1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,064 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on from Mom and Mia. 5 00:00:26,264 --> 00:00:28,824 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. 6 00:00:28,984 --> 00:00:31,384 Speaker 3: I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodneck and. 7 00:00:31,464 --> 00:00:35,344 Speaker 2: On the show today. Look, we've gotten how many messages. 8 00:00:34,984 --> 00:00:37,224 Speaker 3: Do you record? So many messages? I have at least 9 00:00:37,224 --> 00:00:40,424 Speaker 3: one hundred fifteen, but that's still pretty good. 10 00:00:40,464 --> 00:00:43,584 Speaker 2: We've gotten so many messages asking us to do a 11 00:00:43,664 --> 00:00:47,784 Speaker 2: brutally honest review of the new Netflix show Nobody wants this. 12 00:00:48,184 --> 00:00:50,224 Speaker 2: All the episodes are out now, so there will be 13 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:52,944 Speaker 2: a few spoilers, so make sure you watch before you listen. 14 00:00:53,544 --> 00:00:55,504 Speaker 2: But if you don't know, we do these really honest 15 00:00:55,544 --> 00:00:57,984 Speaker 2: reviews where we like break down a massive piece of 16 00:00:58,024 --> 00:01:00,664 Speaker 2: like pop culture. It's usually a TV show or a movie, 17 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:04,544 Speaker 2: and we are as the title says, brutally honest. So 18 00:01:04,624 --> 00:01:06,864 Speaker 2: we will be doing that, but don't worry, we will 19 00:01:06,904 --> 00:01:08,704 Speaker 2: still be doing Weekend Watch. 20 00:01:08,824 --> 00:01:11,104 Speaker 3: Yes, there was so much hype about this show coming up. 21 00:01:11,104 --> 00:01:12,704 Speaker 1: Well, I think most people kind of knew, but I 22 00:01:12,704 --> 00:01:15,464 Speaker 1: guess like for us, when we first got the announcement, 23 00:01:15,464 --> 00:01:18,104 Speaker 1: that this was filmings, this was ages ago, and I 24 00:01:18,144 --> 00:01:21,424 Speaker 1: saw these behind the scenes photos come through of Kristen 25 00:01:21,464 --> 00:01:23,464 Speaker 1: Bell and Adam Brody, who play the two stars of 26 00:01:23,504 --> 00:01:25,744 Speaker 1: the show, on the set together, and I saw that 27 00:01:25,784 --> 00:01:28,544 Speaker 1: it was based off Aaron Foster's life. I just thought 28 00:01:28,544 --> 00:01:31,664 Speaker 1: this was going to be such a huge, crazy hit. 29 00:01:31,824 --> 00:01:33,464 Speaker 2: But Aaron Foster is again. 30 00:01:33,584 --> 00:01:36,824 Speaker 1: Okay, So Aaron Foster is, in our owner words, a 31 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:39,864 Speaker 1: NEPO baby of Hollywood, but she and her sister Sarah 32 00:01:40,184 --> 00:01:42,864 Speaker 1: have become very famous for various projects over the years. 33 00:01:43,064 --> 00:01:46,824 Speaker 1: So they are the daughters of David Foster, who if 34 00:01:46,944 --> 00:01:49,864 Speaker 1: we know, yes, well he's a very famous music producer, 35 00:01:50,064 --> 00:01:51,864 Speaker 1: but I think most people would know him for his 36 00:01:51,984 --> 00:01:55,464 Speaker 1: many infamous marriages. So he was obviously married to the 37 00:01:55,864 --> 00:01:58,464 Speaker 1: mother of Sarah and Aaron, but he's also been married 38 00:01:58,464 --> 00:02:01,864 Speaker 1: to Linda Thompson, who was married to Caitlyn Jenner for 39 00:02:01,944 --> 00:02:04,424 Speaker 1: a while and is the mother of Brody Jenner as 40 00:02:04,464 --> 00:02:06,024 Speaker 1: in The Hills star Brody Jenner. 41 00:02:06,224 --> 00:02:09,504 Speaker 3: So David Foster has been his stepfather. They're all day 42 00:02:09,544 --> 00:02:10,264 Speaker 3: til Kardashian. 43 00:02:10,544 --> 00:02:12,944 Speaker 1: Everyone intersex with the katash Shean's in some way. But 44 00:02:13,024 --> 00:02:15,504 Speaker 1: then he was also married to Yolanda he had did, 45 00:02:15,504 --> 00:02:17,864 Speaker 1: who of course is the mother of a Gigi and 46 00:02:18,024 --> 00:02:20,984 Speaker 1: Bella had Did, so he was their stepfather as well. 47 00:02:21,304 --> 00:02:24,544 Speaker 1: And now he is married to Katherine McPhee and he's 48 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:25,584 Speaker 1: about thirty to. 49 00:02:25,624 --> 00:02:26,944 Speaker 3: Forty years older than her, I think. 50 00:02:27,104 --> 00:02:29,224 Speaker 1: So he loves big, he loves a marriage, he loves 51 00:02:29,224 --> 00:02:32,064 Speaker 1: getting married, just a hopeless romantic. Is the Jayla of 52 00:02:32,104 --> 00:02:35,344 Speaker 1: the Older White Men music set. And it was a 53 00:02:35,384 --> 00:02:38,144 Speaker 1: bit controversial when he and Katherine McFee got married because 54 00:02:38,344 --> 00:02:40,584 Speaker 1: he had been her mentor on Austraian Idol and everyone 55 00:02:40,624 --> 00:02:43,224 Speaker 1: saw them as like a father daughter relationship. 56 00:02:42,744 --> 00:02:44,024 Speaker 3: Because of the huge age gap. 57 00:02:44,224 --> 00:02:46,224 Speaker 1: But they're happily married now they have a kid, and 58 00:02:46,344 --> 00:02:49,384 Speaker 1: Katherine McFee has quite a funny relationship with Aaron and 59 00:02:49,424 --> 00:02:52,624 Speaker 1: Sarah Foster, like online because they're all the same age 60 00:02:52,904 --> 00:02:55,624 Speaker 1: and they call her mom wicked stepsis. Start when Aaron 61 00:02:55,664 --> 00:02:59,264 Speaker 1: Foster was getting married, Catherine would like post photos of 62 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:01,984 Speaker 1: herself in wedding dresses and be like, I'm worrying this 63 00:03:02,024 --> 00:03:03,504 Speaker 1: to your wedding. It's like it's silly, but just like 64 00:03:03,544 --> 00:03:05,984 Speaker 1: quite funny. So Erin and Sarah Foster, they were both 65 00:03:06,024 --> 00:03:09,344 Speaker 1: actresses for a while. The most interesting part of Aaron 66 00:03:09,384 --> 00:03:12,624 Speaker 1: Foster's life before we get into her marriage, that has 67 00:03:12,664 --> 00:03:15,704 Speaker 1: inspired this whole show, is that she was an actress 68 00:03:15,744 --> 00:03:18,144 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands and she did a lot 69 00:03:18,144 --> 00:03:21,944 Speaker 1: of supporting roles on TV shows. Very notably, she was 70 00:03:21,984 --> 00:03:24,824 Speaker 1: an episode of Gilmore Girls, which obviously Adam. 71 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:28,344 Speaker 3: Brodie was on. He played Dave Rogalski. You're a cross. 72 00:03:28,624 --> 00:03:31,544 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very salty about that because then he left 73 00:03:31,624 --> 00:03:34,224 Speaker 2: and the line ever. 74 00:03:34,624 --> 00:03:37,344 Speaker 1: H okay, well that's a conversation for a different day. 75 00:03:37,544 --> 00:03:40,904 Speaker 1: So she's the quote unquote skanky girl that was her title, 76 00:03:41,144 --> 00:03:44,304 Speaker 1: who is making out with Zach and then she says 77 00:03:44,304 --> 00:03:46,424 Speaker 1: to Lane, sorry, I didn't know you had feelings for him, 78 00:03:46,464 --> 00:03:50,224 Speaker 1: And that's when Lane realizes that she does her feelings 79 00:03:50,304 --> 00:03:52,544 Speaker 1: for Zack in Gilmore Girls. 80 00:03:52,624 --> 00:03:55,424 Speaker 3: So that's Aaron Foster. To hear erin, Yeah, so that's 81 00:03:55,424 --> 00:03:55,944 Speaker 3: Aaron Foster. 82 00:03:56,024 --> 00:03:59,624 Speaker 1: But I think Aaron Foster's most important role in her 83 00:03:59,784 --> 00:04:02,624 Speaker 1: entire acting career was the fact that she played Heather 84 00:04:02,944 --> 00:04:03,584 Speaker 1: on the OC. 85 00:04:04,304 --> 00:04:08,544 Speaker 2: So she just following Adam Brodie still is stilly is 86 00:04:08,544 --> 00:04:10,144 Speaker 2: following her around. Look, she's put in the work. She's 87 00:04:10,144 --> 00:04:11,984 Speaker 2: put twenty years worth of work to get him on 88 00:04:12,024 --> 00:04:13,984 Speaker 2: this show. So she was late and Misa, I'll be like, 89 00:04:13,984 --> 00:04:14,384 Speaker 2: what's going on? 90 00:04:15,504 --> 00:04:17,744 Speaker 1: So she played Heather on the OC. I needed to 91 00:04:17,784 --> 00:04:20,944 Speaker 1: really focus on these details. And she was in the 92 00:04:21,024 --> 00:04:23,624 Speaker 1: car that killed Marissa Cooper. 93 00:04:24,024 --> 00:04:24,904 Speaker 2: Wait on the OC. 94 00:04:25,144 --> 00:04:25,864 Speaker 3: Yes, on the OC. 95 00:04:26,264 --> 00:04:28,224 Speaker 1: What do you mean like the passenger seat? Yes, because 96 00:04:28,264 --> 00:04:30,664 Speaker 1: Volceek was driving the car. Her character Heather was in 97 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:32,344 Speaker 1: the car when they smashed into her and Ryan there 98 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:34,384 Speaker 1: was a hole. Like, so she was in the car 99 00:04:34,424 --> 00:04:37,464 Speaker 1: that killed Marissa Cooper and now she has made a 100 00:04:37,464 --> 00:04:38,064 Speaker 1: show starring I. 101 00:04:38,104 --> 00:04:38,864 Speaker 3: Had broke apart. 102 00:04:38,904 --> 00:04:40,344 Speaker 2: Then she realized. 103 00:04:40,184 --> 00:04:42,584 Speaker 1: Exactly, and she kept that a secret from Adam Brody 104 00:04:42,664 --> 00:04:45,024 Speaker 1: during the whole filming of Nobody Wants This because she's like, 105 00:04:45,184 --> 00:04:47,144 Speaker 1: that's quite embarrassing that I wanted to know. 106 00:04:47,424 --> 00:04:47,904 Speaker 3: He didn't know. 107 00:04:47,984 --> 00:04:50,064 Speaker 1: But then a journalists fan out he didn't know, and 108 00:04:50,104 --> 00:04:51,904 Speaker 1: she was hiding it and told him in an interview 109 00:04:51,904 --> 00:04:54,704 Speaker 1: to get a reaction, and he's like, oh, actually I 110 00:04:54,744 --> 00:04:56,144 Speaker 1: have a memory of that, but I did think it 111 00:04:56,224 --> 00:04:59,664 Speaker 1: was Sarah, so he thought Sarah was on the show. Anyway, 112 00:04:59,664 --> 00:05:00,624 Speaker 1: It's a twisted web. 113 00:05:02,744 --> 00:05:05,864 Speaker 2: So that was Aaron's crazy acting life with Adam Brody 114 00:05:05,984 --> 00:05:07,984 Speaker 2: as like her fellow like leader. 115 00:05:08,144 --> 00:05:10,864 Speaker 3: I want to say third collaboration. The third collabor just 116 00:05:10,904 --> 00:05:11,624 Speaker 3: one he's aware of. 117 00:05:11,824 --> 00:05:14,824 Speaker 2: So, but I've heard that the main character in the show, 118 00:05:14,864 --> 00:05:18,544 Speaker 2: played by Kristen Bell, Joanne, is actually mimicked after Aaron's 119 00:05:18,664 --> 00:05:20,544 Speaker 2: personal So is she a podcaster? 120 00:05:21,064 --> 00:05:21,264 Speaker 3: Yeah? 121 00:05:21,304 --> 00:05:24,024 Speaker 1: So she and her sister have a podcast called I 122 00:05:24,064 --> 00:05:26,264 Speaker 1: think it's the world's first podcast, is what it's called 123 00:05:26,304 --> 00:05:27,224 Speaker 1: because it came out late. 124 00:05:27,264 --> 00:05:28,904 Speaker 2: That's the Are they as good as they have? 125 00:05:30,184 --> 00:05:30,704 Speaker 3: They have a. 126 00:05:30,744 --> 00:05:33,584 Speaker 1: Better maybe like more intimate clib stories than we do. 127 00:05:34,064 --> 00:05:34,824 Speaker 1: They're better than us. 128 00:05:34,864 --> 00:05:37,504 Speaker 2: That's because I'm ne both which our best. 129 00:05:37,824 --> 00:05:40,744 Speaker 1: And they have a very successful clothing line together. They've 130 00:05:40,784 --> 00:05:43,664 Speaker 1: made TV shows before. They did a mockumentary about trying 131 00:05:43,704 --> 00:05:45,224 Speaker 1: to be famous, which is like a really funny show 132 00:05:45,224 --> 00:05:47,504 Speaker 1: if anyone hasn't watched it. But they had a deal 133 00:05:47,824 --> 00:05:50,224 Speaker 1: to create a show because they've both written on shows before, 134 00:05:50,704 --> 00:05:52,424 Speaker 1: and they do a lot of different investing, like they 135 00:05:52,424 --> 00:05:54,424 Speaker 1: were the creative heads of Bumble. Like there's there's a 136 00:05:54,424 --> 00:05:57,584 Speaker 1: whole kind of background to their careers. They were pitching 137 00:05:57,624 --> 00:05:59,704 Speaker 1: a bunch of shows and at the time, Yes, so, Aaron, 138 00:05:59,744 --> 00:06:02,864 Speaker 1: when she was thirty five met her now husband and 139 00:06:02,904 --> 00:06:06,704 Speaker 1: he was Jewish, and so she converted to Judaism to 140 00:06:06,904 --> 00:06:08,624 Speaker 1: so they could marry and they now have a little 141 00:06:08,664 --> 00:06:11,184 Speaker 1: girl called Noah who's like Billy year old. Again, the 142 00:06:11,184 --> 00:06:14,424 Speaker 1: information not about these people, and was he a rabbi, No, 143 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:15,144 Speaker 1: he's not a rabbit. 144 00:06:15,664 --> 00:06:17,464 Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff pushed up the drama a 145 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:19,064 Speaker 2: little bit, yay, because they wanted more tension. 146 00:06:19,064 --> 00:06:21,504 Speaker 1: The show, they've said, very loosely based on a real story. 147 00:06:21,504 --> 00:06:23,344 Speaker 1: So what happened is they were with their producing partner 148 00:06:23,344 --> 00:06:25,144 Speaker 1: and they were talking about different ideas, like in an 149 00:06:25,144 --> 00:06:27,944 Speaker 1: elevator going to another meeting, and she was talking about 150 00:06:27,944 --> 00:06:32,384 Speaker 1: doing her conversion to Judaism and their producing partner said, like, eron, 151 00:06:32,424 --> 00:06:34,704 Speaker 1: this is so interesting, we should make a documentary about it, 152 00:06:35,064 --> 00:06:36,904 Speaker 1: and she said, oh, I don't really never want to 153 00:06:36,944 --> 00:06:38,504 Speaker 1: do that. And then they were talking about the fact 154 00:06:38,544 --> 00:06:41,624 Speaker 1: that maybe it's a drama comedy and their producing partner said, 155 00:06:41,664 --> 00:06:44,304 Speaker 1: you should call it Shixa, which was the original title 156 00:06:44,344 --> 00:06:45,824 Speaker 1: of the show, and that's why they say the word 157 00:06:45,864 --> 00:06:47,024 Speaker 1: Shixa all the way through it. 158 00:06:48,264 --> 00:06:50,384 Speaker 3: Okay, that would have been a great title for the show. 159 00:06:50,544 --> 00:06:51,064 Speaker 3: I agree. 160 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:52,184 Speaker 1: I mean it took me a while to kind of 161 00:06:52,224 --> 00:06:54,464 Speaker 1: get around my head around. Nobody wants this, but Shixa 162 00:06:54,664 --> 00:06:57,504 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna butcher the meaning it basically means like 163 00:06:57,624 --> 00:07:00,504 Speaker 1: now like a blonde, white, non Jewish woman who will 164 00:07:00,544 --> 00:07:02,824 Speaker 1: like steal a Jewish man away from his family in 165 00:07:02,864 --> 00:07:05,584 Speaker 1: front of specific But they did a focus group after 166 00:07:05,584 --> 00:07:08,264 Speaker 1: it had been filmed and so many people didn't know 167 00:07:08,264 --> 00:07:09,944 Speaker 1: what Shixa was, so they got rid of it, which 168 00:07:10,384 --> 00:07:12,384 Speaker 1: and Brodie was quite upset about. But they've made their 169 00:07:12,384 --> 00:07:14,984 Speaker 1: peace with it. So it's only loosely based on Aaron 170 00:07:15,024 --> 00:07:17,624 Speaker 1: Foster's life. And also what's interesting is she sold the 171 00:07:17,664 --> 00:07:20,304 Speaker 1: show and hadn't told her husband about it, and then 172 00:07:20,304 --> 00:07:22,344 Speaker 1: she was getting emails being like where are the pages, 173 00:07:22,344 --> 00:07:23,184 Speaker 1: where are the ideas? 174 00:07:23,264 --> 00:07:23,384 Speaker 2: Like? 175 00:07:23,424 --> 00:07:24,864 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I have to tell him now 176 00:07:24,904 --> 00:07:26,384 Speaker 1: that I've sold a show in our life. But he 177 00:07:26,464 --> 00:07:28,984 Speaker 1: was like okay with it, and they changed it so much, 178 00:07:29,064 --> 00:07:32,104 Speaker 1: like changed it to a rabbi. Everyone thinks that Justine 179 00:07:32,144 --> 00:07:34,864 Speaker 1: Loup's character who plays Morgan, is based on Sarah, but 180 00:07:34,864 --> 00:07:35,224 Speaker 1: it's not. 181 00:07:35,544 --> 00:07:37,024 Speaker 2: Oh, because they're both sisters. 182 00:07:37,144 --> 00:07:39,584 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and Sarah worked on the show as well, 183 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:41,264 Speaker 1: but Justine's like very different to her. 184 00:07:41,344 --> 00:07:42,424 Speaker 3: The one thing that is. 185 00:07:42,384 --> 00:07:43,944 Speaker 2: I love I think she's probably my favor. 186 00:07:44,024 --> 00:07:44,624 Speaker 3: Oh oh my god. 187 00:07:44,704 --> 00:07:46,264 Speaker 1: Yes, we will get to her because there's a whole 188 00:07:46,264 --> 00:07:48,944 Speaker 1: backstory there. The only thing I thought was quite interesting 189 00:07:48,984 --> 00:07:51,624 Speaker 1: listening to them talk about what's real is that their mom, 190 00:07:51,984 --> 00:07:54,024 Speaker 1: who they're very close with. But you know that scene 191 00:07:54,064 --> 00:07:56,544 Speaker 1: in the show where she's like I saw my doctor 192 00:07:56,624 --> 00:07:58,504 Speaker 1: and I've got terrible news and like, oh my god, mom, 193 00:07:58,824 --> 00:08:00,584 Speaker 1: you've got cancer and she goes, oh, I just can't 194 00:08:00,584 --> 00:08:03,184 Speaker 1: pronounce the letter. See, that's a real thing their mom 195 00:08:03,264 --> 00:08:05,944 Speaker 1: said to them, where yeah, she'll say she'll go and 196 00:08:05,984 --> 00:08:07,504 Speaker 1: see be like girls like to tell you something and 197 00:08:07,544 --> 00:08:09,224 Speaker 1: they'll say, oh my god, mom wan and she'll be like, oh, 198 00:08:09,304 --> 00:08:09,704 Speaker 1: I just I. 199 00:08:09,664 --> 00:08:10,184 Speaker 3: Lost the letters. 200 00:08:10,184 --> 00:08:12,144 Speaker 1: See all this, Or like Aaron was saying that she 201 00:08:12,744 --> 00:08:15,144 Speaker 1: had a pinch nerve from breastfeeding because she was like 202 00:08:15,544 --> 00:08:17,384 Speaker 1: leading funny all the time and she was telling her 203 00:08:17,424 --> 00:08:19,624 Speaker 1: mom and her mom is like, it's not a pinch nerve, 204 00:08:19,864 --> 00:08:21,384 Speaker 1: and like put into a negatures. This is where you 205 00:08:21,424 --> 00:08:23,864 Speaker 1: hold fear, and you've got fear about the show coming out, 206 00:08:23,864 --> 00:08:26,024 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, Mom, I think I'm actually physically hurt. 207 00:08:26,104 --> 00:08:27,024 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. 208 00:08:27,064 --> 00:08:29,624 Speaker 1: So a lot of similarities there, but apart from that. Yeah, 209 00:08:29,664 --> 00:08:32,024 Speaker 1: they made up the like how they met, so that's 210 00:08:32,024 --> 00:08:32,944 Speaker 1: all fictionalized. 211 00:08:33,064 --> 00:08:37,144 Speaker 3: The rabbi part is fictionalized. Also, Aaron Foster's in laws. 212 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:39,144 Speaker 1: Weren't awful to her at all or didn't like put 213 00:08:39,184 --> 00:08:41,704 Speaker 1: her through all of that terror that they do in 214 00:08:41,744 --> 00:08:43,304 Speaker 1: the show. But as she said, you've got to up 215 00:08:43,304 --> 00:08:44,504 Speaker 1: the drama, You've gotta have steaks. 216 00:08:44,944 --> 00:08:48,224 Speaker 2: So why do you think is like the reason exactly 217 00:08:48,264 --> 00:08:49,784 Speaker 2: why this has done so well? 218 00:08:50,104 --> 00:08:51,904 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is the nostalgia of 219 00:08:51,944 --> 00:08:55,024 Speaker 1: just having these two iconic characters together, because you have 220 00:08:55,144 --> 00:08:58,104 Speaker 1: Kristen Bell, who I mean, I became obsessed with her 221 00:08:58,224 --> 00:09:00,184 Speaker 1: in Ronic a Mars and I've been obsessed with her 222 00:09:00,224 --> 00:09:00,624 Speaker 1: ever since. 223 00:09:00,664 --> 00:09:02,504 Speaker 2: And you said they're kind of like the same generation, 224 00:09:02,664 --> 00:09:04,664 Speaker 2: Like I think ye're both aiming at a certain type 225 00:09:04,704 --> 00:09:05,224 Speaker 2: of generation. 226 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:07,784 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this is obviously for the elder millennials, 227 00:09:07,784 --> 00:09:09,984 Speaker 1: but anyone can watch it. And obviously we've seen them 228 00:09:10,224 --> 00:09:11,904 Speaker 1: in both in things past, but with him being on 229 00:09:11,944 --> 00:09:14,704 Speaker 1: the OC and her being on Roddy Kamaras, I think 230 00:09:14,744 --> 00:09:17,704 Speaker 1: that there was like this bringing these two fandoms together 231 00:09:17,744 --> 00:09:19,344 Speaker 1: and they were really aware of it because they both 232 00:09:19,384 --> 00:09:21,984 Speaker 1: really lent into that during the press tour. Kristen Bell 233 00:09:22,024 --> 00:09:24,664 Speaker 1: has always spoken very highly of Rodne Kamas and was 234 00:09:24,704 --> 00:09:26,344 Speaker 1: instrumental in getting the movie made. 235 00:09:26,224 --> 00:09:27,224 Speaker 3: And the reboot made. 236 00:09:27,384 --> 00:09:30,104 Speaker 1: Adam Brodie's had a much more difficult time with The 237 00:09:30,144 --> 00:09:31,944 Speaker 1: OC over the years in terms of not wanting to 238 00:09:31,944 --> 00:09:34,184 Speaker 1: talk about it, but he's to his credit, he has 239 00:09:34,264 --> 00:09:36,464 Speaker 1: leaned and hard on this press tour and he's like, 240 00:09:36,544 --> 00:09:38,704 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about the OC, I'm happy too. 241 00:09:39,024 --> 00:09:41,304 Speaker 3: I appreciate that you guys still love it, and. 242 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,864 Speaker 1: But I also think even without that, it's still just 243 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:46,944 Speaker 1: the rom com element, the based on the true story 244 00:09:46,984 --> 00:09:47,504 Speaker 1: and just how good. 245 00:09:47,744 --> 00:09:49,944 Speaker 2: Like me, I hadn't watched Veroni Kamas or The OC, 246 00:09:50,104 --> 00:09:51,064 Speaker 2: and I was obsessed with that. 247 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:53,824 Speaker 3: Absolutely kills me. You, Emily, you at least have to 248 00:09:53,864 --> 00:09:55,944 Speaker 3: watch the OC. It holds up. Can I tell you 249 00:09:56,024 --> 00:09:59,064 Speaker 3: it holds up? You will love it? Yes, I can't 250 00:09:59,104 --> 00:10:00,144 Speaker 3: imagine you watching. 251 00:10:00,504 --> 00:10:04,824 Speaker 1: Nobody wants this without having the importance of Seth Cold 252 00:10:04,864 --> 00:10:05,304 Speaker 1: in your head. 253 00:10:05,344 --> 00:10:07,264 Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I can't. 254 00:10:07,544 --> 00:10:11,184 Speaker 2: Even Shan was a rabbi, no, oh my god, but 255 00:10:11,224 --> 00:10:13,584 Speaker 2: he was infamously a Jewish, Like being Jewish is a 256 00:10:13,584 --> 00:10:16,184 Speaker 2: big part of his storyline. I only know him from 257 00:10:16,424 --> 00:10:19,264 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, Okay, but I just like two seconds, two 258 00:10:19,304 --> 00:10:20,504 Speaker 2: seconds he was even Godmore Girls. 259 00:10:20,504 --> 00:10:24,904 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I got home, you really do. 260 00:10:25,064 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 1: I don't know how you really took in this show 261 00:10:26,744 --> 00:10:28,024 Speaker 1: without that background knowledge. 262 00:10:28,064 --> 00:10:29,144 Speaker 3: But that's fine. 263 00:10:29,424 --> 00:10:32,584 Speaker 2: So everyone's talking about christ and Bell and Adam Brody, 264 00:10:32,864 --> 00:10:35,104 Speaker 2: but they were the standouts for me. 265 00:10:35,304 --> 00:10:36,624 Speaker 3: Oh who were the standouts? 266 00:10:36,864 --> 00:10:38,304 Speaker 2: Morgan and Sasha. 267 00:10:38,584 --> 00:10:39,864 Speaker 3: Yes, they were incredible. 268 00:10:40,104 --> 00:10:41,624 Speaker 2: Timothy Simons. Have you watched Veep? 269 00:10:42,024 --> 00:10:42,864 Speaker 3: Yes, he is. 270 00:10:43,384 --> 00:10:46,224 Speaker 2: So brilliant in that, but obviously quite an icky character. 271 00:10:46,304 --> 00:10:46,464 Speaker 1: Yeah. 272 00:10:46,504 --> 00:10:49,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think he plays this role that I 273 00:10:49,984 --> 00:10:54,144 Speaker 2: literally never have seen before ever in TV or movies. 274 00:10:54,464 --> 00:10:58,384 Speaker 2: It's like the married brother that could cheat on his 275 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:02,704 Speaker 2: wife but never does, And it's like this weird area 276 00:11:02,784 --> 00:11:04,904 Speaker 2: that he left me and where I was just waiting 277 00:11:04,944 --> 00:11:06,464 Speaker 2: for it to happen and it never did. 278 00:11:06,504 --> 00:11:07,544 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's sort of set up. 279 00:11:07,744 --> 00:11:10,024 Speaker 1: In any other show or movie he would be the 280 00:11:10,024 --> 00:11:12,184 Speaker 1: bad guy in a way, and they sort of do 281 00:11:12,304 --> 00:11:13,944 Speaker 1: set him up like that. But I think that's the thing. 282 00:11:14,024 --> 00:11:16,584 Speaker 1: Everyone in the show is much more nuanced than you 283 00:11:16,744 --> 00:11:18,584 Speaker 1: initially think, Like you think, oh, that's going to be 284 00:11:18,784 --> 00:11:20,744 Speaker 1: the bad person or the good person or this person's 285 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:22,824 Speaker 1: going to think this, and then they're all quite layered. 286 00:11:23,264 --> 00:11:25,944 Speaker 1: And I think especially with Morgan because I know you're 287 00:11:25,984 --> 00:11:30,264 Speaker 1: interested in their relationship with Justine Loop. He was in Succession, yes, 288 00:11:30,304 --> 00:11:33,504 Speaker 1: in Succession, and the marvelous Missus Maisel, and so she's 289 00:11:33,504 --> 00:11:36,864 Speaker 1: no one for those really prestige roles. And also interestingly, 290 00:11:37,024 --> 00:11:39,224 Speaker 1: Aaron Foster was saying they were seeing a lot of 291 00:11:39,224 --> 00:11:42,824 Speaker 1: different actresses for this role, so other roles they had 292 00:11:42,904 --> 00:11:45,424 Speaker 1: that once Kristen Bell signed on, she became an executive producer. 293 00:11:45,424 --> 00:11:47,304 Speaker 1: That's like, yep, she's in it. Kristin Bell said, I 294 00:11:47,304 --> 00:11:48,744 Speaker 1: want Adam Brody. They got him. 295 00:11:49,184 --> 00:11:51,224 Speaker 3: Jackie Tone, who plays Est. 296 00:11:51,464 --> 00:11:53,664 Speaker 1: Is one of Kristin Bell's very best friends of twenty 297 00:11:53,664 --> 00:11:56,824 Speaker 1: five years from Veronicamer's days. She's like a little cameo, 298 00:11:56,904 --> 00:11:59,304 Speaker 1: but they've been best friends ever since. This was the 299 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:01,904 Speaker 1: Morgan roles one they were casting for. And so all 300 00:12:01,944 --> 00:12:04,984 Speaker 1: these actresses, some really famous, some not, but a lot 301 00:12:05,024 --> 00:12:07,144 Speaker 1: of them were being really difficult. Sarah and Aaron was 302 00:12:07,144 --> 00:12:09,344 Speaker 1: saying that they wouldn't audition, they wouldn't read the pages 303 00:12:09,824 --> 00:12:12,144 Speaker 1: and just came to them. And she's got like quite 304 00:12:12,144 --> 00:12:14,384 Speaker 1: an impressive resume, came to them and said, I just 305 00:12:14,384 --> 00:12:16,264 Speaker 1: want this role so much. I'll do anything. You want 306 00:12:16,264 --> 00:12:18,704 Speaker 1: me to audition ten times, I'll audition ten times. You 307 00:12:18,744 --> 00:12:20,544 Speaker 1: want me to put myself on tape, you want me 308 00:12:20,584 --> 00:12:22,704 Speaker 1: to do this, anything you want And they were like, yeah, 309 00:12:22,824 --> 00:12:24,824 Speaker 1: you can have it because you seem great. 310 00:12:24,664 --> 00:12:26,664 Speaker 3: Put in the world. Yeah, Color Girl Boss. 311 00:12:26,744 --> 00:12:29,664 Speaker 1: Which is funny because Sarah Foster has a teenage daughter 312 00:12:29,664 --> 00:12:32,104 Speaker 1: called Valentina, and they said they're going to cast her 313 00:12:32,144 --> 00:12:33,704 Speaker 1: in the show I think is the role of Miriam. 314 00:12:34,024 --> 00:12:35,904 Speaker 1: And they said to her, they're real street talk because 315 00:12:35,904 --> 00:12:37,744 Speaker 1: they said to her like, look, you're an nepo baby, 316 00:12:37,784 --> 00:12:38,504 Speaker 1: so you can have it. 317 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:39,424 Speaker 3: You can have the role. 318 00:12:39,624 --> 00:12:40,784 Speaker 1: All you have to do is that you have to 319 00:12:40,784 --> 00:12:43,504 Speaker 1: physically come in the room and audition, because that's just 320 00:12:43,504 --> 00:12:45,824 Speaker 1: the rule for everyone. And she just didn't turn up, 321 00:12:45,864 --> 00:12:47,784 Speaker 1: so they gave the role to someone else. And afterwards 322 00:12:47,824 --> 00:12:50,104 Speaker 1: she was like, hey, I're good you didn't give me 323 00:12:50,184 --> 00:12:51,504 Speaker 1: that was meant to be my role and they're like, 324 00:12:51,704 --> 00:12:54,584 Speaker 1: all you had to do was show up and basically 325 00:12:54,624 --> 00:12:56,344 Speaker 1: do nothing else and you couldn't even do that, so 326 00:12:56,384 --> 00:12:57,184 Speaker 1: you don't having it. 327 00:12:57,104 --> 00:13:00,584 Speaker 2: Not deserve She was also five months pregnant doing the. 328 00:13:00,744 --> 00:13:02,544 Speaker 1: She was pregnant at the beginning and didn't tell anyone 329 00:13:02,584 --> 00:13:05,144 Speaker 1: and then obviously got progressively more pregnant than they shot. 330 00:13:05,264 --> 00:13:06,864 Speaker 1: So I think they covered it quite well because you 331 00:13:06,864 --> 00:13:09,384 Speaker 1: can see in the end she's in very loose, very 332 00:13:09,424 --> 00:13:12,784 Speaker 1: flowy clothes and so her like very pregnant something that 333 00:13:12,784 --> 00:13:14,304 Speaker 1: she's showing photos you can't see. 334 00:13:14,344 --> 00:13:18,664 Speaker 2: She plays that role of like she's Joanne's sister, but 335 00:13:18,984 --> 00:13:22,464 Speaker 2: I guess the single best friend. She plays it so well, 336 00:13:22,704 --> 00:13:26,184 Speaker 2: where in certain scenes when Joanne's talking about like her 337 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:29,544 Speaker 2: new boyfriend and how much she loves him, her face, 338 00:13:29,864 --> 00:13:32,784 Speaker 2: every single woman knows exactly what's happening in her brain 339 00:13:32,944 --> 00:13:35,304 Speaker 2: when she's like thinking and like listening to these stories 340 00:13:35,344 --> 00:13:37,984 Speaker 2: and thinking about it. And she plays that well, which 341 00:13:38,024 --> 00:13:40,904 Speaker 2: also didn't surprise me. And I'm glad that she didn't 342 00:13:40,904 --> 00:13:43,984 Speaker 2: come across as a villain when she leant into the 343 00:13:44,064 --> 00:13:48,384 Speaker 2: relationship with Noah's brother, even knowing that he is married 344 00:13:48,424 --> 00:13:50,184 Speaker 2: and stuff like saying that I had a sex dream 345 00:13:50,224 --> 00:13:53,424 Speaker 2: about him, like we're really close. Yeah, And I'm glad 346 00:13:53,424 --> 00:13:56,704 Speaker 2: that that didn't take away from like who she was 347 00:13:56,744 --> 00:13:59,144 Speaker 2: like as a person. Yeah, because they're always made out 348 00:13:59,184 --> 00:14:01,584 Speaker 2: to be the villains, like the single like sad woman. 349 00:14:01,944 --> 00:14:03,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really agree with that. There's moments where she 350 00:14:03,784 --> 00:14:06,224 Speaker 1: could have lent into that. Yeah, like the shrill best friend. 351 00:14:06,264 --> 00:14:08,024 Speaker 1: It's like how the brother could have gone into the 352 00:14:08,104 --> 00:14:10,624 Speaker 1: villain mode. She could have been too, the shrill gree 353 00:14:10,744 --> 00:14:12,944 Speaker 1: sister or they were really setting her up at first 354 00:14:12,984 --> 00:14:14,104 Speaker 1: not to be is like to be like the one 355 00:14:14,144 --> 00:14:16,384 Speaker 1: who lets the business down. But I actually think that 356 00:14:16,584 --> 00:14:19,864 Speaker 1: the relationship between the two sisters is one of the 357 00:14:19,904 --> 00:14:22,864 Speaker 1: most interesting and intricate parts of this story. I mean, 358 00:14:22,864 --> 00:14:24,984 Speaker 1: you and I both have sisters, and there's so many 359 00:14:24,984 --> 00:14:27,384 Speaker 1: elements to this. It's like the way they talk to 360 00:14:27,424 --> 00:14:29,464 Speaker 1: each other, like the snappy things they say, and the 361 00:14:29,464 --> 00:14:31,664 Speaker 1: way they say could exactly and the way they make 362 00:14:31,744 --> 00:14:33,664 Speaker 1: up two seconds later, the way they just like share 363 00:14:33,704 --> 00:14:35,944 Speaker 1: thoughts across, like just looking at each other like it's 364 00:14:36,224 --> 00:14:38,624 Speaker 1: very it's so sister coded. And I think that's where 365 00:14:38,624 --> 00:14:40,904 Speaker 1: you can tell the shows created by two sisters, because 366 00:14:40,904 --> 00:14:42,224 Speaker 1: the dynamic is so spot on. 367 00:14:42,504 --> 00:14:45,464 Speaker 2: And I was really impressed with the direction of the 368 00:14:45,464 --> 00:14:48,224 Speaker 2: fight that they had both the sisters, that the audience 369 00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:50,744 Speaker 2: knew what actually happened, like the audience were aware of 370 00:14:50,784 --> 00:14:53,624 Speaker 2: the truth, because I think if the audience weren't aware 371 00:14:53,664 --> 00:14:56,984 Speaker 2: and were kind of like looking at it through Joanne's lens. 372 00:14:56,944 --> 00:14:58,424 Speaker 3: She could have come across so badly. 373 00:14:58,584 --> 00:15:02,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the sisters are fighting because it was like 374 00:15:02,904 --> 00:15:06,704 Speaker 2: an evolvement with an ex girlfriend. Joanne sent Morgan to 375 00:15:06,784 --> 00:15:09,584 Speaker 2: do recon Morgan came to Joanne and told her what 376 00:15:09,624 --> 00:15:12,104 Speaker 2: she saw and 's like, I don't believe you, like 377 00:15:12,144 --> 00:15:15,224 Speaker 2: you're lying to me. And then Morgan says things along 378 00:15:15,224 --> 00:15:17,984 Speaker 2: the lines of you've become so boring since you've got 379 00:15:18,024 --> 00:15:20,304 Speaker 2: into a relationship, like I'm the one who has to 380 00:15:20,344 --> 00:15:23,264 Speaker 2: like hold up the podcast. Now you're keeping things from 381 00:15:23,304 --> 00:15:26,264 Speaker 2: an audience. And it kind of took me by surprise 382 00:15:26,344 --> 00:15:28,024 Speaker 2: because these women are meant to be like in their 383 00:15:28,064 --> 00:15:32,144 Speaker 2: thirties forties, and it's that line that every woman says 384 00:15:32,144 --> 00:15:34,904 Speaker 2: at some point in her life, but it's usually around 385 00:15:35,024 --> 00:15:38,024 Speaker 2: like the early twenties, when your friends are getting into 386 00:15:38,144 --> 00:15:42,064 Speaker 2: relationships for the first time. It's like that snappy area 387 00:15:42,224 --> 00:15:46,264 Speaker 2: of friendship where you realize that your person has found 388 00:15:46,304 --> 00:15:49,184 Speaker 2: another person and you're not in on that they're not 389 00:15:49,224 --> 00:15:51,904 Speaker 2: telling you everything about their life. They're building another life 390 00:15:51,904 --> 00:15:54,144 Speaker 2: with someone else that you're not in on and then 391 00:15:54,184 --> 00:15:56,824 Speaker 2: you just snap and you say stuff like that. And 392 00:15:56,864 --> 00:15:59,064 Speaker 2: I think they played it safe by making them sisters, 393 00:15:59,064 --> 00:16:01,784 Speaker 2: because sisters will always forgive each other. But I feel 394 00:16:01,864 --> 00:16:04,144 Speaker 2: like it would have been so much more complicated if 395 00:16:04,184 --> 00:16:05,024 Speaker 2: they were best friends. 396 00:16:05,384 --> 00:16:06,544 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. 397 00:16:06,704 --> 00:16:09,264 Speaker 1: I love that you've pointed that out because I think 398 00:16:09,264 --> 00:16:11,744 Speaker 1: also it hits you maybe even worse in your thirties 399 00:16:11,744 --> 00:16:13,784 Speaker 1: and early forties, which there's been a lot of back 400 00:16:13,784 --> 00:16:16,784 Speaker 1: and forth over their ages before the show aired. Kristin 401 00:16:16,864 --> 00:16:20,984 Speaker 1: Bell and Adam Brody said that they never confirmed their 402 00:16:21,024 --> 00:16:24,224 Speaker 1: ages in the show, but they're both forty four in 403 00:16:24,224 --> 00:16:25,984 Speaker 1: real life, so like it's not out of the realm 404 00:16:25,984 --> 00:16:29,464 Speaker 1: of possibility that these characters are in their forties. And 405 00:16:29,544 --> 00:16:32,104 Speaker 1: Kristin Bell when asked about her character, she's like, oh, 406 00:16:32,224 --> 00:16:35,744 Speaker 1: she's thirty ish at twelve, so kind of saying that 407 00:16:35,784 --> 00:16:38,024 Speaker 1: potentially like they are in their forties, even though they 408 00:16:38,024 --> 00:16:41,024 Speaker 1: never actually say it. And so both of them were 409 00:16:41,064 --> 00:16:44,504 Speaker 1: saying that sometimes the stakes do seem higher because it's 410 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:47,304 Speaker 1: that life stage where so many people have coupled off, 411 00:16:47,344 --> 00:16:50,264 Speaker 1: and so if you're someone in your late thirties or 412 00:16:50,304 --> 00:16:53,504 Speaker 1: early forties, your pool of other like single people who 413 00:16:53,904 --> 00:16:56,184 Speaker 1: you make your family with, whether that's your sister or 414 00:16:56,224 --> 00:16:59,584 Speaker 1: your best friend or anyone in that circle, it gets 415 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:03,304 Speaker 1: really small. And that idea that that person will pair 416 00:17:03,424 --> 00:17:05,464 Speaker 1: off and leave you, to an extent. 417 00:17:05,224 --> 00:17:06,824 Speaker 3: Is like quite a real fear. 418 00:17:06,544 --> 00:17:08,064 Speaker 2: Because it's like, you're not even going to break up 419 00:17:08,064 --> 00:17:09,824 Speaker 2: with me, like you're just going to live. And it 420 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:12,304 Speaker 2: also what they did really well is show the hidden 421 00:17:12,344 --> 00:17:14,624 Speaker 2: cost of being the single woman, like the fact that 422 00:17:14,704 --> 00:17:18,024 Speaker 2: Joanne goes to camp with Noah and Morgan's left to 423 00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:19,824 Speaker 2: kind of deal with the business and go to the 424 00:17:19,904 --> 00:17:23,024 Speaker 2: meetings and stuff, which I thought was done so brilliantly, 425 00:17:23,104 --> 00:17:25,984 Speaker 2: because there are these like little things that when your 426 00:17:26,024 --> 00:17:30,384 Speaker 2: friend gets into a relationship, it's just accepted by society 427 00:17:30,544 --> 00:17:33,224 Speaker 2: that that's a really important thing for her to work 428 00:17:33,264 --> 00:17:35,344 Speaker 2: on and develop, and you just have to make good 429 00:17:35,424 --> 00:17:37,304 Speaker 2: with the scraps left behind. 430 00:17:37,704 --> 00:17:39,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Oh my god, I feel that 431 00:17:39,464 --> 00:17:41,904 Speaker 1: in my bones, because if you're a single person in 432 00:17:41,944 --> 00:17:44,624 Speaker 1: a friendship group, there are certain rules that it's an 433 00:17:44,704 --> 00:17:46,904 Speaker 1: unspoken thing you have to follow, and I follow them 434 00:17:46,944 --> 00:17:49,104 Speaker 1: to and I hate that about myself. But it's like 435 00:17:49,224 --> 00:17:50,984 Speaker 1: if my friends are planning a trip or at night 436 00:17:51,024 --> 00:17:53,024 Speaker 1: we're going out to dinner. I'll say like, oh, well, 437 00:17:53,024 --> 00:17:54,784 Speaker 1: it's just me, so like anywhere you guys want to 438 00:17:54,824 --> 00:17:58,224 Speaker 1: go anytime, it'll work out, Like I'll just make myself available, 439 00:17:58,384 --> 00:17:59,864 Speaker 1: or oh you must be really you might have this 440 00:17:59,904 --> 00:18:01,944 Speaker 1: busy thing on, like I can do this part thing 441 00:18:02,024 --> 00:18:04,784 Speaker 1: for you, or if you're going on a trip, you're like, oh, 442 00:18:04,864 --> 00:18:06,104 Speaker 1: you guys have the room, Like. 443 00:18:08,344 --> 00:18:11,424 Speaker 2: If they're all paying the same amount, my back, I 444 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:12,464 Speaker 2: can tell you that right now. 445 00:18:12,744 --> 00:18:14,424 Speaker 1: It's a thing of like you want to like let 446 00:18:14,464 --> 00:18:16,864 Speaker 1: people know that, like, oh, I know that this is 447 00:18:16,864 --> 00:18:18,904 Speaker 1: a really important thing and I'm not judging you, so 448 00:18:19,344 --> 00:18:21,544 Speaker 1: I'll like kind of like pull myself back a little bit. 449 00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:23,544 Speaker 1: And I think Morgan does that in the show. You're 450 00:18:23,544 --> 00:18:25,464 Speaker 1: so right because she was like, at the end of 451 00:18:25,504 --> 00:18:28,864 Speaker 1: the day, we all agree relationship trumps anything else, even 452 00:18:28,864 --> 00:18:29,584 Speaker 1: though it shouldn't. 453 00:18:29,744 --> 00:18:32,064 Speaker 2: And it's like the importance of friendship, right like even 454 00:18:32,064 --> 00:18:35,704 Speaker 2: when it comes to just dating, like Joanne is, it's 455 00:18:35,784 --> 00:18:38,424 Speaker 2: if your friend is in a relationship and she's made 456 00:18:38,424 --> 00:18:41,464 Speaker 2: plans with her partner, that's okay, But if you've made 457 00:18:41,504 --> 00:18:43,424 Speaker 2: plans to go on a first date, that's not okay, 458 00:18:43,504 --> 00:18:45,784 Speaker 2: Like you should cancel because like we had these plans, 459 00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:49,424 Speaker 2: and yes, it's like the complete indifference. Like people in 460 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:53,544 Speaker 2: relationships are allowed to have that secondary life, but you're 461 00:18:53,624 --> 00:18:54,344 Speaker 2: their life. 462 00:18:54,624 --> 00:18:57,144 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, your life, yeah exactly. 463 00:18:57,384 --> 00:18:58,864 Speaker 1: And I get the other side of it too, because 464 00:18:58,944 --> 00:19:00,864 Speaker 1: that's what comes into play here is Joanne is kind 465 00:19:00,864 --> 00:19:03,424 Speaker 1: of saying, like, you and I have had this relationship, 466 00:19:03,424 --> 00:19:05,384 Speaker 1: well our whole lives because we're sisters. But now this 467 00:19:05,464 --> 00:19:07,984 Speaker 1: business relationship, we've built this huge thing up, but now 468 00:19:07,984 --> 00:19:09,624 Speaker 1: I have this other thing and it's in a really 469 00:19:09,664 --> 00:19:12,664 Speaker 1: fragile state. It's our first weekend together. Like, and there's 470 00:19:12,704 --> 00:19:15,904 Speaker 1: also that understanding that we've been through so much together, 471 00:19:16,264 --> 00:19:19,584 Speaker 1: can't you help me through this new bit of my relationship? 472 00:19:19,624 --> 00:19:21,904 Speaker 1: And I understand that part of it too, because you 473 00:19:21,984 --> 00:19:24,784 Speaker 1: should also be able to be like, at this point 474 00:19:24,824 --> 00:19:26,824 Speaker 1: in time, I'll pick up the slack fore you. And 475 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:29,024 Speaker 1: they talk about Morgan like being divorced and stuff, So 476 00:19:29,024 --> 00:19:31,664 Speaker 1: you kind of think, like, knowing how sisters work, that 477 00:19:31,744 --> 00:19:34,344 Speaker 1: like during all that Joanne would have picked up the 478 00:19:34,464 --> 00:19:36,744 Speaker 1: extra things, or during her marriage would have picked up 479 00:19:36,744 --> 00:19:38,704 Speaker 1: extra things, and so it's like this give and take, 480 00:19:38,784 --> 00:19:41,704 Speaker 1: but it is really hard to manage those dynamics behind 481 00:19:41,744 --> 00:19:42,304 Speaker 1: the scenes. 482 00:19:42,104 --> 00:19:45,144 Speaker 2: And it's the fact that you're scared to also speak up. 483 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,544 Speaker 2: Like I think the whole reason that that blew up 484 00:19:47,664 --> 00:19:51,664 Speaker 2: was because Joanne thought Morgan was jealous of her relationship, 485 00:19:51,664 --> 00:19:54,504 Speaker 2: which is why she assumed she lied. And that's why 486 00:19:54,504 --> 00:19:56,864 Speaker 2: I feel like so many single women when they never 487 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:59,104 Speaker 2: want to speak up because they automatically assumed that their 488 00:19:59,104 --> 00:20:00,464 Speaker 2: friend would just be like, Oh, you're just you're saying 489 00:20:00,464 --> 00:20:01,264 Speaker 2: that because you're jealous. 490 00:20:01,424 --> 00:20:03,464 Speaker 1: It kind of seems like the ultimate trunk hard to 491 00:20:03,464 --> 00:20:05,504 Speaker 1: get thrown back on your face if you say anything 492 00:20:05,504 --> 00:20:08,264 Speaker 1: about your friend's relationship, like hey, you're being really selfish 493 00:20:08,344 --> 00:20:10,144 Speaker 1: or he's treating you like shit, and then it's like 494 00:20:10,344 --> 00:20:12,624 Speaker 1: what Joyne says, She's like, you're just angry because you're 495 00:20:12,664 --> 00:20:14,904 Speaker 1: back on the sad dating apps. It's like that gets 496 00:20:14,944 --> 00:20:16,584 Speaker 1: thrown back in your face. So it does kind of 497 00:20:16,624 --> 00:20:19,944 Speaker 1: cut down what you can say, Oh my god, the relations. 498 00:20:19,864 --> 00:20:22,064 Speaker 2: You're like, I am angry, but for the whole time 499 00:20:22,464 --> 00:20:23,424 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. 500 00:20:23,464 --> 00:20:25,184 Speaker 1: There's layers to this, but yeah, that's why I thought 501 00:20:25,184 --> 00:20:26,984 Speaker 1: the Sister dynam was so good, and that's why it's 502 00:20:27,024 --> 00:20:29,224 Speaker 1: like this huge. One of the best moments for me 503 00:20:29,304 --> 00:20:34,584 Speaker 1: is when they walk into the bar mits for so hot. 504 00:20:34,664 --> 00:20:37,224 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what that is? The triumph power 505 00:20:37,704 --> 00:20:39,024 Speaker 3: it shows. 506 00:20:41,064 --> 00:20:42,944 Speaker 2: We have to talk about, in my opinion, the best 507 00:20:43,024 --> 00:20:44,944 Speaker 2: episode in the entire. 508 00:20:44,784 --> 00:20:46,664 Speaker 1: Can I say when I watch this because I watched 509 00:20:46,704 --> 00:20:49,104 Speaker 1: the screeners a lot earlier than you, and as I 510 00:20:49,144 --> 00:20:51,704 Speaker 1: was watching it, I thought, God, Emily is gonna love 511 00:20:51,744 --> 00:20:52,024 Speaker 1: this bit. 512 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:56,104 Speaker 2: This is your episode, the fig piece of cinema I've 513 00:20:56,184 --> 00:20:56,784 Speaker 2: ever seen. 514 00:20:56,944 --> 00:20:58,944 Speaker 1: Give them an oscar, even though it's a TV show, 515 00:20:58,984 --> 00:20:59,664 Speaker 1: Give them an oscar. 516 00:20:59,784 --> 00:21:04,024 Speaker 2: They're scene I've never seen in any other dating show 517 00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:08,024 Speaker 2: or movie, And I guess that's because it's mainly like 518 00:21:08,104 --> 00:21:11,624 Speaker 2: a modern phenomenon, right, Yeah, So it's about the ick. 519 00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:12,824 Speaker 3: Oh, the ick? 520 00:21:13,024 --> 00:21:15,224 Speaker 2: The ick? How would you explain the I? The ick 521 00:21:15,384 --> 00:21:20,144 Speaker 2: is when you're dating someone romantically and they do something 522 00:21:20,224 --> 00:21:24,464 Speaker 2: that's completely normal, that's not like bizarre or dangerous or 523 00:21:24,464 --> 00:21:27,624 Speaker 2: a red flag. Something that's so normal, but you don't 524 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:28,144 Speaker 2: like it. 525 00:21:28,144 --> 00:21:31,824 Speaker 1: It's just a little of kilter, like they say something 526 00:21:31,864 --> 00:21:34,504 Speaker 1: a bit awkward in front of people, or they'll start 527 00:21:34,544 --> 00:21:38,984 Speaker 1: eating in a funny way, or so. In my case, 528 00:21:39,064 --> 00:21:40,984 Speaker 1: I said, don't sit on my bed in your outdoor 529 00:21:41,024 --> 00:21:41,584 Speaker 1: clothes and. 530 00:21:41,584 --> 00:21:45,744 Speaker 2: Be gross in my bedroom. That's how my last situationship ended. 531 00:21:45,784 --> 00:21:47,544 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously other things. I got the ick so 532 00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:50,224 Speaker 2: bad from that, or can just sometimes the way they 533 00:21:50,304 --> 00:21:53,544 Speaker 2: just like, they'll pronounce words wrong, or it's something so little. 534 00:21:53,864 --> 00:21:55,944 Speaker 2: Mine was the way they eat. I was in an 535 00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:58,824 Speaker 2: arcade for a date, yeah, and we were playing ping 536 00:21:58,904 --> 00:22:00,944 Speaker 2: pong and then the ping pong bowl went away and 537 00:22:00,984 --> 00:22:04,424 Speaker 2: he couldn't he couldn't get it. He was running, but 538 00:22:04,464 --> 00:22:06,184 Speaker 2: it wasn't like a run together. It was like you 539 00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:09,264 Speaker 2: know that run where you're like bent death and chasing it. 540 00:22:09,624 --> 00:22:12,024 Speaker 3: That's so the and also once you get it, it 541 00:22:12,144 --> 00:22:14,144 Speaker 3: hits you. So yeah, it's all you can think about. 542 00:22:14,184 --> 00:22:16,904 Speaker 2: And if you like them. The whole theory about behind 543 00:22:16,904 --> 00:22:18,544 Speaker 2: the Eck is that if you like them, even if 544 00:22:18,544 --> 00:22:21,024 Speaker 2: they do these icky things, you will still find them attractive. 545 00:22:21,344 --> 00:22:22,824 Speaker 2: But this wasn't the case in this. 546 00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:26,024 Speaker 3: I think for the first time in document in cinema history, 547 00:22:26,064 --> 00:22:27,824 Speaker 3: we saw a true case of the ick and the 548 00:22:27,824 --> 00:22:30,064 Speaker 3: wild that was overcome. That's revolutionary. 549 00:22:30,344 --> 00:22:34,584 Speaker 2: So no one comes in in this suit jacket because he's. 550 00:22:34,384 --> 00:22:36,544 Speaker 1: Thrown off because he was expecting just to hang out 551 00:22:36,584 --> 00:22:38,584 Speaker 1: with his sisters. And you can see that he's really 552 00:22:38,624 --> 00:22:40,744 Speaker 1: built himself up with Morgan. He's brought her all these 553 00:22:40,744 --> 00:22:43,744 Speaker 1: funny gifts. He's looking really chill, and he's like, I'm 554 00:22:43,784 --> 00:22:45,704 Speaker 1: just one of you, like I'm one of the sisters. 555 00:22:45,944 --> 00:22:47,504 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the parents are coming 556 00:22:47,584 --> 00:22:49,744 Speaker 1: and the dad's new boyfriend, and the whole game change. 557 00:22:49,744 --> 00:22:50,664 Speaker 3: The whole game changes. 558 00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:53,984 Speaker 2: He leaves, he goes against flowers. He comes back. They're 559 00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:56,744 Speaker 2: talking about like Italy. He yells pray go. 560 00:22:58,744 --> 00:23:00,624 Speaker 3: She gets it from the second she opens the door. 561 00:23:00,744 --> 00:23:01,344 Speaker 2: She looks at him. 562 00:23:01,384 --> 00:23:03,584 Speaker 1: Everything's a bit off because he looks really flustered, and 563 00:23:03,624 --> 00:23:06,104 Speaker 1: before that he looks very cool, calm and collected. The 564 00:23:06,184 --> 00:23:08,784 Speaker 1: flowers are way too big for the event he's at 565 00:23:08,784 --> 00:23:09,984 Speaker 1: and he can't hold them properly. 566 00:23:10,504 --> 00:23:13,944 Speaker 3: And it's the jacket what does he call this sports coat? 567 00:23:14,104 --> 00:23:18,504 Speaker 2: Sports coat over his shorts, And when her eyes trailed 568 00:23:18,544 --> 00:23:21,064 Speaker 2: down from the jacket to the shorts, I got the 569 00:23:21,144 --> 00:23:24,944 Speaker 2: ick for Adam Brodie myself. Yeah, it's like her portrayal 570 00:23:24,984 --> 00:23:26,504 Speaker 2: of like showing what the eck looks like on a 571 00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:29,264 Speaker 2: woman's face and real life was brilliant. And it's when 572 00:23:29,264 --> 00:23:31,984 Speaker 2: he yelled out pray go in front of everyone, which 573 00:23:31,984 --> 00:23:35,264 Speaker 2: is like kind of normal, and she turns to him 574 00:23:35,544 --> 00:23:37,784 Speaker 2: and says something in my worst night. Miss She goes, 575 00:23:38,064 --> 00:23:38,584 Speaker 2: why did. 576 00:23:38,464 --> 00:23:41,504 Speaker 3: You say that so loud? He's like did. 577 00:23:41,344 --> 00:23:43,904 Speaker 2: I, And like everyone else in the room is so fine. 578 00:23:43,984 --> 00:23:46,064 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like it's like, no, the ick only hits you, 579 00:23:46,224 --> 00:23:46,864 Speaker 3: only hits you. 580 00:23:47,584 --> 00:23:50,864 Speaker 2: And I just think it's like if I said something 581 00:23:51,064 --> 00:23:53,104 Speaker 2: and like my partner turned to me and said, why 582 00:23:53,104 --> 00:23:54,464 Speaker 2: did you say that so loudly? 583 00:23:54,544 --> 00:23:57,744 Speaker 3: I would just belt into the floor die. So she 584 00:23:57,784 --> 00:23:59,104 Speaker 3: needs a bit of like time away. 585 00:23:59,144 --> 00:24:02,184 Speaker 2: She goes outside, like he leaves him with her family, 586 00:24:02,544 --> 00:24:05,264 Speaker 2: goes outside and Morgan, because she's a best friend and 587 00:24:05,304 --> 00:24:08,104 Speaker 2: every woman knows the ick face says, I know exactly 588 00:24:08,184 --> 00:24:11,264 Speaker 2: what has happened, and it was like it's easy right, 589 00:24:11,384 --> 00:24:14,264 Speaker 2: like the script. Afterwards, she just goes, Oh, that sucks. 590 00:24:14,304 --> 00:24:15,584 Speaker 2: I can't believe I have to break up with him 591 00:24:15,864 --> 00:24:17,584 Speaker 2: because I'm like, that's what you do when you get 592 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,824 Speaker 2: the eke, you break up And he just turns it 593 00:24:19,824 --> 00:24:20,984 Speaker 2: completely around. 594 00:24:20,944 --> 00:24:23,224 Speaker 1: Which again that is a testament to the strength of 595 00:24:23,264 --> 00:24:26,144 Speaker 1: her relationship moreso than converting or anything else that happens. 596 00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:27,984 Speaker 1: And it's because at the end of the day she 597 00:24:28,104 --> 00:24:30,184 Speaker 1: can really move past it. But you can see also 598 00:24:30,224 --> 00:24:32,624 Speaker 1: he's a bit trying to turn it around as well, 599 00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:35,784 Speaker 1: and seeing her family kind of accept him as well. 600 00:24:35,824 --> 00:24:37,424 Speaker 1: There's a lot of layers to getting over the ink. 601 00:24:37,704 --> 00:24:40,264 Speaker 2: We also need to talk about the second I guess 602 00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,544 Speaker 2: most fun episode. It was the camp episode. 603 00:24:42,584 --> 00:24:43,064 Speaker 3: Oh my God. 604 00:24:43,144 --> 00:24:47,904 Speaker 2: Yes. So Noah is at this Jewish camp that he leads, 605 00:24:48,064 --> 00:24:51,064 Speaker 2: and he's bought Joanne on as like his date and 606 00:24:51,104 --> 00:24:52,984 Speaker 2: like they're technically meant to be girlfriend and a boyfriend 607 00:24:52,984 --> 00:24:55,544 Speaker 2: at this point, although it's never been communicated between either 608 00:24:55,584 --> 00:24:59,064 Speaker 2: of them. So they're at the camp together. She's kind 609 00:24:59,064 --> 00:25:01,344 Speaker 2: of pushing herself. I would say she's pushing herself to 610 00:25:01,464 --> 00:25:04,744 Speaker 2: kind of like understand his culture, understand his community. She 611 00:25:04,784 --> 00:25:07,304 Speaker 2: wants to learn more about him, she wants to watch 612 00:25:07,384 --> 00:25:10,344 Speaker 2: him give these sermon, she wants to learn about his career, 613 00:25:11,184 --> 00:25:14,504 Speaker 2: and he tries to hide her. It feels like he's 614 00:25:14,544 --> 00:25:19,184 Speaker 2: a bit embarrassed about her, and that is clear when 615 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:20,864 Speaker 2: she ends up talking to a group. 616 00:25:20,664 --> 00:25:23,664 Speaker 3: Of young girls, a group of young. 617 00:25:23,504 --> 00:25:26,024 Speaker 2: Girls who I would say, ah like in their like 618 00:25:26,104 --> 00:25:27,464 Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen. 619 00:25:27,224 --> 00:25:30,624 Speaker 1: The scariest of ages, the scariest nothing's worse than a 620 00:25:30,624 --> 00:25:33,064 Speaker 1: teenage girl, right, there's so much scarier today, they have 621 00:25:33,184 --> 00:25:35,504 Speaker 1: way more information in power, and they all look like 622 00:25:35,544 --> 00:25:37,384 Speaker 1: they're in their forties because of how they do their 623 00:25:37,384 --> 00:25:40,264 Speaker 1: hair and makeup, and so they're just a lot scarier 624 00:25:40,304 --> 00:25:41,624 Speaker 1: than they were back in the day. And they can 625 00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:43,824 Speaker 1: get you in multiple places because they have online access. 626 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:47,224 Speaker 2: A teenage girl who sees me and a man who 627 00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:50,464 Speaker 2: asks me, is he your boyfriend? Is my worst night 628 00:25:51,744 --> 00:25:53,904 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, you're not meant to ask 629 00:25:53,944 --> 00:25:55,864 Speaker 2: me that, You're meant to just accept it as who 630 00:25:55,904 --> 00:25:57,944 Speaker 2: we are, like all my other friends in Fad exactly. 631 00:25:57,984 --> 00:26:00,944 Speaker 1: And they have this very idealized thoughts of like what 632 00:26:01,024 --> 00:26:03,744 Speaker 1: a woman in a relationship should be. And it's one 633 00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:05,504 Speaker 1: of those things where like at a young age you 634 00:26:05,504 --> 00:26:07,824 Speaker 1: think things are a bit simple, like yeah, like you know, 635 00:26:07,864 --> 00:26:09,744 Speaker 1: you should do this and show your worth and make 636 00:26:09,784 --> 00:26:13,544 Speaker 1: him say that. And they're saying that to Joanne and. 637 00:26:13,464 --> 00:26:16,144 Speaker 2: Her whole you can see she's horrified saying that about 638 00:26:16,224 --> 00:26:18,664 Speaker 2: her in front of her. There's this one scene where 639 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:21,304 Speaker 2: she's like, guys, I don't want to be lusting after 640 00:26:21,344 --> 00:26:22,304 Speaker 2: a man when I'm fifty. 641 00:26:22,344 --> 00:26:28,504 Speaker 1: Like it's like, I'm right here, right here, I know 642 00:26:28,544 --> 00:26:30,784 Speaker 1: her worst nightmare coming true way worse than the egg, 643 00:26:31,064 --> 00:26:33,664 Speaker 1: and also because it's worse for her because she is like, 644 00:26:33,704 --> 00:26:37,024 Speaker 1: my whole life and personality is based off the fact 645 00:26:37,064 --> 00:26:39,264 Speaker 1: that I'm a strong, independent woman who doesn't take shit. 646 00:26:39,624 --> 00:26:41,984 Speaker 1: And now you, as she says to Noa later on, 647 00:26:42,064 --> 00:26:43,304 Speaker 1: she's like, you may be like dumb in front of 648 00:26:43,344 --> 00:26:45,904 Speaker 1: the teenagers, the people whose opinions I care about the most. 649 00:26:46,344 --> 00:26:48,144 Speaker 3: And I was like, fuck, that's so true. 650 00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:50,624 Speaker 2: So true. And the teenagers actually made her realize, like 651 00:26:50,664 --> 00:26:52,704 Speaker 2: they broke her out of that love spell where she 652 00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:54,424 Speaker 2: was just gonna hide away in the cabin for the 653 00:26:54,544 --> 00:26:56,704 Speaker 2: entire weekend. And she's like, no, I need to go 654 00:26:56,784 --> 00:26:58,744 Speaker 2: for a work meeting. Like, if you're not gonna want 655 00:26:58,744 --> 00:27:00,144 Speaker 2: me here, I'm gonna get out of here. And if 656 00:27:00,184 --> 00:27:02,344 Speaker 2: she gets out of here, and then the teenagers tell off. 657 00:27:02,224 --> 00:27:05,264 Speaker 1: Noah exactly like, well, hot, hot Rabbi, hot rabbi. And 658 00:27:05,264 --> 00:27:06,864 Speaker 1: that's the whole reason he wants to take her there. 659 00:27:06,864 --> 00:27:08,504 Speaker 1: Obviously he has to go for work. But then he 660 00:27:08,584 --> 00:27:10,264 Speaker 1: was like, he says, like, I know they call me 661 00:27:10,584 --> 00:27:10,904 Speaker 1: right by. 662 00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:13,024 Speaker 2: They're like, and you're being a dick. 663 00:27:13,264 --> 00:27:15,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. 664 00:27:15,784 --> 00:27:17,944 Speaker 2: I just also we all need teenages like that in 665 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:18,424 Speaker 2: our lives. 666 00:27:18,544 --> 00:27:20,304 Speaker 1: I know, well, they did speak the truth, and I 667 00:27:20,344 --> 00:27:21,944 Speaker 1: think that's the kind of interesting thing is that they 668 00:27:21,984 --> 00:27:23,824 Speaker 1: almost remind her she's in a rom com and what 669 00:27:23,824 --> 00:27:25,904 Speaker 1: she's supposed to kind of how she's supposed to act, 670 00:27:26,184 --> 00:27:29,704 Speaker 1: and then Adam Brodie's character acts very appropriately, which I 671 00:27:29,704 --> 00:27:31,744 Speaker 1: feel kind of interesting. I feel like the reason people 672 00:27:31,744 --> 00:27:34,544 Speaker 1: have just fallen so in love with the character of 673 00:27:34,544 --> 00:27:36,744 Speaker 1: Nowhere is like, yes, everyone loves Adam Brodie, but that 674 00:27:36,784 --> 00:27:39,584 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been enough to get through. I think what's 675 00:27:39,624 --> 00:27:44,344 Speaker 1: super interesting is that he's almost this like idealized version 676 00:27:44,464 --> 00:27:47,304 Speaker 1: of what we all want in a partner like he is. 677 00:27:47,664 --> 00:27:49,064 Speaker 3: It's almost like wish fulfillment. 678 00:27:49,344 --> 00:27:51,664 Speaker 1: It's like it's like our version of a Disney Prince 679 00:27:52,144 --> 00:27:54,384 Speaker 1: for women who have been through the hard slog of 680 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:57,144 Speaker 1: dating and relationships and who are in their byre the 681 00:27:57,184 --> 00:27:59,864 Speaker 1: thirties or forties. Because there's so many moments that the 682 00:27:59,904 --> 00:28:03,704 Speaker 1: fields are just pulled straight from people's lives, and it's 683 00:28:03,744 --> 00:28:05,984 Speaker 1: like that one scene that's going viral at the moment 684 00:28:06,024 --> 00:28:08,584 Speaker 1: where she's getting really freaked out, thinking like she's too much, 685 00:28:08,664 --> 00:28:09,624 Speaker 1: which is something we all. 686 00:28:09,544 --> 00:28:12,384 Speaker 3: Get told a lot, especially if you're still single at 687 00:28:12,384 --> 00:28:12,704 Speaker 3: that age. 688 00:28:12,704 --> 00:28:14,504 Speaker 1: It's this idea like, well, you're too much, you're too 689 00:28:14,584 --> 00:28:17,264 Speaker 1: out there, you're to this, and he just like I 690 00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:18,824 Speaker 1: can handle you, Like it's fine. 691 00:28:18,904 --> 00:28:22,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he also is that idea that women who 692 00:28:22,624 --> 00:28:24,864 Speaker 2: are dating like there's like a list of things that 693 00:28:24,944 --> 00:28:28,544 Speaker 2: we inherently have learned and know that you shouldn't go for, 694 00:28:28,944 --> 00:28:30,624 Speaker 2: Like you shouldn't go from a man who's just come 695 00:28:30,664 --> 00:28:32,704 Speaker 2: out of a fresh relationship. You shouldn't go from a 696 00:28:32,704 --> 00:28:34,424 Speaker 2: man who gives you the ig. You shouldn't go from 697 00:28:34,424 --> 00:28:36,184 Speaker 2: a man who tried to hide you in a cabin. 698 00:28:36,864 --> 00:28:40,184 Speaker 2: It could work, and like they make it into this 699 00:28:40,224 --> 00:28:43,064 Speaker 2: big thing as like it's okay if you still. 700 00:28:42,944 --> 00:28:45,184 Speaker 3: Like him, because you're both learning and you're both growing. 701 00:28:45,384 --> 00:28:47,464 Speaker 1: One thing they worked really hard on was that their 702 00:28:47,544 --> 00:28:50,224 Speaker 1: kisses would be really great because it's so funny. 703 00:28:49,984 --> 00:28:51,384 Speaker 2: That our kisses were crazy good. 704 00:28:51,504 --> 00:28:52,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, they worked real hard on most. 705 00:28:54,464 --> 00:28:56,384 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because for a show that's hyped is 706 00:28:56,424 --> 00:28:58,544 Speaker 1: like the most romantic show of the year, there's not 707 00:28:58,664 --> 00:29:02,224 Speaker 1: a lot of physical affection. There's no sex scenes anything 708 00:29:02,304 --> 00:29:04,624 Speaker 1: like that. Like, it's actually very devoid of that level 709 00:29:04,664 --> 00:29:07,904 Speaker 1: of intimacy. The intimacy we see is in their conversations 710 00:29:08,024 --> 00:29:10,784 Speaker 1: or just the way they interact, almost in power, because 711 00:29:10,784 --> 00:29:13,064 Speaker 1: Adam Brody had this thing at the beginning of the 712 00:29:13,064 --> 00:29:14,784 Speaker 1: show where he said like, I'm always just gonna have 713 00:29:14,784 --> 00:29:17,504 Speaker 1: my hands on her face, and then Kristen Bell said like, 714 00:29:17,744 --> 00:29:19,944 Speaker 1: we've got to look into each other's eyes for as 715 00:29:19,984 --> 00:29:22,864 Speaker 1: long as we can before we kiss every time, even 716 00:29:22,864 --> 00:29:25,304 Speaker 1: if we feel uncomfortable, even if it feels weird, We're 717 00:29:25,344 --> 00:29:26,904 Speaker 1: just got to commit to that. So when you see 718 00:29:26,904 --> 00:29:30,904 Speaker 1: their kisses, there's so much build up to the way 719 00:29:30,904 --> 00:29:33,384 Speaker 1: they're standing, the way he's always got his hands over 720 00:29:33,424 --> 00:29:35,704 Speaker 1: her face, the way they do it, and it's so 721 00:29:35,744 --> 00:29:37,944 Speaker 1: funny because the kiss scene that's the most famous from 722 00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:39,424 Speaker 1: the show, where they kiss in the street out of 723 00:29:39,464 --> 00:29:42,104 Speaker 1: Brodie hates that scene really, he thinks, well, he likes 724 00:29:42,144 --> 00:29:44,144 Speaker 1: the kiss part of it, he doesn't like the setup 725 00:29:44,184 --> 00:29:46,544 Speaker 1: because if you remember, that's the part where he's like, 726 00:29:47,064 --> 00:29:47,664 Speaker 1: put down. 727 00:29:47,504 --> 00:29:49,224 Speaker 3: Your ice cream. That's yea. 728 00:29:51,704 --> 00:29:53,544 Speaker 1: He hated that, but he hated the line where he 729 00:29:53,544 --> 00:29:57,464 Speaker 1: says put down your bag. And afterwards Kristen Bell's like, Okay, 730 00:29:57,504 --> 00:29:59,264 Speaker 1: I didn't agree with you when we were shooting it. 731 00:29:59,424 --> 00:30:01,304 Speaker 1: I thought you were being a bit you know, ridiculous 732 00:30:01,304 --> 00:30:03,144 Speaker 1: and you won't understand what was happening. But now that 733 00:30:03,184 --> 00:30:04,464 Speaker 1: I look at the scene, it is a bit weird 734 00:30:04,464 --> 00:30:06,224 Speaker 1: because I think initially she was meant to have like 735 00:30:06,224 --> 00:30:07,704 Speaker 1: a really big, heavy shoulder bag. 736 00:30:08,024 --> 00:30:10,944 Speaker 2: So he put down your bag. It was going to 737 00:30:10,984 --> 00:30:13,104 Speaker 2: be a bit of a sexy someone's going to take it. Yeah, 738 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:14,904 Speaker 2: so she puts down this tiny little bag. It's like 739 00:30:14,944 --> 00:30:17,024 Speaker 2: that bag was not the way. And Adam Brady has 740 00:30:17,064 --> 00:30:19,304 Speaker 2: then a few different interviews, He's like hated that. They're 741 00:30:19,304 --> 00:30:21,464 Speaker 2: also like in the middle of a sidewalk. I'm like, 742 00:30:21,544 --> 00:30:23,704 Speaker 2: of course, no one's walking behind you. I would have 743 00:30:23,704 --> 00:30:25,624 Speaker 2: been that like that one grumpy person like can you 744 00:30:25,664 --> 00:30:27,304 Speaker 2: like at least move to the side. You're going to 745 00:30:27,344 --> 00:30:29,304 Speaker 2: do this, and now your bags in the way and 746 00:30:29,304 --> 00:30:30,024 Speaker 2: I'm tripping over that. 747 00:30:30,344 --> 00:30:32,104 Speaker 1: But apart from that, it was a great kids And 748 00:30:32,104 --> 00:30:34,584 Speaker 1: they shot that kiss apparently so many times, like into 749 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:37,344 Speaker 1: the early hours of the morning to make it really 750 00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:40,024 Speaker 1: to make it perfect. And it's this whole thing of 751 00:30:40,064 --> 00:30:43,304 Speaker 1: these two people just having that like undeniable spark. So 752 00:30:43,464 --> 00:30:45,904 Speaker 1: coming into the last episode, which is like I guess 753 00:30:45,984 --> 00:30:48,384 Speaker 1: kind of almost comes down to yes, the bummit's for 754 00:30:48,504 --> 00:30:52,344 Speaker 1: and the kind of epic entry of Morgan and Joeanne. 755 00:30:51,904 --> 00:30:54,264 Speaker 2: But he refused to me the last episode, Oh why 756 00:30:54,464 --> 00:30:57,944 Speaker 2: how sorry? Too hard into it? 757 00:30:58,024 --> 00:30:59,744 Speaker 1: Well, it was meant to be the final kind of 758 00:30:59,784 --> 00:31:03,904 Speaker 1: showdown between Joanne and Noah's family, but also the cementing 759 00:31:04,344 --> 00:31:07,104 Speaker 1: of Noah and Joan's relationship with her, like saying that 760 00:31:07,144 --> 00:31:09,304 Speaker 1: she would convert for him. One thing I think it's 761 00:31:09,304 --> 00:31:12,224 Speaker 1: important to say about Noah's family is that everyone on 762 00:31:12,224 --> 00:31:14,624 Speaker 1: the show has said they're a fictionalized version. But I 763 00:31:14,624 --> 00:31:16,904 Speaker 1: think it's important to note that a lot of Jewish 764 00:31:16,984 --> 00:31:19,704 Speaker 1: women have not been super happy. I mean not speaking 765 00:31:19,704 --> 00:31:21,944 Speaker 1: for everyone, but like when a show comes out like this, 766 00:31:22,024 --> 00:31:24,024 Speaker 1: I try and really like go and seek out heaps 767 00:31:24,024 --> 00:31:26,304 Speaker 1: of different people's opinions on it and what different people 768 00:31:26,304 --> 00:31:28,984 Speaker 1: from different backgrounds think, because what I take away from 769 00:31:29,024 --> 00:31:30,784 Speaker 1: a show is going to be very different from say 770 00:31:30,984 --> 00:31:32,424 Speaker 1: what a Jewish woman takes away, and show what a 771 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:34,384 Speaker 1: married woman takes away, to show even what someone living 772 00:31:34,384 --> 00:31:36,384 Speaker 1: in a different country takes away from a show. And 773 00:31:36,424 --> 00:31:39,064 Speaker 1: I have seen some women say that they didn't sometimes 774 00:31:39,184 --> 00:31:42,784 Speaker 1: love this stereotype of like the angry Jewish woman, the shrew, 775 00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:45,144 Speaker 1: the villain, And I think we see a lot more 776 00:31:45,184 --> 00:31:49,104 Speaker 1: layers to those characters, especially Esther with the fantastic Jackie 777 00:31:49,144 --> 00:31:51,904 Speaker 1: tone playing her. But I do understand that if you 778 00:31:52,424 --> 00:31:54,544 Speaker 1: have seen a stereotype in pop culture, and as we know, 779 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,904 Speaker 1: entertainment and pop culture are so good at taking these 780 00:31:56,904 --> 00:31:59,544 Speaker 1: stereotypes and blowing them up, that that would be hard to. 781 00:31:59,504 --> 00:32:01,424 Speaker 2: Watch, Yeah, especially because they were all mean. 782 00:32:01,864 --> 00:32:02,984 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, there wasn't. 783 00:32:02,744 --> 00:32:05,584 Speaker 2: One that was nice until you ended up seeing the layers. 784 00:32:05,584 --> 00:32:07,344 Speaker 2: So I do understand. I think I would have been 785 00:32:07,464 --> 00:32:08,304 Speaker 2: slightly offended. 786 00:32:08,504 --> 00:32:10,584 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I understand that. Also. 787 00:32:10,624 --> 00:32:11,944 Speaker 1: I just loved to kind of setup of like you 788 00:32:12,024 --> 00:32:15,344 Speaker 1: have this moment where in the bar Mitzva where Joanne 789 00:32:15,384 --> 00:32:17,384 Speaker 1: and Noah have this like kiss and it's all beautiful 790 00:32:17,384 --> 00:32:21,224 Speaker 1: and she's converting, and then she realizes the stakes and then. 791 00:32:21,144 --> 00:32:23,584 Speaker 2: He starts listing all these things she has to do. Yeah, 792 00:32:23,904 --> 00:32:26,504 Speaker 2: and like he was trying to like because it was 793 00:32:26,504 --> 00:32:29,024 Speaker 2: clear that she was converting for him, yeah, And he 794 00:32:29,064 --> 00:32:30,984 Speaker 2: was like, you're doing this for yourself, right, and she 795 00:32:31,064 --> 00:32:33,104 Speaker 2: was like, yeah. 796 00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:35,104 Speaker 1: Well, That's my thing, from my very minimal understanding of 797 00:32:35,144 --> 00:32:37,464 Speaker 1: the conversion is that the idea is that you go 798 00:32:37,544 --> 00:32:39,664 Speaker 1: through a lot and prove your investment in it because 799 00:32:39,664 --> 00:32:42,264 Speaker 1: the idea is that you convert, even if that person 800 00:32:42,264 --> 00:32:45,224 Speaker 1: were to like pass away, then you would still raise 801 00:32:45,264 --> 00:32:46,824 Speaker 1: your children Jewish or if you were to break up, 802 00:32:46,824 --> 00:32:48,624 Speaker 1: you would still be in the Jewish faith. And so 803 00:32:48,664 --> 00:32:50,624 Speaker 1: I think that's why there's like a lot of layers too. 804 00:32:50,784 --> 00:32:53,064 Speaker 2: And I think he also didn't want the responsibility of 805 00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:54,224 Speaker 2: it just being on him. 806 00:32:54,384 --> 00:32:56,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's why that showdown with Rebecca 807 00:32:56,184 --> 00:32:58,224 Speaker 1: where she was like, you're living my dream, like just 808 00:32:58,264 --> 00:33:00,264 Speaker 1: so you know, it's a big deal, and you almost 809 00:33:00,264 --> 00:33:02,104 Speaker 1: think like she confirms it. It's almost like she was 810 00:33:02,104 --> 00:33:03,704 Speaker 1: never super in love with Noah. She was in love 811 00:33:03,744 --> 00:33:06,344 Speaker 1: with the idea of being a rabbi's wife, Yeah, and 812 00:33:06,464 --> 00:33:09,264 Speaker 1: the huge place that that held in her culture, which 813 00:33:09,304 --> 00:33:12,224 Speaker 1: I understand that, and then seeing Joanne be terrified by that, 814 00:33:12,304 --> 00:33:13,784 Speaker 1: and as I was like, I was looking at the 815 00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:15,304 Speaker 1: time and I'm like, Okay, we've got like four minutes 816 00:33:15,304 --> 00:33:15,464 Speaker 1: to go. 817 00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:16,384 Speaker 3: What's going to happen here? 818 00:33:16,384 --> 00:33:18,424 Speaker 1: Because I knew it was going to end in a 819 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,304 Speaker 1: way with them together, but I thought, well, we're going 820 00:33:20,384 --> 00:33:22,144 Speaker 1: to have a classic like a chase scene. And I 821 00:33:22,144 --> 00:33:24,024 Speaker 1: guess they kind of had that with him being there 822 00:33:24,464 --> 00:33:26,944 Speaker 1: when she arrived and the shuttle. 823 00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:27,944 Speaker 3: And the end. 824 00:33:28,024 --> 00:33:30,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, they care someday decide to stay together, but I 825 00:33:30,664 --> 00:33:32,544 Speaker 2: think the ending is what confused me. 826 00:33:32,784 --> 00:33:35,384 Speaker 3: Was has he quit, Like, is he not going to 827 00:33:35,384 --> 00:33:36,944 Speaker 3: be a rabbi? No, he hasn't quit being a round. 828 00:33:37,024 --> 00:33:37,544 Speaker 3: He's going to be a. 829 00:33:37,584 --> 00:33:40,704 Speaker 2: Rabbi and marry her. But like, well, this is why 830 00:33:40,784 --> 00:33:42,384 Speaker 2: I know I'm jumping her head. But that's like what 831 00:33:42,384 --> 00:33:43,864 Speaker 2: the whole thing was about, right, Yeah. 832 00:33:43,904 --> 00:33:46,904 Speaker 1: I think they decide to still stay together and stay 833 00:33:46,904 --> 00:33:49,024 Speaker 1: in a relationship, but they don't decide to put like 834 00:33:49,144 --> 00:33:51,984 Speaker 1: in that moment a definitive like this is the only 835 00:33:52,024 --> 00:33:53,944 Speaker 1: way we will stay together. They were like, we want 836 00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:55,544 Speaker 1: to be together, and we will work this out and 837 00:33:55,584 --> 00:33:57,104 Speaker 1: we'll put the work in on both sides. 838 00:33:57,664 --> 00:34:00,184 Speaker 2: Nervous for them, Well, this is because he can't be 839 00:34:00,224 --> 00:34:02,344 Speaker 2: the head rabbi. He was told he can't be the 840 00:34:02,384 --> 00:34:06,464 Speaker 2: head rabbi until she converted. Yeah, and she doesn't want 841 00:34:06,464 --> 00:34:06,584 Speaker 2: to go. 842 00:34:07,024 --> 00:34:08,984 Speaker 1: Well, she just not right now, I think she was. 843 00:34:09,064 --> 00:34:10,424 Speaker 1: She was saying, I mean, there's a lot of layers 844 00:34:10,424 --> 00:34:12,624 Speaker 1: to it, but this is why, like a season two 845 00:34:12,624 --> 00:34:13,904 Speaker 1: hasn't been confirmed yet. 846 00:34:13,704 --> 00:34:15,344 Speaker 2: But this is why God better it better. 847 00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:18,304 Speaker 1: I think it really has legs through a season two 848 00:34:18,344 --> 00:34:19,984 Speaker 1: because now you can see them in the throes of 849 00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:20,584 Speaker 1: the next part. 850 00:34:20,624 --> 00:34:23,464 Speaker 2: And also like Sasha and Morgan's relationship needs to be developed. 851 00:34:23,504 --> 00:34:25,544 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, I don't want them to 852 00:34:25,544 --> 00:34:27,224 Speaker 1: have an affair, but I kind of do, like I 853 00:34:27,264 --> 00:34:28,544 Speaker 1: love me. 854 00:34:28,584 --> 00:34:29,984 Speaker 3: Like I thought there was something wrong with me. 855 00:34:30,024 --> 00:34:32,384 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be bad if they slept together. 856 00:34:32,864 --> 00:34:44,264 Speaker 3: What a show. Just loved it. The Weekend watch It is. 857 00:34:44,304 --> 00:34:47,384 Speaker 2: A weekend watch time where we give you two movies 858 00:34:47,464 --> 00:34:49,624 Speaker 2: or TV shows to take with you for this weekend 859 00:34:49,704 --> 00:34:51,904 Speaker 2: and the rules are, as always, you have to watch 860 00:34:51,944 --> 00:34:55,064 Speaker 2: them and then give us feedback on how we did. 861 00:34:55,224 --> 00:34:57,344 Speaker 1: Are you just saying the rules out loud to yourself 862 00:34:57,424 --> 00:35:00,304 Speaker 1: then to remind yourself, we have to watch them. 863 00:34:59,904 --> 00:35:03,264 Speaker 2: People have to work, so everyone go watch them. 864 00:35:03,264 --> 00:35:05,144 Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing like in order to make everyone feelize. 865 00:35:05,144 --> 00:35:06,584 Speaker 1: This is a fun podcast for their. 866 00:35:06,544 --> 00:35:09,344 Speaker 2: No no, you get homework in this podcast of anything. 867 00:35:09,744 --> 00:35:11,344 Speaker 2: So I I want to talk about my wee can 868 00:35:11,384 --> 00:35:15,104 Speaker 2: watch first because I'm very excited. It is Joan on Stan. 869 00:35:15,584 --> 00:35:19,184 Speaker 2: It stars Sophie Turner, who we absolutely love, but she's 870 00:35:19,224 --> 00:35:21,504 Speaker 2: in this new show called Joan on Stan where she 871 00:35:21,624 --> 00:35:25,304 Speaker 2: plays Joan Hannington, who's kind of mimicked after a real 872 00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:29,544 Speaker 2: person nicknamed the Godmother, So she was a real person, 873 00:35:29,704 --> 00:35:34,024 Speaker 2: famous jewelry thrief in the eighties in London. Promise me 874 00:35:34,104 --> 00:35:34,944 Speaker 2: I won't lose her. 875 00:35:37,464 --> 00:35:38,864 Speaker 1: It's a tough day. 876 00:35:38,944 --> 00:35:39,824 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what you do. 877 00:35:41,824 --> 00:35:42,504 Speaker 1: From a thief? 878 00:35:48,544 --> 00:35:58,904 Speaker 3: What do you want? John dressing? Our attending job? 879 00:35:58,944 --> 00:36:04,704 Speaker 2: Satisfaction isn't a crime? What the rest of it is. 880 00:36:06,184 --> 00:36:08,504 Speaker 2: I've watched only the first three episodes, like I've binged 881 00:36:08,544 --> 00:36:12,624 Speaker 2: them literally in one evening, But Sophie plays these accents 882 00:36:12,664 --> 00:36:15,384 Speaker 2: so well, and she kind of shows how with her 883 00:36:15,464 --> 00:36:19,504 Speaker 2: like jewelry thief personality, she like changes herself and she 884 00:36:19,544 --> 00:36:22,304 Speaker 2: shows that whole process of how she changes herself from 885 00:36:22,384 --> 00:36:24,584 Speaker 2: like her real life as like a single mother trying 886 00:36:24,624 --> 00:36:26,464 Speaker 2: to make ends and meet she has to put her 887 00:36:26,544 --> 00:36:29,824 Speaker 2: child into foster care just because she needs to make money. 888 00:36:30,024 --> 00:36:31,984 Speaker 2: She was involved in like a gang and she has 889 00:36:31,984 --> 00:36:34,264 Speaker 2: to escape that, like she's come from a really hard 890 00:36:34,304 --> 00:36:36,864 Speaker 2: spot and then on the other side the next day. 891 00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:40,064 Speaker 2: She's just kind of like cosplaying as this really glamorous 892 00:36:40,224 --> 00:36:43,784 Speaker 2: person who works in a jewelry store, who tries to 893 00:36:43,824 --> 00:36:46,144 Speaker 2: work in a hairdresser, who ends up just like stealing 894 00:36:46,184 --> 00:36:48,224 Speaker 2: jewelry because like she learns about jewelry, she's like, you 895 00:36:48,224 --> 00:36:50,544 Speaker 2: know what, I can steal it. And it is done 896 00:36:50,784 --> 00:36:53,744 Speaker 2: so so well. I've only watched the first few episodes, 897 00:36:54,104 --> 00:36:57,904 Speaker 2: but the way she kind of portrays a woman who 898 00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:01,744 Speaker 2: will do anything to get her daughter back, even commit crime, 899 00:37:01,824 --> 00:37:04,704 Speaker 2: it's done so beautifully. It made me cry. Even though 900 00:37:04,744 --> 00:37:06,824 Speaker 2: it's meant to be kind of like action e comedy. 901 00:37:06,504 --> 00:37:08,384 Speaker 1: It is an action comedy as well, but it's so 902 00:37:08,584 --> 00:37:10,784 Speaker 1: good undertone of I've just started watching it well and 903 00:37:10,824 --> 00:37:11,464 Speaker 1: I love it. 904 00:37:11,504 --> 00:37:12,424 Speaker 3: And she's so good and. 905 00:37:12,384 --> 00:37:13,224 Speaker 2: She looks beautiful. 906 00:37:13,624 --> 00:37:15,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a hot pos Oh my god, it's a 907 00:37:15,224 --> 00:37:16,264 Speaker 3: good performance as well. 908 00:37:16,304 --> 00:37:17,944 Speaker 2: Please put it on your list. I need someone to 909 00:37:17,984 --> 00:37:19,784 Speaker 2: talk to you about it. You're ten, okay. 910 00:37:19,784 --> 00:37:21,104 Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna be a really hard 911 00:37:21,144 --> 00:37:24,064 Speaker 1: recommendation for me because I'm already at an emotional ten 912 00:37:24,384 --> 00:37:27,424 Speaker 1: after talking about nobody wants this, and this show always 913 00:37:27,504 --> 00:37:29,664 Speaker 1: kicks me up to at least a fifteen. Oh, I 914 00:37:29,784 --> 00:37:31,744 Speaker 1: haven't brought this up for a long time, so just 915 00:37:31,784 --> 00:37:34,744 Speaker 1: give me this, okay. As you know, one of my 916 00:37:34,824 --> 00:37:37,464 Speaker 1: favorite shows in the entire world is The Walking Dead, 917 00:37:38,144 --> 00:37:40,584 Speaker 1: and when the Walking don't say anything, Emily. And when 918 00:37:40,584 --> 00:37:42,984 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead ended, I was obviously devastated, and I 919 00:37:42,984 --> 00:37:44,344 Speaker 1: cried a lot for Days. 920 00:37:44,544 --> 00:37:47,144 Speaker 2: To end, though where else it was going to be, Well, the. 921 00:37:47,144 --> 00:37:48,104 Speaker 3: Thing is it ended. 922 00:37:48,144 --> 00:37:50,504 Speaker 1: And then a lot of the main characters went off 923 00:37:50,544 --> 00:37:52,984 Speaker 1: and got their own spinoff shows, which I've both loved 924 00:37:52,984 --> 00:37:54,984 Speaker 1: and hated an equal measure, because I love seeing all 925 00:37:55,024 --> 00:37:58,184 Speaker 1: my favorite characters going off in these new journeys, but 926 00:37:58,224 --> 00:38:00,064 Speaker 1: I also just hate the fact that they're not together. 927 00:38:00,424 --> 00:38:04,144 Speaker 1: But one of the strongest other countries to visit, Yeah, exactly, 928 00:38:04,384 --> 00:38:06,624 Speaker 1: But one of the strongest spin offs I think out 929 00:38:06,624 --> 00:38:08,904 Speaker 1: of all of them was The Walking Dead. 930 00:38:09,024 --> 00:38:09,744 Speaker 3: Darryl Dixon. 931 00:38:10,504 --> 00:38:11,504 Speaker 2: Did hey go off by himself? 932 00:38:11,744 --> 00:38:12,104 Speaker 3: He did. 933 00:38:12,104 --> 00:38:14,784 Speaker 1: He ended up in France, which is real turning point 934 00:38:14,784 --> 00:38:15,904 Speaker 1: for someone who never left Georgia. 935 00:38:15,984 --> 00:38:17,784 Speaker 2: But I thought that's where Maggie and Megan went. 936 00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:19,944 Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's they went to New York. Oh, we 937 00:38:19,984 --> 00:38:20,984 Speaker 3: can't get into this right now. 938 00:38:21,144 --> 00:38:23,584 Speaker 1: How did he get from It's a whole story. So 939 00:38:23,624 --> 00:38:25,824 Speaker 1: he went off to find Rick. We found out he 940 00:38:25,864 --> 00:38:28,264 Speaker 1: was alive. A series of events brought him to France. 941 00:38:28,704 --> 00:38:30,384 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the player I'm supposed 942 00:38:30,424 --> 00:38:33,424 Speaker 2: to be thinking about all the people I left. Fine, 943 00:38:35,224 --> 00:38:36,304 Speaker 2: they're still thinking about me. 944 00:38:37,504 --> 00:38:38,264 Speaker 3: The man it was here? 945 00:38:39,744 --> 00:38:40,344 Speaker 1: Where is he? 946 00:38:41,864 --> 00:38:43,944 Speaker 3: Would you give up everything to look for somebody you 947 00:38:43,984 --> 00:38:49,664 Speaker 3: haven't met. 948 00:38:46,304 --> 00:38:48,104 Speaker 1: The finding him alive? 949 00:38:51,344 --> 00:38:51,544 Speaker 3: Yes? 950 00:38:53,744 --> 00:38:55,584 Speaker 1: If you're not across The Walking Dead, you could almost 951 00:38:55,624 --> 00:38:57,304 Speaker 1: watch this show, I think, without it, because it does 952 00:38:57,304 --> 00:39:00,664 Speaker 1: build its own universe. So Norman Readers plays Darryl Dixon, 953 00:39:00,824 --> 00:39:02,264 Speaker 1: one of the hottest characters in. 954 00:39:02,864 --> 00:39:04,744 Speaker 2: History because his character's hot. 955 00:39:04,904 --> 00:39:06,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's hot, because character's hot, Like, we don't want 956 00:39:06,824 --> 00:39:08,664 Speaker 1: to interact with him in real life. It's the character 957 00:39:09,224 --> 00:39:13,024 Speaker 1: was such a huge favorite for the over a decade 958 00:39:13,024 --> 00:39:14,944 Speaker 1: that The Walking Dead was on air. So he got 959 00:39:14,984 --> 00:39:16,624 Speaker 1: a spin off series and it shows him. 960 00:39:16,504 --> 00:39:19,384 Speaker 3: Going to France. Can I just a spoiler? I mean, 961 00:39:19,504 --> 00:39:21,104 Speaker 3: what is it? I mean, if we end up getting 962 00:39:21,144 --> 00:39:24,424 Speaker 3: it with Carol? No, I know they would never How 963 00:39:24,504 --> 00:39:25,824 Speaker 3: dare you got it? 964 00:39:25,904 --> 00:39:26,024 Speaker 2: No? 965 00:39:26,344 --> 00:39:28,824 Speaker 1: So he goes off to France and you could almost 966 00:39:28,864 --> 00:39:30,464 Speaker 1: like pick up the story there. I mean, I definite 967 00:39:30,464 --> 00:39:32,024 Speaker 1: think everyone should go watch The Walking Dead because it's 968 00:39:32,024 --> 00:39:34,464 Speaker 1: great TV. But it's also just like great world building 969 00:39:34,504 --> 00:39:37,064 Speaker 1: of how the apocalypse and how this disease of people 970 00:39:37,104 --> 00:39:40,264 Speaker 1: turning into walkers has affected different country and because it's 971 00:39:40,304 --> 00:39:42,624 Speaker 1: been around for a few decades. Now you have all 972 00:39:42,664 --> 00:39:45,464 Speaker 1: these different societies that have sprung up. You have like 973 00:39:45,504 --> 00:39:48,424 Speaker 1: this underworld in Paris where people still live these huge, 974 00:39:48,464 --> 00:39:51,944 Speaker 1: glamorous lives, but alongside The Walking Dead, and it's got 975 00:39:51,944 --> 00:39:53,904 Speaker 1: Clements Posey in it, who you might know from Gossip 976 00:39:53,944 --> 00:39:55,624 Speaker 1: Girl and Harry Potter and many other things as the 977 00:39:55,624 --> 00:39:59,624 Speaker 1: other lead. And it's just a really well made, great show. 978 00:39:59,944 --> 00:40:03,464 Speaker 1: But what's so intense about this new season? So the 979 00:40:03,504 --> 00:40:06,064 Speaker 1: first episode of season two has come out on stand 980 00:40:06,304 --> 00:40:10,384 Speaker 1: this week, and so Carol from The Walking Dead. It 981 00:40:10,464 --> 00:40:12,144 Speaker 1: was originally meant to be to spin off with him, 982 00:40:12,184 --> 00:40:15,544 Speaker 1: but the actress when the show ended was like, I 983 00:40:15,584 --> 00:40:18,024 Speaker 1: just can't go back into filming another show right now. 984 00:40:18,064 --> 00:40:20,224 Speaker 3: I need a break. So she wasn't in the first season, 985 00:40:20,664 --> 00:40:22,704 Speaker 3: and now she's in the second season. She's made a 986 00:40:22,744 --> 00:40:24,864 Speaker 3: way over it to So it's Darryl and Carol. 987 00:40:24,944 --> 00:40:27,944 Speaker 1: I won't spoil anything about how their characters interact, or 988 00:40:27,944 --> 00:40:29,744 Speaker 1: if they find each other or anything like that. But 989 00:40:29,904 --> 00:40:32,544 Speaker 1: when I tell you, when I sit down to watch this, 990 00:40:33,144 --> 00:40:37,144 Speaker 1: the tears that were streaming down my face, oh a 991 00:40:37,344 --> 00:40:39,264 Speaker 1: hundred ball. I mean, I've had over a decade with 992 00:40:39,304 --> 00:40:42,144 Speaker 1: these people, you know what I mean, Like the intensity 993 00:40:42,384 --> 00:40:45,104 Speaker 1: of this. Oh, I can't even so. The Walking Dead 994 00:40:45,224 --> 00:40:47,504 Speaker 1: Darryl Dixon. The Book of Carol is out now on 995 00:40:47,624 --> 00:40:51,184 Speaker 1: stan Carol. You can watch season one and like I said, 996 00:40:51,344 --> 00:40:53,104 Speaker 1: if you want to not watch The Walking Dead, like 997 00:40:53,304 --> 00:40:55,464 Speaker 1: I'm judging you, but you could just jump into this 998 00:40:55,504 --> 00:40:59,344 Speaker 1: as an amazing show, this dystopian world. The sets are amazing, 999 00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:01,544 Speaker 1: the Walkers are amazing. I just love it so much. 1000 00:41:02,224 --> 00:41:04,224 Speaker 1: New episodes dropping weekly. The first one's out. 1001 00:41:04,304 --> 00:41:04,744 Speaker 3: More to coom. 1002 00:41:05,104 --> 00:41:07,264 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 1003 00:41:07,304 --> 00:41:09,864 Speaker 2: The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production 1004 00:41:09,904 --> 00:41:11,824 Speaker 2: by Scott Stronik. We will be back here in your 1005 00:41:11,824 --> 00:41:13,784 Speaker 2: podcast be at three pm on Monday. 1006 00:41:13,984 --> 00:41:23,944 Speaker 3: Bye bye h