hush 483 00:27:52,024 --> 00:27:54,984 Speaker 2: Jesse being a dick to Sophie Turner, I'd need to 484 00:27:54,984 --> 00:27:56,744 Speaker 2: know more about this because all I have is a 485 00:27:56,784 --> 00:27:59,304 Speaker 2: sense of things, okay, and no facts. I have a lot. 486 00:27:59,824 --> 00:28:03,464 Speaker 2: In September twenty twenty three, Joe Jonas filed for divorce 487 00:28:03,624 --> 00:28:06,064 Speaker 2: from actress Sophie Okay, how long were they together? So 488 00:28:06,064 --> 00:28:09,144 Speaker 2: Sophie and Joe started dating in twenty sixteen, married in 489 00:28:09,144 --> 00:28:12,144 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Lifetime, I know, and then the filing for 490 00:28:12,184 --> 00:28:15,864 Speaker 2: divorce happened September twenty twenty three. Very fandom, they said, 491 00:28:16,064 --> 00:28:19,864 Speaker 2: very happy. Yeah. She claimed Joe didn't tell her he 492 00:28:19,984 --> 00:28:23,384 Speaker 2: was going to file for divorce. She learned from the media. Mate, 493 00:28:23,464 --> 00:28:25,944 Speaker 2: you gotta tell your wife you're filing for divorce. Got 494 00:28:25,984 --> 00:28:27,304 Speaker 2: to you got to give them a heads. 495 00:28:27,184 --> 00:28:29,584 Speaker 3: Up, critical information. 496 00:28:29,304 --> 00:28:31,064 Speaker 2: When you file for divorce. There's like a list of 497 00:28:31,104 --> 00:28:34,344 Speaker 2: things to do. Prior one is tell why. Yeah, so 498 00:28:34,424 --> 00:28:36,424 Speaker 2: I have an app called to do List. Yeah. Anyone 499 00:28:36,464 --> 00:28:39,024 Speaker 2: wants to kind of get away to do you to 500 00:28:39,024 --> 00:28:41,784 Speaker 2: do list. Okay, so if I'm getting divorced, number one, 501 00:28:41,984 --> 00:28:46,664 Speaker 2: have the chat. Number two, tell mom yeah, number three, 502 00:28:48,064 --> 00:28:52,264 Speaker 2: house question mark yeah, number four, confirm with wife confirmed, 503 00:28:52,504 --> 00:28:54,984 Speaker 2: speak to family, and then I would say number five, 504 00:28:55,664 --> 00:28:59,504 Speaker 2: sign papers, number six media. Yeah, there's a few things 505 00:28:59,504 --> 00:29:02,024 Speaker 2: to do before you get to media. The former couple 506 00:29:02,184 --> 00:29:05,104 Speaker 2: apparents to two girls, Willer, who was three at the time, 507 00:29:05,424 --> 00:29:08,944 Speaker 2: and Dfene, who was fifteen months old. And as soon 508 00:29:08,984 --> 00:29:12,624 Speaker 2: as the divorce news broke, it seems the Jonas pr 509 00:29:12,704 --> 00:29:18,184 Speaker 2: machine went into overdrive. Reports began to emerge, portraying Sophie 510 00:29:18,184 --> 00:29:20,984 Speaker 2: as a bad mother and Joe as a doting dad. 511 00:29:21,744 --> 00:29:24,864 Speaker 2: TMZ reported that Joe had been caring for their children 512 00:29:24,984 --> 00:29:28,624 Speaker 2: pretty much all the time in recent months. Then came 513 00:29:28,664 --> 00:29:32,424 Speaker 2: the rumors that Sophie was a party animal, with Page 514 00:29:32,424 --> 00:29:36,384 Speaker 2: six sharing photos of her downing drinks. Everyone knows that 515 00:29:36,424 --> 00:29:39,504 Speaker 2: when you have a baby, you can't have alcohol anymore. 516 00:29:39,704 --> 00:29:41,704 Speaker 2: Ever in your life. That makes your bad mom. You 517 00:29:41,784 --> 00:29:44,984 Speaker 2: must only have tea by a man can have a 518 00:29:45,024 --> 00:29:49,104 Speaker 2: beer in the birthing suite if he was always TMZ 519 00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:52,904 Speaker 2: later claimed that Jonas knew his marriage was over after 520 00:29:52,984 --> 00:29:57,824 Speaker 2: catching his wife on a security camera saying or doing 521 00:29:58,224 --> 00:30:03,104 Speaker 2: and I quote something. Oh my god, what was it? 522 00:30:03,464 --> 00:30:06,904 Speaker 2: I need to know what it was? Okay, okay, saying 523 00:30:07,024 --> 00:30:13,424 Speaker 2: or doing something. It's Macarina, Okay, saying or doing something. 524 00:30:13,904 --> 00:30:18,864 Speaker 2: Eating a potato raw, she jumping on a pogo stick? 525 00:30:19,224 --> 00:30:22,744 Speaker 2: Was Luca and I've done this thing. It actually made 526 00:30:22,744 --> 00:30:24,784 Speaker 2: a big problem for our marriage. But there was a 527 00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:27,864 Speaker 2: dance he learned when he was five, and it's like, 528 00:30:28,584 --> 00:30:32,664 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think how it goes left right, left, 529 00:30:32,784 --> 00:30:35,064 Speaker 2: right left. She left it and it goes like this 530 00:30:35,184 --> 00:30:36,944 Speaker 2: and he does a dance to it with his face. 531 00:30:38,104 --> 00:30:41,104 Speaker 2: That was actually a real hiccup in our marriage because 532 00:30:41,104 --> 00:30:43,584 Speaker 2: it was really really ugly. I think she was doing 533 00:30:43,584 --> 00:30:50,824 Speaker 2: that Bill's dodgy to give away that tiny detail without 534 00:30:50,904 --> 00:30:53,984 Speaker 2: it wasn't a detail. It was the opposite of a detail. 535 00:30:54,104 --> 00:30:58,944 Speaker 2: What was she doing? What was she doing the bounty 536 00:30:59,384 --> 00:31:02,824 Speaker 2: on that security flag? I want to know. So maybe 537 00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:06,224 Speaker 2: she was like doing a soandsor Stark on her own. 538 00:31:06,464 --> 00:31:11,744 Speaker 2: Maybe she was watching Camp Rock on it. You promised, 539 00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:15,144 Speaker 2: you promised you? Well she was, Oh my god, she's 540 00:31:15,184 --> 00:31:18,184 Speaker 2: with a friend and she does an impersonation of Joe 541 00:31:18,264 --> 00:31:21,384 Speaker 2: in Camp Rock doing a dance routine and he says, 542 00:31:21,504 --> 00:31:25,784 Speaker 2: that's me. He says, I do what I want. At 543 00:31:25,784 --> 00:31:29,344 Speaker 2: the same time, The Daily Mail reported that Sophie Turner 544 00:31:29,424 --> 00:31:33,064 Speaker 2: party without a care in the world just days before 545 00:31:33,064 --> 00:31:35,664 Speaker 2: they announced their divorce. In her defense, she didn't know 546 00:31:35,704 --> 00:31:39,904 Speaker 2: what I mean now. The man who managed the bar 547 00:31:40,464 --> 00:31:45,504 Speaker 2: where Turner was partying said she never once spoke about 548 00:31:45,624 --> 00:31:51,144 Speaker 2: her husband or kids, never mentioned anything about getting divorced. Okay, okay, 549 00:31:51,184 --> 00:31:54,224 Speaker 2: we went out recently for dinner. Yeah, you've got a 550 00:31:54,304 --> 00:31:56,544 Speaker 2: twelve week old. Yeah, I have an eight month old. 551 00:31:57,464 --> 00:32:00,664 Speaker 2: And every time the waiter came to the thing, I said, 552 00:32:01,384 --> 00:32:04,384 Speaker 2: I have a baby. She is delightful and she is 553 00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:07,344 Speaker 2: my world. Because everyone knows that you have to make 554 00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:10,304 Speaker 2: it explicit service stuff. I then went to the toilet. 555 00:32:10,424 --> 00:32:12,784 Speaker 2: I announced it on my T shirt. I had a 556 00:32:12,784 --> 00:32:15,784 Speaker 2: picture of Luna's head. I carried around bottle. I actually 557 00:32:15,784 --> 00:32:20,224 Speaker 2: introduced myself. I'm Claire, I'm a mother. I'm a mother. 558 00:32:20,584 --> 00:32:24,984 Speaker 2: This is my phone background. It's my baby doing the WHOA. Okay. 559 00:32:26,064 --> 00:32:29,264 Speaker 2: Then that bartender mad I didn't talk about my kiddle, 560 00:32:29,824 --> 00:32:33,104 Speaker 2: that would be weird, noted that it seemed like Turner 561 00:32:33,664 --> 00:32:37,184 Speaker 2: was missing her single days. I think people would have said, 562 00:32:37,264 --> 00:32:39,544 Speaker 2: it looked like we were missing our single days, mostly 563 00:32:39,544 --> 00:32:43,024 Speaker 2: because of koby as amounts of Margarita's. How can you 564 00:32:43,104 --> 00:32:46,304 Speaker 2: know that, sir? I imagine that. She went up, she said, 565 00:32:46,384 --> 00:32:49,904 Speaker 2: Hi bartender, I'm world famous actress Sophie Turner. You may 566 00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:52,544 Speaker 2: know me from Game of Thrones. I don't care about 567 00:32:52,544 --> 00:32:55,704 Speaker 2: my children or my husband, and I miss being single. Now, 568 00:32:55,824 --> 00:32:58,024 Speaker 2: may I please have one time's last of zavvy b 569 00:32:59,024 --> 00:33:02,824 Speaker 2: thanks what she said? Coincidentally, photos were leaked at the 570 00:33:02,864 --> 00:33:06,264 Speaker 2: same time of just innocent Joe Jonas having lunch with 571 00:33:06,304 --> 00:33:09,384 Speaker 2: his kids. Just some headlines from the time. It's so 572 00:33:09,384 --> 00:33:12,224 Speaker 2: annoying because I know that Jonas came in and went, Sophie, 573 00:33:12,784 --> 00:33:14,824 Speaker 2: can I take the kids? And she's like, why you 574 00:33:14,864 --> 00:33:17,064 Speaker 2: never hang out with the kids, And he's like, oh, 575 00:33:17,184 --> 00:33:19,784 Speaker 2: I just thought I should get to know them, and 576 00:33:19,824 --> 00:33:22,304 Speaker 2: she said, okay, fine, I have wanted you to get 577 00:33:22,304 --> 00:33:23,504 Speaker 2: to know them, and then he took them out of 578 00:33:23,504 --> 00:33:26,584 Speaker 2: the house. Yep, and it was a patbore. The annoying 579 00:33:26,584 --> 00:33:29,104 Speaker 2: thing is the Jonahs brothers had been on tour, like 580 00:33:29,184 --> 00:33:31,224 Speaker 2: he had been working so much since his kids were 581 00:33:31,264 --> 00:33:34,624 Speaker 2: born and she hadn't. And now that the kids were 582 00:33:34,624 --> 00:33:38,064 Speaker 2: slightly older, she was working and he was looking after 583 00:33:38,104 --> 00:33:41,624 Speaker 2: the kids one time, and she's a party animal. Yeah, Jesse, 584 00:33:42,304 --> 00:33:46,064 Speaker 2: can you please read this headline Joe Jonas goes on 585 00:33:46,104 --> 00:33:50,144 Speaker 2: a stroll with his kids amid custody battle with Sophie Turner. 586 00:33:50,424 --> 00:33:54,104 Speaker 2: I mean, thank god that man has had to wheel 587 00:33:54,224 --> 00:34:00,584 Speaker 2: his own children through the park. Where is Sophie? Where 588 00:34:00,584 --> 00:34:04,704 Speaker 2: at that poor Sophie's mia? Jesse? Can you read this 589 00:34:04,784 --> 00:34:08,744 Speaker 2: headline and then just the little subtitle down the bottom 590 00:34:09,184 --> 00:34:11,624 Speaker 2: it says, so this is why Joe Jonas's kids have 591 00:34:11,704 --> 00:34:14,504 Speaker 2: been living with him on tour amid Sophie Turner split 592 00:34:15,104 --> 00:34:17,704 Speaker 2: exclamation mark, question mark unclear of question or statement. Ye, 593 00:34:18,144 --> 00:34:20,944 Speaker 2: Joe Jonas is in full dad mode, even with a busy, 594 00:34:21,024 --> 00:34:24,584 Speaker 2: cheering schedule and amid an emotional divorce. But why is 595 00:34:24,624 --> 00:34:26,784 Speaker 2: he the main caretaker of his two daughters with a 596 00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:29,704 Speaker 2: stranged wife Sophie Turner right now? And what could this 597 00:34:29,824 --> 00:34:32,704 Speaker 2: mean for their future co parenting schedule if she is 598 00:34:32,744 --> 00:34:37,104 Speaker 2: strange or is she worksh Can you read the next 599 00:34:37,184 --> 00:34:41,984 Speaker 2: Daily Mail headline? Okay? Pictured Joe Jonas ditch's wedding ring 600 00:34:42,224 --> 00:34:44,464 Speaker 2: as he's seen for the first time with daughters after 601 00:34:44,504 --> 00:34:47,784 Speaker 2: divorce filing from Sophie Turner. Amid claims he caught actress 602 00:34:47,864 --> 00:34:56,424 Speaker 2: on ring security camera doing or saying something that's mummed 603 00:34:56,464 --> 00:35:01,344 Speaker 2: better comments terrible headline that was in Commas the last straw. 604 00:35:01,864 --> 00:35:06,104 Speaker 2: That article then has several photos of Joe Jonas looking 605 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,984 Speaker 2: towards the paparazzi with his children, with his holding his 606 00:35:10,064 --> 00:35:13,944 Speaker 2: children out to the paparazzi. There's also a nanny there, 607 00:35:14,384 --> 00:35:17,264 Speaker 2: so there's four of them, Jess. Can you read this 608 00:35:17,264 --> 00:35:20,664 Speaker 2: little caption and describe the photo that you see? Okay? 609 00:35:20,904 --> 00:35:23,304 Speaker 2: The caption says, I love it when they describe the 610 00:35:23,304 --> 00:35:27,744 Speaker 2: photo because sometimes I can't see the foursome dined al fresco. Oh, 611 00:35:27,784 --> 00:35:30,464 Speaker 2: I needed to know that. Then Joe carried the older 612 00:35:30,584 --> 00:35:34,344 Speaker 2: child while the unidentified woman carried the younger one before 613 00:35:34,384 --> 00:35:38,344 Speaker 2: heading out to the camp Rock Star. I like the 614 00:35:38,424 --> 00:35:41,184 Speaker 2: dig looked every bit the doting father as he kept 615 00:35:41,184 --> 00:35:43,704 Speaker 2: a watchful eye on his two children. So he's actually 616 00:35:44,024 --> 00:35:48,304 Speaker 2: watching two children and he's holding a child with his 617 00:35:48,384 --> 00:35:52,224 Speaker 2: two hands, Jess, As the Daily Mail does, it's several 618 00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:55,944 Speaker 2: of essentially the same photo but with different captions. Can 619 00:35:55,984 --> 00:35:57,984 Speaker 2: you just read because it's hard to describe the same 620 00:35:57,984 --> 00:36:00,904 Speaker 2: photo fourteen different ways. Yeah, okay, So there were ones 621 00:36:00,944 --> 00:36:04,464 Speaker 2: describing his outfit. I left them out. Can you read those? 622 00:36:04,824 --> 00:36:09,624 Speaker 2: Cute Joe happily carried his eldest He happily, not resentfully. 623 00:36:10,624 --> 00:36:14,224 Speaker 2: He carried his own child. Oh my god, congrats. Yeah, 624 00:36:14,264 --> 00:36:17,464 Speaker 2: out of Harry Sophie's chip. Cute Joe high fived with 625 00:36:17,504 --> 00:36:21,064 Speaker 2: his eldest child. Wow to the kid. Out of high 626 00:36:21,104 --> 00:36:26,224 Speaker 2: five motor skills. Relaxed. The group kept up conversation during 627 00:36:26,224 --> 00:36:33,824 Speaker 2: the morning meal. They talked Sorry Joe Johannas beaks to 628 00:36:34,464 --> 00:36:41,504 Speaker 2: his children. Absolutely remarkable. Next one vibes. Joe's brunette locks 629 00:36:41,544 --> 00:36:44,944 Speaker 2: were tucked under a truck driver hat for the casual occasion. 630 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:47,664 Speaker 2: That was just one that I put in just to 631 00:36:47,824 --> 00:36:52,184 Speaker 2: communicate the vibes. Last one, Sweet, I like that. They 632 00:36:52,464 --> 00:36:55,464 Speaker 2: described to us how we must feel about it. Cute 633 00:36:55,704 --> 00:36:59,904 Speaker 2: sweet Sweet Joe pulled funny faces to make the younger 634 00:36:59,984 --> 00:37:07,384 Speaker 2: daughter laugh. He made his own daughter giggle. Blooded dad, 635 00:37:07,584 --> 00:37:12,904 Speaker 2: Not only is he babysitting those in giving mom and 636 00:37:12,984 --> 00:37:18,864 Speaker 2: giving mom a break in public with the camera there. Yeah, yeah, 637 00:37:19,984 --> 00:37:24,064 Speaker 2: not only is he babysitting these two random children that 638 00:37:24,104 --> 00:37:29,544 Speaker 2: he doesn't even know he's pulling funny faces, he's holding one, 639 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:32,344 Speaker 2: he's looking at them. I mean, give the dad father 640 00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:37,144 Speaker 2: of the year. Incredible scenes. Can you imagine Jesse smiled 641 00:37:37,184 --> 00:37:42,984 Speaker 2: at her daughter. Jesse smiled, Jesse looked at her phone. 642 00:37:43,264 --> 00:37:48,224 Speaker 2: The word would have been shame, Ye, shame. Jesse holds 643 00:37:48,264 --> 00:37:51,464 Speaker 2: baby too tight? Jesse. Do you think Joe was trying 644 00:37:51,464 --> 00:37:53,224 Speaker 2: to make it look like he was the perfect dad 645 00:37:53,264 --> 00:37:55,984 Speaker 2: and Sophie was a terrible mother? I do, yeah, But 646 00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:57,904 Speaker 2: what this reveals is it in order to look like 647 00:37:57,984 --> 00:38:00,504 Speaker 2: the perfect dad, he needed paid help with him, yes, 648 00:38:01,304 --> 00:38:05,304 Speaker 2: and a photographer and to do bare minimum. Sophie ended 649 00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:09,024 Speaker 2: up suing Joe for the wrongful retention of their two 650 00:38:09,104 --> 00:38:11,464 Speaker 2: kids because he wasn't allowed allowing them to return to 651 00:38:11,504 --> 00:38:14,144 Speaker 2: England with her. You just know she was like, can 652 00:38:14,144 --> 00:38:15,624 Speaker 2: I have the kids back? And he's like, we have 653 00:38:15,704 --> 00:38:20,744 Speaker 2: a photo shoot tomorrow. I have to look them in 654 00:38:20,784 --> 00:38:24,544 Speaker 2: the eye. What's the oldest one's name? What do they 655 00:38:24,704 --> 00:38:27,224 Speaker 2: like doing? If I were to pull a face? Yeah? 656 00:38:27,824 --> 00:38:30,464 Speaker 2: Do they still like Pieka boot? No? This one's three. 657 00:38:30,624 --> 00:38:33,784 Speaker 2: Just in the meantime, Sophie Turner was photographed on a 658 00:38:33,824 --> 00:38:37,184 Speaker 2: girl's night out in New York City with her ex 659 00:38:37,304 --> 00:38:40,304 Speaker 2: husband's ex girlfriend, Taylor Swift, and it was the feminist 660 00:38:40,384 --> 00:38:46,824 Speaker 2: moment of the decade to Taylor Swift dated Joe Jonas 661 00:38:46,864 --> 00:38:49,304 Speaker 2: for a few months. In two thousand and eight, she 662 00:38:49,384 --> 00:38:54,264 Speaker 2: told the Ellen DeGeneres Show that Jonas dumped her over 663 00:38:54,304 --> 00:38:57,264 Speaker 2: a twenty five second phone call. Oh so he's a 664 00:38:57,304 --> 00:39:00,024 Speaker 2: dirty dog. He's a dirty dog. And there's a lyric 665 00:39:00,544 --> 00:39:04,064 Speaker 2: in a Taylor Swift song about now I buy my 666 00:39:04,664 --> 00:39:09,424 Speaker 2: ex boyfriend's baby's presence. That's definitely about Joe Jonas because 667 00:39:09,504 --> 00:39:11,304 Speaker 2: I have been deep and he is the only one 668 00:39:11,304 --> 00:39:15,864 Speaker 2: of her ex's to have kids as bebbies my exed 669 00:39:16,024 --> 00:39:20,504 Speaker 2: grind for the boys who broke my heart. Now some 670 00:39:21,224 --> 00:39:25,744 Speaker 2: babies presence. Wow, she could have just called Taylor Swift 671 00:39:25,744 --> 00:39:28,504 Speaker 2: and said what to my baby's line? Yeah, you're a woman, 672 00:39:29,424 --> 00:39:32,544 Speaker 2: you have a womb. Turner has alleged that the marriage 673 00:39:32,544 --> 00:39:37,344 Speaker 2: breakdown happened very suddenly after an argument on August fifteenth, 674 00:39:37,464 --> 00:39:43,384 Speaker 2: which was Jonas's birthday. That hads more information about the 675 00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:48,464 Speaker 2: security camera thing. Maybe she was planning a surprise birthday 676 00:39:48,504 --> 00:39:50,944 Speaker 2: present and he saw it on the camera and was like, well, 677 00:39:50,944 --> 00:39:53,984 Speaker 2: now I know the surprise. Maybe she brought in a 678 00:39:54,024 --> 00:39:57,664 Speaker 2: cake and it was Camp Rock themed. He said, I 679 00:39:57,704 --> 00:40:00,184 Speaker 2: feel like you're mocking me. Well, just because you're serious 680 00:40:00,584 --> 00:40:04,024 Speaker 2: with your HBO show Winter is coming while I was 681 00:40:04,024 --> 00:40:07,344 Speaker 2: on Camp Rock. I just need to know what happened 682 00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:10,184 Speaker 2: with the security camera, council listeners. If we can get 683 00:40:10,544 --> 00:40:13,864 Speaker 2: your theory, I need theories about what it was. Repeatedly 684 00:40:13,904 --> 00:40:17,904 Speaker 2: blaming women for his behavior. Jesse. There's a subreddit called 685 00:40:17,904 --> 00:40:21,224 Speaker 2: pop culture Chat, and on there is a viral thread 686 00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,904 Speaker 2: called Joe Jonas blaming women for his own behavior. And 687 00:40:24,944 --> 00:40:26,424 Speaker 2: it's a bunch of heavy. I think he got this 688 00:40:26,464 --> 00:40:28,664 Speaker 2: from his mother. Yeah, because he's like, I'm a perfect 689 00:40:28,664 --> 00:40:34,824 Speaker 2: little boy. Yeah, Jess. Can you read that headline? Joe 690 00:40:34,904 --> 00:40:39,064 Speaker 2: Jonas says, Miley Cyrus and Demi Levado peer pressured him 691 00:40:39,264 --> 00:40:44,504 Speaker 2: to try a pot. That Miley, Miley, she's a temptress. 692 00:40:44,584 --> 00:40:49,104 Speaker 2: She's a temptress. Just bad influence. I can't believe it. 693 00:40:49,264 --> 00:40:53,744 Speaker 2: Is an American teenager with every resource at his disposal, 694 00:40:53,824 --> 00:40:58,064 Speaker 2: that he smoked pot and women came into his life. 695 00:40:58,104 --> 00:40:59,864 Speaker 2: He was just she was just a church boy with 696 00:40:59,904 --> 00:41:02,304 Speaker 2: his purity ringing. You know what the girls did, They 697 00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:04,344 Speaker 2: took the ring, the ring and they put their vagina 698 00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:08,824 Speaker 2: around his chins. They did, and he said no. And 699 00:41:08,864 --> 00:41:12,984 Speaker 2: then while they were doing that, they put marriage or 700 00:41:13,144 --> 00:41:17,504 Speaker 2: wana in his mouth, in his lung, and then they 701 00:41:17,544 --> 00:41:21,864 Speaker 2: put meth in his moves. That poor man, Jess. Could 702 00:41:21,864 --> 00:41:25,904 Speaker 2: you read the next headline? Joe Jonas ditches purity ring 703 00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:29,744 Speaker 2: to hook up with Ashley Green. There's issues with this intact. 704 00:41:29,944 --> 00:41:32,704 Speaker 2: Why is there a question mark? Yeah, and it really 705 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:36,304 Speaker 2: feels like it's Ashley Green's fault that he ditched the 706 00:41:36,304 --> 00:41:39,184 Speaker 2: purity ring. Well, again, he was just sitting there trying 707 00:41:39,184 --> 00:41:44,544 Speaker 2: to be pure, trying to keep his promise, and you've 708 00:41:44,584 --> 00:41:48,384 Speaker 2: got her backing up on him. Yeah, with a wet 709 00:41:48,504 --> 00:41:51,504 Speaker 2: vagina going. I think that we do some grinding. Yeah, 710 00:41:51,544 --> 00:41:53,544 Speaker 2: and he says, where's my purity ring? And she says, 711 00:41:53,664 --> 00:41:58,984 Speaker 2: up my badge. I'll come on now, try and find it. Honestly, 712 00:41:59,384 --> 00:42:02,624 Speaker 2: slight space slut, Jesse. Can you read the next headline? 713 00:42:03,584 --> 00:42:06,864 Speaker 2: Joe Jonas was just trying to tell his story when 714 00:42:06,864 --> 00:42:09,864 Speaker 2: he revealed he lost his virginity to Ashley Green, So 715 00:42:10,544 --> 00:42:13,144 Speaker 2: I think leave him alone. He was just telling you 716 00:42:13,144 --> 00:42:16,464 Speaker 2: a story. Yeah, it involved her. Yeah, he named her 717 00:42:16,504 --> 00:42:19,384 Speaker 2: explicitly and said google it didn't realize this was an 718 00:42:19,464 --> 00:42:25,024 Speaker 2: ad for Google dot Com. Sophie Turner's partying reportedly factored 719 00:42:25,064 --> 00:42:28,944 Speaker 2: into Joe jonas divorce factored or was this sole factor? 720 00:42:29,504 --> 00:42:32,224 Speaker 2: Because he's just trying to be a good dad. He's 721 00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:36,304 Speaker 2: just walking around high fiving everyone in his life. And 722 00:42:36,344 --> 00:42:39,104 Speaker 2: she's out there at the bar going, fuck my kids, 723 00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:44,064 Speaker 2: fuck my husband. Yeah, I'm doing the macarena high bartender. 724 00:42:44,464 --> 00:42:50,544 Speaker 2: I hate being a mother. Can women do anything right? Sophie? 725 00:42:50,624 --> 00:42:53,864 Speaker 2: Could you read the next one? Unhappy? Joe Jonas tried 726 00:42:53,904 --> 00:42:58,344 Speaker 2: to salvage Sophie Turner marriage filed for divorce as a 727 00:42:58,424 --> 00:43:02,264 Speaker 2: last resort. Okay, just some advice. Marriage advice. Filing for 728 00:43:02,344 --> 00:43:05,944 Speaker 2: divorce not a good last resort. Not a good last resort. 729 00:43:06,344 --> 00:43:09,224 Speaker 2: Did he try to salvage it before or after he 730 00:43:09,344 --> 00:43:12,424 Speaker 2: crept the divorce on her? Like he surprised her with it. 731 00:43:12,544 --> 00:43:15,864 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm trying to save this marriage. So here's 732 00:43:15,864 --> 00:43:19,264 Speaker 2: a divorce in the media, and she's like what, And 733 00:43:19,304 --> 00:43:23,704 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm trying to sell it. Joe Jonas allegedly 734 00:43:23,744 --> 00:43:30,464 Speaker 2: caught Sophie Turner in compromised. How many times you can 735 00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:34,904 Speaker 2: throw this same bace of evidence in in compromising ring 736 00:43:35,064 --> 00:43:39,224 Speaker 2: camera footage before filing for divorce. Report. I'm not saying 737 00:43:40,144 --> 00:43:42,544 Speaker 2: the divorce was solely Sophie Turner's fault because of what 738 00:43:42,584 --> 00:43:45,384 Speaker 2: she did on the security camera, but the divorce was 739 00:43:45,424 --> 00:43:49,944 Speaker 2: solely her fault because she did something on camera. Okay, 740 00:43:50,024 --> 00:43:53,544 Speaker 2: So then there's a bunch of memes. So there's a 741 00:43:53,624 --> 00:43:57,624 Speaker 2: mean trend where people just made up stuff that Joe 742 00:43:57,744 --> 00:44:00,664 Speaker 2: Jonas was annoyed about. Jesse, can you read some of 743 00:44:00,704 --> 00:44:03,544 Speaker 2: these fake headlines that really get across the sentiment of 744 00:44:03,624 --> 00:44:08,304 Speaker 2: Joe Jonas. Sophie Turner never refilled the water picture in 745 00:44:08,344 --> 00:44:12,144 Speaker 2: the fridge and Joe did always find it empty, a 746 00:44:12,264 --> 00:44:17,064 Speaker 2: source tells TMZ. Yeah, Joe reveals that Sophie never got 747 00:44:17,104 --> 00:44:20,104 Speaker 2: him the cool cereals from the top shelf at the 748 00:44:20,144 --> 00:44:24,424 Speaker 2: grocery store. Sophie told Joe she wouldn't love him anymore 749 00:44:24,544 --> 00:44:31,184 Speaker 2: if he was a worm, reports Poor Joe. Joe reveals 750 00:44:31,184 --> 00:44:34,264 Speaker 2: that Sophie would put him on the counter and wouldn't 751 00:44:34,304 --> 00:44:40,864 Speaker 2: let him down and behaved himself. TMZ reports this is 752 00:44:40,904 --> 00:44:44,104 Speaker 2: my favorite. Joe was tired of Sophie Turner holding the 753 00:44:44,104 --> 00:44:46,624 Speaker 2: TV remote up in her hand out of breach, which 754 00:44:46,664 --> 00:44:51,144 Speaker 2: prevented him from changing the channel. TMZ reports. So basically, 755 00:44:51,784 --> 00:44:55,344 Speaker 2: this poor man has been tormented by a tall woman 756 00:44:56,064 --> 00:45:00,504 Speaker 2: who's just making things very difficult. And everything in the 757 00:45:00,544 --> 00:45:03,224 Speaker 2: marriage is her fault, nothing is his. He is just 758 00:45:03,264 --> 00:45:21,024 Speaker 2: a doting father and she is a hope. Jesse my 759 00:45:21,144 --> 00:45:28,624 Speaker 2: charge being a weasel. He's a weasley little weasel, and 760 00:45:28,664 --> 00:45:32,544 Speaker 2: he looks like one and he acts like one. I 761 00:45:32,584 --> 00:45:36,784 Speaker 2: think he's a weasel because he's a lingee little boy. 762 00:45:37,504 --> 00:45:40,704 Speaker 2: I don't like camp rockets. Cringe. Why do you make 763 00:45:40,744 --> 00:45:45,824 Speaker 2: it my purity rings? Weren't my fault? Weren't they because 764 00:45:45,864 --> 00:45:49,944 Speaker 2: you put it on and replace it on your finger. 765 00:45:50,504 --> 00:45:53,904 Speaker 2: Women are manipulating me. I'm just here being a good 766 00:45:53,904 --> 00:45:59,944 Speaker 2: little Donus brother, and the women keep doing awful things, 767 00:45:59,944 --> 00:46:03,584 Speaker 2: such as forcing me to be an active father. Yes, 768 00:46:04,544 --> 00:46:09,304 Speaker 2: it's traumatic. So he's a weasel, and I guess my 769 00:46:09,424 --> 00:46:12,744 Speaker 2: thing is, if you're going to be a professional victim, 770 00:46:13,024 --> 00:46:18,224 Speaker 2: be better at it. Okay, So my sentences tell us 771 00:46:18,704 --> 00:46:25,824 Speaker 2: what Sophie did on the security camera in detail. I 772 00:46:25,904 --> 00:46:28,464 Speaker 2: reckon he's not telling us because it's not that bad, 773 00:46:29,104 --> 00:46:33,064 Speaker 2: as if it was cheating, as if he wouldn't that 774 00:46:33,144 --> 00:46:36,104 Speaker 2: weasley little weasel, as if he wouldn't have told us all. 775 00:46:36,744 --> 00:46:39,744 Speaker 2: But it was something weird, you know how people talk 776 00:46:39,784 --> 00:46:41,704 Speaker 2: about the ick, like I wonder if she nearly tripped 777 00:46:42,384 --> 00:46:44,144 Speaker 2: or something, and it just made him feel weird and 778 00:46:44,304 --> 00:46:49,824 Speaker 2: didn't like she's wearing nothing but sucks. He's like I 779 00:46:49,864 --> 00:46:55,944 Speaker 2: saw something I can't und say it I can't, or 780 00:46:56,024 --> 00:46:58,624 Speaker 2: like she slipped her hair back and had it in 781 00:46:58,664 --> 00:47:02,584 Speaker 2: a low ponytail that made her look like a founding 782 00:47:02,664 --> 00:47:08,744 Speaker 2: father and it made me feel weird. And now the 783 00:47:08,824 --> 00:47:13,904 Speaker 2: only course is to leave with the children. They don't 784 00:47:13,984 --> 00:47:21,664 Speaker 2: see that. Okay, I need to know what is on 785 00:47:21,744 --> 00:47:23,344 Speaker 2: that footage. I need the footage. You can't tell me. 786 00:47:23,344 --> 00:47:25,264 Speaker 2: He doesn't have the footage. Yeah, but no, we do 787 00:47:25,424 --> 00:47:27,584 Speaker 2: need that releaseed. I agree. Now he does have a 788 00:47:27,624 --> 00:47:33,464 Speaker 2: reduced sentence on account of him enjoying my dog. Oh shit, yeah, 789 00:47:33,544 --> 00:47:36,144 Speaker 2: his compliment to Caesar, Yeah, it means I've actually gone 790 00:47:36,184 --> 00:47:40,144 Speaker 2: quite soft, because it's like if you're found guilty of 791 00:47:40,184 --> 00:47:45,744 Speaker 2: a crime, but you spent years volunteering and they're like 792 00:47:45,824 --> 00:47:51,544 Speaker 2: a good character, good character. He's complimenting of Caesar. Made 793 00:47:51,544 --> 00:47:55,104 Speaker 2: Caesar's day, made Ory's day, made my day. Well, that 794 00:47:55,224 --> 00:48:00,944 Speaker 2: actually factors into my charge. My charge is broadly blaming women. 795 00:48:02,264 --> 00:48:05,104 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a coincidence that Joe 796 00:48:05,224 --> 00:48:09,144 Speaker 2: Jonas complimented your male dog, Caesar while he was in 797 00:48:09,184 --> 00:48:13,104 Speaker 2: the presence of your male husband, Rory. I don't think 798 00:48:13,104 --> 00:48:15,944 Speaker 2: it would have happened if you were there. I think 799 00:48:15,984 --> 00:48:20,184 Speaker 2: if you were walking Caesar, he'd have gone, why you're 800 00:48:20,184 --> 00:48:23,024 Speaker 2: not with your baby. He'd have found a way to blame. 801 00:48:23,064 --> 00:48:25,064 Speaker 2: What would have happened is he would have walked in 802 00:48:25,104 --> 00:48:28,424 Speaker 2: front of a truck, and he'd have gone, you scared me, 803 00:48:29,264 --> 00:48:31,984 Speaker 2: and now I've walked in front of a truck. He 804 00:48:31,984 --> 00:48:34,224 Speaker 2: would have found a way to blame you for his 805 00:48:34,264 --> 00:48:37,184 Speaker 2: own stupid movie. Well, I will say when I saw him, 806 00:48:37,224 --> 00:48:39,144 Speaker 2: I didn't didn't stop and say hello, did he walking? 807 00:48:39,184 --> 00:48:41,424 Speaker 2: I didn't compliment your baby, No, because out I had 808 00:48:41,504 --> 00:48:44,104 Speaker 2: Matilda strapped to me. And what he did I didn't 809 00:48:44,104 --> 00:48:46,704 Speaker 2: share this earlier, but they tripped over. No, you got 810 00:48:46,744 --> 00:48:50,264 Speaker 2: holy water and he flicked it on me and said, 811 00:48:50,824 --> 00:48:54,224 Speaker 2: the power of Christ compels you. And he said you're 812 00:48:54,224 --> 00:48:59,544 Speaker 2: a whore. And I was like, Joe, Jojo, it's three pm, Joe, 813 00:48:59,864 --> 00:49:02,104 Speaker 2: this is my baby, get it together. And then he 814 00:49:02,104 --> 00:49:05,464 Speaker 2: said where's that lovely dog? He's a boy, was a boy. 815 00:49:05,624 --> 00:49:07,704 Speaker 2: It was a boy and he did isn't interesting? He said, 816 00:49:07,744 --> 00:49:12,864 Speaker 2: old man. That's all I'm saying. My sentence is, obviously 817 00:49:12,904 --> 00:49:15,944 Speaker 2: I think he needs to make camp Rock three. That 818 00:49:15,984 --> 00:49:18,184 Speaker 2: needs to be made. I think I would honestly do 819 00:49:18,264 --> 00:49:20,944 Speaker 2: really well. It's just a little Netflix drop. Just is 820 00:49:20,984 --> 00:49:24,144 Speaker 2: a Netflix drop sorted around the summer holidays. But there's 821 00:49:24,184 --> 00:49:29,184 Speaker 2: an additional clause in this is that I want him 822 00:49:29,184 --> 00:49:32,024 Speaker 2: to make camp Rock three with the soul custody of 823 00:49:32,064 --> 00:49:36,424 Speaker 2: his two children. Try and make your film with kids around. 824 00:49:36,544 --> 00:49:40,344 Speaker 2: Actually that is really clever because Sophie Turner was filming 825 00:49:40,664 --> 00:49:44,824 Speaker 2: Joan when she was in the UK, and that's why 826 00:49:44,864 --> 00:49:47,464 Speaker 2: he had the kids. Yeah, this is a classic, like 827 00:49:47,904 --> 00:49:53,464 Speaker 2: man has kids for two mes. Tom's feet goes to media. 828 00:49:53,944 --> 00:49:57,344 Speaker 2: This is really hard. This is juggling at all? Are you? 829 00:49:57,984 --> 00:50:01,784 Speaker 2: Are you juggling at all? Every time it's my partner's 830 00:50:01,864 --> 00:50:04,264 Speaker 2: job to put the baby to sleep. Really hard to 831 00:50:04,264 --> 00:50:06,664 Speaker 2: get down today. Every time my partner has the baby, 832 00:50:06,704 --> 00:50:10,504 Speaker 2: he's like, we need help, Oh do we? Because I 833 00:50:10,544 --> 00:50:14,984 Speaker 2: do it quite independently on my own. I honestly I 834 00:50:15,104 --> 00:50:18,624 Speaker 2: do like meetings, work with Lena around all the time. 835 00:50:18,664 --> 00:50:21,664 Speaker 2: Partner had to do it today? The fuck that man 836 00:50:21,784 --> 00:50:24,224 Speaker 2: made for some reason. She was in her carrier on 837 00:50:24,264 --> 00:50:25,744 Speaker 2: the call and I was like, I mean I would 838 00:50:25,744 --> 00:50:28,544 Speaker 2: put her down because obviously she's gonna scream and like 839 00:50:28,584 --> 00:50:30,544 Speaker 2: talk to everybody has to perform, but he has to 840 00:50:30,584 --> 00:50:34,304 Speaker 2: perform it. Yeah, because he's like, E'll call the police. 841 00:50:34,424 --> 00:50:37,784 Speaker 2: Father looking after his own child. I'm being abused by 842 00:50:37,824 --> 00:50:41,344 Speaker 2: my wife. Yeah, who wants me to spend time with 843 00:50:41,744 --> 00:50:46,704 Speaker 2: my children? Like I have some semblance of responsibility for them. 844 00:50:47,664 --> 00:50:48,984 Speaker 2: That's what I want. I want him to try and 845 00:50:49,024 --> 00:50:51,344 Speaker 2: do that. Well, he's got children running around, he is Noah, 846 00:50:51,344 --> 00:50:54,584 Speaker 2: they you know what he do? Demi? Can you watch them? No, 847 00:50:54,904 --> 00:50:58,184 Speaker 2: Demi's in the movie too, Okay, Demi can't look after 848 00:50:58,224 --> 00:51:02,864 Speaker 2: the kids. She's got a starring roles with her terressrials. 849 00:51:02,984 --> 00:51:08,424 Speaker 2: You know who could look after them. Franky happy to 850 00:51:08,464 --> 00:51:13,504 Speaker 2: be on set, doesn't have a role. He is free today. 851 00:51:13,984 --> 00:51:18,104 Speaker 2: He is free today. Yeah, nothing on. Thank you so 852 00:51:18,224 --> 00:51:21,264 Speaker 2: much for joining us on this episode of Canceled. The 853 00:51:21,304 --> 00:51:24,624 Speaker 2: executive producer of Canceled is Telicipus Ads with audio editing 854 00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:40,664 Speaker 2: by Tom Lyon. We will be back next week. Bye bye,